The Luke and Pete Show - Donny D. Dawg Pilot Boy

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

Pete insists that Phil Collins and Bob Hoskins are one in the same but Luke's not having any of it. Luke reveals his ultimate goal is to star as Fagin in Oliver on the West End. Elsewhere we talk about a survey that concluded life was better in the 17th century...Plus Luke reviews a new movie and Pete goes to pilot school!Want to get in touch with the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luke and Pete show I'm Pete Donaldson and this is Monday the 22nd of April and it's good to talk How you doing Lucky Mo, you alright? Arthur Shelby slash Bob Hoskins good to hear it Arthur Shelby

Is Bob Hoskins still with us? No, he died I like Bob Hoskins If it news to No, he died. I like Bob Hoskins. He was a... If it news to him, he's 71 and doing well. No, he died 10 years ago. Yeah, I know he did, you bastard. Don't trick me.

Legend though, Bob, wasn't he? It was a good... I get him confused. Was he in... Was he Buster? Or was that Phil Collins? I think he might have been Philil collins and you've been one of the serious one of the two is that a genuine question one of the two throws a bin through a window and i may have i will have mentioned this before on the show

but one of the two either phil collins or um bob hoskins throws a bin through a window. We've mentioned this all before because I'm obsessed with that computer I had at school. But you press the button and Bob Hoskins would appear. So it was Phil Collins that was in Buster, wasn't it?

Yes. I don't think it's a household Yes. I don't think it's a household name. I don't think Buster's no one's sort of clamouring for a remake of Buster are they?

I don't know what Buster apart from him throwing a bin through a window. I don't know what Buster's game was. Phil Collins is a glazer.

He's an actor of various repute. I mean he's actually a legitimate actor. Right. So I'm not having a pop at him. I haven't seen Buster since... I don't know if I've ever seen it.

It's a film from the 80s. Right. But I don't think anyone's thinking he's in the same category of actor as fucking Bob Hoskins. Yeah, but it was a similar kind of vibe, though, wasn't it? Yeah. Do you not think? I mean, similar sort of like naughty boys or something.

Oh, good boys. I've never seen the film so oh they're both in the film Hook aren't they are they yeah Phil Collins

has got a cameo in Hook and Bob Hoskins obviously plays Smee Smee does yeah yeah

maybe right okay early acting roles yeah so he was he had a bit of training back in the day he played Artful Dodger

in Oliver on the West End. Do you know what? That'd be good for one career, wouldn't it? That was one of my all-time ambitions was to be in Oliver in the West End. This is the first we're hearing about this. No, I've told everyone.

I've told you a million times. Right. You really wanted to be Oliver? Fagin. Oh, you wanted to be Fag are you going to be fake yeah you're you're not old enough yet luke the dream is still alive well that's why the dream was still there but they've changed the role now because obviously it's hugely problematic yeah but when i was a kid i didn't know anything about that stuff i just thought he's a brilliant character yeah and um

i love the song because he shoplifted and had loads of friends. Yeah, kind of. Employees. Yeah, whereas I just shoplifted and had no friends. No, if you watch the scenes that Ron Moody, so the Ron Moody and Oliver Reed version of Oliver in the 60s, a brilliant film, and the scenes that Ron Moody plays Fagin in, they're fucking unbelievably good.

If you've not seen it, go back and watch it. The scenes are brilliantly choreographed, brilliantly acted. The music's amazing. And I just absolutely loved it as a kid. I don't know why. I just really liked it,

even though it came out like 15 years before I was even born. I just used to like it. Ollie Reed is, was in that role, just absolutely, the presence was just like, he's so scary.

Who'd you get in mixed up with? Ross Stewart? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You know Oliver E when he comes on stage and he boots a ball into the crowd. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then goes. Love Celtic. Yeah. Actually, to be fair, Oliver E did do a bit of that. You've just done that. He did do that, yeah. If he had a football,

he would have kicked it into the crowd at Wogan. I love some of the... I know it's obviously... He's clearly a very problematic character, but I love some of the stories about Oliver Reed. What a fucking legend. Right.

