The Luke and Pete Show - Eighties Cool

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

The lads kick off by confessing their celebrity crushes, starting strong with Denzel Washington before honourable mentions go to Mr Tumble - and, yes - Pete even declares his affection for Johnny 5 fr...om Short Circuit. From there, it’s onto iconic 80s movies, leading to the ultimate question: what truly defined coolness in the 80s? Their answer: eating raw jelly, and biscuits straight from the packet, obviously.And of course, today’s episode wouldn't be complete without a proper dive into the aftermath of the US election.Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on X, Threads or Instagram.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:25 CBC News. Oh, welcome to the Luke and the Pete show. I am mysterious Pete Donaldson. I'm joined by the phantasm himself, Luke Moore. I don't know why I'm doing Halloween style stuff on a week when it's not Halloween. What's in my pocket? Oh, it's a Toblerone! A little mini Toblerone! That's not what the show's all about. What's in Pete's pocket? Although that would be a very good feature. I found a big bag of Toblerones, Luke. Do you know that film where a pilot has rescued his plane full of passengers by doing an incredible maneuver and he is hauled up
Starting point is 00:01:21 Flight with Denzel Washington. Flight with Denzel Washington. Do you know that scene, because he's an alcoholic, he goes into a hotel room and they've told that he, he's basically said, can you just clear out the mini bar? I'm an alcoholic, I don't wanna, I've got a deposition the next day and I do not want to be as high as a kite for it. And then it turns out he gains access to the next hotel room over that's full of hooch.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And when I found that big bag of chocolate I was like I felt like Denzel Washington in that. I said we all know how this is going to end. The only vague resemblance between you and Denzel Washington mate if you don't mind me saying. Yeah, yeah that's fair. We talked about you being an actor last time and you said you wouldn't remember any lines. My mam loves a bit of Mayonnaise, she certainly loves a bit of Denzel. I love it a lot. Everyone's mam loves a bit of mayonnaise. She certainly loves a bit of Denzel. I love it. Everyone's mom loves a bit of Denzel, don't they?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, I mean my mom has certain tastes in attractive actors and very specific, very specific looks that my, I don't think my dad can really pull off personally. Let's leave it at that. Isn't that the point of having a celebrity crush though? Proper valley girl in the middle of Wales. Interests in my opinion. It's very, very life affirming. Peter, isn't that the point of having a celebrity crush? It is.
Starting point is 00:02:39 That's a very, very good point. That's why my celebrity crush is Shot Suckit. He's Mr Mr Tumble. I wanna fuck Johnny Five. That's what I need. That wouldn't be the most, even if you did that wouldn't be the most problematic thing about that film would it? No, it really wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:02:55 That depends, I guess it depends on what I was up to. Yes, I think that, I think, maybe it turned out that Johnny Five made him do that, made the actor do that. It was just part of the whole kind of subtext of that film. Yes, Luke, I'm a little bit kind of concerned that we are producing this show, presenting this show, recording this show, with you in a room that I'm not used to you being in. You are in, you're on a lovely sort of lived- in leather sofa behind a beautiful farrow and ball wall and a nice house plant. A yucca, perhaps. A cheese plant. Yeah, I think, what is that house plant? It's called a, it begins with an M. I can't remember
Starting point is 00:03:38 what the name is. Mother-in-law's tongue. It's not that. No, it's not that. It'll come to me later. No. Monstera, Monstera. Oh lovely. Um, yeah, because essentially what can only be described as some serious home improvement Is happening next door? Okay, which means I would be a Spot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah kind of like that Yeah, and you were talking about how we could isolate the mics and it'll be fine and I won't even be able to hear myself think and Peter I need to be absolutely dialed in 100% focused on this show when I'm working with you Because you are such a high-level pro or casting operator
Starting point is 00:04:15 Anything less than the best from me means this whole thing will fall to pieces man. I think you know that Yeah, well, I mean you'd kind of miss you wouldn't be like at the You wouldn't be like at the, you wouldn't be at the wheel when I'm asking questions like what was that film with Denzel Washington in? I didn't even give you the information, Denzel Washington, no. You said what was that film with a plane with a barrel roll? That's how tuned in I am to you. I love that you're so familiar with that film that you remember that he did a barrel roll. I've not, I've only seen it once. He did do a barrel roll in it, very exciting stuff. Yeah, Vish, Vish,
Starting point is 00:04:44 of a separate parish to us, Vish, yesterday said to me, something that you always say, barrel he did do a barrel roll in it very exciting stuff I mean wow a separate parish to us Vish yesterday said to me something that you always say and I'll be honest I'm gonna get your hand off my legs don't take offense to this right when he said it meant a little bit more to me than when you say it which is yeah oh Luke you're really good at remembering names and things in TV shows yeah okay yeah I guess that that that he's familiar with people who are operating a slightly higher level than I am. So yeah, I think that's fair. I'll take that on the chin very very happily. Because I think it's like me, when you say it, it's like me living in a shoe box and a homeless person saying to me that's a nice house.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah, I mean at the moment there's a few people in my life who are going through the perimenopause on the menopause and the way they describe symptoms I sort of go come in in the waters lovely I've been experiencing this since 18 there is nothing about the whole fuzzy thinking memory shithole that is the perimenopause that I haven't been experiencing since I was very young but luckily I have coping mechanisms aka I do shows, recorded podcasts with people who help me along. You're basically my carers. Like me and Mark Haynes basically. Yeah pretty much but Mark basically I don't even ask anything of Mark because he will know everything about the rest thing that I don't. And do you ever walk into a room and forget why you walked in there?
