The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 109: Tape based solutions

Episode Date: October 21, 2018

109 is the atomic number for meitnerium, and don't you ever forget. Got it? Good. Now that's out of the way, let's all listen to chat from Pete about his recent visit to Zimbabwe, and let's all wax lyrical about musical subjects including Prince, Jeff Lynne, Pink Floyd and, just to keep Pete happy, punk.Elsewhere there's chat about who's got the deepest voice, prizes to be won on Bullseye (again), some emails about mystery energy drinks and yet more parental lies. What fun!To get in touch: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I can't find my silence button We're back I was sat here It's the Luke and Pete show episode I can't find my silence button. We're back. I was sat here. It's the Luke and Pete show episode. 109 is the atomic number of metenorium. Metenorium? I don't have it.

Mitenorium? Mitenorium? Mitenorium. Ring your wife. Ring your wife. You've had too much to drink. She's not a chemist, but I will ring her anyway. Come and pick me up.

I just trust her in anything kind of like chemical, geological. Anyway, it's an element on the periodic table, so it's probably quite a good answer for a game show

like Pointless, something like that. Mike Nerium, I think it's pronounced. Mike Nerium? Mike Nerium, good guy. Wasn't he on Look North

in the 80s? I think he was the bass player for Def Leppard. Oh, I spent this morning watching Prince while my guitar gently weeps. Prince? We had Ramble Prep to do. I had Luke and Pete show emails to compress

into a manageable A4 sheet. But I sat down and just watched for a good 10 minutes Prince blowing everyone out of the water. What would Prince's atomic number be? Sexarium. And it would be an atomic number of funk. Pete, did you know that Mike Narium's got unknown chemical properties? Are we still on that?

Yeah, I'll close the play for you. It's got unknown chemical properties. It's got unknown chemical properties. Much like yourself. That's what I wrote on my Tinder profile. Unknown chemical properties. I've got a problem. It is episode 109.

Pete Danton over there has been watching videos of Prince on the internet. A very, very, I'm going to say reasonable, but actually admirable way to waste a bit of time. I think so, yeah. People still don't know where that guitar went at the end. He throws it in the air and it just disappears. I mean, everyone talked about it when he died, but I think it's worth remembering.

at the end he throws it in the air and it just disappears I mean everyone talked about it when he died but I think it's worth remembering it's worth revisiting the George Harrison Hall of Fame

kind of anniversary thing I don't really know what it's called Exhibition Exhibition It's the word you're looking for isn't it No No okay

No it was a George Harrison George Harrison's son there it was the bloke out of ELO it was like Tom Petty was there Jeff Lyn You always tell me I look like Jeff Lyn how could you forget his name

If you had like little sort of smoky big sunglasses from the 70s you'd look a bit Jefflyn-esque I can find them I'll find them I'll dig them out

I'd like to get you in front of a big mixing desk and take a picture of you in black and white and go this guy discovered hip hop speaking of

we're like oh it wasn't really the guys from New York it was some guy in the 70s who discovered this noise I'd bloody love to be

I have that attributed to me I'll be honest when I was at the Pink Floyd exhibition at the V&A I love Pink Floyd and I went there a year before last my wife Mimi took me there for my birthday and one thing that was fascinating

I mean you're not going to enjoy it if it's not if you're not a Pink Floyd fan but one thing that and I hope I haven't talked about this before but if I have that was a big hammer it's time to revisit it got to the point with Pink Floyd where,

um, I can't remember the exact year, I suppose around the mid seventies, early seventies, maybe that they were, they couldn't, so the songs they were writing, there were no sort of physical way of manifesting them.

So they basically had to start inventing their own instruments and their own mixing desks. And they've got like, um, and they've got their own like, um, homemade mixing desks in the exhibition there. Surely you're loving that. People making their own mixing desks.

You love a bit of that. You love wires and cables and that kind of stuff. Isn't that really innovative don't you think? Aren't they just transistors or capacitors? I can't remember.

