The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 116: Pete Assange
Episode Date: November 15, 2018Pete has decided he'd quite like to visit the Japanese embassy, which is pretty handy as he's recently been cordially invited. Better pack the Ferrero Rocher. More details to follow on later episodes ...(hopefully), but Luke is keen to see him move in there permanently, preferably with the odd visit from Nigel Farage.During this episode we also hear from Stewie Donaldson and his new best mate Crypto Dave (!), a woman actually carries out an urban myth, and we hear about a truly rare beast - a successful wikipedia edit. There's plenty more where that came from too! Email us with your stories: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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How are you doing? It's the Luke and Pete show with Kat from Red Dwarf.
Wow! I can't remember what I used to say.
Just been voted off Strictly Come Dancing of course.
I hear he's not nice.
Do you?
Oh, Pete's Wicked Whispers already.
I know, right?
Pete's Wicked Whispers already.
So early in the show, Pete.
I know, yeah.
I've heard bad reviews of him.
He fell out with his dancer, I think, didn't he?
With his reception.
The ambassador's reception.
You're spoiling us with these Wicked Whispers.
I'm Luke Moore.
This is the Luke and Pete Show.
That man there taking his shirt off because he's already hot The ambassador's reception. You're spoiling us with these wicked whispers. I'm Luke Moore. This is the Luke and Pete show.
That man there taking his shirt off because he's already hot is Mr. Pete Diggory Donaldson.
The Japanese embassy got in touch with the guy who I do Broad in Japan with,
Chris Broad, and said I should visit the embassy.
I've had an official invite from the embassy of Japan.
I mean, that's a mistake on their part.
The ambassador's reception.
What do you expect it to be like?
So this says more about my latent racism than anything else.
In my mind, it's like bloody Blade Runner in there.
I think it's down on approaching Park Lane.
I think it's down on Piccadilly.
Nice spot.
Nice spot.
The Cambodian one is on Brondersbury Park in northwest London,
just up the road from Queen's Park.
And it's a fairly large, but otherwise unimpressive detached house.
Have you seen the North Korean embassy in London?
No, I have not.
It's beautiful.
I would like to.
That is the North Korean embassy.
It's just an end kind of detached house.
It's exactly like the Cambodian one.
Exactly like that.
Isn't it weird though?
A little gated community.
They've got a little flag. The diplomats sort of come in and come out i mean they mainly come in
but um yeah it's uh up in it's gunnersbury gunnersbury avenue right a lot of the countries
uh the prominent ones who had big pieces of real estate in the center of london have moved to that
nine elms development haven't they because this because partly because the property is worth so
much money yeah and they can you know make good good good coin on it did coin on it. Do they buy or do they rent those sort of things?
I believe a lot of the older ones,
I guess like the American one or whatever,
I think they've had that real estate for a long time.
Yeah.
And it's worth 50, 60 million.
Well, they've moved, haven't they, the American one?
A lot of them have moved down to Nine Elms in Vauxhall, yeah.
Recently on the Luke and Pete show,
we ate odd flavoured Kit Kats.
We did do that.
I don't usually like
eating on the
radio, so to speak,
but I thought it
filled a hole.
Cameron, I mean,
the most recent
episode, Cameron
got in touch on
Twitter to say,
I think this genuinely
may be the funniest
episode you guys
have done.
No accounting for
taste.
We also talked about
the curse of the
Colonel, the Japanese
baseball team's curse
of the KFC Colonel.
A story I've told
three times to
different people who haven't heard the Luke and Pete show Colonel. A story I've told three times to different people
who haven't heard Luke and Pete Shaw
about the same reaction I got from you, to be honest.
Disappointed.
I was so excited by that story.
You're dining out on it, though.
I think it says more about your ability to tell a story
than anything else.
Oh, yeah, damn right.
We waxed lyrical about phobias.
We marveled at the bizarre hot and cold flavours
of 90s Ribena in the 90s.
I think it was in the 90s, wasn't it?
And we also appreciated Cliff Young,
the Australian Cliff Young,
inadvertently winning an endurance race
back in the 80s by wearing farmer's boots
and not sleeping.