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yes, yeah. All the time. All the time. What is this? I mean, I'm drinking out of a NutriBullet cup, so I mean, I'm drinking hot coffee out of a NutriBullet cup. Alan Partridge has his aerilator. Yeah, I've got this. I don't know where to put it. In my stomach. I'll just let it...
Starting point is 00:06:30 I don't know. My NutriBullet gets used a hell of a lot more than I thought it would, and it's never for healthy stuff. It's always for pancakes, Luke. Always for pancakes or gravy. Well, pancakes can be. You can do pancakes in their healthy... Oh, Hollandaise!
Starting point is 00:06:43 If I'm making a delicious buttery Hollandaise, I'll stick it in there. I don't think, I think I speak on behalf of the whole Luke and Pete Show community here when I say it, I don't really associate you with making a homemade Hollandaise. Yeah, well, Hollandaise is always quite hard to find in the supermarkets. If you're going to like a Sainsbury's or a Tesco Express, you can never find the bloody stuff So you have to you have to make your own you have to improvise you have to get eggs and mustard and From I had a tip I can't where I read it but from a kind of well renowned respected chef who said
Starting point is 00:07:20 Never or never order a hollandaise in a restaurant. This is a really really good restaurant, right? Okay, what this could be about hold is? Because they make it in advance otherwise and it can be dangerous could be really food poisoning. Oh, okay. That's interesting He raw eggs you're sitting there, right? Yeah. Yeah true. Oh interesting. Oh, there you go I've been dread to think how long your horn. They're sitting around you. I've been used. I've been using a lot of I used a tick-tock, I used a TikTok ramen hack where you get like ramen and you take the flavor packet out of the pot noodle sort of flavor packet and you put in a bowl with I think a bit of garlic, a bit of chopped garlic, a bit of mayonnaise, like Kewpie mayonnaise,
Starting point is 00:08:03 the sort of stuff that they use, I think the egg yolk instead of the egg white. The proper mayonnaise, yeah. The good stuff. And you mix it all together, maybe a bit of hot sauce as well, and then you bang an egg in there, and you basically put the ramen on top and it's really creamy. So I cannot recommend that enough the old TikTok. That sounds really good actually. The TikTok ramen egg hack worth digging out because it's blooming lovely. What's interesting is that and I'll come on to proper mayonnaise in a minute because I've just gone back from a European sojourn with Mr Andy Brassill. Oh did you bring your
Starting point is 00:08:38 bag of jar sausage? I'm going to come on to that as well in a minute. Before I do, you said the words then, TikTok ramen hack. TikTok ramen hack, give a dog a bone. When you think about it, when we were both, say, 18, 19 years old, none of those words would have meant anything to us. And and it's weird how some in some ways we are almost speaking a totally different language just because of the passing of time aren't we? Hack meant meant to hack off. Foul someone in football? Yeah, I'll hack someone down yeah. TikTok
Starting point is 00:09:14 obviously nothing you know the only TikToks that were going on were on your commoner garden watches or clocks. Ramen it was very much pot noodle of a highway in the Great Britain of the 90s. I'll tell you how far away I was from understanding what a ramen is, I didn't have an olive until I came to London. So there's absolutely no way in 1998 am I, if someone said to me what's ramen? It would be like a university challenge quiz question that I saw on the telly. My olive levels were very low but I tell you what, I had a lot of blamons in my life. There was a lot of blamons kicking around, a bit
Starting point is 00:09:48 of Nesquik as well. Not homemade jelly. A lot of homemade jelly, the little cubes and stuff. Those little blocks. Oh beautiful. You know what you know you said that time you were in that shop and someone was buying a beer and they said oh I'm a heiny man and you thought it was the coolest thing ever. Can I just bring something similar, similar sort of energy to the table, which is that when I was a kid, I remember seeing the older brother of a friend of mine on, on the, in the street where we used to play eating one of those boxes of jellies, but eating it raw before it had been cooked. Because you know, you used to break it into cubes and put it in boiling water and then let it set and that's how you made jelly.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Right, okay. Do you remember that? Do you know what I'm talking about here? Just say you don't and I'll tell you. I remember the cubes, I remember the cubes where you set them as jelly, yeah. Yeah, he was eating them just raw right out of the box and I remember thinking this guy is fucking cool. Have you never done that?
