The Luke and Pete Show - Duracell vs Eveready

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

Have you ever thought about doing a flying elbow onto a printer? We haven’t, but naturally there is someone on the internet who has… Elsewhere, Luke finally tells us about his trip to Belgium and we also try to unpick the complex historical feud between battery titans Duracell & Eveready. It’s all part of the job.Want to contact the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Luke of Pitcher! I did a little pump when I got excited. Peter! I didn't mean to! It's because I'm leaning back on my chair in the studio. It's kind of like, I don't know what someone's done to this chair, but you can really lean far back. So I'm feeling very relaxed. And as I shouted, welcome to the Luke of Peachtree,

a little Tommy Squeaker popped out. Apologies. Luke of Peachtree is here once again on Thursday. We're like Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart, aren't we, in many ways? Yeah. That's Lukey. I think so. I think that the thing is, in that analogy,

I would be Alistair Campbell. Oh, we're certainly, cause I'm the ranty loud one, which makes you the very, very clever and polite and respectful Rory Stewart. But the beauty of it is, let's not forget camp and an opium addict.

And he's also a Tory. So that, that was also a secretory. Yeah, but not anymore. He's very much fallen out of love. I mean, just, just, I just want to double check again, because as I said on Monday, we do this as we go.

Are you happy with what you've just called him there? Are you legally very content with that? What, the opium addict? Don't say it again. I was waiting for you to jump in, but instead you moved it onto Tory stuff. I was waiting for you to go, he's not jumping in. He did an opium once, and he admitted it in Afghanistan.

Okay, and are you happy with that clarification? I'm happy with that clarification, yes. He did an opium once and he admitted it in Afghanistan. Are you happy with that clarification? I'm happy with that clarification, yes. I was hoping for you to jump in because you've got sloppy, mate. You never know when I'm going to pop out and absolutely do this. I'm still really for the fact that you've opened the show by talking about your flatulence.

This is up there with the 10 minutes we did on dog poo a few years ago. Well, now I'm off the brown. I'm pooping again. This is great stuff. Can I just say, on that chair thing, because I can see you on the video screen, you're in the chair that I normally sit in in the studio where I do the ramble. Unless Andy's there, I defer to Andy because he has that chair because Andy is the goat.

Oh, do you think Alistair Campbell would do that? He's an alpha and he lives up to the name alpha. You look more on the look of Pete Shaw. You're the alpha of the two and you are as wet as a blooming wet shower cubicle. Yeah, that is snappy, mate. Well done. Yeah, thanks, mate. But I think people think of me as being like a real bore about that kind of stuff,

like an alpha about it. And I get paranoid about it. I'm very happy to defer to Brasssel in that seat because like i say for people who listen to the ramble who are listening to this will know brussel is the goat and he's also older than me and so i've got respect for him for that reason as well and i i so i let him have that chair but anyway when he's not on the show i have that chair and that chair is always doing what you're talking about there it's leaning all the way back and back. And I suspect it might be Jack from Jack's Happy Hour that moves the chair in that way.

He likes it moving like that, and it never gets put back again. So I always almost fall on my arse every time I sit in it. So if you're listening, Jack, which you're definitely not, that's your fault. Unless it's Stevie. It could be Stevie, but Stevie's a very, very, very lovely young man, and I'm sure we'd always put the chair back after he used it. Good stuff.

Well, this is Luke and Pete's show. Every week, we just talk about nonsense until we get to the second half of the show on a Thursday, and then we get to talk about batteries. I have promised to do a magic trick. That's going to be coming very, very soon indeed. But first, Luke, you brought up this chap, this wonderful chap on Twitter

that I would love to speak about. His name is, I can't find his name, but he's a bloke who basically jumps off tables in his back garden onto electronic devices, light tubes, broken glass, all kinds of stuff, really. He's a stuntman. I think he calls himself a super human. Is he a juggalo?

