The Luke and Pete Show - Conspiracy People

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

Pete’s decided that he wants to start his own conspiracy theory. So, Luke helps him brainstorm ideas on today’s show.In an unlinked conversation, we also start a campaign to get Pete a job in the ...House of Commons and the two lads once again lock horns over Pete's favourite band, Pulp.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow.We're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 big girl big girl remember that oh yeah what was that kevin and perry go large oh that's a shame that's a shame you bring up that i reckon that might be all right if you watched it now you reckon yeah but you're an in-betweener Stan so I don't trust you you like anything where men approaching their 30s and above play teenagers when they're trying to lose get their end away so to speak
Starting point is 00:00:36 I secretly love the in-betweeners because I have made a career out of being Jay right which one's Jay? the one who tells lies about all the girls he has sex with nice like it okay well there's a man on Instagram Jay. Right. Which one's Jay? The one who tells lies about all the girls he has sex with. Nice. Like it. Okay. Well, there's a man on Instagram that I've sent you a couple of times that reminds me of your shtick
Starting point is 00:00:52 a little bit. Oh, yeah. A man who's kind of got a similar sort of like beard and hair. And it's basically an act you used to do about five years ago. But he's managed to monetise it, Luke. Yeah. And he's much creepier than I was ever able to be. He's basically what I wanted to do with that.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah. The one where I used to talk about making really intense eye contact with people and then wetting myself and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about going... Let's name check him. Say again, I can't remember his name. I think he's Waif on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Waif, yeah. Because I think people would deserve to hear it. Yeah, he's very good. But it did remind me. I said to you, this reminds me of you about five years ago when you used to come up to me and go, yeah, should we go and get some food, yeah? Mm, yeah?
Starting point is 00:01:34 Eat lots of food, shall we? Mm, yeah? Mm, like that. And you used to creep me out. He's called waif, W-A-I-F, eight, underscore. Yeah. I hope he's very successful. He is really funny.
Starting point is 00:01:45 When you came across him and sent him to me, I watched every single one of his videos on this thing, and I loved all of them. Check it out, everyone. It's a bit of David Brent, which, again, it's kind of what we were all doing around at that time. But yeah, he's up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Enjoy him. But I think also, just as another point of advent, before we get into the show proper, after you check out Waif, do contribute to our GoFundMe. We're in support of the Tate brothers. Yes, yes. I think they've had a rough old time of things.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Oi, oi. You boast about moving to Romania because it's corrupt and you can pay your way out of anything and then you get corrupted on and you're labelled a prat. What a shame. Even if he hasn't done it, he's boasted that he loves the corruption.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah. So, you know, what is it? You can't just have one side of the corruption. What? Like, why do both of those idiots, bearing in mind they're supposed to be these images of male perfection, but they all talk in front of their mouth like this and one of them's got severe male pattern baldness yes and one of them does have i think there's nothing wrong with that but i would tentatively venture
Starting point is 00:02:56 all the behavior might be an extension of the insecurity of potentially potentially it's normally little little insights of people who don't know the world of the middle-aged man. I know those guys are perhaps a bit younger, but it's generally speaking. If a man is obnoxious on the telly, for example, it's normally for one of two reasons. Male pattern baldness or a failure to achieve erection. Correct. Who have we had? I mean, there's so many spots, people on the telly who are like that.
Starting point is 00:03:24 We saw a lot of them at Champions League finals, if you recall. I would say that we've got a new hero of the right, haven't we? We've got a new hero of the robust male anti-vax right, haven't we, this week? It's not me, is it? It's not you, no. It's one of the Kennedys. Which one killed that woman? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You're really opening with that, are you? Yeah, I'm opening with that. I don't care. Who drove the car off the cliff and rolled out before he got dragged into the crevice? Let's just go back. Pull back. Yeah. And not worry about that part of it.
