The Luke and Pete Show - Don’t drink your dad’s Prime

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

Remember Geordie Racer? It’s literally a programme about racing pigeons that ran for two months on BBC2. TV was mad in the 80s.Pete tells us about that on today’s show and, leaning into the 80s theme, Luke reminisces about his memories of playing the video game Exile growing up. Plus, a listener explains how he's stopped kids in his local area drinking Prime.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow.We're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Not the newspaper. No. No. They shouldn't have. The celestial body at the centre of this solar system that we call home. Yes. And Mars milk. Oh, I'll tell you what, it's been ages since you mentioned Mars milk.

Your energy is so Mars milk energy, it's unbelievable. It's like if a chocolate bar had done a sick in a carton. There's loads of boys I knew at school who were just big Mars milk kids. You are definitely one of them.

If I could choose to have, out of my mum's teat, Mars milk coming out, that is definitely what I would require. It would explain a lot. If I would have the choice, it would certainly explain my teeth. But yeah, like,

you just don't see Mars milk anymore. Do they even make it? I don't know. I was never really, I'm not really a chocolate flavoured kind of person, so I would never have got stuck in. Honestly, I like chocolate, but I don't really like chocolate flavflavoured kind of person, so I would never have got stuck in. Honestly, I like chocolate,

but I don't really like chocolate-flavoured things. Right. I mean, there's still some chocolate in a Mars milk, isn't there? I mean, there's the... Listen to what I'm saying to you. Right. I like chocolate. I don't like chocolate-flavoured things. What's the difference?

I mean, chocolate is a chocolate-flavoured thing, you absolute melt. With this one more time, okay? Right. I'm only joking. I don't know, I never really got into it. Do you know what I used to love? I used to love milkshakes, but I used to love really,

because back when we were growing up, Peter, there was only really strawberry chocolate banana. That's your lot. That's your lot. And also you would, and when McDonald's turned up in my town, it was like, oh, milkshakes have tiny fragments of ice in it to make it really thick. They were really thick, weren't they, the McDonald's ones back in the day? I would only ever go with strawberry and banana.

I know some people are going to email in now and go, what about vanilla? Vanilla came later. Okay, don't step to us on this. You're obviously younger. It was Nesquik or nothing, wasn't it, back in the day? There's the big yellow cartons. Up until quite recently, I used to love was Nesquik or nothing wasn't it back in the day there's the big yellow up until quite recently I used to love a Nesquik yeah I mean you you you sort of see um when you when we go down to um Southend there's a big um there's a big ice cream proprietor in in Southend and they're called Rossi's I think it was related to the Rossi out of um status quo I think

Francis Rossi yeah Francis Rossi, yeah? Francis Rossi. And it's like a brand in Essex that everyone talks about being absolute quality. And you have it and you're like, I mean, it's just fucking ice cream. It's just local brands that people really hang their hat on are always very underwhelming, aren't they? Yeah. So the one near where we grew up was called Minghella's

and it's actually the same family as Anthony Mingela right okay yeah who um obviously directed the English Patient some other movies Oscar winning director and when Portsmouth got promoted to the Premier League right when they knew they were being promoted to the Premier League in 2003 I think they had a final home game of the season yeah Anthony Mingela Anthony Mingela right the very earnest Oscar winning-winning film director came down to the local radio station just did co-commentary on the game nice i like that it was crazy but anyway he's um his family run the ice cream places down uh near where i grew up um speaking of francis rossi by the way do you know that um his nickname is Goma, which stands for the Grand Old Man of Rock.

I mean, really? Hang on. Goma. Grand Old Man Goma. I guess it's Goma. Goma. Goma. Right.

Okay. Yeah. Which I thought was the woman that the Sopranos went out with on Friday nights. Yeah. Rossi died, didn't he? The other one's still alive. One of them's dead. Reverse it, mate. Reverse he? The other one's still alive. One of them's dead. Reverse that opinion.

