The Luke and Pete Show - Chess and Chest Presses

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

Welcome, intrepid podcast traveller - good to have you with us. Let Pete regale you with tales of a near-death experience involving a 25-minute walk, getting a blister while dodging a man carrying a s...lab of MDF, and fancifully thinking about taking up boxing. We've all been there.Elsewhere, Luke continues to beat Pete at chess and will not let him forget it. Plus, retro video games we'll never finish, debating whether Pete Hegseth's bench press is impressive and Luke witnessing a catastrophically cringe question asked in front of a thousand people. Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 It's the Luca Beacho. I'm Pete Donelson. I'm joined by Mr. Lucci Moore. I've got an hour on my foot. I walk from French Church Street to just past Old Street. And it only took me like 25 minutes. And the last time I did it, it took an hour and five. So I think I've gotten better at directions, you know? Yeah, okay. And I was walking. How far apart are they? They're a fair distance. They're a fair distance. It's a half a walk, isn't it? So, half hour walk. I locked off five minutes.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I was very impressed by a man who was clearly a man with a bigger boy job who was walking down the street with some MDF. And instead of saying, get out of the way and get off your phone, like, this is a pavement. And I'm trying to transport massive lumps of MDF down the road. He just did this.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Like that. And I went, And I sort of went, that's nice. That's old school. Yeah, proper like Hugh Granite. I'm sorry, like sort of bimbled my way out there
Starting point is 00:01:03 out of his thing. Like that? It was like, yeah, it was a proper like, but it was like loud. And he just had the confidence to do it. And I was like, what a guy. What a man, what a mighty fine man, very into that vibe. What was the dimensions of the MDF? I mean, it was about the size of the pavement.
Starting point is 00:01:19 So no matter where I stood, really, I was in trouble. A plasterboard side. It was like end of level, you know that video game paper boy, that asymmetric game where you would go up the street, throwing papers at people's windows and stuff. Yeah, great. It would have been the end of the last hard. a street, you know, an obstacle
Starting point is 00:01:37 you just have to kind of get pixel perfect. It was like that, really. Wow, that's a really specific reference. I love Paperboy, and I always, I have sort of three games in my mind. Cruise for Copse, the Poirot-related graphic adventure from Delphine games, a French outfit.
Starting point is 00:01:57 They were saying people who made flashback in another world, I believe. Another one I remember, that was great. The other game is Jet Set Willie, the Thatcher era platformer from the 8-bit era. I remember that well, yeah, along with Manick Minor. And also Paperboy. Those three games, I promised to myself as an old gentleman
Starting point is 00:02:15 that I would finish them one day. But I'm definitely never going to finish JetZat. Willie, cruise for a corpse, I'll revisit every six months. But Paperboy, I put on my arcade machine. And good God, it was and continues to be bloody impossible. Yeah, was Manic Minor related to Jet. set at a willie. He was same guy.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Yeah, it was minor, Willie. It was, manic minor was the first one, and I think discussed on this show. Second one was minor in a Thatcher fever dream. The miner had become so rich, because they didn't close down the mine,
Starting point is 00:02:51 so he became so rich and loaded. He was able to buy himself into the aristocracy, and that's why he had a big massive house and filled with cocktails and, you know, people having a good time. Yeah. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I think Jet Set Willie might have been from a different platform because I had Manic Minor and I used to play it all the time. It would have been on the BBC Micro. It would have been on the micro eventually. But yeah, just seeing a game that had something like 100 screens, like Jet Set Willie. It was absolutely wild how big that place was. I told you about the best game ever of that era.
Starting point is 00:03:24 That was exile. That's right, exile. Was that the one, the caveman or I'm thinking of something else, aren't it? Yeah, it's where you were in a different planet and you had to get back home. That's right, yes. I showed you a link to it, and you were absolutely blown away by the physics on the...
