The Luke and Pete Show - Breakbeat rewind

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

Welcome to a brand new episode of The Luke and Pete Show! Our two eponymous villains are here once again to run the rule over whatever takes their fancy on the world's least-focused podcast. This week, Luke bought a piece of old hardware from his mate at a train station and as a result has suffered a couple of electric shocks. It's almost as if Pete is a bad influence on him. There's also talk of a rave in Thetford Forest that Pete *did not* organise despite reports to the contrary, and with the help of a listener we debate the benefits of the technology on display in the movie Aliens.Get in touch with us! The address is [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

it's that time again you've got to go to the toilet there's an incredible pressure in your bladder and you need to get rid of it also the luke Luke and Pete show is here. Hello, I'm Pete Donaldson. I'm joined by Luke Moore. Sorry for starting the show like this, Luke. I just got a bit excited and I remembered about my own bladder filling up. I've got used to the ways that you like to start various shows that I've been on with you. And so it doesn't even really register these days. Just get on with it, mate. And to be fair to listeners, I should probably, in in the interest of transparency tell them that you've tried to start the show about four times already but i keep stopping you to go and do something so i'm now finally back in situ but everything i need um so it's partly on me well i mean the first time um you

were being electrocuted by something second time you didn't have your bottle of water yeah what's going on in the moor household what would do how do you get electrocuted by something. Second time you didn't have your bottle of water. What's going on in the Moore household? How did you get electrocuted? Why is there a constant threat of electrocution? Two things could be related, could they? Water and electricity. Let me just take the lid off my Nalgene, and I'll tell you.

Hang on a second. There we go. All done. You sounded like you... Did you mute your microphones? I didn't have to listen to it. That's hilarious. That's friendship, isn't it?

That's friendship. I thought you'd gone off the line. I thought he's not only taking the lid off his Nalgene, he's taking the lid off the fucking shore. No, no, no. Just took the lid off the Nalgene, but I muted my mic because I don't know how upset you and apparently the listeners get,

although I've never heard a listener complain about it. As long as I've got a warning, I don't mind the Nalgene. As long as they get a warning, but's just unnecessary yeah fair enough um so the electricity situation basically um i bought an old um wire apple no i bought an old wire an old haunted house yeah i bought an old apple old Apple MacBook kind of monitor, I suppose you'd call it. Is it a MacBook monitor? It's probably just an Apple monitor, really.

Right. My good friend. They're expensive. I know. Well, this is the thing. So I looked into buying a proper new one. They're about five grand, no exaggeration. They're literally 5,000 pounds.

I thought, I don't want that badly, but I do want one. Anyway, my good friend and all around legend john rust aka nts radios john rust aka worldwide touring dj john rust shout out john rust as he would say yeah um he had one for sale and he said it's a bit old but you're welcome to take it off my hands if you want and just give me like 50 quid or something for it. And I was like, okay, brilliant. So I met him at Sydenham Station. And because he's like a proper trendy dude,

he was standing outside Sydenham Station on his own. He just got on the world's most shiftiest bloke with a MacBook monitor in a fucking plastic bag. I pulled over. I gave him the readies. Give him the merchandise. I gave him a big hug to say, nice to see you. This is pre-COVID, so don't at me.

And so I set up the monitor. Now, it works absolutely fine. It's got a load, but the problem is, Pete, it's got a load of, because Apple changed their connection things every five minutes, it's got about 14 different connecting extensions before it actually works with my current macbook so right but what happens is if i unplug it from um the macbook to go in like um you know to do something else or take my laptop somewhere else

and touch some of the connectors oh i get a bit of a shock, yeah. It's a not inconsequential amount of voltage going across those. Because, I mean, it is, you know, it's video. There's a lot of information getting put across. Should I be using it or not? A lot of energy. I mean, it depends on how old the monitor is. I mean, you could have just bought any monitor.