Did you know that the former deputy ambassador
to North Korea defected to South Korea in 2016?
No, I did not know that.
So he probably got an Uber
from the North Korean embassy yeah
in Gunnersbury
and popped over to
the South Korean one
I've got
I guess that
how it would work
I've got a feeling
that you are about to become
the Julian Assange
of the Japanese embassy
what I'd just have a little room
live in there
yeah
that'd be brilliant
they'd have all the best food
you'd get a vitamin D deficiency
it would be like
the ambassador's reception
but instead of
Frere Rocher
it would be
Takoyaki.
Little steamed.
Little octopus balls
in a ball basically.
Apparently Julian Assange
I believe it was
vitamin D deficiency
because he wasn't
getting outside enough.
He's got a little balcony
he can step outside can't he?
It's just what I read.
It's just what I read.
So what's the context
of the visit?
He managed to get off
with Pamela Anderson
when he was in there.
Is that true?
Yeah Pamela Anderson is his visitor. He's st that true? Yeah, Pamela Anderson's a visitor.
It's stinking at Laos.
So is Nigel Farage.
Doesn't mean anything until...
Well, there was something until war going on,
but not of that nature.
Yeah, very certainly went out with Pamela Anderson.
What's the context of your visit to the Japanese war?
I want to see Pamela Anderson.
What do you mean, the context?
You said you should visit.
I was like, oh, I will.
Are you going to go?
I don't know.
The thing is, it's one of those things.
It's when Biffy Clara said I should come and watch,
when I interviewed one of them, you should come and watch us when you go to Portugal, Peter don't know. The thing is, it's one of those things. It's when Biffy Clara said I should come and watch, when I interviewed one of them,
you should come and watch us when you go to Portugal, Peter.
I went, yes, I will.
But then there's a disconnect between how do I make that happen?
I have to ask for email addresses.
I have to kind of formally approach people.
It's never going to happen, is it?
No, not on your watch.
I might knock on the door and go,
hello, I'm a podcaster and a Japanese boy.
Let me in.
He's not Japanese, is he?
No.
He's from Kent.
I'd like to mic you up
in everything you do.
Yeah.
Particularly that.
Or walk into the embassy
with a mic.
Just wearing a wire.
Like Viggo Mortensen's
character in Carlito's Way.
I'm wearing a wire, man.
I got shit in the diaper, man.
I got shit in the diaper, man.
That's what I like to see you do.
Wearing a wire
like in Carlito's Way
in the Japanese embassy. And you know what I like to do when you walk in? a wire, like in Carlito's way in the Japanese embassy.
And,
and that was what I like to do when you walk in,
you walk,
this is how it's going to work in my mind.
You walk into the Japanese embassy,
you've been invited.
So you can walk in there.
Fine.
Freely.
Yeah.
You'd sort of play around with your mic.
Yeah.
And we see that you're wearing a wire.
And then at that point you break the fourth wall,
look to camera and go,
I expect you're wondering how I got here.
That would be ideal.
Yeah. And then I go, bring me all the taco how I got here. That would be ideal. Yeah.
And then I go, bring me all the takoyaki you've got.
And when you say, I expect you're wondering how I got here,
we then rewind all the way back to you with your arm around that chimp
at five years old in Hartlepool Zoo.
Right.
And that's where it all starts.
That's a long story.
The biopic of your life.
Yeah.
People tune in.
You always ask for a Stuart Donaldson update.
Oh, yes, I do.
I've got one.
I got a rather cryptic text from my dad yesterday saying,
Crypto Dave is my hero.
Right, who's Crypto Dave?
Fuck knows.
I've Googled him.
I've asked him.
I just literally replied, does he go to your pub?
And he said, he's far too rich to be seen there.
So Crypto Dave might be a troublesome character.
I don't know. He might have followed a bad crowd. Sounds like he sits in the to be seen there. So Crypto Dave might be a troublesome character. I don't know.
He might have fallen into a bad crowd. Sounds like he sits in the local doing the cryptic crossword.
Oh, crypto. Well, yeah.
Crypto Dave.
Crypto Dave.
What do you imagine him to be like? I don't know.
