The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 128: Betwixtmas
Episode Date: December 27, 2018We're in that weird period of time between Christmas and New Year where no-one is really doing much of anything apart from you poor souls that have no choice but to go into work. This episode is for y...ou, we got your back.For the rest of us, this week means leftover food, TV specials, the pub and taking it easy. Go on, you deserve it. Also, listen out for a treat of an email involving an enthusiastic approach to a school talent show.Now go get yourself another sherry, it's Christmas. Oh, and we're on hello@lukeandpeteshow.com should you need us...***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Silence, theme tune. Pete Donaldson with you. Silence!
Theme tune.
Pete Donaldson with you.
I'm joined by Luke Muir.
Luke, we have not prepared this studio properly.
We've got the wrong Mike Muff song.
We've got the On The Continent Mike Muffs instead of the Radio Stakhanov ones.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm feeling very uneasy about this situation.
No one would know.
Do you want me to change it for you?
No, because I'll make a rustling sound.
You've already admitted that you're going to take your jumper off at some point during the recording.
Just trying to give you a bit of prior notice.
I don't know. I have just had a big sandwich,
and then I made the rookie mistake of watching a load of videos of,
you know those cows fitted with sort of portholes on the side?
Yeah, I didn't really know about this until you told me about it, and I was sickened.
I mean, I was already sickened by the dairy industry
in the background of my mind anyway.
Except you start your day
with a yogurt
with a smile on your face.
And porridge.
And porridge, yeah, exactly.
So like some cows
to check out their digestion
because they've got many chambers
in their stomach
get fitted with
what can only be described
as a little gas tank tap,
I suppose, what you'd call it.
You know, like when you have a car
and your petrol cap affects it.
It looks exactly like a petrol cap.
Yeah, and they undo it
and the farmer can look inside
and see what's happening in the stomach,
which is fascinating.
It is fascinating.
And he gets his hand inside
and he grabs out some of the food that's been eaten.
And the cow doesn't even blink an eyelid.
I don't really like the idea.
I mean, I can sort... I don't really like the idea of any of blink an eyelid i don't really like the idea i mean i can
sort i don't really like the idea of any of it but i don't i particularly don't like the idea of the
someone going in there not interfering interfering yeah i just like one of those it reminds me of
that groucho marx quite you know groucho marx where he says don't put your hand in my stomach
dickhead yeah leave cows alone no he says um outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Right.
And inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
It reminds me of that.
That's a good joke.
I don't like the idea of that happening.
And also, I find that as we move on,
I know we took the mickey out of Petter.
Is it Petter?
Petter.
For some reason, I call him Peter,
probably because I'm friends with you.
We took the mickey out of them the other week,
and I thought that was legitimate and fun,
but I am sort of aware that the cruelty to animals thing,
there's a bit of a sea change going on, isn't there?
And there's going to come a tipping point soon
where people are just going to not stand for it anymore,
and that sort of stuff is not great.
Well, I mean, is it cruelty?
I don't know.
They're literally trying to study the animals
to see how they can improve their
diets. But they've drilled a hole in their
side and put a petrol cap on it.
It seems, to the layman, it seems
cruel. They've done that to some cows,
but I mean, the rest of the cows, what's happening to them?
They're getting a bolt through their head and then
you know, it's a
McBurger, isn't it? It's all part of the same foul jamboree
in my opinion. But anyway, episode one,
Again, it's a bit rich as a meat eater.
Yeah, I know, exactly.
You're not allowed to get upset.
No, but I'm saying that.
I'm saying there is a problem.
I've got a cognitive dissonance
and an issue with all this stuff.
And a little willy.
But I'm not, yeah,
I'm not strong enough to give up meat or dairy.
No.
So, listen, answers on the postcard
or hello at lukeandpeacher.com
if you want to give me any tips.
Maybe it's too late for us.
You reckon? maybe the generation
below us will find
it a lot easier
because they've not
eaten quite so much
delicious meat
that will eventually
kill us
that's what you said
about when you were
denying climate change
as well
it's too late for me
let me use my CFCs
episode 128 Pete
27th of December
we are in that weird
period between
Christmas and New Year
where the world feels
like it's in stasis
and literally nothing happens.
It's just weird TV specials,
endless football,
and leftover food and booze.
Why do we always find it weird, though?
Because, I mean, it happens literally every year.
Why do people have a problem with it?
I don't think the country has worked out
how to deal with it.
What do you mean?
Like, there's nothing to...
Because it's the kind of...
