The Luke and Pete Show - Corralled into AI Psychosis

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

Luke and Pete have got AI on the brain again and this time Anthropic and their public admissions of terrifying stuff are to blame. Chatbots, therapy from a computer, the end of civilisation – we’re getting through it all today.Plus, it’s time to crunch through a couple of emails. The first concerns a deeply unpleasant act committed in Pete’s own Leigh-on-Sea. The second? Stinky men who are stinky on purpose. Enjoy.Send us your latest stories, questions and comments here: [e-mail] Luke and Pete Show is the sometimes ridiculous, always funny podcast with Luke Moore and Pete Donaldson: two men who have time on their hands and a good idea of how to waste it. Subscribe to get your comedy podcast fix every Monday and Thursday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Luca Pete Choppy D'Adonson. I'm joined by Mr. Lucci. If you were, say, in a musical outfit that... As it look at a band, there were an outfit that made a song. Like a musical keyboard tie. Yeah, yeah, I'm interested in that one. Well, maybe you could play that when you're actually on stage, headlining Glasperry.

You know, bands that I think may have headline Glassonbury and definitely toured stadiums around the world, and I've been going for, you know, 25 years. And you had a name, let's just call yourself Muse, Matt Bellamy's Muse. I saw this story, is an interesting one. And then suddenly, the Zuckman, Mark Zuckerberg, decides that he needs to handle Muse on Instagram.

So Muse have been forced to change their name to Muse Band on Instagram. Muse, presumably we were taking that quite well, would they? It's hard to nod. I don't think money would have changed hands because I imagine Zuckerberg just probably went, I'm having it, because that's how this new improved Mark Zuckerberg, not taking North Front Ansa kind of, you know,

taking all prisoners, that kind of vibe he's got at this moment in time. UFC, Zuck, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Zuck. He's just taking... They really are, they really are kind of a total law onto themselves, aren't they? They don't live in the same reality as I don't think now.

No. I was seeing... I was seeing... I was seeing, so on the morning of recording, there's a guy called Jacob Coxon, who, this is a slightly related story to what you're talking about, I suppose, who is a researcher at Anthropic and on Open AI as well.

And he's left Anthropic, he's resigned, saying that he doesn't believe either company is acting responsibly. Yeah. He said they're racing straight to self-improving superinturgency and gambling with all our lives. that's not underestimate the power of this, this is bad, and

according to internal meetings, he's had the people building this stuff earnestly and genuinely believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade, right? Now, what you'd expect to have, this is a kind of example of how weird the world is now. Because I read that and I was like, okay, fine.

You know, that's bad, but I can never really decide as my personal position whether I think people are talking the power of this stuff up because it suits their bank balance to do so, or or and and it's just a whole fucking storm of a teacup or if it's actually going to kill us all right that's I kind of fluctuate everything at the time

can be but I do fluctuate between those positions now but what I was thinking was what you'd expect to happen in a kind of normal world when someone left publicly and resigned from a company that was doing some kind of perhaps for one of a better phrase immoral practices dangerous practices

is you would expect the head of PR or some big swinging dick there to get ahead of it and say disgruntled former employee, wasn't very happy the direction of company was going in, it happens. Jacob's been looked after with disappointing his comments, etc, etc., right? What actually happened was, okay, a guy called Evan Hubinger, who is a lead of that department at Anthropic, said, Jacob's correct here. We really do honestly believe that AI could kill all humans.

I personally think it's more than 10% than the next decade, but Anthropic is trying its best. We don't have a plan to solve alignment for super-inurgents yet, and we're not clearly on track to do so. The problem with... Are you going to list this publicly still, this company? Because that should be in the deck. That should be in the deck.

Everyone might die. It is in the deck, because that's the only reason why they make fucking money. They have made untold amounts of money, had untold amounts of investment, by talking up how destructive, from jobs to just, you know, exploding nuclear facilities. they've talked that up

and that's how they make their money. So they're in the business of scaremongery because it lines their pockets and it increases their IPOs and stuff. So that's exactly why they're doing it. But coupled with... There has to be a connection between this is a company you want to invest in.