I read a book called Hellraisers about Oliver Reed and I think Peter O'Toole. It's actually... The book was actually shit, but the subject matter... Peter O'Toole looked terribly unwell. Oh, yeah. He just always looked like he was having a bad time with things.

But at least they're basically alcoholics, aren't they? They have illness. They're absolutely riddled with alcoholism. Yeah. But back in the day, that stuff was kind of celebrated as like the old bon vivant, wasn't it? Yeah. Wouldn't be now, though, would it?

Oh, no. It really, really wouldn't. Did people celebrate Pete Doherty when he was getting involved with all that stuff? Oh, yeah, massively. So not much has changed then? No, not really oh by the way

Libertines got the number one album didn't they is that an achievement anymore but yeah I mean fair play I mean to be fair if you like the Libertines

you'll like the new album because it's very very Libertines-y is it like a bunch of guys doing a tribute to the Libertines it's like I mean the drums

sound like they're kicking a you know it's like kicking a bin down some stairs it's really kind like i mean the drums sound like um they're kicking a you know it's like kicking a bin down some stairs like it's really kind of loose and kind of produced that way there's a new um speaking of that era of music a new amy winos documentary out yeah i saw i've seen it on the side of the bus i often think to myself what would libertines be like if it was pop punk don't look back into the sun that's all tiktok is to me yeah that is literally all the thing about people who sort of parody um blink 182 on on online uh and people who sort of talk about being emo um their only references where are you that's the only thing they ever say yeah

to sort of say hey i'm i'm parodying emo and stuff um it is worth having a look at a snl sketch and you don't normally say that because they can be quite bitty and uh run way too long but there is a lovely ryan gosling and i think the block out of it's always sunny charlie day is it um right i don one. Then as Beavis and Butthead on SNL recently. That's quite meta. It is quite meta. Ryan, Ryan?

Yeah, right, yeah, him. He has the sort of blonde, but I'd never heard it sort of described like that, but Beavis does have a blonde, is it Pompadour? No, is it Pompadour? What's that stupid hair

that the Reesers have? No, is it pompadour? What's that stupid hair that... You're looking at one. ...that the Reese's have? No, but like it's really... It sort of sticks... It's a bouffant, isn't it? It's like a bouffant.

Like a bouffant. Like a pompadour. Pompadour? Yeah, I know what you mean. I really like hearing you try and say that word, but I know what you mean. Pompadour.

What's the pompadour... Pompadour centre. No, what's that? What am I thinking of? Pompadou centre. Pompadou, pompadour. Pompadou centre. Pompadour's... Pompadour Centre. No, what's that? What am I thinking of? Pompadou Centre. Pompadou, Pompadour. Pompadou Centre. Pompadour the hair.

I'm not interrupting the enemy when he's making a mistake. You carry on. Pommid's hair lacquer, innit? Hair grease. Yeah. Pompadour. On behalf of the listenership, I feel like you might have derailed yourself a little bit.

Anyway, he's got, like, sort of pointy hair at the front. And it is like a proper kind of, like, kind of 1950s sort of greaser hair, but it's blonde. It's absolutely disgusting. I used to, my friend Dave Watson, my best friend growing up, we used to hang around together all the time.

We used to live on the same street. And he was, he had, like, dark hair and obviously I had blonde hair. And my dad always used to, and his dad used to call it Beavis and Byers. Nice, I like it. Pete, I want to bring to the table something that really, fucking really made me laugh this morning.

So I don't know why you would, but do you follow the polling account YouGov on Twitter? No, because YouGov, they're too wide ranging they get involved in any old fucking scuffle don't they so they're obviously for those people outside of the UK do you like cheese vote

yeah exactly they're a British surveying and polling company so they're basically British equivalent of Gallup I guess in the US but anyway they do polls and it's quite interesting and I believe they are quite rigorous polls and that they're properly um what's it called um reference reference yeah all that kind of stuff but um there was an amazing one done i saw the other day and i was like it's done the other day but i saw it this morning and it was about um british people who say different eras were better than the current day, right?

