The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 133: Foaming hell

Episode Date: January 14, 2019

This time around on *your* Luke and Pete Show, Pete's been interviewing Steve Coogan about his new movie Stan and Ollie, and we quickly move things on to Quentin Tarantino, and then, separately, some breaking news about the 1900 Great Plague of Glasgow. You know us, ear to the ground.We also hear from a listener that embarked upon work experience at Loaded magazine with hilarious consequences and how, in one of the only occasions Pete did a full day's honest work, he covered someone in foam. To send us your work experiences, favourite films, or to suggest something for us to do, it's: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Luke and Pete show. I am the Pete bit of a Luke and Pete show. I'm fairly certain I walk up like that and Luke is joining me for a bit of Luke and Pete show fun. Just for the process of elimination, would dictate that I am the Luke half. We usually sort of play the music while we're in the studio, but we're not today because of certain administrative reasons. I'm just opening a very full cup of tea, I'm sorry. Is it on a hinge? I've also just realised I didn't offer to buy you a coffee, which is very rude of me. That's alright, that's alright. Do you want one?

No, I'm good. We got sent some Mr Lee's noodles and they've been sat in a box and I'm the only one who's eaten them and I eat a little bit like a bird who really likes beer and candy like a pelican

and so they're not going down very quickly so apologies please carry on I was just opening a cup of tea but that doesn't mean I'm not listening to you opening a can of whoop-ass on me

yeah how's your day been alright? it's been good I just interviewed Steve Coogan about the film Stan and Ollie have you? Please carry on. I was just opening a cup of tea, but that doesn't mean I'm not listening to you. Opening a can of whoop-ass on me. Yeah. Yeah, how's your day been? All right? I just interviewed Steve Coogan about the film Stan and Ollie. Have you? Excellent. Okay, so I've seen the trailer for Stan and Ollie. For those who haven't seen it,

it's a film about the great Laurel and Hardy, of course. Yeah. You know, did they pave the way for you and I? That's what, I'm just saying what people are probably thinking. Well, the thing is, it's kind of like, it's not a film about Lauren Hardy. It's a film about Stan and Ollie. The Lauren Hardy shorthand for them when they're on set

or when they're doing stuff as the characters. Stan and Ollie, it's very much about them. And it's kind of set up on the trailers as being like a heartwarming, almost quite funny film. And it's almost, I'm so sad when I watched watched it it was an hour and a half in and out so i quite like that aspect of it quite poignant um it's incredibly poignant and it it was one of the few films this year that i've watched that have made me really think about my own mortality yeah that happens a lot as you get more as you get older maybe we'll talk about that in a minute

the um the trailers i've seen i can't remember if i mentioned on a previous show that um i've become a member of my local cinema and I went to go see The Favourite with Olivia Colman which I thought was very good and one of the trailers was Stan and Laurel and it looked brilliant I don't know how John C. Reilly can be in that and in that horrendous Sherlock Holmes

business in the same year but there we go, it's funny, actors are funny like that but it looks really good, so would you recommend it? I would recommend it because as I said I like that but it looks really good so would you recommend it I would recommend it because as I said I like short films I think you can tell a story now and get out

you can't recommend it on that basis it's really short so it won't take up too much of your time that's like the most backhanded compliment I came in five minutes

in as well I missed the first five minutes no it's good it's John C. Vright what was the date like it was great he didn't do any talking

that's not a good thing it's not a good thing that it's good. It's John C. Reilly. What was the date like? It was great. He didn't do any talking. That's not a good thing. It's not a good thing that he's short. Two pumps and done. John C. Reilly's fat suit. Have they ever got a fat suit right? Have they ever got a fat suit that actually looks like genuine flesh? It's so hard to do. I don't think that one's too bad.

I mean, it reminded me a bit of a... Through the film, it looks like something out of The Muppets. It reminded me a bit of Fat Bastard in Austin Powers. Yeah. No, his is very shy. This guy's... It looks... It's just...

I just don't think I've ever seen a convincing one. Just the way they move. And fat people, they don't bulge that big. He was big when... He was that size when... He actually died at like Nine Stone. Right, because of an illness. Yeah. Oliver Hardy.