Starting point is 00:10:43 No, but later on in my life Pete, I came to terms with it and thought, oh yeah, I'll have a bit of that, thanks very much. But at the time I was thinking this guy doesn't play motherfucking role. This guy doesn't have time to make jelly. No, he's digging out the box. I mean, I guess you did have to wait around quite a lot. With Jelly Bites very niche, you did have to wait around for it to cool. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Not only cool, but then... Have my mate got time for that? No, exactly. Exactly. I don't know why. I'll tell you what else is another, another, another similar example of coolness in the kind of late 80s, early 90s in the suburban way was I also saw the same guy. This is how cool this guy was. And walking down the street, I don't know when it was a few weeks later or whatever, eating biscuits out of the packet. Right, OK. I okay, I mean that that is the very definition of a naughty lad though isn't it? Like if you if you're in like a group of people and someone's eating, Maryland cookies are really
Starting point is 00:11:35 really good example that they're the sort of cookies that you can eat about a hundred of and it just slides right down you are absolutely fine with that and nobody seems to... What do you think that was up until about five minutes ago? Were they Maryland cookies? Jaffa cakes, same deal. It kind of looks like a condom Luke. It looks like you're holding on to a big condom. What was that five minutes ago? You know what Luke I don't want to know. However excited you get about Maryland cookies is very much your business. It was Jaffa cakes. It was Jaffa cakes. I mean you can't, with a cup of tea, I think two things you could
Starting point is 00:12:09 eat I could eat a hundred of very easily. Maybe not a hundred, fifty. I could eat fifty Jaffa cakes. Like my brother-in-law wrote fifty two chicken nuggets. That's, that is, that would, that, you're never shitting again. You are never shitting again. He stank of chicken nuggets for like a week. But carry on, you could do 50 Jaffa cakes, easy. I could do 50 Jaffa cakes, easy. Yeah, I can also do 50 fish fingers. 50 fish fingers.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It depends, because I think, you know, we're gonna venture into the world of fish fingers, then we're gonna end up talking about it in quite a lot of detail, because I had fish, I had a homemade fish finger sandwich for lunch today right and I noticed just coincidentally we had three different types of fish fingers in the freezer so you're gonna need to clarify what you mean by that. Commoner garden kind of like budget
Starting point is 00:12:58 white label fish finger ones yeah yeah but I mean what, so you have like the chunky fancy ones that are like almost goujons? The chunky battered ones range from Bird's Eye. I'm telling you, is the size of... It's probably... So I would say a standard issue common organic fish finger is the size of what? A club biscuit, I would say. Yeah. But then for those further afield, about the size of like two KitKat fingers together you would say yes, right And so the birds I also do a jumbo battered range Which we are a fan of in this house and Sainsbury's taste the difference do similar which are far longer and a little bit thicker And there's no I'm telling you right now mate, and I love you very very much indeed
Starting point is 00:13:42 I don't take any pleasure in saying this there's no way on earth you're eating 50 of them no I'm saying yeah but that but my point would be that if you are battering without bread crumbs a fish finger that is not a fish finger that's a tiny goujon that's a that's a fish that's a fish goujon yeah I know you're saying I I think if I'll be totally honest with you I'm torn here because if I was gonna be a fish finger purist yeah I would have to be honest with you, I'm torn here because if I was gonna be a fish finger purist I would have to be honest with you and say it has to be breadcrumbed but I personally prefer a battered one
Starting point is 00:14:11 Right, but again I've got... So I could do 50 Jaffa Cakes piece a piece I could do probably, of those original fish fingers, I'd probably do 30 Yeah, I've got to think, I do have to, I'd need tomato sauce to get it down. I would need tomato sauce. Or that beautiful dill burger sauce that you get. There's nothing better than that burger sauce that you get from most supermarkets these days. That Heinz burger sauce. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, so it's almost like a combination of ketchup and mayonnaise with dill in it. Yeah. Like a pickle dill pickle flavour type. God bless Dylan for that. He's done a lovely job he really has so you could do how many I'm gonna come on to Andy Brassel in a minute it'd be delighted to be mentioned on the back of this how many serious serious football journalists Andy Brassel and how many do you reckon you could do a whole packet of chocolate hobnobs? The thing is, hobnobs are quite aughty, aren't they? They're quite thick and girthy, and as soon as liquid hits them,
