The Luke and Pete Show - Banana spider graveyard

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

Pete eyes a new job as a CNBC reporter as he dives into the bizarre story of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s bear carcass incident… Meanwhile Luke confesses he’s never bought anything from Greggs - ever!Plus, a listener’s email fuels Luke’s obsession with banana spiders even more!Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's The Luke and Pete Show, I'm Luke Donaldson and it's a bloody Monday and I don't know about you Luke but I'm exhausted from a weekend of rioting, of rioting, carrying bear carcasses through Central Park. Oh that's good, that was good mate. It's been a weird year hasn't it? Yeah that was fucking good. It's been a weird year. Don't move on from that, tell people listening if they haven't seen it, the story there, because I want to come in on this.

Presidential wannabe, RFK Junior. Presidential... Not Paulingwell. Presidential candidate of sorts. Of sorts, right. Looney, like just a loony. Loony and he is a rich loony and does rich loony things. His entire platform to launch himself into trying to become president is the nephew of

John F Kennedy and I hate vaccines. It's good stuff. And he basically, it became very clear that RFK Jr. was trying to get ahead of a story that was going to be released in, I believe, the New Yorker over the weekend. And when you sort of say... Was it the New York Times? Was it the New Yorker? Yeah, whatever.

I think it was originally covered by the New York Times at the time. Right, by his niece. Weirdly enough by JFK's granddaughter or something. Yeah, something. Anyway, so he's trying to get in front of a story and the story is thus, as he tells it. He's been informed that the story is coming out later this week, so he wants to sort of get set the record straight and just get out there, you know. He was out. By the way, were you prepared for his voice? I wasn't prepared for his voice. Yeah, it was a cancer or some kind of throat issue, I think. He sounded like Sean Dish, basically.

Yeah. Is that medical issues? Yeah, it's a medical issue. I can't remember. I think it might have been throat cancer back in the day. I think. But anyway. Anyway.

It makes this kind of testimony even more interesting, I think. Anyway, he is interviewed on Rosam Bar's podcast because his campaign is going just that well and he manages to out-mental Rozan Baar with a story. Good effort. Good effort. It's good work isn't it? He has, after a long day, was it kestrel-ing or something? Pheasant-ing?

Falcon-ing! Yeah, falcon-ing. Hunting with falcons. He was definitely hunting. Outside of, he was hunting with falcons outside of New York, but within state. And he says that he was driving down whatever road it is that leads to New York and he sees... The York Road. The York Road towards New York. From the old York to the New York. And he witnesses a bear cub being hit by the car

in front of him. He's in a car with, and he's off to like a really fancy restaurant. It's Peter Luger's steakhouse, right? Yeah, really fancy, fancy stuff. As fancy as it gets out there, innit? And so what you would do in this situation, you'd maybe report the bear club to authorities, you'd maybe kind of think about getting the bear to the side of the road or something like that. What he thinks is, he knows for certain, and he's egged on by the people in the car apparently, the inebriated people, that he wasn't drunk by the way. No. Just got me that very clear. He wasn't drunk. Wasn't drunk! He makes the very sober decision to pick up the bear knowing full well that in New York state you can eat a bear that has been hit by a car, put it in the back of his car and drive

it towards New York. Right? And then because he's going to a nice steak restaurant, he suddenly thinks better of this plan of eating a bear. And he dumps it in Central Park under a bicycle. He said he was running late to catch a flight. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then he suddenly, so presumably it was in the car after the steakhouse. He's running late for a flight. He doesn't want to leave it in the car. At this point in the story, when he's telling it, I'm, he doesn't want to leave it in the car. At this point in the story when he's telling it I'm thinking what kind of life is this? What's happening here?