Starting point is 00:03:38 I know. Somebody was... There was a lot of love for your review of exile. I mean, it lasted most of the episode, and I appreciate it. I was obsessed with it. There's a playthrough on YouTube, which is so good,
Starting point is 00:03:50 because it basically completed a kind of empty part of my brain that I can never get past. But the physics on it are mind-blown for the era. Video games are like a... It's like an unfreeing. finish song, isn't it? If you don't finish one, you just feel like it's for a little while, you're just like, uh, but as you get older, you sort of rationalise and sort of go, what you're doing? Just move on to something else.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Yeah, I can remember, I can remember, I can remember finishing Super Mario world about five years ago. Right. And thinking, I'm not sure I should be as good at this, because it's supposed to still about reactions and I'm old now. But, um, like, when I'm playing PubG, I haven't played for months actually but when I used to play PubG I was regularly under the impression that I was getting killed because they're younger people with better reactions than me and and like Super Mario well completing that like when I was 40 or whatever I thought that's not bad because I mean young people are better at video games because they I mean the professional gamers are all young right yeah and you probably played it on a thing that had a little bit of
Starting point is 00:04:48 latency in there as well so the you know the actual you you press the joystick left and the little Mario creature character, fella, avatar, doesn't move left until a couple of microseconds, milliseconds. I don't think you can call Mario a creature. He's a plumber. I call all Italian matures. He's the famous Italian farmer in the world. The little creatures who live in the big boat.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Those guys, yeah, exactly. So what part of the foot is your blister on? It's on the base of my foot. I had to have a sit down because I felt dizzy because I'm bored for two. What the fuck? Bad, in it? That is bad. Yeah, well, a 25 minute walk and you have to sit down.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah, but I'd only had a, I'd had a small apple. And it was like half 11. Oh, that's what you've had? I'd had a small apple I'd stolen from our A-Cast's breakfast bar and also like a little sort of lollipop. And I was sucking on that. I was sucking on that all morning. So you actually felt faint because you walked 25 minutes.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yes, I went to do it to and bought a very Japanese bowl of, uh, sliced up mango no was that because about four quid did it felt better yeah felt better yeah felt better is the blister related to the man with mdf or is that a completely separate issue what do you reckon like as i shifted to the left the little the skin started slipping you don't normally use exactly um uh lukey you're not a uh super mario brother anymore you're a chess uncle now i am i give you a good beating the other day you did give me a good beating the other day the problem is you so we we i started playing chess on chess.
Starting point is 00:06:23 on chess.com. For those of you want to add me, my name is my... Oh, that's why I couldn't find you. I was on chest.com and I had a great time with my bishop
Starting point is 00:06:32 on test.com. Yeah, I bet you did. Can I see the queen, please? Can I see the queen? Get your rooks out. For the lads? For the lads? Well, for one lad.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Just one. Just this lad. I set up on chess.com. I always knew how to play chess and then a few weeks ago my niece is really into it she's like 11 and
Starting point is 00:07:00 or she'll be 11 this year and so played her a couple of times I quite like this this is a good fun it's got a good strategy and stuff we talked about it before didn't me yeah but since we talked about it
Starting point is 00:07:09 on the last episode you and I have locked horns yeah you you didn't even have the concentration to maintain a 10 minute game you said I'll play you a 10 minute game at half time in the Newcastle game
Starting point is 00:07:22 started trying to do. Quite clearly, even though I was on the other end of an interface, I could see how quickly you'd lost interest. And you kept WhatsApp at me during the game. I just, because we tried a three-day air where you just got to get all your shit done in three days. We're still doing that. It's your move. I'm still waiting for you.
Starting point is 00:07:44 At a time of recording, I'll tell you how much longer you've got left to make you move. You haven't got, yeah. Right, we have got, you have got, mate, at the time of recording, you're. You've got five hours to make you move. Oh, my goodness. Oh, you're going to lose? Okay, right. But I find...