But they don't sort of bulge quite so much. They more hang. I don't need you to tell me about fat people. Let me tell you a little bit about fat people. Look, like that you mean? No, it's just a chin, mate. Well, if you do that, everyone's got that. If you do that, yeah.

But I just always sort of think, because they gave him fat hands as well, and it looked almost cartoonish when he was sort of stroking his tiny wife. They both had tiny wives. One of them was a Russian actor, I think. But the film's worth watching. But the film's worth watching.

And what was it like? I certainly am one of these people. I imagine people will want to know what it's like to interview Steve Cooke. Have you interviewed him before? Yeah, for Alpha Papa, which was 2013, such a long time ago. I thought you interviewed Iannucci for that.

Oh, I did, didn't I? Yeah. So what did I interview him for? Something else. The interview you did with Amanda Iannucci, and it's going to sound a bit self-aggrandizing because we're on the show together, but I genuinely thought that was a fantastic interview

and I found it really interesting. I think it's because most interviews you get are like five minutes in and out. If you get half an hour, you can really get... Which is what the film is like five minutes in and out. If you get half an hour, you can really get... Which is what the film is, apparently. In and out. I think the...

I had about 15 minutes with him this morning. And I think the problem with... I think Coogan's quite... And naturally, obviously, a very funny man, but I think he's quite relaxed at not being on all the time. You know what I mean? He's happy to do an interview about his craft. He's happy to do an interview about how hard it is

to create a character and to write comedy. But he doesn't feel the need to be on all the time and to be sort of making jokes and stuff like that. And he sort of said that in the interview. He sort of said, I've got to a point where someone like Robin Williams is just on all the time and you just create a cage for yourself where you just, you can't escape.

And Johnny Vegas talks very articulately about that on his Desert Island Discs about how he started to not be able to appreciate where he ended

and where Johnny Vegas started and it was very difficult for him and I think the whole film is all about Stan Laurel

never shutting off just being so driven and so laser focused that he creates a kind of what are you pointing focused that he creates a kind of... What are you pointing at yourself for? He creates a cage so he can't enjoy the trappings, he can't enjoy the life he's built for himself

because he's just always working. On the other hand, his comedy partner is like a womanising drinker who likes to play golf. Yeah. Tell you what. I mean, I tell you what. Will the similarities never end? Maybe in a hundred years time

at least there'll be more first hand accounts that people can draw from to do pastiches and characters of ourselves what's the Luke and Peach you're like right

Lauren Hardy strip away the talent all of it strip away all the talent and the writing and the comic timing we don't write any of it so

and you've sort of got two quite emasculated pathetic failures yeah one of which is a bit one of which is a bit overweight. The other one's, you know... Me.

Emaciated as well as emasculated. I'm both muscular and emaciated and chunky. And you eat like a bird. In different places. So it's worth seeing anyway. And so you weren't nervous... I'm a theme park of a body. Me.

A wonderland. Steve Coogan, you weren't nervous about interviewing him given that he's got history of being quite difficult in the past. I think the interviews in which he's been found wanting from the outside world, people sort of go, no, he was a dick there. It's just people coming in and going, do a partridge. Let's talk about partridge.

It's like, yeah. Well, I saw him at Victoria Station once, the closest I've ever got to him. And he was, do a partridge. Let's talk about partridge. And it's like, yeah. Well, I saw him at Victoria Station once, the closest I've ever got to him. And he was, from a distance, he looked like he was being very patient, very pleasant to a number of people who were talking to him. I had no idea why he was in Victoria Station,

because that is a minefield for someone of his level of fame. But he was, he seemed like he was being very accommodating and very pleasant. So I'm sure he's a lovely chap, but I just know he's got a bit of a reputation of saying to people who are interviewing him stop that yeah not not in a tarantino explosive psychopathic kind of way but like in a sort of awkward kind of i heard that that with um who's the fellow who was he exploded on so to speak and channel 4 news is it christian guru murphy tarantino yeah yes it was yeah yeah apparently like tarantino was well into that and like

afterwards he was like oh yeah brilliant yeah like it was all it was. Apparently Tarantino was well into that. And afterwards he was like, yeah, brilliant. He was all a bit of a... Part of the character. Yeah, a bit of a joker. If I had one criticism of Tarantino, it would be that... And this is not a huge revelation. I'm sure many people have thought this before.

