The Luke and Pete Show - Claude's Awful Drawing
Episode Date: June 29, 2026Luke recently enlisted Anthropic’s Claude to draw him a picture and the result was truly awful. He freely admits he’s a man out of time and doesn’t know how to use this stuff.Remaining on a simi...lar path, it’s time for a chat about the miserable phenomenon of AI-generated music and “art” more generally. Plus, which so-called stand-up comedian has got Pete’s dander up this fine Monday?Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com.The Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's a Lukey show Pete Donaldson with you joined by Mr. Lukie Mo.
Lukie Mo, how the devil are you doing?
I'll tell you, I'm doing it.
I'm nearly sure.
I've done some Japanese chewing gum I found in my back pocket this morning.
I clearly haven't washed these trousers since I got back from Japan.
And now I'm having some delicious green bar chewing gum.
It's exhilarating broadcasting with you as ever,
because I quite literally never know what you're going to say next.
The Luce and Pete show is hopefully quite infamous for that
but it is sincere. I genuinely never know
what the conversation is going to be. I never know what you're going to say.
I never know what you've been doing. Last time we
chatted, we talked quite a lot about us being little barrel boys, didn't we?
Little boys in barrels.
We're wearing barrels for clothes.
The trope back in the 80s and 90s if you were poor
and you had no money and you're destitute, you would just wear a barrel
as a shirt. And it's a measure of how
far society has fallen that I think
that barrels would probably be quite expensive these days
you wouldn't get a barrel from like an East London
Emporium yeah for like some kind of
you know decorative purpose in your home
I reckon you're paying north of a hundred quid
oh definitely and I walk down the street
and I see a bit of scrap wood
and that used to be like oh this this place has gone to the dogs
I'm like that's valuable I'm gonna put it in the car
do you know what I'm like
like anything puts dead bodies in the car
say again
I might you if it's the dead bodies of animals
That's right, yes, valuable, isn't it?
Good for fertiliser, you'd probably imagine.
Very good for...
That's not why he does it.
Is there any piece of wood that you wouldn't kind of commandeer?
Well, the problem is, Sammy in particular,
loves doing shits on anything that's slightly erased from the ground.
So if there's a bit of cardboard on the floor,
if there's a bit of wood, he'll have a go,
he'll balance his little tuckus, as the Americans might say,
and pop out a little brown
A brown trait
He'd balance his Derek
precariously on a lovely bit of decking wood
And he'd yeah
Just call one out and just go
Hey look at look it deserved its own stand
Yeah I like that he feels that that's a stage
To be performed upon
Well that's it
Dogs do that because they want other dogs
To see that they're a larger dog
Because they want to poo on higher and higher
Sort of platforms
So like the dogs will try and poo on like
step over just a floor. It's almost a bit like, you know, if you draw a circle on the floor in
chalk, a cat will go inside it and curl up into it. Oh, I like that. Nice. So they like to be
enclosed, but they'll even be confused by something drawn on the ground. They'll throw up
there inside something and therefore they're safer. Don't ants do that as well? I think ants might
do that as well. But that might just be, they're small enough to deal with carbon and chalk being
quite a, you know, like a little hill or something. Ants can solve problems together there,
can't they? They're pretty good. Yeah, clever little.
Probably one of the most
impressive.
I think it's probably
pretty poor form
to kill an ant.
Not if you've got
a massive infestation
like me.
I go wild with it.
Well, that's like Starlin said,
isn't it?
You know, one death
of the tragedy,
30,000 deaths
is a statistic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, he didn't execute
ever with boric acid,
but I mean,
I'm sure if you get enough
of it,
he would do.
A lovely born in water from
the kettle down the hole.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Is it poor form
to kill ants?
I think ants are important,
aren't they?
They are,
but if they're becoming a nuisance
and digging up the cement in your garden.
That's an annoyance that you, you know,
the ants can do that else.
The ants can do that elsewhere.
So I am.
I'm just saying present them with that option then.
Present them with that option.
My daughter absolutely loves ants.
And if she knew that I was in anywhere,
an ant murderer, she'd be very upset.
But she doesn't have to know that.