I mean, the MacBook. Oh, yeah, that's a good point, actually. Yeah, you didn't have to go for a specific Mac monitor. I'd love to see it, though. I'm annoyed that you've not taken a picture of it in in the past for me i mean i was i was i will send you a picture later on and i'll share it for those of us listening who are so bored that they would actually look at that photo but but how old is it i'll let you be the judge of that when i tell you

that when i moved to the back of the house to work a few weeks ago when it was unbearably hot in the spare room it was so heavy that um it took me a lot longer than I expected to uh to get it to the back room and when I took it off Johnny Rust um the plastic bag was almost breaking it broken in two so it's a very old very heavy monitor there's a sticker on the back of it that says it's been inspected electrically uh uh in 2014 so right says it's been inspected electrically in 2014. Right. So it's been in somewhere in a professional office kind of environment where someone comes around and checks your odds and sods. Sounds like he has lifted it by the sounds of it.

Dodgy old Johnny Rusty Rockets. Yeah. But what are we talking? What connectors are we talking? DVI, HDMI? All of it, mate. Basically, any connector you can think of is involved. It's even got a Cinema HD Display 90-watt power adapter box

that I've got to use as well. Well, look, Cinema Displays, they are very, very good, but it sounds like you've got a rather ancient one. Hilariously, there was a, I think, £ good, but it sounds like you've got a rather ancient one. Hilariously, there was a £1,000 when they released the new Mac Pro, the ones that look like a big

computer tower. The cheese grater, I think people call it. You always talk about that. It's a lovely bit of kit. Very modular, very interesting, very upgradable, but super expensive. The sort of computer you think the only person who can afford this is Kanye West. it's it's it's a lovely bit of kit very modular very interesting very upgradable but uh super expensive the sort of computer you think the only person who can afford this is kanye west yeah and even he was caught um pirate in um plugins for his vst plugins for his uh

whatever he does ableton pro i don't know he makes his music but um uh yeah they hilariously made a um stand just a bit just a stand just a a Visa mount for the back of the monitor to stand it up £1,000. And so that was kind of like hilariously kind of the mark of why it's a ridiculous product because the stand for the monitor, not the monitor itself, was £1,000. What about, how good is the processing power? Not of the stand. On a stand.

No, of the actual, of the brand new cheese grater Apple. Oh, it's through the roof. It's through the roof, Luke. Could you get better processing power elsewhere from a PC? Yes, you could. And you could get it about five grand cheaper because that's just the way. But you'd have to build it yourself or get someone to build it. And you wouldn't have the Mac ecosystem and you wouldn't have all of the things that you are used to using a mac it's for people who

use high productivity max and actually i was talking about this this week about the whole um working from home the wfh revolution that's going to be happening uh in this country and pretty much everywhere in the world um people are really excited about the possibilities of, you know, tucking your kids into bed and all that stuff. My problem with it is, is that the infrastructure in this country. So again, I've got my, look, I need some kids to tuck in. You can't just go around tucking in random kids. I told you that.

I'm just, I need my commute. I need a reason to get out of the house because I have no other reason. But I was just sort of saying, like recently, I was having an inspiration argument with my partner, and she was sort of saying that it's great that we can all work from home and stuff. I was saying it will be great for some people, but if you're in like a data entry job or like a rubbish job where you are just, you know, typing in data,

your company is instantly going to have those snooping softwares, uh, that find out how much work you're doing and whether you're on Facebook or whether you're on Twitter or whether you're just on Reddit or whatever all day. And so your life is going to get worse. Um, all of these companies are going to spend all of their time. Um, you know, spend all of their money, um, outside and the water and the gas and the rentals of the offices that they've got in central London or central Manchester or central wherever. And they're not going to pass on those savings to you. You're going to be converting part of your house into an office. You're going to be working from home.