His comments on Harvey Weinstein? I haven't actually seen those. But we'll probably do that another time. It's just the fact that he insists on acting and everything. Because he just pulls you out of the whole thing. Because he's just not at the same level. If you watch him in From Dusk Till Dawn, particularly, which I think is a good movie,

he's surrounded by good actors. Heavyweights, yeah. Keitel, Lewis, Clooney's got chops. And he just brings you out of it a bit too much. And it's the same in... Is it the same in... Hateful Eight, maybe, as well? Does he appear in that?

I believe so. I think I'm thinking of Hateful Eight. But, yeah, so that would be my criticism. I don't mind him in his films. I think he's all right. I think the first time I ever saw him was at a film where he was at a party in a film and he's just one of those geeks that hangs out at a party. I don't think he even wrote one of those guys, a geek that hangs out at a party.

I don't think he even wrote the script, but he basically does this big monologue about how Top Gun was a gay, like a homoerotic... Sure, I've heard that before, yeah, yeah. You can write my tail art stuff, and it was the first time... You could be my wingman any time.

Yeah, it was the first time I'd actually heard that being spoken of, and I was like, that's really good dialogue, that's really great, but it is just him doing a bit on Top Gun being a bit gay right

yeah that's how much of our life is nowadays yeah and what were you going to say about your own mortality um I think I've got 20 good years in me

right good years depressing isn't it good years good eating good eating years before before it all

goes to shit and I go and I leave this earth I'm just thinking about I don't think he is in hateful. I think he's in something else I'm thinking of. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't really matter. Don't email him about that. People will email. I made a point on WrestleMedia, the wrestling podcast, that Mean Gene Auckland, who died this week, very sadly,

he was not featured on the main page of the BBC website. He was. I saw him. I'm sure I did. Well, he was until the bloke from Arrested Development

and Kirby Enthusiasm died. Marty Funkhouser. Bob Einstein. Bob Einstein. And then he replaced him. And I didn't really sort of explain that very well. Like I usually do. Is your death section big enough for one person? Well, I just thought, if you're going to keep

someone on the main page, Mean Gene Auckland has had more effect and has had a longer career than Bob Einstein. He's an actor, as Mark said on the podcast. He's an actor among actors. But Mean Gene kind of was in wrestling at a time when it's never been bigger and it never will be as big again. And so it's kind of like, I just thought he was, the respect that wrestling gets.

And as I said, I wouldn't have given a shit this time last day because I've never watched any wrestling, but now I've watched loads. I'm like, why isn't Ming-Jin on the main page of the BBC website

for crying out loud? It's always a tricky one though, isn't it? Because different people will mean different things. I mean, David Bowie's, I think the anniversary of David Bowie's death

is this week. Yeah, that's a front pager. Yeah, but it's the anniversary of his death, not his actual death. Yeah. But he means an awful lot to a lot of people, of course. It's not two years. Two years anniversary. Yeah, it might be.

Not main page then. Okay, yeah, but I'm saying he didn't actually die this week, as we all know. Right, yeah. It might have even been three years. I can't remember, but it's not the point. The point I was going to make is that different people's lives mean different things to different individuals. I almost guarantee it was five or four years. Because I remember listening to Blackstar on holiday with an ex-girlfriend.

Do you want me to check? This is going forever, isn't it? This is all this is. This is just me trying to remember stuff. This is like therapy. He died two years ago. Three years ago. Died three years ago.

10th of January 2016 he died. What? That's crazy. That's crazy stuff, Tom. Stop being crazy. So on the mortality thing, the reason I,

that flagged me. How was I listening to Black Star then? What do you mean? How was I listening to the album? You're a fucking time traveller. Yeah. I think I might be actually. You know that like, It's the only explanation

for the things that float around my head. Upwards of 40-ish percent of people's memories are false. You know that? There are other things that didn't happen or you don't remember things that did happen. I can't because I spoke about that girl about five years ago and we were on holiday five and a half years ago in Malaysia

and I remember listening to a new David Bowie track on a lounger next to a pool. Are you talking about... That wasn't five years. It was way longer than that. Yeah. All right. Yeah... That wasn't five years. It was way longer than that. Yeah. All right, yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.

But either way, it's incorrect, isn't it? Welcome to Dementia Hour. People are sitting on the train at the moment going, what is happening here? Luke. What is this?