My list which has remained unchanged for,
I think over a decade now,
at least a decade, possibly even longer,
of the pests I will kill.
is,
always the same,
flies, mosquitoes and wasps.
Right, okay.
Everything else is,
will get put outside
in the respectful manner.
Yeah,
my list is
moths.
I think moths is unfair.
Ants if they're not,
ants if they're becoming destructive.
Ants if they're over a certain number.
An individual ants you're going to put outside.
A firm of ants.
You know,
you're getting the boric acid,
I'm afraid.
You're getting done.
You go,
you know what the collection.
I don't even know what.
even though what Boric acid is.
I think it's just a thing
that pops ants, I suppose.
I think it makes their body swell or something.
An army advance is the collective noun.
An army advance, of course, it is.
Colony is also accepted.
I just mentioned
Big Pav there earlier.
He, for some reason,
calls the arse, the Derek.
I don't know why. And the reason I know that
is because I've had many a time
playing football with him where he's wanted me to mark
a forward a bit more tightly. I want to
see you right up is Derek.
Right.
But that means, I mean, it depends on if you're facing goal or not, I suppose.
If you're shielding the ball, if you've taken a pass from the goalkeeper,
you want to be getting your Derek out.
Oh, no, yes, she's when I'm Mark.
It's not when I'm picking up the ball.
Right.
You want to be brave with your bunder.
When I asked him why he called it a Derek, he said it's because when they were kids,
they couldn't pronounce derrier properly.
Lovely stuff.
Why were they even trying to pronounce derrier?
Big Pap would look sensational when they're back.
bankruptcy barrel.
Yes, I think so.
Yeah.
Well, you, before the recording,
made an AI make a picture of me in a barrel.
It's rubbish.
You've managed to...
I'm a man out of time.
You are the only...
Even though, like, every man of our age
spends all of his time making everything in his life out of AI
from Five-Aide football team charts
to, you know, whatever.
They just spend all the time making AI
and causing the heat death of the world.
And you...
And you have managed to make, I think, the worst picture using AI that I have ever seen.
I don't know.
I'm living in the dark ages.
I don't know.
But it's almost charming.
You know, like people have a real problem with AI.
They have a real problem with AI.
But I think if they saw your work, they'd be like, you know what?
He's made something that is something so precious.
So precious and charming.
You know, you've got to know the rules to break the rules.
And you've absolutely.
astounded me with how poor
that picture of me in a barrel is.
But how have I done that?
Because I used Claude.
I mean, we have to share it for people to...
Yeah. I mean, what you've done...
I think almost...
I think how normal image generation,
it sort of combines a lot of images
until it gets to a point where it's, you know,
recognisable. Oh, I saw this one being drawn
in front of me. Yes. So I think
what Claude has done here, it's used a
vector approach to things. And it's basically
told the screen, right,
Draw a square with a circular kind of bottom and a shadow,
all from primitive objects.
So there's about, there's five or six circles there.
There's a curve, like a sort of structured curve they'd drawn there.
The arms are horrific, but they've made them out of three or four circles with some masking.
And so in many ways, it's actually more technically interesting that Claude's done that.
but it does look like the daubings of a three-year-old
I was unhappy with it
I have to say I kind of thought it would be one of those super
so on the way into the office in the morning
have you seen it you walk from Warren Street or no
I go Fenner's Fennettchett Street
I sometimes just cycle up to it from Fenture Street
On the walk from Warren Street before you get the Fitzroy Square
there's a kind of Indian cafe type place
Right there's loads around sort of
Houston sort of area as well.
Fucking lovely.
I've got an amazing AI-generated sandwich board outside their cafe.
It's so sad to see.
It's just like delicious curry dishes inside or something.
But the thing is, obviously, you prefer that to not be our AI generator,
but I guess for them it's, you know, it's a quick job and it's easier.
Yeah, but I was kind of hoping it'll be something like that,
but it isn't anything like that.
No, the thing about AI, it just always looks like it's got a lovely film of piss.
It's like the, it's like the PS3 is.
every game on the PS3 had this
piss filter on it from like Metal Gear Solid to everything
else
and to Resident Evil or stuff
and they all just had this sort of
you know like when they go to Mexico in a film
everything just gets covered in a yellow film
that looks like piss
every bit of AI just looks like piss
there's a quite a good
AI sort of
there's an AI policeman or AI kind of
Instagram account
that basically goes through a lot of like
bands are quite bad
it these days.