I don't think he's a fully paid up member of the juggalo fraternity. I think he's just more a, he identifies with the juggalos and the juggalettes. I'm sorry to cut in, but can I just confirm, we're talking about this before we're talking about my holiday, yeah? I just want to double-check that. Carry on. You put it on the runner. I didn't put it on there. Rory did. Who did? You put it on the WhatsApp group,

so then it automatically goes on the runner. Oh, is that how that WhatsApp group works? I just thought we were just sharing stuff for fun. Oh, no. Everything's content. You know that. I know that. Carry on. Carry on. All right. Well, look, I recommend checking him out because he's been on the internet for a little while. He's got 180,000 followers on Twitter. His name is SuperHuman1234.

Human is H-U-M-M-A-N. Oh, no. I mean, he's at the gathering of juggalos that's happening this year later on. Yeah, I think he might need some kind of intervention. Yeah, he's not well. He's jumping off stuff in his garden. Is he trying to get

into the WWF or something? I don't know. He talks a lot about his love for wrestling and obviously the stuff he does is, as a stuntman, wrestling moves.

It's a lot of kind of like Macho Man, Randy Savage, flying elbow kind of jobs and stuff in it. So, yeah, it's...

I like watching people do that kind of stuff and my Venn diagram, my kind of jobs and stuff in it so um yeah it's uh i like watching people do that kind of stuff and and i like my my venn diagram my kind of like ideal sweet spot is people who hurt themselves but not enough to seriously hurt themselves if you know what i mean yeah and i think the way that he sort of delivers all of his uh his juggalo bothering uh stunt moves uh shouting fuck this shit before you start everything you do in life I think is something to live by. Say again?

It's to G himself up, isn't it? Fuck this shit. Sometimes he's got a shirt on, most of the time he doesn't, but it's always going to end with him landing on a load of light tubes and really, really looking like he's hurting himself. There's something very exciting I've seen.

Pete, why on one of the videos did he choose a printer? I don't know, really. I mean, he's done weed whackers. He's done, I mean, he did an A.W. Jeff Hardy-style dive into the printer. Jeff Hardy's, I think, in a bit of trouble at the moment, so maybe it was a tribute to his ill health. But, yeah, there's all kinds of stuff. He jumps into barbed wire.

He jumps into more barbed wire, but with some Easter eggs in there. He jumps into everything, really. He's done a slip and slide where he slides down the end of a slip and slide with loads of, like, micro-machines and, at the end, a load of cheese graters. It's just good stuff. It's great stuff. Can I also say that if you were 15 now this is what you'd be doing on the

internet? Yeah only once though I think you just need a bit more protection, this lad's a bit of a husky lad, husky boy I think it would be good, I think he I don't think I have enough protection I certainly didn't when I was his age. What are you talking about

the fact that he's got a little bit of meat on the bones? Got a little bit of meat on the bones. Husky sounds like... Husky's a voice thing, isn't it? No, Husky in America is like what you call fat lads. Is it? I've been to America 50 times. I've never heard that.

Well, look, fine. Is that because people aren't saying it around me? Because I am one. Could be. They don't want to. I used to have a bike called the Husky 2. I don't know why it needed a sequel, but Husky was clearly so popular.

On that note about the old meat on the bones, I don't know if I told you this story, but I was around my sister's house a few years ago. My niece must have been about four, maybe. I think she was probably in reception class or something, or nursery or whatever. But she was like a small, actual, actual life human so she wasn't that young and um i was having a cup of tea with my sister and she was saying oh it's actually really nice um because we got invited into the

nursery or the reception or whatever today the mums got invited in and the dads to to see the kids and i think they sometimes do that just to see what they learn and all the rest of it yeah and the teacher was teaching Betsy which is my niece and the class that you shouldn't use the word fat right it's like a derogatory word there's nothing positive about it they don't want the kids to start growing up using it about themselves or about other people

which I think is a really positive thing by the way I thought you said flat no fat as in an apartment as in fat and so what they were doing is they were saying to the kids, whenever you have the kind of... Inclination to use that word. Yeah, the inclination to use the word fat,