I'm just really obsessed with how
little money he's got now because
he put all his money into Bitcoin.
Yeah, well, we've all done that. We've all done that.
Ethereum.
I've got a bit of Ethereum,
as you know.
It's like a disease.
It's just the way
my trousers are hanging.
Thay Young Ho.
Thay Young Ho is the highest
ranking North Korean
official to defect.
And he defected from
the North Korean embassy
here in London.
We should be honoured.
So he was trusted.
He was trusted.
Trusted.
And did you watch
the Michael Palin one?
Oh, he went to North Korea,
didn't he?
A couple of episodes.
It's quite good.
It is quite good,
but it's all very
kind of like voyeuristic.
No, because Michael Palin
is doing it, it's fine.
But if a YouTuber
goes and does it,
it's a disgrace
that you're kind of
feeding the machine.
No, I think it depends.
I think Palin probably,
look, it's hard for us
to judge because we're
not in that situation.
And Palin,
I'm not realistically
going to give
Michael Palton tips
about doing a travel documentary,
but he probably could have been a bit more forthright with them.
But he was also, with these two guys,
who I think he warmed to and who he got on with really well.
But the thing is, the money that goes,
it's quite apart from actually filming a documentary about it,
the money still goes to the regime, doesn't it?
That's the reason why tourism is frowned upon.
I'd like to go north of the border.
You've been to the DMZ, haven't you?
I've been to the DMZ.
There's like a little kind of observation tower
with some really strong binoculars.
You can look into Pyongyang if you want.
The Donaldson Military Zone.
It's so sort of voyeuristic.
It's the little leaflets.
It says, dare to take a peek into Pyongyang.
And there's a train station that's out there
and it's still kind of, you know, it's cleaned every day.
It's like a functioning train station
but the trains don't go anywhere.
Right.
They sort of end north of Seoul
and they don't go,
they obviously don't go to Pyongyang
so it's the train station of hope,
basically.
Right.
That they hope one day
that it'll be able to travel to Pyongyang.
Donald Trump,
that's his way,
little rocket man will be.
Rocket man.
Doing all that stuff.
Something that caught my eye recently
and I thought you'd enjoy this and this is perfect luke and pete show uh fodder an urban myth right of the
type that we always used to hear about as children of the 80s and 90s and i don't need to go into
detail yeah well you know what i will things like oh don't go to that water park because someone put
razor blades down the water slide yeah don't eat that food because someone put a razor blade in
there i'm fairly certain somebody put nails
through the Milhouse Leisure Centre.
Easily done.
Well, someone put drawing pins
on the bottom of our swimming pool at school.
That happened.
I witnessed that with my own eyes.
That definitely happened.
Right.
Wouldn't drawing pins float?
No.
Really?
No.
No.
These didn't.
Sounds like you ran some tests.
Ask me again.
Do drawing pins float?
How could I possibly know?
I don't know what you're talking about.
No, but honestly, that did happen at my school.
But generally speaking, they're avid myths.
You're punishing the weak there, aren't you?
The people who put their feet down.
Well, the reason I know it happened is because my best friend, Jimmy, you know about.
Jimmy the fruitarian.
Yeah, he can't swim.
Right.
And so he used to go on the shallow end for our swimming lessons
at school.
So this is the thing,
I went to a rough school
but the one thing
it did have was a swimming pool
and it was like a big thing.
But Jimmy couldn't swim
and nor could his twin sister.
Jimmy couldn't swim.
Yeah, sounds like
a Bruce Springsteen song.
And so he used to have to walk
along the swimming pool floor
at the shallow end
like doing whatever,
he was doing with these floats
or whatever.
And he was the one who said, Jesus, look
there's pins in the water. Jesus, there's pins in the water
and there's blood in the water and sharks arrived.
Yeah, exactly. A drawing pin
can smell a cubic centimetre of blood
in a million. It's so
kind of right random that he'd actually get his foot on one.
Because how many pins would you have to have
put in there? Oh, it's like a big
they used to come in quite big boxes at our school in the station
if you're a teacher if the teacher who administers the swimming pool I'm presuming it's like a big... They used to come in quite big boxes at our school in the stationery cupboard. If your teacher...
