The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 130: Donaldson Futurism

Episode Date: January 3, 2019

Happy New Year everyone! We're now officially in the future, it's 2019. How exciting!On today's episode we discuss some of the predictions about what 2019 might look like, including the end of the working week as we know it (something that ended for both Luke and Pete some time ago...), what the future holds for both The Luke and The Pete, and the danger of the Deepfake. Oooh, scary.As discussed, if you've got something you want us to tackle in 2019, email us: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm still annoyed at how hard I stacked it on the Nile Rodgers interview. I don't want to start 2019 like this. Well, 2019 is the future, mate. What did you imagine 2019 would be like when you were say 12 I was thinking drones would disrupt Gatwick Airport I've told you before

I was worried that all footballers were going to be taken over as robots and that would be really boring but it felt like it has become boring

but in different ways because along the lines of that thing when the internet first started that guy who wrote that article for the BBC

I actually met him I think he's a guy called Dan I can't remember his surnamebc i actually met him i think he's a guy called dan i can't remember his surname i've definitely met him he um he wrote an image a man called dan who works the bbc yeah no right you can't find him anywhere he he wrote an article saying about how england were going to have like a world beating football team in like 2008 or whatever and it was obviously ridiculous because we didn't qualify for 2008 2008 and he got, and he got mocked for it. But when you're a kid, chiefly because of things like sci-fi movies and stuff,

when someone said to you, oh, in 2019, I mean, you would be thinking the world will be completely unrecognizable. My question to you, Pete Donaldson is, is it unrecognizable?

And we just not noticed it because it's been creeping or is it a complete letdown? You went into a shop and tried to buy something and they said they'd pencil you in for an appointment sometime in the future. Now, if that's not a tacit change in everything that we've come to hold, yeah, of course everything's changed massively. We can now order taxis with a box that sits in our pocket and the taxis come to us and then they drive us somewhere

and then we get off and we never have to give them money. Can we fly? Money, we can fly. We've got those guys with the little jetpacks that only work over water. You've got the drone guys, you've got the drone police in Dubai. They'll throw a drone at anything, them lot. It's not crossed over to sort of public consciousness now, is it?

It's still a bit tomorrow as well. Whoa, look at this. All right, well, yeah. It was never going to change that quickly, but give it another 40 years and we will be seeing manned drones. If I said to you in 1992

when you first joined that Catholic senior school, what's 2019 look like? You'd have said straight away flying cars. No, because I would have been fully indoctrinated and I would have went

the return of Jesse, baby. He's coming back I don't know whether Catholics believe that can't remember can't remember how he died pretty sure he is dead but he's coming back

where have you been Jesse one company that prides themselves on what I think they call future scoping is a company called Nesta now I'll be completely honest with you

I never knew anything about them until yesterday when I started looking up um predictions for 2019 specifically for this show the first show of 2019 luke and pete episode 130 in which you're very welcome everyone listening and they come up with 10 things that they thought would happen in 2019 now i was quite disappointed when i saw the list because some of them are quite

boring but one or two of them are quite interesting. One I think you'll be particularly interested in, Pete, and I think this is actually quite a safe bet, is deepfake videos will be weaponised in 2019. I think we're too familiar with them and the sort of people who would accuse a video of being fake are too stupid to understand how the technology works for it to actually take hold. Explain to understand how the technology works for it to actually take explain to people who don't know what it is what deep faking is um it's a very

cpu computer intensive process of creating a fake video where you combine the bodies of one person and the face of another um and create a video so, they used the director of Get Out Peel? Is it Peel? Okay, I always forget. I think it's Peel. And he basically did an impression of Barack Obama and put that performance over the face of Barack Obama doing a speech. And it was almost

spotless. It looked amazing. You can do it on your phone now. Absolutely flawless. And it was an incredible piece of work. And it was a cautionary tale, just sort of saying, look guys, what you see might not necessarily be what happened. Well,

that is a fairly serious point, right? So Nesta, our friends at Nesta are saying the deep fakes perhaps could spark a real geopolitical incident. Well, look at the way that the punch-up at the White House happened with the guy from, I think it was CNN. Yeah, Jim Acosta, yeah. Where one of the right-wing nutjobs kind of removed a couple of frames

from the actual video. This is someone taking a microphone back from a reporter and the perceived violence or whatever. Yeah, so he removed a couple of frames to make the actual action look a little bit more violent, and that kind of was tossed about. And it was a clear fake. Every single person, not even...