And especially bands who've probably got a bit of money behind them
and a record company behind them to put their festival appearances out on,
you know, using a proper graphic designer.
And yeah, it's, you know, I think everyone's sort of flirted with it.
And it's up for you to sort of choose how exposed you want to be
and how much you're kind of satisfied with it.
The new crazy taxi.
Do you know the Sega video game?
Yeah, I've seen that's back.
Crazy taxi, that's back.
That's huge generative AI.
And it's very interesting to see the Japanese,
developers, how they approach things compared to, and the Chinese
developers, Korean developers, actually, how they sort of, how they're
releasing games and they literally can't understand why the West are up in arms.
The Western sort of video game fans are up in arms about the use of generative AI because
it's just not thought of in the East.
Also, when it comes to the dining of video games, presumably a lot of the
process of it is automated anyway.
A lot of it is.
And I think the way that people use the generative AI is, I mean, they,
They sort of say that they use it in the drafting stage
where you know like how an artist
and most artists who may even be listening to this show
while they're daubing and painting their beautiful things.
They use artwork to influence them.
They use kind of like mood boards and stuff
and they use imagery from different places.
But AI just feels like one of those things
where it's just because it's on the backs of artists
and it's a very boring and done argument
it just feels like that kind of
shot cut is just unacceptable
for a lot of people
I think certainly on the art side of things
I think it'll probably
I think it'll probably settle down to about that
people will use it in development
but the actual creation
of the art and textures
may remain
it will still remain quite toxic
I wouldn't like to see
I wouldn't like to see
and this probably goes without saying
people who know me will know I think this already
but I wouldn't like see anything
that is artistic in nature
be generated by an artificial intelligence.
I think it's a complete category error.
There's a complete misidentification of what it actually is
because anything is artistic.
Is there a place for AI, art and judge it on its merits?
I think there's a place for it in processes
and in, you know, certain areas.
But in terms of, you know,
you think of the idea of an artificial intelligence
writing a song.
I mean, it's got absolutely no, by definition,
not because of my opinion of the song,
which may or may not be technically a good song.
To me,
the definition of it alone renders it completely obsolete to me
and my desire to want to listen to it.
Because ultimately,
every good piece of art that's worth the name
is built around the concept of the relationship
between the art,
the artist,
and the consumer of it.
So to me,
you know,
you can't,
this is going to sound pompous,
so forgive me, right?
But if you go to a gallery and you look at a painting,
you may or may not like that painting.
You may or may not connect with it.
You may not even understand it,
particularly some modern modern work.
But ultimately, if it's not for you, it's not for you.
But you can make that assessment knowing that another human being
is trying to communicate or to entertain you,
whatever you want to phrase it, with their art.
If there's no human at the start of it, it isn't art.
We may need to come up with a new category for it,
and it doesn't mean it's,
I personally think it's less valid and totally invalid,
but other people, other generations who come along after us
who feel differently about these things,
there may well be a place for it for them.
But for me, it's completely irrelevant.
I just don't know anything stopping people sort of saying,
like using generative musical, you know, creation,
using it and then just sort of going, right, I'll just cover it.
I'll build that song again by my own hand
and say that I came up with it.
Who's going to prove?
You know what I mean?
Like, who's going to be like, you know.
But that, though, even that, though, to me,
I get what you're saying that 100%.
But even that.
People will do it.
They just will.
Of course they will.
And I know they will.
And maybe in a lot of cases, people won't even know that's what happened, right?
So that creates its own problem.
And so I understand that.
But it's like, this does sound very analog,
a very old person.
I get it.
And I totally understand that.
And in some areas, you've got to just admit that you are who you are
and you're of the generation you are.
But what on earth?
I mean, just answer to me this.
admittedly quite cringy, pompous question.
You know,
why would you ever want to listen
to a love song
that's not written by a human being
who's experienced that emotion?
It doesn't make any...
I don't understand.
It's a genuine question.
I don't understand why you would get anything out of that.