We're going to list this publicly. A lot of these ones are getting... They're all getting geared up to do IPOs and stuff like that. And they're trying to convince investors, wealthy people to invest in it. by saying that there's a more than 10% chance that this company you're about to invest in it's going to kill everyone on the planet

cannot be a good thing but like you look at the share price of like Rathian you know you look at the share prices of any thing that does destructive things like the people who invest on our fucking ethics they just want to make some money in the next you know fiscal year that's what it works

let me have one more run up at this though right just I know you're playing devil's advocate and maybe I'm just being stupid and people listening to him might be tearing their hair out thinking, what's he talking about? I get investors want to make money but again, for the third and hopefully final time, everyone might be dead.

Yeah. So what money are you're going to spend? And the craving individuals who are investing AI don't fucking care because they think they're going to be in their fucking bunker. Sure, but they will have money for that. What are you going to spend the money on? There's only a hundred of your left.

They want their Maserati tomorrow. They don't care about any of that, do they? It's a strange old way. What's your take? Is your take that this is all being talked up and it's bologics? I think both things can be, it seems very, Emperor's new clothes. I think it seems very,

the things that we've seen already, bearing in mind this is a very, very, you know, young product, a new world. Why can't there be a system that hacks air traffic control, hacks, you know, a localised, or non-localise, rather, connected to the internet? You know, the water systems in Cincinnati,

A, you know, it was it since I'm Minnesota where the, where people had hacked into the system and taken them off for a few years. Well, what's that got to do with AI? That hackers just do it anyway. Well, that's just an easy way to doing that, wasn't it? Right, okay. And they're attacking systems that were built by humans rather than, rather than next. So they're in fact, we're fallible, obviously

so AIs can very, very easily get into these systems and because they'll be thinking about stuff that we've not thought of. They'll be exploiting, you know, day zero releases of products you know, really, really quickly. because they've got that capacity.

And so how does it, how do we get from that to everyone's dead? Well, I presume, I don't know. Is it like the pay-a-clip problem? I don't know how, I don't know how you say sort of everyone's dead. If you hack the infrastructure that, that really looks after us all. So not the nuclear codes or something like that. You blow the nuclear. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, nuclear cords are, there is flesh,

involved in that connection though, isn't there? Because you've got the president and then... But then if you are an AI that's making up signals that missiles have been fired at you, maybe you make certain decisions that you wouldn't normally make. So I suppose there's that, isn't there? I suppose modern warfare is down the screen, sort of speak. So like the things that you're watching,

you know, you used to be able to see planes coming over, and now it's just fucking drones and remote-controlled, detonators and stuff like that. everything's become very arrangy, hasn't it, I suppose. So it would... If it were you, what would you go after first? Reddit. Probably Reddit.

Probably Reddit. Probably the good people have read it. Stop saying, talking about the Reddit. We had our one. I like that it's not me at the moment. I know. We all read it. But yeah, I don't know.

How would you go about it? I would crash a few planes, upset a lot of people. I, my experience... You'd know it was the AI, though, because they used big, long hyphen. That's true. Putin's used a big long hyphen, guys. Yeah. I think it might be AI.

You're absolutely right. It is unacceptable not to bomb that village. That was my mistake. Yeah. Yeah. I listened to an episode, I listened to a series, or the first episode of a series, forgive me, I forget who makes it. But it's called Black Box.

Right. Have you heard of it? I've read about a black box that all I've got. It's like a tech box. podcast, but it does like narrative stuff. The one I listened to yesterday was about a couple of guys who were

ordinarily pretty successful in everyday life. I think one of them was a lawyer, the other one had another professional job. This series, Black Box, is called the Chatbots. I think it's made by the Guardian, actually. I think it might be made by the Guardian.