You could clearly see it was a different performance from what actually came out of the TV screens, and it was really hackily done. But even though you had 10 experts saying it's fake, there's still the message that was kind of kicked around. Is this video fake? They want to teach the controversy, basically. Yeah, because the controversy creates clicks.

And media at the moment is kind of obsessed with clicks for obvious reason. And so newspapers and media conglomerates were basically saying, is this fake? is this not fake to fuel the debate rather than actually saying it isn't real, it's a fabrication so bullshit will sell which is their responsibility by the way

if it bleeds it leads and that bled for flipping ages I think also to extrapolate that further it's interesting because... It wasn't me on that webcam. No, because people of our age, certainly people of our age and older, and possibly some people younger than us,

maybe even everyone implicitly believes and understands that seeing is believing, right? So if you see something in front of you, people who are digital natives who've grown up watching things on TV screens, whether it be a TV show or a news bulletin or whatever, or a video of their mates, there is still an understanding that if it's filmed and it's there,

it happened, right? Seeing is believing. This is dangerous because it takes us into potentially a whole new sphere where nothing you see, unless you see it with your own eyes, which of course, if you live in the UK and you want to know about American politics, for example, it's not possible for you to see it with your own eyes, which of course, if you live in the UK and you want to know about American politics, for example,

it's not possible for you to see it with your own eyes. So it could completely undermine the fabric of our society because all it takes is for a decent number of people to not know that it's not real, and then you're away. And that's when these geopolitical incidents happen. Scary stuff, I think. But also, I think, in the last probably three or four years with the invention

of social media you've kind of taken control of your own gossip to a certain extent um back in the day if somebody sort of said oh pete's got a good job and he's gone to you know do do some work in yeah exactly gone to do some work in geneva um that would all be kind of like rumor and hearsay and it would go around the town or the village and people sort of go oh wow yeah yeah yeah yeah right um but instagram like you're taking pictures of yourself poolside going look at this guys don't mind if i do drinking a cocktail and all that shit and and you've taken control of your own gossip there and presented your own um kind of image to a world and something that you never had control of before you now have control of yeah and with that um means responsibility as well. Absolutely.

Absolutely right. Another one of their predictions is, and I quite like this one, and I think I can believe this one as well, it's the end of the week as we know it. The five-day, 40-hour work week has stretched to breaking point and 2019 will be the year that it finally snaps. Yeah.

The annoying thing is that on the rare occasion that I have to do the commute, I have to come in at like nine o'clock, which obviously is very late for a lot of you, but I work until two. But you get on the tube at like half eight, quarter to nine. It is disgusting in London or in many metropolitan areas, many cities.

It's horrible. It's horrible to use. Most trains can't run because of the antiquated, underfunded nature of the infrastructure in this country and beyond. The idea of a nine to five just doesn't exist anymore. It shouldn't exist because you can't have it both ways. You can't have us resident in an office from nine to five and also expect us to work outside of hours as well.

Listen, you cannot hold Pete the Renegade Donaldson down, by the way. Good luck getting that man chained to a desk. He's like the wind, baby. I don't even have a desk. Pete lives on a grand piano. Set fire to it. He lives under a leaf. Boring.

Yeah, he lives on the wind. I mean, to be fair, I think I've said before, I bought a... I'm still having problems with my desk at home. He uses his oven as a cupboard, guys. I bought a gaming chair that's too wide for my desk, so I need another desk. People are slogging themselves out there, Pete Donaldson.

I'm the old woman who swallowed a fly the working week is stretched to breaking point and you're out there buying gaming chairs too big for the room I've got to worry about my posture

you're out of touch I'm getting on mate you're out of touch I also think you're out of mind the other thing about that you tapped on the infrastructure thing there

before this gets too boring something aspect of society I feel a little bit it makes a shame to interestingness. You never know. Yeah, true.