So, for example, the options were life was better then, things were about the same, life is better now, and don't know, right? Right. So you give them a decade and you say the 1990s, right? And 57% of people said life was better then, and 18% of people said life is better now. So far, so normal. It's fucking usual nostalgic shit, right? Fine. said life was better then and 18 of people said life is better now so far so normal like it's

fucking usual nostalgic shit right fine yeah right it just goes on and on and on to the point where they surveyed these people and six percent of people said that life was better in the 17th century right how many percentage six percent six percent what do they think the 17th century was Right How many was that percentage? 6% 6% What do they think The 17th century was? Life expectancy of 36 It's just Brexit types

Going way too far isn't it Good god Oh yeah I tell you what There weren't any fucking There weren't any women Telling me what to do Were there? Before carbolic soap

Was invented Good god Yeah Fucking idiots I don't think we could do without microbiology, thank you very much. Oh, you know,

if I have a wart on my hand, I just go to the local barber surgeon and he chops off my hand. Brilliant. Yeah, so... We used to be a real country. There are probably people around our age

who think life was better in the 90s, fair enough. Cultural touchstones and, you know, maybe people were a little bit more optimistic because they were younger and a lot of prospects and stuff makes sense yeah i don't know if it does make sense to say that the 17th century which you couldn't have possibly experienced and where your your life expectancy means that you would be

fucking dead before you could even do the survey is necessarily a good thing the i think the only thing people wanted back then was more space didn didn't they? That was their big thing. They just wanted spice. 3% of people voted that things are about the same than they were in the 17th century. Well, I think that's closer to the Marxist ones. But yeah, I mean, again, life expectancy is coming right down there. 1940s, Europe completely beset with war a world war

millions of people dying 6% again life is better then 3% things are about the same things are about the same as they were in the 1940s

where's Groning's house it's in bits it's just in bits I remember when I studied history one of the professors telling us that the worst time

worst period in history for crime in London was you in the blitz yeah cuz people just on the Rob and everyone thinks it was like the everyone by it rather it right around there was great absolute bollocks people fucking helping themselves the lights are all out we want doing what you want yeah they just stand by the door with a big billy club

brilliant absolutely brilliant everyone forgets all that don't they grandmother forgets that I don't remember it because I'm not old enough no

Peter speaking of wars I went to go and see that new Alex Garland movie as well oh which one's that one Civil War it's called okay yeah good do you know who Alex do you know who Alex Garland is Oh, which one's that one? Civil War, it's called. Okay, yeah, good.

Do you know who Alex Garland is? I can't remember. Okay, do you know who Phil Collins is? Yeah, just about. So Phil Collins wrote... Terrible. Alex Garland did Ex Machina. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, you did speak about this one,

that you fancy... And Annihilation, and he wrote The Beach, and 28 Days Later as well. Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, you did speak about this one that you fancy. And Annihilation, and he wrote The Beach, and 28 Days Later as well. Yes, okay. Civil War is about four journalists, a couple of photojournalists and a couple of written journalists

who are crossing various parts of the United States in the near future, a dystopian near future where the US has descended into civil war because a Trump-like president has given himself a third term and the whole thing's kicked off.

Oh. And it's really fucking gritty and really, really tough. But it's a brilliant film and I'd recommend a watch. Can I stream it? I don't know. I watched it at the cinema.

So call me a bluff old traditionalist, but I think you probably, when it at the cinema so call me a bluff old traditionalist but I didn't I think you probably when it comes on to streaming you could easily watch it on stream

but it's got a nothing's added by enjoying it in the cinema I wouldn't say so I watched it at IMAX so it's obviously good but it's got a delicious

cameo from Jesse Plemons in it who is very sinister which one's Jesse Plemons now? For fuck's sake. What? People might not know.

