The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 12: Shark Turns Oven On

Episode Date: August 21, 2017

There's enough chat about chocolate bars to sink a battleship (hopefully without an unlucky Uruguayan onboard), Luke tells a frankly quite horrendous story about a fox - so consider that fair warning - and, sticking with the nature theme, there appear to be frogs and ants playing host to a range of parasites.There's also enough time for a couple of listeners to chime in about one of 1999's most controversial films and yet another email about you know what. Please stop sending them in.Email us about literally anything else here though: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh. Welcome to the Luke and Pete show. We are back for episode 12. That's like three months or something. A hard dozen. That's like three months or something. A hard dozen. That's a hard dozen. Baker's Dozen is 13 because he wants a spare one to eat himself, is that?

Or is it just if he muffs one up? Why did the baker have brown hands? Because he needed a poo. There you go. And he had problems in his life. Let's do the Baker's Dozen stuff next week. Yeah. Because we need to, really.

I mean, that's what a Baker's Dozen is. But we're a hard dozen in. We're a hard dozen in. What does the number 12 mean to you luke uh 12 days of christmas yeah my true love gave to me how many of them can you name first year i kissed a girl probably something like that 12 what nah what no when i was 23 what uh no what what were you saying 12 days of christmas how many can you name? Oh, partridge in a pear tree. Yeah.

Lords are leaping. Yeah. Crawling, doing a crawl. Three French hens, two turtle doves. Four calling birds, five gold rings. Yeah. Six. Geese are laying as one of them in there.

Yeah. I can't do it. Beyond five gold rings, I'm in bad, bad shape. I know two. I know two. Your memory is, you always go on about how bad your memory is, and you remember everything. You're telling me you can't do Five Gold Rings.

I remember, all right, I know those two. Four calling birds, three French hens. I know someone's doing it. I can probably, like, carry on with them. North of Five Gold Rings, it gets very, very difficult for me. I just get confused about Sonic, the video game. I get really excited. It might be about him. Anyway, we're 12 in. I just get confused about Sonic, the video game. I get really excited. It might be about him.

Anyway, we're 12 in. Yeah. Episode 12. Five running hedgehogs. No, that's not what it is. Are you ready for a little bit of chat about... Well, basically, yesterday you gave a big shout. I saw a picture of a WhatsApp we were having a chat about.

Oh, I can't do nonsense. And I saw online a picture that someone had posted of a Kit Kat without any wafer in it. They were lucky enough to receive a Kit Kat with all that delicious Nestle's chocolate without any wafer in it. Are you going to do the It's Been thing first? Because I don't really know where I am with that one.

Sorry. It's been! You happy now? Yeah, I'm happy. It's been one week us. So I don't really know where I am with that one. Sorry. It's been. You happy now? Yeah, I'm happy. It's been one week since we did a show. Listen, I cannot even approach the creative high point

of last week, which is the world's highest singing man and the world's lowest singing man without that jingle to set me off and running. Thank you very much. I've been trying all week.

Kit Kat. Nestle's Kit Kat. Kit Kat. Nestle. Yeah. Don't buy Nestle. Obligatory Nestle comment. Don't buy Nestle. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody received a Kit Kat, Nestle. Yeah. Don't buy Nestle. Obligatory Nestle comment. Don't buy Nestle.

Yeah, somebody received a Kit Kat and they didn't have a wafer in it. Yeah. And you replied, I've had one of those before and it was a chunky one. Yeah. Big shout, big bolloxy lion shout. I'm not having this. Stand by it, stand by it. What?

A Kit Kat chunky. I'm telling you now, about five years ago, I bought a Kit... Listen, Pete, if it's something I know, it's chocolate bars, right? You can't have it both ways. Imagine, just imagine the quantity of chocolate bars I buy compared to you, right? It's much more likely to happen to me than it is to you. No, because I'm a chocolate head. I eat sweets more.

I'm a chocolate head, mother. I'm a chocolate head. And you'll treat me as such. Stop leaving me next to the open fire. I'm telling you now, it was definitely before the widespread use of WhatsApp and all that sort of

what they call dark sharing type stuff. Right. And it was probably even before, it was probably longer than five years ago, to be honest. And I bought a Kit Kat chunk and it's solid chocolate. And you didn't take a picture,

you just snaffled it right away. No, I don't know why I didn't take a picture. The best picture I've ever taken Kat chunk and it's solid chocolate. And you didn't take a picture, you just snaffled it right away. No, I don't know why I didn't take a picture. The best picture I've ever taken thinking about it. Of a chocolate bar! No, not of a chocolate bar. But you know what? I was looking, when we did that conversation, as you said, yesterday or the day before.

Well, it was sparked by the email you were about to read out. I think that's why we're talking about Kit Kats. I'll get on to you in a minute. But I just wanted, before we... Actually, I'll do the email first. Alright, okay. Make sure you remind me, because I don't want to forget quite an a minute. But I just wanted, before we... Actually, I'll do the email first. I'll do the email first. All right, okay. Do the email first. Make sure you remind me,

because I don't want to forget quite an interesting thing I've got to say. What was the bit? How have I got to remind you? Because I don't know what the story is. Fox. Fox. Tell me, just Fox, okay?

Anyway. Glass of mint? Step up. No, nothing to do with that. Nothing to do with confectionery at all. Right. I don't know why we're doing an email now, but we are.