It's always a danger. We've always promised that, but never quite delivered it. But if you're someone who works as part of the gig economy, or works in the service industry, say you do a really important job, for example,

like... Delivering livers. Let's say you work at the tube station. We're in London, so you work on the tube station in London. Deliver liveroo. Yeah, okay. Why don't they call us emergency ambulance guys? Fuck So you work on the tube station in London. Deliver liveroo. Yeah. Okay.

Why don't they call us emergency ambulance guys? Fuck it. I'm going to go with this. Deliver liveroo. You deliver organs. I know someone who used to do that job, by the way. Deliver organs for the NHS. So you're there all hours, right?

I mean, they probably schedule these transplant operations during the day. But anyway, for the sake of argument. You'd hope so. You finish at three in the morning. Or like you do, two in the morning. I don't worry about you. Because one, you've chosen your lifestyle. And you can live in that bed as far as I'm concerned. Because you made it. Secondly, at three in the morning, or like you do, two in the morning. I don't worry about you, because one, you've chosen your lifestyle, and you can live in that bed as far as I'm concerned,

because you made it. Secondly, you live in Soho, right? So it's easier for you to get shit. If you live outside of that area, and you're delivering shit till two in the morning, one, you can't really effectively get home from work, because you can't. Two, you can't buy anything to eat, really.

I mean, there's probably, there's the occasional 24-hour supermarket, but there's not many of them, and they're not great quality. So all this idea that people are now, as these guys say, living outside of this working week traditional thing where it's finally going to snap. If it does snap, people are going to have to start turning London into what it claims to be, which it absolutely isn't,

which is a 24-hour city. You can't just eat kebabs all the time, or pot noodles. You are a living testament to that, Pete, aren't you? Yeah. My toenails keep falling off. Your Sunday night Chinese tradition will not go lost, though, will it? I didn't order from Deliveroo. I ordered from the other company.

Shit. Oh, right. But I have got a liver to eat. Yeah, I mean, did you see that video of that Indian, I presume it's some kind of meal delivery service, like Deliveroo? video of that um indian um i presume it's some kind of like meal delivery service um like deliveroo um the guy was kind of um he was filmed from a window um getting the food that he was delivering eating a couple of mouthfuls out of each each thing and then putting it back and everyone's

excellent and obviously he was fired and everyone's disgusted but it speaks to a wider it speaks to a um a wider problem obviously dipping? If he wasn't double dipping, it's not as bad. It speaks to a wider problem, obviously, of poverty, him not getting paid enough, him not having the time to feed himself, or the money to the films. Or he could have just been a shit. I ordered 70 quids worth of Chinese food once from Deliveroo, and the guys disappeared with it.

Really? Probably his last day on the job, he went, fuck it. But you're right, the gig economy, if you do it in America, these are freelance individuals who sort of go around delivering shit and there's so much more of that about. Silicon Valley has created this kind of microculture of the gig economy and all that shit.

I haven't got the tech pods. They're your brothers. I am. I am having a go at them. Tech pros. Because they're all twats. And they all, that's another resolution.

Don't use female Jenny Salieri's insults. Dicks only, because that's what I've got. And anyone says resolution don't use female Jenny Salinas insults dicks only because that's what I've got and anyone says I don't have a dick is that your resolution for this year

I did it last year and I stopped for a while but the C word is so juicy it just is it's something that it's important because I call myself

a feminist and then I go and use words like that it's like me with the old meat eating and all that kind of stuff but these people in America who do who indulge and then I go and use words like that. It's like me with the old meat-eating and all that kind of stuff. All that stuff, yeah. But these people in America who indulge, who work,

who make all of their money from the gig economy because it's apparently so flexible and so useful for people who have weird hours and have weird responsibilities, they don't have health insurance. They don't have any protection. There needs to be a tacit endorsement of that lifestyle from the government down. I don't disagree with that. Big talk with Pete and Luke.