They're just reduced current don't they? I mean like what is a mixing desk to... Speak to Dave Gilmore mate. He's got a boat on the Thames he's got a little go and ask him

I just think I love technical stuff but I also love punk so I'm torn that's what you're thinking that's what you're thinking I just don't like I just think Pink Floyd

I think it's the singles I don't like I think that's the problem they're gone for too long and then they have a bloke going eat your pudding oh even me

yeah that's true even a Pink Floyd fan such as myself does occasionally think I'll turn it in They're gone for too long and then they have a bloke going, eat your pudding! Oh, even me. Yeah, that's true. Even a Pink Floyd fan such as myself does occasionally think I'll turn it in. Turn it in? That's fine, isn't it? This could be three minutes. And going back to Prince very quickly, Andy Brassel of the Radio Stakhanov Parish,

he's got a new show now at the match. I've still not endorsed it. I'm going to. I'm off on my own next week. I'm back off again. Listen to a couple of them he goes off all around Europe and beyond

and listens to sorry and visits football matches anyway his wife is a huge Prince fan right and they went to an

exhibition it might have even been at was it Paisley what's it called Paisley Park or whatever it's called in Minnesota

and they in the exhibition they had all these costumes but the problem andy besides but the problem is um because of his height and because of his dress sense it was basically just like looking at an old woman's costumes it basically just reminded me of my gran because they're all like it's all like floral and like chiffon and they're all tiny because i think he was about five foot three that's's what Prince has left behind. That's his legacy. What a boy.

Recently on the Luke and Pete show, we've talked a bit about Tintagel in Cornwall, which Pete, you didn't think was a real place. We talked about swords. We've talked about Ironman triathlons. We talked about a mystery man in Nicaragua who still hasn't turned up on the emails. In the week. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com. And we talked about the difference between showers in the UK

and showers in the United States of America. That's what we've been doing recently. If you haven't heard those episodes, it doesn't matter. It does not matter. Because we repeat stuff all the time. Massively. And we forget that we've said. To be honest, I work with a couple of other people who forget they've told a story.

And I think I do the same. But I pre-do a kind of little speech every time i tell a story by sort of saying i've probably told you this before just on the off chance i have yeah um cover your back yeah um doesn't stop us on this show does it no it really really doesn't i met someone once who pronounced nicaragua near right nicaragua pretty local sounds local yeah and he wasn't no right and that's what made me it's like me going I'm off to Nihon yeah the rule should be Peter

that if you speak the local language right you are perfectly entitled to pronounce it in that way okay so what we do on The Constant

another one of our shows I'm happy with James Horncastle going and the problem is with Francesco Dotti because he speaks Italian right so he understands it

you can't be coming along saying you know saying if I did it it would be ridiculous yeah can i have a cheese yeah in america they call those croissant croissant croissant yeah lovely um pete you have been and finally actually very quickly before i say this um if you are the sort of person who emails in to complain, saying, oh, that story you told on episode 107, you also told that story on episode 30. That's like a year ago.

Yeah. We've been doing this for a while. It's a great story. It's a great story. It's a great story forever. So good, they told it twice. Pete Donaldson, here's a story we haven't heard before. What?

You have been in the beautiful African country of Zimbabwe. I have. I can confirm it is indeed an African country. I can indeed confirm it's a bit of a shit show, to be honest. If you are visiting Zimbabwe in the next few weeks, bring loads of dollars and loads of diesel, because you can't get either. Presumably it's a beautiful country with beautiful people, though, Pete.

Oh, mate, it was brilliant. But I mean, obviously, so basically... You were going there for a charitable reason. This time last year, I was in Kenya in a place called Kasumu. I had trouble with a high water table and flooding. Toilets being destroyed. Children getting dysentery and diarrhea all the time.

Leading to malnutrition. Here, completely different story. The land is completely arid. The rainy season, thanks to climate change, I just want to get one of those fucking climate change denied senators and just drop him in the middle

of some of the places we went and just to show him how different and just to talk to some of the local farmers. Bring it home to him. The rainy season used to last for about four months, three and a half, four months, and now you're lucky if you get two.

And just talking to and staying with, actually, a couple of the people who live there. We stayed with a woman called, I can't remember my name now, Talani, Talani. She was part of a family who was quite, fairly well off for that area. It's in the middle of nowhere.