I know, and I don't think you're ever going to get a satisfying answer
because the sort of people who would
sort of sling those answers at you
are lying to themselves.
Yeah.
And they're the sort of people who, you know,
to be honest,
probably don't like music anyway.
It's anti-music, it's anti-everything.
So what about if...
So what about if you...
You know that music you get in, say, hotels
or certain types of American supermarkets,
like music-type stuff.
Obviously, at some point in the past,
that had to be written by a human being, right?
And they were probably just a bit like,
oh, I've got to do this job.
You know, I've got...
No one wants to buy my fucking...
in my 90-minute-long saxophone concept album.
So I'm going to do this to make a bit of money.
That presumably will be generated artificially
from now, right?
Yeah.
So they'll lose the scant, you know, adverts and stuff like that.
They'll lose the scant kind of money they got from even creating that, you know, crap.
And that's the other thing, isn't it?
Like, you're also, I don't have you seen this as a slight tangent, but, and you probably
won't have seen it, but very quickly, because I think it has got a little bit of relevance.
It's the most recent season of Clarkson's farm.
A lot of it is about automated farming.
Right.
And I'm kind of curious just to see how it'll go down, because.
the premise that they create for it is that they
Clarkson is basically saying
farming doesn't work financially for anyone really now
and so we have to be honest about that
and look at how we can do it in a different way
and that's really the only premise that's been
laid out there and then he just goes and gets like an automated tractor
which is GPS accurate to within like five millimeters
and gets it to dig his field
cultivate his staff, plant his seeds
and no one has to be involved.
And I kind of feel like,
because I'm not a farmer, crucially, right?
I feel like, okay, that's probably, you know,
an amazing development technologically.
And there's no art element here.
So I guess that's kind of a positive development
for a lot of reasons.
But the other side of that is like,
well, you've got to find something to do with these farmers,
the same way we had to find something to do with the miners
when we stopped doing mining and we didn't
and everyone got fucked over.
Yeah.
What's the kind of following, what's the follow up to this?
And I wonder how that's going to be received
because Clarkson, of course, has taken a huge amount of credit
and in many cases, rightly.
So for his support of farming in Britain generally,
yet he's flipped it in some way with this by saying,
well, you don't need to do it now.
And his little kind of sidekick is like, well,
I don't really understand this because I like like driving tractors.
So why are you, I've always driven tractors?
It's like my job, so why are you fucking doing this?
So it's quite interesting how that will be received as well.
Well, especially because, I mean, I guess the problem with Clarkson is I, you know, we all know why he got into owning a farm.
So it's kind of like, I don't necessarily think he's the most, he's obviously a very famous farmer now.
And he's obviously a mouthpiece for, you know, a generation of farmers.
But it is kind of like, I don't necessarily trust him as being a reliable narrator about what's, you know, the, he can talk about the struggles and how farming does.
I do agree with that.
I do agree you're in that situation.
And, but fundamentally, like,
haven't farmers always sort of moved in this direction anyway,
you know, from the first man who had to run around his field,
waving his arms around to get rid of the insects,
to the man who put fertilizer and, you know,
chemicals in the soil that would stop the crickets from eating the crops and stuff.
So it's kind of like, there's always been,
they've always grabbed technology with both,
hands.
But yes, I mean, there's something,
we obviously losing the romance of a man
with a two-struck engine
pottering around the,
or before that, a horse.
Or before that a horse.
But I guess the reason that's,
what I'm saying is,
like, I feel like it's relevant,
is because the way he got into owning a farm,
I'm presuming you're saying that
because it would be some kind of tax avoidance reason.
Right, okay.
Inherent.
It's inherent tax.
Fine.
Fine.
But the,
he was named the National Farmers Union Farming Champion in like 2021.
they love him, right?
Yeah, because no one's speaking for them.
You know what I mean? There's no famous...
The most famous farmers would be some bloke on country file, you see, every third Sunday
afternoon, do you know what I mean?
Good programme, by the way.
Good programme, good programme.
Do you think it's a good programme?
Yes, I think so. I think it's a...
I think it should be protected. I think it's one of those things that the BBC should
be celebrated for.
Agree.
Hard agree from...