So that money should be passed on to you. It clearly won't be. And if you work in productivity, if you work in video or images or, like us even, sound, producer Katie, who we spoke at length about to her chagrin last week on the show, she couldn't work from home a few times because the internet was just under so much, was getting battered by a housemate so i don't think we have the infrastructure or the business leaders um to um make this a successful transition personally i think there's going to be a lot of kickback i think i think that um touching on katie and some of the some of the people that

worked last year are perhaps a bit younger i remember the thing that I always end up thinking about is that when I when I first moved to London and first started working I first job I had was at Capital Radio which is now whatever it is global and it was a wicked place I came from a small town uh doing not much really and moved to London found a job and it was really the making of me but not just because I was able to get a job but because of the social activity around it because you spent so much time with young interesting new people and there were social clubs and there were things to do and there was lots of perks that may be even a bit intangible when it comes to to you know working life and if if people are now going to just sit at home working in their pants all day every day

and get no real social interaction a lot of stuff you said there i agree with some of it i don't necessarily agree but one thing i will make absolutely clear is that a huge part of being successful in your career is being able to interact with people socially it's how you interact with other people and if you go into a very impressionable age, just at a university, 21, 22, all the way through your 20s, you really start to hone and develop who you are as a human being. And if you're not getting any proper social interaction with new people, all you do is sit at home on the internet, or you hang out with the mates that you've already known from the past. I think that's really sad. And I'm only speaking on behalf of my own experience. I'm sure other people are far more adept at it than I am. But I find that a really, really important part of why I loved living in London. And it would be really sad if we don't get that anytime soon because of what's happened. So there's a lot of other intangible problems with this situation that perhaps haven't been thought about.

that perhaps haven't been thought about. Yeah, and I think some people might say, look, if your friendship group is just your work colleagues, then you've probably got bigger problems. But I completely agree. I wouldn't be – most of my friendship groups have come from work. Certainly most of my partners have. I understand that point, but like ultimately that's kind of – and I know some people do say that.

I'm not having a go at you for saying it because you're right people will say that but my response to that will be look i'm not some yeah how i didn't know anyone when i moved to london i moved along with three friends i knew no one else yeah right all three of those people now no longer live in london so the only way i was able to make um friends and to kind of develop myself and to and to pick up you know different uh me to be up, you know, different, to be perfectly honest, meeting people from different backgrounds, like different experiences, like people from different countries, different parts of the world.

You know, your first access to that is either through some kind of football team or sports team or social kind of group or it's work. And most people spend, sad as it sounds, eight hours plus a day at work. And so that's where they're going to get a lot of their interactions from. And the social aspect of life in a place like London, and I'm sure it's the same in Manchester, in Birmingham, in Sydney, in New York City,

in Moscow, wherever it may be, if that's lost long-term, I think that's, personally, I think that's really sad. But again, I'm coming at from from the business part of you i just don't i just think said we're being never that's the first time you've ever said that guys i'm coming at this from a business point of view like we've been asked to turn our to turn our uh to turn our houses our homes into offices and and you know it would maybe you've got a one-bedroom house and you've got a family or a partner

and you're both asked to turn part of your house into an office. It's like, well, there should be some kind of, like, dividend that you get out of your company for doing that because they're saving all this money on real estate and, you know, and central London offices and stuff like that. I think there should be some kind of... We should be able to live and work where we want but but i think there should be some financial recompense all i'm saying is that some of my fondest memories after i first moved to london

in my early 20s are um cancelling agreed social events due to crippling social anxiety and if some other people don't get that i will be very very sad that they can't also experience that. You know, just the hours I spent thinking of excuses to not do something, that's all going to be lost. Oh, look, and nowadays, look, all the nightclubs are closed. All of the bars that are late night are closed. Where do you go to make stupid mistakes that you regret for the rest of your life?