It's the guy who's placed hard in Breaking Bad. Meth Damon. Yes. Okay. Right. I'm there. I'm in.

I am connected. I think he might be in a relationship with Kirsten Dunst who plays the female lead in it. Oh, that's quite sweet. Yeah. So, well worth a watch anyway.

I thought some of the reviews were quite confusing because some of the reviews said that oh alex garland doesn't seek to blame one side or the other for the civil war but actually i didn't take that impression from it at all i thought it was very clearly that it was a demagogue that had done it and it was like kind of based on trump nick offerman plays the president right okay which is quite interesting nice okay um but anyway the whole point the whole point is that they're prominent photojournalists and journalists for big publications and they're trying to get the last interview with the president of the united states before this country falls to a civil war basically right um but it's basically as um you know like in dystopian near future films

where the country of the world has descended and it's all about kind of you know lawlessness and bands of roving fucking criminals

it's basically that kind of vibe but it's very good I fancy that yeah it's interesting because it kind of asks some interesting

questions about like the role of journalism and all of this right is the argument that you know if you're a photo journalist is the argument that you'll if you're a photo journalist is the argument you just take the photos you can take in the most impactful way possible and let

other people make their assessments or are you supposed to be involved yourself you know and how do you kind of separate yourself out from the trauma of it and all that kind of thing it's good give it a bash mate that i'll give it a bash i'll get a bash the best i can um i really want to watch um there's a video game adaptation of the video game Fallout. Oh yeah, I've seen the advert for that. And I'm trying to

get certain other people in my home to watch it. I'll get there, I reckon. Why don't you just watch it on your own? Because I don't, I always think that's a bit of a waste of time.

I don't know why. I can't get it in my head really. Other people I know just have like, you let one thing, I let the other. See bit of a waste of time. I don't know why. I can't get it in my head, really. Other people I know just have, like, you let one thing, I let the other. See you at 10pm for bed. You know what I mean? The Wi-Fi I have access to and I,

there'll be shows we'll watch together and shows that we'll grab an episode of when the other one isn't around or they're in bed or whatever. Yeah. I just always, what I do is I always just sort of think, yeah, I'll do that.

And then when I've got a bit of free time I just skitter about just looking at the water got a million different things to sort of do you do that thing where you start to tell yourself I've only got like

a few hours of free time I better not waste it and you get anxious about wasting it and it's gone and then it's gone it's absolutely gone and then you just

spend your time just looking at DIY tutorials on YouTube and you're like well you haven't even done the DIY just watched the tutorial

do you know what I spend my time doing like tidying up and getting the space into a position that I want it in so I can relax and then the relax time's over it all gets messed up again because my son wakes up or something yeah that's what I do um Peter let's take a break when we come back um there is a uh a pre-promoted and already trailed email from Pilot Neil that I'm going to read to you, followed by some pretty interesting insight into the creator of Game of Thrones, George R.R. Martin.

Something for everyone. PN News, up next. Where are you? That was the ads. It's back with Luke and Pete Shaw. Welcome. I like that. I don't know whether the audio of... Yeah, I think it's straight after we say goodbye's show welcome I like that I don't know whether the audio of yeah I think it's

straight after we say goodbye on the first half of the show you hear the A-cast and then it goes in the ad break doesn't it I think they should have one at the end as well hi you're back again

no it should be the other way it should be the different tone shouldn't it it should go the opposite tone what what

like USB yeah I used to play that on the radio, the USB out noise to annoy people. Jesus. Don't wet that anymore. Because if you hear that noise,

you're like, oh, what's happened? You know what I mean? It's good. It's a good idea. Or the old Windows, do-do-do-do-do, like sort of shut down noise.

You're in trouble for that, no? Nah. I thought I absolutely had some pretty strict rules about the things you could and couldn't say. Mate, I'm the bad boy of radio. Is that why you don't work anymore?