Starting point is 00:07:59 I think it's one of those... Chess is one of those games where you can get to a certain point just by knowing the rules. And, you know, your simple kind of, you know, the old rook swap with the king, milarchy and the queen. Castle your king, yeah, yeah. Getting a new queen and if you get a pawn up the top. So you can get by that. But then after a certain point, it is just remember. famous
Starting point is 00:08:24 gambits, isn't it? I don't know any of that. So I don't know how to do it. I can do the openings. I can do the casting of the king. I can sense an opportunity here or there. The thing that keeps making me lose is I keep having quite momentary lapses
Starting point is 00:08:42 of concentration and playing a move and not realising if I play that move I'm going to get fucked. And then I just inevitably get fucked. Right. I mean, that is Chester, isn't it? Not realizing you're about to get fucked.
Starting point is 00:08:55 No, but I didn't realize there were loads of strategies and gambits that you're supposed to employ. So most, you know, above kind of regional concern, like levels are just remembering maneuvers that either you've done before or other people have done before. It's like, like, my mate Al, he's really good. But he's really good because he watches YouTube influencers talking about fucking chess all day. Do you know what I mean? It's like, it's absolutely. I don't know how you managed to
Starting point is 00:09:23 his vet must be pretty good but yeah he just watches YouTube influences and plays chess my review feature on chess.com right it just always says stuff like nice a nice Scandinavian move all right I didn't even though I was doing that literally didn't even though I did it
Starting point is 00:09:39 you have a bit of dill in your pocket but yeah but it's good that I from the off can maintain my 100% record at beating you at things right okay it's not a percent is it because I'm fairly certain I've beaten you in and I did not need a vibrating dildo at the bum to tell me to tell me what move not to me.
Starting point is 00:09:59 We played darts at Flight Club and there's about 15 of us. And what you mean by the way? No, no, no, no. Well, I beat you there and I also beat you at an aircast party as well. Welcome Euros party. So I mean, look, I'm just the... I can't even remember that. I mean, I'm sure you're right.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And then swing the ring onto the wall, the little ring game. We had a game of that as well. Why are you holding on to these things? It's all I've got. I'm like a, I'm like a, that woman out of Titanic on that door. That's all I've got. What, you put your hand on the glass?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Put your hand on the glass, yeah. Oh, you mean you're not letting me as Leonardo de Capra get on the door to survive? Somebody said that they were at a party where Winslet was getting, can we do this? No, fuck it. Let's not do it. After my telling off last time.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Tell me later. A hand at the window was seen That's all I'm saying Well you have just done it then I've just done it then Yeah I don't think I all care So you know people
Starting point is 00:10:59 Are at parties with Kate Winslet Yeah it was a long time ago I can't even remember who that is I remember them telling me Don't tell anyone Oh good Oh good Excellent
Starting point is 00:11:07 Good Right What are we doing It's the look of pitch I'm bad at chess Luke's good at chess No but do you I want to ask you a question
Starting point is 00:11:14 Luke's playing golf Luke's playing chess What is this all about You've got to ask yourselves Yeah, I'd like to know So if I want to tell me, that'd be great I'm actually desperately to get out and play golf
Starting point is 00:11:24 because the sun's out I'm a half of the sun's out It's a real golfy day All right, well this is been the Luca Picchu Yeah I wanted to ask you Whether you
Starting point is 00:11:33 You get frustrated That you'll never get better At anything Because you haven't got any concentration Uh I'll tell you what I tell you what Who's quite a good
Starting point is 00:11:42 motivator So I've never sort of got involved With like personal training or anything like that But I tell you what's a good motivator A fucking dualingo, bud. Oh, you're doing that?
Starting point is 00:11:52 He's really creepy and strange. Like, I'm only doing that because I started Japanese at beginning level and I just know it all. So it's just go bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And I'm just through. And, but if you, so I've got like a 21-day streak, but it's all just like fucking how to say sushi, sushi, how to say rice, you know, gohan.
Starting point is 00:12:13 What? How do you say rice? Gohan. So you're sticking at that then? I'm sticking at that because of the, Every afternoon, the duolingo bird will give me an email and sort of go, you're not doing a Japanese lesson, Pete? Interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Basically, he does, you know, like Chicorito, Little P? I watch you quite have a lot of these weird little fucking men's rights activists. He's a strange character these days. Well, the thing that gets me is he doesn't know or realize that when he goes on his massive anti-women misogynistic diatribes, that, you know, he's the fucking alpha big dog in his house. that the meta-automated translator makes him sound very camp. He's like, oh, hi.