I mean driving to JFK is a nightmare anyway. So basically he's staged a cyclist killing a bear in Central Park? Driving to his granddad's, his JFK, driving to his granddad's airport. No, his granddad, it's not his granddad. Right, great uncle. Nephew I think. Great uncle's, great uncle's, JFK's uncle's airport. And he decides to, instead of leaving the bear in his car, he decides to dump it in Central Park, which is a big park. Massive. Don't often see bears there. Well, I don't know, but it is a big park. Massive. Don't often see bears there. Well, I don't

know. So 10 years ago, this story apparently happened and there was a big kerfuffle, as you can imagine. I don't think anyone knew what happened. No, and they never did figure out what happened. Turns out it was JFK's nephew. I think the most interesting story about this is how the flipping fuck did someone find this out so late? It must have been one of the unibirited friends. Yeah, and also how do you get a bear into Central Park without flipping fuck did someone find this out so late? It must have been one of the Inubita friends. Yeah and also how do you get a bear into Central Park without being seen? Exactly, it looks, it's so like, I mean, there's too many people around at any part of the

day. There's always bears. You put it in a bag? He also said that he's got a neurological issue because worms have been eating a portion of his brain from mercury poisoning from eating a large quantity of tuna fish. Stop it. How did he kill them? Stop eating bears. That's probably an associated worm in your brain issue. It took me very late in this story to realise that he was talking to Roseanne.

Yeah. Because she's had a mad few years as well. She's had a mad. She did a lot of anti-semitic stuff. Racist stuff. Yeah, all sorts of stuff. All that good stuff. But for some reason the right wing now flock to her even though she's still a mad... she did a lot of anti-semitic stuff didn't she? Racist stuff, yeah all sorts of stuff. All that good stuff.

But for some reason the right wing now flock to her even though she's still a little racist shit. They're always... it's always the... They're never new acts are they really? You know what I mean? You never get your Cardi B's at the Republican lot. It's always just like... People have gone massively off the boil of mad. Some country in westerns that people... Maybe...

Possibly, yeah. That fella who did try that that, no he was an established act wasn't he? There's a fellow like he's in the forest and he wrote this kind of anthem about you know being trodden down by. Almost like a JD Vance type, a little bit dog whistling there and stuff but it's been a funny, I mean god knows by the time the show goes out, what's happening with the Republican campaign. I mean, JD Vance may even be a drop, but it's, it's a delicious few weeks. There's a big rumor going around the other day that Trump himself might want to stop. Right. Yeah. You don't fancy it anymore. What? Give it, give it over to Vance and watch the world burn. The man doesn't want to govern. Let's make that very clear. Karemaramucci was saying that...

He's not great on that pod, is he? I like him. Really? I like how... He's a dickhead. But he was always a dickhead, wasn't he? He's box-office. He's a box-office dickhead.

Well, I do like the fact that when Alistair and Rory... They're not natural bedfellows, are they? No, it's a weird... You can tell Rory's just so uncomfortable. It's like a plot of a movie where someone said to an aristocrat, it's about time you met your American cousin and they're opposite in every single way. It's a fish out of water. It's a bear out of park situation. But Rory Stewart is so nice and polite that I think it's kind of fine. I started out not liking Scaramucci on that show,

but I do actually quite like him now. I just think the things he's done, you just sort of go, you can't get away with playing both sides of him, mate. Like, you just can't. I mean, kind of. I get what you mean, but the whole point- He knows, like, you know what you're getting going in. And then he suddenly goes, ugh, this is gross. It needs the editing. Isn't the premise of it that you're bringing people together from different aspects?

Yeah, it is, but I mean, but I would say that, um, what I do like the idea... Let me tell you one thing, Caddy K. Caddy K. Caddy K. She's a, she's a black woman in a white world. Why are you talking like that? Why are you being so grimly gross about stuff? Yeah, I know what you mean. I do find the show quite listenable, though. The mooch. He is saying that Trump will take a deal where you make sure I don't go to prison and my lifestyle isn't affected and we all just forget about all this and I will not carry on.

But that's just a rumour. The problem is the Dems have to play by different rules. Why are you calling them the Dems? The Dems. Just like it. Sounds cool, like the Moot. You think it'd make you sound like a politico? The Dems. Yeah. I just want to see NBC spot. Just pulling out names from nowhere. And as Nancy Reagan once said,

better to have a bear in the park than a bird in the hand. Yeah. And they go, what does that mean? I go, I don't know. As Optimus Prime once shouted. I also saw that the Pods of America guys, doing their usual thing while all their staff were on strike. Right.