you should use lovely instead, because it makes it a positive affirmation rather than a criticism or an insult, right? And I was like, that's amazing. That's a really good idea. I'd never really thought about that. Obviously, not having kids myself, I was like, oh, that's cool. I'm pleased they're doing that kind of stuff that to me felt like real great progress right

in in young impressionable minds and no word of a lie don't pour chip pan lovely down this uh create a fat bag sorry i mean a lovely bag no but it's great like honestly like no word of a lie a few minutes later betsy walks in from whatever she was doing and she walked straight up to me and went, Uncle Luca, you've got a lovely tummy. It's solid. And then me and my sister just started cracking up. I was like, thanks, Bets. That's the one thing you don't have.

You may regard yourself as husky. You haven't really got a gut. What's that? Have you been stung got a gut what about that what's that little little have you been stung by a wasp the jowl the jowl yeah but like you know we're getting older aren't we we're all getting jowly i've got a lot of salt and pepper in the old hair but more i don't really care i don't really care these things i don't really care i used to care a lot and these things i don't really care i just can't bothered to care it's like when i've got to the stage of my life where i think i'm probably halfway through my life now yeah the first half of it was brilliant but a lot of it was around like the usual growing pains of insecurity

and the arrested development of of what it is to be a 21st century male and all the rest of it and yeah that's fine i can't be arsed with this for the rest of my life i'm opting out yeah i i obviously do uh another another podcast with Chris, who does the Abroad Shabab podcast, Chris Broad. And he is, by his own ambition, you know, still not too overweight. So he's on a bit of a health kick. But he's very much, I see a lot of myself in him

because he's very technology first kind of solution. Oh, right. Okay, yeah. He's very much, he'll buy the Fitbit. He won't necessarily do the work. Oh, I'll do all that as well. So he'll sort of start with technology and I'm like, oh, I do this. And I see, I see a lot of my kind of like my, my health feelings in him.

And, and, and so if he ever kind of gets on it, gets back on the treadmill. And I think he's kind of making a concerted effort too, because he's to do so, because he's obviously putting videos online about him trying to get fit and stuff. I just, I sort of go, when I play football on a Tuesday, there are lads who are, got big old pot bellies.

They are, you know, really good footballers. They've clearly played at some sort of level before. But pot bellies, they're clearly about 45 to 50. 50 and fuck me they've got better engines than i have and i am fucking dying yes i think there's a real absolutely dying i think it's a real problematic association in our society between skinny and healthy yeah right and that's that's that's an issue because um that's probably at the heart of the issue really because people are trained by society to think if someone's a little bit overweight that that they're really unhealthy which isn't always true and i'm not talking about people you know obviously if you are morbidly obese that's not the most healthy thing to be and yeah that's different but

the problem is like i say that the association between skinniness and healthiness, which isn't the case. And for me, I think it's not necessarily... I need to clarify what I mean. What I mean is, for me, I don't really care for vanity reasons anymore. So what I'm talking about is the idea, I'd like to be healthy. I'd like to be good enough to be healthy enough to play with my niece and nephew and and you know you know do like outdoor things because i mean when we were in belgium last week the wife i have access to and i um we got on this big long bike ride we rode from like bruges up to zebruga west to blankenblinkenberger and then back down to

damma and then back to bruges again that was it was a long old hop that's a bit hefty isn't it yeah we got we got lost a couple times so i reckon we probably did about 40 odd miles um on a really heavy hire bike and then we were walking around in between when we locked our bikes up and that kind of stuff i really want to be able to do and i can do that so that's fine um but all i'm talking about is that when you're in your 20s and 30s i think you're a lot more worried about what people think about you how you look and all the rest of it and i went to a music festival with some friends i hadn't seen for a very long time um a while back and i hadn't seen them a lot

some of them for seven or eight years and um i was kind of a little bit insecure about how skinny and good they would look but then they all just looked a little bit fat so it's fine apart from one of them who looked absolutely ripped but he was the outlier and i could kind of dismiss that as being that he's outdoors all the time doing shit for his jobs that's fine so yeah it's fine. Apart from one of them who looked absolutely ripped but he was the outlier and I could kind of dismiss that as being that he's outdoors all the time doing shit for his jobs that's fine. So yeah,