Where do you do that? Never mind converting part of your flat or home into an office, could you convert one of the rooms into a nightclub? Into an illegal rave, possibly. Speaking of that, are you going to explain what you got up to

over the weekend? Oh, what did I get up to at the weekend? Organising a 500 strong rave in Thetford Forest. I've seen some of the pictures. Thetford is a beautiful place to have an intimate get-together. If I want to bring a

sound system in the back of a lorry, I am allowed to do that. What's it going to do? Scare a couple of squirrels? Well, I'm sure the squirrels enjoy the music. The breakbeat sounds that I love so much the breakbeat sounds smashing out the breakbeat so for those who haven't seen this story uh five people were arrested and fined in connection with a rave in thetford forest it was attended by apparently more than 500 people

now i don't think thetford forest is that well populated so i'm fairly certain if the police were doing their job properly if they were detecting properly they would be able to see this happening before it actually happened yeah and also and also just kind of like you know all right you know you're gonna need enough drugs to get through to the next day because there's no taxis there's no there's no taxis imagine how miserable no taxis. Imagine how miserable that is. You get to about two o'clock in the morning, you're like, I want to go home now. It's like, you can't.

You're in Thetford Forest and you can't drive because you're off your head. Yeah, I remember being a teenager and being dragged along to parties miles away from my house. And I do mean literally miles away. I mean, I remember being dragged to a party. I lived in Gosport at the time, or Leon Solent. And that's on the south coast,

about eight miles west of Portsmouth. Now, I remember being dragged to, literally being dragged to house parties in Bournemouth. Right? That's an absolute mission away. It's hours away, right? And then getting to it, exactly as you said

there, getting to like one or two in the morning going, I't know i'm into this to be honest but what am i gonna do the first train's at like 6 30 so what am i gonna do yeah and sometimes you'd be really into it sometimes you just wouldn't and i don't think mind you haven't said that if you're a teenager i think a large part of your growing up as we've just said about social interaction should be you know having to go through these kind of experiences um but apparently a um a large flatbed lorry pete as you've alluded to there was um was seized according according to police with uh it had a generator on it a load of audio equipment um all sorts of stuff i actually was very um impressed by the

resourcefulness of the people that organize this now obviously i'd like to have seen them clean up after themselves and make sure that they left the forest as they found it but i mean is it really the worst thing in the world other than the covid thing which is obvious but i i know that the the uh legislation has been in place since friday to stop these things happening due to covid so i get that but put it to one side there's been legislation in place since Friday to stop these things happening due to COVID. So I get that. But put it to one side, there's been legislation in place for a long time, like the Criminal Justice Act and all that type of stuff, to stop young people having a good time. I just find that the essence of that is a little bit mean-spirited, isn't it?

It is a bit mean-spirited. I guess they have to be seen to be doing something. But I also think, what is the difference? I just cannot tell. You walk through the middle of London, uh, on, on a Friday or Saturday night and it's war to all people.

And they're not clearing those out because the people are spending money. Um, but in an illegal rave in the middle of the forest, no one's really spending money. No one's supporting the economy. No one's drinking out to help out on a Saturday night, uh, in Thetford forest.

So if I was going to be cynical about it, I would say there's a little bit of that as well. I think the same reason why we're being quite prohibitive about the places we're allowed to go at the moment without quarantining. And if I was going to be a conspiracy theorist maniac, I would sort of say maybe that's got something to do with the fact that the government doesn't have anything,

doesn't make any money out of people spending money in france or spain should we do should we do um should we do like a proper bit of like tinfoil hat merch yes i think we can put it on when they when they listen yes exactly exactly you can talk about how much money rose royce are making out of out of uh the the the the airplanes stuff i've not been in the sky and and the money that the government are having to kind of bail um you know airplane companies out but um but i just think airplane companies but i do think that there's a certain bit of me that sort of thinks they'd rather us spend a bit money in pret a manger how much how would you go about organizing a rave for 500 people in a forest?

What would be the first thing you'd do? Fireworks. Just fireworks. Flares. Fireworks. The three Fs. Flares, fireworks and fucking great speakers. And Fetford Forest.