It's the decompression after the over indulgence on Christmas
and you were sort of
gearing up to New Year
aren't we
people work in that time
yeah but
only dweebs
only absolute nerds
people have to go
into the office
on like the 27th or 28th
I kind of feel sorry for them
the type of people who
my friend and yours
Michael Cox would say
the type of people who
because I've seen him
write this
will say
oh I'm going to go into the office
because there's no one around
and you can get loads done.
Get a grip.
Get a grip.
Unless you're working on an emergency ward
at a hospital,
get a grip of yourself.
I mean, we're going to record
a couple of shows on the 28th, I think.
And you're going to talk sport as well, actually.
So we've both mugged ourselves up.
No, but I don't think necessarily,
as you would always say, Pete.
It's event listening, isn't it?
Well, partly people make an appointment to listen to that show, Pete,
and I simply cannot let them down.
But secondly, as you are very fond of saying, it's not a real job, is it?
No, it's not.
Just mucking about.
Exactly, it's just messing around with your microphone.
And I think the reason...
In front of some inaccurate microphones.
The reason that you are so frivolous with money, for example, that you've earned
is because it didn't take any respect to earn it.
Oh, Luke.
You enjoy your week, don't you?
I enjoy it. I have a lovely time.
Exactly.
So what I'm saying is,
it's not hard-earned money, is it?
I'm sneaking into farms, fields,
under the cover of night,
drilling holes in cows.
Some people do cow tipping.
I do cow ripping.
You're like the countryside Elon Musk.
I just want to make them more efficient.
Put seven stomachs in them.
Oh, drive a little car through the tunnel
into their stomach.
Alleviate congestion. congestion Luke I'm so annoyed
what's happened
you know
on occasion
I can go from
0 to 60
in the Anger Stakes
I was very much
turbo powered
nitro powered
in the Apple store
yesterday
oh how are you in there
well
I don't mind it
people got to do their thing
and you know
it's a little more friendly
than a lot of other shops
that I go in I brought my phone dropped it iPhone X I don't mind it. People got to do their thing. And, you know, it's a little more friendly than a lot of other shops that are going.
I brought my phone, dropped it.
iPhone X, you know, pricey bit of kit.
Dropped it about two months ago.
I sort of muddled along for about a month and a half with it.
So about three weeks ago, I went into the Covent Garden Apple store and basically went,
look, can I get a new screen?
I'll pay whatever.
And it was 290 quid. Bloody hell. For a phone? For a phone. Well get you a new screen? I'll pay whatever. And it was 290 quid.
Bloody hell.
For a phone?
For a phone.
Well, for a new screen on a phone.
Don't do one of those shops on West Northern High Street, mate.
It's no cheaper, because the screen actually costs quite a lot of money.
Right.
It's advanced.
But I basically got an entirely new phone.
They gave me an entirely new phone,
because I also said the Bluetooth was a bit wonky as well,
intermittent faults and all that.
So they thought, you know what?
If he's paying that money,
we'll give him a new phone.
So I got a new phone and then I noticed about 10 minutes out of the shop,
the top left-hand corner just wasn't kind of,
it was kind of coming away a little bit.
I was like, oh, that's going to get worse.
And I paid 290 quid.
So again, I muddled along for a couple of weeks and then went,
found a couple of hours in my day and popped into the Apple store in Regent Street.
Now I go in and he goes, yeah, no worries.
You know, we've replaced it.
So we'll replace this one for free.
Sorry for the inconvenience, Mr. Donaldson.
Did you accept the apology?
Yeah, fine.
All good.
You know, it's not their fault.
You know, these things sometimes happen.
They're very intricate piece of machinery.
I go away for two hours, come back.
Right, Mr. Donaldson.
Our engineers have taken a look at your phone
and it appears that you have put a third-party screen on the iPhone,
which the inference being that I've smashed it yet again
in the two weeks that I've had it
and I've gone to one of those, I fixed it and got like a dodgy screen.
Between you and I, it's just you and I here.
Did you do that?
No, I did not do that.
Okay, right. No, I know by the inference, by the tone of your voice, I know you think I've
done that. No, I just think, I know you were enough to know that sometimes, in fact, all
the time, you can't resist interfering with stuff. Yeah, well, no, I just picked at it
like a scab and the whole thing came off. A week and a half ago, we were talking about
you selling a microphone on eBay and in between selling it and shipping it, you took it to
pieces. Yeah. yeah couldn't get
it back together
meticulously
the pieces
weren't damaged
carry on
and so they
said they
this guy was
it was really
hard to be angry
with him because
he was incredibly
incredibly diplomatic
in a difficult
situation because
he's basically
saying look
it's clear what's
going on here
you have smashed
your phone again
and you've replaced it with a third party screen and I'm like going mate I fucking haven look, it's clear what's going on here. You have smashed your phone again and you've replaced it
with a third-party screen.
