The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 123: Errol Flynn's duck centipede

Episode Date: December 10, 2018

It's Monday! But don't despair, because Luke and Pete have got your back. We'll stick with you your whole commute through (providing it's not longer than about 30 minutes), and regale you with tales of the first ever traffic lights, PETA having a bit of a mare, and Pete's recent trip to Cluj.This episode also features a genuinely stunning story about the great Errol Flynn, involving ducks, pork and a long piece of string. Don't miss it. And also please don't try it.We would love to hear from you: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Episode one, two, three. One, two, three, four. Get with the wicked. Can I get a whoop whoop? Chicks, can I dig it? The British Will Smith. Richard Blackwood there. Blackwood runs the show.

RB runs the show. Oh, is it RB? What was the other song he did? He did one, two, Oh, we love you, RB. Check you every day on MTV. Who the man, baby? Who the man? With respect, I hadn't finished. Who the man, baby? Who the man? Now I've finished. Do you remember there was

a TV show on UK Living called, or UK Play, called Honky Mama. No. And it was Old Mo from EastEnders. And she had a couple of kids with big fro's. I think that was the case. Right.

I hope it was the fucking case. This could be another you and me situation. It could be a fever dream. And yeah, it was like, she was like the mum and she was the honky mama. Right. I think it was like she was like the mum and she was the honky mama right I think it was honky mama either way

it does ring a vague bell I have to say honky mama I'll just keep saying it until everybody's it's the talk of the nation big mo from East End as you say

yeah Gary Oldman's sister Gary Oldman's sister yeah what's Richard Blackwood doing now do you reckon in Nail by Honk Richard Blackwood we could probably get in here

he'd probably get on this show no he's back in his den. He's a pretty big cheese, pretty big tear. I met him once in the canteen at Capital Radio and I have to say,

bloody lovely guy. I did a Snickers challenge with him because it was like, you're a man, kind of Mr. T sort of thing. We both had to change a car tyre

and he beat me. He beat the shit out of me. With practical stuff, you're terrible at though. I think that's massively incorrect. No, I don't think so at all. I'm excellent at DIY. No, you're terrible at, though. I think that's massively incorrect. No, I don't think so at all. I'm excellent at DIY.

No, you're not. Electronics, I'll fuck up. You're good at computers, and by that, I mean you like taking them apart and not putting them back together again. The other day, you sent me a message quite late at night about some nonsense, and I replied saying, what are you doing? And you sent back a picture of you hunched over your desk in your house with a completely taken apart microphone.

And this was about 11.30 on a Sunday night. Yeah, but blue microphone. Well, because I'd stuck that microphone on eBay, I'd thought I'd better double check it before I sell it, before I fire it. What do you mean double check it? Send it to the winner of the auction. But what do you mean double check it?

Surely most people would just plug it in and speak into it and see if it works. Yeah, but it wasn't working. So why do you mean double check it? Surely most people would just plug it in and speak into it and see if it works. Yeah, but it wasn't working. So why have you tried to sell it? I presumed it was still in working order. I put it on eBay.

People like you are the scourge of eBay. I'm telling you. I was like, double check. The best thing was the guy won the auction and his first question was, are there any scratches?

At least you are his mate. I had it completely apart. I could say no to that. There's no scratches, mate. Yeah. Blue microphones. I've had two of them now and they're both fucked up. Yeah.

Not having it. Power build quality. We don't use them here. I'm going to vote with my feet. We use Neumann here. I bought a little podcast mic from an all-in-one. I think it was like a Marantz. It's like a microphone and a mic stand.