It's kind of from Bulaweo heading west to the Botswana border in a place called Mafa. We were staying with her. She used to be quite well off. She used to be able to grow crops. She used to have livestock. She had cash crops as well, I think, as well. Crops you could sell at markets like carrots and watermelon

and stuff like that. I didn't think she was actually growing cash i understand i mean god goodness knows zimbabwe and dollar isn't worth nothing so you may as well yeah probably more more valuable um uh so we stayed with her and her husband uh went to south africa i believe got aids came back died she's actually on the land in in in a grave um her eldest son uh it was 24 he's in the same situation um there's a whole generation of men who went out to work or just left um and came back either either with terrible diseases or they they just didn't come back um and so these whole communities are just led by these incredible women who have to keep the shit together. And I guess the story happens all around the world,

but, um, there's just not enough water. Are you out there to sort of raise awareness of this problem? No, well, this is the thing we were there to take a look at and report on the, the work that the charity,

fine charity, practical action, uh, are doing there. So they're doing this incredible stuff. So they're using solar, solar power, uh, which isn't a new technology but it's

certainly way more refined than it was 10 years ago certainly in that part of the world. You'll occasionally see some of the more remote houses

having little kind of solar panels just to power a mobile phone or something like that. Are they provided by a charity or are they available

at a company? No I think they're relatively cheap they're like 20 quid or something like that. Are they provided by a charity or are they available? No, I think they're relatively cheap. They're like 20 quid or something like that. And they power like a simple mobile phone or something and not much else. There's no electricity really in there. It's out in the sticks.

It's incredible. It's a real experience. It was a real experience. And so they've kind of basically funded these massive solar panel arrays that are wiring these entire kind of pumps that are pumping water out of these underground rivers. So there's underground rivers with boreholes that people have access to

so that the villagers have these boreholes that people can go over and pump water out of. Oh, my God. You know in the 80s where you'd see Comic Relief and you'd see women coming back from the pump or coming back from the watering hole with carrying tanks in their head? Yeah, yeah.

They are unbelievably heavy. Yeah. So I tried to do it. I couldn't do it. I couldn't even carry it. It's 25 litres, so I sat 25 kilograms. And I'm trying to carry that back to think, this woman does this six times on her head

and her spinal vertebrae must be fused at that point she's back and forth back and forth all day just uh just just getting enough water for her family to cook very simple kind of maze based meals um called sadza and a bit of okra maybe luckily if they're lucky and feed a couple of chickens to sell and uh they're just on the bones of their ass their kids their kids you know on his way out i think and and in agony pretty much all the time it's it's not a great place for her but just experiencing life in the middle of fucking nowhere with uh with this home tiny was incredible but the they are funding these um incredible projects where they um pumping all this water out of these these new ground rivers So I'm standing on a river that's like just sand.

It looks like a river, but it's sand. It's firm and it's sand and it's not wet at all. But, you know, 10 meters down, there's flowing sand and water, which I'm sure you've seen like an underground river before or heard of it before. But I'm stood in between Botswana and Zimbabwe. Like Botswana is one side of the river and Zimbabwe is the other.

And then we get to this pump house and it's pumping so much water out of this river, which ends up in the farms for irrigation and stuff like that. And it really was amazing. So yeah, a great charity. Give to practical action. There we go.

Before March the 9th. Good for you, Pete, ever getting yourself out there, mate. December 9th and March the 9th. Good for you, Peter, for getting yourself out there, mate. Between December 9th and March the 9th, the UK government will match the money. And what I like about it was that I just experienced kind of a little bit of Zimbabwe kind of hustler culture, you know what I mean?

People trying to get diesel and stuff and fixers who would sort of sort things out for you and stuff if you need to get to a certain place uh we had to drive uh or we had to be accompanied all the time with um like by policemen and and we had to go and meet uh like local government governors and basically you know say hello we're yeah and we're not we're not we're not trying to overthrow the government or anything like that okay but what really made me laugh was there was a policeman whose whole job was just to keep an eye on us and what we were up to who sat in the back of our car

at all times and basically if he wasn't asleep he was just looking out the window he wasn't really paying attention to anything we were doing he just sat in the car yeah

right the guy who was driving no seatbelt driving at least 100 miles an hour or certainly 100 kilometres an hour eating custard creams this guy loved

custard creams where was he getting from did the the very few shops that um there was a big because because um the money was so unstable um a lot of people were just um really stocking up and there was just fights at the supermarket and everything right he was drinking he was drinking uh uh soda he was eating custard creams and he was driving at a ridiculous speed. And the policeman did not seem to care. Right. This is brilliant. Yeah. Very dusty.