Starting point is 00:12:58 The thing about men is, it's like, you're mate, you are being mugged off royally here. It's like that bloke who does the gay guy does those lip-sink camp impressions of Donald Trump. Yes, yes. Oh, he's brilliant, him, yeah. Yeah, he makes him look so gay, brilliant. But then Trump is really camp. I think there's a campness.
Starting point is 00:13:18 All super villains. Isn't there? There's a camp list of all super villains. Yeah. But if you look at, say, the best Bond villains, their camp. Yeah. Adolf Hitler's camp. Any, all Nazis were camp.
Starting point is 00:13:31 But all the successful ones, like, you know, Donald Trump probably wouldn't necessarily care, would you say, but J.D. Vance would and Cash Patel would, and all of those kind of men would. Do you know what I mean? And, and, and, uh... Yeah, of course they would.
Starting point is 00:13:46 All of those kind of guys. And because they kind of trade on that. and they can't, they haven't got very thick skin. So that's why, you know, that's why you see them doing workouts with the, with everybody that they see. Yeah, like, I was, I'm in a WhatsApp group with people, some people I don't know that well. It's for, um, football reasons, playing football.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Right, okay. You know, you're on a couple of those football groups where it's just bloke's doing really problematic things on the WhatsApp group and all you want to do is get to the Saturday and say, whether you're going to play or not. Yeah, exactly. It's why those, right? Yeah. The Toyota century group.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah, basically, you're like your Toyota century group or your... Yeah. You got a football one as well, haven't you? Got a couple of football ones as well. Yeah. No, don't play Lionsmen, thank you. I...
Starting point is 00:14:29 How many times have you been Lionsmen this season? I played a full 90 minutes for my over 50s football team. And yes, we might have started with 10 players. And yes, we might have got Horsed 8 too. Yes, we might have done all those things. And yes, you're only 44. Crucially here.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Over 50s. Disgraced, Donson. And yes, yes. I was in goal for some of those goals. And yes, I did punch the post in frustration in a very tepid fashion and now I have a bruiser of the line. But you didn't run the line? Didn't run the line, no.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Couldn't afford. We couldn't afford lines, people. We only had 10 and then nine players when the keeper out of it. How fault were you for the goals that you let in? One very... What happened? Two others very much not. It was a Casper Schmichael kind of goal.
Starting point is 00:15:15 You know, Cassius Schmichael final. Just thought I'd caught him. I thought it was going on to the floor so I could pick it up again but it just fell into the thing but I did have the foresight that in one fluid motion I did punch the post as hard as I could and now
Starting point is 00:15:28 I've hurt my hand but I tell you what though Luke did it work on something in me like a metal a membrane thin metal pole being punched with the protection of goalkeeping gloves I think I enjoyed that Luke boxing I think I think I should start boxing
Starting point is 00:15:45 getting to boxing I'd love that That'd be great. Is there a kind of boxing where I can punch and nobody can punch me? No. Is that one? A punch bag. Basically, buy a punch bag. Good.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I can, right, fine. I can go on a midlife crisis too. Get. You like that dance player, Cameron Menzies, who punched the table and he got knocked out of the World Championship. Yes. Did he say, did he just, yeah. Oh my God. Now apparently he can't fill two of his fingers.