It's the It's Been section instead, but we do what we want. It's been. We find out what other people do. This is an email from Paul Brooks. Right. He says, Hi guys instead but we do it's been we're finding out what other people don't do this is an email from uh paul brooks right he says hi guys in regards to your size oh this is what it is he says in regards to your chat about the size of chocolate bars which you mentioned a few weeks ago how they're getting smaller he says i can shed some light on this i worked in confectionery sales for a few years and can confirm that

chocolate bars have shrunk but this is because the government want to tax sugar to tackle obesity and so chocolate companies met with MPs to discuss. They told MPs that sugar is essential for chocolate bar structure and taste, and therefore decided to make bars smaller to get around government guidelines, although they didn't reduce the price, obviously. Keep up the good work, Paul. Is that true? Well, I did a little bit of research around this on Paul's behalf,

because, you know, it's great insight, Paul, but you didn't show you're working, so Paul's behalf because you know it's great insight Paul but you didn't provide any show you didn't show you're working so that's that for you I've got a few here Yorkie

okay right it's also a Nestle product I do too and I've got raisin and peanut one

not peanut raisin and biscuit yeah I like that yeah the original Yorkie bar weighed 58 grams back in the 1970s

and over time shrunk to 52 grams. But it's settled at its current weight of 46 grams. That's tiny. What was it in 1970, whatever? Well, this is quite interesting because in the 1970s it weighed 58 grams. It shrunk to 52. But there seems to be, and you'll see this sort of manifested in a minute as well with these other ones,

for some reason, like the early 2000s, a lot of chocolate bars massively increased in weight. I think it might have been around that super-sized McDonald's type thing, or it's just excessive. Well, everything just got bigger. Yeah, and it went up to 70 grams in the 2000s. Anyway, it's come back down to 46 grams now, so that's a lot smaller than it was originally. Twixes have shrunk 17% from 60 grams to 50 grams. Yeah, they've definitely got smaller, yeah. Snickers, I think Snickers is an absolute joke.

They're tiny now. Yeah, they're almost approaching snack slash fun size, aren't they? 62 grams in 1990. Now also, oh, now 48 grams, so a touch bigger than the Yorkie. Lion Bar. I think that's not size, that's weight though, isn't it? Rather than size. So, I mean, and that's the only metric we can work on,

but they could just be using denser products to make it, you mean, and that's the only metric we can work on, but they could just be using denser products to make it, you know, the same weight. Well, it's not denser, is it? Because it's not the same weight. Sorry, heavier products, let's say.

It's not heavier, it's lighter. What? Well, they could be using lighter products. Well, because the technology is increasing and chocolate making.

Could be putting more air in it. Lion bar. 55 grams in the 2000s. I'm not lying you're lying about that Kit Kat you can't leave that lying there

it's not a lying it was 55 grams it's now 50 grams and double decker which is a personal favourite of mine I'll be honest it's got a bit of

everything in there hasn't it 60 grams in 2000 it's now 55 grams so it certainly is that seems like better value than the others the double decker

it's only gone down by 5 grams there's a lot of chocolate bar in a double-decker. I'm interested. It's just sweeping, isn't it? Sweeping. Yeah, it probably is, yeah.

Lips and arse holes in me. He loved a bit of a holy day. Because my old man says about steaks, how do you want your steak cooked? My old man says, rip its horns off and wipe its arse. Oh, deary me. Anyway, should I tell you about the fox? Well, I was going to tell you about how misinformed you can be if you, you know when you buy those sweeteners

that are zero calories or whatever? Apparently, if the calorific content is zero, is under five calories, you don't have to say how many calories there are. Right. So these zero calorie sweeteners are occasionally five calories. Right. Because they're, but they can literally say it's a no calorie, it's these zero calorie sweeteners are occasionally five calories right because they're but but they can literally say it's a no calorie five calories is nothing though

is it i know it's nothing but it's still misinformation isn't it it's not no calories there's something like 350 calories in a pint or something like that it's crazy i mean that's the thing that makes me you know that i can't lose weight yeah pints i like pints i think guinness is the worst for that gu Guinness I'm always surprised How like red wine is And stuff All the nice stuff But if you want to like

Lose weight It's like gin in it But with no tonic Gin and soda We could be doing We could do with Like a slim fast type sponsor What like

Low cal booze Yeah I think so You can get skinny prosecco I saw that in the shop last week Oh there's no point I think with that sort of stuff You're going to do it Just do it Yeah Occasionally when I go to McDonald stuff, you're going to do it, just do it.

Occasionally when I go to McDonald's, and I'm not going to get into the whole secret menu thing again, but occasionally when I go to McDonald's, when I go to McDonald's, I never pussyfoot around. I just get on with it. I get everything I want. I mean, you look at the calorific content in just a burger there.

It's like 700. If you're worrying about cleaving off 200 calories out of a Happy Meal or something, there's no point. There's literally no point. You're going to walk into there and you're going to walk out having had 2,000 calories, bare minimum. That's just what?

That's your daily... Unhappily. To be honest, I could eat a McDonald's every day. Yeah, I could. Yeah, but say I ate one that was 1,500 calories. I could survive on that a day. You can't eat nothing else? Yeah.

Or anything to drink? Just water? Yeah. No, I think you're allowed 2,500 calories-ish. Right. No, that's for a man your size, not for me. Okay, right. It's funny, because I looked into that, and I think I can stop.

I heard it's 5,000. Yeah, I can do 2,800. What? Because I'm quite a bit taller and all that sort of stuff. But anyway, I think, and I'll stick this out there to the people who want to get in touch at Luke and Pete Show

on Twitter or hello at LukeandPeteShow.com. I'll put this out there now for everyone. Right. McDonald's is by miles, and I mean by miles the best fast food restaurant.

By miles. No. Burger-wise, Burger King out of the big four. Out of the big four. Burger King tastes really plasticky, I think. No.

No, it doesn't. It tastes plastic because it tastes of, it's actually been flamed. But they tastes really plasticky, I think. No, it doesn't. It tastes plastic because it's actually been flame-grilled. But they've manufactured a flame-grilled taste. I don't think it is actually flame-grilled. No. Anyway, can I tell this Fox story? I've got to tell you.

I'll put it out here. I'll preface it by saying, I understand that no one that hears this is going to believe me, but I promise you this is true, okay? This happened to me alone. No one else was around. And I'll tell you... Like the kit got chunky. Yeah, yeah.

No, I'll tell you the story now. So I used to live in northwest London and my nearest overground train station was Bronsbury Park. Do you know it? Yeah, I do. On the overground. And one particular day,

I was working for a company out west of London and one particular day, I had to get up and get into work early. Yeah. And it was probably was I can't remember the time of year but it was still sort of half dark

but not so dark I couldn't see but I was early enough to be at the train station on my own not a very busy train station anyway but I was there on my own

I'm standing on the platform and I've got a photo of the aftermath of this to prove that it happened as much as I can I'm standing on the platform and there's a fox over the other side

of the train station on the other platform B's a fox over the other side of the the train station on the other platform ball of hat no no no no no this you know the famous fox uh picture of the fox come up the escalator yeah this i think this is better than that okay right this is fox opposite me on the platform sniffing around it sees me but it's not overly bothered by it by me um as and as as sort of events sort of unfold, a train coming the other way, so to the platform that the fox is on,

comes along. And the type of station it is, and if you care that much, you can go and visit it, you can see the train coming from quite far away. The train pulls up, pulls up.