Because they've got no employment rights. They're claiming they've got no employment rights. Alright, okay. So the Pods of America, crooked media isn't it? The team, the production staff staff were on strike last week. Were they? Yeah. Well, on the nose. Is that why they did so many shows to obfuscate? I don't know really. I listened to an episode to hear about whether they were going to reference it. Yeah. But they didn't. I heard. Well, at one point I think, I don't know any of

their names. They're all quite interchangeable apart from the gay guy. John Lovett, Tommy Vitor, Dan Pfeiffer. I still don't know their names. I've all quite interchangeable apart from the gay guy. Jon Lovett, Jon Favreau, Tommy Vitor, Dan Pfeiffer and Ben Rhodes is one of them as well. Who's the guy who? The four guys who run it are Vitor, Favreau, Lovett. Lovett, Lovett, Oliva guy. Yeah. Vitor, Favreau, Lovett. I think that's the three that run it actually. Yeah. Yeah. He's the one who just talks about getting stoned and stuff. He's funny.

He's funny. They're all funny. But he, I think one of them at one point said to one of the producers I've said, have you got this, so Sods is running this tape and they go, it's actually not him. It's me. And I think, all right, then. So maybe there's, you know, there's some people doing jobs that they want to do. That's probably why. That's probably why. Anyway, so I just thought that was quite interesting because then the reason it's interesting, I suppose, is because there are a progressive leaning approach. They seem to outwardly support all these causes kind of thing. But anyway. If the people who work at Stagg. Taylor's at a winery today. She is. So there you go. Works the job. It's a

part of the contract. No health care. What do you make of all this rioting as well? We haven't had a chance to talk about this yet. Oh, apart from the damage done and the horrible feeling of safety that a lot of vulnerable people will feel, it's been a beautiful showcase of the most toothless, the overweight and the mentally ill in this country, but acceptable walking mental. Some of the, there was that one word, two teeth in her head, who somebody beautifully said she could bite into a curly well and not taste chocolate, which is bravo. You're not punching down a bit there? Punching down a bit there talking about people like that?

I think if you're going to stand in front of a camera and start waffling on about fucking immigrants, I think you're allowed to, I think you're allowed to. I've got a couple of mates who are as liberal and as progressive as, you know, perhaps people who listen to this show will expect because they're my friends. But I've done very well for themselves, not from humble beginnings like us, but have done very well for themselves, who have, and they would profess to be, you know, possessing of liberal politics and progressive politics, but they use this stuff like the great unwashed this and the constant. And I just wonder, I take your point, but I just wonder where the line is drawn and what you should, the terms that should be being used shouldn't be because they're human beings

at the end of the day, you know. But they're acting inhumanely, aren't they? Sure. But when you're broadcasting, you do have a beings. But they're acting inhumanely aren't they? Sure, but when you're broadcasting you do have a responsibility. And they've been sold lies. Yeah, fine, but that's not effort is it? I'm not broadcasting. Okay, what? Narrowcasting. I know the video you mean anyway, carry on.

But there are just a lot of great examples of people massively getting the wrong end of the stick and not just getting the wrong end of the stick, just making mad stuff up they've made themselves. Let me be absolutely... A Titanic lady. Yeah, fine. Too many people, it sank, that's not what it sank. That's mental. Right.

The woman who, the man who sort of got upset because this used to be a pro country, we used to have pubs on every corner, betting shops on every corner, like, we still got those things. I'm on board with that. To be fair, I'm on board with that. There's no way for me to gamble. I've got to his money.

To make my position clear, I'm not both sides in this. I think it's been horrendous. I have enjoyed more than anyone the brick in the nuts guy. Brick in the nuts guy. The guy who kept giving the big one and then getting attacked by a dog and crying. The guy who was giving it the big one and then got his trousers pulled down while being arrested. The gay couple in Hartlepool, one of them crying in the dock as well.

Was it? Yeah, good stuff. Because you... Like all the January 6 rioters, a lot of them were crying in the dock, weren't they? They were, they were in tears. I love it, yeah. I just like the underwhelming looting. It was like the last time there was looting.