And you just plug it in your computer or your PlayStation you're away bloody good 50 quid and I was like remember when we started doing the podcast and we had some shit

we'd stolen off a man some mic equipment well he sort of gave it to us and we said we'd pay him later and then we couldn't get hold of him again yeah good point but we used to use

four big mics a full mixing desk plugged into a mini disc player into a mini disc player is that how that started no before you oh right okay I think that was one of the efficiencies you brought to the table that would not have gone on my watch you don't need a mini disc player into a mini disc player is that how that started no before you I think that was one of the efficiencies

you brought to the table that would not have gone on my watch you don't need the mini disc don't worry about that

you don't need the mini disc middle man yeah wow there we go Pete I'm just saying it's

gotten easier than ever before as you can tell with a fucking iTunes chance to do a podcast the iTunes charts are an enigma

though aren't they people are complaining about them there's apparently, there was an article I read recently, this is very niche, I won't spend too much time

on this, but the iTunes podcast charts are very interesting. I mean, maybe people are interested in this because I listen to a podcast right now. There was a guy

who offered another guy five dollars, I think US dollars, and said for five dollars I will get your new your new podcast i forget what it was but it had about 300 downloads in total i will get it in the itis charts yeah he did he got it in like number 10 yeah but like the thing the thing is with the itis charts it is mainly there are other factors uh it's mainly down to new subscribers um and so

if you've got a new show and even if like most shows aren't going, like, a ridiculous amount of subscribers every time because people are locked in. You know, people are either subscribed and they're just left latent in the podcast fall or whatever, on their phone or whatever. But new subscribers, if you've got a podcast that starts and say you get 300 subscribers, you can't get in the iTunes charts because that's new subscribers because it's mainly based on new subscribers. It's quite an antiquated way of looking at things stop saying the word subscribers subscribers um i'll just say fuck and annoy that man yeah he's still listening still listening he's obviously still listening

we'll do some emails from disgruntled listeners at some point not today though um because we got too much to get through but before we go to emails we'll do a bit later um did you see this thing from is it pronounced peter people's for the Ethical Treatment of Animals? I think it's PETA, yeah. PETA, okay. Did you see the thing they put out last week? I saw somebody sitting around today, the don't be plantist, not plantist, don't be animalist, so to speak.

They refer to it as speciesism. Yeah, don't use animal language. Obviously, everyone is, in theory at least, cares about animals. I certainly care about them a great deal. It's one of the big issues of my life, the fact that I still eat meat, well I care so much about animals

and I have to sort it out at some point. But PETA are an interesting case because some of the stuff they come out with is ridiculous. And we saw that a couple of years ago when that film Warcraft came out. Right. Which is a film about a fictional

bunch of beings so it was District 9 mate and that had a message in a fictional universe yeah and Petter were complaining

that it showed them wearing some sort of unspecified fur right which was you know seems like a weird priority

to be honest anyway they've this I'm reading this out partly because I think it's funny which seems like a weird priority, to be honest. Anyway, I'm reading this out partly because I think it's funny, but also because I think I want to hear your thoughts on it. Yeah, do you not think something like that Warcraft thing is just kind of, it's a big film, it's a big ticket thing, massive in territories like China. Yeah, good point. It's the only place that Warcraft, I think, made any money.

So they've got to think of more new and creative ways of going viral and getting their other messages out. So sometimes I think people say ridiculous things just to get... We've made a bed for ourselves in this case. To go viral is the most important thing. So I could go outside, shout something disgraceful, and we get loads of listeners. They don't do that. Yeah, I could go outside, shout something disgraceful, and we get loads of listeners.

They don't do that. Yeah, I know. Exactly, that's what I mean. I'm just saying. He's done that before. Anyway, Petter, I'll take your point, but this is still quite interesting.

Petter, I've released a graphic today. Actually, I think it might have come out last week, but I saw it today, called Stop Using Anti-Animal Language, and a load of sort of well- phrases and then some suggested alternatives and they are for example instead of using instead of saying kill two birds with one stone why don't you say feed two birds with one scone right have they questioned whether a scone would kill a bird? Exactly. You can't feed a bird scones.

Not only that, it's the numbers. One scone, I say scone anyway, so I'm fucked. One scone is massive. Yeah. Unless you're feeding it to a pelican, which, by the way, shouldn't probably be eating scones anyway. Why are you suggesting that? Yeah, so that's one of them.

That's ticked off. RSPCA say, don't even feed bread to ducks. Feed them frozen vegetables. Bread fucks them up. Oh, really? What's scones going to do to them? It's got sultanas and everything in it.