That's me for that. And Fetford Forest. Can I also just say, I don't want to have a go at the police who obviously do a really difficult job at the best of their ability. The police. Can I also just say, I don't want to have a go at the police, who obviously do a really difficult job at the best of their ability. The police. And there obviously are some amazing police officers. They do a really difficult and important job.

But I do want to point the following out, though. A hundred officers were deployed to break up the event at 11.20pm on Saturday night. It took them until 6.30 on sunday to officially shut it down right right what have they been doing for 19 hours same thing they do every carnival weekend i have a little dance with their hats off yeah um with the locals someone's getting involved they're having a little dance like they do every uh every weekend um at carnival yeah probably a bit of that to me i was just getting a bit involved then they're going right lads and lasses you've had your fun we've got to break this up let's go yeah yeah i i also ten thousand

pound fine look that goes straight to the to the economy pete well i mean would they pay it though i mean you can sell on the breakbeat speakers. Breakbeat? Stop saying breakbeat. Why do you keep saying that? I've never heard you say that before. I don't know. It's been a long day already. It's only half three.

Shall we hit an ad break and get back with some emails? Yeah, go for it. Probably something we should be doing. All right. Football's back and we are here to laugh about it. Probably something we should be doing. All right. Football's back and we are here to laugh about it. Hellenius in the League Cup, he was trying to defend with his hands and he yanked his shorts down.

Straight off. See you later. Yeah. But Hellenius got the shot away, which I thought was very professional. Whether it's players losing their pants or managers losing their shit. And I thought about that when you could just hear Morty

showering at Pablo Fornals. And then he just loses all sense of himself at the end when Fornals blazes it over. Oh! That was the noise. Oh! The Football Rambler here every day with new episodes covering the lighter side of football.

I walked past a trophy shop at the weekend and they said we're only allowing one person in at a time. Nobody wants any fucking trophies, mate. Don't worry, there's nothing happening. Also, it's a cheek. Null and void. Your five-a-side league is null and void. Piss off. Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts He went through and all you hear is

Shoot Pablo, shoot Finish, finish Pablo This was a Stakhanov production And we're back We're back with the emails What you have sent and once again You've embarrassed, not embarrassed us

You've flattered us Thank you very much for getting in touch everyone um on the email hello at lukeandpeatshort.com do keep them coming in though i can see us running out running out at a rate of knots so uh we do need your correspondence post haste can i can i ask a question that is possibly going to get me in trouble with all of our listeners and pete it's a terrifying situation to be in because you are currently the thin blue line between me and the wrath of our listeners okay and okay your memory isn't great at the best of times but i am sure i trailed an email from jw muller last week but i can't actually remember if i've read it or not

i don't think i did that sounds like yeah i think you did actually that's a really good show i think from J.W. Muller last week, but I can't actually remember if I read it or not. I don't think I did, did I? That sounds like, yeah, I think you did, actually. That's a really good shout. I think you definitely did. So your memory is, once again, top class. No, but did I read it or not, is the question. You didn't read it, no. Oh, okay, great.

Okay, in which case, I will read it now, then. I'm going to have to read it now. Okay. Because we talked a little bit about someone leaving dairy products around someone's car, didn't we? And I said, oh, I've got an email here from JW Miller, and you thought that I was taking the piss. Remember?

I did. Because of Miller Rice. It just sounds like the bloke who jumped out that plane. Yeah. That's DB Cooper, isn't it? DB Cooper, yeah. Anyway, look, for those of you who've listened last week, if I did indeed read this email out, I don't think I did.

But if I did, just it's a great email enjoy it again for the second time it's almost like when um a drum bass dj does a rewind here we go breakbeat uh breakbeat dj does a breakbeat rewind here we go uh hello luke and pete love the show uh as a huge fan of the movies alien and, I felt the need to defend the levels of technology used by the colonial Marines as the brave colonists of LV-426. Okay? This is a callback to an episode a couple of weeks ago

where you and I took the piss a little bit, out of the technology that an 80s movie thought existed like Mars in the future, right? You remember that? No wireless. Well, exactly. Well, J.W. Muller goes on to say, which, by the way, his name makes him sound like he is some kind of futurist.