Yeah. I don't work anymore. All right then, let's do some emails for crying out loud and you've been trailing this bloody email from bloody Pilot Neil

who's returning over the horizon guided by his ILS system into the runway one of the Luke and Pete show. Very nice this is surprisingly similar to the email I did on Thursday but it's from a completely different person so bear with us. So Pilot

Neil, long time friend of LAPS a LAPS pal if you like he says dear Luke and Pete a quick email to share a story that I think lies at the intersection of a number of recent LMP topics and that might spur further discussion on the matters in hand. So it starts even similarly to the other one.

Exactly, yeah. Earlier this year, I attended a round of the European Veterans Fencing Championship in Guildford. Okay, right. Great start. It is a good start. Really, really good start, actually. Not as a competitor, I hasten to add. A friend of mine had travelled across from Holland

to take part and I had agreed to haul myself out of bed early one weekend to go and watch him. I was disappointed to learn the veteran component of the name refers to the age of the participants and not to any previous experience of actual military swordsmanship, but it was if nothing a

different a different way to spend a sunday morning as the competition was drawing to a close and i was standing around with my brain in neutral waiting for my mate to pack all his gear away a group of about five very ebullient germans grabbed me and eagerly asked me to take a picture of them with their arms around the shoulders of a much smaller figure in a red beanie who had obviously been taken part in the fencing and was now trying to make his way quickly to the exit. This somewhat diminutive and might I venture hobgoblin-esque figure seemed a bit reluctant to stop and have a photo with this loud group of middle-aged men in white cod pieces, but appeared to weigh up the options and decided that the most expeditious way to extricate himself was to force a smile,

have a quick snapshot and get out of there. It seemed a bit strange that the German fencers were so keen to have a photo with this anonymous swordsman, but I presumed he must have been an ex-Olympian or something. So I gave the phone back and then had a closer look at the object of her adulation, who was now making a smart exit from the gin. It was then that I saw the name Bruce Dickinson written on blue barrow on the large sports bag that he was pulling along behind him.

Yes, it was indeed the Iron Maiden front man, and now, as I vaguely remember, expert fencer. Ah, yes. It was a bit of a disappointment to see the man behind Trooper Beer more closely resemble Pete's hobgoblin friend from XFM, but fair enough, it was a Sunday morning Guildford Leisure Centre. Personally, I was kicking myself for not taking the opportunity You're a pilot. You didn't even ask Bruce about his piloting. No, you could have said,

hey, you can be pilot flying and I'll be navigating or doing all the button pressing and stuff. Takes two doesn't it? Yeah it takes two. Because you never talk about his friend his other guy. There's another pilot in that thing. Maybe he's really shy so flying with Bruce Dickens is like the expert. Maybe it's Eddie.

Could be. Maybe Eddie is pilot navigating. It's ideal for him to have someone to take all the attention away. He can just get on with his job of just being a really great first officer

yeah exactly exactly and you know he can talk to the cabin crew and stuff like that fascinating absolutely fascinating

do you think so one thing remember on Thursday's show you talked about being a pilot and you reckon you could do it because of all the

videos you've watched and stuff yeah I had to think about it and I thought to myself the biggest challenge for you would be being able to confidently do the thing over the pa to the passengers yeah i wouldn't even know you're a broadcaster people don't need this uh delivery this voice how would you do it

all right um we're gonna go real high in the sky. No, do it serious. I really want to hear you do it serious. All right. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. It's 2024. You don't need to give the year. Straight away, there's question marks.

People are like, is this a time travel device? People may not regard themselves as ladies and gentlemen, and I'm just trying to make people who don't feel comfortable in the vestibule or in their seats. So what are you going to say instead then? Good morning, everyone. I am Pilot Pete. Pilot Pete doesn't sound right.

It sounds bad. It sounds like a fucking video game character. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm Pilot Donaldson, flying today on your London standstead to... Jamaica. You need to standstead to Jamaica. You need to know that bit. Jamaica.

Crucial. We're flying to the Caribbean today. We're going to escalate now. We're going to climb it. What's the word for accelerate? Do they have a script? Could you ask for a script, do you reckon? What's the when you go up? That's the thing? Could you ask for a script, do you reckon? What's the, when you go up?