Starting point is 00:04:01 All right. Because who you're talking about is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., aren't you? Robert F. Kennedy Jr. about that part of it. All right. Because who you're talking about is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., aren't you? Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Yeah. But there was a Kennedy that rolled out of a car, didn't he? Yes. Yes. Chappaquiddick you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Right. Yeah. The Chappaquiddick incident you're talking about in 1969. Which brother was that? That was Ted Kennedy. That was Ted Kennedy. Right. I knew there was a Ted somewhere in there. Theodore. Good? That was Ted Kennedy. That was Ted Kennedy. Right, I knew there was a Ted
Starting point is 00:04:26 somewhere in there. Theodore. Good. Alright, fine. But that's nothing to do with the fact that old Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been doing vaccine nonsense for ages. It's just that he happened to pop up on Joe Rogan. Yeah, he's been very busy. And a lot of people have been sort of saying
Starting point is 00:04:42 it's quite sweet really. They've been saying to be honest, I'd usually be against clever people debating idiots. But to be honest, when I was really right wing, debating people was really useful because I had to sort of research my so-called research. And it turns out a lot of what I thought was a lot of shit. So actually, even the act of potentially considering a debate yeah enough to shake people
Starting point is 00:05:07 out of their nonsense yeah you just have a look around you sort of go i mean there's a lot of bad websites saying all this stuff i've not seen a single reputable website say any of this but then what you got to do what you must do and this is solid advice is you then must double down double dune never lose face never lose face double doon for crying out loud. Keep everything exactly the same as it always has been so that you don't get upset or frightened. Is there anything, is there like a conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:05:33 that I can get involved with that will not ally me to the more unsavoury side of conspiracy theories? Yeah, like a gentle, family-friendly conspiracy theory. Yeah, is there something that I could be a preeminent expert on um a conspiracy theory is not really going to do much harm to anyone like you know all giraffes are homosexual or something like that like like i have an idea i have an idea in my head
Starting point is 00:05:56 i sort of say giraffes there's no straight giraffes and if they do procreate it's just because they think they're having sex with a with another um same same sexreate, it's just because they think they're having sex with another same sex and it's just accidental. But truly, giraffes are ogre. I just need something like that that's not going to offend anyone particularly. Well, I think that what you've stumbled upon there is every conspiracy theory has to start somewhere, right?
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah. So you could just start that one if you wanted. Yeah, all right. Well, I put that one out my bum, so to speak, and I don't want to start with that one, but maybe we could come up with one. Hello at lookapete.com. Maybe somebody could come and get in
Starting point is 00:06:34 touch. What's a nice safe conspiracy theory that's mental, but safe enough for me not to be pulled in with all of the right wing lot, but make a bit of money off it. Oh, you want to make money? I think that changes the dial a bit.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Okay. I want you to do it just for the joy of it. I don't want you to make money out of it. Oh, okay, fair. Because that's when it becomes a grift, isn't it? Yes, yeah. So I've got a list here of conspiracy theories, and I can think of a couple off the top of my head that aren't um so what about this one the
Starting point is 00:07:06 one that keeps popping into my head is the conspiracy theory that paul mccartney died in the 60s yeah and was replaced by an imposter now i'm tempted to say that's probably harmless to everyone apart from paul mccartney but i now quite intensely dislike paul mccartney so i don't care about that. Why? Because of the AI stuff he's been up to? No,
Starting point is 00:07:28 because I think he's a really embarrassing bloke. But you love music from the... We had a little tete-a-tete on the WhatsApp about Pulp being
Starting point is 00:07:39 the best band ever. No, you were obnoxious and I sent some laughing emojis. That does not constitute a tete-a-tete. A tete-a-tete a tete-a-tete mano en mano
Starting point is 00:07:46 on the WhatsApp group in front of our colleagues by the way what's wrong with that I posted a picture of Jarvis Cocker playing Rolf Harris what are you going to do
Starting point is 00:07:55 why did that picture you shared of Jarvis Cocker look so much like Rolf Harris because he was playing Rolf Harris in that show wasn't he
Starting point is 00:08:04 he was singing two little boys I have no idea that happened oh yeah he did stars in their eyes he came out and he sang playing Rolf Harris in that show, wasn't he? He was singing Two Little Boys. I have no idea that happened. Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah. Stars in their eyes. He came out and he sang Two Little Boys dressed as Rolf Harris.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Was that before what was known about? Obviously, that was before. Yeah, I mean, that would be, even for ITV, that would be mental. Yeah. So I want to give people the full picture here. So there was a kind of adjacent conversation happening in the Team Stack WhatsApp group.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Someone mentioned something about music and about Sheffield. And I think it was because the Arctic Monkeys cancelled the show because of laryngitis. And so we were talking about that. And then someone talked about Sheffield bands and then you piped up. I thought actually it was,
Starting point is 00:08:44 what was quite interesting was the whole thing was quite a role reversal between you and I. Because you came in with a massive tout, which is like me. Right. And then I laughed at you, which would normally be the other way around. That's fair. So you just came straight in, two-footed, and went, best fourth, fifth, and sixth albums in rock history. And then left the chat again. I think so.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I'm always in the chat. I mean, me not being there, it's just I'm not posting. It doesn't make any sense. I would say that, I mean, there can't be that many bands who hit their stride four albums in. Yeah, there must be. There are. Really?