Unless it's a plain scone. Don't put cream and jam on it. No. Next one. Be the guinea pig. As in the guinea pig, you know, we'd use it for guinea pig.

Be the test tube. Yeah, but the test tube isn't a reactive kind of like a guinea pig is it doesn't make any sense there's not animal cells in the test tube it's the container

you might as well say be the cage that you keep the guinea pig in it's the chemicals that are in the test tube that do the business it doesn't work no

so we tick those off we tick that one off what's the next one as in they say beat a dead horse but like flogging a dead horse yeah flogging a dead horse I mean

only dead exactly because I don't think they've suggested feed a fed horse what it's only fed you're over feeding it

you're going to kill it now you're over feeding animals oh right okay these are dreadful this is dreadful next one bring home the bacon yeah

they've suggested you change to bring home the bagels that's alright that one actually works doesn't it yeah and then

take the ball by the horns yeah yeah take the flower by the thorns right they just chose that one because it rhymes it rhymes

a lot of flowers don't have thorns I would say 99% of them don't have thorns fucking idiots I mean I'm really conflicted because I genuinely do care about the ethical treatment of animals.

But on the other hand, this is brilliant. But again, they're just doing it to just get... They're doing ridiculous... They know it's ridiculous. They're just trying to get hits. They're just trying to get their other messages out. And I don't blame them because it's difficult. But then again, it's never been easier than...

It's never been easier than now to... It's never been easier than now, the phrase that everyone uses, to be a vegetarian and to make ethical choices. So it's getting there. But the problem is a body, unless it's a genuine kind of problem of unfairness to humans and different ethnic groups, for example,

languages don't move that fast, unfortunately. So, Petter, stand down for now. First reply to that tweet, what nightmare parallel universe are we in and how do we escape it? But you're feeding the trolls there, aren't you? You're feeding a fed horse there. You're feeding the fed horse

and the fed horse are fascists who've got fucking snowflakes. I can't say fucking anything now, can I? Can't say anything these days. Piss. Yeah, don't say that because our man will piss yeah

Pete last time around we mentioned that you'd been to Romania and I'd been to the US we didn't talk about either of those things would you like to

regale the listeners with our family our listeners our parish yes with tales of afar tales of foreign

exotic interesting lands didn't feel quite exotic landing in Luton at 5am never does mate but the thing is I think that

and I've had this conversation I think with you before yeah because you're not really we talked about this before we came on air you're not really a money grabbing guy at all

you're very generous I'm not money losing you're over generous and I've always said that so I don't understand why you would fall for that really basic trap of oh get a cheap flight to Luton and to Stansted,

when it's just a nightmare and it costs you loads of money to get to the airport and you have to land at ridiculous times and you don't value your own time. Because a lot of the Romanians who come to London and England obviously are probably lower paid than a lot of other people, so that's the only flight that goes directly to Cluj. And I was kind of limited with the places we could go because my friend was in Liverpool Why did you choose Cluj?

Because one of our number was in Liverpool and again because working populations who pop over the weekend or live in Romania and work during the week they fly on really early flights

from Liverpool and back again so it was the only flight it was the only thing that kind of worked for us. It was either there or Amsterdam and I've only been once. I'm not really that asked about Amsterdam.

I thought Romania would be quite an interesting place and going to the spiritual and historical capital of Transylvania was quite interesting. I could not recommend Cluj-Mor. Beautiful, beautiful place, like a proper old European city. And you know, remember when we went to Berlin and it was like the

25th anniversary of the Berlin Wall coming down and we kind of completely passed us by until we got there and we're like shit this is amazing it was the 100th anniversary

of Romania oh right brilliant as a unified country and I was like 2018 what happened 100 years ago and it was amazing

it was just like everyone was just celebrating everyone had Romania flags it was so good like I cannot recommend Clues enough it was brilliant I ended up in a lift shaft

I kicked my they had one of those really old kind of big buildings that have that kind of old wooden lift the ones that you sort of think oh it's going to crash

I'm going to die the I accidentally kicked my keys down the lift shaft and it ended up in the bottom of the lift shaft so it was a hotel you were standing on no it was an Airbnb and I keys down the lift shaft and ended up in the bottom of the lift shaft. Was this a hotel you were standing on? No, I was at Airbnb.