Big bags of Basmati rice, meh. That was that one guy's shoe on, fists full of socks. Fists full of crocs as well. There was one guy running out, I think of Greg's, he just had loads of gingerbread men. I think, ha ha, yeah guys. I've never bought anything in the Greg's, ever. What? You've heard me.

What? You've heard me. You must have at some point. I've been in Greg's once with you in Newcastle when we did a tour then, I didn't buy anything. Right. Not out of principle,. I didn't buy anything. Not out of principle, I just didn't want anything. The great and most sausage rolls, disgusting. Someone bought me a vegan sausage roll. Remember we had Andrea who worked with us, she was

vegan and she bought me a vegan sausage roll. They're great. I liked it. I liked it. But what's the, so when the riots happened for obviously very different reasons back in 2011 and people were looting trainers and all that. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So what's the so when it comes to looting and that kind of stuff, what's the connection between doing that and the protest you're supposed to be? So I think the protests we've just seen are fucking horrendous, like really awful, awful shit, right? Terribly hateful stuff, really frightening stuff as well, like, you know, properly nasty,

racist shit, right? What's the connection between the quote unquote legitimate concern, which I don't think is anything more than a convenient fig leaf for bullshit racism personally, and I come from a working class working community so I should know. What's the connection though even if they have if they use that fig leaf what's the connection between like nicking shit from shops? Well I mean it's not and they weren't last time but it's just kind of like but I think the different situation back then was it was mainly done perpetrated by children. But is it just people who think oh I'm doing shit here and the police aren't stopping me

so I'm going to do more shit? Yeah. Because they're managing the situation. I don't think, I think kicking in the storefront, you're like, oh, now the window's broken. I can get into the shop. I'm somewhere that I shouldn't be because this is usually closed. Hey, if I'm stealing something, it's hardly compounding it really, is it? I'm just continuing more of the same really, the excitement.

And you do sort of think that like, cause there's one plan for Southend tonight, I think, and you do sort of think that generationally, with the abundance of cocaine in that strata of men, mainly, cheap shit cocaine, like we're not, this gen, that generation will be filled out or filled out and filled in pretty quickly i don't think their bodies can take the amount of abuse they give them and drug addiction on top of that i told you the one thing i think i might have told you this at the time is to remind you i went to see a private cardiologist because i had a problem with my chest and it was all fine in the end but the reason i wanted to do it is because i i didn't

want to wait for ages on the NHS. Fortunately enough, through money, by the way, I have earned. I spent it on going to see a private guy and I got a lot of care because it was private. I know it's two tier and I know it's not fair, but that's how it is. He told me the guy, because he gives you get a lot more time chatting to the cardiologist when it's private. Yeah. He said to me, honestly, it is like epidemic levels of heart problems with young men. He said it's crazy.

He says he sees people every day who are in their 30s and they've got the hearts of like a 75 year old and stuff because of the access to cheap cocaine. It's bad. I just sort of think that that'll wipe a lot of men out who have these, have those sort of lifestyles and hold these views. And it's kind of, what it does further is it makes, I don't know how you feel about this cause you live in a slightly different part of the world to me, but in London, I live in South London, right? Quite fairly central relatively speaking. And it's a different

world. It's a different world. Like that stuff, like that we have, we had a street, I'm trying to sound like a cliche, have a middle-class Londoner here, but we're a street. I'm trying to sound like a cliche of a fucking middle-class Londoner here But we're a street party every year. Yeah, and it is like beyond Comprehension that there would be any kind of racism of that nature in that kind of environment They're so different because the difference is the people of Cleveland and Millersburg don't see any fucking diversity and the people who live where you live There are people who are not white British, like floating around. So like, that is the difference because we have actually experienced, we have lived experience of cohabiting with people who are not white British. What did you think of Elon Musk's take?

I don't know where the whole censorship versus public safety kind of thing, like where you slice that pie. But I would say that like, it's getting to the point where, right, why aren't we shutting down certain, it's certainly, why aren't we stopping people accessing certain accounts on Twitter, which is something we can do governmentally. That's not- Because the appetite for being sued by tremendously powerful organisations, basically is the answer to that. And the dynamic is completely fucked.