Starting point is 00:15:10 they start to expand a little bit. They're a little greasier than normal, so I would have to really get involved with the antacids. Speaking of serious football journalists and sports journalists, Vish said that he had his first antacid at 31. Yeah, I would say so. I was about the same. Wow. What a life you guys have led. I find, as people who know my output fairly well will understand, my weight fluctuates quite a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:37 If I'm on the slimmer side, I don't need antacid at all. Just how it goes. Interesting. Hmm. Hmm. Just out of goes. I think, yeah, I'm also a Renny man. I told you before, I don't need to go for the high end, in depth dark stuff that you have to have. The preventative stuff. I'm not buying my antacids off the dark web. I don't know if I bought them. This still does. Andy Brasill and I went to Paris and then on to Brussels last week.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Brussels, Brussels? To watch some football matches. And I'll be honest with you, you could perhaps ask me if I had a good time or not. I'll let you be the judge of that when I tell you that on one of the days I had three separate sittings of Friess and Mayo in one day. You didn't get involved with a bit of sausage along with that? I don't know what this jar, what's this jar comes from. Oh no it's not a jar sausage. We'll talk about the jar sausage. I'm sure though we'll come into that. But I think with a...
Starting point is 00:16:30 If you're in that kind of place and you're having a few sittings of of frites and mayonnaise, surely, surely you need the meat to go along with it. No that's Germany, not Belgium. Yeah but you still need a bit of meat. Belgium is frites, mussels and chocolate, isn you still need a bit of meat. You need a bit of schnitzel. Belgium is freaks, mussels and chocolate, innit? Well, don't have them all together. I was very upset.
Starting point is 00:16:52 My obsession with a certain meal, certain food that you can't get in the UK is a Japanese ice cream. Actually a Korean ice cream called Koolish. And my Twitter account... Don't present it like you've never mentioned before you talk about every fucking yeah, okay So my Twitter account is just people sending me pictures of them in Japan eating coolish, but good news It has reached as far as Atlanta Georgia So the people of Atlanta, Georgia can go down to their local Chinese supermarket and buy Buy some coolish so that's good news for me
Starting point is 00:17:23 at their local Chinese supermarket and buy some Koolish. So that's good news for me. But so I'm like, right, okay, I reckon I've got a year and a half before I've got Koolish in this country and I cannot wait. It must be. I mean, we're surrounded by all sorts of it. That health crisis, surely. Surely the tariffs can't, Trump's tariffs can't go that far. Surely they only go in one direction and we can get some delicious Koolish on the way.
Starting point is 00:17:43 But I did see this jar sausage that sort of came to my attention on Instagram, which was literally a bloke, putting a jar, unscrewing a jar basically of what looked like paté, putting it in a hot oven for like 15 minutes, and the patty just started you know like when you open a joke shop tin of beans and there's like a fucking sausage flying out of it like it was like that but it was meat and very slow and greasy and it looked it looks like turd out of a pipe but it but
Starting point is 00:18:22 it's to go with a you automatically like it it's a cool it's to go with a German kind of like bread sort of thing so you have a bit of bread and you have one of these jar it rises like a Freibentos pie out of a jar. Do you like a Freibentos pie? I do like a Freibentos pie I wish they were just a little bit more filling them I know there are like more like heavier filling options, but there's still not enough fillings in there for me. But yeah, I mean, they float out of these jars and people you cut slices off them like it's a big sausage.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And it's it's really, really good stuff. But have you bought one yet? No, I tried to three or four times, three or four different websites. None of them would deliver to outside the EU. Which is presumably some kind of safety issue, or I don't bloody know, but I could get it sent to Ireland. Erm, for obvious reasons, but I couldn't get it sent to the UK, and I feel like I've really... I thought, you know what, I'll get a load of those, that'll be a nice Christmas gift for the er, Ramblers. Couldn't get them, so you've missed out Luke. I bet you're absolutely good. I was getting Wagyu steak two Christmases ago and now I'm getting a jarred sausage.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You're getting sausage in a jar. I'm drinking out of an area later, deal with it. Listen, Pete, we don't talk about Georgia, the state of Georgia anymore after they flip back to Trump. Flipping it back, yeah. It's good that like a few random Mcdandos just get to decide the destiny of the whole world, isn't it? It's mad that it's come to this, isn't it? I think we deserve it. Yeah, I think we do too. Should we just get on board? Should we just get on board the whole Trump space? Because it just seems to be that everyone seems to have a nice time. One of the big discussions I read after the election was that, oh you look at how influential
Starting point is 00:20:09 the right-wing online ecosystem is, right? And there's no real liberal slash left-wing equivalent. Right. And I thought that's pretty interesting actually, pretty interesting observation. I read an infographic, I saw an infographic which kind of, you know, did each, the size of each influence is following with the size of a circle, right? That kind of infographic which kind of, you know, did each, the size of each influence is following with the size of a circle, right? That kind of infographic.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And the right-wing ones were just absolutely gigantic compared to the left-wing ones, all of which I'd never heard of. And then I just, in my mind's eye, I just got a picture of this riverside and you and me. And then, and thought, well. With the great white hop for. What chance has anyone got?