Rather than the voice and stuff like that.
The only thing it's got going against it is back in the day when I had a proper job,
it was accompanied by quite a lot of Sunday, Sunday scurries.
A lot of kind of, uh,
country fires over Sunday is basically on its way out and it's working.
Right, okay.
But that's not country files fault, is it?
No.
As soon as they seek them.
As soon as he's seek them, you're like, oh, fuck.
It's, um, it's, what's his name?
Allie Jones, isn't it now?
Yeah, all right?
That's the thing, though.
Like, at least with Seekam, you're like, at least with Seek him.
You just would trust him to be, you know, he's in the goodies and stuff.
He's probably, you know, received a few, you know, a bit of oral sex.
Do you know what I mean?
I just feel like, I just feel like.
You, but crudely, from 2001, he was quite literally dead.
Yes.
He couldn't carry on doing the show.
No head dead.
But I just feel, I don't know why we can't have these kind of like men with a bit of a wink in their eyes.
Do you know what I mean?
I just feel like he put himself about.
little bit in the 70s. Harry Seekin with that beautiful booming voice.
And Allard Jones takes over and he's just a bit, he's like dish soap. Do you know what I mean?
He's like a, he's like a soggy hand sanitizer bottle.
I know what you mean?
I feel like that's, that's kind of a hallmark of modern society generally though, isn't it?
It's like the thing that the thing that the two lads on, the rest of its history talk about a bit.
when they talk about Thatcher's government, Thatcher's cabinet,
is they always, like, just get absolutely stunned
by the sheer amount of war heroes are in the cabinet.
Like, there's like six of them who've got, like, really decorated
for their conduct in Second and the Second World War,
and you've got, like, the, you know,
the undersecretary for pensions has been, like,
he stormed a German position in a tank and, like, take,
and got all these awards for bravery.
Like, you don't really see that now, do you?
No, no.
It's like, you don't really see people who've lived lives in public life
entertainment now.
Harry Seacom died at 79.
He always looked about 85.
I don't even know.
I don't know how that works.
I just always saw him as like,
he just always for me was just the,
he was the UK's cryer.
He was the town crier.
For the UK.
It's just a loud booming man
who just shouts.
But on the other hand,
Lillard Jones did appear in a series
of the Mask's singer.
So does that change your,
is that change your opinion?
My,
my favorite priest
at school died this week
or died last week
I'm very sorry to hear that
that's all right
Father Hogarth
I hadn't seen him sometime
but he was 84
when he died I think
and I was sort of reminiscent
with a mate
who knew him about
you know this priest and stuff
he was kind of like one of those blocs
who you'd look back
and sort of go
you know like how we all look back
and sort of go
oh everyone was autistic then
weren't they
and he was just
he was just on the spectrum somewhere
and he was
he was quite an interesting fellow,
but very,
very,
just,
you know,
he just had one of those brains
where you're like,
you,
you just seemed very unique to him.
And then now you look back
and sort of go,
oh, yeah,
okay,
he was just in the father,
he was in the priesthood.
And he had that kind of brain.
And it was,
you know,
he had some kind of
neurodiversity.
And it was,
and it was like going back over,
like,
the priests that we sort of used to,
you know,
talk to and stuff.
And your favorite priests
were just the drunk ones.
Do you know what?
They were just like...
Could have a bit of interest about them, yeah.
They'd always have, because priests, by the very nature,
you have to wear a lot of black clothing.
And for some reason, a lot of them really fucking loved,
like, eating quite a lot of eggs for breakfast.
And so they'd always have...
They'd be pissed and they'd have food down there,
like eggs down their front all the time.
It's really hard to discern whether you think
that you're classing this is a positive thing or not.
I think it is a positive thing.
I just feel like they're, you know, they're up to stuff.
Do you know what I mean?
They're men of God, but they're, you know,
they're thought.
people, but they're, you know, it looks like they've lived a bit of life.
Well, I think it's Nick Cave who says the interest in, the real interest for him around things
like faith and people of men of the cloth and stuff like that is it found in the uncertainty,
in the doubt.
Yes.
And if you've got one that's got a bit of doubt, i.e. it's got this bit rough around the edges.