It's the, that's the thing, isn't it? When pilots would talk to each other, they're very secure and precise because you've only got a limited amount of time to talk to the people down on the ground to sort of go, you know, can you give me a, you know, can you give me a bearing and stuff like that? And they've got to be very precise and very specific.

Even people who English are... I'm worse than... We'd climb to a... Where's the thing? Cruising altitude. Cruising altitude of, I don't know, 10,000 feet? Doesn't seem high enough, does it? Three miles?

Yeah, it doesn't seem high enough. You wouldn't use miles, would you? Yeah, yeah. No. 100,000 miles. 100,000 feet. No, that's too high. Where we will be.

It's way too high. You're never going to be dead I don't after a certain distance 30,000 probably after 5 foot 8 I've no idea 35,000 feet

right okay and we will be doing that for a bit then we'll stop doing that I will I will begin the glide

slope what did you just say ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard this British Airways service. Just relax. I mean, I wouldn't be going to Stansted to Jamaica. I don't think they'd really do that. They wouldn't say Jamaica.

They would say the airport, the town. All right. What's the one in Cape Verde? Dr. Tambo. I think it's Dr. Tambo Airport. We're going to Dr. Tambo's airport. Sounds like a children's TV show destination, doesn't it? Dr. Tambo Airport. We're going to Dr. Tambo's airport. Sounds like a children's TV show destination, doesn't it? Dr. Tambo.

Dr. Tambo's airport. Dr. Tambo's airport. We're going to be kicking it real high in the sky. We're going to be hanging out in the sky for a bit. Would you try and be cool? Would you try and do a couple of little gags in there? I don't know. Are you going to introduce your first officer or not?

I'm going to sound... I'm here with First Officer Luke Moore. He's crying. He doesn't know how we got here. It's a bad dream for him. He's simply not qualified. He's simply not qualified for any of this. I might let him have a go for a bit.

So he's just going to be keeping an eye on the picture of the plane on the screen. ILS. I think that's ILS, isn't it? No't that ils isn't that the thing i think we've established you don't quite have the confidence all right fine um i have one more go it's a start from the top i have one more go at it good morning ladies and gentlemen do you know what's good flying do you know who's going to be doing it today? Donny D, Dog Pilot Boy. Right? We're going to be up there for a bit. We're going to be down there. You're going to be having a Chianti in Seville.

That's Italian. You're going to be having a Chianti in Italy very, very soon indeed. Where on the boot are we going to be landing? Well, it depends on a lot of factors, to be quite frank. We might run out. I didn't look at the clipboard that closely. I don't know whether we've got enough petrol. We might end up in Geneva. Hey, but I'll do my best.

I promise you. And you can't say I'll do my best. Can we shake hands now on somewhere in Italy? Yeah. Can we shake hands now? We ain't going to be ending up in the sky forever. All right? Yeah.

And that's all you have. Ask me no questions. I'll tell you no lies. We are not going to be in the sky forever. That will be a weird situation to be in. We're going to end up on the sky forever. All right? Yeah. And that's all you have. Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies, right? We are not going to be in the sky forever. That will be a weird situation to be in. We're going to end up

on the ground, potentially in the ground, very, very soon indeed. But for now, sit back. Don't say in the ground. Sit back, relax,

and enjoy so many seasons of Seinfeld. So many seasons. Not on a short haul. All right. If you've put them on your iPad, you can watch some Seinfeld so many seasons not on a short haul alright if you've put them on your iPad you can watch them Seinfeld you can do that

I give you part carte blanche unless you're in exit row you've got to get up and go in the cabin storage and pull your iPad out but you can't do it until we are airborne and I've turned the fucking

seatbelt light off alright yeah and if I see any of you up there I'm just relinquishing controls Can't do it until we are airborne and I've turned the fucking seatbelt light off. All right? Yeah. And if I see any of you up there, I'm just relinquishing controls. I'm not even telling the first officer he's going to be pilot flying. I'm just going to be like, mate, Luke, I'm out of here. I've got to kick some air.