Good on you for getting out there and experiencing it firsthand, Pete, and, and, and at least, you know, raising awareness and raising money and all the rest of it. And I suppose these,

these people are affected by, by climate change. And, and this is the sad, the saddest thing about it. I think that the people who are affected by climate change are the people who have, who have the least. Yeah. And, and really you're absolutely right. i know you're being a little bit flippant now when you're talking about u.s senators particularly but you're absolutely right

until these people actually understand and and perhaps even experience what it means for climate change to affect people's livelihoods and actually their lives nothing is really going to change and and the thing thing that annoys me most i don't want to hijack you at your fine work but just to make a point if i may there is no controversy around climate change the science is accepted you know you can always find a an outlier in terms of a scientist who may be sort of in in the in the pay of one particular company or another is um is going to say something that you want him to say that doesn't mean it's a consensus and the thing that annoys me about this more than anything else is that there appears to have been,

the far right, particularly in the US, but big business and usually right-wing politicians have managed to do a great job, to be fair to them, in painting this as an environment versus business and economy discussion, which it absolutely doesn't need to be. The thing that annoys me, to come on to the point, the thing that annoys me more than anything else is the rank laziness of business leaders who say,

well, we can do this, but it's going to cost you this amount of money, it's going to cost this amount of jobs. Absolute bullshit. The reason they want to maintain the status quo is because it fucking makes them money. Fossil fuels make them money. There's a huge amount of resource to be tapped into with sustainable energy sources uh you could innovate the same way a lot of people are innovating big companies could innovate could move their business away from oil uh and and all these

other fossil fuels into renewable energy sources and making a load of money doing it and the difference they won't do it due to rank fucking laziness and it's ultimately going to cost our children and our children's children their fucking lives probably because it's getting to the point now where it probably is irreversible yet if we try you know we might just create a better world you might create a better world that's the thing the backstop to all this is, say it isn't fucking man-made. Say for the first time in however many years,

the scientific consensus is wrong. Okay? And what's the upshot of that? Well, the upshot is we create a better world anyway for people like your friends in Zimbabwe.

Still got to deal with it. And the thing that gets me is like, you talk about how volatile places in Africa are, places like Zimbabwe, the money's up and down,

there's National Guard at the pumps trying to guard the diesel and stuff like that. Nobody can get anywhere. Nobody can do anything. And the Chinese are coming in and just investing in mining and just pulling loads of gold out and putting in loans, which will come to fruition at some point. They will be asking for their money back at some point,

and then they will truly be fucked. But none of that matters to Talani and her family who live in the middle of fucking nowhere who are literally starving. They have one meal a day. Kids are walking to school. I was talking to the deputy headmaster of the school. Like kids were, there was two kind of schools we spoke to.

Kids are coming to school. They start walking to school. I got up at five o'clock in the morning, which as you well know, is not a time for me. That's not the normal time that I wake up. I was up at five o'clock in the morning, which, as you well know, is not a time for me. That's not the normal time that I wake up. I was up at five o'clock in the morning. The kids are getting bathed. The kids are washing with the water

that Talani's collected from the borehole. They're starting to walk to school at like a quarter past five to get there for half past seven. They're walking for miles and miles and miles with no food in their bellies. How can you concentrate? How can you concentrate how can

you do exams that's why in second that's why they never get to like secondary school they do their primary school run and they're just and there's like well there's no point in us doing it i'm just weak all the time i can't concentrate i'm not learning anything and and and that that's absolutely criminal it's awful and it's just very difficult for us to imagine here in the west and being very sort of mollycoddled and, and, and take for granted all the things that we have as a matter of course, but this isn't going to change until,

um, essentially you have to, you have to deal with the things you can control, right? So we, we, we live in the West, the influence we can probably peddle more effectively would be to the United

States. Yeah. And people need to understand it's not right for, for someone like me to talk about other countries' politics, but people need to understand that these politicians that are elected in places like the United States, and also in the UK as well, they are having these opinions because

they are paid to have them by people like the NRA, by people like ExxonMobil, by these big fossil fuel companies. They don't firmly believe it. They don't firmly believe anything. So the moment I would like to see very um influential tech billionaires people like that to start coming involving and coming more to the fore but the problem is they come with their own problems as well around information and around data and all that kind of stuff but they've made their money invariably off

the backs of modern day slavery anyway you know what i mean like it's you look a bit like bezos and and all that zuckerberg all off the all off the backs of either you know mining I mean you look at people like Bezos and all that Zuckerberg Zuckerberg all off the all off the backs of either you know mining people's data for profit or zero hour contracts and not allowing people

to go to the pisser while they work yeah yeah alright let's have a little break and after the after the little pause we promise we'll lighten up a bit

alright yeah we might right we got that off our chest didn't we Peter we'll lighten up a bit, alright? Yeah, we might. Right, we got that off our chest, didn't we, Peter? It's too high,

that, isn't it? Very high. He starts off high, and he can't go higher. They've recorded it high. Yeah. Like,

when they do that live, that must be a real bind. I think he's probably thought, in the recording of it, who is it? Is it, um, that's email. Is it email?