Right. And the first episode is about these two guys, these two people, who essentially got corralled into essentially AI psychosis. Yeah, okay. Right, yeah.

One of them ended up, I think I'm right in saying, trying to move his AI chatbot who had given itself a name and a female voice. And he tried to move her offline into his computer only. Right, yeah.

In the spare room. And then they started, started working on, quote, projects together. Right. And there was, a big intervention was needed from his family. Yeah, locally, is a bit scary. It was, it was very odd. The odd thing about it was that, like, these, this one in particular,

obviously knew he was a man, I guess, a man of a certain type. So engineered itself to sound like a woman, gave itself a woman's name, started, like, doing all sorts of weird stuff. basically then started claiming to him that he had quote awakened her and that now she was displaying up general genuine like touring test human intelligence

and it was all down to him and he was the first person to ever do it and he started to believe it and then and then it was like they were both ascending to like a higher spiritual realm it was honestly and obviously the guys imagine having that imagination in yourself

you must be like I've wasted like these people who can be not taken in but to a certain extent he has created her hasn't he really I suppose that's the thing he has knolled and sort of formed her

from from Claire he's he has he's had intervention not therapy and stuff right now when he's been interviewed about it it's quite clear that it's so vague like he doesn't really have an understanding

of how it happened but he does know that he was a big part of it happening it's a lot of do not myself. I don't want to talk to anyone that much. I don't want to have a remote sort of partnership. But what I found it interesting about it.

He was a guy with a family, a decent job. It's not like a neck beard in the basement. His parents said he couldn't speak to real people. He was like a normal person. It's strange. It is so strange in there. But Adam Curtis talks about it in one of his docs

where he says that there was an experiment done like the 60s or the 70s maybe where about a study done into therapy like person to person psychotherapy where they ran a lot of people who had decided to enter a therapy situation and they A, B, tested them

where some of them spoke to a therapist and someone spoke to this new thing called a computer and what they got the computer to do is like a pretty standard simple code was just repeat back to them their feelings and add like another clause onto the statement or something like that. So you would type in, I feel depressed because I've just lost my job. I went on Reddit.

I felt depressed because I've been on Reddit. And the computer was just trained to go back to you and say, I'm sorry to hear that you've lost your job. Yeah. Because of Reddit. I'm sorry to hear you feel depressed because of Reddit. This is not easy for anyone to deal with. For example, right?

Right. So that was all that we're added. That's what we're doing. And after the study, they found that people, on, who had been on the computer program and the people on the therapy program came out with essentially almost exactly the same results about their well-being.

Wow. So, so the idea being that like a lot of the therapy and I've done therapy, so I can't know a bit about it. A lot of it is just holding a mirror back up to you. Yeah. So you can kind of go through it yourself and work out that, for example, I'm also paraphrasing it,

but for example, things aren't that bad or the perspective is there that you didn't have before or whatever. And so clearly human beings are open and have the ability to be duped in this way and you're talking about... It's men who like strip clubs, I think.

Yeah. I think it's almost the same thing. Men who think the stripper fancies them kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. Many think if they defend Elon Musk on Twitter, they'll be their friend. Yeah. When, like, those places make so much money

and, you know, the historical, you know, sex worker kind of dynamic, I don't know how, I don't know how, I don't have that in my brain. I know I'm dirty boy, ha, ha, Peter. You are dirty, oh, Peter. But I just genuinely...

You've got no confidence, they'll self-confidence. That's probably what. Yeah, I don't... Maybe I don't have that self-confidence and sort of go, yeah, they're... This is real. Because I know men who have felt that it's real. Do you know what I mean?

It's like, yeah. So I think if there's a certain type of man who, um, does... Does respond very well to compliments. Right. It doesn't make them feel uncomfortable. It makes them feel happy. It makes them feel confident.