Starting point is 00:09:18 I mean, there can't be, really. I mean, to go from where Pulp were, awful, to where Pulp got to, excellent. Awful. I'm very much in, because I'm going to see them next week, I think. I'm very much in the, I'm very excited about seeing Pulp live kind of thing. No, I think it's great. I don't wish to bestow any ill feeling towards them upon you.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I like that you like them. I've not got an issue with that. You're presumably talking about his and hers different class and this is hardcore, right? Yeah, yeah. And you're saying that's a great album run. That's a great album run. Now, there's a wider conversation some of my friends and I have
Starting point is 00:09:53 about has any artist ever done five 10 out of 10 albums in a row, right? That's so rare. I don't think anyone's even done four. I think it might be non-existent. Now, a lot is very subjective. I don't think anyone's even done four. I think it might be non-existent. Now, a lot is very subjective. I don't think there is an artist out there that has done five 10 out of 10
Starting point is 00:10:11 albums in a row, and instantly you're thinking, okay, what about the Beatles? I don't even think the Beatles have done it, and I don't think Bob Dylan's done it, and I don't think David Bowie's done it, and I don't think Neil Young's done it either. It might be something mad like, yeah, but it's 10 out of 10 don't think Neil Young's done it either. It might be something mad like, yeah but it's 10 out of 10 for them though isn't it?
Starting point is 00:10:27 It's 5 out of 5, 10 out of 10 albums for them. But if you look at the Beatles as an example if you go through what would be generally, I think generally considered to be their golden period from 1965-ish to you know, to whatever they did Rubber Soul, fine, people would
Starting point is 00:10:44 say that the following albums are 10 out of 10s rubber soul revolver sergeant peppers magical mystery tour isn't it's an album now and that's where the that's where the road stops and it's very difficult to find um an artist that's done that the only one i could potentially think of this is going to get me a lot of trouble with both with you and with the listenership at large is i wonder if the super furry animals have done it i think they might have i think they might have you maniac no i think i genuinely think they might have made you were playing you'd be saying primal scream have done it next what was wrong with you no i like the sort of animals but even like even you've got to sort of go right
Starting point is 00:11:22 even for british pop music of that genre and that era that two that you've got to sort of go, right, even for British pop music of that genre and that era, that two, you know, double decade sort of period, that's not up there. It's just not. I think if you ignore, and this is potentially problematic again, I'm turning into Andrew Tate myself here. If you ignore the Welsh language album,
Starting point is 00:11:40 which I don't necessarily... Fuzzy Lodge and Radiator Gorilla rings around the world and Phantom Power are all fucking brilliant they're all fucking brilliant but they're not like
Starting point is 00:11:51 they're just not they just can't be up there they're not 5 out of 5 10 out of 10 albums Jarvis Cocker is not fit to smell the exhaust fumes of the fucking bus that takes Super Furry Animals
Starting point is 00:12:00 laundry to the fucking laundrette good good good stuff anyway why would they take a bus to the laundrette. Good. Good, good stuff. Anyway, why would they take a bus to the laundrette with their stuff on? What do you think people who've never heard the show before are thinking right now? Give them an intro, Pete. Very new to two men talking
Starting point is 00:12:14 about stuff. It's just two lads talking about batteries and stuff, I reckon. And I know there's like a meme thing now where two white men talk about nothing on podcasts and it's like a thing and it's a bit cringe. I want it to be known for the record. We've been doing it longer and worse than all of us.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah. And we used to be both better and worse at it. So, you know, we've got tired of you, if anything, I would say. I'm a dad now. I can't do anything. You're a dad now. I've noticed actually when Father's day came around uh last week um i realized that you've absolutely maximized the amount of father's days you've got absolutely cynical move to have a have a have a have a burn like mere weeks just before father's