He says, the idea that people responsible for the movie in the 80s made poor guesses at what the future would be like is the exact opposite take that i and several friends have on the movie several friends showing off instead of guessing that in the future things would be fantastical from a modern perspective and everyone would have laser guns and jet packs they took a very pragmatic approach to what heavy duty military and exploration technology would look like i actually really like this take it's a really good angle he goes on to say all the technology in aliens is built to be as rugged and tough as possible not only is this practical but it's true to life from a practical standpoint if you're exploring a new hostile

environment on a frontier planet you're not going to show up with fancy touchscreen devices and wireless networks the atmosphere of planet lv426 is full of debris that wouldn't be conducive to getting a good wi-fi signal right not to mention the possibility of landing on a planet where the normal radiation could degrade and interfere with the standard frequencies used by your wi-fi technology i understand it is happening in the future but is it so strange that frontiers men and women wouldn't bring a wireless network to a future planet when we live in a world currently where a brick wall can destroy your internet connection when you're trying to check Twitter from the bathroom. Beyond that, from a military and industrial standpoint,

technology of big expensive machines and equipment often lags years or decades behind consumer technology. The modern fighter jets in most militaries originally began development in the late 60s. The SR-71 began development in the late 50s. The Colt 1911 handgun was first developed in, yes, 1911, and is still in service nearly unchanged today. The AK-47 was designed in 1948, and even Boeing 747s and commercial fleets still take software updates from 3. a half inch floppy disks.

There are no touchscreens on a forklift. The point being that what it's doing, the technology is perfect. It's designed to be as indestructible as possible. Not shiny and flash to attract consumers' eyes like a new smartphone that has to be replaced as soon as you drop it on the floor and finally in aliens there's no instantaneous warp travel or teleporters to beam people down to the surface to go long distances the crew has to go into hibernation while the ship runs on autopilot for months or even years if you're going to trust your fate to being awoken by your ship after years of sleep you're going to want to make sure it's built to endure more than just having all the fancy bells and whistles and old proven technology is going to be more used more than new finicky

devices if my life depends on it i'm going to trust a monochrome crt display before i tie my fate to a bluetooth what do you got to say i'm just saying that modern tractors which you would probably say were consumer uh but in reality they're probably used a lot by government um agencies why are um tractors you can't fix them anymore uh you'd have to be fixed by whoever made them they're kind of locked out their software locked out you've got to have someone who hacks into the mainframe on your tractor tractor for crying out loud so i think that sort of obsolescence is kind of creeping in to, to,

to, to business machinery, to big business machinery. Yeah. Similar to my car though. I remember I took my car for a service last, the guy just plugged a laptop into it. Yeah.

Just did diagnostics. Yeah. Back in the day, you know, back in the day I would pop the hood and not know what I was looking at. Now I can't even pop the hood. I checked some oil in it oil in a car recently. What do you think of J.W. Muller's take on this, though, Peter?

You're a man who's more than au fait with modern technology. How do you feel about it? I completely agree. But we've talked about this before, like space shuttles and stuff. All of these machines were built. And as soon as you start building one, you know, space shuttles and stuff, all of these, all of these machines were built. So, and as soon as you start building one, you've got to begin work on a machine. That's not going to pay for another 20 years.

These things take a long time and they've got to be tested and tested and tested. I don't know if I've ever mentioned this before, but if I have, I'm going to mention it again because it's something I genuinely thought of originally. And you don't really get many of those things in my life. So,

um, I was thinking that if you took a, um, a space, space shuttle, right, and you said, okay, you're going to sail or fly, whatever it is, the space shuttle to somewhere, which is going to take you 100 years to get there, right? So you develop the technology, you take off, and you go, and 100 years later, you're going to get there.