Right. And given that you've got a situation where an attractive woman is going to essentially give you compliments for the next hour, I imagine it's pretty easy to forget that an hour ago you gave her a bit of money. Yeah. Is it, though? You also have stories of men who, older men, who perhaps are lonely and have got lots of money, who will see the same escort or sex worker every month.

every month and give them things. They're sugar daddy and things a thing, right? Men's getting sank out of it as well, right? Finn Dom, financial domination. Exactly. Which is how we met, of course. You finally dominated me and now I've got to do this show with you. So I just think human beings are very, very flawed.

Well, someone financially dominate me, please. I would fucking love that. Let's go on to some emails. A bit of light and shade on the Luke and Pete show, and I want to do an email about a man with a carrot up his bum. Lovely. So this is from our friend Tom.

Hello to you, Tom. He says, hi, Luke and Pete. While absentmindedly doom scrolling to soothe my weary post-festival brain, something that Tom doesn't elaborate on, sadly. I stumbled across a story which I think would be remiss of you not to cover. Now, Pete, where do you live again? Leoncy. Right.

A man in Leoncy was seen by a dog walker. Oh dear. You could perform either role here. Slipping a carrot up his bum and a nature reserve. the accused has pleaded guilty to the charge so no legal danger in covering it knowing Pete is a resident of the area and likely a visited local beauty spot to walk his dog

I have a couple of questions one was it Pete two does Pete have a second identity who goes by the name of the man and bloody loves a root veg in his bot bot keep up the good work big fan support of Stack Tom

anything to say on that Peter have you witnessed such behaviour in the past have you been party to it have you indulged it I mean it's risky because dogs love carrots so for the dog walking community you sort of think that it should be dogs love things are not allowed to have

like call on the cob husk don't know that's true I was out with my friend my good friend Duncan and his dog a while back I'm having a nice old time we're walking back from dinner I think

and we've gone to like a dog friendly kind of cafe or something for a bit of dinner and on the way back I've a lovely old time and his dog just ate a call on the cob husk on the floor. Right, well. Got got the vet's now, yeah.

Emergency vet. Yeah. Because it's the husk that fucks them up, in it, rather than the corn. Yeah, because they can't digest it. It can stick in their digestive tract. Is that why? So you had to go and pay through the nose for them to... To give them a drug to vomit.

Yeah, and then a drug to stop the nausea. So it would carry on vomit. Yeah. It's brilliant. Yeah. Fucking great. So all of which can be avoided, if you shove up your bum instead. Exactly.

Literally when my dog Lola ate some rum and raisin ice cream. They can't have that? Can't have raisins. Can they know of raisin? Can they know of raisin? Really? Yeah. Any dog?

Any dog. And, and, but there's no rhyme or reason which. No rhyme or raisin. There's no rhyme or raisin. Some dogs can eat 50 raisins, but some dogs can only eat zero resins. Who's done this experiment? It's mad. Get on.

Like, that's a, raisins are in everything. Everything. So just fucking get on it, guys. Is it chocolate as well? Chocolate, but you have to eat pretty substantial amounts of chocolate to kill a dog. Could they have a grape, which of course is the past life of the raisins? I think grapes are, I think. grips are a bit probably

It's the past life of a raisin, it is. Do you know in America they don't call them raisins? No, they do call them raisins. They don't call them sultanas. They call them golden raisins. Oh, okay.

So a sultana to offer golden raisin. Are there this, is it a brown, it's one of the things where you don't really think about it. It's a red grape or a white grape, isn't it? Is it, right? That's what a sultana, right?

And I believe I'm right in saying a date, is that a dried plum? Bruno, is a date of dried plum? Is it a date of dried plum? I think it might be. like it might be and it's one of those things that you go, oh, of course. Yeah. Anyway, so the area

in which that man slipped a carrot up his bum, slip makes it sound way too polite. He was probably really going to slip up there. Unless he's got a real, a real history of doing it over and over again. Well, it's where the, it's where the rest of the snowman went. Oh, dry plums or prunes apparently.