The fox gets closer and closer and sort of looks at the train, looks back, and it starts to panic, right? And the fox, to cut a long story short, it's just me on the platform, only me there. I'm the only one that sees this.

The fox jumps down off the platform onto the track and the gap between where the train's going to come and the tracks and the platform edge, okay? And it sits there for ages, right? Right. And the train's getting closer and closer. And the last minute the fox panics and tries to go across the tracks, gets hit by the train's getting closer and closer, and the last minute the fox panics and tries to go across the tracks, gets hit by the train,

and the train cleanly cuts its head off. Right? That ended in... It started like that Match.com advert where the lad's playing the ukulele, and it ended with a decapitated fox. And I'm not happy. I'm going to show you the photo right now.

You took a picture of it. I took a picture of the aftermath. Look at that. Oh, wow. That is a clean cut. It's unbelievable, isn't it? Wow. It was like he was committing suicide.

Have you ever seen anything like that? Hang on. Were you twiddling your moustache and tying him? Don't put... I'm not having that on the Twitter. I'll stick it on the Twitter. No. It's basically Decapitated Fox

with a very clean slightly bloodless weirdly bloodless run by the train wheel no less yeah I couldn't believe it at the time

this is incredible I'll be honest I went round the other side of the platform to get close enough to take a photo and then no and then I sent it

I sent it to a couple of people unbelievable situation yeah so anyway that's what has been frightened my butt this week. That is horrible. That's what's floating your butt, a decapitated fox. If anyone wants to see the photo, you're more than welcome to do so.

Maybe I could DM it to people or whatever. Oh, that's going to take some time. We'll both look after Luke. We'll both look after Luke. If he feels sad about Mum and Dad, we'll both look after Luke. You don't need looking after. No, I don't. That fox did.

I haven't actually got on to the bit I prepared for show and tell this week. Sorry, Karen, what have you been doing this week? Shall I breeze through it real quick? Yeah. It's been... I've got a sidetrack by the fox in the chocolate bar. I'll be quick. I spent ages...

So last week we mentioned a bit about Game of Thrones, and I said, look, I've got to catch up on Game of Thrones. We're not going to spoil anyone anyway, so you haven't got to worry about it. But I have caught up now. Amazing. Unbelievable. But there was an episode a week or so ago which involved a battle and a dragon.

Right. That's not a spoiler. No. And so I started getting a bit interested in this and I saw an article a while back which said, it was some geeky sort of a while back which said, it was some geeky sort of blog, where it said,

we can work out, they said they can work out a lot of stuff about the world that Game of Thrones exists in. Do you watch Game of Thrones? Yeah. So Westeros and all that sort of stuff. Just by the fact that there are dragons there and that they can fly? So what they can say is,

okay, so what sort of atmosphere needs to exist for that to be possible? I mean, bear in mind that dragons don't exist. Well, no, I'm just saying, what they can say is, okay, so what sort of atmosphere needs to exist for that to be possible? I mean, bear in mind that dragons don't exist. Well, no, I'm just saying, what they'll do is they'll take a fully grown dragon, they'll compare it to the size of the human there, and then they'll say, right, this is what atmospheres needed, the gravitational pull, the rest of it, for the dragon to be able to actually fly.

Right. Basically what it's doing is taking the stuff that's in front of you and trying to extrapolate a lot of scientific data out of it. Right, okay. But that's not my point. My point was that that got me thinking about whether dragons could... Mr. Ben. No, whether dragons could evolve naturally.

Because could that happen? We've seen evolution produces a number of weird and wonderful, amazing things that we see every day and we probably take for granted. We've got the Kodomo. Not Kodomo. That's a Japanese child Komodo dragon. Yeah, that's not really a dragon. The nearest thing that comes to it, it doesn't fly, obviously,

and it does leave, I think that delivers some sort of toxic protein into when it bites you, which makes it worse, but obviously it doesn't breathe fire. Obviously. I've made that clear. But anyway, I looked up a load of scientific blogs who've actually talked about this sort of stuff and found out whether a dragon could naturally and actually exist.

And I don't think it can. But when I was doing that, I found out about a parasitic worm. Check this out, right? There's a parasitic, this is what I mean when the world is amazing. There's a parasitic worm that exists, that lives in frogs, and the upshot

of the parasitic worm living in the frog means that it makes them develop loads of extra limbs. So if a frog is living with this particular parasitic worm, I think it's in South America, it can sprout up to six extra legs. Incredible.

I mean, that is incredible. I mean, presumably you must do something with the DNA of the frog. Yeah, I have no idea how that happened. I tried to read, listen, I was, I was, put it in perspective, I was reading, like, blogs from, like, proper scientific journals, and I just couldn't work it out. I mean, that kind of thing, I know it's, like, you've seen the,

it was a few years ago now, I think I showed you, the horrible ant fungus. Yes. Where the affected ant basically a big just big kind of you know like in Cairns where you get knocked on the

head and you get like a big kind of lump on the top of your head. Doesn't it make the ant go to the highest point possible? Yeah well it makes

you basically run into the wherever the ants are basically to find the rest of the ants to infect all of the other ants and stuff.

It controls the brain and it basically makes it grows out the top of the head to infect all of the other ants and stuff. It controls the brain. Yeah. And it basically makes, it grows out the top of the head. It's this horrible kind of fungus thing. But if an ant spots that his mate's, you know, acting a bit weird or he's got this fungus, like, they just jump on them and just get them out of the nest.

Get them out of the... Do they? That's interesting. Get them out of the nest and throw them off, like, throw them out of the nest as far as they can sort of thing and try and kill it before it kills the whole collection of ants. I was a collective noun for an ant. An ant army, I guess.