That's where it becomes quite interesting.
But I want to do, just to lean into that kind of Margaret Thatcher's cabinet being
war heroes thing.
And you just don't see people of this weight now.
is Erie Neve, who was assassinated by the IRA in the late 70s,
he was like the Ministry for Transport and also one of the first,
I think he was literally the first person to ever escape from coldies.
Imagine putting that away.
It's an amazing.
Putting that away for a,
putting that way for a, for a, you know, a desk job.
And you know what annoys me about it?
They probably don't talk about it, do they?
No.
But then they wouldn't talk about, would they?
No.
Talk about it.
Talk about it.
Yeah.
I've got about five, you know,
months of podcasting out of me knocking down a wall in my garden.
Exactly.
Talk about it.
Terrible.
My late granddad only started talking about his war service as he got much older.
And he once just chucked in there.
It was his 90th birthday and he, and he, and some family made him a cake and we haven't
had a little thing for him.
And it was just in the family.
There was only about 10 people there.
Yeah.
And someone asked him to say a few words.
And he said, I hope I don't make a hundred was the first thing he said, which is obviously
pleasing.
And the second thing he said was my favorite birthday was my 21st birthday when all the Chinese
were trying to bomb my van.
Right.
Because he was in Korea in the Royal Engineers.
And I think he was driving a truck, like a military truck, taking a bridge parts to a bridgehead.
Yeah.
And he said that the Chinese knew he was there or the North Koreans or whatever.
And they were trying to bomb him.
And he said it was the most exciting birthday ever.
And I was like, well, and I get why he's saying that.
He wants to kind of articulate how he feels, you know, he's getting towards the end of his life.
But the way he said it, it was a bit like, yeah, but realistically,
you're not going to get a birthday of similarly, similar to that.
No.
You're living in Southern Hampshire in, you know, in 2020.
Maybe you could, you know, maybe you could, um, you know,
recreate it.
Just bomb my granddad in the garden.
Happy birthday!
Talk to the man at the Chinese restaurant around the corner.
I got, listen.
Listen.
It's a grenade.
Listen, can you, listen, you just come around my gunman's house.
Pete, that's racist.
Why is that, you said the Chinese?
And those guys presumably would be.
Chinese, wouldn't they?
Yeah, but I'm just saying...
There we go. Thank you.
Not racist.
But you just,
if you shout not racist.
Okay, you've basically
put me in a situation where any
response I make to it has to sound racist.
I think it's the same as being racist.
I think I'm going to start
becoming a,
like one of those kind of podcasts.
Are you familiar with
Tony Hinchcliffe,
the Kill Tony host?
Son of like cat
sort of man.
He's sort of talks like...
Let me Google him.
I probably recognize this.
And he's a...
the cat man and he does like
kind of roast comedy
I don't think I know him no
your impression isn't helping
he sort of talks like this
and he's very very
sassy and he talks about
and he basically just slates everybody
like his whole thing is like he'll
he gets a lot of comedians on
he lots of comedians on
loads of punters on
members of the public and he just gets
the comedians and himself
sort of like
and he and he
performs at don't
His main
schick is
black stuff
Asian people
Muslim stuff
he's the worst
he's not only the worst
sort of stand-up
I'm using the word stand-up very very loosely
I know you love a bit of stand-up chat
he's not a
he's not a stand-up
he's just a racist
right I mean and he is
incredibly popular
and I cannot fathom the caliber of man
usually men
who find him utterly charming.
He is the most disgusting snake human
who ever lived.
It's like an Andrew Dice Clay type character
who would like sell out the garden
five nights in a row and you watch it about now
and you're like,
people lost their fucking minds in the 80s.
He is so poor.
Andrew Dice Clay has one,
like in his little finger,
you know, he has more skill than this.
I mean that is saying something.
Poor tent of the apocalypse.
A third of a man.
And he did an epic special quite recently
and I was like, I wonder what that's like
because he, I've seen it, business,
I've done him, I've seen him do a roast of,
WrestleMania.
He did, WrestleMania basically invited him to do it,
Tony Hinchcliff, kill Tony about WrestleMania,
where he just basically invited people on
and did his own material about the,
about that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the wrestlers.