I think it just does get a bit easier as you get older. Yeah, I've just got a cupboard full of suits that I can't fit into. Well,

the trousers I can't fit into so it's a race against time between me and the moths. Whoever gets them first gets them. I think the moths are going to get there. I think the moths are going to get there. I think the hack there is, I think,

because if you're someone whose weight fluctuates like mine does, the hack is to have probably three formal suits of different sizes. Right. I'll get on the big suit, the medium suit, and the slim suit or whatever. But, yeah, it's a funny old thing, I don't think you need to be kind of worried about it I read this book a while back

actually called The Courage to be Disliked, it's a little bit foreword by Duncan Goodhue but it's like about Adlerian psychology which is so Adler was a contemporary of Freud and Jung so he's kind of lesser known

I won't go into the detail of why it's different because it's boring but it's told through a Japanese philosophical lens it's translated from Japanese, it's written by two Japanese people and translated through into English and there's loads of really interesting nuggets in there about the psychology

behind why people are down on themselves and dislike themselves and all the rest of it. And it actually made me think about something, a lot of it in quite a different way. So I'd recommend that for anyone who wants to learn about that kind of thing. It's called The Courage to be Disliked. You better find it. But anyway, Peter, can I talk very briefly about my holiday?

Is that okay? Yes, please. Let's hear about the Zabruga, please. Zabruga is awful. I mean, by the time you get to Zabruga, you're like, fucking hell, I've just ridden an hour for this. But then when you move west along the coast

to Blankenburger, it's really nice, actually, really underrated. I've never really expected to see almost a Cannes-style beach in northern belgium right right um with all these little beach clubs and a nice sea front all the rest of it so we went there for a bit but we were staying in bruges which is a beautiful part of the world if you're looking for a chilled out kind of thing to do for a few days bruges is the place but it's so beautiful so quiet outside of the main square uh it's got

amazing canals and rivers everywhere um and then before that we were um the wife i have access to got me tickets to see nick cave in vercter which is right okay yeah so this is a festival in belgium love a music festival did you know that um no. I sort of see festivals as being more like a kind of Iberian Peninsula kind of vibe. You know Pukkelpop though, right? Pukkelpop.

You heard of that one? Oh, Pukkelpop. FM, yeah, Pukkelpop. Yeah, that's Belgian. Can someone die of Pukkelpop? Oh, don't bring it down. I'm not bringing it down. I'm just saying.

But, you know, yeah. There's loads of them anyway. There's loads of them. Pukkelpop's just the tip of the iceberg, it turns out. And there's this one in Belgium just not far from Brussels, near Leuven, actually,

called the TW Classic, which goes on every year with a big headliner each time. Obviously, because of COVID, it's not been on for a couple of years, but the last time it was headlined by a little-known New Jersey band called Bon Jovi. But this year, it was

headlined by Nick Cave, who's one of my faves. So we went to go and see Nick Cave. He's one of my faves. And, uh, so we went to go and see Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Uh, it was pissed that there was rain, which made it better because he's that kind of artist. Um, and it was great.

A lovely time was had, Peter, and, uh, sipping on a Belgian beer and having a, uh, having a, a waffle and a,

um, and a, what else did we eat? Oh, loads of frites. I love frites, don't they in Belgium? Oh,

they love a frite. They have the moussels and the frites. Yeah yeah there was no mussels at the festival but um but they do love mussels generally i'll tell you what what is it about like belgian mayonnaise that makes it so good and why can't we get it here um what kind of mayonnaise is it is it something special to it it's really rich and creamy and it's got a really distinctive taste to it uh if you if you were to get i'll tell you what if i was to get you a little bowl of that and a little bowl of Hellmann's, you'd be chucking the Hellmann's through the window.