If the teacher who administers the swimming pool,
I'm presuming it's the PE department,
can't notice a lot of drawing pins at the bottom of a pool.
They have no right to own a pool.
Our school was a shit show.
Close it down.
Anyway, to get on to my point,
this caught my eye this week.
A 50-year-old woman has been arrested
in relation to the contamination of strawberries
with needles.
Oh, yeah.
A number of needles
were found inside strawberries
by shoppers across Australia
in September
and charges are expected
to be laid.
She was a big deal.
This news story
was a big deal
three or four weeks ago,
wasn't it,
when they first started
finding needles in strawberries?
Oh, I only found it yesterday.
And it was like
a nationwide kind of health scare.
How has she got access
to that many strawberries?
I think she worked,
oh,
what do you mean?
Well,
you just go into shops,
don't you?
Just sort of pop the needles in.
What are you doing?
Nothing.
Yeah,
what are you doing?
What are you doing with those strawberries?
Are you going to pay for those?
The,
so it was sewing needles,
presumably,
to fit into the strawberries.
You couldn't put knitting needles.
I can show you a picture,
but I can't really see.
It's not really that clear.
Yeah,
that's a sewing needle,
isn't it?
unless that's a mass of strawberries,
not a knitting needle,
is it?
It's gigantic strawberries. Everyone that's a mass of strawberries, not a knitting needle, is it? Basically, gigantic strawberries.
Everyone who's purchased strawberries
at Woolworths in Queensland,
which is big.
Where she's done it.
And New South Wales and Victoria.
So basically, I think the three most populous
states in Australia
have been told to chuck them away.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the effect she's had.
Or do some sewing.
Wait until they rot and do some sewing.
She has sown a lot of danger
if you know what I mean
she's literally sown seeds
that's what I'm saying
because they're covered in seeds
yeah true exactly
it's the only fruit
where the seeds are on the outside
is that true
yeah
and she's
she's clearly
damaged
and she's clearly
very
she's a bit
cat bin lady for me
you don't know who it is do you
what do you mean
well you haven't seen her have you
no but
no I'm not saying she looks like the cat bin lady.
I don't know.
But, like, that kind of...
No, I'm going to...
It's a cry for help.
I'm not having this.
If you're putting needles in her.
It may well be a cry for help, but I don't think you can equate the two.
A woman who puts a cat in a bin...
Now, I'm a cat owner.
You know I'm a cat lover.
Right.
I'm not defending that.
It's horrendous.
But you're not seriously going to impair the health of potentially thousands of people
by putting a single, solitary cat in an empty bin.
I don't know how important that cat is.
It could be the
cat from Men in Black
with the galaxy
on its collar
yeah
could be the ambassador
to North Korea
could be
this cat
could have been yeah
could have started a new war
oh well done
you think you're just
putting a normal cat
in a bin
you've actually just
scuppered a defection
now western civilisations
are in mild peril
I just think it's a shame
that people have to do
that sort of thing
to get attention.
What do you think about those urban myths we used to have when we were kids?
Raise the blaze down the water flume was a big one.
Well, we sort of talked about the clowns, the killer clowns.
Oh, yeah, we'll talk a bit about them.
Should we have a break and talk about them in the emails?
We've got to do emails about that.
I'm helpful.
So, Sheikh, you're telling me that drinking camel's jorin is part of the
thing?
Ach, you don't get me
wrong.
And we're back to
the Luke and Peter
show.
Yes, we are.
Yes, we are.
Yes, we can.
We promised emails
because Urban Miss,
right?
So we promised emails
about Urban Miss
because we had a guy
got in touch with us
and possibly last show
around or the one
before that about
killer clowns and blue transit vans, right?
Yes.
I've got a follow-up here from Aaron.
It's the blue transit vans I don't sort of really get.
It's confusing.
So as I've said a hundred times,
we're razor-blazing in a water flume
and razor-blazing apples.
Do you have any sort of variations on that, Pete,
from where you...
I don't really remember the razor blades,
but I remember the thing you're going to talk about,
the Chelsea Smile thing.