Starting point is 00:13:00 day so that you maximize every last father's day Day, you get out of that little guy. Depends when I die, though, doesn't it? Well, not really, because you're giving yourself the best chance, because you could be waiting a whole year, almost, three, four days to get there, and then you would, yeah, so I think it's just well done.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Well, when the wife I have access to was pregnant, Mother's Day came along. Right. And I got her some Mother's day stuff anyway yeah that's fair but and then also the our baby's due date was on the american mother's day oh yeah i guess being it's a different one does so my wife i've actually two mother's days every year double um passports you have dual nationality yeah but that's nothing to do with mother's day pete yeah but i think you should be able to legally have two mother's days if you're
Starting point is 00:13:45 because you're not getting one because you're not american but like i think having two no the baby will have both yeah and also i think there's an international baby's not mother stop this no the baby will have two passports what i mean oh just like uh um uh the prime minister's dad um stanley johnson stanley johnson yeah my baby my baby that was only born last month actually Prime Minister's dad. Stanley Johnson. Stanley Johnson. Yeah, my baby, my baby that was only born last month actually voted for Brexit as well. So if that annoys you,
Starting point is 00:14:11 don't listen. Don't listen to the show. He's basically a better citizen than both of us because we've not got dual passports. He's not apparently taxed. When I sort of go to, when you fly on British Airways now
Starting point is 00:14:22 and you go west, they do like to flood you with adverts for, I think, St Lucia and maybe Bermuda, where you can pay like 20 grand and get a passport there. Oh, I've seen those adverts. It's obviously more useful than having an American passport. It's Bermuda, isn't it? Is it Bermuda? I think St Lucia do it as well.
Starting point is 00:14:42 But I think it's one of the more useful passports and you can get it wherever you're from, I suppose. Because our passport used to be quite useful, less useful now, but still in the collection of different passports, very useful. I think the most useful one is Japan. You can go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Right, so the global passport power rank, aka the passport index, is a thing, isn't it? Yeah. And it used to be that the UK and the US were number one. Yes, yeah. It's not the case now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Would that, would the, I mean, presumably it's more difficult for british people and american people to travel to places like russia and belarus so like so that would notch it now and notch it down a little bit as well wouldn't it so there's like for some reason and this is passportindex.org and i weirdly enough when i was thinking about looking into something else i um i looked this up before i'm pretty sure it is it is legit yeah I think so yeah
Starting point is 00:15:46 because it's just how difficult it is to get into different countries and obviously we used to be up there yeah so basically now Japan
Starting point is 00:15:55 you're right Japan's number one in 2023 Singapore is number two really South Korea's joint number two with it
Starting point is 00:16:01 Germany's three with Spain and you have to go all the way down to sixth now for United Kingdom and seventh now for United States. Right, okay. So do you want the most useless passport in the world?
Starting point is 00:16:15 See if you can name any of the bottom five. Bottom five. North Korea. Do they even have passports? Weirdly enough, they're not in the bottom five. Really? Okay, all right. Would it be one of those...