What happens if in 30 years' time, they develop the technology, you take off and you go, and 100 years later you're going to get there. What happens if in 30 years' time they develop some technology that's so much faster and so much better that it can get there in 10 years and it just overtakes the people who are already on their way? Well, you'd be annoyed, wouldn't you? Bloody annoyed. It's almost like a paradox, though, because you need to develop the first bit of technology to get to the second bit. Yeah, stand on the shoulder of giants, isn't it?

But I would say that's why I don't trust the Teslas and the Richard Bransons of this world to get to the second bit yeah stand on the shoulder giants in it but i would say that's why i don't trust the teslas and and the and the richard branson's of this world to get us to space because they're all about the new and the shiny and the and then oh look at the car looks a bit different to the old car put a chip in a pig's brain what would the pig then do i don't know ask to ask um what his name is um.W. Muller who's Tesla Elon Musk ask Elon Musk he's put a he's put a chip in a pig and

and I've read I've read the headline of that but I didn't read the article what's the what's the basis of this why is he doing this he's making a sex doll for the ex-prime minister

of Britain speaking of why are you doing this his wife says that to him a lot why are you doing this why are you doing this I I reckon his wife says that to him a lot. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? I mean, she is Chavertius.

I mean, is it Chavertius? No, no, it's Grimes, isn't it? He's my auntie. Grimes. Yeah, just Grimes.

Grimes, yeah. Anyway, Pete, have you got an email? I got an email. Hello to Shriram. Greetings, Mrs. Luke and Pete. I've been meaning to write in

regarding this for a while, but life has been getting in the way. Welcome to our world. Yeah. A few weeks ago, there was a discussion on the podcast regarding the difference in length of TV shows in the UK and the US, with the general consensus being that the US shows

have a ridiculous number of episodes per season. Well, welcome to India, my friends. I wish I was in India right now. It'd be blamming warm and nice, I reckon. In India, the shows. I wish I was in India right now. It'd be blimmin' warm and nice, I reckon. In India, the shows run daily, not weekly, plus there are no concepts of seasons or series over here. This leads to shows having mind-boggling numbers of episodes,

routinely running into thousands. A quick Wikipedia search informs me that the five longest currently running soap operas have, whoa, over 3,000, 2,000, 2,000, 2,000 000 and 2 000 episodes each i think you can guess at the quality of writing and production from the aforementioned stupendous numbers keep good work and keep out keep pumping out those pods sharam we're very much like the uh

the indian um um um shop shows aren't they we're a little bit like the soap operas but we have that we have like eastendersbours and all those ones don't we I was going to say that I mean you can name check and talk a bit about how many episodes so and so has all your life

but do you want to know how many episodes Coronation Street's been through erm I think it'll be 4,000 10,107 woah

that's holy moly it first aired on the 9th of December 1960. It's been going for 60 years. In the same way that a lot of old television, they used to just get rid of the masters and we'd never hear of them again. I fear that those numbers aren't even right.

I bet they just lost a couple along the way. Well, do you remember when EastEnders went for that big crisis because of the advent of HDTV and they basically had to spend a load of money updating all their sets? Oh, what? Because everything looked a bit shit? Yeah. Fantastic.

One thing that's interesting about Coronation Street which first, and it'd be interesting if any listeners have got a take on this. When I lived in New Zealand, I used to play for a football team and as much as I was saying earlier, all my social life really revolved around that football team and we'd go out for drinks and all the rest of it.