Oh, okay, right. So Aaron's got in touch he says all right boys i'm writing to reply to the email you received about the clowns in blue transit vans terrorizing children of lanarkshire
of course if you want to get in touch with an email it's hello at luke and pete show.com as
aaron's done aaron goes on to say it's clear that by the time i heard about the clowns about 11
years ago chinese whispers had taken place while the clowns still drove a blue transit van their method of punishment was different they would tie you down and slit the
corners of your mouth with a standing knife to the point where you could easily place a credit card in
and then pour vinegar into your wounds what made this worse for me was at the part of a sunny
coat bridge where i grew up was that less than three streets away was a man who owned a blue
transit van i did some background reading myself and discovered streets away was a man who owned a blue transit van i did some
background reading myself and discovered that it was reportedly men who had escaped from carstairs
hospital a psychiatric ward for around 140 patients while there's clearly something to this story
um i think it stemmed from pennywise all along as in from stephen king's it um yeah so i mean not
really a huge amount of further information other than some more myths there.
No.
You could probably fit a credit card in your mouth anyway, couldn't you?
I reckon so.
I've got quite a sort of letterboxy kind of mouth.
That's why I never made it as a boxer.
But the whole sort of splitting of the sides of the mouth.
Chelsea smile, yeah.
Yeah, Chelsea smile.
And then you tickle them, so they laugh, and their face just splits.
I think that was all from, like, The Joker.
Remember, like, Batman, the Tim Burton first Joker?
Was there not a film at some point where someone says,
I'll make you smile for the rest of your life?
Some sort of British gangster movie or something.
It might have come from that.
Tedious, isn't it?
It's tedious.
It's easily stitched up.
And you look badass.
Speaking of terrible British movies,
that to me is a real interest.
There's so many, more than you could ever imagine,
terrible British gangster movies been made.
There's gangster movies.
There's even ones with pretty decent casts that people sort of go,
oh, that's pretty good.
What was the last Michael Caine film where he sort of played an old bloke
who couldn't understand? Oh, Harry Brown. Harry Brown. That's actually quite good. No, it's not Kane film where he sort of played an old bloke who couldn't understand?
Harry Brown. That's actually quite good.
No, it's not. I thought it was decent.
It's really bleak. If you watch it again,
it's not. It's really clunky.
I think you're wrong. I think we're talking
about a far worse
calibre of movie than that.
There are a lot worse. And everyone
just screams tax break.
Every one of them just screams. The worst one I've ever seen is one called bonded by blood which features no doubt surprised to know
uh tamer hassan and a guy who used to be a doorman yet somehow forged out some sort of acting career
and i do use that in the loosest possible terms um we're talking about three or four levels below
anything danny dyer's agent would even put to him
that sort of level
and it is the most
astonishingly bad acted film
to the point of where
I think that you could
probably pick four or five
people off the street
and give them a bit of time
to learn the lines
and they could do
as good a job
The Sweeney with Plan B
Plan B's good in Harry Brown
he's really dark in Harry Brown
he can actually
he's got some acting chops
but I think
there's a certain raft
of British gangster movies
that came after Lockstock
that just seem to be
ways of men and women
cleaning money
I think
there's a definite bit of tax breaks
and also maybe a little bit
of money laundering in it as well
because the quality
is so poor and the fantasies are so in it as well because the quality is so poor
and the fantasies
are so nonsensical
and the scripts are so bad
I just think
there's got to be something
maybe someone who works
for the Met
they can sort of
fill us in
as to whether there's
any truth to that
but it certainly seems
but you say that
but I don't think that
I understand why
that would be the case
for people making the movie
but some of the people
involved in those
types of movies
I'm mentioning there,
I mean,
they're seriously
going to be like,
right,
do you want to be in a movie
for the next three months?
It's 20 grand.
I mean,
they're going to do it.
Yeah.
Because they don't have any money
and they need to work, right?
And they want to be active.
I know,
talk like this.
Yeah, exactly.
I think you could pass
for quite a good
sort of sinister villain.
But Lock, Stock and Snatch,
in the same way
that the Libertines
have got a lot to answer for
about what came after them,
those two films and Guy Ritchie
have got a lot to answer for.