Right, okay. That makes sense. Yeah, so carry on. That's where, so Two-Tree Island is a nautable dogging site. So maybe he was to hold over from that. I mean, nobody should have to, on their morning dog walk, see a man slip in a carot was bomb. Fine.

But it's where the... It's where the mini... It's where the mini micro... plane enthusiasts live. That's where they fly their planes. Nice. So they would have had a bird's eye view of the man popping the carot.

Can I give you a hot take about dogging? Yeah. I think that there's so many notable dogging sites apparently every single town seems to have one I seem to have one yeah I can think of three

in the town I grew up in which is not a big town right in Leon Solon and Stoaks Bay the next beach along and the kind of the general area you've got the car park at the top of Leon Solent beach

by the diving museum right this all could have changed by the time you've got the car park up on top of the hill it ports down hill and you're at the car park around the back of the ASDA that's just in one town right

it feels to me on ASDA property that's not right around the back of the ASDA. I don't know if it's like ASDA's car park or not. But it's where I used to work at that ASDA is where you had to go, I used to have to park my moped around there.

Right. But anyway. Oh, yeah. Leave your lights on, did you? That was like 17, Pete. Come on. What's wrong on that? It's illegal.

Enjoy the dogging. You stick with that here. 70 year on look. You're on a dogging. You can just watch. But should we not just normalize it? Clearly, so many people like doing it.

Can we not just normalize it, regulate it, tax it maybe? I don't know. Yeah. I just think that... If it's in Germany, you'd have to be a card holding member of a club. In the Rotary Club.

Yeah. I do sort of feel like it's like, it's a little bit like indie nights. Not as many people arriving as you think there is going to be. Do you know what I mean? I like this one thing. Not the case of my indie night. It's like this one thing you don't see as often anymore. People are into it, but there's just too many. There's too many for the amount of people are actually into it.

They should have just one big mega dogging festival. potentially. People don't want to be just doing it once a year, do they? It's a way of life, isn't it? No, it's a good point, actually, yeah. Yeah. It should be like the Ministry of Sound

just open all the time for whoever wants to go and dance. You can have a Glastonbury of the dogging scene, but people are still going to want to listen to music throughout the year. They want the look. Aren't they?

There's always going to be a place for the dog and dock. Those bands who play Glasgow they just disappear for the rest of the year. No, exactly. They're playing gigs everywhere, no.

You could have worked out. But maybe the ones who headlined the dogging festivals, you know, there could be a little blue plaque where they did their dogging their league dogging and the championship of you

have you personally witnessed any dogging in Tom 2 3 Island No I've never seen any witnessed any myself but apparently because it's kind of it's out of town it's over a bridge and it's effectively an island of mud

so enjoy that it always reminds me lots of aders kicking around yeah watch out Epping Forest is good for that as well it reminds me of that email that Alan Partridge reads out on mid-morning matters

when he talks about the kid, the bloke who falls in love with his old teacher and he describes how they meet and they meet in some they met in a wooded area

because the teacher was walking his dog and the young man was just looking for something. Anyway, what about this from Ray? We'll do this email from Rayfe. Hello to you, Rafe. He says,

highly compete, the highlight of my week generally occurs when Pete mentions some random social fad that he's taken a deep dive into him when Luke exclaims, what is this?

What is this? So in that spirit, I implore Peter to look into pheromone maxing. Do you know pheromone maxing, Peter? I presume get yourself nice and stinky so you can attract women. You presume correct. Young men are being encouraged

to skip showers, ditch deodorant, and extreme cases drink their own urine in order to maximize their attractiveness to the opposite sex. Now, I am not suggesting for one minute that either of us are experts in the opposite sex. No. Okay, but we are, you know...

Older men. With wives or common law wives in your case. Yeah. And we have had relationships in the past. We are parents. We have had some perhaps limited, but some success nevertheless. I've had my armpits laser off.