And one of the guys I played with, his girlfriend said that when she heard me speak, it really reminded her of Coronation Street. And I was thinking, Oh, right. But how can it? Because Coronation Street is set in Manchester and I don't speak anything

like I'm from Manchester, but to her, it sounded the same. Incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Just general English man. Yeah. i come from manchester but but to her it sounded the same incredible yeah yeah just general english man yeah i wonder if i wonder if people from other countries can actually detect local action because i can definitely tell the difference between my wife's accent and my sister-in-law's accent

uh who is from alabama they sound completely different yeah that's fair um speaking of like long-running tv shows isn't it like don, don't the Mexican telenovelas, don't they have, they don't actually ever learn the lines. They just have earpieces in, and they just get fed the lines. Oh, that's wicked. That's awesome. How cool is that? Yeah, that's what happens.

Have you heard the story about, it's a film. I think it was The Ghost in the Darkness. Have you heard that? Heard of that movie? Is it, what's his name? A few people have had this. It wasn't Johnny Depp accused of that in his? Heard of that movie? Is it, is it what's his name? A few people have had this. It wasn't, it wasn't Johnny Depp accused of that in his Amber Heard case.

Oh, right. I'm not sure. Oh, no, do you know what it was? It wasn't the ghost in the darkness. It was the Island of Dr.

Moreau, right? Same year, different movie. The Island of Dr. Moreau is, it's based on an HG Wells novel, I think.

And it's, it's about, it's about, I haven't actually seen it for years, but I'm fairly certain it's about this scientist who tries to- That's the animals. Yeah, hybrid animals with human beings and stuff, right? And it's got Marlon Brando in it, right? Yeah. So Marlon Brando's in it.

And it's the mid-90s, so Marlon Brando's long since given up the ghost by this point. He didn't give a shit, right? And he's like, anything anyone ever asks of him, he's like, fuck you, I'm Marlon Brando. I'll just do what I want. He signs on to this movie, and the story goes that he turns up to the set, and he's not read a single word of the script and has no idea what it's about

but he's all he's all he's been like he's been slated as being in the shit in the movie and it's all part of the press and it's not that and so what they actually end up doing is giving him an earpiece and just giving him the lines to read imagine that i mean i don't care how good your um shielding is um on your earpiece you're gonna be a hair that eventually yeah it turned a profit to be fair so yeah i just part of me just it's just a bit sad that that is that is like um how the mighty have fallen you know no look if you've got that pulling power just it. You can just get more films done that way. Why bother learning your lines?

Fuck it. Just, you know what? I'll go in the scene. You just move my lips in post. You just do a, do a deep fake on my face and just move my mouth, move around. Actors won't even need to be there at all.

No, exactly. Eddie Murphy's got about 10 doubles. He bet he's barely on set for anything. Apparently, who's that, sorry? Eddie Murphy. Oh, really? If you ever see the back or the side of his face,

he's got these blokes who can really pass for him, like incredible lookalikes. That's crazy, isn't it? What a level of fame that is. Apparently, I was just reading up on The Island of Dr dr morrow apparently sadly halfway through the shoot um marlon brando's daughter committed suicide and so they had he couldn't continue filming these scenes he had to fly back to where he was living and they had to completely re um reshape the movie but but the thing is obviously that is really really desperately sad and and, really upsetting. But, you know, in Apocalypse Now, when Marlon Brando plays Colonel Kurtz,

the mad colonel who's gone up the river, up the Mekong, and gone off piste, to say the least. You know, I mean, I've seen interviews with Francis Ford Coppola where he says, like, or someone, maybe not even him, but someone associated with the movie, saying that, like, you know, Marlon Brando was told, and he knew full well that he was playing an army colonel in the middle of a war, and when he turned up,

he was about 400 pounds. They couldn't film him. They had to film him in the dark from the neck up. So if you watched a movie, his body isn't in the movie because he's too fat. Yeah, I like it. I've got a lot of time for that. Power.

But he's still brilliant, isn't he? He's still a brilliant movie. Yeah. Anyway, that's about enough for a bank holiday, isn't it? I think it is. We'll be back on Thursday as usual. No rest for us wicked guys. Yeah, we'll be back very soon and we'll

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