And I'll tell you an example of the dynamic being completely fucked. Elon Musk was interviewed by our fucking prime minister about two months ago. So what does that tell you? Where the power dynamic is? But it's not a case of like misinformation. It's just like the owner of a news agency effectively, a media agency, a media organization have decided that they can just incite literal riots in another country, which seems like the sort of thing that we would take a very dim view on if Putin did it.

The sheer volume of tweets about British Civil War yeah was astonishing to me yeah but it was almost a bit like okay. Rotherham gangs and all that shit. Bear in mind that like let's make it very clear pedophilia and child molestation happens with organized white British men far more than any other ethnic group in this country and by focusing on one particular group gets them off scot free. But it's not, I take that point, but the point I'm making is a separate one which is just that mate, you're not even a fucking British citizen. So where does the power lie and why

should it lie there? Like it makes an absolute mockery of any kind of democracy when you've got people doing that kind of stuff. And you're right. I just don't understand why the New Service, when they do this sort of thing, they are liable for, you know, they are bound by rules and regs about what you can say, what you can't say. And Twitter and Facebook and Instagram, they can do whatever the fuck they want. They can incite what they want. They can regime change all they want because they're checks and balances. They just feel like it's people can just say what they want. Because their checks and balances, they just feel like it's, people can just say what they want and we're just chasing individuals for things

they might have tweeted about fucking rape gangs and stuff. But like what we should be saying is, well, if you can't keep your producers of your content in check, then your company can't operate in this country. And it's not about- Because they hide behind the idea that they're just an aggregator and it's free speech, right? One of the people who stole something with a St George's flag T-shirt on, he stole a bath bomb from Lush. Just throw it at the place, boom!

Delicious! What a sweet smelling riot. There's a lot of bins on fire to be fair, so I think I imagine it absolutely honks. Anyway, when I rounded off the show on Thursday I did promise people a banana spider story. We will have found an ad break at some point in this show. Do you want me to throw it to one now? Nah, nah, nah, we'll just crack on. It probably already happened.

And producer Taylor, thanks for sorting it out. It's probably already happened. Alright, here we go then. This is an email here from Chris who says, hello, on a recent episode, fellow listener had emailed you about Lidl slash Audi power tools with inside information. He was working in the fruit and veg section. That prompted Luke to remark upon the fact that one should be careful when unpacking fruit in cases of an exotic insect or spider. I found a snail in my car.

You did find a snail in your car, not a fruit and vegetable. I've got too many of them. This caused me to remember a great story from the sister of the partner I have access to. He's an acronymized that as P hat. P hat, unfortunate. Partner I have access to. I've done a transcript in case this is preferred as I do not recall voice notes featuring in the Luke and Pete show and there may be a good reason for this.

But it's somewhat more hilarious coming from Hannah whose blessing we have to use the note see below Okay, so Hannah picks up the story now. It was Del Monte and Wotton Bassett, which is near Swindon So she's working processing. I guess so she's working like a factory Del Monte factory We go to work and have our special places on the conveyor belt Each of us would have a big red emergency button in between our knees. We would have to break the bananas into packs of five. If they were bigger bunches, the leftovers would go in the disregard bin and pop the bunch back on.

If we saw a spider, you had to press the button. An alarm would go off. Everyone was trained when that happened to take three large steps back away from the conveyor belt, turn and walk another three further steps. Then two men or women would come out in these big white hazmat suits with a big vacuum sucker upper. Obviously whoever pressed the buzzer it would make a light go off on that conveyor belt so they would come over and suck up whatever was there and the alarm would sound three more times and then you returned to your station. That says to me there's a lot more exotic spiders in this country than we think.

Correct and also can you imagine the things that have to be in a first aid kit at that factory. There must be exotic epipens and anaphylaxis shock stuff and kind of you know anti-venom and stuff. There must be such amazing things that are in the first aid bit. Also, take me to the banana spider graveyard. Exactly, yeah. Where does that go into? Where is it? Do they burn them? Have I built my house on one? Where is it? Where is it? Well, if it's anything like Thames water, I imagine they just put it into the Thames. So Hannah just describes them as Ghostbusters style sucker upers in the email.