You'd be fuming. I mean, that's like a brick, the big jar of Hellmann's. That's really dangerous stuff. True, yeah. Make sure the window's open. But yeah, so that was good. And then Bruges, like I say, Bruges itself is lovely. We did a little boat trip around the canals,

went for a bike ride, like I said. Dama was a really interesting place. So said oh go to go to damma because um it's like a mini bruge and like it was a very strange i'd love to know if any listeners here have been to damma d-a-m-m-e i guess like jean-claude van damme's from family is from damma originally i guess um but it's a really small entirely medieval town where nothing is open and it's famous for its bookshops which also aren't open and there's just a few windmills dotted around it's like almost like a town that time forgot and there was one little pub beer keller type pub that was open that was absolutely cleaning up because every single tourist had obviously been told to go to

damp because it's so picturesque and nothing else would bother to open it was pretty odd, and it's the height of summer, and I think it was a Friday, like there's no reason for everything to be closed, but it is, I can't really get my head around why that would be Sometimes

Europe's kind of quite unique, where the hell was I? I think I was in Switzerland, Geneva I? I think I was in Switzerland, Geneva, I think. Geneva, I think I was in there and it was just a random Saturday where you just presume in the summer, myself and my mate were just cutting around. Looking for an indie bar?

Looking for an indie bar. Didn't find one. Absolutely, just everything was closed during the day. There wasn't a single restaurant, day like there wasn't a single restaurant single it was it just it wasn't a public holiday it was just one of those things where they just didn't bother opening on a saturday and it's like guys i know that economy is kind of like built around people coming in during the week and then flying home at the weekend

but it was a saturday and just nobody like nobody just felt the need to open it was absolutely insane i think to an american as well obviously mimi it's it's crazy because like you could be from a small town in the us and there'll be a shopping mall there and they'll every shop will be open till like 10 p.m yeah they open it's open for like 15 hours a day every day yeah and there were places even in Bruges, mate, which is a tourist hotspot and an amazing town. It's an amazing city for loads of reasons.

I think it's the only city in the world where the whole city is a UNESCO world heritage site. Right. Right. But like there'll be, it'll be bustling in that market and it'll be all the usual stuff you expect from like a European market square. The horse, the horse carriages, the, all the stuff going on, the signs, the people trying to get you into their restaurants.

And then at like three o'clock, it'll just close for like two hours. Speaking as someone who helps to run his own business, you are missing out on quite a lot of money there. I'm not sure how strong you feel about your traditions, but you are losing a lot of money there. I'm not sure how strong you feel about your traditions, but you are losing a lot of money there. I remember we were doing a show about the first episode of WCW Nitro, which is obviously designed to go up against Raw, Monday Night Raw.

And they filmed the first WCW Nitro in the middle of the Mall of America in Minnesota you know the Mall of America where it's just this

fucking massive mall the biggest I think it's still like the top 10 it's still in the top 10 of the biggest malls

in the world absolutely huge and they just put this fucking ring in there Hulk Hogan and his little fucking restaurant his little pasta restaurant and they just filmed this fucking ring in there. Hulk Hogan and his little fucking restaurant, his little pasta restaurant. And they

just filmed it in the moment. This was filmed at night during when shoppers are just running around, just shopping and stuff. Can you see shoppers in the background? Say again? Can you see shoppers in the background? Yeah, you can see shoppers and shops in the background. It was really weird. It was like WCW

just didn't want to make any money that year but they uh they did one they did one episode of uh of something they did one pay-per-view that was on uh a beach in california so therefore they couldn't charge tickets so people were just kind of walking up having a bit of getting a bit of lunch watching the wrestling and then walking off again but the mall of america's it was just sort of it was so weird to sort of see wrestling but in the background just an escalator it's a great view from the escalator

probably yeah probably yeah really good the only thing I know about the Mall of Americas I think and it probably isn't now

because of Dubai and all the rest of it or China or whatever but it used to be the biggest mall in the world right yes yeah yeah yeah