No, excellent.
Guy Ritchie, I always forget
which way around it is,
but Guy Ritchie can either create,
he can film, but he can't write,
or he can either write and he can't film.
I can't remember,
because I quite liked his Sherlock Holmes.
I've not seen that.
I quite rate him.
The problem is, it's weird,
because Sherlock Holmes, the Guy Ritchie one,
and the one which is called Elementary
with, is it Johnny Lee Miller?
Oh, that's a TV show, isn't it?
Yes, but they both come around the same time
as the Benedict Cumberbatch, Mark Gatiss Sherlock,
which of course means it's just...
Lucy Liu, Charlie's Angels.
Get on the floor
speaking of
Mark Gatiss
did you happen across
it's not Gatiss
whatever
did you not
he's not involved
we lambasted Marcus
in Bagel
instead of Bagel
which
straight
I mean I'm rightly so
I think
have a Bagel
yeah
the
Halloween special
of Inside Number 9
did you see it?
I didn't see it.
It's live,
wasn't it?
Well,
it's excellent.
I'm not going to say
or tell you what it was like
and I'm not going to spoil it
for people listening at home.
If you're listening now
and you've seen it,
you know what I mean.
That's one of those things
that my own personal
Halloween nightmare
is the fact that I wasn't
in the country
when that was on
so people just keep on going,
did you see it?
Did you see it?
I just haven't.
I got it on Catch Up,
bruv.
Oh,
Catch Up. Watch it on probably the 3rd't. I've got it on catch-up, bruv. Oh, catch-up.
Watch it on probably the 3rd or 4th of November.
So, you know, that's the kind of guy I am.
Do you want to do another email, mate?
I'll do another email.
Let me have a look.
I'll see you asterisked a load of them in the inbox.
Well, I asterisked a load of them,
but then I was like, oh, the,
then I looked for the clowns.
Samuel.
Hello, Samuel.
I won't give you the second name just in case you get into trouble.
And also, it's quite hard to say your middle name.
All right, lads.
Up above nothing, I thought I'd share a story with you and see if any other listeners or
hosts, I could definitely see Pete doing something like this, have any similar stories.
I've known my mate since we were about 12, and he's always been a massive wine merchant
and prankster and semi-regular Wikipedia vandal.
Usually, his stuff gets removed by jobs with quite quickly.
They're literally doing their jobs, Samuel.
But as of right now, this particular piece of bollocks
has been there for about four years.
It's not even an obscure page in the backwaters of the site.
It must get thousands upon thousands of hits a week,
and there's actually some quality proof
that people have actually taken this seriously.
The vandalism itself is on the page for Earl Grey tea.
He told me at the time
it wasn't even one of his
more considered pieces
or any particular attempt
at fooling the moderators.
It was something stupid
for his own amusement
that he assumed
that would be gone
by the time he woke up
the next morning.
Pete, can I cut in there
and say that most
Wikipedia vandalism
is horrendously shit.
Yeah, it's all shit.
I don't know what
this email's about,
but you're saying
this is a particularly
good example.
It's a good example, yeah. It's not even just a sentence or two, it's all shit. I don't know what this email's about, but you're saying this is a particularly good example. It's a good example, yeah.
It's not even just a sentence or two, it's a whole section.
My mate describes in great detail the entirely fictitious history
of Earl Grey being used as a mixer for gin,
spawning the equally fictitious cocktail,
the Morsley Tea Service, after the rich part of Birmingham.
It's still in there, I believe.
He made it sound vaguely plausible,
and even used citations and references to
genuine publications, though sneakily
to incredibly obscure stuff you couldn't verify
without actually having to go to a library.
The best part, though, is that when I googled
Moseley Tea Service a couple of years later to see if it was still on the
Wikipedia page, to my absolute amazement,
I found some bars and restaurants had actually put
it on their menus. It's spread around the
world as far as a bar in Halifax, Nova Scotia,
one in Aberdeen, one in California,
and possibly my favourite is a fancy hotel
in the drink spiritual home of Birmingham.
Is it included in the recipe then?
No, no, I think somebody just went,
oh, we'll call this Elgrin,
who's gin drink.