And I jumped into the lift shaft, underneath the lift. And if the lift had come down at 2am when I was in the lift shaft I would have been in big trouble. You're an idiot. I could have moved to the side because I'm very svelte. This is like when you fell on those stairs in Japan and no one was there to find you. Don't get in lift shafts.

Just say goodbye. You can see them, it's so tantalising. You never invite me on your holidays. You go with your other friends and that's okay. And that's okay. Yeah, that's fair enough.

I'm not suggesting you change that policy, but from the outside looking in on social media and all that kind of stuff, you just seem to drink a lot. And this is not a judgement call. You seem to drink a lot and then just wander around

looking at stuff. Is that what happens? What is a holiday if it's not that? It's true, yeah. But I mean, at one point, you're on the top

of a 10-meter diving board at an abandoned swimming pool. Yeah, that was one of the things that the dark tour of Cluj kind of recommended in an old communist swimming pool. I've got a friend who's phobic

of empty swimming pools. They are a bit spooky, aren't they? Yeah. It's the absence of something. The absence of reason. The absence of reason the absence of reason for that being there yeah and also he said

he can't stop imagining himself diving in by accident like breaking his neck yeah to be honest to be fair I had a big tall diving pool it was obviously

covered in graffiti now and syringes but it didn't seem deep enough for the height of the actual thing oh really very weird

we also went to a old communist film old soviet film it was this big old kind of building We also went to a old communist film, old Soviet film. It was this big old kind of building where they used to keep a lot of Soviet film. And when it all got cleared out in like earlier last century, they just pulled out all of the spools of film. And this just laid on the floor in this building for like 20, 30 years.

And so we went to look at this film that was just around this place. But it kind of changed in the last few years from when the report was written. And basically it was just taken over by homeless people. And one of them had an axe and he started whistling at us, so we ran away. Wow.

That is terrifying. I was a bit like how close was he to you so I wanted to go further but then everyone else legged it absolute pussies you hear me

yeah and I wanted to go further but the problem I sort of walked in I was like you know what it just looks like people live here

so I'm just going around someone's house effectively that have taken over but then we saw some big lads round a fire and one of them had an axe because he was chopping wood.

I was like, oh, yeah, I'll probably turn tail and run. Did you not feel a bit like you were rubbernecking? Like it was sort of a reef tourism? Well, yeah, but I didn't go there to look at homeless people, did I? I went there to look at the film, the Soviet film. Yeah, okay, fair enough. I think I was fair to ask the question, though. Yeah, but I recommend it.

If you're one of those people who's a bit tight, it's really cheap as well. Is it? Yeah. Well, it's good. It's interesting that you've gone to a non-traditional sort of tourist destination. I loved it.

People were lovely. And the weird thing was, I didn't realise how close to Latin Romanian is that it sounds so Italian. La ravedere is goodbye. La ravedaci is exactly the same. I think there is, that sounds so Italian. Like, la ravedere is goodbye. Like, la ravedace is exactly the same.

I think there is a bit of a link. I'm basing that on a contestant on MasterChef at this series who is from Romania but lived in Italy, so maybe I'm wrong. But I know what you mean.

There's a bit of a crossover there, I think. Multumesc. Well, listen, if you are looking for a quick city break or a weekend away, get yourself a Cluj.

I cannot recommend it. How much were your flights? Wonderful. 100 quid. Not bad, is it? Not bad. I mean, you're going to Luton, but... Digs were very cheap.

Were they? Yeah. How much was it for a pint? We did a round of four drinks, six pounds. Brilliant. Brilliant. Can't complain.

Don't you think also, though, because we live in London, everywhere you go, it's really cheap. Japan is supposed to be the most expensive place for drink, and it's like, in you go, it's really cheap. Japan is supposed to be the most expensive place for drink. And it's like, in Nagoya,

it's an extra 20p. Right. And before we go to emails, which we traditionally do in the second half of the show, did you know, if you're listening to this on the day it's released,

Monday 10th of December, that yesterday, December the 9th, 150 years ago, the world's first traffic lights were unveiled. December 9th, 1868, the world's first non lights were unveiled. December 9th, 1868, the world's first non-electric gas-lit

traffic lights were installed outside the Houses of Parliament in London to control traffic in Bridge Street, Great George Street and Parliament Street. That was December 9th. January 2nd, 1869, so just over a year later, no, sorry, just over a month later, just under a month later, they exploded.