Okay, so he's not, he's not an experienced vocalist, probably. He's thought to himself, I'm starting high there, I've got nowhere to go. But the producers probably said, we'll auto-tune that, don't worry about that. And that is one of the reasons,

and I do stress only one of them, why E-Mail never made the waves they should have made. Pun unintended when it comes to climate change and stuff. I didn't mean that. But E-Mail, they've been forgotten, but not on this show. should have made pun unintended when it comes to climate change I didn't mean that but yeah email they've been forgotten but not on this show

there was a performance of the sound of silence by who did that terrible cover recently it was originally

of course by Simon and Garfunkel but I don't know who did the cover I can find out disturbed I don't know who they are

disturbed they're a metal band but he decided in his later years to do a cover that received some notoriety and some popularity of The Sound of Silence.

This is the sound of silence. Like a really sort of grand kind of... I think he was going for a kind of... Like a Leonard Cohen type vibe. Yeah, a little bit. A latter day kind of reimagining a classic, but it's really kind of theatrical like

hello darkness my old friend there was a BBC campaign a while back I remember listening I used to listen to Five Live on the way home from when I worked

in an office out in West London and there was a campaign by Five Live or by someone that was essentially it was boosted by Five Live

someone was trying to find the lowest legitimate note that a man could sing obviously it was a man because men's voices are

that a man could sing and it was your mum yeah and I was like mum what are you doing mum

and at one point they got people people were calling in and singing and the expert was going well that's that's nowhere near a low C And at one point, people were calling in and singing. And the expert was going, well, that's nowhere near a low C. No, see ya.

And I think they might have eventually found someone who could do a ridiculously low note. But if you listen to Johnny Cash, certainly latter-day Johnny Cash, he can go deep. So can the guy from, do you remember that? I want to say Clutch. You know the band Clutch? Clutch. No, I don't know.

The singer of that band's got a very deep voice. And Leonard Cohen, he put a record out about two months before he passed away, a year or two ago. I mean, the older you get, the easier it gets to go low, though, isn't it? Yeah, but you want to hear Leonard Cohen's You Want It Darker. That is the lowest... You want it darker. It's like that. It's like that.

You want to hear it? I'll find it for you. Yeah, go find it for me. All right, you carry on filling it and I'll find it. I'll sing Tinder Sticks. Yeah, he's... We travel life. Let's talk about Mark Lanigan as well.

We travel life. I'm actually quite good at doing an impression of the man from Tinder Sticks, but it's a very limited and unpopular impression. Is it the new It Spin? You have to explain who it is. All right, check this out. impression of the man from tinder sticks but um it's a very limited and unpopular impression is it the new it's been you have to explain who it is all right uh check this out this is lan cohen you want it darker off his record i think his record is called actually might even be called you want it darker from 2016 yeah um and it's a brilliant song it's really atmospheric and and it is very very deep check it out I remember this

sounds like Michael Jackson doom doom doom doom doom doom sounds like Michael Jackson if you are the dealer I'm out of the game if you are the healer means I'm broken and lame if thine is the glory then that's like

that's smoky and deep as well yeah very smoky one of my favourite artists is the tinder sticks and the tinder sticks the tinder sticks

and one of their songs is about I think just having an affair and fucking in bathrooms and stuff but

for goodness sake Peter a bit of decorum you can go there now You can go there now. We can go there now. If we want to. It's about to kick off, mate. Through the desert that rented room.

What a voice. Harry is jumping through. You sound a bit like Vic Reeves. I was in a bar in Leicester. What are you doing? What are you doing? Be careful of the time to sit and drive. If you've got a deep voice...

Can I just sing the rest of Red Rooms by Dinsics? I find it so lovely. I was in... I can't hear it. I was in a bar in Leicester a week ago and there was a dove from above.