Presumably they're just taking like banana up, they're taking the whole thing up. No, I reckon they're fine on it and going... You reckon? Yeah, yeah. What if it's on the banana? You don't want to knock it off a banana. I reckon it's got quite a wide girthy kind of suck up the whole banana bit. Yeah.

They're not even getting all of them because I saw a couple, I told you when I was asked that. And it was frightening. Where they hiding then? Yeah, they've obviously just they've obviously got through. Black patches. Got through the spider's eggs. Yeah, they've got through the quality control process. Yeah. But it's. If you're if you're not HR, if you're you know, you get given a bit more money if you're medically trained in an office. This is your final end of boss. If you're trained to be one of those kind of like a first responder, if someone gets a spider bite, you must be doing specialist stuff. At Universal Music when I worked there, if you volunteered to be the first aider,

you got the next two grand a year. That's a lot of money. Yeah, I thought that was a pretty good deal. That's a good deal. Then every time somebody gets their, gets a bit of RSI in the mouse hand, you've got to come over and rub Ralph Jackson's face. I wouldn't be worried about that. I'd be worried about someone having a heart attack or something. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. I think out of all of the things, and I've done it the first day of course of my time, I'd find that honestly I could do a defib, relate a machine, you know, anytime. They come with instructions to tell you what to do. Yeah, you just slap them on the go, stand back and they tell you what to do. But doing a sling, impossible.

I could be there for weeks to figure out how to do a proper sling. That's like when you think about the idea of being in a post-apocalyptic environment, which you probably have in the next two or three years, let's be honest. The thing that you... What's against the spiders? I'll tell you what's going to fuck you, is something like really common that there's no apparatus, there's no longer any apparatus in place to help you with. Yeah.

Broken ankle. Right, yeah. Do you know what I mean? But I think with stuff like that you would just be lame. I think back then you just, you'd just become lame, no? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you'd be saying. It affects you for the rest of your life. It's not going to be reset properly. And if we devolve back into some kind of hunter gatherer community, they're leaving you behind.

I'd have a go. People are leaving you behind. Splints. Do you know, it's like I forgot to mention to you ages ago, and I've just been reminded of it now. Do you know that some scientists believe that human beings were actually domesticated by wheat? So basically, human beings used to be hunter-gatherers, right? Travelling bands, they would go and hunt, they gather fruit and vegetables, they'd hunt game and wild animals and they lived in quite a kind of itinerant lifestyle According to the seasons, right? They only started staying in one place human beings when farming came along and

farming came along because of wheat Right, it's a successful crop. Hmm, and it became so important to Human beings diets and their existence and stuff that a lot of scientists, there's obviously some technical stuff involved, but a lot of scientists, or not a lot, some scientists think that actually if you look at it a certain way, human beings were made to become sedentary, domesticated, different types of species entirely. Because we could reproduce crops in one place. Yeah, because wheat was so successful as a crop and was so easy to sow and so easy to

farm. We've basically been chained to wheat. Yeah. I wouldn't say I'm broadly anti-zoo, but I'm like, animals, at the end of the day, it looks depressing when they're in a cage, but animals only do move around when they've exhausted food supplies where they are. So if you provide food supply- What do you mean by animals though? Well, any kind of animals. No, not any kind of animals. Any kind of animals. Well, lions. I don't know, a lion. Like they only move around because

there's, because the food's being exhausted, don't they? So like if you could teach a, if you give him a, a hoe and some seeds, he could grow himself some animals. But a lion's range is massive. Yeah. And it's being fed, isn't it, in a zoo? Yeah. So it doesn't need to move around.