Starting point is 00:20:43 You're drinking out of a NutriBullet, I'm in the living room of my flat because it's... We haven't got it in us to be... We haven't got it in us to do it. I think ultimately we've had the rules of the game set to us. We've decided to play the game, we've lost again because it's their game. But I would say that like it's very hard to confect nonsense at the scale that is gonna be as sexy as Haitians eating dogs and cats do you know what I mean like there's no... So you say it's a failure of imagination on our side?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah but there's no silly nonsense there's nothing that enrages or enrages an electorate than you know the deep racism that lives within us all. What is there in hunger? Could we just be really good at cooking for the left? Look at the right, they're drinking ranch dressing. That's what they're doing. They're also pounding beers mate, which looks a lot like a lot of fun. And they're pounding really light beers.
Starting point is 00:21:46 What have we got on the left side? We've got some lovely French, we've got some continental lagers that we really like. They're not doing ten minutes on fucking how sore their tummy is and they need the antacids. It's a good point actually, no. If their stomachs are painful they just fire a couple of bullets into them. Have a bit of that. Don't tread on me. Stomach. And then do five or six ancestral tenants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And then hoover up a huge amount of testosterone. It's a sad thing. It is a sad thing because, you know, I understand that people are fucking upset about things and the world is shit for a lot of people. And what I don't understand is how they think someone like that guy's gonna sort their problems out but they chose that so I guess that's how it comes that's what it comes down to really my interest in my here's my hot take if in case you want it right just quickly don't turn this into a politics episode but we did promise we'd say something about it so we'll just do a quick bit on it and then we're going to do batteries after the break whatever you say will be undercut with me drinking out of an aerolayer, so I don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Well then just keep quiet then. Just drink your coffee out of your nutribullet. My take would be the big message that the Democrats gave was defend democracy, right? And the problem is many, many people can't distinguish between democracy and democratic institutions. And so therefore they think, why the fuck would they wanna defend all that shit that doesn't do anything for me? Like I hate democracy, as you are describing democracy,
Starting point is 00:23:19 I hate it, it doesn't work for me. And so I wanna vote for something that's gonna fuck things up. And interestingly enough, even among Republican voters, the number one issue in the exit poll was democracy. So when the exit polls come out and it said, oh, the number one issue was going to be democracy, not immigration, not the economy, democracy, everyone was sort of rubbing their hands together going, well, okay, well that just means that people don't want to vote for Trump then because
Starting point is 00:23:43 he's a danger to democracy but what actually happened was those people who were talking about democracy being the most important thing they broke like 73 percent for Trump. Yeah but I mean like the exit polls are always the exit kind of information is always kind of uh you never get the detail that that you need for it for a very long time and so many I'm just hearing like day after day of like Democrat kind of think pieces about you know the failure of people that go on Joel Rogan and the failure of this kind of like you know a left-wing equivalent network and I do agree that pretty much every successful kind of YouTube, video game streamer, political sort of, just some soft power extender of the Americans are Trumpian
Starting point is 00:24:27 in the way that they kind of like... Even if they're not Trumpian directly, they're kind of a champion of almost like Republican libertarian ideals, right? Yeah. And just hero worshipping rich people and all that bullshit. But like, I think... That's why I here I worship you. No exactly. But I would say like, I mean it's clear that there are, there's probably if we sort of step back and sort of go, right fine, it doesn't matter what has taken place here, at the end of the day, one side is an incumbent, one side is the deputy head of this organisation that people
Starting point is 00:25:09 want to vote against. The economy may be on the road to recovery, although you're obviously not going to feel that in your pocketbook as you said for a little while. People are angry, people are disenfranchised, Covid kicked the shit out of everyone's finances and no one's got any work and everyone's skinned. And the person who's trying to sort of take it away from Trump was basically a man who cosplays as a financier, as a man who seems to know what he's talking about when it comes to money. And looking back four years ago, I was in a better financial state than I am now they only had a hundred days to fucking introduce themselves to the to an electorate so like that is just not enough time you can have all the money in the world but like as far as I could tell from
Starting point is 00:25:55 from from afar it was just a lot of texts nobody seemed to know who she fucking was and that's really really important at a time well exactly but and and god it leaves you cold those kind of like Cardi B, Beyonce, whoever the fuck else, Katy Perry kind of appearances and stuff like it just it they look like the elite with those people sort of hanging around them they look like the best of them. It's all the same mistakes that were made in 2016 right? Yeah but but I would say that it's whatever happened I thought I thought she ran a really disciplined campaign from what I could tell. From what she was given, she did the best she could possibly good in that amount of time. But for everybody who got interviewed