yeah at one point but they just do malls right up there I guess that's what the whole thing is in America because like a lot of times I don't know the history of the Mall of America but I do know that Yeah, yeah, at one point. But they just do malls right up there. In America, it's crazy, isn't it? Because a lot of the time, I don't know the history of the Mall of America, but I do know that Bloomington, Minnesota

isn't the hub of anywhere, really. And a lot of the time in the US, and this is to America's immense credit, in my view, it'll just be the brainchild of a couple of wacky billionaires or something who just go, we're going to build the world's biggest shopping mall and we're going to build it here. And everyone goes,

fuck me. All right, great. And they do, and they do do it. Yeah. It happens. It's crazy.

That shit goes on. So, and then, and then some other wacky billionaires will go, let's do a wrestling event there. Yeah. And you have to, you have to be able to appreciate that.

That's like, that's good. Like America's got a lot of shit going on that's bad, but that stuff is good. We should all be grateful that's happening. Yeah, exactly. And the great thing about it is, no one is going to Bloomingham regardless.

It doesn't matter. It's not an attraction, is it? Because it's miles away from anywhere. So it's just a funny quirk. It's a really good thing. Anyway, we should probably take a little break and come back and do some batteries, right? Through that.

But yeah. I mean, I wasn't expecting to talk about Bloomington, which is, as I suspected, a reasonable drive away from an already massive city, Minneapolis. So why didn't they build it there? Anyway. Exactly. Weird. All right, we'll be back in a second oh we're back it's the Luke and Pete show on a Thursday so of course we are talking

about all things battery brands if you found a weird battery that you sort of think well you don't hear from that brand very often goodness uh just give us an email hello at lukenpeteshow.com and let us know where you found the battery and And if you can take a picture, that will be absolutely cracking as well. A few battery brands coming in this week, kicking off with Alan the Dinosaur in a Pub Dad. Thank you, Alan the Dinosaur in a Pub Dad. I can't half remember that story, half don't. Just throwing in the battery in the mix for your approval.

Here I have a Tadiran high-voltage lithium battery that I found in a battery pack. Are these a new play in the game? Keep up the good work. Thanks in advance. Regards, Alan the Dinosaur in a pub dad. Tadiran. Now, what is that?

I mean, is that Iranian? Tadiran. I don't really know. What's that word coming from? Tadiran. Have you got a picture? Have you got the picture in front of you? Are you happy with this as a format of battery? No, I don't have the battery picture in front of me. No. What's

happening in the battery picture? It's in the battery pack, so the batteries are wired together and they come in a little plastic container. Oh, like a chloride. What size is it though? Is it a chloride C? I'm looking at a tadiran on Google. It looks a bit like a to me it, though? Is it a chloride C? I'm looking at a Tadaran on Google. It looks a bit like a...

To me, it looks like a AAA size. Right. Look, if it is already soldered, I don't have a problem with that because they could be liberated at any moment. But what voltage are we looking at? 3.6. 3.6.

I think that might actually... Yeah, okay. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A non-rechargeable lithium inorganic battery. Look, it's a AA size, and we just have to accept that and respect it. It doesn't matter what's been sort of glued or hot glued or soldered together.

I think that's absolutely fine. Okay, so we're accepting it. In which case, Alan, congratulations to you because that's a new player. Sorry about the admin, but we've got to get it right. Yeah. Patrick's got in touch.

Hi, folks. So I had the enviable task of cleaning up my auntie's house a few weeks back. Sorry to hear that, Patrick. In the cleanup, I came across a Lego set which was stored in the loft,

a loft which hadn't been entered in many a year. The Lego set belonged to a much older cousin of mine and hadn't been accessed in well over 40 years. To my surprise, I came across some batteries in the set. The conditions of the batteries astounded me, and I had to show you two gentlemen.