Rossi's still alive? Correct. Right, okay. Because Rossi's the one that did this chord. Hang on, hang on. I'm going to do it on the right. Na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na. They both did that.

That's their thing. Yeah, which is the power chord with the little seventh going, na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na. Yeah, it's just basically 12-bar blues, basically. But remember that Status... Oh, you won't remember this, because obviously neither of us were around,

but Status Quo's first single was actually really interestingly psychedelic. Right, yeah. I love those bands that kind of change, like, I don't know, Genesis, Fleetwood Mac. They start as one thing and then they sort of move on. Yeah, I'd have that. They started as a rap trio.

Yeah, Pink Floyd were famously a jazz rap hybrid trio. Yeah, did the record Three Feet High and Rising. Which they all like. Back in the day times, I've started the day by there's a guy

on Twitter that I quite like called Pablo. His vault of horrors he finds like old 80s TV shows in the UK that are just absolutely rank and there's a clip

from Geordie Racer do you remember Geordie Racer in the 80s so I do remember it by name but I don't believe I ever partook

it was a pre kind of biker growth TV show and TV was quite regional back then wasn't it? It was. Well, I think that's where you got your funding from.

But I think Geordie Racer made, because it was kind of part of the BBC2 educational thread. I think it was part of the BBC, I think, oh, it might have been Tiny's. It was part of, I'm fairly certain it was still part of the BBC's educational thread.

And it was about a uh a pigeon uh racing family or something and and i think there was some kind of people listening to this are not going to fucking believe no athletics capacity to it as well but it was all very kind of like safe and nice and stuff like that but there was a lovely clip of uh of spuggy not the same spuggy that was in biker Grove, again, very regional, very Britain. They go, he says, Spuggy finds himself

a stotty and cuts it up to relax. And it's just like having a big bit of bread to relax. And Spuggy means sparrow, right? And stotty means

big bit of bread. Big bit of bread. Just having bit of bread just having a big bun a big bun to calm yourself down it's just wonderfully quiet it's like that meme that went viral recently of a guy saying that he was angry or something

texting his mum that he's angry and she replies saying go and sit outside and have a banana it's good advice I think I think it is great advice but it's not a thing is it it's that it's that it's that um one that i sent you where it's uh where it's somebody going i'm having an i'm having an anxiety attack dad can you can you ring me and he just replies with no and then a picture of a four by four at a dealership going, I'm going to lowball this guy. Yeah, I'm going to lowball this guy, lol. Great dad behaviour.

Great dad behaviour. But yeah, I think sometimes you need that. I think you're sometimes like, fuck you. I'm going to lowball a guy at a dealership. You kind of need someone going, there's something else going on in the world. You don't have to intellectualise or high-mind everything. some if you have i do think there's a serious point fuck off yeah which is like if you're having a shitty day it might sometimes just be a shitty day yeah and maybe

you do go fishing with your dad you know and he might not want you there yeah um um what i liked about the um uh compendium of geordie Racer videos that Pablo found, literally the first scene, right? They're going to a radio station. They're meeting a radio DJ. You Google that radio DJ. He's a convicted sex offender for taking pictures of children. It's television.

He's a radio DJ from the 80s, Pete, so we'll take that as read. He wasn't even playing the same character as his name. He wasn't playing himself. He was playing another character that had a different name. That's how they get you. That is how they get you. That's how they get you.

Speaking of these kind of children's TV shows isn't it crazy how much of a cultural impact they've had? Because Geordie Racer, for example, because I wouldn't have watched it, I don't think I've ever seen it, but I know what it is.

It's part of the cultural landscape of people of our generation. And when you were just talking about that, I looked it up on Wikipedia. It only ran for two months in 1988. That's amazing. Because they repeated shows so much, you know what I mean?

Yeah, and then Ulysses 31, which is the one I always remember, which is kind of this weird... Less educational. French-Japanese kind of... Well, you say that, but it's based on the Odyssey of Homer and stuff like that, I think.