Oh, was there? The last 20 years really haven't happened to me. There was a dove from above. Did that have Claudio Ranieri's

face on it? Yeah. If you can hold a tune and you want to show us how deep you can sing, hello at lukeandpetecher.com,

send us a little voice message. How deep is your voice your voice yeah that's what it can be called get a get a jingle of that they don't say voice though that's the problem but you remember when you did the going for gloating but you just put glow at the end just put voice at the end what's your deepest um not speak to industrial light and magic spielberg's like they're gonna sort you out oh it's complicated i could probably go they're they're going to sort you out. Oh, it's complicated. I could probably go... They're Industrial Sound and Magic, so it'll be jism. Yeah. Ism.

So another really good example is the guy who voices Shia Khan in Disney's original The Jungle Book. Okay, right. There's a bit in the song where he goes, That's what friends are for. But he goes really deep. You can go deeper than me. I can't do it if I laugh.

Wait, let me keep on going the last 108 episodes have been building up for this I'm like a Chinese miner in Zimbabwe that's very good I feel like we should stop now though because we drew a line to that it's very good. I feel like we should stop now, though. Because we're drawing a line to that.

It's very impressive. Everyone's impressed. The Luke and Pete Show. You're not lower than Cohen there, though, are you? Oh, I'm really annoyed. That's my flaw. I've reached my flaw. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com is the email address.

Now, some people have already... Hey, check this out. For fuck's sake. I'm just going to make it lower in post-production. is the email address. Now, some people have already... Hey, check this out. For fuck's sake. Or... I'm just going to make it lower in post-production. Whoa, that was low. Fuck! I'll tell you what,

it's a real podcaster's podcast, this show. It really is. Yeah, this is your podcast's favourite podcast. Practical Action will be really pleased I'm actually

their fine charity. So, people who have already emailed in, we should read a few of theirs now, Peter. Do you want to go first or shall I go first? Please do it in your normal voice. Hello, other Luke and Pete.

Long time listener, sporadic email, listening to episode 107, prompted me to email in a couple of things off the top of my dome. Firstly, regarding the use of the word rumble, the Leonard Bernstein musical West Side Story from 1956-57 has the rumble at the end of Act 1 as referred to in an earlier song as well. So presumably that predates Michael Buffer. Link Ray's Rumble predates Buffer as well.

So yeah, it's a fair point. Incidentally, I think I'm right in saying that PJ and Duncan's record added an H to Rumble. They did. To avoid any trademark dispute. There we go. So Michael Buffer was up and running by then. Link Ray's Rumble,

which I think is mid-50s, you know, down, down, down. Down, down, down. No? No, that's not? That's Link Ray's Rumble. But it sounds like something

I could play on the guitar. Yeah, you probably can. Anyone can. That's the beauty of it. Anyone can. Who's that email from Peter that's from Ben Wick secondly Bullseye

watching reruns of the 1980s Bullseye and Challenge whilst at university in the mid 2000s I saw one of the greatest prizes a prize very much of its time which also means

it's now ridiculously dated it may even have been a bully's special prize but I can't be sure it was a CRT TV we've discussed CRTs before Luke can you remember what CRT stands for? Cathode Ray Tube.

Correct. I learn things on this show every time. It's got a built-in, basically it's a TV, and it's got a built-in dot matrix printer, so you can print out a hard copy of CFAX for future reference. But it's easy to look at those things through the lens of 2018, though, isn't it? Well, it's one of those things that I watch a lot of a YouTuber called TechMorn, who I love. He's just really good he's a man probably sort of uh i don't know probably

it's maybe approaching 50 um and he basically i talk about him a lot on my radio show absolute to be honest but he basically goes through uh he buys old um kind of 70s um video and audio technology technology that uh kind of never went anywhere. So you've got the Betamax, you've got the VHS. There was a third, I think it was owned by Philips, that never went anywhere. So he's got loads of that stuff. He does record.

Does he do mini discs? He's not really doing a lot. No, it's too mainstream. Stuff like video, because you can do video on vinyl. You could get, from a record, you could get video. What about Laserdisc? Does he do Laserdisc? Yeah, Laserdisc, all of that, kind of high-definition, like video because you can do video on vinyl you could get from a record you could get what about laser disc laser disc all of that

kind of high definition tape based solutions oh man I love his work I think he's fantastic check him out if you're an absolute dweebersoid like me