Starting point is 00:16:10 He's a dance player. Brilliant. Absolutely fantastic. Absolutely love that. There's nothing better than a bit of fucking. well-aired instant toxic masculinity has been absolutely do absolutely do himself over
Starting point is 00:16:24 brilliant he said I'm struggling massively I felt like wrapping it in a few times I'm not in a good place I can't feel my I couldn't feel my fingers for six weeks and I've still got to go through plenty of hand treatment it's not as bad as it could have been but I mean not ideal is it
Starting point is 00:16:41 it's not ideal anyway so can I just finish this point about this website group sorry yes so because you talked about Pete Heggseth, right? Yes. And Pete Headseth is the Secretary of Defense. What?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Thank you. Or Secretary of War now, I was a very, very, again, very, very, quite, very camply changed it to. And he likes to not do his job and he likes to get pissed and he is entirely unsuited to the role. But the thing he thinks his job is, is to go and hang out with a load of squadies or, or special forces guys and just show them how much he can bench press, right? Yeah. and that's obviously pathetic for a number of different reasons. But on this WhatsApp group, there's a few of them debating
Starting point is 00:17:24 about whether what he was benching was actually an impressive weight or not. Right, okay. And I was like, I didn't say anything because I don't get involved, but I was thinking, I don't think that's the point here. I think the point here is that he is this most senior military figure in the United States and he is bench pressing to show off in a shirt and tie to a load of like enlisted men. They've fallen.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not really sure like, you know, when they're planning the D-Day landings, you know, Eisenhower or whoever, the Secretary of War was at the time is, you know, Supreme Allied commander, Dwight D. Eisenhower was talking about bench pressing with a load of the regimental lads. I think it's very, very misguided to worry about whether he's benching an impressive number or not. No. I think but it is impressive
Starting point is 00:18:16 now I want to know I don't really know he claimed 143 KGs I think that's probably quite good yeah that feels quite good wouldn't you sort of say that like that's why it's funny it's funny because it's
Starting point is 00:18:28 it's funny because he's making you know the the white house and you know the his sort of organisation is making a big deal about he you know how much he can you know how physically demanding his
Starting point is 00:18:41 his routine is his workout routine that is not his actual job he doesn't do that a lot but him working out it is quite funny that it's not actually that impressive do you know what I mean yeah I don't think any of it's impressive
Starting point is 00:18:55 no it's absolutely tragic I think anyone who you know I don't understand why like for example you know if because we're talking about golf say you're a better golfer than me right
Starting point is 00:19:07 it's not really the thing to just spend all your time showing off but how good you were at golf. It's like the whole point of golf is you have handicapped system so you can play with each other and have a good time and it can be worked out and the whole point is about camera audering and having fun. I don't understand why in weightlifting it's about who you can lift him out. And I think if you went to the gym with some normal people, they would be very supportive of you however much you can lift. So I don't know why this is suddenly like a big show-off thing.
Starting point is 00:19:33 But most you always know find someone who's stronger than you, right? What's the point? And most kind of weightlifters are just kind of like, I think they are quite supportive. You know, everyone's good being in that journey. Yeah, sure, but I'm saying Hexedith is just trying to show up, isn't it? He's using weights to show up. He's the worst kind of man. It'll be the worst kind of drinker.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It'll be the worst kind of workerouty. Do you know what I mean? They're all the worst examples of everything, aren't they? They are all just the worst examples and everything that they complained about the majesty. It makes sense because he's got a three massive paragraph section about abuse and sexual assault allegations on his Wikipedia page.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Okay. Yeah, you can't scrub those. His own mother emailed him saying, You are an abuser of women. That is the ugly truth. And I have no respect for any man that belittles lies, cheeks sleeps around, uses women for his own power and ego.