An ant army, yeah. Horrible. But the video of the fungus growing out of the top of the ant's head is the most affecting thing. Worse than a fox on a rail. It was horrible. I think I've seen a David Attenborough thing on that.

So I think it makes the ant, doesn't it also make the ant go to the highest point possible so it can affect the most biggest area or something? Weird how that stuff sort of evolved. It's so strange that that has evolved over millions of years and that's what that microbe does, that's what that fungus does. Well, if you are a sort of evolutionary biologist

or someone who's very learned in this sphere, much more learned than Pete and I, get in touch with whatever. I'd be particularly interested if there was a world that is possible where dragons could exist. Because this one scientist was saying that, well, there is a beetle called the bombardier beetle, which I think manages to manufacture

a particularly potent acid in its own chamber in its body and spit it out. And that has a burning effect. Is the bombardier beetle the one with the big kind of like pincers at the top, but the really heavy-duty pincers that's part of its like kind of head? No, I think that's the, what's that called? It's not called a scarab beetle, it's something else. No, it's not.

It's about the size of a palm. Yeah, no, this bombardier beetle is quite small. Quite small, yeah. But this scientist was sort of ruminating on the possibility of, essentially, there's a precedent for animals producing these chemicals, so maybe a lizard, in theory, could do the same, and then with friction, as it spit it out, essentially ignite it.

Ignite the... But, I mean, the idea that it wouldn't set fire to itself at the same time is possibly a bit more difficult, yeah. Well, we can breathe fire, can't we, if we, you know a load of uh lighter fuel yeah so maybe get yourself down to glastonbury you'd like a fuel and a bit of poi yeah you're a big fan of fire point aren't you it's a they root if anyone turns up at your party at your art gallery at your you know outside installation and he's got poi. Just kick him in the nuts. I'm not going to say gals, because gals rarely do it. It's always some dickhead.

It's the same category as a white man with dreadlocks, right? They usually come hand in hand, to be honest. Yeah, yeah. And hemp trousers. You wear hemp trousers. Yeah, I don't wear hemp trousers. They're linen. It's two different things. Are we doing emails now? Let's do emails. Shall we do emails?

Yeah. We'll do our proper break now. We'll both look off the loop. We'll both look after Luke. We'll both look after Luke. If he feels sad about mum and dad, we'll both look after Luke. Oh! Well, speaking of people,

or rather animals hurting people with things, bat bombs are back. Are they? Do you remember we talked about bat bombs a little while ago? Yeah, episode one maybe. Episode one. Kevin Griffin says, in the earlier days of the podcast he spoke about animals being used by the military

but I wondered if you were aware of how the Mongol armies had a tactic of requesting a gift of sparrows from their enemies. They would then set a big fire in the bird cages and then release the birds, which would be a flame if indeed that's a word. Yes, of course it is. Of course it is, Kevin.

And then they would naturally fly home to the enemy city setting everything alight that's horrific and that's according to the trustworthy source Marco Polo

the Netflix series that is horrific isn't it Kubla Khan also uses a similar technique with flaming horse in the series

the nasty beggar that is mean somebody tweeted about Game of Thrones Game of Thrones basically just tells you how it's always bad to be a horse. Horses are getting slain right from the centre.

Yeah, I imagine that's probably the case in medieval times generally though, isn't it? Horses were badly treated. I think most animals, apart from the faithful direwolves in Game of Thrones. Are there three-eyed crows? Yeah, three-eyed raven.

Three-eyed raven. Yeah. He's a little dick, isn't he? Right. He's so emo., isn't he? Right. He's so emo. Oh, he's so emo. Do you remember when Spider-Man went emo in that film? Yeah.

Spider-Man 3? Yeah. Dreadful. There's so many of those films. We've got a bit of, not beef, but a little bit of a, we've come to a bit of an impasse in our household because my wife is massively into Marvel. Right.

And so we... Are you a DC? Are you a DC man? No, I don't mind. I generally am enthusiastic, generally sort of lightly enthusiastic about all of it, but there's just so many of those films. I mean, I've got a thing about films generally,

and I like watching them, but a film, I think, should be a proper commitment and you should sit down and concentrate on it, and a lot of them can be quite long, of course. I just think there's way too many films being made. There's way too many films being made, and also there's no mid-size kind of action film blockbuster anymore. You're either a 300 million Marvel job.

Or an indie film, yeah. But they're always three hours long. Make them short, don't go hour and a half. That's why, that was great. That was beautiful. Yeah, that was great. And that didn't feel short, because it was bloody harrowing. I find it confusing with the Marvel films.

I know I'm going to sound like an old man here, but my wife will be like, oh, let's just watch this Marvel film and okay, what is it? It's this. Fine.

Haven't we watched one of those recently? No, but yeah, this is the origin story of the character. Well, they reinvented Spider-Man like four times, didn't they?

and Batman. Donald Glover was supposed to be here and then he didn't get it which is annoying. and speaking of the indie film scenes, you know that film

Valeria, have you seen it? What, the new, that sci-fi one? That's part of a, that's part of a series, isn't it? That's part of a series isn't it that's part of a comic i got i got luke bassoon mixed up with um goddard the other day people um people jumped on me for it on this show a few weeks ago but anyway that valerian which is i think is directed by luke basson is the well the

most expensive indie film ever technically it the budget was 200 million but it was all raised independently right okay it wasn't made by a big studio and then they put Rihanna in it yeah well it's flopped

yeah but they uh but every new thing like nobody wants to work with new IP anymore everyone just wants to use that um that oh god it

had Jekyll and Hyde in it um oh it was The Mummy The Mummy the reboot of uh the reboot of Tom Cruise of Tom Cruise.

Basically wanting to replace that guy who used to be in films. Brendan Fraser. Yeah, that's part of the Universal Monsters kind of thing. So like Frankenstein and Dracula and stuff like that. So they're coming back. The most recent film I've seen, Jekyll and Hyde, is that film The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Yes.

And that film will always be... It was a bloody mess. It'll always be legendary in your and I's working life because when we flew back from South Africa together in 2010, that was the... That only film. It was the only film they had. And it was in French.