Luke, I've got some news. Go on. Humans, not rats, were to blame for spreading the plague across Britain in 1900. Now, we've heard this rum blame for spreading the plague across Britain in 1900. Now, we've heard this rumour before. We've heard this situation before.

Scientists have finally established the cause of the third pandemic in Glasgow 120 years ago was not the rats. It was lice and fleas and humans. Stinky, stinky humans. And what you're saying is that... And kilt sharing and iron brew sharing. Rats are getting a bad... Bad rap.

A bad rap, yeah. Yeah, certainly not up to the level of Splinter's rap in Partners of the Chrome. He doesn't do a rap in that. He should do, though. Yeah, he should. He should have popped it. He should.

Okay, so that's interesting. Have you got any more information on that? That's it. Stop blaming rats for stuff, you dicks. Where would rats link... Where would they feature on your list of things you don't want to find

in your home? I think rats are quite manageable, but you kind of go, how did you get here? You're too big. Mice, wood lice, don't like wood lice. Oh, do you not?

No, they're one of the things that genuinely spook me out. They look like something from another world, but you don't see them as often anymore. No, you don't. Where have all

the wood lice gone long time ago where did they go birds have eaten them everyone did birds eat them don't know but you know um should do i i i am i discovered the lack of wood lice fairly recently discover the lack well i'll tell you what this is ring there's an absence of wood lice in here mother this chimes with me because my sister, who's five and a bit years younger than me. Right.

Are you sure it's five and a half now? Yeah. She used to call woodlice, ees? Ees. Not as an ecstasy touch, but like ees. She used to go,

ee, ee, because you couldn't say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was trying to explain to her daughter, who's my niece, who's now three, that, oh, woodlice,

you know, your mama used to call them E's, right? I realised where this was going. But anyway, and I couldn't find any. I just couldn't find them in the whole garden. I couldn't find a single one. You went round trying to find them. I was looking under rocks and everything.

All right, okay, yeah. In the end, I went under an old compost bag and I found a couple. That's a boring story, isn't it? I mean, that is... I think that is up there. Sorry, Pete. I think that is the worst story I've the couple. That's a boring story, isn't it? I mean, that is. I think that is up there. Sorry, Pete. I think that is the worst story I've ever told.

Shall we take an ad break? I can't think of anything more boring than that. So stick around for the ad break. We'll be back. It will have to get better. For more really underwhelming nature, watch next. It has to get better than that. It has to get better than that.

We're going to be reading some memos next, I fear. Welcome to my treehouse. Maybe you've seen one of these before. It's called a better than that. We're going to be reading some emails next, I fear. Welcome to my treehouse. Maybe you've seen one of these before. It's called a woodlouse. And we're back. Thank you very much for sticking with us after what can only be described as a dreadfully boring story. Luke Moore in a garden.

Just put a woodlouse in my cup of tea. Looking forward to it. They're everywhere, it turns out. Oh, wow. Listen, some of our... Of course, hello at luandPeteShow.com is the place to get in touch. We are at LukeandPeteShow

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and the Planeteers. It's not Marvel. Anyway, how do we get to start talking about that? Right, I've got the Hello at Luke and Pete show is the way to get in touch, as I've just mentioned.

And if you've seen a Woodlice. Yeah. Talk about, if you've got anything to do with Woodlice. I do actually really like Woodlice because you get two particular kinds. Right. You get the normal looking fellas. Normal looking fellas. That all scatter off, scuttle off.

And you get the tough looking ones that roll into a little ball. Remember those? They were the best ones man I mean they're I mean they're technically crustaceans but you sort of think like why aren't we eating these

for protein I don't think they are crustaceans I do I think they are crustaceans you get these really amazing ones called bugs in Australia that people cook up

and eat they are from the subphylum crustacea Pete good on you I just don't know why you would they are they are referred to as terrestrial isopods I was going to say isopods yeah but they are part of the crustacea, Pete. Good on you. I just don't know why you would... They are referred to as terrestrial isopods.

I was going to say isopods, yeah. But they are part of the crustacean family. I'm going to move on from wood lice, the gift that keeps giving. They like it wet. Enough of that. Actually, this is very similar to the email I was about to read out. Is that why you were looking under the rocks?