Starting point is 00:26:33 in those exit polls, nobody knew who Kamala Harris was and nobody knew what she fucking stood for. All they knew from her is that she was a border czar that fucked everything up that let a lot of people in the country, etc and it just seems like that's just not enough time to mount any kind of to turn that to turn that massive massive donald trump is the fucker-upper and the man who knows the the economy and the man who's going to sort out every fucking problem around the world but of course he's fucking not he's going to he's going to open that fucking tapper money he's going gonna play golf all day and let JD Vance and his fucking Project 2025 wankers take abortions away from women. That's all that's gonna fucking happen. Because he has no interest in staying out of prison and that's why he went for another
Starting point is 00:27:17 tilt. He doesn't like doing the job and that's the best thing about it. He will have to attend the odd meeting and that will annoy him. That last bit was really spoken from the heart because that's how you feel about meetings. Every time. To be honest, I love a meeting and I get so much out of it, but because of my past behaviour I don't get invited to many. I don't disagree with anything you said with the exception of no one knew who Kamala Harris was. I think that's a real
Starting point is 00:27:45 figly for Democrats to make themselves feel better. I think they did know who she was. I totally agree I didn't know what she stood for because to be totally honest, I don't really think the Democrats do stand for anything. As someone said a while back just after the result, they were caught in dick chaining. Do you know, they were courting like Dick Cheney Do you know what I mean? It's like you ain't gonna get anywhere with core voters who have a liberal or left-wing persuasion or even a centre-left persuasion by just deciding that because you're all gonna unify against this perceived enemy in Donald Trump that Dick Cheney is gonna be your pal. But were they
Starting point is 00:28:22 trying to get Dick Cheney? And all this Cheney obviously came on because she's probably the only fucking responsible Republican out there. But they kept him well away from it. He admitted that he'd be voting that way. It was like a weird online thing a while back. At some point in the campaign where they were doing this kind of Dick Cheney is brat type thing. It was embarrassing. Yeah, but I mean that is mental. That's a mental thing to do. That's what I'm saying. Because who are you getting with that? Like, because there are no normal Republicans left in the country. Everyone's gone mad.
Starting point is 00:28:52 There are a few, I know a few, quite close to one or two actually who are normal. Right. And who, I don't agree with Republican politics generally, but you know, if we're talking about things being not absolutes and being a sliding scale, I think it's possible to not agree with Republican politics generally, but you know if we're talking about things being not absolutes and being a sliding scale I think it's possible to not agree with Republican politics generally, but also think it's better than what's actually happening I think I think I think what I mean by that is there are no normal Republican
Starting point is 00:29:15 Senators left because they've all They've all had to bend the knee After the back of this, will you finally bend the knee to me? Well what I I very much... Look, I'll happily admit that I have been loving the amount of people filming themselves crying on TikTok. I mean, I'm sorry. You know my politics and anyone who's listened to the fucking show
Starting point is 00:29:36 or any of the show being like people know that I'm a bleeding heart, fucking wet liberal, right? Fine. But I will happily watch people crying on the internet about and screaming and just absolutely debasing themselves. You're absolutely right. But Pete, the other thing is that those reactions and you know that family you see that liberal family who've been brainwashed by their parents to sing songs about Donald Trump that's why you're losing.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah. That's why you're losing. Because you are wet as fuck. People look at that and go my goodness me not only am I going to vote for Donald Trump, I might when I join ISIS. That's what they're thinking because it's absolutely horrific. So I think you're in agreeance on that. It's a dark time.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Joking aside, it's a dark time, but British people like to joke about things when they're going bad, don't they? I tell you what's worth a watch. I think it was, I think it was the Daily Show basically did a lot of... Because you know, the narrative is that the Democrats and you know, pretty much every kind of left-leaning political group in the West are obsessed with identity politics and you know, the trans debate and stuff like that. They actually went through and I don't, I genuinely don't believe that. I genuinely think that that is something that the other side defined
Starting point is 00:30:46 The left as and the left Have kind of found themselves in stupid debates about fuck-all Because they because they they've just fallen in fallen into their into their trap effectively but the Daily Show did sort of go down so I thought right you think you think the the the the the The Democrats are running on like, you know, gender identity politics? And they just went through and played all of these ads where it's like literally blokes going, I have a gun!