Yeah, when they all went to space and floated around yeah it's crazy yeah yeah crazy that only ran for five months in 1981 1982

yeah I think about it all the time I bet it was because it had a kick-ass soundtrack I bet it just had I bet it just

because it had 50 episodes or something I bet they just absolutely bashed that out it's weird isn't it yeah because if we got

like a really legit kind of anime from like the 80s that the Japanese made, like we just got these kind of weird kind of French-Korean, Japanese sort of, you know, dog-tanion-y jobs that were kind of like... Just jobs. Yeah, it's obviously done, but like really poorly done,

you know, a Canal Pleu joint with whoever was releasing it with Granada Television. It's all just a big mess. When I was a kid and Dogtania and the Three Muskerhounds would come on TV, my mum says that she used to have to time it. I used to love watching it as a kid. It was one of my favourite shows as a toddler.

But she used to have to time it to bring me into the room with the tv on as the show started and miss the opening scenes the opening credits and the opening montage because i always used to make me cry oh because i think i think doltea leaves his family or something at the start that's very sweet yeah but the musk hounds are always ready they are you can go back they are you can go back um speaking of that because when i said all these cultural impact of these shows that don't really you know didn't really stick around for too long part of it is surely because there was nothing else to do right yeah so it was a scarcity of like product basically there's a scarcity product and if you're a tv controller you would take any old shit and put it on and go,

we just need fucking content. Imagine how much content. There's four channels now. Fucking four. Give me content. Yeah. You don't put any old nonsense on and repeat it. One of the things that's going to sort of slightly relate to this,

and I was talking to you about this the other day on WhatsApp, is the video game from 1988 called Exile, exile right i know you weren't that aware of it oh were you aware of what you hadn't played i was aware i was aware of people uh having a distinct like love for it i think back in the day yeah so it was a massively um important game in my childhood and um the reason i came to revisit it and i'll tell you a bit about it in a minute but the reason i came to revisit it is because my uncle who was really into um video gaming and was one of the kind of that generation of guys who used to be around video games when they first came up so it was kind of a contemporary in a way although he didn't make a real big

contribution in terms of development of games but he was a contemporary in terms of the correspondence and the um you know the scene that some of these guys who were developing these kind of quite mind-blowing futuristic and ahead of their time video games and he introduced me to exile when i was like seven or eight years old um and i i recently found uh because he sadly my uncle passed away last year, late last year, and I was going through all this stuff and I found some stuff which gave me some memories of this game, Exile, which was an incredible game. And there's a playthrough of it on YouTube, which is about three and a half hours long in total. I've been watching almost four hours long in total, which I've been watching in phases.

But when I told you about it, you were pretty impressed with what it was possible to do with the amount of memory and everything they had, right? Because essentially, it's this massive world-exploring game. And the scene is like a guy goes to a distant planet to find a crew that have been lost, and they're trying to develop a new planet and all the rest of it. But it's absolutely gigantic, and it featured these like these loads like way ahead of its time stuff

like realistic gravity um also like we that 15 years before a proper gravity engine was made or whatever it's got like inertia it's got like physics engines style stuff it's got ai it's got stealth based like gameplay it's got like memory where you leave something somewhere and they're still there before it's got characters that behave autonomously and do different things and respond in different ways and it was a game which we used to play all the time but because i was seven or eight and because we had no help from anyone right and it was a game that was so complicated and so problem solving and so long that um if you completed it you you sent a letter to the developers and they they did you a certificate and sent it back saying well done

because hardly anyone could complete it i only ever really got to like the first two or three chambers of the cave system on the planet which the game takes place so watching this youtube run through of it by a guy who's obviously brilliant at it and can complete the whole thing is incredible to me to watch even now um it's just it's just an amazing amazing game way way ahead of its time and i think um you know the video game magazine edge yeah is that is that seen as being like quite a-respected magazine? It is, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's very few magazines around these days. So it gave... When Edge magazine launched,

XR was one of just three games that were awarded a 10 out of 10 perfect game score. And it's seen as like an all-time classic, really, and the platform and the basis for loads of games that came since. So if you listen to this and you like video games and you don't know about xr it's definitely worth checking out it's a really interesting um um game did you have a chance to check it out pete i did i i mean i think um furthermore on that i think i think looking at it uh i mean twofold um graphically i mean it was doing stuff that really wasn't being done at that time.