Yeah. I hear you like it wet. Dark and wet. Cold, dark and wet places. Wood ladies. This is from Lee. Hello, Lee. He says, morning, guys.

I just listened to episode 132. And of course, now we're making, I think, episode 133, aren't we? Yes. And he says, your discussion about lads magazines got me thinking about my own experience. This is good. He says, I did a journalism degree in the mid-2000s, and a work placement I arranged found me at the legendary Loaded magazine. Imagine my surprise on my first day.

So mid-2000s is way past the golden period of Loaded. Hugely. But they're still going on. They're still knocking about. It's probably before the internet properly kicked off, so they're still knocking out the old hard copies. Imagine my surprise on my first day after I'd done the inevitable tea run. I was asked to research their monthly feature, Porno Likes.

Oh! Do you remember Porno Likes? I do remember Porno Likes. Again. Tell the listeners what they are. Why does nobody... Basically, usually magazine-based pornographic actors or actresses who look like somebody famous. There was always

a lot of Catherine Zeta-Jones kicking around maybe some like Dirty Den stuff like that men of a certain age were really really good

because men in porn invariably don't look very good and they're invariably a little bit over the hill and they invariably look like someone out of

Crossroads Lee goes on to say what I had to do for the next three hours was trawl porn websites and find celebrity lookalikes. I managed to locate one for Barry from EastEnders and the iconic wrestler, a wrestler, Ric Flair. Wow, that's busy work, but really fun busy work. The magazine closed down not long after my placement,

and in a way, it did feel like the last days of Rome in there. Best wishes, Lee. Lee, I mean, feel free to get involved again with some more information. I've noticed that your email address does contain the year 2018, so you've set up an email address quite recently. Just for this, I imagine.

Where have you done work experience in the past, Pete? SCOM, the last computer shop in Hartlepool, town centre. What era are we talking about? What formats? Talk us about the formats. Well, OS 2 Warp had come out. I think Windows 95 had just launched.

So yeah, about 96, 97, I reckon. Why would they launch Windows 95 in 97? I don't know. Creep. What are you talking about? Windows 98 would have come out, probably. Yeah, but you don't know that. A, you don't know that yeah but you a you don't know that b it's artlipo all right so they get windows 95 and 1997 i just remember windows 95 had come out and they were selling um we're talking about like 386 486 pentium um kind of kind of arena pentium 2 on

the card wasn't out there yet but it was a pc PC shop. It was a PC shop. It didn't sell anything out there. It just sold. It was basically the first time that a big box kind of like tower PC seller was actually on the high street

for Hartlepool which you don't really see anymore anyway. That's the only place you've done work experience? Well, I worked at the zoo didn't I for a year. That was an experience.

That was a job, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, that's the only work experience I've done is that. I did a free day at Costa's once when I finished university.

I was like, I need some cash. I need some fast cash. I'll join Costa's. And I lasted, I did one day of work. And I'm fairly sad I didn't get paid for it because I covered a woman in form. Rubbish. Tell us more about that. I don't really know how to make coffee fancy frothy coffees

they didn't tell you how to do this they clearly did they would have done it they wouldn't let me with hot form you were not listening and the form went

all over the woman and I was like sorry oh dear I just sort of slinked off did it burn her or not no it didn't burn her she went

oh I did work in between years at uni at Chelsea TV nice and it never paid me never paid you no Never paid you? No.

I invoiced them and didn't get paid. Oh, I mean, you do like internships at like, I did XFM for quite a while. Of course, that's how you got a job there,

isn't it? I was doing that in the morning like from six until like half nine and then I'd leg it over to my actual job in Victoria for London government. I did work experience

at Domino in the period where they, where Arctic Monkeys first record came out. Nice. So I spent all my time shoving press releases

and CDs into envelopes over and over again because that album was massive, wasn't it? Yeah. It exploded. So that was basically

my overriding memory of that. It's your fault why our poster was just covered in CDs. Yeah, absolutely. Bad for the environment. But to be fair, I will have to say

the guy who runs Domino, Lawrence, he took me for a beer at the end of the week. So there you go, son. Thank you very much for that. Have a bit of that. That's nice.

Getting free labour there, but a beer's fine. Well, that's the music industry, I think. People just like a drink, don't they? Who else has been emailing in to hello at lukeandpeacher.com, Pete? I will tell you right now. Hello to Chris McLaughlin. Chris McLaughlin. Hey, Mona.