Because I've long suspected
that people who make cocktails
who call themselves mixologists
are full of hot hair
and are absolute bellends.
Hot air and hot hair.
Yeah.
Absolute.
Cocktail, I'm not an angry man usually,
but you can make a cocktail without fucking about.
Yes, I agree.
And people fuck about too much.
And I'm probably three deep at the bar back
and I just want a beer.
Get on with it.
And I'm dressed exactly the same as the guy
behind the cocktail bar.
Yeah.
You look like you're going for an interview for the job.
I've got me little brass bracelets around my elbows.
Armbands.
To keep my armbands.
Brass bracelets,
as they're so well known.
Brass bracelets.
Yeah, so,
because we did,
I did one for,
was it,
the Aston Villa manager,
French.
Gerard Houllier.
Gerard Houllier.
That's right.
So this,
essentially,
in summary,
this guy's invented
a El Grey cocktail tradition
that people have adopted as fact.
You did, Gerard Houllier, when he was appointed the manager of Aston Villa.
Yes.
We had, or you suggested that people who were reporting on this, which wouldn't check stuff, they'd just be going straight to Wikipedia.
So you put a couple of two, two or three, I think.
Where he started his career.
Fictional French football team.
Yes.
And they got picked up by, not all of them,
but quite a lot of reputable news outlets.
It was in Yahoo, it was on Eurosport.
Yeah.
We'd got them, which kind of,
it does make me sort of think,
why do people give me bum clues for going for Claude?
But they're already mugging off themselves in that situation.
Exactly.
They're already like themselves.
And I do think you can,
I mean, I remember reading a few years ago now,
Richard Dawkins, before he went properly head mental,
obviously is an authority on evolutionary biology.
I don't think anyone really disputes that.
And he was tasked by, I think, is it Jimmy Wales,
the founder of Wikipedia?
I think it was him.
Anyway, someone tasked Richard Dawkins with,
go onto the Wikipedia page about evolution
and tell me in your professional opinion how accurate it is.
And he did that.
Dawkins mentioned it in one of his talks and said he was astonished
how good it was, how accurate it was.
And so at its best, Wikipedia is amazing.
Oh, yeah.
But you've got to, a lot of times, you've got to go and look at the sources
and make sure it's from where it's from.
If you find something, oh, that's really interesting.
And it happens quite a lot with when I'm doing Wrestle Me,
and I don't know any of the wrestlers,
so I'm sort of Wikipedia all these wrestlers.
And they do, because if there's one side of the internet
that are really kind of big on kind of facts and stuff
and heights and build where they're from
and ages and dates and stuff, it's wrestling fans.
They're really on it.
But that's all bullshit anyway, isn't it?
They make it up, don't they?
Well, they make up where they're from.
And their heights and weights.
I met a new one this week
because we were doing
a slightly different show.
Kabuki,
or the Great Kabuki.
He's from Japan.
He's from some prefecture
at the bottom of the country.
He blows,
he's one of the first people
to sort of throw dust around.
I think they call it Asian dust.
It's some kind of weird stuff
that does spells
and things
burns the eyes
as wrestlers
so he's from Japan
his name
is an ancient
Japanese theatre
and they've billed him
from being from
like Indonesia
or something
Singapore
it's like why
his name's the
Great Kabuki
say he's from Japan
a lot of this
a lot of the stuff
they did
I mean
regular listeners
to Wrestle Me
will know this
on one of them
is that
a lot of it's
quite problematic
isn't it
so like Kamala
being like
from deepest
darkest Africa
when he's actually
from like Missouri
or whatever
yeah exactly
and they also
not just where
people are from
but they massively
exaggerate their
heights and weights
as well
massively
so when like
Andre was genuinely
a gigantic character,
but they sort of said quite early on,
don't stand next to any basketball players
because basketball players
are just taller than him.
You just look ridiculous.
They're taller than him.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I just want to finish off
with an email,
quite a sort of poignant email.
It's from Callum.