Fingers crossed it's a new player, and if not then, fair play to whoever sent them in before me. Thanks a million, guys. Patrick, now, is Patrick a young person? Yeah, because I think he might be out of his fucking mind I like the innocence to which he's penned this email

I love it Patrick please email again because if you think Ever Ready is getting in the fucking battery list you've got rocks in your head buddy you've got batteries

in your bonce this is like going to the pub with your mates and sitting them down and saying listen words of word to the wise, have any of you tried Diet Coke? Because I cannot tell you how many times

EverReady's been sent in. I would go as far as to say they are the most famous battery brand after Duracell in the world. Correct. I thought EverReady was... Oh, no, Duracell was the bunny, wasn't it? What was the EverReady character?

Was he like a superhero? I seem to recall. But EverRe Ready were quintessential 80s, 90s batteries. If you were a child of the 90s, you'd remember Ever Ready batteries and the Gulf War. I think they might have used the bunny as well.

And there might be some interesting kind of crossover between Ever Ready and Duracell. I feel like it might be a kind of rebrand type vibe What, they just stole it off? What, the Ever Ready was sort of well, weirdly you know like, we'll get into

the final battery brand but did you know that, you know like I'll occasionally send on the WhatsApp group, I send on loads of WhatsApp groups like a Japanese mascot because they're always demented, they're always like it's always like melon crossed with a bear and they're the uh prefectural uh mascot of a particular town or whatever and it's very bizarre it's always weird yeah always love a mascot but i didn't realize that people create mascots and they create the suits and then they bring the person with the suit around to businesses to ask them whether they want to put some money behind that animal

being their mascot. So they kind of lobby to be the mascot of something. So these people create mascots, send them to the business and go, would you like this fucker to be your mascot? Because look at him, he's dead cute. That's weird, isn't it? I think on the Ever Ready thing think i'm just looking it up now i think that so in certain territories the energizer bunny is an ever ready thing

right certain other territories as duracell thing and i can't really work out why ever ready energizer is energizer what's what Energizer? Is that like affiliation Energizer? Who are they? They're like... Yeah. Energizer's a completely different company to Everready, aren't they?

I don't know. It's all very complicated. So Energizer does have a bunny and it's the Energizer bunny in North America. Yeah. And then... Oh, there's a legal challenge.

When the Energizer trademarked its bunny... So it a parody i believe yeah but i think energizer is just a different name for the same thing in a different territory the same way you get like lays and walkers or whatever no i think that the energizer button but he was originally a campaign parody of the duracell bunnies uh despite the immense popularity of the parody campaign, sales of Energizer batteries actually went down during the years that the ads ran.

Can you do that? Duracell claimed that 40% of its customers thought the campaign was promoting Duracell, not Energizer, but provide no evidence. That's incredible. So people sort of still saw that pink bunny jumping around and thought that it was an original Duracell advert and not an Energizer parody.

Anyway, Duracell tried to sue Energizer because of their Duracell Bunny campaign and filed for a new United States trademark of its own, citing the original use of the character more than a decade earlier. And there was now a court settlement. Energizer and its bunny took exclusive trademark rights in the United States and Canada. And Duracell and its bunny took exclusive rights in in the United States and Canada. And Duracell and its bunny took exclusive rights in all other places in the world. So you're half right there, Lukey Moore. And Energizer does have a subsidiary, which is EverReady. So it's all very interesting stuff.

What a tangled web we weave. I know. This is the sort of episode, that whole basically reading out a Wikipedia article would comprise, if it was a bit slower, with a bit of jazzy piano behind it, that's a This American Life episode. Oh, yeah. People laugh at it, don't they? People love it.

People absolutely love it, don't they? Yeah. Finally for now, Lucas Bigford. Hey, Lucas. I'm a relatively new listener to the show, living in St. Louis, Missouri, famously the home of Energizer Holdings, the parent company of Energizer, Railvac, and EverReady Batteries. See, we didn't need to read the Wikipedia.

I could have sent this fucking email. If you had just scrolled down 10 centimeters, you could have spared me and our listeners a lot of silly bother. Thank you, Lucas. After hearing a battery brand episode for the first time, I devoted a non-zero amount of time to searching for a hopeful new player in an attempt to make my hometown proud.