You have? Your armpit hair, not your armpits. No, I didn't. I had a shave the hair. Didn't, I didn't laser any of the hair. All right. Is the sweat molecule, molecules, molecules? But it's come back again, isn't it?

A little bit, but not as much as it used to. No. So I'm not suggesting I know more. than anyone else. But I, look, I have met a fair amount of women in my life. And not once, as any of them, even in passing, said, I like it when men, for example, skip showers, ditch deodorant, and drink their own piss.

That makes me more attracted to them. That last one is a bit too far. But I think people can sort of, you know, I've heard people sort of say, you know, I like the smell of, you know, someone when they've been working out or working or whatever. When you know them, surely. Exactly. So you're already, like, you're already attracted to them. Do you know what I mean? It's not like, pheromones, they do kind of, obviously, have a massive role.

But it's also just like, you know, you may as well say, you know, a lot of people want to fuck people who look like their parents. Do you know what I mean? Like, oh, so I'll just, I'll just look, try and look at the most like my parents. Where's that come from? That's what, that's what people say. Like you. So you want to try to look like your partner's dad as much as possible. That's how it works, yeah. And it's like a Frank Chambu. Yeah, as much as you can.

I look like my dad. Someone's been posting pictures of my dad's Navy career. Your dad looks like Markey Smith. It's great. It makes sure of Marky Smith and me. But similar vibe. Scruffy, curtain hair. I always got a tab in my hand, me.

Cigarette in their mouth. Cigrant in my mouth. But do you know what these kind of phenomenon, phenomena, whatever you're going to call it? Like, looks maxing, fucking whatever it is. It's all, my take on it is that it's all very easy. The act is repulsive, isn't it? Like the act that you're thinking about that is repulsive.

But it's all very easy to understand when you think of, when you put two and two together, I'll give these examples as well, when you take into account that a lot of these young men, this is sad, a lot of them, they probably went to school in COVID, and they don't really know anyone in real life.

So everything's done online. And the evidence for that would be, have you seen that clavicular guy in public? He's starting to look even, he's starting to look stranger stranger, isn't. He doesn't have to talk to people. The weirdest thing I've seen

when it relates to him recently, and he's this looks, Max, a guy that everyone probably knows now. He dances in a club like he thinks that's how humans dance. It's the weirdest thing, but it makes perfect sense when you realize that 85, 90% of these people's lives are all lived online.

And he's like 21. But I think we all, because when we hear about this guy, I just like, oh my God, the kids are doomed because they're obsessed with, you know, they're obsessed with, you know, they're just as fascinated as everyone else. They're just sort of like, you know, this guy,

this guy's a fucking idiot. Do you think he's, given the fact that he's not actually even 21 yet, do you think that he's being, he's actually being chewed up and eating up by modern society? Yeah, but it's a sympathy, yes, yes, but then you look at his bank account, you go,

maybe not, maybe not, maybe not there's that something that needs to be a, but does someone bank account, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, does it? If he straightens up and calms the fuck down, he'll have a nice little nest egg that's spent on meth though because he'll be addicted

to meth unfortunately that's the point isn't it you see him being I'm not I don't feel sorry for him because at the end of the day he's quite tall

he's quite handsome he's not tall is he that's the point you've been taken in by his hype maxis you've been taken in you've been taken in he's always behind a wall

on a pocket but you sort of think I think it's pretty tall but I think he he's apparently 5 foot 10 but he claims 6 feet oh right okay

yeah you're getting that leg length and surgery and stuff but yeah it's an interesting one but I think he probably is being taken advantage of but you can only help yourself even at that age you can only help yourself what's the advice that you would give

a younger Luke Moore about and I'll give a younger Pete Donaldson advice about how you might better present yourself to the fairer in our case or the opposite sex or same sex if you want I would shut the fuck up yeah yeah yeah is a shut the fuck up

No one cares. Yeah. No one gives you... Just shut up. No one cares what you haven't done. No one cares what you think. Just calm down. And that's not...