And I'm like going, mate, I fucking haven't.
It's been two weeks.
I'm so angry that you're even inferring that I've done that.
But you have all the power here because your engineers have looked at it.
You've seen, basically, their only clue that it was a third-party thing
was a little yellow sticker that somebody had put in there
and a screw was loose.
So I'm like, I can't vouch for your supply chain
from Foxconn in, you know, Guangzhou
or wherever the hell it is in China.
I would pay £250 of my own money
to see you incandescent with rage in an Apple store,
a busy Apple store, saying,
I can't vouch for your supply chain.
I can't vouch for your supply chain. I can't vouch for your supply chain.
Check the statistics.
Check the uptime on my phone.
Has it been out of action
between the hours of nine to five
over 20 minutes?
I don't think so, sir.
And a screen text
going on that to replace.
That's actually a good comeback.
It's a pretty good comeback, isn't it?
No, I didn't.
You should have said that.
No, that was when he got...
You should have said that a bit later.
Then when I'd professed my innocence,
he disappeared for another half an hour
and came back and went,
I've had another few engineers look at it.
Turns out, I think our first engineer
is just a bit of an idiot.
Waste of your time, though.
Waste of my time.
Yeah.
And I was like...
And I thought very diplomatically myself,
said, I'm sorry if I raised my voice.
Oh, you idiot.
I didn't raise my voice.
Double down, if anything.
No, because I don't like it.
I'm sorry if I sound a little
less than pleasant about it,
but at the end of the day,
you're accusing me of something
that never took place.
But then again,
but the thing that annoyed me was
I was off to the gym
and I was dressed like a right old rotter.
Yeah, well, that's that kind of thing.
I dress okay sometimes.
It's not Apple Store's employees' fault that Apple products cost a lot of money.
I completely agree with that.
But it is their own fault that they're all quite pretentious, isn't it?
Everything's pretentious.
You go in any high street shop and it's a pretentious city, isn't it?
And the sort of people that I feel so out of place in posh shops.
You go into like a posh frock shop and you buy your posh frocks.
What are you doing there?
Buying posh frocks.
For who?
Friends, family members.
Who specifically?
Me mam.
You bought your mum a posh frock for Christmas.
A bar, a posh court.
Did you?
For some next.
Okay, so that's not, so you've undermined yourself.
But you can't honestly tell me, I know you live in a different world to the rest of us
and I'm trying to get impatient about that. But you cannot tell me that when you walk into the Apple store,
as I've done before, and said,
got a new phone, the forward-facing camera's not working,
can you please look at it?
Or I want to buy one of those little...
Why do you want the forward-facing camera working, you perv?
I'll tell you in a minute.
I want one of those little adapters for headphones
that cost, astonishingly somehow
cost a tenner
I just
what I want to do
is I want to do
like every other shop
you can do
go up to the shelf
take it off the shelf
take it to the counter
that is
that is
shopping
as I
as I imagine it
as it should be
again generational
yeah but
it doesn't matter
because
the guy comes along with a little iPad
and says,
yeah, I'll probably fit you
in for an appointment on Friday.
I don't want an appointment
on Friday.
I'm fairly certain,
I think you probably
muffed that up
at the expectation
of what you wanted.
And I'll tell you something now.
Why would he book you
in a place to buy a little...
My wife bought a brand new
iPhone recently
and the forward-facing camera
didn't work
and she went in there
on a lunch break
to get it fixed
and they couldn't fit her in for like two days.
It's a joke.
It's an absolute joke.
Who do they think they are?
It's ridiculous.
I'm going to get one of those phones I can't even say.
Huawei.
Huawei.
Filled with Chinese naughty technology.
Anyway, moving swiftly on.
No, I want to talk about motherboards.
I want to talk about Chinese systems.
They did this test on computers.
So a computer is defined as a unit that can kind of solve problems and stuff.
And a computer as we know it nowadays on a motherboard,
there are about 50 computers on one board.
So when you buy a PC, you're buying literally 50 PCs.
It's incredible.
Every little bit, every little kind of chip on your motherboard
or on your mobile phone can do a little bit of computing.
So it could be its own little system.
It's fascinating.
Take a break.
Hey, y'all, it's Mama Meemaw.