Oh, that's Craig McLaughlin, isn't it? Yes. His first bit is about a Hartlepool United shirt on eBay. I should bid for it, and I have bidded, so thank you for that. How much have you bidded? £30. I love that. It's at £26 at the moment.

I won't get it. It's seven days. It's seven days out. It's just a night. How high are you prepared to go for a booked 1980s Hartlepool United shirt? I've got £35. It's a nice bit of work, and it's a medium, which suits me. Go up to £100.

It's nothing to you. £ 100. It's nothing to you. 100? It's nothing to you. Are you mad? You're a man who's had a CCCP Soviet Union shirt tailored. Yeah.

Go up. Looks good though, doesn't it? Bid more than 30 otherwise you won't get it. Number two, on twins slash twin

dynamics. Oh yeah. I've been listening to a podcast about a possible murder. Oh, you've talked about this before, haven't you? Yeah, Teach's Pet. Yeah, Teach's Pet, mate.

Yeah, mate. Where everybody interviews a little bit more, they have a little bit more candor than anyone in American ones. It's been a bloody murder. It's been a bloody murder, mate. Rack off, I said. Yeah. And he swung the X towards me.

Right, that's now all the Australians turned off Kerry what were you going to say? bye Australians enjoy I was just going to say that a twin is in that and you sort of think yeah you forget how the twin dynamic one of my best friends is a twin actually both of them Adam and Gareth and they've always seemed quite normal but also when you think about

they've always lived really close to each other they've always lived together they've always been in each other's lives pretty much every lived really close to each other they've always lived together um they've always been in each other's lives pretty much every week they'll see each other um and they're twins that is quite strange and quite strange for siblings to it is into adult identical twins as well yeah but i think you've got people who are listening to this need to understand that you are a man who rejects everyone i think that's incorrect i've got i cast my net high and wide and if I just don't have time for you Luke you've just got to deal with it

the net has got massive holes in it the way it's made is anyone can slip through any one of the holes it's like the worst net ever it's not a Trump-esque wall you can come in or come out it's up to you come into my friendship zone, leave I'm going to chase you

if I turn up at your house tomorrow you'd let me in I'm going to chase you. I ain't going to chase you. If I turn up at your house tomorrow, you'd let me in? I'd have to, yeah. I'd have to! Lord Randall Town's up there pissed every few weeks. I've got to let him in. I've got a conversation about nothing. I just said, would you let me in? Your first instinctive response was, I'd have to. I'd have to, yeah. Yeah, you don't want to.

It would be rude otherwise, wouldn't it? What's the email saying? The email, also my house though is frequently a big old mess. On twins, the twin dynamic. My main experience of twins growing up was sister-sister, which I think was on Channel 4. I remember that, yeah. My overriding memory of this was being disgusted at how they would switch places with each other on dates,

taking advantage of poor, unsuspecting men. I don't know what the law was like for that over there, but for pointing to be someone else in a romantic situation could get you into trouble. Abhorrent behaviour, this, and shopping is all they seem to get up to. I think they give

twins a bad name. It wasn't worth emailing that. I like that. That is a ridiculous email. Like what? Complaining about a

show from the 90s as not being fair. Yeah. It's fiction. I've started watching The Office from the start, like The Office US, and even like,

so what would season five be or something? It's probably only about eight years ago or something. There are some things that my 2019 brain goes, oh, that's a bit strong. That's interesting because we've mentioned this before. Things have changed so much. We mentioned this with friends, right? People, I can't remember what we did.

We probably laughed about it, but some people were saying that friends these days is quite problematic. I think it might be you brought it to the it's quite interesting and that got me thinking this is further further fuel to that fire that um everything's moving on so fast and it's moving on so quickly and i think an element of that and it's not something i necessarily feel i don't feel like a fish out of water but i can certainly see how some people are worried and shocked about so one minute you can do something the next minute you can't one minute you can say something next

i'm not defending this idea and i don't mean people that you know the gaminy people yeah i don't mean that yeah but i can understand how if you're an older person and things change quickly anyway yeah that it's probably quite unsettling oh yeah yeah because you could get into a situation where you would be talking to someone, you don't know what you can and can't say, what you can or can't watch, what you can or can't like. It would pull the rug from under you a bit, I think. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's that bad, but I think it's, you've, I'm surprised how quickly language has changed in so many years.