Techmoan and he's very good he's just really really good at his job on that note Peter I wanted to say that I watched

a Bullseye episode um a while back but where are you really from let's repeat no yeah but we discussed that yeah did i tell you about the um the the special bully special prize it was just a load of clothes for like it was funny because there was like a club there was you know you have two contestants on bullseye one who plays the darts and one who answers the questions yeah well the darts guy i'm telling you now was probably six six yeah and he was a big unit right he's probably about 20 stone right the other guy was probably about five foot five and really skinny right what do they win this bully special prize a fashion spree modeled by these bodies models but they got they get like a trench coat a couple of kids clothes it was bad

it was really shit it was much worse than the old thing that people say about speedboats oh why do they want a speedboat at Livermore or Hampton

it was much worse at least with a speedboat you could actually take it somewhere or sell it or whatever a little guy could probably ask another little friend

and they could get a trench coat and get a two for one in the cinema there you go what an 80s crime what an 80s crime what about this

from Colin Armstrong what about this yeah Colin Armstrong what about this yeah that's one of them yeah Pete stuck his finger up at me does that all the time Colin Armstrong says

I'm getting in touch to tell you about the time my brothers and I ended up being guinea pigs for an energy drink that never took off you like that don't you I'm loving that

yeah we're from a town outside Glasgow I'd love to know what town Bells Hill maybe and we used to play football in the car park of the factories behind our house, one of which was a packaging company that made boxes and packages for food. Some of the lads who worked in the factory,

who were a good decade or so our senior, used to play football with us on their break and give us some sandwiches from the factory. One week, the guys in the factory gave us each a case of around 12 bottles of a new energy drink called Indigo. Indigo. I have two brothers, and between us, we had around 36 bottles of the blue-covered beverage in our house. It was the 90s, and apparently our parents were completely fine with us drinking gallons of an unknown liquid given to us by strangers in a factory car park.

Indigo was in stores for a short time, our local safeway stocked it although i can't really find much trace of it online which leads me to believe it was all in fact a terrible ruse to get us to be the test subjects for a strange wolfberry flavored energy drink is that even a real fruit no one knows wolfberry is i think is another word for goji berry right apparently oh my god when we were in the village a just, people were just turning up because they don't see a lot of white people. But a guy just turned up with a fruit I'd never seen before. It was hard like a cricket ball, right? Yeah.

And then he cracked it against the side of a building. And it sort of cracked open. It was smooth. But then inside, it was this flesh that was sort of like dysentery brown. It looked disgusting. Put it in your mouth. It's the sweetest thing I've ever tasted in my life. But then inside, it was this flesh that was sort of like dysentery brown. It looked disgusting. Put it in your mouth. It's the sweetest thing I've ever tasted in my life.

Did you get a name of it? No. Well, he said there wasn't a word for it in English. So I was like, well, how am I supposed to Google that? It was delicious. Yeah. It sounds amazing. Did you get a photo of it?

But it was just like, you know, when you're like sort of saying, oh, I saw a colour that no one had ever seen. I think somebody wrote a book about it. Vantablack. Yeah. A couple of wrote a book about it. Vantablack. Yeah. A couple of people tweeted me about a Vantablack recently. Still got a bottle. I don't know what to do with it.

Back to Colin. I mean, it could have been a wolfberry, maybe. To cut a long story short, we were hooked on the stuff and loved it, and to our collective disappointment, our beloved beverage was discontinued shortly after, probably having been deemed unsafe for human consumption after turning small children insane

and having dangerous levels of caffeine that made Red Bull look like tap water. Does anyone else have memories of a product they like that no one else remembers? Or what is your favourite discontinued foodstuff? That's from Colin Armstrong. We've talked a little bit about chocolate bars, haven't we, in the past?

I've done the Nemesis Black Currant and Licorice fizzy soda that was available for six months in the Sixth Form room vending machine in Hartlepool English Mart as a school at Sixth Form College. Let me talk to you about Tab Clear.

Yeah, I mean, people know about Tab. It was available in America for quite a while. It was great. You get Clear Coke now in Japan

and it just tastes like the fizzy cola bottles. It's very unsatisfying. Right. There we go. If people want to get in touch, they can. Hello at lucampishow.com.

Calpis. We should drink more Calpis over here. It's delicious. We've done rants on climateying. Right. There we go. If people want to get in touch, they can. Hello at lucampisshow.com. Calpis. We should drink more Calpis over here. It's delicious. We've done rants on climate change. Yeah. We've talked about fashion. We've talked about people with deep voices. And we've done a couple of emails, which can only mean one thing, Pete Donaldson.

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