And today I'm going to show you what I've been doing
to take care of the pantry moth situation.
Peter, before we go into email.
Pantry moths are easier to figure out, I think.
Do you know, on every pantry moth, there's about 50 PCs.
50 PCs.
Oh, there wasn't that Black Mirror episode.
That was bees, I think.
Oh, that's the only cultural touchstone I've got.
No, I'm actually quite good on sci-fi.
Oh, isn't it spooky?
I could talk sci-fi with you if you want to.
All right, Aaron.
What's your favourite sci-fi?
Black Mirror.
It doesn't involve a reflective service.
Before we go into emails,
I'm desperate to get this out of you
because I think it might be a bit of radio gold.
On my computers.
No.
What are you normally doing between Christmas and New Year?
Because you already said last time that you spent,
and I thought it was a little bit sad,
and you'd be happy to join the Moore family anytime you want.
You spend quite a lot of Christmas day
flying solo
because your dad goes to bed early
and your mum's doing stuff.
So what do you normally do
in that bit between Christmas and New Year?
Because I know that we're coming back
to do shows on the 28th,
but between that time,
usually what do you do?
Because you're normally away.
Well, the fact I have to come back
for the 28th,
I'm coming back for doing Rambo.
But that's the first time in ages
you've done that.
Yeah, because I usually go away
for a while.
Yeah, exactly.
So what do you do
between Christmas and New Year?
Playing with your toys?
A bit of Lego?
To be honest, the last five years, I think I've been away.
The last four years, I've sort of flown out on as soon as I could,
like the 28th or something.
So I've stayed in Hartlepool for a few days
and then sort of tried to get away.
I think that was the time that we went to San Francisco
and I forgot my passport
oh yeah
risky
missed your flight
missed me flight didn't I
so no
it's been
it's been basically
just trying to get away
so I don't actually
this is the first Christmas
I've spent in London
for about 10 years I think
over Christmas
right
just pretty big
big taters
so it wasn't radio gold
I was hoping for
no sorry
I thought you hoped
well in the new year maybe I'll tell you what I did.
Yeah, that'll be better, I think, yeah.
Should we do some emails, Peter?
I've got one here that I'm desperate to read out from Keith.
And he's not said I can't use his surname,
but I'll just call him Keith.
He says, on the continuing topic from a few shows ago
of schoolboy talent shows,
when I was in fifth and sixth grade, which is 11 and 12,
my school had a lip sync contest
wherein students would choose a tune
and do their best pantomime to go with the song.
When you read the first paragraph of an email from a listener
and you hear that as a first paragraph,
you think, oh, this is going to be good.
I'm probably excited for this.
Anyway, the first year I performed
Queens, Another One Bites the Dust.
Nice.
Luckily, no pictures that I'm aware of exist as I was kitted out, listen to this. Anyway, the first year I performed Queens, another one bites the dust. Nice. Luckily, no pictures
that I'm aware of exist
as I was kitted out,
listen to this Pete,
in a vinyl faux leather jacket,
a pair of camp sunglasses
that exploded
as I tossed them
on the ground.
Wow.
On the let's go.
Mission impossible.
Which Freddie begins
with his vocal contributions.
My erratic performance
including doing the splits.
He's 11, this kid.
Doing the splits
and I was rewarded for my efforts with a most enthusiastic prize.
A trio of my class...
That's like best improved, isn't it?
Yeah.
A trio of my classmates won that year
with a well-choreographed suited take on Genesis' I Can't Dance.
I can't believe that's going ahead of Freddie.
Yeah, but you know for a fact that's right up the teacher's street
because they would have been the judges, wouldn't they?
Yeah, true.
Definitely.
Anyway, Keith continues,
the following year I attempted to hitch
onto that success train
the boy that led
the Genesis choreography
wanted to follow
with an air band
version of
Born in the USA
for which I was to
play Max Weinberg
despite having never
sat behind a kit
or indicating at all
that I possessed
anything resembling
rhythm
right
needless to say
I was kicked out
of that band
to solo again
I performed a version
of the massive
smash hit single
Smells Like Team Spirit
which involved me
bursting out from
a large cardboard box
in a cabane outfit
miming away on a toy
plastic electric guitar
during the choruses
and pummeling
the ever loving shit
out of the box
with a guitar
which refused to yield
to the onslaught
during the choruses
I did inspire some friends
in the audience
to join me in destroying
the cardboard box
that held me
and walked away
not with first prize but still with a certificate for the local video store,
which is not a bad result.
That's magical.
Keep up the good work.