So naturally, when my shipment of Superfood Daily Greens mix arrived last week, it came with a free gift, a battery-powered milk frother, of course. Much to my excitement, out of the box came tumbling my first entrant into the battery ball, Pikachu's favourite battery, the Thunderbolt Magnum, heavy-duty 1.5 volt, AA battery. I can only hope you've not found them all and that this is a new play to the game. But even if it's not, I shot my

shot. Cheers, fellas. Thank you very much, Lucas Bigford, for giving me some information I couldn't have done with five minutes ago, to be quite frank. Yeah, I think that this is a great email, chiefly because Lucas Bigford, who sounds like a porn star name, has sent in a battery that sounds like a sex toy.

That's fair. Thunderbolt Magnum. It's the word Magnum, isn't it? Lucas, sadly, you are very close to being a new player, but you're not a new player because our friend Jake Rutschman sent these exact batteries in on the 20th of July 2018,

so almost four years ago. But only the second person in all that time to send them in. So good for you, but not a new player. So we've got one new player out of three this week.

God bless the ever-ready submission. That was never going to go anywhere. But regardless, we've got one out of three new players. Not the end of the world. Not too bad. Shall we finish with a very, very quick email

about Celebrity Unirinal Encounters? And then I don't feel bad about not doing an email this week. Celebrity Urinal Encounters? How can I possibly turn that down? I know. Jamie, it's, yeah. Hello chaps, just caught up in your favourite shows, your latest shows during a cycle ride from Munich

to Venice as a motivational pod when ascending mountains. I thoroughly recommend a battery brand chat. Maybe it energises people as they're doing something exhausting. Anyway, your recent section on odd celebrity urinal encounters, is that the official name? Triggered a memory I'd not thought about in years. Several years ago, I was in Manchester,

and after several scoops, we found ourselves in the grapes. I seem to recall pictures of chore actors in the walls, or on the walls, and my mate telling me it was part-owned by some soap star. I can't remember. Anyway, at some point, I pop into the gents, and standing next telling me it was part owned by some soap star I can't remember anyway at some point I pop into the gents and standing next to me is a smashed

Bruce Jones aka Les Battersby fuelled by red stripe and Jäger straight away I launched into alright Les

he turns to me member in hand and shouts my name's not fucking Les and then he stormed out incredible scenes that's it just thought I'd share

I'm off to buy a head torch Jamie fantastic stuff and sorry you got a red faced angry Les Battersby stormed out. Incredible scenes, that's it. Just thought I'd share. I'm off to buy a head torch. Jeremy, fantastic stuff and sorry you got a red-faced angry Les Battersby in the toilet with his Les Battersby out. I think he must surely get a lot of that or he must at the time. How is he still

annoyed about it? I'd also say that for those who want to learn a bit more about Bruce Jones who plays Les Battersby, I would again on this occasion recommend his Wikipedia page, which has quite a long and interesting section under the title Personal Life. Yes, he was friends with...

No, he wasn't friends with. He found one of the Peter Sutcliffe bodies, didn't he? What? Did he? Yeah, he did. He discovered the body found one of the he discovered the body one of the

Yorkshire Rebels victims that is very interesting amazing huh yeah he said listen he had a difficult time has Bruce and we wish him all

the very best yeah yeah but listen if you've encountered a celebrity in the urinal we would very much like to hear from you as well

hello at lukeandpete show.com on Monday I said that you know if you've got any topics you want us to discuss um please by all means do so and we'll do our best to accommodate them but we're also happy to see receive those traditional type emails as well if you can talk about meeting a soap actor in a urinal and and being drunk and talking to him traditional i mean that's up to you i guess indeed let's get out of here peter yes we'll be back very very soon indeed for more of this

nonsense but in the meantime stay safe and drop us an email hello at lucanpeachow.com ta ta the lucan peachow is a stack production

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