I'm not going to undermine it, but I am going to tell a story that you reminded me of. My friend Duncan, he used to live in a place where it's very difficult to get takeaways delivered. They just couldn't find this place. It was like a road where it was separated into two parts. Yeah, that's annoying. My mum and dad live at 72 Woodstock

I've just told them where they live oh no Stewie Donaldson I might have to should I put an edit point I mean I am intrinsically lazy but I mean

don't go there after 7pm because Stewie will be in bed Woodstock where Woodstock place is that a difficult place to find as well well it's separated by a small road

right okay so this is a similar situation as far as I understand it. Anyway, my friend Duncan, I just mentioned there, he ordered a takeaway once and it just didn't turn up. Right.

And so he called up and said, look, what's happening? Oh, yeah, they're having trouble finding it or whatever. And he said, and the Indian, I think it was an Indian restaurant. It could have been Chinese. I can't remember. He said, the guy's there,

said, stay on the line because you're going to have to help the guy find it. And so Duncan obviously is out on his mobile phone, goes out into the front of the house and says, look, I'm standing outside the house. You should be able to see it.

And he's like in his slippers and stuff, right? And it turns into this really weird, like really boring, like horror movie type situation where he's like, stay on the line. He's coming down in a minute. And he said, at really boring, like horror movie type situation where he's like, stay on the line. He's coming down in a minute. And he said at one point,

the guy was driving up and down a road, not his road, with the hazard lights on, saying, flag me down when you see me. Flag me down when you see me. And all these people are going up to his car, because he's got his hazard lights on. And he's going, are you a dog? No. He said at the end, he ended up just saying,

look, mate, I'm terribly sorry, but forget about it. Just forget about it. I think you'd already paid and everything. Just forget about it. This is a waste of my night. Yeah.

So those people are the people that need help. I mean, you should have a sat-nav. Sat-navs need to get better, don't they? Is that your comedy routine for 2019?

Yeah. Oh, turn left, you'll end up in a river. Nightmare. You don't even drive. Why were the kids in the car, Pete, though? I don't know. Stop this.

I'm trying to go dark. Before we go to a break, Pete. It's my kind of gag style. Are you turning heel in 2019? Evil Pete. I was never good, Pete. By the way, I really enjoyed that video you shared of Vince McMahon tearing both his quadriceps. He runs in because there's been a big fuck-up and he needs to relay a piece of information to the wrestlers. So set the premise up because basically...

I think it's Royal Rumble. Batista's done something wrong. Batista's done something wrong. Batista and John Cena are having a big fight in Royal Rumble whateverista's done something wrong Batista's done something wrong Batista and John Cena are having a big fight in Royal Rumble whatever 2002 or whatever and obviously

the last person remaining in the ring wins the whole thing and so and that sets up storylines that will go off in the future for the next six months

basically it's all about Batista winning and chucking John Cena out the problem is John Cena gets chucked out Batista goes with him and they hit the mat almost at exactly the same

time if not the exact same time. Like proper photo finish stuff. So neither of them know what to do. Neither of them know what to do. They both get back in the ring and start grappling and obviously the referee doesn't know what to do because obviously whatever happens whichever way it goes bearing in mind they've got video replays

and also the referee can't make a decision of the next six months for the company. So Vince McMahon, the CEO, and obviously public face and obviously wrestler himself, comes doing his kind of like, I've shat myself kind of stomping walk into the ring

and launches himself in. But at the same time, he stands up and tears both of his quadriceps. To see it. His legs just fold under just fall it is unbelievable to watch yeah it is unbelievable and he's just on his knees yeah and he's sort of lean and he's sort of lean and so he conducts the rest he sort of sits there with his hands on his hands on his waist hands on his side going oh i'm really annoyed and bearing in mind like patricia's

fuck this like he's in trouble with his on-screen boss and his ceo is genuinely so he's just thinking just stand up why are you just stand up just stand up so like nobody knows what's happened nobody knows why the boss has decided to run in and just sit on the floor and tell everyone off and make a decision and he looks so he's so. Because he sat there just telling people what to do and looking furious. And let's face it,

in complete fucking agony as well. Oh, it must be so painful. So painful. As far as I understand it, your quadriceps are like your biggest muscles, aren't they? So you must be... Behind your bum, surely.

Maybe, that's the part. That's up there. But I mean, they're big important muscles, aren't they? Yeah. It's incredible. Let's have a quick break. Skin's your muscle, you know.