It doesn't need to sort of go anywhere. But that's only one aspect of its existence. If a lion, I think, had an access to like a, I don't know, a hole that rabbits came out of, and they could just eat rabbits whenever it fancied on the Serengeti. Are you all right? What are you talking about? A magic rabbit hole? Yeah, exactly. If there was a magic, if there happened to be a magic rabbit hole, which is basically what they do in the zoos, I reckon the lion would stay there. And I've added

in I reckon, so that people don't shout at me because I'm cruel. Cynical. So I've got some more information on this. It's actually Yuval Noah Harari who argues this point about wheat in the book Sapiens, which I have read, so that's probably where I got it from. Although I am aware of the fact that Dr Michael Brooks and Rick Edwards on Eureka, a sister stature, have said that Harari talks a whole lot of shit. So who knows? He says that the agricultural revolution was history's biggest fraud and that plants like wheat, rice and potatoes domesticated homo sapiens rather than vice versa because domestication

involves artificially driving out the evolution, artificially driving the evolution of an organism. But that's the thing with like, that's the thing with like definite statements. You do sort of get excited. You're like, oh, that has to be the answer. But as with everything, it's all contributory. Just being confident in what you're saying. I do not have the confidence to question that. You're like, oh, that has to be the answer. But as with everything, it's all contributory. It's all about me again. Just being confident in what I say. Confident in what you say.

And you not having the confidence to question it. It blows your mind. You go, yeah, cool. But yeah, there's always loads of things going on. All right, let's have another email before we go. So this is from Eric. He said, I was thrilled to hear someone addressing the public talk about the real problem of current society

on a recent episode. Not enough people scared to get punched in the mouth for talking shit. Right. Seems to me to stem from stopping our children from sorting each other out. If at a young age we get punched in the face when we say something stupid or mean, we tend to hold onto that for a few years. My advice is to parents is to let your kids fight. It's good for them as long as those fights are somewhat limited to, you know, fists in

the face and that stuff. Parents don't forget to teach your children that fighting with weapons is not acceptable. I don't know how that email got through the net, but it has. But there is some truth in it, isn't there? Eric's gone probably a bit far there. But what I mean is I remember, and you won't be surprised at this. I told you this before, I think I remember getting in a little bus stop with someone who was a bit bigger than me, same age as me in school, but a bit bigger than me. And, um, they pushed me in the corridor with the lockers were. Yeah. And I went backwards. I was being a dickhead. I was like probably slagging them off or talking to piss in front of these girls. I was basically showing off and this guy pushed

me and I went backwards over my backpack and fell over. Right. It was embarrassing, right? Cause I'm about 14 and people laughed. And I got up and I wound up a big right hander, hit him in the cheek slash jaw and he didn't really do anything. He didn't go down. You thought he was going to go down and you're like... I thought, oh that's me. I think I broke my little finger doing it because it was like bone against bone. It was power. Pure power. He just said something, he was like fine. And I think he hit me back in the stomach. It really fucking hurt.

And at that point I was like, yeah, I probably won't get involved in that stuff anymore because that's not gone. Obviously my overwhelming memory is like, that's not gone as I thought it would have gone. Right. But I learned that at 14. Yeah. The problem with these people who think they're the fucking dog's dick now with their guns in the US or

fighting or rioting or whatever it may be, they've either had that effect and it's not effect, they've had that and it's not gone badly for them enough for them to remember it and they're stupid or they've never had it. So I do get what Eric's saying. It's a lot of posturing I suppose in the, in the strong boy rioting that we sort of see around. It's a lot of like, come on in, come on in, go at them. If you want to be the change you want to be in the world, go and attack them properly. Let me put it another way. Punch a riot police in the face.

I'm as liberal as they come, as you know. Not as liberal as you actually, but I am pretty liberal. So I do understand it's not just about violence and all the rest of it, but do you think that that guy who got attacked by that police dog has had his outlook changed in some way? Yeah. He must have. That's reality, isn't it? Because it's not just like men like that, they don't want to do anything.

So to make court dates and stuff, this isn't going to be like a two hour ordeal, is it? It's going to be the next six months of his life. But they're also going to be, sure, but they're also going to be at a very basic level because they are very basic people. Or dog with sharp mouth, hurty man. That's what they're going to be thinking, right? Maybe, yeah. Can I also just say I also loved the dog enjoying it.

Yeah, wagging his tail. He's well into it. I've never really seen that before and I was well surprised at how much the dog was looking around like, good boy. Yeah, good stuff, innit? Just like a fleshy stick in it or a tennis ball. A peeperami. Anyway, that's been the Luke and Pete Show. We're back on Thursday.

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