But there seems to be. We're not talking about 1970 shows. You're talking about shows in 2010 or something. Yeah, exactly. But what I would say is that people like you or I... I'm saying, have you checked the Rambleback category? Deleted. People like me who try their very best

to stay on the right side of things and on top of things will slip up on times and will walk it back or will somehow have a think about things and sort of go, oh, yeah, probably not the best.

But then there's the edgelords who get off on being as offensive as they possibly can. And they're almost accepted more than the people, you know, the shock, the people who go on the internet

and shock more than the actual people who are just trying to do their best. Well, because people can, people can categorise them easily and go, that's what I do. Yeah, just sort of go, that's their thing.

They're racist, they're anti-Islamic, they're xenophobic, they're awful people, but that's their thing. So nothing they do can shock you. But if we make a slip, I always think, we're in big trouble. Because if you're not careful as a broadcaster, you can get into the situation where you're just terrified of everything.

You can't say anything. But if your brain's not, if your brain's, I think you're not careful as a broadcaster, you can get into the situation where you're just terrified of everything. You can't say anything. But if your brain's not, if your brain's, I think you're safer than most if your brain isn't just trying to suppress actual, you know, fascist tendencies. Oh, definitely. That's what I've said to you before. That's the first step, isn't it? The people who are in most trouble are people who you know for a fact

are absolute fascists in real life, you know, who actually write nut jobs. It's happened to me before. I've been in a pub and there's a friend of a friend there and they say, what job are you doing? I tell them. And they say, oh, it must be difficult because, you know, it's difficult to you.

I'll be terrified. And my response is exactly what you said there. Well, actually, because I'm not a racist or a sexist or transphobic or whatever, it doesn't really matter. I'm just myself. And you know what? To touch wood, so far, so good. It's been okay.

So there is that element to it. But at the same time, I wasn't actually coming at it from that angle. I was coming at it from a sort of, wow, doesn't life move so quickly angle, which I think is a little bit more. Like within, like sometimes I'm going, oh, God, I sort of said, somebody texted something in. And the time that I'm on air, you do get some slightly strange text, because it's 10pm,

people are either drunk or stoned or whatever, and they're, you know. They're sorry about that. And so, like, I'm reading that, and I'm going, well, it sounds like he's gone mad, and I was thinking, going mad? I mean, you know, you're still, like, you know, going mad,

you shouldn't really be using that, so I'm going, I'm trying to find ways of skirting around that because my you know comedic kind of you know touchstones

that are really easy to sort of pull out is something like that you know what I mean you shouldn't be on 4chan at the same time you're working and they won't get

blurred as easily will they anyway if you've got any opinions on any of that sort of stuff hello at lukeandpete show dot com is the destination for it if you've got any opinions on any of that sort of stuff hello at luke and pete show dot com

is the destination for it if you remember sister sister we want to hear from you no we don't really I don't think it's even

I kind of do it's not even up there with Clarissa or Keenan and Kel or the top of the Nickelodeon charts why are you why

Clarissa was well later than sister sister but it's a classic as was Keenan and Kel Keenan and Kel you should not even

be watching I don't think I ever saw Keenan and Kel I just said it Ke, you should not even be watching. I don't think I ever saw Keenan and Kel, I just said it. Keenan ended up on SNL, didn't he? Believe so.

Don't forget, I've got a sister who's five years younger than me, so that's why I've got TV all the time. So there you go, rack off, as Australian friends would say.

I've got a great email for next time around in which, listen, stay tuned for this when it comes out later in the week. Right.

A listener has emailed in with a photo, which is supposed to be a lookalike of me. And it's so bad. I don't even know which person the photo he's referring to. And Pete, you're going to solve the riddle on Thursday. So stay tuned for that. We'll be back on Thursday with all your,

all the usual stuff and your emails and that kind of stuff. Thanks for listening. Hello at Luke and peach.com to get in touch. If you are going to say lookalikes, make them at least sort of in the same ballpark as the person

you're trying to lookalike. Hello at LukeandPeach.com Luke Moore, pornalikes please. Oh for God's sake. Ha ha! See you next time. Outro Music