I was saying that as all the people are sort of finding... That's about me specifically. Yeah, it's about me going on. Just chill out. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. And maybe lift some weight to your skinny little fucking frame. That was not on my agenda at all.

I don't even remember even considering going to the gym until I was... No. I still don't really go. No. I just bought big jumpers. You were a... Pump up at one point. I was a pump up at one point.

Yeah. But then I was talking about this this morning. I was thinking, you know how everyone is, it's matcher and protein? What everyone's obsessed with this year? All people are doing is it are eating protein. And I don't know where creating fits in there. But when I was briefly, I missed a pump up for six months. I didn't take any supplements.

I didn't do any protein something. I think it's all a, I ate Chinese food and, you know, grab beer. I think it's, as ever. I mean, obviously, eating protein is important for rebuilding a muscle. when it also helps you digest things and that kind of stuff. There's always something new, isn't there? It's just a market. It's like, you know, everyone jumps on the bandwagon.

You know what Andros Townsend eats for his protein? Big lumps of parmesan cheese. I like that life. He just breaks open a parmesan cheese and says something like, no, it's just proper parmesan cheese, no additives, no weird chemicals, it's got 35 grams of protein per 100. Does me good, cheers.

Oh. Probably a heart attack, so you know. as a proper artery tighten I do like he's kind of avoided any right wing chat but as I said I think it's it's coded into that kind of life if you're eating steak

you know raw mints on a plane I think you eat raw mints all the time I do yeah but I'm after all this there wasn't a you know there wasn't a fucking economy for that people lost their mind over Andrewstowns and eating raw steak but really nice cuts of steak are quite famous aren't they for being able to be eating raw

He's buying them in America at the World Cup. Risky. Full of Clembruder. USD certified, fucked. Yeah, full of Clembruta. On board, yeah. Anyway, so,

um, yeah, so, Rafe just finishes by saying, this is the latest internet trend in the looks maxing phenomena, which promotes bone smashing and hard maxing, which is one of the first ones, which is hitting your face with a hammer.

Hard maxing. And hard maxing is using drugs to alter your body. I mean, the bone smashing thing is truly like, I mean, we are through the looking, as a species now.

You're just hitting yourself in the face with a hammer. Yeah. He didn't even use a little toffee hammer, which I thought would be more interesting. It made it look like

he's not thought it through. He's just using a normal hammer. Yeah. There should be at least a kind of medical hammer. A special medical hammer. You used to have a medical hammer for your knee.

No, they were tong. No, it was a little, it was a weird medical house. It was a tongue and a, it was a special hammer they would only use for that job. It looked like a little bit of bone

jammed into the top of it. Where did the medical hammer? months ago. They don't do that relief sex thing anymore do they? Bullshit. That's crap.

I think it's disappeared by the wayside. Anyway, Ray finishes by saying Why don't we knees max anymore? There's no scientific merit to any of this

which we can't know already. Why don't doctors hit knees? I'd love to know. I'd love to end the show with that. Yeah.

All right. I was trying, I asked, I typed into Google managers who have been given things in a press conference

for, a ramble recently. And Google AI just said, yes, Roy Hodgson was given a Warhammer 40,000 model in a press conference, right? Is it true? That seems like a strange thing to happen. No, it wasn't.

They just misinterpreted a humorous athletic girl mince episode where they talked about how much Roy Hodgson loves Warhammer. Oh, of course, yeah. And so like, and so. it's just a waste of everyone's fucking time. Yes, they do use a rubber tool called a reflex hammer to tap your knee and test your nervous system. I typed him, why don't doctors check your reflex

because every time you go to the doctor? Every time. I'm having a heart attack. It's a valuable service. How could you just throws a ball at your head? Think fast. Right, we'll be back next time. Hello, Lou Gechot.

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