Starting point is 00:16:30 Would it be like a disputed territory of issuing their own... Yeah, Scotland is. No, I'm just joking. It's Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan and Yemen are the bottom five. Isn't that interesting interesting because you meet people from those places all the time it's great stuff
Starting point is 00:16:49 yeah I don't know you live in Leon C so I don't know if you meet them all the time I hear people complain about them
Starting point is 00:16:56 all the time that's not the same thing but I guess maybe I suppose it has to be officially recognised by the international community to be an official passport
Starting point is 00:17:04 perhaps right okay you don't get them they're not observed that maybe I suppose it has to be officially recognised by the international community to be an official passport perhaps. Right, okay. You don't get them from, they're not observed for some other reason. But yeah, so the UK and US used to be top. I remember that because I read about it a few years ago, but obviously that's gone to shit now. So it's probably since Brexit for the UK, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah, I think we got notched down a few because it's just more difficult to get into places, isn't it? You've got to get in the different lines and stuff. But you know, all joking aside, I would we got notched down a few. Because it's just more difficult to get into places, isn't it? You've got to get into different lines and stuff. But, you know, all joking aside, I would also say this. If people weren't so beset upon doing the country down, Brexit would be more of a success and the passport power rankings would go up. Yeah, I just think that if we back Britain a bit more,
Starting point is 00:17:40 this guy would... I just think if we ate out to help out more if we jingle the jangle what was it jingle jangle jingle to mingle jingle a mingle i'm more of a uh jangle to mangle uh mrs mangle from neighbors and jimmy saville that's kind of where i am emotionally yeah jingle i'm also more of a uh a to Kurt Angle. I hang out with the wrestler Kurt Angle and he mangles me. He mangles you, yeah. To help out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:12 As he's getting older, he's kind of like resembling a bit of a, like a baldy sort of Stretch Armstrong kind of figure. He's just looking very sort of stringy and weird. I haven't clapped eyes on the man for a long time. I'm going to look at him now. He does some good social medias with his little daughter, which is quite cute. Does he indeed?
Starting point is 00:18:31 He does indeed. He looks really old now. Bloody hell. He does look really old now. But like bald guys kind of stay, stay kind of young looking for quite a while, but Angles just kind of like hit that 55 year old. He looks a bit like Wilco Johnson.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Wilco Johnson. the drummer guy late the late got the load the dr feelgood singer oh yes okay yeah that's it yeah which you spoiled for me famously did not know that but yeah i mean kurt angle is the first time i looked at the mouth rage speaking of um eat out to help out yeah i don't want to i don't want to say this in an offensive way so just stop me if this is like an offensive way of putting it and that's me asking you to do that
Starting point is 00:19:08 so that's where we are now eat in to what? yeah you're the worst is Rishi Sunet like a really weirdly small bloke? he's got
Starting point is 00:19:18 so I'm not having to go just for being short because obviously he can't but he just seems like to every other person he stands next to he seems
Starting point is 00:19:26 like almost disproportionately small. I think he's quite, he's just, I think he's in proportion though, so you don't really notice it quite so much. No, I think you notice it more because he's in proportion. You reckon? I think he looks, I think he's got the
Starting point is 00:19:41 Tom Cruise kind of algorithm, you know, he's got slightly bigger head than his shoulders, you know think he's got the the tom cruise kind of um um algorithm you know he's got slightly bigger head than his than his shoulders he you know he's just he's just doing doing his thing yeah i'm very well out of that to be compared to tom cruise i just i just i'm not i'm not unused to seeing people shorter than me of course because you know but he just seems like he photographs very badly. He looks like an action man. I think when he got caught on a hot mic talking about...