Starting point is 00:20:20 You are that man. That's his mum saying that. That is, I mean, that is strong in it. That is, that's as bad as it gets, isn't it? I mean, it really is. His own mum. Well, the thing that always gets me is a lot of people in these positions
Starting point is 00:20:34 are invariably lawyers. Like, J.D. Vance was a lawyer. And they don't, and they don't, And they're all... Ted Cruz as well. Harvard. Yeah, take cruise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:44 All of these people, they don't seem to have... They don't seem to be the most bright... The brightest sparks, really, do they? I just don't know how they money... I think a lot of it's about money, though. A lot of it's about having the wedge. But you've still got to learn. A lot of, like, you know, lawyering is a memory game
Starting point is 00:21:02 and working connections and stuff to get your roles and stuff. But, like, I just feel like, are they giving away these bar exams too easy? I just feel like a lot of the people, a lot of the people, even like most like Fox News contributors, most Fox News hosts and stuff, were ex-lawyers or ex, you know, pretty high up like financiers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Everyone seems to be a lawyer in the US. Is this too easy? Yeah. I'd love, you'd be a great lawyer, Donison. I would like to declare to the court. It's not your talk the court. I would like to declare the court that I have forgotten all of my notes
Starting point is 00:21:36 and my security pass. You'd be like, you'd be like Hugh Lorry's character. character of Blackadder goes forth where he's defending Blackadder for killing the pigeon. I would like to say, declare that he's got his piece of paper. Edward Blackadder is guilty of nothing more. He turns the page over. That's quality.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Would you be a bumbling lawyer? Yeah, but the thing about bumbling lawyers is, you know, they'll get there in the end. Do you know what I mean? They'll turn it around. I don't think it works like that. I don't think the broke sitting rotting in a prison set in is saying that. Bumbling lawyers use their bumbliness to... Oh, so you mean it's a ruse?
Starting point is 00:22:20 It's a bit of a ruse and then they turn things around. They're not as daft as you think they are, but I am exactly as daft as you think. Oh, right. So people would be expecting you to be the bumbling lawyer. And at the end, just before he's about to divert it, you go, oh, sorry, just one more thing. It's like when I ask a question in a meeting and people expect there to be an ending to the sentence, but I just keep going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And it's just, and it never ends. So it's just, there's the bumbling does have an end because one must breathe, but the bumbling does not have a point. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:52 It's bumbling for bumbling sake. A bit like that. I'm a filibusterer. Yeah, that's nice. But I like the idea of you bumbling you away through a court case. You're defending someone
Starting point is 00:23:02 who's accused of a capital crime. It's all going really badly. Yeah. And then they're about to go, oh, God, he's fucked it. And then you go, oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And just one. more thing and people think, oh, he's going to turn it around. And it's a sharp intake of breath and you just go, is this milk off? It's just like smelling like your coffee. Is this milk? I would like to declare my defendant is a secret homosexual. Sorry, what am I doing?
Starting point is 00:23:27 I just out. I would just out your defendant. Yes, I think I did. Sorry, bye. But Norm MacDonald with Larry King. Oh my God. It's so good. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I would like to declare, I think I've missed my bus. Can you just do the verdict? The Norm MacDonald Larry King sort of interviews and stuff. They've obviously did quite lots of stuff together. But the best thing about Norm MacDonald is he has no, he's always smirking, so it's very disarm. You never know he's been serious or not. You never know when he's been serious or not.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And he treats people like Larry King. Larry King's not a funny person. And it just goes to shore, presenters don't need that in their locker. to have an incredibly successful career. But he just does Larry King. And Larry King doesn't know where to go. He doesn't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:24:18 He doesn't understand. It's great. Love it. I do love the idea of you as a Bamboree lawyer. I have to say, I think it'd be amazing. In a different timeline, I can definitely see that happen. The best Larry King moment is when he interviews that guy,
Starting point is 00:24:33 that actor, that voice actor, and he asks him what his luxury is. Have you seen that? Yes. What's your luxury item? He goes, I like a nice pro sock. I'll bed out of Parks and Rec.
Starting point is 00:24:45 No, the other one. The other one. And he goes, community in community. Community. I always got us too mixed up. And he said,
Starting point is 00:24:53 the parasok isn't a luxury item. It's like, you know, a private plane or, you know, and he goes, Larry, I'm on duck tails. She's like Larry King
Starting point is 00:25:03 me is so out of time. All right, let's be a break. When we come back, I want to talk to you about a live podcast record and I went to, Just last night.
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Starting point is 00:25:27 Luke, you've been to a live podcast recording. Yeah, I'm going to. Let me guess which one it was. You know which one it was because I put it in the notes. Did you? Have you read it or not? I've not looked at it. Don't look at it.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Don't look at it. That's fine. You're trying to guess. All right. All right. Palladium. Was it the one? That's anyone now.