Best regards, Keith.
Now, is that better or worse than your one-man bread performance?
I was thinking when he was sort of saying smash up the thing,
I remember getting some real giggles.
It was like a drama class we had for about three months
when a floating drama teacher arrived in our primary school.
And me and a friend, Ross Thompson, who once punched me in the face.
Why?
I can't remember.
I probably deserved it.
Were you wearing glasses then?
Well, he went for the top of the head.
What?
He was very conscientious.
Big target.
I hit him back.
I had hair back then.
So he hit you on the top of the head so you hit you on the top of the head
hit me on the top of the head
I can't remember why
what a proper punch
or a thumb paw
no it was
my first proper punch
I punched him back
so it's alright
it's all good
we fucked
I don't know
I don't know what we did
was he the school bully
kind of yeah
he kind of grew into it
but it got to 11
and then you're kind of
not the school bully
because you go to a different school
yeah you're the youngest again
yeah exactly
and then Petey goes to
the good catholic school
oh yeah
oh yeah
see you later suckers
did you pass the exam
didn't need to
do I love Jesus exam
yeah
I did
my sister didn't
I got in
and I did a couple of years
at Martyrs
and my sister couldn't get in
oh dear
because of my crimes
but you had to pass
an exam to go there.
We had to pretend
that I was banging
a fucking God,
I tell you what.
Oh, what I couldn't tell you
about,
I couldn't even figure out,
on the little peach short,
I just remembered
a few weeks ago,
I couldn't remember
whether he died on Easter.
I mean,
that was six months ago
and you said to me,
out of the blue,
I wasn't expecting it,
I'll be honest,
how did Jesus Christ die?
Yeah.
I mean,
probably the most famous death ever. I can't think of a'll be honest how did Jesus Christ die yeah I mean probably the most
famous death ever
I can't think of a
death that comes
anywhere close in
terms of notoriety
than that of Jesus
of Nazareth
the T500
shooting a GFK
Terminator
T1000
no T1000
oh T800
where he goes
down to the
thumbs up
I mean that's a
big leap T800
is like a
mechanical item.
Yeah.
And T-1000 is literally
made of liquid metal.
Yeah.
What happened between
those two iterations?
It's Moore's Law over again,
isn't it?
When was...
How long was the beta?
Is that a hundred...
Presume that was 200 iterations
I'd love to see T-900.
Yeah?
T-9...
No, T-998.
Still smokes a cigar.
Still...
Still...
He's like half mortal metal.
Still steals motorbikes.
But he's still a bit...
I remember when I first saw that movie,
two things.
One, the special effects just blew my mind to pieces.
And I and my dad,
me and my dad had a big bonding episode
after watching that.
Because I was about 14.
I probably shouldn't be watching it.
I was 18.
And my dad just thinking it was amazing.
And it is amazing.
And the second thing is
just being absolutely terrified by the T-1000.
Because the thing about it that makes it scary is not the fact that Robert Patrick is a good actor,
which he is, particularly in that.
But the idea they set out the premise, which was a more innocent time, right, back then.
They set out the premise that whatever you do to stop this thing, it just keeps coming.
And that's terrifying
don't you think
yeah anything
that's kind of
uncontrollable
and relentless
like the passage of time
that's not something
we've got to look forward to
when AI comes
and takes over the world
but
my fingernails are doing that
at the moment
a few minutes ago
I feel like I might be
a robot that just
all it can do
is grow keratin
a few minutes ago
you were getting punched
in the forehead
by someone called
Ross Thompson
Ross Thompson and then you were going to talk the forehead by someone called Ross Thompson Ross Thompson
and then you were
going to talk about
he was alright actually
I was friends with him
oh yeah we did a bit of drama
we did this off the cuff
kind of improv
you told us this
and the guy didn't turn out
did he
no no no
this was different
you talk about cubs
see now you're doing
improvised comedy
talking about school
they said do
in drama
go into a room
and do this
do something
and we did it
and we got some
real laughs
and I was like
that was I think
the first bit of
performance to a crowd
and I think if my life
had gone another way
maybe I could have
been somebody
successful
could have been successful
I could have got that bug
and sort of joined
a theatre or something
and been a bit of
a bloody show off
what?
well you are that already
you just didn't join
the theatre company
I just remember sort of walking around I remember? A bit of a bloody show-off. What? Well, you are that already. You just didn't join the theatre company.
I just remember sort of walking around.
I remember I put my hand inside the VHS video and I lifted it up and all the kids laughed
and the teacher told me to put it down.