I always remembered a film for that reason. I'd already seen it anyway, but yeah, absolutely bizarre stuff. But speaking of films, have you done your emails? Do you want me to do... I've got a couple here. I've got a couple. Go for it. No, no, it's fine. Oh, of films, have you done your emails? Do you want me to do... I've got a couple here. I've got a couple.

Go for it. No, no, it's fine. Oh, well, listen, I just thought... Pick up the Luc Besson. Well, it just might be nice to bring... Not related to Luc Besson. To bring in the film link here, because we've got two emails about the film Deep Blue Sea.

Right. I don't think I'm... It's one of those films that was very popular around about the time of Bad Boys 2. Yeah. Right. I don't think I'm that... It's one of those films that was very popular around about the time of Bad Boys 2. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe, yeah.

A little later. Quite cultish. It stars a little Cool J. For those of you who aren't up to speed on it, it stars a little Cool J. And it's got Samuel L. Jackson in it as well, actually.

Yes. And one or two others, of course. And anyway, I've got two conflicting opinions and emails about it here. One from a good friend of mine Andy Redman he says

hi lads I feel compelled to leap heroically to the protection of the much villainized great white shark now this is based

on something we talked about a few weeks ago where we talked about LL Cool J in the film Deep Blue Sea fighting off a

great white shark by jamming his crucifix into his eye right so this is where we pick up the story crucifix into his eye right okay this is where we pick up around his neck yeah this is where we pick up the story of andy redmond he says he says the great white shark as a species is already considered endangered and which now apparently needs protection from luke and pete's slanderous and wildly inaccurate declarations i am of course referring to luke's fleeting reference to deep blue sea ll call jane's intention to knock out

the film's leading great white shark to which i would like to remind you the sharks in question were actually genetically modified mako sharks ah to refresh sorry to refresh our collective memories i'll quote directly from the film's wikipedia page a team of scientists searches for a cure for alzheimer's disease fluids from the brain tissue of three mako sharks are harvested unknown to the other scientists, Dr. Susan McAllister and Jim Whitlock have violated scientific codes of ethics and have genetically engineered the sharks

to increase their brain size. This has a side effect of making the sharks smarter and more dangerous. Andy finishes by saying Deep Blue Sea was and remains one of Hollywood's most exciting movie plots in history and with the addition of such A-list talent as Samuel L. Jackson and Thomas Jane begs the question how is this cinematic epic

not a multi-film franchise still brutally devouring the global box office to this day? I actually think BBC was okay. I think Big Shark got involved.

If I remember rightly LL Corgi had a great double act with this parrot. I think he had like a parrot. A parrot and a crucifix. LL Corgi played the chef

in this scientific installation Right In the middle of the sea basically So it was a little bit under siege I remember watching A trailer for that film And thinking Samuel L Jackson's let

You know Let himself down there Because he's doing B movies effectively But Elon Michael Caine Does anything doesn't he Yeah Well that's why I didn't understand His criticism of

The lad who did Get Out Okay He's basically saying Why are all these British actors Coming over here And stealing all the roles that, you know, young black men in America do?

You stole every angry old black man role for a good 20 years, mate. And made a pretty penny out of it. He'll do anything. Michael Caine will do any film as well.

Michael Caine apparently missed getting an Oscar, missed the Oscar ceremony or something because he was away filming Jaws 3 or something. And I'll finish off from Steve Fisher,

who's got a slightly alternative view on the film. He says, Hey chaps, I'm sat at work on a Sunday listening to a backlog of your summer exploits and I've just heard

a discussion about LL Cool J fending off a genetically enhanced great white shark with a crucifix. It was actually a Mako shark. A Mako shark, yeah.

He says, I'm not sure why you find this so odd considering the only moments before the shark had locked LL in a catering oven before turning it on.

Whoa, steady. How did that happen then? Well, they got... Didn't nudge it with their nose. Genetically enhanced brains, mate. Sorry. Luckily, LL... Didn't go mans, did it?

LL had a small axe for them, as you do, and chopped a hole in the top of the oven to escape before cooking alive. Just to clarify, this is a bit of a spoiler, but it's an old film, so we have a moratorium on that. LL survives the sharks, but unfortunately, Samuel L. Jackson gets eaten alive while in the middle of a stirring speech. Let's be honest it was a shit film.

Well it was okay. All the best and keep up the good work. Cheers Steve Fisher. So some very we do get a lot of emails and we're very thankful for them.

I'm also regularly surprised at what type of topic is going to really pique the interest of our listeners and I did not expect DBC to do that.

Blindsided yeah. Samuel L. Jackson they're doing speeches and there's a big old shark trying to get at us incredible work really i mean well what i would say is that sharks and foxes haven't fared well on this episode now have you got another email by the way uh do you want an email yeah all right okay all right is it about fox or a shark it's about poo martin hello martin just a quick note to say well done on the podcast i think we all felt some trepidation on how it would be

but it has been great I mean we didn't have any trepidation but I mean feel free to flatter us Martin it's two blokes sat in a room talking rubbish

what could possibly go wrong I know you wanted to keep the focus very much on poo on your podcast which I applaud incorrect again incorrect

you saw I wondered if you'd come across the poo transplants at all have you heard about this? No. You might have covered this in previous pods. We haven't.

I'm all certain of that. As heard on Radio 4, get me, he writes, that there is a wonderful treatment of poo transplants where donor shite gets liquidised and then put inside the body of the recipient, in the gut, basically. These are people who have, like, IBS and stuff like that. People have, like, bad bacteria in their stomach

that kind of eats away at the stomach lining. You know, people have poorly tummies. They have bad constitutions, I suppose you'd call it, back in the day. I don't like the idea of that at all. Having painful digestive conditions. The treatment returns good bacteria to the system and is incredibly simple and effective.

Obviously, the patients accept that there's a certain yuck factor, but when you're in pain, you soon get over that. Awesome, hey? Quite an interesting development. Well, Martin says, I personally saved sharing this gem of info until a family meal where it went down with great enthusiasm. Nice. But the worst thing that I

omitted from my original reading of that email is that the donor shite is liquidised then fed through a tube up the nose and straight into the gut. Oh, I didn't need to hear that bit. I mean, you've got a closer entrance south of the equator, surely. I didn't need to hear that bit. Didn't need to go through the...