When we come back, I'm going to put a challenge to the listeners. I didn't put a spell on you. Look for a time. Okay, welcome back to the Luke and Pete show with me, Luke Moore, and that man there, the Pete. See, you've got an ordered mind. You should lead more. Okay, I'm happy to do that in 2019. That can be a resolution of us. I don't think our listeners will like that, but we'll give it a bash. And I'll got an ordered mind. You should lead more. Okay, I'm happy to do that in 2019. That can be a resolution.

I don't think our listeners will like that, but we'll give it a bash. And I'll stop saying C word. I won't. So what I thought I'd do, and I haven't briefed you on this ahead of time, Pete, on purpose, because if I did,

you might try and talk me out of it. I thought... Is this going to be a Bud Dwyer moment? What's that? He shot himself in front of assembled journalists. No, it's not going to be that. It was quite a famous in- internet clip back in the day. He handed out his suicide note like it was a statement.

He was a man of advancing years. He was going to go away for some crime for a long time. He probably would never see the light of day again, and he decided, no going to happen. Check it out. So in a press conference, he handed out these things, and then as the cameraman and the journalist started reading them, he realised it was a suicide note.

And from a brown paper bag, he takes a revolver, and he shoots himself in the face. So he's already been found guilty of a crime, and he's waiting to go to prison, but he's able to walk around with a gun and a paper bag. Hey, this is America Baby, and I think Filter, the band Filter, wrote a song about it called Hey Man, Nice Shot. Those guys. It's like Slobodan Priyek, or whatever his name was. baby and I think Filter the band Filter wrote a song about it called Hey Man Nice Shot those guys new metal

Slobodan Priyek or whatever his name was oh yeah well he just got shot didn't he he committed suicide with that poison

in the court didn't he oh yes I will drink this yeah so that's not how I planned to start this section

but that's how this show goes sometimes what I was going to say Pete is I would like to put it over to the listeners

to you guys listening at home or wherever you are. What would you like to see or hear us do or talk about in 2019? Get your emails into helloatlukeandpetecher.com. Maybe you'd like to hear us go somewhere, do something, eat something, play a game, anything. You name it and we'll consider it. You know this is going to end up with an amputation or something.

Well, as long as it's of you and I'm not involved, that's okay. Let's get hair transplants. I don't need it, do I? That's one thing I don't need. I could do with liposuction. I'll get tits put in like gold dust. Hello at LukeandPeter.com for that. Now, yeah, anything you can think of, just fire it over.

Should we do a couple of emails? I've got an email here that I think you might find interesting, Peter. Yes. What time was that? I didn't write it down. There we go. Sorry. This is from Adam in Glasgow.

He's got universal electronics in his TV remote, which is solid. Very solid. If I'm a spectacular. You wee. I haven't seen a new brand of batteries for ages now.

What do you mean? Like, yeah, we haven't heard. No, because people, they've just been repetitive. Well, this is kind of our thing for the start of the year wasn't it so let's start

2019 with a new one what else could we do though you ever think about it I'll redeem it Adam says hello chaps after hearing the story

of leaving children with strangers in a recent episode it reminded me of a story from my early youth do you remember the guy who busted his teeth open on the half pipe

and the anorak guy Lucky Pete rescued him oh yeah abducted briefly and rescued him by half pipe and the anorak guy Lucky Pete rescued him? Abducted briefly and rescued him. By a man in an anorak called Lucky Pete. He says, I was a matter of days old and no doubt being enough of a shit to drive my mum up the wall. My two year old sister and me were left with my dad

who was told to get us out of the house and as any self-respecting new father would, we headed to the closest McDonald's. Get the fuck out! In the early 90s, it was in a rather rough part of Glasgow called Maryhill. When my sister demanded to go to the bathroom, no doubt with the best of intentions, my father decided to leave me,

still in pram, with the occupants at the closest table, and head to the bathroom. When I returned to the house, my dad made the schoolboy error of instantly telling my mum. Another story is often dragged up at family events, and after a few too many drinks to remind him of his incompetence. Still to this day there's rumours of an Adam baby

switch scandal. Oh, beautiful. Like some kind of beetle, you might say. Yeah, like you mean Paul McCartney's business? Yeah. I was thinking John Lennon. Like some kind of beetle. Like some kind of bloody beetle.