That's a good, easy room, that.
What?
Putting your whole child's hand into a Betamax video recorder
and then lifting it up and going...
I mean, that's not
groundbreaking.
Yeah,
but I remember
the seed that
was planted that
day.
Yeah,
I think so,
yeah.
It's grown,
isn't it,
to a big oak
tree,
isn't it?
At your school,
because you're
obviously a similar
age to me,
what year did
you finish
GCSEs,
97 or 98?
98,
98.
Okay,
right,
so you're a
year ahead,
you'll be a
year behind
me.
When I was,
the school I went to, the senior school I went to, talking about these, right. So you're a year ahead. You'll be a year behind me. When I was, the school I went to,
the senior school I went to,
talking about these talent competition things
that you did at the end of each year,
like Keith was talking about.
No, I started university in 98.
No, you didn't.
It's impossible.
No, I did.
Unless you were some sort of child prodigy,
that's impossible.
Right.
I was born in 1981.
Yeah.
So you're younger than me.
Right.
You would have started,
the earliest you could have started university
would have been 1999.
All right, well, 1999 then. It's not 98, is it? I still didn't do my GCSE. I still didn't do my GCSE. on yeah so you're younger than me right you would have started the earliest you could have started university would have been 1999 alright well
1999
then
but I
still
didn't do
my GCSE
I had A
levels in
between
didn't I
you mad
man
so
your maths
are all over
the place
I did
GCSE
97
and A
levels in
99
anyway
we're getting
away from
the point
the point
I was going
to make
which again
I don't know
what the point
is yet
and it's quite
boring
so I don't
know why I'm
fucking
dying on this
particular hill
but anyway
at the end of the year
school talent competitions
were at the school
and I think probably
all the schools
around my area
every single school
there are schools
in your area
five
like an ad
on an internet page
five girls got together
and did Spice Girls
I like the first bit
of that sentence
I'm telling you
five girls got together
and did Spice Girls
did that not happen at your school?
Yeah, everyone did Spice Girls.
Exactly, exactly.
Including the male teachers, he did like a drag version.
There was a great culture of dads in social clubs at Christmas
or at Easter or Harvest Festival,
any excuse to dress up, and in Hartlepool, black on,
to do the Spice Girls.
Any excuse, the dads of the town would do it
because there's something inside us that we don't want,
we pretend that isn't there,
but we all would secretly want to be pretty girls
on RuPaul's Drag Race.
Yeah, sashay away.
Sashay away.
Pete, and also, if you're asking me,
did I join up with a lot of girls
and do a beautiful rendition of Belinda Carlisle's Heaven is a Place on Earth at the end of my end of year thing, the answer is yes, indeed, I did.
Good song, that.
Absolutely did.
Speaking of something you've mentioned there, which is a political hot potato for obvious reasons.
Why?
This idea of blacking up.
It's not really.
It's kind of cut and dried in many ways.
It's the potato that's been cut in half.
Okay, what I mean is you've made a little stamp and you're stamping
the Christmas trees
for the Christmas cards.
You're saying wrong.
You're saying nonsense.
But the point being
that people still do it
which is absolutely outrageous
but
I was thinking about this
the other day
and I happened upon
a thing on the TV
about Ben Kingsley.
Oh, when he did Gandhi.
Blacked up for Gandhi.
Won an Oscar.
Not that long ago. Not that long ago. Guy from Short Circuit did not win an Oscar. No, when he did Gandhi. Blacked up for Gandhi. Won an Oscar. Not that long ago.
Not that long ago.
Guy from Short
Circuit did not win
an Oscar.
No, but he still
did it around the
same time.
He still browned
So it's Hollywood
made a rod for its
own back there.
Sir Ben Kingsley
won it.
Arguably his most
notable role.
It's terrible, isn't
It's really bad.
Isn't it?
Tropic Thunder.
Why is that?
Why does everyone
forget that?
That was even more
recent.
That was even more recent. That was even more recent.
Yeah.
To be honest, they love a dress-up in Hartlepool.
I'll go home, and I've said it before,
there'll be a Michael Jackson dressed up,
and he'll be blacked up.
You've got the choice there.
Yeah.
You can be white Michael Jackson.
It's funny how the world works,
and suddenly all of a sudden everyone becomes,
in quotes, woke about stuff.
You can't do anything nowadays, they'll say.
It's like you never could, mate.
You know the Christianiano rape accusation?
Yes.
That broke before,
but no one picked up on it.
And it broke again
after the Harvey Weinstein
and the Me Too thing.