Why does it go through the nose? I don't think it can go that way. I think because of the way the human body is arranged, if you like. Right. What, it couldn't go through the intestine? I don't think it would work. I don't think it would work. I'm not a medical practitioner. I'm fairly certain you can get it in you like. Right. What, it couldn't go through the intestine? I don't think it would work. I don't think it would work. I'm not a medical practitioner. I'm fairly certain you can get it in the stomach.

Okay. Well, you have more digestive problems than I do, so you probably know more than me. Probed. I've had me probed up there. We cannot get away from this sort of subject. I've had a poo-cue in me belly. We can't get away from this subject, can we?

No. It was fascinating. It was very, you know, we do it all the time. Some of those more than many. At least that's an interesting take on the issue, I suppose. Through the nose, though. At least say that. Ugh.

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Good morning Man Carter Every single jingle has got a little bit of the end of you talking again Just a little extra Just a little something something A little something A little something for daddy A little something for daddy

Before we get into this i'll never sort of technically pass the jingle but if i may um the email there he's talking about the uh the fecal transplants i mean don't put people don't sully the the men carter feature with dirty poo poo i'm not gonna i'm just gonna say he mentioned something quite i'm quite interested in there which is he brought that up at a family meal and it went down badly. I am personally quite fascinated by conversations that I had at family meals, which is something I've got particularly interest in because in my family,

semi-regularly I'll go and visit my parents back to the family home and my sister will do the same and we'll have a big sit-down meal, might be Easter, might be an occasional Sunday or whatever. And it's always fascinating and dynamic as you get older.

So if you're out there and you have got some great stories about things you've told, make them true. Don't make them up because it's annoying. We can always tell them they're made up anyway.

Get in touch and tell us about them. Well, it's quite stressful. It's stressful for certain parties in the group and some people just want to have fun. I always remember

family sort of dinners. It would always be around about the time if we ever sat down, which we rarely did, rarely sat down for a family dinner, Christmas, literally, just Christmas Day and that's it. And my mum would be, my dad would come back from the pub

and he'd just be that side of being a dickhead. Like, he'd suddenly be very interested in what you're up to. And it's like, just get out of my face, Dad. Just get out, it's fine. Just have a meal and we can escape to our bedrooms and I can play football manager. It's fine, everything's fine. And you can go to our bedrooms and I can play football manager. It's fine. Everything's fine. And you can go back

to watching the television and drinking your Newquay Brown. But he'd just be at the pub and he'd come back and he would be not excruciating but he'd be very interested. And so my mum would like

say something like, I just want some more potatoes. I'm like, no, I'm fine, mum. Are you sure? Are you sure? Like proper, you know. My mum does that, yeah. Just sort of join the team.

And your dad would go, have some more. And I'm going, no, I'm fine dad and we'd have this kind of like really kind of like childish kind of argument

about him being a dickhead and me also being an equally sized dickhead I remember your dad doesn't like talking about feelings either does he

he doesn't like talking about feelings and the two memories I've got unless he's had a few and he's well up for it he won't stop no he will not stop

if you do want to get in touch about that it's hello at lukeandpeachow.com at lukeandpeachow.com sorry and it's hello at LukeandPeteShow.com, at LukeandPeteShow.com sorry, and it's at LukeandPeteShow on Twitter. Two of my memories that spring to mind about family meals at my

house, one was when I was annoyed about one thing or another and I was just sulking, I was probably only about 30 and no, I was sulking about something and I was just deciding I was not going to eat the meal I was just going to not do it

hunger strike yeah basically and it was annoying because Sunday roast is amazing and I particularly loved it and I just sat through the whole thing not eating anything and then it got sent out to my room

even the meat? yeah nothing and my dad came up and I thought I'm going to get an absolute bollock in here and he came up and he went I admire your stubbornness there yeah it's he went, I admire your stubbornness there. Yeah.

It's a good effort. I admire your stubbornness there. Did you eat my dinner? Yes, I did. But. Yeah. But. You're an idiot.

And I was like, yeah, fine. And the second one is, I once choked. It's not badly. Not badly, but badly. It's the inverse of not eating. Badly enough for my dad to have to hit my back a few times on a piece of beef. And the thing that was annoying about it was, and I don't think she'll listen anyway, my on a piece of beef and the thing that was annoying about it was I

don't think she'll listen anyway my sister thought it's hilarious and I thought that was really out of order because she didn't take it seriously at

all so anyway listen I think family meals are a great sort of fertile ground for discussion so do get in touch on it people getting furious for no good reason

yeah there's a lot of that isn't there there's a lot of things that what makes you realise is the things that your family do that sometimes annoy you to outsiders just don're a register on the radar.

Oh yeah, yeah. Like, I've always said, like, I go home and I'll touch my dad's computer and I'll literally move an icon and he'll, but he'll know. I've moved something around or I've asked him to do something that he doesn't want to do right at that moment. I'm like, Dad, just give us the passcode and I just need to do something quickly. He's like, no, I'll go and enter the passcode myself. I go, Dad, it's not the nuclear codes, just give us the password. But the thing is, my dad's

so anal about writing all of the passwords down. Everyone's a different password. But they're all in a red book on his desk. So completely negating the need for telephone banking numbers and all that stuff. They're all in one book. So if yourating, you know, the need for, you know, telephone banking numbers and all that stuff. They're all in one book.

So if your dad actually is a target of espionage, which apparently he's so worried about. Make it so easy. Yeah, exactly. I've never known. Like, I don't know whether, you know,

men are advancing years. I'm just constantly told by, I guess, you know, the Daily Mail, the BBC, that people are just trying to steal your paltry amount of money.

People are trying to steal your money and they're trying to hack you, and they're trying to do this. So, you know, be careful with your passwords, and don't go online, and don't do this. And you're just constantly scared. And install as many cyber defenders as you can on your computer, which in turn is a form of malware

that makes your computer run slowly, and it means you've got to reset it every few months. And also, the reason banks do that is because I know if you get busted, they have to pay for the money. Yeah, exactly. Right, email. I love this email. It's fascinating. This is Mankata, isn't it?