And to be honest, a lot of the consoles weren't doing that as well. Scrolling was a big issue for a lot of systems and stuff. And, you know, there's physics, there's wind, there's stuff like that. It's absolutely insane. The particle systems and stuff, it's incredible. But, like, there's a real... There was a thing... I can't remember who actually set it up, but somebody sort of basically went round all these sort of major thinkers

in world video game kind of like criticism this week and basically tried to compile a proper from the best of the best of the highly regarded thinkers on the actual discipline, the best of the best games, the top 100, the definitive kind of top 100, not based on publisher numbers, not placed on sales figures, not based on Metacritic scores,

just the favourite games, the top 100 games of the critical figures in the space. And because of all of the money being pumped into this space in america um the stuff like the c64 and the home computer markets in the uk and the master system as well which was obviously the the big hitter in in the u in the uk and europe over the um whatever nintendo had to offer the nes um they it sort of skews massively into those spaces, your Mario's and those kind of characters,

your Metroids and stuff. And nobody talks about these games because the UK and Europe were such a, regardless of being a smaller market, it was just more nascent than what was happening in the US and stuff. And so these characters like Mario and Metroid and and metroid and and you know donkey kong and all these ones that were really really popular um you know people kind of like people don't talk about games like exile people don't talk

about games like elite in the same way yeah they talk about video games like starfox and stuff like that they don't talk about them in the same way because they were seen as being it's like the way we regard sort of games like as talk about on on um on the foot rambling um we were trying to figure out what video games that erling harland was playing um because he said he's played a video game but he doesn't want to tell anyone what it is because it's too embarrassing and i thought it might be like um power simulator power simulator or like pc build simulator or like the ones where you take apart cars and put them back together or train sims and stuff like that.

These kind of like Eastern European, sort of German kind of experiences that are like so beautifully put together by a devoted group of enthusiasts. They're like meditation aids really, aren't they? Say again, they're like meditation aids. Yeah, just't they? Say again, they're like meditation aids. Yeah, just taking something apart, putting it back together, making sure it works.

I mean, playing on a PC, a PC building simulator, is a hilarious bit of... It's late-stage capitalism, that is. Well, is it? Yeah, I guess it is. I guess it is, but it's, you know, it's very odd. Well, I would like to fly the flag for Exo, chiefly because when I was a kid, it was incredible. And I know this makes me sound really old,

but talking about those perfectly put together games around now that you're talking about, Pete, which I also enjoy. I mean, I play video games a fair amount now. Well, one video game in particular, as you know. But back then, like like it was necessary for your imagination to have to do quite a lot of the work yeah i'm quite pleased about like looking back on it i'm quite pleased about it because obviously when you when you watch it on the youtube playthrough now it's completely um you know primitive but i think it was an amazing game

it was absolutely massive it was non-linear it had this massive world to explore and i just think it was an amazing game. It was absolutely massive. It was non-linear. It had this massive world to explore. And I just think for 1988, on the BBC Micro, which is the computer we had at home, which has got, what, 64K, probably? Is that what it had? I don't think it even had that, to be honest. Right.