Oh! That's the end of them. What? And they weren't gas-powered? They were gas-powered. Non-electric over a year later. No, sorry, just over a month later, just under a month later, they exploded. Oh. That's the end of them. What? And they weren't gas powered? They were gas powered. Non-electric gas lit. Oh, sorry, yeah. A month later, they exploded.

And that was the end of that for a little while. Obviously. Yeah, I reckon they should do that with the old speed cameras, yeah? What? Explode them? Just blow them up, mate.

Yeah. We should be able to go as fast as we do on the Autobahn. This is not England. This is the Autobahn. This is the Autobahn. All right, then. Let's have a bit of this, then.

Now, this... She's going to report me. She's going to report me for saying bugger, you know. Oh, just wait till I see your mother. You're in real trouble. Oh, I say, when she's going to go and see you, then tell her this bugger-shaped fuck-shaped fucking sphincter. You're going to have a go at him, are you? No, last episode I say what if he's gonna go and see you then tell her this booger shaped fucking sphincter you gonna have a go

at him are you no last episode I got annoyed with the guy because I think you need to change him but I'll never get bored of Brian Blessard thick headed people

I'll never get bored of Brian Blessard I mean Brian Blessard is a thick headed person literally big old head East Island statue what email do you want

now Pete do you want to hear something about school performances do you want to do something about a man invents a story about his grandparents do you want to hear something about school performances? Oh, yes, please. Fancy a bit of that. That'd be lovely. A man invents a story about his grandparents.

Do you want a quick one from me before you get started? As you're deciding. Nathan Angus says, hello, the Luke and the Pete. Oh, I think I recognise him from Twitter. I think I recognise him from his picture. Which is a song by Gloria Estefan. Some time ago, you talked on the show about the coolest celebrity arrests. You mentioned Boy and Mick Jagger as well.

But I'd like to raise the bar ittle with none other than the legendary Frank Sinatra. Oh, Frankie Sinatra. I have always been a big fan of Sinatra. And so when you mentioned celebrity arrests, I knew I had the winning ticket. In 1938, Frank Sinatra was arrested on charges of seduction

for promising marriage to a lady to gain sexual intercourse. The charges were... A.K.A. the Donaldson Act. I'll promise more than that. You can have me house. I rent. The charges were because the lady was a lady of good repute. These charges were later changed to adultery.

As it turned out, the lady in question was Aldi married. In 1939, all charges were dropped. People have got other it turned out the lady in question was already married. In 1939, all charges were dropped. People have got other things on. Yeah. Baby boomers. Can't prove it. Everyone's fucking.

Yeah. Maybe. Baby boomers was famously post-war, wasn't it? Yeah, a little bit later. Yeah, sorry. That's the point of it. Yeah.

Yeah. People weren't going, oh, it's brilliant, there's a war happening. And there wasn't even a war happening in the US at that point, so. It's weird baby boomers happen

because, I mean, if half your house has fallen off, everyone could see you getting down to it, couldn't you? Yeah. If your house has been half bombed. That's a typically cartoonish interpretation of the event. Yeah. They should have asked me to do that colourising of the First World War.

Oh, I've seen it. Brilliant. I talked about it, didn't I? You talked about it, yeah. Fantastic. You did. Good stuff. Speaking of legendary celebrities from the past

and also speaking, we spoke earlier about PETA, the body for the ethical treatment of animals. Did you ever read about the Errol Flynn

duck centipede? No. It's something that is right up our strata, so to speak. And basically, Errol Flynn, when he was a kid,

I read this like a few years ago and I completely forgot about it. He, in his autobiography, detailed a very complex set of events where he had some ducks in his garden, you know, seven or eight ducks.