It is Mankata, yeah. But it's a listener-prompted email. I've got something quick for Mankata as well. We'll do it at the end. Casey in Seattle. Hello, Casey. I emailed a little while ago about wasps and figs, but apparently you need something a little more juicy for your show. So I present to you the My Way killings. All right.

You heard about this? Apparently in the Philippines, a disproportionate amount of people were killed during the performances of the song My Way, popularised by Frank Sinatra, of course. It got so bad that some karaoke bars removed the song from their selection and people still refuse to sing it. There's still some speculation

about why this song in particular was so sanctimonious, but some have suggested that the arrogant nature of the lyrics have aggravated an already violent karaoke culture. I don't even understand what you're talking about. Well, I'm reading from the Wikipedia, but the My Way killings are a social phenomenon in the Philippines, referring to a number of fatal disputes which arose during the singing of the song My Way.

So someone hears the song My Way being sang, and then they think, right, I'm pissed off with that person. This has brought it all to a head for me. It is quite an arrogant song, I suppose, isn't it? But yeah, a New York Times article estimates the number of killings to be about up to six. Another source estimates at least 12 between eight years. Opinions differ on whether the possible connection is due to the coincidence of the song

or just the frequency maybe of the song being sung. Yeah, it must be. It's an arrogant song. Very arrogant. My initial reaction to that is that is almost certainly one of the most popular karaoke songs around. And I'd be interested to know

how the amount of killings during my way compares to say for example bohemian rhapsody yeah also very popular but twice as long and also i mean a lot of these uh murders have involved guns put a gun against his head pull my trigger now he's dead and you can do probably a hundred killings to bohemian rhapsody and stay with the heaven yeah when you when you're on the radio and you need to go to the toilet and you put stairway to heaven on think of the amount of killings you can do in that amount of time free bird

bit of free bird yeah exactly great example setting people's souls free don't kill anyone don't kill anyone but that's a that's a much more

there's much more of a chance of doing more killings to those sorts of songs because they're much longer yeah in 2007 a 29 year old karaoke singer of my way at a bar

in Rizal was shot dead as he sang the tune allegedly by the bar security guard I mean imagine with of my weight at a bar in Rizal was shot dead as he sang the tune, allegedly by the bar security guard. Imagine being a security guard at a karate bar, in a karaoke bar. Whoa. So a lot of Filipinos will not sing that song in public

in order to avoid trouble. How do you feel about karaoke generally? I'm not a big fan. Mainly people who really like karaoke are usually really good singers. And they all go, oh, she was in karaoke. Why?

Yeah. I'm drinking. If someone says to me at any point, we're going out, we're going out, great, where are you going? Karaoke, I'm not doing it. No, I'll indulge if I'm already, you know, out, but I've probably done it four times in my life,

in my entire life. The absolute key to karaoke is to not take yourself too seriously while you're doing it. Yeah. You can't be pumping your fist like that guy from Hardy High on Pebble Mill that time. Ha ha ha, boobie, boobie. Which is one of the greatest things ever. What's his name?

Paul Shane. Paul McShane or Paul Shane? Paul Shane, I think, yeah. Paul McShane is Lovejoy, isn't he? No, that's Ian McShane. He's also in Game of Thrones. Yes, he is, yeah. So Paul Shane was in a TV show in England, it's called Heidi High.

In the 80s, something like that. He was a a TV show in England. It's called Heidi High. In the 80s. He was a big fat kind of man. He looked like, if you ever read the Viz comic, he looks like Ate Ace. Okay. Who ruins his life every week buying cheap lager. I'm not familiar with the character. Ate Ace.

Yeah, it was a comedy show set out in a holiday camp in the 70s and 80s, which is very popular. Very low rent. There were a lot of very low rent sitcoms back in the day that we sort of grew up on. Hello, Hello? What? What do you mean? Hello, Hello, that was one. Right.

If you want to get involved, Hello, Hello. Hello, Hello at Luke and Pete Show. It's hello at lukenpeachshow.com. Do you want to suggest something for men, Carter? One thing I find interesting about those sort of sitcoms is you've got a few of them around that sort of era

Dad's Army which I know was before but it certainly went on through that era Hello Hello Heidi Hi it's funny but it's a different

groups of people those sitcoms are classics I've got a fairly tight group of about four or five mates right only feels I can't

really stand to be honest back in the day maybe you know that's probably another one, but the point I was just going to briefly make is that I've got this group of four or five friends

we hang out together quite a lot, and we've got very similar tastes and stuff and things in common, as you'd imagine. At one point, one of my mates in that group, he just started talking about hello, hello.

Yeah. It was the best thing ever. Like real boilerplate comedy. And that's the weird thing. Sometimes you'll know people who are quite kind of like normal and intelligent and clever but when it comes to comedy they've got this kind of really unrefined taste well he was he was sort of like talking about in like the same terms of like 40,000 stuff

but i'm just saying it's all subjective well bearing on the plots again were very boilerplate they were just very kind of they were they're fast weren't they really you know the brit but our sort of generation was like the british empire and you they were fast weren't they really you know but our sort of generation was like the British Empire and you rang my lord and stuff like that you know

it was like real naff shit Game On Game On but Game On was a little more adult I have a little more warmth for that

it was very 90s it was very well there's one there's a start of one of them where one of the main characters

the guy the shut in the guy's the shut in he Matthew starts dancing around to a song off one of the main characters the guy the shut in the guy's the shut in he Matthew starts dancing around to a song off

Gold Against the Soul by the Mannix yeah I write this alone in my bed I've poisoned every room in my house

that one yeah and he starts from despair to wear yeah okay and he dances around and I think they play the whole song

and I was thinking who's writing this the whole thing and then Martin gets out and goes, will you be quiet, please? The first guy, the first actor who played Matt in Game On, which obviously changed.

Yeah. He's, I think, right in the sense, he's a very, very well-respected actor. He was in The Thin Red Line and stuff like that. He was in, he went to Hollywood and

he looked like he was going to make it with Two Wild Cats and Dogs. He's like a favorite of, oh, is that right? But he's a favorite of like Terrence Malick and he looked like he was going to make it with two of our cats and dogs. He's like a favourite of, oh, is that right? But he's a favourite of like Terence Malick and like people like that. But he never really quite did that.