Starting point is 00:20:11 When people say the trans debate, it's just some people are being cruel and other people are saying don't do that. It's not really a debate, is it? Someone's just been a cunt somewhere. Like you and me and pulp. Exactly. That could be part of my conspiracy theory, maybe.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I don't know. The world is trying to keep pulp down. Yeah, I think the new world order. We need a great reset so we can enjoy his and hers on vinyl again. I think that you should start a conspiracy theory that Jarvis Cocker's actually really young. Yes, even though people will point to the fact, as discussed on this show,
Starting point is 00:20:41 their first appeal session was 1981. point to the fact as discussed on this show their first appeal session was 1981 he was apparently he was in his first band in um 1978 it seems mad that they would be doing that sound at a time when the sex pistols were doing their thing you know what i mean around the same time yeah well yeah i mean like we give or take a couple years but you do sort of go it's very different to what everyone else i think he's five years older than ian brown yeah and he and and has he got any nunchucks that's the question has he got any covid he uses the nunchucks to fight the covid carry on carry on what you're gonna say about rishi soon those little balls sort of float over he knocks them out um i think um i think opinions like that uh that he got caught on hot mic sort of saying this he knocks him out I think I think opinions like that that he got caught on hot mics
Starting point is 00:21:26 sort of saying this and that about trans people about biology lessons and stuff that makes him sound like the nerdiest little child who's trying to impress some bigger boys and it's those kind of things
Starting point is 00:21:40 that makes me sort of go oh yeah yeah when he tries to sort of when he tries to sort of fit in with the bigger boys it just makes me think oh everyone's a bigger boy you're actually quite petty aren't you actually quite petty and small you pretend to be this david cameron kind of like a populist but you're actually just a small little idiot aren't you i wouldn't say david
Starting point is 00:21:59 cameron's a populist but is he well i mean i say he's a he's a um sorry an everyman rather than a populist oh sorry okay right yeah so so say he's a he's a um sorry in every man rather than a populist oh sorry okay right yeah so so my issue with that would be that you know ultimately if you think about it the most recent leaders we've had in the uk they don't really have any opinions at all and so these things can come up can't they because they are either playing to the crowd or trying to impress a bigger boy or coming out with the latest thing. Like Rishi Sunak, I promise you now, a man of his means, with a family of his means, with the career he's had,
Starting point is 00:22:34 he has zero interests whatsoever. He's never had to form any kind of opinion before in his life. Yeah. And so it's just a gaping black hole where a policy platform should be because he doesn't have any opinions. So you could say that about Boris Johnson in a different way. You could say about Boris Johnson, he's the arch manipulator, the arch kind of shapeshifter, and he'll just go with the flow and do what he thinks people want, and that makes him a populist.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I would say that, for better or worse, the best politicians stand for something there's something that you can take them on and say i think that's fucking bullshit um i would say it's kind of that's kind of a trend around the western world you know i mean you know donald trump doesn't have any opinions no and he doesn't know what he thinks and and you know we've had eight years of just very little governance because no one's got anything that they really want to get done, really, isn't it? Would you have Jarvis in there? I just think he'd make it a bit dirty.
Starting point is 00:23:32 He's got a dirty mind and I just think he'd start legalising, like, I don't know, he'd legalise, like, a lot of saunas and stuff. I don't think saunas are illegal anyway, are they? I mean, I guess it depends on illegal anyway, are they? I mean, I guess it depends on what you get up to,
Starting point is 00:23:46 I suppose, yeah. How would you rate yourself as a dirty boy if 10 is Jarvis Cocker and one is like... Oh, I'd be... Oh, what do you mean? Oh, I thought you meant
Starting point is 00:23:55 if he was going to call me up as a frontbencher. I mean, happily. Where's that come from? I'd happily take a position. I'd love to see you on that frontbench in the Commons.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'd love to see it. Minister for Internet. What does he do? He just plugs the cable in. He just plugs the cable in. Correct. But that's actually a really interesting point as well, I think. Because when I was on paternity leave, I watched an episode of
Starting point is 00:24:19 Question Time. And one of the questions was about the danger of AI. Not necessarily the danger, but the kind of ramifications of ai and um for those people listening outside the uk question time is basically a panel show which is chaired and there's an audience you get to ask questions it's normally a broad set of pundits from across the political spectrum so you get a conservative mp at labor mp you'll get some kind of business leader you'll get environmentalist and you'll get i don't know like a fucking writer or a broadcaster or something and the question was about the ramifications of