It's quite a really interesting read,
but also quite a bleak
and sort of sad one as well
Callum says
Hi guys
I've been catching up
with the show
since getting into it
a couple of months ago
I've got a story
I thought you might enjoy
My grandad Don
is now 75
and profoundly deaf
He has been deaf
since a bout of meningitis
as a baby
He's Glaswegian
and a real character
In the 50s
being deaf was really hard
At his school.
They were forbidden from using sign language instead of instructed to lip read.
Now this is ridiculously hard for somebody who's never had any semblance of hearing because they don't know the shape and sounds of the words.
Um,
the punishment for this for signing was typically a ruler to the hands.
So in fifties and sixties and seventies,
my ex girlfriend's father used to say this,
he got really bad treatment at school
for being left-handed.
He almost literally had it beaten out of him.
And this is a similar type of thing,
although more harsh.
He said,
at his granddad Don's deaf school,
boarding school,
they'd also enforce a strict 7pm lights out rule,
forcing children as old as 15 to go to sleep
but it was still light.
And they also had to wear shorts every day
during the summer.
And that was mandatory.
Don was fed up with this.
I know.
Don was fed up with this.
He said,
so he was going to escape.
This was a tight operation where the school had alarm systems,
bells that rang when windows and doors opened,
but he had a plan nonetheless.
A symptom of my granddad's deafness is that his eardrum has a wider gap than most,
leaving him with earache at times and affecting his balance.
So over the course of two to three weeks,
he would complain of earache and head to the nurse
to receive some cotton wool.
It would be doused with some mild anesthetic to numb the pain.
And my granddad began to collect it until he had enough of it.
He then enlisted the help of a friend who was partially deaf
and could feel vibrations.
He went around and jammed...
It's like a film.
I know, it's great.
Went around and jammed all of the bells with cotton wool,
so when they went off, they made no sound.
And then he had his friend test it.
That's like a graphic adventure.
Yeah.
When he escaped, no alarm sounded
until the headteacher noticed he was missing.
They brought him back from his house the next morning
and demanded to know how he'd escaped,
but he refused to tell them.
He repeated this feat again, and when they assisted...
Hear no evil, speak no evil.
Yeah, and when they insisted he'd receive no punishment
if he told them how he did it,
he revealed the elaborate plan. I just wanted to share my favourite story from my remarkable grandad, Don. All the Yeah, and when they insisted he receive no punishment if he told them how he did it, he revealed the elaborate plan.
I just wanted to share my favourite story
from my remarkable grandad, Don.
All the best and keep up the good work.
Now, that is a really terrible situation,
but an amazing story, right?
Oh, yeah, brilliant.
And also, I just like the fact that he collected cotton wool.
That was the only place you could get cotton wool
was at the nurse.
Amazing.
And the thing was, there's no real point to it
other than just to prove a point.
Say, look, fuck you lot.
Yeah.
And I would like to think
that he wasn't punished after that
because that's a trick
that teachers pull all the time.
You can't just say,
oh yeah, you're not going to get in trouble.
Yeah.
You are going to get in trouble.
Yeah.
I just want you to,
if you're honest and you own that,
you won't get in trouble.
I learned that the hard way
from my old mum, didn't I?
She always used to say that to me
and I always used to fall for it.
Absolutely.
Incredible.
Lies.
There was a,
I was back at my parents' last weekend
and we were looking at some old photos
and there was a photo of me
playing Sega Master System 2.
Yeah, you were playing Pole Position,
I think you were playing.
I can't remember.
I think it was a built-in game.
You were playing a built-in game.
No, built-in game.
You called yourself a gamer.
I wasn't because I tell you,
the built-in game on that system
was Alex Kidd in Miracle World.
Oh, yeah.
So it was definitely a cartridge game.
You used to be able to get cards, card
games, like games on
cards back in the day
I think.
Really?
There we go.
Alright, let's get
out of here Pete
Donaldson.
Let's get out of here.
I noticed in the
background of that
shot where you're
playing Pole Position
in the kitchen, there's
two cans that look
like a modern
Craft Ale, Piston
Heads.
Really?
And I was like, I
wrote it on Instagram,
you probably missed a
message, but yeah, I
was just astounded
that time travelling
craft ale
is that going to be
now a bit of viral content
look at this kid
he was a time traveller
there we go
brilliant
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