Who do you show with? Oh, mate Pete, what's he like? He can't remember how Jesus died, and he can't name a single member of the Beatles. So, man, can I get an Adrian Graff's email? Sure. Because this man is one of my favourite chaps on the internet. I don't know who he is.

No. With respect. Not Adrian Graffff that's fine that you're all right to not know him right okay um you will have seen this guy but um he's the democracy manifest man right he is a man who gets arrested um basically i'll go into adrian's uh email um hi guys love the show recently you spoke about the democracy manifest guy youtube video something that always amuses me way more than it should. And so I revisited it and decided to research

the reason why he was arrested. I was not disappointed. He wants to bring the ramble or bring the Luke Peet show to Australia. We'll think about it. So the Democracy Manifest is a man being arrested in a Chinese restaurant.

Peter. Have we done it? Yeah, I know, but it's an explanation about him. Oh, okay, cool. This is the reminder. Yeah. I love this. Gentlemen, this is Democracy Manifest.

Have a look at the headlock here. See that guy over there? Get your hand off my penis! This is the bloke who got me on the penis before. Why did you do this to me? For what reason? What is the charge? Eating a meal?

A succulent Chinese meal? Oh, that's a nice headlock, sir. Oh, ah, yes. I see that you know your judo well. I see that you know your judo well. We covered this a number of episodes ago, right? And we just thought it was really funny. Yeah, the Democracy Manifest

guy in Australia getting arrested. It just sounds like the Australian Brian Blessard, doesn't he? But according to this website, he's not Australian. He was born in Hungary, and the entire backstory of his life and why he was arrested is completely off the wall. It turns out that he was apparently a nobleman called Charles Dolza who was on pension for free food. He was so into it that he got named in the papers

as Sydney's most famous restaurant runner as he had so many convictions for failing to pay for food. This makes the succulent Chinese meal line even funnier than it already is. According to local Australian papers, he used to just go to around five-star restaurants, eat a delicious Chinese meal, and then do a runner.

A succulent Chinese meal. A succulent Chinese meal. All of his fines and court orders built up quite a bit, although we're not sure whether he actually did any time for it or not. In addition to all of this, apparently he was a former chess champion.

Wow. I was not expecting that. So there we go. He quite clearly enjoyed a life of free food and great chess matches. He just loved to get in there, get his food and do a runner. That is a nice headlock, sir.

I can see you know your judo well. Peter, did you ever do a runner from a taxi when you were a kid? Once. It was successful. And I'll kid? Once. It was successful. And I'll do it again. It was successful, was it? It was successful, yeah.

Ran across... I don't know why people do it, because it's just a load of... Because you only ever do it... You would only ever do it when you're drunk. And it's not a nice thing to do to the taxi driver. It's awful, yeah. It's really mean, isn't it? Yeah.

And bearing in mind, there was like five of us in the taxi. And I'd like to point out that the reason why I did the runner was because everyone had started, and you can't... You've got no choice, yeah. And I either get the beach shitted out of me, or the shit beaten out of me by the taxi driver, or I leave with them. So I left with them. I made the choice.

I think my so-called friends at the time... Bras before taxors. I think my so-called friends at the time consistently did it with me because I knew I was the slowest oh right so you'd always

get caught yeah and you'd have to pay yeah ask me if that ever happened did that ever

happen yeah so how many times oh not that many a couple it's terrible

it's terrible behaviour it's something I'll do now but you don't think about it you sort of go it's not even

about having to pay the couple of quid for the taxi. It's just the excitement of going, hee hee. It's a way to top off the end of the night. Let's end the show with emails we should have read out at Christmas.