I think he had some sort of issue, like personal issue or something like that. I think so, yeah. I've seen him in the pub. Oh, do you really? That's fascinating to me. And the same,

well, in the pub as in a member's bar in the middle of Soho. But I also, have I said this in the podcast? I saw Joy from Friends in that same pub. Did you?

And he had a a girl on his lap all night Matt LeBlanc so on brand wow that is very good he had a girl on his lap all night

maybe he has to I've got something quick for me and Carter hello so I mentioned a while back about the island of St Kilda

yes it seemed to resonate resonate with a few listeners and it was it's an island off the west coast of Scotland

which is very very interesting in terms of its backstory and how it was very humble of you how it was resonated with the listeners Resonated with a few listeners and it's an iron off the west coast of Scotland which is very, very interesting in terms of its backstory and how it was... Very humble of you. How it was... Resonated with the listeners. This is what I do, mate.

This is what I do. Trendsetter, tastemaker, influencer, Luke Moore. You finished? Nope. You missed Dreamweaver off that. Fuck boy. Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver.

And yeah, the story about how St Kilda was inhabited and eventually evacuated I thought was very interesting. But anyways, Travis Hall sent this in about an island I'd never heard of called North Sentinel Island. Right. I sent you a video of it on WhatsApp earlier. You probably didn't watch it yet.

Oh, we don't have time. Yeah, watch it later. North Sentinel Island is in the Bay of Bengal between India and Myanmar. And, I mean, in real terms, no one really knows anything about it i don't think and the reason for that is because the people who live there and no one again knows how many there are there could be about 40 but there could be up to 500 um the people who live there are so aggressive and i mean literally kill people who turn up there still now that india who technically is a de facto sort of ruler

of the island, it falls under Indian jurisdiction, is on record as saying and has passed legislation to say three mile exclusions around the island, and we have absolutely no interest in creating cordial

relations or sending delegations. But we have given them one of our nukes. No, no. Because we've told them about Pakistan. So there's all these stories about, for example, a couple of guys going there, not really knowing what it was,

and fishing for crabs and stuff. Killed. Guys just come out. I know this sounds mental. Literally, I mean, I think that was in the 90s not long ago a load of guys came out

with weapons just killed them right and there was there was a terrifying story in the part of North Central New Orleans history where

isn't that weird that that's like allowed like it's crazy it's fine isn't it like a citizen of India just killed some people

but I think I think the the Indian government are in this sort of situation where they don't want to... They're technically an indigenous tribe.

Exactly, so they have a certain amount of protection. They've been there. The video I sent you, which is the only documentary type video I can find on it, and I was very appreciative of Travis sending it in because it's absolutely fascinating, saying that there's people who have been living there consistently for 60,000 years. It's an island of some rich history. But one of the stories i've read which i think was in the 60s or 70s there was a period a small period of time

where there was sort of cordial relations and people were able to go there chat and all that sort of stuff and it was fine but that was very very brief but there was a a terrifying story of a ship which ran aground on a reef off of north sentinel island a matter of maybe i don't know 100 meters let's say. And it was ragged around. It couldn't get anywhere. Check this out, right? So these people, these sailors,

are on this ship, fairly sizeable ship, and they can't go anywhere. They've radioed in for help, but they've got to wait because it's quite isolated. These guys on this island, the North Sentinelese, they're called, who, again,

are unrivaled aggression in their make- makeup, it seems. They start making boats to start throwing out and just kill them all. The only thing that stopped them was a storm that came in, which they couldn't get to them.

And when the storm passed, luckily a helicopter was able to come and lift them off. So to this day, 2017, North Sentinel Island is untouchable by modern... I think they're the last or one of the, North Central Island is untouchable by modern, I think they're the last or one of the last communities

to be completely untouchable by the outside world. No one will go near it because it's so dangerous. If you can beat that story, get in touch. I hear it's twinned with Hartlepool.

Yeah. You've been down there Friday night. Yeah, yeah. Been on Church Street. On the YouTube video Dr. Venture I saw, someone,

someone, one of the comments was, this island seems to have a lot in common with Chicago. I wonder if it's like a language thing as well. Do you reckon they, like, just don't speak any languages that anyone else does? No one knows, I don't think. North Central Island, check it out. Come on, if anyone from North Central Island is listening,

guys, come on. It's unlikely. Get together, guys. It's unlikely. We could, guys. It's unlikely. We could reach across that ocean and show the rest of the world how to live. I think you're the man to do it. I think you should go there.

I'll turn in a big old tank. Knock them all over. Oh, well. Enough of murdering indigenous tribes. We don't approve of it. No. Unless in extreme circumstances. I think these guys are asking for it, to be honest.

If there is one indigenous tribe, I reckon, you know, they did kill a lot of people. There's a few other comments on that YouTube video. One was, well, we're not so civilised ourselves

when you think about it. Compared to that, yes, we probably are. I think a couple of comments about Hitler. Right. Isn't that the rule on the internet?

Yeah. Would someone mention Hitler at some point? Godwin's Law. Wasn't there a lot of Daily Mail, there's a Daily Mail, Daily Mail, there's a Daily Mail

watch Twitter page that basically looks at all the comments on DailyMail.com. And there are some pretty extreme views. There was a guy on there the other day.

People who were fans of the Daily Mail. It's a fascinating insight into the psyche of people who read the Daily Mail, which I personally, obviously everyone's different,

but I personally find it quite troubling. There was literally a comment on that Daily Mail watch Twitter the other day which said, obviously everyone's different but I personally find it quite troubling there was literally a comment on that Daily Mail watch Twitter the other day which said what we need now is three Hitler

that's right yeah yeah they were basically sort of talking about I don't know probably Muslims or something like that but it was basically just Hitler is great

Hitler is great Hitler is great it's like wow that's nice to see people crawling from underneath their rocks in political language what one would call

a robust viewpoint. A robust viewpoint, indeed. Right, that's about it for us. Thank you for joining us. We've touched on so many things. We've descended into mentioning Hitler, so the show must be over. Ian Poe, Hitler, Indigenous tribes,

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