It had artificial intelligence, for example, creatures demonstrating awareness of nearby noises line of sight vision and memory of where players were last seen it had a physics model with gravity inertia mass explosions shock waves water earth wind and fire and it accurately simulated all three of newton's laws of motion um which which i think just think is incredible for that time i mean we're talking about so years old. And I think the whole game was under 64 kilobytes

as well so it's like it would fit in a mobile phone 50 million times. You worked out that it would fit on one of our SD cards in our studio 2.2 million times. It's good stuff isn't it? You'd never finish that one if it was that big. No exactly if you if you have got any memory of playing exile back in the day i love the idea

of people around uh playing it when i was playing it as a kid and and uh or you've got any thoughts or you want to check it out we'll put the youtube playthrough on the um on the social media so you can check it out if you haven't seen it before but do get in touch if you are a fan of it um hello at lukeandpeacher.com i'd love love to hear about it because it reminds me of childhood memories of growing up with my uncle and all that kind of good stuff, so it'll be interesting to hear about it. Petech, should we have a quick break and when we come back we should do

some emails, right? Because apparently Rory keeps telling us we've got loads and we've got to get through some of them Alright then And we're back it's the Luke and Pete show and we've got some emails to get through because we have been a bit slack with your emails. A bit slack with your emails. Is one of them from Danny Wallace about his drone?

I don't think so, no. I don't think so. Because Danny's got better things to do. Bigger and better things to do, right? Over that one, he's just cut you out of his life after your disgraceful treatment of his possession. Well, you know. Shall we do this email from um dan about um prime the drink yeah let's do it all right i'll do the first one then you can do the next one okay um this is from dan he says dear pete and luke uh this is a long one but give it a chance i promise you this is all true i'm fully on board with pete's mission to eradicate prime energy drink from our children's lives. His tactic is genius and I confirm a win, albeit in unfortunate circumstances, which I'll get into.

So obviously, for those of you who don't remember, Pete's mission is to make prime uncool by just getting people like he and I to drink it. And we've had Noah, our friend and listener, send bottles of prime to us so we can drink it and make it look uncool. And we challenged all older men and women of middle age, like we kind of are, to do so, to make it uncool. And hopefully, maybe, Pete, even torpedo that Arsenal sponsor. Yes, I think so. Yeah, let's take it away from them. So Dan says, My 13-year-old son was as obsessed with Prime

as the entire nation of children are. he and his friends would run surveillance shifts on the local spa waiting for a new delivery when said delivery arrived the nominated scout would send an alert to all available children to swarm the shop like a zombie horde the staff kept the drinks behind the counter and only allowed two per zombie uh owing their lives to the still standing COVID barriers. My son was collecting the empty bottles in his bedroom like a glorified recycling centre. He kept telling me they will be worth something one day. But much like Pete, I decided enough was enough. This weekend, I happened upon a new delivery of prime drinks by accident while

shopping and i bought one for myself it was a white moon flavored bottle i'm yet to hear confirmation that it tastes like the moon um but anyway i promptly went home emptied the entire contents down the sink and replaced it with whiskey ginger ale and lime i was determined to use this as my drinking vessel for the day in front of my son this is this is what you do pete your your actually your words have real life consequences um shortly after refilling it i happened upon my son who was awe-stricken he informed me that i apparently apparently captured the mu2 version of the prime drink he told me that he and his friends knew it existed in mythology but had never seen that flavour before I told him that's a shame

me and my mates drink them at work all the time following this my partner reminded me she wanted some pictures hung in the bathroom so I went to the shed to get the equipment I needed and then ended up just fucking around with other stuff in the shed for maybe an hour just taking things apart

and what not I finally come back inside for some refreshment in the form of my whiskey moon prime drink guess what the empty bottom was now proudly displayed on the shelf of my son's recycling center and he was feeling a bit peculiar oh i thought about this for a while and decided my best course of action was to tell him and my partner that he clearly has caffeine poisoning she has now said prime is banned in the house uh because of how it's affected his health he was terrified but assured him it would pass in a day he has now told all of his friends and their parents in consequence there is no longer a delivery scout mission at the local spa

and they seem to struggle to shift their prime bottles please don't let my partner know sincerely dan i mean we can't out of all of the things we will endorse and will not endorse, we cannot endorse this, Luke. I know I do endorse children drinking. Right, okay, that's absolutely fine. It's one of my things, yeah. I mean, I would say that, like, out of all of the sort of alcohol drinks that a child could drink, I mean, that sounds about as nice as it gets, really.