Okay. Here's one from Connor in Manchester who says, hi guys, I have to catch up with your entire back catalogue over the last four weeks. I wouldn't be wishing out on anyone. And following your talk in episode 125 about the Clevelandveland indians i was reminded of a lovely christmas tradition

practiced almost every year by fans of the major league sports teams of philadelphia namely throwing batteries at santa to the best of my knowledge it started some time ago in the 60s by fans of the nfl's eagles who were unhappy with a notably unenthusiastic santa tasked with performing in front of the fans at half time during a game in the festive period. It started with snowballs

but they were substituted for batteries in later years when snow and Santa went around and bad players remained. So they've taken this idea of throwing snowballs

at Santa extrapolated it out to throwing batteries at players who aren't very good. I suppose they've got helmets on. The moment became

part of Philly sports legend and many times this scenario repeated for Philly's games in Major League Baseball and Flyers games in the NHL. The event was commemorated by the Eagles inviting back the original Santa from that rainy day to apologise. Sadly, once again, Eagles fans just pelted batteries

at him again. This event coincided with Flyers fans pelting poorly performing players with bracelets handed out to fans to commemorate the recent passing of Philadelphia Flyers founder, Ed Snyder. That's not nice. So much for the city of brotherly love.

All the best, Connor. I mean, that is pretty full on. I feel like... Batteries. I mean, you'd put them in socks in prison and beat the shit out of them. Yeah. I visit the US quite a bit, as you well know. And I think that one thing, even if people of a certain age in the US don't know anything about football, or as they call know, and I think that one thing, if even if, um, even if people have a certain age in the U S don't know anything about

football or as we call it, you know, as they call it soccer, they do know that in, for some reason they feel like they know that football fans are really badly behaved. Yeah. And I,

and I feel like I've been, I've been led a lie because every time we do an email about stuff like this, more stuff comes out, burn it, setting bombs off at thatco Demolition Night. You know, throwing batteries at Santa. You know,

Tencent Beer Night riots. This stuff happens there as well. Baseball is so boring as well. They have a go... American TV shows have a go at how boring soccer is, but baseball, man,

it is turgid. Yeah, I don't know if... I don't know if I know enough about it because I've never been to see it. Right. Because, I mean,

you would say that about cricket, right? No. Test cricket. Cricket is, yeah, no,

I've been to a bit of cricket. I find the people watching cricket more annoying than the actual people doing the cricket. It's actually quite a nice deal.

The 2020s type people. It's been, it's been co-opted by people our age just getting pissed and dressing up. Darts has, cricket has. Look at me, everyone. Yeah, exactly. That's the thing-opted by people our age who's getting pissed and dressing up. Football has, darts has, cricket has. Look at me, everyone.

Yeah, exactly. That's the thing, we talked about this before during the World Cup, I think, when it's fine to get so enthusiastic about a goal being scored that you lose your pint, but to purposely plan to throw your pint in the air is a joke. The reason I'm saying this is because

I don't know enough about baseball and I'm quite interested to see what it's like because I've never been. And I know that people say cricket's boring and I quite like cricket so I might like it. I think cricket might be more interesting to Americans

because you sometimes see batters who are about to go up to bat and they'll sort of they'll take a swing of the baseball but they're so skilled at it they'll throw it in the air

and it'll kind of float and do a couple of spins and then it'll catch it again. Right. It's the coolest thing you could ever do with anything stick-shaped. What's your point?

I'm just saying that the cricketers could do that with their cricket bats. They don't, do they? No, I'm saying that, you know, they might get a bit more interested if they could do some tricks with their bats. Do something a bit fancy as they're coming up to the seam. Like the Adidas Predator cricket bat.

My brother-in-law likes cricket and he plays cricket quite a lot. And I was thinking, maybe I could get him a cricket bat. but if you're a cricketer do you bring your own bat? How does that work? Yeah. Do you?

Yeah. If you're a part of a cricket club you bring your own cricket bat. You've got your own stuff, yeah. Right. Yeah. You've not seen them on the tube with their big bags.

Yeah, but maybe I should just get my big bag then. What do you think? There's a load of bats at a cricket club. You should choose one. Of course you take your own bat

yeah but I just thought if you've got a cricket club it's like they can cost hundreds of pounds though people like different types of bats for different things

don't they some people like a heavy bat some people like a lighter one what if I mean what if yeah but if everybody brought their own bat

it would be an administrative nightmare wouldn't it if you come to bat with your own bat it'd be crazy we've started off as we mean to go on 2019

talking about cricket bats with the added jeopardy that neither of us know what we're talking about no let's wrap it up here though because that's that that's the start of

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