Right. And he noticed that if you gave one of the ducks some really fatty pork belly, it would poop it out within a couple of minutes. Right. So it's something about the makeup of the body of the duck. It would just go straight through and it would pop out almost as if it was exactly the same of minutes. Right. So it's something about the makeup of the body of the duck. It would just go straight through and pop out almost as if it was exactly the same as

before. Yeah. It just couldn't process it. And so what he did was, disgusting this, Frankenstein-esque, he tied string and he basically got a leather string, put a bit of pork in the middle of it. Yeah. Fed it to the first duck, came out the back,

attached the string. So I'm just writing this down. Just trying to stare across it. Gave that pork to the next duck. That did the same thing again and again and again until he had a string, almost like a Christmas decoration, of ducks who were just knocking into each other

and rolling around because they were attached to each other. Like a human centipede. That's mad. But with ducks on a string. That is quite mad.

It's mad, isn't it? That is the sort of thing that you'd think is indicative of a serial killer in later life. Even if I thought that, I wouldn't tell anyone about it.

Errol Flynn. And you have thought that. With his little tash in his tree. Yeah. Robin Hood. Steals from the rich. Feeds have thought that. With his little tash in his tree. Yeah. Robin Hood. Steals from the rich, feeds pork to ducks.

Helps them steal string from the rich. Strings up a load of ducks. Isn't that incredible? He was quite a controversial character, wasn't he, Earl Flynn? I can't remember.

It wasn't every man back then rather complex. No, but I mean, to the point of where he was accused, and we can say what we like because he's dead, so you can't libel the dead,

but he was accused of collaborating with Nazis, of being a German agent during the Second World War. Wow. There's quite a few books written about him that accuse him of lots of different types of things. So, you know, look, the guy was a character. Let's call it that.

Let's say that. The guy was a real piece of work. What else was I going to say to you, Peter? Oh, yeah. I've wiped your mind. You have. I mean, that's going was a real piece of work. What else was I going to say to you, Peter? Oh, yeah. I've wiped your mind. You have. I mean, that's going to throw me off. Yeah.

I'm the most well-versed person in sharing a studio with you and not getting thrown off the scent. It's a tougher job than it is. Yeah, giddy up, baby. I'm the bull. Grab the peat by the horns. Listen to this, Pete. Let's take it darker.

Let's take it darker. Isn't there a song? You want it darker? You want it darker. Leonard Cohen? The great Leonard Cohen. You want it darker let's take it darker let's take it isn't there a song you want it darker you want it darker Leonard Cohen the great Leonard Cohen you want it darker yeah

quite nasal aren't you Cohen my mum gave me two books of Leonard Cohen poetry as a young man

yeah didn't rub off did it did I did I tell you I told you guys my mum absolutely loves Leonard Cohen she's like a

huge fan I told you guys about My mum absolutely loves Leonard Cohen. She's like a huge fan. I told you guys about the, I watched this, not documentary, but this guy sort of piling through a lot. I might mention it on a previous show, maybe about two shows ago, maybe. But like a guy who just went through all of the versions of Hallelujah online. Do you remember like in the 90s when grace and Jeff Buckley's version of hallelujah was like a little bit of a hidden gem, a little bit of a classic.

And now it is Alexandra Burke and all that, all that caper. Um, it's just all, it's, it's just everywhere. So every busker, I can't go a day without hearing,

um, the, his version, um, absolutely mangled by someone on the tube. Yeah. It's a disgrace. It's an absolute disgrace. But did you ever hear the post

a year after Jeff Buckley released his version of Hallelujah? Bono did a version. Oh, God. And, my God, it is the worst thing I've ever heard in my fucking life. I'm going to get it up for you now.

I think it was from a solo album. I think it was 1995, a year after Buckley released it. Fucking dreadful. Are we going to hear it? Yeah, here we go. Jesus. What's the drum machine all about? I don't know.

What year is this? It sounds like he's under the bath. What year is this? I heard there was a secret code. It sounds like fucking William Shatner. I mean, it sounds more Coen than Buckley.

I didn't know Bono liked taking drugs. He's heard that and thought, that is good enough to be released.