And they were, and all of the jokes were basically,
if the wrestler was Mexican, you know,
it went about as well as he demanded.
if the wrestler was Japanese,
it went about, you know,
it couldn't get a handle on whether they were Korea.
The jokes were all about being from China.
It was just confusing.
It's almost like,
it's so perverse.
It's almost like an art form.
And it's kind of like,
how has he done this?
How has he managed to get this sort of Korean?
He's incredibly successful.
He does like a live podcast,
Killed Tony every week, apparently.
And I'm not because he's a lot of his stuff,
but I watched a bit of his netflix special.
It's like, he's got up on stage.
You know, a legendary theatre where, like,
a lot of, like, leading lights about the day.
I'm really worried about where this is going.
He just gets up and he just,
and he hasn't got,
he doesn't got any stuff to talk about.
He doesn't do any material.
He just sort of goes,
what's your name?
You're a black guy.
You should be called Deshawn instead of Sean.
Is he campers you're making him out to be?
Yeah, he sounds like a cat.
He sounds like a cat.
talking cat.
And it's worth a watch
because I think he even went back and edited it
because he was just getting so much
dogs or dogs abuse.
Dogs are you, say dogs on.
Sorry.
World Cup mode.
Sorry.
Dogs abuse.
Dogs or abuse.
Yeah, it was astonishing.
But he's well worth looking at
because his stand-up is
fucking atrocious.
I think he deleted his last special
because he didn't want people watch it
because he's so bad.
He's got writers.
He's got writers, and the best he can do is
Black people are this.
He's got like three Netflix
specials. Honestly,
worth a little hit.
You like a little hit watch like me.
I'll give it a little. Give it a five minutes.
Give me like a car crash.
I'll watch it.
Like a talking racist cat
who hasn't got any material
just up on stage for an hour.
That Andrew Dice Clay
clip I'm referring to specifically,
he's playing like Madison Square Garden
sold out.
And he does about
10 minutes of
like nursery rhymes
he's rewritten to make them vulgar
and the crowd are like
shouting along with it.
Is that his memory too?
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you watch like watch any
like Adam Sandler
tapes from back of the day, you're like
I used to, but the thing is though
and I was going to come back to bite me
I know because I imagine they're terrible, right?
I genuinely
wouldn't have listened to any of them since like
1991.
Yeah.
But when we were kids,
me and my mates,
we had a couple of Adam
sound
the cassettes.
And we used to
think they were the
funniest thing ever.
We should listen to them
all the time.
It's just voices,
isn't it?
He would do song,
he do a comedy
songs, he do voices.
A lot of it's probably
hugely problematic now.
But is that not
how he made his name
doing that kind of stuff?
Yeah, just yeah,
just doing that.
I just,
I just, I tell you,
as 10-year-olds,
we just thought it
was the fucking
most amazing thing ever.
You know,
I guess they've got money
these days,
the 10-year-olds.
Maybe that's the,
maybe that's the,
maybe that's the audience.
But that was also,
That was also like the height of,
um,
that was at the height of like entertainment for us.
Like,
because he would,
he would have been on like Saturday Night Live probably what from the late 80s maybe.
And so,
so he would do this stuff.
But for us,
like,
I didn't even know what Saturday Night Live was then.
And there's no way we would have got any kind of consistent,
um,
entertainment from the US.
Yeah.
Because we,
we,
yeah,
you just,
genuinely,
like,
it just sounds so,
it makes me sort of the world's oldest,
bloke. But we used to sit around
in my mate's bedroom after school, and he'd put the cassette
on and we would just sit there listening to it, cracking up
and pausing it and rewinding it for the funniest stuff.
And that was like a proper night's
entertainment for us. It's bad, isn't it?
It's like a stone-aged man, like around a fire.
It's a miracle. We're so liberal these days, one would
suggest. Right, we'll be back
for more, Lugn-Nepid's show the next
time out.
And if you can get to the show, hello,
at Lugpeed Show.com. We'll get sued to us do some emails in the next show.
I think that's probably the direction of travel.
This show should take in the next one.
Look at yourself.
Take it easy.
See you.
Bye, yeah, Louie.
Bye-bye.
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