Starting point is 00:31:15 And they almost like out-Republican the Republicans going, I don't want to, I want male sports people to play with male sports people etc etc and every sort of like Democrat advert was just like I like guns and I like farming and I like and they were basically campaigning like completely apart from all of that and it's well worth a watch because it's that's just not how Democrats run their campaign well it's just how the Republicans have successfully defined the Democrats but that's not at any point what many of the Democratic and losing Democratic outfits went with.
Starting point is 00:31:53 They also just let the Republicans define the parameters of the game, and they all clutch their pearls and wring their hands when some right wing figure says something that's controversial or assumed to be unacceptable and gets away with it and yet nothing ever changes. They never ever change. And the worst thing about it is like, one of the things that's also really interesting about it is that the argument always is that money underpins politics to a basically an obscene extent in the US, which of course it does. But, she massively out-fund-rows Trump, and it didn't make any difference, right? And Donald Trump won every single swing state. It's kind of crazy, really. It's like Brewster's millions. I bet they had to spend all the money before. It's like in 100 days. Oh my god right we're gonna talk I should take a short break and then we'll be back
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Starting point is 00:34:03 It's the local Pete Shaw and I'm Pete Donaldson and as promised, the secret to a ton of life. Ha ha ha, losers, you all using turned off, ha ha, left early dickheads. Right, Alex has got in touch with battery brand Great Cell Extra Heavy Duty. While clearing out the bowl of odds and ends that surely every kitchen in the country has an example of, I came across these Great Cell Extra Heavy Duty batteries. I've little hope they are a new player but I'm relieved to inform you that they contain neither mercury nor cadmium. Enjoy the shorter great deal. Best wishes Alex. Great Cell, great picture, lovely little mouse mat next to a mouse, beautiful.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah no no lead either which is no less yeah. See, batteries must be the only thing that say what they haven't got in them. Yeah, I feel like they should... I feel like they're not telling us the whole story. It's sort of a lot of misdirection, isn't there? It's like saying don't look in the shed, isn't it? You can go wherever you want, just don't look in the shed. We didn't eat them. Yeah, didn't need it. We didn't burn them. Great Sales are't eat it. Yeah, we didn't burn them. We didn't burn them. Great Cells are not a new player, I'm afraid.
Starting point is 00:35:08 That's a shame. At least they are the fourth. This is the fourth time we've had them sent in, so you're the fourth person to send in Great Cell. Starting off way back in April of 2018 with our friend Craig, who sent them in back then. So yeah, I'm afraid not. Lovely. I think you might have the same Mousemat as me. Yeah, I think you might have the same mouse mat as me.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah, I think you might have the same mouse mat as me. There you go, that's a consolation prize. Alex, yeah, is it a Razer? Has he got like a weird... I don't like the Razer logo, although they make great... He can't reply to you, Pete, he's just emailing him. Ian, Ian, Ian! Hey chaps, Bonfire Night 6 year old wants to light a bubble gun. You know the score.
Starting point is 00:35:46 This might be the laziest entry yet, but to my delight the battery compartment was see-through and I don't recall seeing Ignite double A's before, so I thought it worth a try. Cheers, Ian with two I's. Thanks to Ian with two I's. Erm, yeah, I mean Ian's not taking it out of the battery compartment, but we can see, rather coquettishly the Ignite battery emblem on the side of the batteries so yeah you're rather delicious. That sounds to me you can look but you can't touch. It's very it's a little bit Amsterdam sex workout for me. It is.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Imagine if you went down the Reaper barn in Hamburg and all you were seeing behind the glass was just big batteries. Yeah is the Reaper barn in Hamburg all that bad because I know it was like, it's the Beatlesplaza, because I've been down it and I thought it was just full of absolute grot and I couldn't see any slash fine. It's just the entertainment district isn't it? Yeah that's what I thought I thought he wasn't like yeah good good indie nights in Hamburg I heartily recommend Hamburg. Obviously. That's why you couldn't find anything because you're in a fucking indie bar again. The Franz Ferdinand.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Ignites, new player. I think Ignite are a new player. I think that's a new player. So I can congratulate you, Ian, with two Y's. You've grown very, very regular correspondent and we're very grateful to have you correspondent. You lazy bastard. You've been rewarded with a new player there.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Yeah, good stuff. And good to see what I think is a draining sort of pad from a coffee machine I want to say in the background. Nick says dear looking picture OG listeners first time correspondent Nick here. I cannot believe there is a single listener who's been listening from the start and has not got in touch from dealing Kent. on a recent cross-channel raid the wife And I wife I have access to and I visit the charming city of Arras in Northern France home to lots of fascinating World War one history that I'm sure look will be happily down out just as I did And naturally the first thing I did was check in to our bougie at City Center Airbnb even before stocking up on baguettes and confit was of
Starting point is 00:37:47 course to check the batteries in the TV remote. To my delight, I already know this isn't a new player, Sun Padau. Padau, Padau, I feel it in my bones, Padau, Sun Padau. Any good? Any room left for these? the I think it's a Kylie No idea what song you were singing a very discordant entry to the Kylie It's just it's a lot a lot of Kylie sort of later work is like I'm still fucking around You wanna have sex. I'm still having sex. You know all right fine good We've all seen your bum.