And I'm going to get out and run down the fucking, just start fucking wailing. If people have got their iPads out before I've got the seatbelt thing off, we might still be climbing at that point. I don't know. Is that why the door of that Boeing 737 Max came off? Yeah, I kicked it open.

I've had a punch up like John McClane. I kicked it, yeah, like two counts. I think you definitely, I'll take back what I said, I reckon you definitely better pull that off.

Yeah, alright. No problem. Let's finish with an email from Brogan. Partly because his name's Brogan. I don't think we've had an email from someone called Brogan. Heartbreak, hi, he's back. What's that got to do with it?

Because Brogan sounds a bit like Borgan, which is an insult in, I think, is it like a chav in Australia, I think? Yeah, Bogan is, yeah. Bogan, yeah. They've not, I don't think they've used the excellent theme tune for the next season. I don't think I've ever watched Heartbreak Heart, which is weird. I don't think they've used the excellent theme tune for the next season. I don't think I've ever watched Heartbreak Heart, which is weird.

I don't think anybody did, but it was just an offensive little inner city youths doing stuff. But the theme tune was absolutely banging. Should have been right in the target audience. I might listen to the theme tune after we've done this. Anyway, Brogan says, hi, boys. Brogan here from San Diego, California. I have some potential insider information for you regarding the Game of Thrones chat from last Monday's episode.

Granted, my scoop is from about seven years ago, and things could have changed since then, but anyway. In my junior year of high school, which is the equivalent of year 11 in the UK, I took a newly created class called Modern Epic. In short, we read the Song of Ice and Fire books, which, of course, the the book series that game of thrones is based on by george rr martin and then we watched lord of the rings movies on

fridays it was a pretty sweet gig in my senior year i learned that george rr martin the writer of said books would actually be coming around to the current class which i then weaseled my way into and we chatted with him for about three hours absorbing all that's why he's not writing the books i know that's why he doesn't have time to write the books he's pissing about in schools visiting schools yeah broken says one of the most groundbreaking things we learned was related to the show and the future books and if they would have the same ending um the show was in about season five or six at the time at this point the show and books had already diverged a little but the major bits were the same we learned from george that he gave the major plot points to the show ending was of his making or not.

Regarding the books, he said he really disliked writing them at that point, finding his other works to be much more interesting and fulfilling for him. However, he did still intend to finish them regardless. He also writes everything on a special computer from the 80s that doesn't have any internet capabilities so no one can hack his shit i hope this has been enlightening if i wasn't supposed to share any of this george your lawyers hopefully don't try too hard to find me um have a great rest of the week yours faithfully brogan when we wrote our book pete you used an 80s computer so you couldn't get distracted by the internet is that right uh i think i wrote one chapter on the um our house free write system uh which is like a kind of it's like an 80s word

processor for absolute dickhead hipsters um which i stuck on ebay not that long ago actually uh there's a lot of crap in my cabin i was like sticking everything i need back home else with it um and made an astonishingly small amount of money from it. Right. How much did you pay for it? But it was, I think it was like 400 quid. What a waste of money. Yeah. What a dickhead. Absolute dickhead.

And don't forget, though, you made probably at least... 300 pounds on the book? Nah. Nowhere near. Nah. Anyway, it's mad that George R.R. Martin visited a broken school, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

Again, he just needs to be, he needs to keep his, it's like, I guess it's mad that George RR Martin visited a Brogan school isn't it yeah again he just needs to be he needs to keep his it's like I guess it's it's like DIY isn't it really it's like you've got something

that you said you're going to do and then you don't end up doing it because you just you'll just do anything apart from that I think he's got

on his own head about it hasn't he yeah he's telling himself that he's not having fun so he's not having fun. Exactly. Gotta choose your attitude, George. Exactly. Anyway, thanks to Brogan and to everyone else

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