Worse than tax evasion, in my humble opinion. Sorry, avoidance. Yeah, yeah. There's a difference, apparently. The reason that... I don't get that snobby about people doing covers of stuff

and that kind of thing. I try not to be too... But that is... Yeah, I mean, that's just... Leonard Cohen is a poet. He was a poet who really just put his poetry to music. And so as a result, I think, lyrically deserves a lot of respect.

And someone like Alexandra Burke or that monstrosity from Bono. And Bono, I understand, is a successful musician in his own right. And obviously he's not without talent. It just seems a bit of a shame. He wrote a poem about Noel Gallagher and he recited it at the Q Awards. And he had it on a couple of A4 sheets. And they went on for fucking ages. And he was just rhyming things about Noel Gallagher

for his lifetime achievement or whatever the fuck. And he kept... Because I'd already given Noel Gallagher an award earlier on in the day. So he's mugged me off by bringing Bonham out. Yeah. And he was reading this this who's the only person I can think of

that's more famous than Pete Darnley could he do a podcast yeah at 10 o'clock in the morning yeah he read this big poem and it just went off

the fucking air just three sheets of ratty air four and then Noel Gallagher went up stage and absolutely

mugged him off I went he read that at my at my birthday like absolutely like he hadn't read it like he hadn't wrote it for the occasion

I was like yeah cheers for that I've got you imagine Bonner running around his house I'm late and I've got this poem somewhere I've got to find it where is it

going through old books old Leonard Cohen poetry books trying to find it and just to come back to I'll just do it off the top of my head Razzle Ball we talked about

Dylan and Young on the last show and talked about how we're going to go see them next summer. It's a rival podcast. Dylan and Young show. Yeah, yeah. And I love both of those artists, of course, but they are not making the best music of their career now and they haven't been for some time.

Or MP3 players. And there is something about artists who've been around for a long time that still make quite vital, quite interesting, quite listenable music. And it's fucking hard to do when you get to that stage of your life. Nick Cave's done it. For me, Nick Cave's finest work is so affecting, so powerful, that I actually find it quite difficult to listen to.

And his best record, in my opinion, is Push the Sky Away. It only came out about seven or eight years ago. Why is nobody? I've said this before. And Leonard Cohen, just to finish the point. Leonard Cohen, you want it, is Push the Sky Away. It's only come out about seven or eight years ago. Why is nobody? I've said this before. And Leonard Cohen, just to finish the point, Leonard Cohen, You Want It Darker,

which we mentioned earlier, I think he recorded that about three weeks before he died. And it is fucking brilliant. It is absolutely brilliant. One of the best songs he's ever written.

Boy, that song was quite good. So there we go. Yeah, Bowie's another one. Bowie's another one, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. But he's not reaching the scale, the heights that he's reached in the sort of early to mid 70s

no Radiohead is sort of doing some interesting stuff not for me not for me but they've been going for a long time not old enough brother

30 years is that not good enough for you they've not been around for 30 years have they they're not yet you are I'm talking about men not just men

but any artist men I tell you Kate Bush she's still putting out pretty interesting stuff has she released any new music what yeah she put a putting out pretty interesting stuff. Has she released any new music? Mm-hmm.

What? Yeah, she put a song out fairly recently. Hmm. Yeah, she also did that record 50 Words for Snow

about 10 years ago, which is really good. It's actually weird, it's got Stephen Fry on it and Elton John. That sounds dreadful. Another man not doing very good work

in his late years. What were you going to say before I stopped you? Can't remember, can you? Can't remember. Nah, that's why I did it. Let's get out of here. All right, yeah, cool.

If you want to get in touch, hello at lukeandpeachshow.com. Pete, we really must work through some of these emails. We keep saying we're going to do it and not doing it. I don't know why I bother starring them on the show, The Football Ramble. Ah, hello at the Luke and Peach Show. I ignore that. Email. Hello at lukeandpeachshow.com.

We will chat to you next time. Probably see you on Thursday. Stick around. Hello at dylanandyoungshaw.com I'm Neil Young. Oh no, my house is burned down with all my ponnos in. I have to claim on the insurance. He said ponos.

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