Starting point is 00:24:53 as i've said and what i found really interesting and this i think something that will pique your interest as well is that not one person so the alternative panelist was billy bragg that week he's obviously old and quite left wing but like he was the kind of light relief type character and the rest were all our mps and business leaders not one of them could even accurately classify what artificial intelligence actually basically just answered questions about the internet they basically answered about questions about they thought it was like they thought the question was what are the dangers of the internet like they were basically saying oh yeah we've got to sort out trolling and we've got to sort out you know fake scamming and misinformation and stuff
Starting point is 00:25:32 it was nothing to do with the question i thought to myself that's completely weird because it's one thing to have a different opinion on how to approach a topic or a subject or a problem it's another thing where every single apparently thought leader in the room can't even engage on the actual question honestly no one's got any clue what's happening we spoke about this about two years ago um on the looking pitch show where um a frontbencher and minister for something quite um relevant to what they were talking about said um got the, said got the idea of a hashtag mixed up with a hash in cryptography and cryptocurrency and stuff like that. Like they got it mixed up because they had no idea. When was the last time a technocrat was found in the House of Commons?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Like no one's got a fucking clue how most of the things happen in the world these days. They've just not got the first fucking clue. And how long have we had the internet? And no one's got a fucking idea about how it all goes. At least a year. In my house, doing my fucking BT net. Don't get me started.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I literally had to start an email today with, hang on, let me get it up. This is about as forthright as Donaldson ever gets. Ever. Not in my experience. Not in my experience. Cameron, can you get this moving, please? I can't spend more time on getting your team to do their job. Can you not use a different provider?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Not really. I've put the wires in now. Let's have a break so you can calm down. Then we'll come back we'll do batteries alright then we're back with the Luke and the Pete
Starting point is 00:27:12 Shaw I'm Pete Patterson I'm Luke Moore and I know for a fact that producer Rory is absolutely delighted when we do about 28 minutes without a break
Starting point is 00:27:21 yeah I know too and also you'll have to go back and bleep out everyone's second name on that last diatribe about BT. Keeps them busy. He's off to Glastonbury tomorrow as well, so he'll be gutted.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Extra work. I want to come down on Sunday night. In his tent. Dirty. Rory, take your laptop to Glastonbury with you, mate. You'll be able to tether to your phone. All right then. It's time for some battery brands.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I've not actually got the running order up. That's how full of pep, vim and vigour I had. I didn't even bring up the running order. Outrageous. So we've got some battery brands that people have been getting in touch with. Johnny has come in with, well, Omasa Ultra Power.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Has a new player entered the game? All the best, Johnny. The picture that he's appended to his email, it's on some kind of tea towel or possibly t-shirt, but more importantly, the batteries are a real old kind of
Starting point is 00:28:16 smash to the side. So, I mean, that's not going to work, is it? The battery looks like it's been some kind of accident. It certainly does. Johnny, thanks for sending that Omasa Ultra Power in. You are the secondmasa Ultra Power in. You are the second person to send those in. Right. Our friend Jamie Williamson sent those in in January of last year.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Just so you know, Jonathan, as well. Well, he signs it off Johnny, but his email address is Jonathan. It took me ages to find that because you misspelt the word Ultra in your email, so my search function didn't work as well. I've put the extra work in there for you, but can you please make sure next time you check on your detail?
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah, but what did they actually write? Did they write the word ultra incorrectly? Yeah, U-I-T-R-A. Look at the battery picture. Look at what that says. That's not going to help me on the search, is it? I'm just saying, look at what it says on the battery. The actual battery is ultra power.
Starting point is 00:29:04 It's not ultra. It's ultra. Isn't that amazing? Oh, that's weird. Well, look at what it says on the battery. The actual battery is ultra power. It's not ultra, it's ultra. Isn't that amazing? Oh, that's weird. Well, hang on, I'll take it back. Well, so that might be a new player then.