Starting point is 00:25:45 It is. I was surprised. These guys are doing three nights at the Palladium. This again, they were doing three nights. They are doing three nights at the pladium. They went to the first one last night. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Because these guys, see, that's a, I thought it might be that spot. I use guys as like entirely gender neutral, though. Yeah, yeah. Which probably un-PC these days, I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I'm increasingly accidentally calling him on Darlane, and I don't mean to. You've been in there for years, though. I think it's part of your camp expectations. I've been in here, though. I think it's Essex. I never used to say, darling. It's a pet lamb, which is even worse. No, yeah, but I just call everyone, darling, and every time I say it, woman, I'm like, oh, fuck, that you said it again.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I'll fix it. I'll fix it one day. Yes. Where were we? Was it the ghost one? The BBC. who wears like a waterproof all of time and so... No, I don't like that guy.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Soft boy. Not mine. Is it? Really? Is John like that? Uncanny? Is it called uncanny? No, yeah, John likes that.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Not me. Right, okay. Right. You have another guess? Or is that as much infused as much you got? Was it... That's not how guessing games work. You don't just have one guest, then give up.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It wasn't the Chinese man. No. What do you mean by that? The Boschman. No, obviously not. The man who orders... Chinese is. What are to go to that?
Starting point is 00:27:07 What would he do? What would he do? But just order... Well, it's near Chinatown. March on down at Chinatown. He comes back, lays it out on the last supper on his table, and says, who wants prawn crackers? That does sound quite good, to be fair, but that wasn't him? Bosh. Abosh.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Bosh. I'm out, I'm out. It was talking sopranos. Oh, I see. Yes, that's been gone for a long time, hasn't it, that one? So Christopher Maltesanti and Bobby Bowie. I'm talking Sopranos. Right. So they're in the Sopranos, aren't they? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:42 So they're better place than most. Correct. I could see why they could do three nights now. Yeah, I was kind of, it was quite good. It's quite formulaic. Well, did you go to all three nights? No, no, but you could tell, maybe because I've got inside information about these kind of things
Starting point is 00:28:01 and how they work, it was, there was a host as well who would just ask them questions. that they'd obviously asked him every night. Yeah. And they would deliver answers. And then the second part of it was a Q&A from the crowd, which was totally unfiltered. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Which was tricky. What was the more esoteric questions? Well, the best question, right? The best question, and I promise you this fucking happened. It was a very first question, right? So Michael Imperioli, who plays Christopher Maltesanti, is a great actor in my view. He's a fucking legend.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He is not just Christopher in Sopranos. He is in The White Lotus. He's in a load of other stuff. And possibly most famously, his breakthrough role was a kind of extended, very memorable cameo in the film Goodfellers, right? Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:59 He plays a minor character called Spider who gets shot by Joe Pesci's character. in a completely unnecessary kind of argument that goes wrong. But it's a situation. Have you seen good for those? You probably don't remember it, do you? Long time ago. So basically, yeah, Pesci plays Tommy thingy.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I can't remember his surname. Who is mad, but a senior figure. And Spires just this barman, the young barman. And he gives a bit of lip back to Joe Pesci, and Joe Pesci shoots him, kills him. And De Niro's character and Liotta's character, who's that Jimmy Conway and Henry Hill, they are like, what are you fucking doing?
Starting point is 00:29:36 What are you fucking do it? this is just admin for us kind of thing. It's that type of scene. It's quite a memorable scene. And Christopher Malta said, sorry, Michael Imperioly told the story that when he shot that with Scorsesee, the prop guy forgot to put a fake glass in his hand.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So when he gets shot and the blood bags spurt everywhere, what they call them, there's a word for them, the blood bags in under their shirts. Oh, those are just squibs or something? Squibs or something like that. Yeah, someone like that.