You know, it's nice and sweet. You weren't certain that on the last record. It was your big hangover. I've only just recovered. But yeah, I mean, wow, Dan. Good? Maybe. But the thing is, 13.

So I remember, I'm not endorsing that, obviously. That was a joke. I mean, our American cousins will i think generally find it a little bit more shocking how early kids get drunk in the uk right yeah okay and there is a probably i don't know if there still is because i don't read the daily mail but there's there used to be apparently a bit of a problem with it but i remember being i think 14 and being at my friend's parents um new year's eve party and there's loads of people there like 50 60 people there yeah so it's quite easy to sneak around and we were drinking those little

stubby beers that used to get on booze cruises back from france yeah i didn't really like it very much and it made me feel horrible but i can't have been much older than that at least i knew what i was doing i yeah i think i was 14 when i was drinking stubbies so it's like yeah that's mad in it because like 13 too young 14 get him down yeah it's so it's so i do remember thinking that um because it's quite it's not it's not that strict at places like university campuses and all the rest of it and obviously students will always be students but in the us i remember speaking to um to some people some of my wife's friends and talking about how you know they they didn't really start drinking until they were 21 and i remember saying that we were fucking bored of alcohol by 21 we'd done uni by then it's almost kind of like more like if you're

going to continue it with your life like you're gonna you are going to continue it anywhere but like by 21 yeah i've done everything yeah everything so so i i also remember being a new year's eve party the following year so i would have been i don't know maybe i think just 15 and i was at a big um place called head car and if you're from gospel where i grew up you'll know what that is it stands for um the hard way elson district community association right right um i literally the place near the place near where I grew up was actually called Hardway. So you could say you grew up the Hardway.

Anyway, and people would descend upon that for a New Year's Eve party. There'd be like a DJ and a band and all the rest of it. And we went there with my family. And one of my dad's friends, who's amazingly named Terry Tappenden. Terry Tappenden? Yeah.

Nice. You can imagine, the person you're imagining in the mid 90s to be a dad called terry tappenden is exactly correct what you're imagining for some reason i've got lionel blair in my head carry on okay you're wrong uh anyway he he just went to the bar and again there's loads of people there so you can get lost in the mix and he got his rounding for everyone he's got me a pint of lager. And I was like, I'm not sure about this. I'm not sure about this. Obviously, I drank it.

And again, I didn't really like it. But my point is, this is the age where you're starting to get a feel for it. And I reckon, looking back on it, when I would go in the park with Alco Pops with my friends, I wasn't much older than that. And I reckon my parents probably knew what I was doing. Okay. So basically for Dan, it's fine that he gave his kids prime tinge ginger ale and whiskey. I'm not saying it's fine. And I'm not saying it should be whiskey.

I'm just saying. You've just admitted you were drinking stubbies that your old man got when you were 13 or 14, right? Someone else's old man got. Oh, right. Okay, yeah. It's not enough alcohol in a stubby for my dad for crying out loud.

Let's not take it that dark. There's no need to. All right. Let's do another email. All right. Trying to show we got one from Paul. Hi, Luke. Hi, Pete.

My last email was long, so I'm going to keep this one short. When I was in year 10, we went on a school exchange trip to Germany. On our way through Frankfurt airport, my bag triggered the metal detector we had passed through, so the staff member asked if she could check it.

I, knowing there was nothing on to order in there, agreed. She opened my bag and it became immediately apparent that my friends had lined the entire bag with extremely explicit, not to mention highly imaginative German pornography, which was unveiled to everyone, including my teachers. Needless to say, nobody believed in my innocence, and the rest of the journey home was, to put it mildly, fucking mortifying.