Starting point is 00:38:25 She's a bit of a national treasure here though isn't she? Even though she's not straight. She is a bit of a national treasure, yeah. I think she, remember that DVD, that documentary about her and the lead singer in excess. I do remember, I haven't seen it. It's quite good because she just pops up and she's just hanging out with Michael Hutchins. She is like proper, like, you know, sort of white bread kind of just innocent, Ozzy soap star. And he's like dirty rock man. It's a really weird little kind of connection. What would you say you never know what you're
Starting point is 00:39:09 going to get on any given day. I feel like we always know what we're going to get with you. Sam Padau is not a new player I'm afraid. Sam Padau Nick. But Nick if it's any consolation, Nick without a C by the way, N-I-K, that's ringing the alarm bells for me. But you are only the second person to send them in. So all is not lost.
Starting point is 00:39:29 It's not a terrible effort, but it's not a new player, Nick. Thank you for trying anyway. And good pictures, lovely corduroy trousers and an excellent Airbnb as a background. So beautiful. Kylie pops up in the fictionalized biographical film of Nick Cave's life as well called I think 20,000 days and nights, which is brilliant. Oh, right appears at some point one point and
Starting point is 00:39:51 What it's fictionalized? The whole point is the whole idea of it is a movie is it said day in the life of Nick cave But it's right. He obviously plays himself right and his People in his life coming up appear in the film as themselves it's like a fictionalized thing so Warren Ezra's in it, Blixer Bargards in it, Carly's in it Brian Winston's in it, very poignantly his two twin sons are in it at the end whilst Moxie sadly died, but it's a really good movie I'd recommend it it's a fantastic film. Lovely stuff. Alright then well that's your
Starting point is 00:40:23 film homework of the week. If you'd like to get to the show. We should start putting the things that we talk about in the show notes of the episode I reckon. Oh people don't listen, we're not influencers Luke. I've saw the rest of politics do it and I've seen a couple of leaks the other day and it worked quite well. They're playing the O2. Maybe we would be playing the O2 if we did that. Yeah, we can all make wild predictions about Kamala Harris winning the whole thing by a stretch. I actually got to the point where I actually felt a little bit sorry for Roy Stewart after that.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Oh only because Alistair kicked him. He looked like genuinely heartbroken about it. Maybe you dropped a ton on it. What are you drinking out of your Nalgene? I thought you were drinking some medicine. Right let's get out of here. You would never have sympathy for Roy No, let's not get out of here, because it's come to an end, finished. Right, OK.
Starting point is 00:41:08 You would never have sympathy for Rory Stewart because he's a Tory, right? No, no, I like Rory Stewart. But that's what the Tory party used to be. It used to be like normal toffs. You know what I mean? Like normal free-think toffs. Now it's just children who want the money without actually wanting to take charge of the country. That's what I find the modern party so objectionable. And will continue to do so, I'm sure. And you'll hear it first on the Luke and Pete show. I mean, the other side aren't doing great at the moment either. Anyway, we'll be back on Monday! Look after sales, get your thing out your thing and go vote in your local elections next time they're coming round It's too late for that Pete
Starting point is 00:41:46 No, there's more ones in the future There's more ones in the future If you're still in line in the US election you can still vote Stay in line if you're still in line Is that true? Because you can still vote Right, okay, beautiful Not now, obviously
Starting point is 00:41:59 Not now, not now, we're too late Back then you could, yeah You could turn this tide You could turn this red tide Right, this tide. You turn this red tide. Right, we'll be back on Monday. Bye bye, ta ta. The Luke and Pete show is a stack production and part of the A-Cast creator network.

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