Starting point is 00:30:05 They bust open, obviously. and he falls back into the bar and he's supposed to smash the glass but the prop guy gave him a real glass and he smashed the glass and he cut his fingers open and so they had to reshoot it a couple times but anyway they ended up using the original so authentic yeah anyway so that's the background that was a very long-winded build-ups I'm sorry about that but anyway so the guy who steps up
Starting point is 00:30:26 and asks the question the host to compare guy says please make sure you've got a question about the sopranos and you ask it to both actors basically because Imperiali is much more famous so like it would have just been left Steve Sheripper would have been just left out the first guy says Hi I've got a question here for Michael
Starting point is 00:30:46 Can you please Can I be Joe Pesci And you be you And can we do the scene Where you get shot by me And you can tell me to go and get your fucking shine box Or something like that And it was so cringe
Starting point is 00:31:04 And it was made even more awkward by Michael Imperiali saying in response like straight away no joke what the fuck are you talking about he goes he goes would you think I am a fucking jukebox no I don't fucking do that
Starting point is 00:31:18 right now which I'm reading everyone she hid it that's basically your character on stage at the Palladium that's basically your stuff and he's much more cool than me mate trust me oh my god that's fantastic but the guy
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't know if the guy was like nerds man they just He was nerdy. I don't know if he was like neurodiverse or whatever, but he obviously had like no self-awareness. And that's the problem with like unfiltered Q&A. It's just bloke. It's just people taking it way too seriously,
Starting point is 00:31:47 cue and up to ask questions and having no understanding of, of like the environment they're in. It was a lad, one of those kind of fellas who has a belly that sort of pops over. And, you know, like a sort of little, like in like a beat at the front of a V. W. Beatle, that kind of thing, over the front of their
Starting point is 00:32:07 trousers or something. And he's sat on a chair and he's and he's been interviewed about what he likes about wrestling and he's like, I love wrestling because I, um, I don't like modern wrestling because they don't have bra and panties matches.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I would like to see Rea Ripley in a bra and panties match. I would like to say, blah, there, there, bed, and you're like, oh God. Well, he's doing that live in the auditorium? No, he was just, he was getting an interview for some bollocks and it's been floating around and you're like there are
Starting point is 00:32:37 you've got to remember there are people are out there who just think this this is okay and it's and and I do think I don't know man I just but like imagine going up to your favourite actor and saying to him oh can you just do
Starting point is 00:32:52 those lines for me and I can film it I've never like I was a big fan of the foothai first couple of albums brilliant thought you know thoughts kind of do think Dave Groles, all right.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I like him, I like the few guys, yeah. And, and, you know, I think he sort of did things the right way and stuff, till he fired Josh Freeze, obviously, but still, still, still good. But, and I met him once, and I didn't, he wouldn't have known if I knew what his first name was. I stood next to Alan Shearer, didn't say a fucking word. I never want to bother the people I like. Do you know what I mean? It's just, I'm the same.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Oh, God. The other thing, the other thing, the other thing, the old Q&A, because it was fun showing everything. There's some great stories. And they're good, they're good,
Starting point is 00:33:40 they're good kind of, um, raconteurs and stuff. Um, and obviously it's a great show, which I love. So, um,
Starting point is 00:33:46 it was good to be there. But like, this one guy asked the question, right? But this is the thing. He got up onto the mic. He's in the crowd with, they give him the mic.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And he did about, I'm not joking, like a two minute monologue about why he liked the sopranos. And everyone to the point of people were just like starting to snigger. And then they got, the host have to say, okay,
Starting point is 00:34:04 what's your question? What's your question? That's it, yeah. He didn't, like, have a question. He just,
Starting point is 00:34:10 he just, he just said, oh, I remember when I first started watching it and I think this and I think that, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:15 it was just, it's crazy how our little self-awareness people have. At any point, did somebody get a papia mash your head out and dancing
Starting point is 00:34:23 on the stage? They did not, which is sad. No one brought anyone any pickled herrings either. No. Oh,
Starting point is 00:34:28 there's the Richard Key's head. It's great to see it out. That's great stuff. Let me take a photo before you put it away. Very nice. Very nice, mate. Should we get out of here and duck out until next time? That's ruined my Monday, that.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That has ruined my Monday, that. That's what I live for, mate. All right, then. We'll be back soon. See you later. See you on Thursday. Don't email us. The Luke and Pete Show is a stack production,
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