Love the show, Paul. Now, I don't think I could handle that embarrassment at 42. And so doing that in year 10, was that 14? 14 is like how do you get through that really i mean i i would i would take that very i wouldn't take that well i don't think lukie moore i don't have a good time with that situation no i did you ever do it like did you ever do an overseas trip at school we did belgium i think on. God, that took a long time. Yeah, well,

the battlefields trip that everyone did. Oh, I don't know, we went to Bruges. We played football at Club Bruges ground for some reason.

That's fucking great. Yeah, really good. Yeah, but why were they always on coaches? I didn't appreciate it. They were always on coaches,

weren't they? Yeah, and remember, I mean, and the coach drivers would absolutely barrel it down and he'd be drinking half the time.

It's just like, I remember he lost a blummin', he lost a wing mirror at one point. I remember that. Well, the thing is, I think I can trump that because we went to a place in Switzerland called Interlaken on the coach. Interlaken about. Yeah.

And that is an absolute mission. That's like a 13-hour drive. Yeah, try living in the north. Oh, yeah. You Yeah. And that is an absolute mission. That's like a 13 hour drive. Yeah, try living in the north. Oh yeah. You've got an extra couple of hours.

You've got an extra three or four hours on there. Yeah. But Switzerland is much further than Belgium is my point. Yeah, fair.

And I remember just being packed onto a coach. But weirdly it was a double-decker coach. Oh right. And all the teachers were upstairs

having the absolute run of the place and we were all packed in downstairs and uh i have no i mean i guess it's obviously to keep the cost down all the rest of it but it was it was kind of brutal doing that coach journey if i was a teacher but i'm not doing it i'm not yeah why on earth would you ever want to do that i'm not doing it you must have to do it and some parents would be drafted in to kind of like get the kids on the and it was always certainly for us and maybe it had something to do with being in the north

it was always we'd start off at like 2 in the fucking morning the first few hours would just be snoozing and just oh god the worst I don't remember any educational aspect in my trip to Switzerland either no I don't remember any educational aspect in my trip to switzerland either no i don't know i remember kids buying flick knives and shurikens i remember um mr breathway getting a bit pissed um i remember someone smashing a light i remember people drinking beers and and

then hiding the fact they drank beers and me and a lad called jonathan not drinking any beers and thinking that we're going to get in trouble um for for being in the general proximity of these boozards you weren't and you weren't a naughty boy then were you i was a naughty boy no good because your asthma because because of my asthma i can't drink it's my asthma i can't run away i went to belgium with the school um i remember one of the nights i mean that was an educational one because we went to the battlefields around ypres and we're at kind of which i'd like to revisit in my in my nerdy adult form um and uh there was a karaoke night one night for all the kids and the teachers and um me and four boys ended up doing the spice girls uh song

nice okay and then and then all the teachers were doing different karaoke things and looking back me and four boys ended up doing the Spice Girls song. Nice. Okay. And then, and then all the teachers were doing different karaoke things. And looking back on it, they were like pissed, but we were secretly pissed, but shouldn't have been pissed. So we had to pretend we were sober, even though they were pissed.

And they wouldn't have noticed anyway. They wouldn't have given a shit. Yeah. Yeah. True. I remember sort of like Belgium is very much, you walked into Le Joke Shop and you see just a

magazine where like you know there's humorous like cartoonists in Europe were disgusting in the 80s weren't they

absolutely disgusting just fucking tinting was fucking snowy and I was going this isn't this isn't mandated by this is not licensed

Hergé this is not licensed this is an unlic....Hergé or his name. It's literally unlicensed. This is an unlicensed fucking... Hergé's estate has not signed off on Tintin giving a blowjob to the bad guy whose name I can't remember. Yeah, what's Obelix doing? And also, can I make a slightly perhaps controversial point

and maybe a point to end the show with today if I was taking a bunch of kids to any European country it would not be fucking Belgium what do you mean why

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