And it became massive.
But did it not break
because it was just
either even more unsubstantiated
because the cogs started turning
because of certain legal,
you know, there was a legal case starting and also people don't want to touch it. the cogs started turning because of certain legal,
you know,
there was a legal case starting and also people don't want to touch that shit.
Oh, right,
so you think the case was a bit more advanced?
It would have come out whatever.
I mean,
footballers have been accused of rape
like pretty much every year
that, you know,
the Premier League existed,
for example,
just because that's the way
it should work,
to be honest.
Right.
All right,
do you want to do another email?
I can do an email Sophie
Sophie
hello Sophie Barnett
hi Luke and Pete
I love your podcast so much
I listen every day
on my way to work
it's a real treat
every day
impossible because it's only two a week
she could re-listen
I recommend re-listening
but delete it from your phone
and then download it again
definitely do that
do that
what's the re-listen value
because I said the re-watch of TV programs is a huge factor
in how much I like them because it shores up my love for them.
So, for example, The Inbetweeners, as you know I love.
Yeah.
That re-watch value is so high.
You could put any episode of The Inbetweeners on now
at any stage in the episode and I'll watch it.
I'm assuming the American Office.
I've started going through them again.
I can see that, yeah.
But the weird thing is,
Amazon has got a weird quirk
in which some episodes of the earlier time,
I don't know what it is,
it's a refresh rate issue or whatever,
I hate to get technical again,
but they've sped up the episodes ever so slightly,
so everyone's got a weirdly slightly higher voice.
Why have they done that?
I have no idea.
That's a strange thing to do.
It must be just some kind of compression fuck-up.
Is that a thing?
No, I think it's just a compression fuck-up
that someone's fucked up and no one's really noticed
because no one's really that interested in, you know,
season four, episode three of The Office.
And it's only a couple of seasons.
I searched on Twitter for anyone else who'd noticed this
and there's like me and two other people.
And I actually tweeted one of them and went,
yeah, what the hell is going on?
I had to search Twitter and you were the only one talking about this.
We started a club.
This goes right to the top.
How long before one of you starts talking about
blaming George Soros?
Turn the guard or frog's gay.
They're turning the office fast.
Sophie Barnes says,
hi, Luke Peed, love the podcast, etc.
However, Luke, please, please, please stop reviewing films
and then ruining the entire plot for us.
You recently talked about the exciting documentary Free Solo,
which looks incredible,
but then you went on to dissect the entire film in great detail.
I know it's a documentary,
which might not have a definitive cliffhanger ending,
pun very much intended,
as opposed to a feature film,
but I feel like I've already seen the documentary
based on your very detailed description.
Consider leaving out some of the more detailed parts.
If anything, it's a compliment, isn't it?
I've brought it to life to her to such an extent
that she no longer feels like she has to watch it.
Doesn't need to watch it.
Just listen to the little Pete Shaw,
load up the OS El Capitan on the operating system
and just look at the desktop background.
I haven't got any room on my MacBook to download it,
so I can't.
El Capitan.
I mean, I would say, Sophie, I appreciate your feedback.
Pete and I do have sort of semi-serious discussions
about spoilering of TV shows,
and we decided on a sort of cut-off time, didn't we?
So, for example, The Sopranos,
you can talk about what happens in that,
because it's been like 15 years.
But something like the current season of Game of Thrones,
I wouldn't spoil it.
I think, and I apologise if I've ruined
your potential future enjoyment of Free Solo,
but as far as I'm concerned,
the trailer does make it very clear
what happens and how it happens.
And it's really more about the experience
and the shooting of it and the journey
rather than specific individual parts within it.
And I also have to say,
I don't think I revealed any more information
than any sort of proper film critic
would have done
the ending
to The Sopranos
has Tony Soprano
putting a dead
mobster
inside a cow
yes
via the pothole
and lowering it down
on exactly the same lift
that T-800 had
in Terminator 2
and then he puts his
little cow
the cow does the thumb up
yeah with his hoof
and then he goes
and dies
well how do you feel do you feel like I spoiled it for you I was never going to watch that film anyway He does the thumb up. Yeah, with his hoof. And then he goes... And dies.
Well, how do you feel?
Do you feel like I spoiled it for you?
I was never going to watch that film anyway, to be honest. Say if you do, then.
But just say if you do.
I can't remember what you...
I mean, you said that he was still alive, so...
I mean, that's the sort of thing that you might not know.
Everyone knows he's still alive.
Everyone says, oh, he's on everyone's lips.