Starting point is 00:29:10 If you're typing ultra power and you're not finding anything. Well, this is the thing. It's clearly supposed to be ultra power, but somebody fucked
Starting point is 00:29:16 up somewhere and that's your branding. But Jamie, you sent them in in January last year. He's called them Omasa Ultra Power and his are the same
Starting point is 00:29:23 with Uitra Power and Rory's categorised him as Ultra Power in the running order so I don't know either way you slice it they've been sent in before they have
Starting point is 00:29:31 but I mean but we put in an Ultra Power where it should have been an Uitra Power yeah so basically I agree so I apologise to Johnny it's not his fault it's not his fault
Starting point is 00:29:39 he did the right thing as I've got on my high horse there and I've embarrassed myself I apologise for that but you're still not a new player. Well luckily I mean because the battery is so crushed we could actually probably fit two A's in one hole in the battery daddy because it is
Starting point is 00:29:52 quite squished. Andrew Leonard. Hello to Luke and Pete I'm hoping to enter my second new play into the game but my hopes remain very low with the Raiden Extra Power Alkaline or is it Paiden that I found in the remote out of my new air conditioner I must have in the UK summers.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Thanks you, as always, for all of the wonderful content across the Stack Stable. It's provided me with a lifetime of entertaining commutes, especially during the dark days of COVID. Not a problem, Andrew. So yeah, Raiden Extra Power Alkaline,
Starting point is 00:30:20 or is it Paiden? It's very reflective. The logo is awful. I think it might be Payden. Yeah, regardless of what it is, Dave Height sent them in in July of 2021. We're having a stinker here. Absolute stinker.
Starting point is 00:30:35 You're only the second person to send them in, but you're not a new player, I'm afraid. I'd love to know what job you have, Andrew, because you shouldn't be commuting during COVID, technically speaking, unless you're a key worker. I'll assume you are at this stage, unless you tell me otherwise. Right, okay. Well, I mean, I think
Starting point is 00:30:49 if they're not going to start prosecuting people who are doing it in number 10, I don't think they're going to start doing it in number one, Andrew. Prosecute the people with no power. Right, okay, yeah, you're quite right. And if you are going to be Minister of Internet on the Tory front bench going forward, Pete, you're going to have to start towing the party line, I'm afraid. Right, okay, yeah, you're quite right. You're quite right. And if you are going to be Minister of Internet
Starting point is 00:31:05 on the Tory front bench going forward, Pete, you're going to have to start towing the party line, I'm afraid. Well, I've got my spad, Luke Moore. He can't even type in
Starting point is 00:31:12 whatever it was, Utrecht. If I'm your spad, you're in fucking big trouble, pal. Johnny Dunn's got in touch. Have I stumbled across a new player in my daughter's
Starting point is 00:31:20 second-hand music box? I hope so. Congrats to Luke on entering fatherhood. Johnny Dunn. Hey, Johnny Dunn uh says at the end of his email which uh is that in reference to here johnny park the foo fighters song for the first album probably not might be might be so i find it very difficult to search for nevolution because there's no um there's basically no... He's not typed the word Nevolution in his email. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So it doesn't appear on the search. Right. So basically, I can't find anyone who sent in batteries with Nevolution on it before him. Okay. So I'm going to assume it's a new player. Okay. Yeah, I'm looking. It's Japanese as well, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So well done them. So if you can email us in and prove that you sent Nevolution alkaline batteries in before Johnny Dunn, I would love to hear from you. Otherwise, Johnny gets the plaudits.
Starting point is 00:32:17 It's Revolution, not Nevolution. Well, this has been a most excellent Luka Piccio, even if we say so ourselves we'll be back on Monday here on Luke and Pete show
Starting point is 00:32:28 and we'll be just talking about stuff what's happened over the weekend and through the week I suppose yeah and I think what's happening is
Starting point is 00:32:34 we're recording the Monday one slightly in advance so Rory can go to Glastonbury so let's try and make the next record really difficult yes yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:32:40 so he has loads more editing to do okie dokie lovely stuff alright yeah I just don't really think people should
Starting point is 00:32:44 be having fun on our dime. No, I mean, technically not fun. I'm not having any fun on or off dimes. That's what I would say. No. All right. We'll see you next time. Have a good weekend.
Starting point is 00:32:56 All right, baby boppers. Bye-bye. the luke and pete show is a stack production and part of the acast creator network

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