Can I just say, it made international news,
and he was interviewed on more than one occasion about it.
Yeah, by Dweebersides.
By Dweebersides, I'm afraid.
By Dweebs, yeah.
You are a Dweeb, but just in a different area.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm Tech Dweeb.
You're Rock Dweeb.
Space Dweeb.
Which was one of the...
Boring.
I want to see humans creating shit.
Do you remember Rock Lords?
Yes, I do, yeah.
I think one of them was called Rock Dweeb.
One of the... there's a film
out at the moment with um ryan gosling and he plays neil armstrong i do believe oh it's called
first man moon man first man yeah first man that's man my granddad went to the cinema and
watched that so it was excellent he said he did why is he bringing a granddad he goes to the
cinema all the time all right like he like he sort of went oh yeah but you said that as if he was
a man watching
the colourisation
of the World War 1
footage
oh yeah
that was so accurate
don't
yeah
I'll never be in the film
grandad stop talking shit
don't talk about a film
some of you might get upset
well
the whole peril is
that oh they're running
out of gas
they might not get
to the
planet
moon
planet or they might not get. They might not get to the planet moon.
The planet, yeah.
Or they might not get to Earth.
That's what I meant by the planet.
But obviously, all that peril's gone because you all know that Neil Armstrong survived
and lived to an older age.
Exactly. That's the thing, isn't it, right?
Have you heard...
Speaking of that, speaking of planets,
did you see this Steve Malloy guy
who's got this ridiculous climate change denial?
Right.
And he is a... I mean, he's a ludicrous individual and he tweeted um this the other day saying um defazio he's quoting someone else called defazio uh on climate change he says this
is the existential threat to the future of the planet this is insanity for comparison the
atmosphere on venus is 96.5 co2 and the planet is still is insanity. For comparison, the atmosphere on Venus is 96.5% CO2
and the planet is still there.
In contrast,
Earth's atmosphere
is only 0.04% CO2.
Well, they're flourishing
out there, aren't they?
It's not really life
as we know it on Venus,
though, is it?
Give them a ring, Steve.
Yeah.
Pop over to Venus,
see how they're getting on
in their 900 degree
Celsius temperatures
and noxious clouds of gases
all over the fucking planet.
Right, this is his little thing.
He looks like, there's a young boy on YouTube who's about, I don't know, 16 or something.
The guy about the Office episodes being sped up.
And he's posh.
And he wears a little blazer.
And he basically reviews things like McRib.
Okay, right.
He's an adorable little chap.
Not Peng Life?
No, no, no.
Well, he's basically white, Peng Life.
And he kind of combs his hair back
and he puts a blazer on
and he sort of reviews quite gauche food
and sort of talks about good manners and stuff.
That sounds quite good.
He looks like Kevin McAllister from Home Alone.
Steve Malloy looks like him,
but his actual Twitter bio,
I'm just looking,
co-founder of burnmorecall.com.
I saw that, yeah.
Trump EPA transition team.
Eagle Scout.
Why do Americans do that?
Eagle Scout.
Who gives a shit?
Who gives a shit about burnmorecoal.com?
Burnmorecoal.com.
I want to see that.
I want to click on this.
Can I just say,
I was in the Scouts
and I bloody loved it.
It looks like a Myspace page.
I wouldn't put it on my bio
of my Twitter, but I loved being a Scout.
No.
It was great.
Weren't you a Scout?
You were a Cub, weren't you?
I was a Cub.
I didn't go to Scouts because they played too much football and I didn't like football back then.
I'm going to donate to his cause, burnmorecoal.com.
If you donate...
Send some coal.
If you donate at least $50, you get a Burn More Coal coffee mug.
It makes a great stocking stuffer.
I'll tell you what, I'd get one of those in the office.
To put next to the fire.
It'd be funny.
Yeah, beautiful.
There's nothing wrong with being an Eagle Scout, Peter.
Or a climate change denier.
It's a very noble thing, I think.
I love the ideas about being an outdoorsman.
It's probably because I'm not one.
President Trump loves beautiful, clean call.
Stop talking about Trump.
That's what it says, that was one of the quotes.
Let's get out of here.
Let's do it.
Let's burn more call. We'll. That was one of the quotes. Let's get out of here. Let's do it. Let's burn more coal.
We'll be back on New Year's Eve,
and we're probably going to sum up
how 2018's been for both of us, Pete.
Oh, no.
Both separately and together,
so stick around for that.
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We'd bloody love to hear from you,
and we hope you're having a lovely Merry Christmas.
I've found seven lumps.