The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 144: Nostalgia podcasting

Episode Date: February 21, 2019

Hi all, and a very happy Thursday to you! The Luke and The Pete are back and talking about the issues that matter to absolutely no-one. Hey, it keeps us off the streets and out of the can, ya hear?The...re's chat about Channel 4 and their latest poverty tourism documentary series, there's a good bit on Bible verses, Pete's somewhat cavalier attitude towards toast, a clarification regarding Dublin Zoo, and lots more. We even find time to hear about a listener or two being cured of their phobia. Join our club, send us an email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 do not disrupt the recording of this podcast by quickly rushing over to the luke and pete shaw cupboard and trying to grab a pencil is this the right i'm back in a minute where have you gone he's going to get some paper and a pen. This is the first one we're recording and he's just buggered. He's got his pen. Now he's looking for some paper. This is no way to start a show. This is Luke and Pete show
Starting point is 00:00:34 with a professional Pete and an unprofessional Luke. It's about time you did an intro. I was in before you. You could have gone the way. Was this because you were out in the cafe getting some freshly squeezed orange juice? Something to do with that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Hello everyone. Hello. Happy Thursday, it's nearly the weekend I've clocked off already. Haven't I? Oh dear, oh dear. You need to start wearing shirts where you can put a little pocket square in there and a pen. Yeah, I think so. A pocket protector. And people will expect that kind of behaviour from you, I think. When I do it, it shakes them to their very core because they look at so and I think pocket protector and people will expect that kind of behaviour from you I think
Starting point is 00:01:05 when I do it it shakes them to their very core because they look at me and they think yes he's boring and officious and a little bit
Starting point is 00:01:13 of a loud mouth and vicious but he is organised and swept up and sometimes I let him behind the curtain and show that I'm not we've just seen
Starting point is 00:01:20 mummy kissing Santa Claus we have and she's getting cold sores we have seen mummy kissing Santa Claus. She's getting cold sores. We have seen mommy kissing Santa Claus. Pete, how have you been? How's your week been since Monday? It's been all right. What have we been up to?
Starting point is 00:01:32 A Def Leppard themed Monday. Wasn't it? We had that cruise ship email, didn't we? Yes. Follow up on that. The bloke who died, died of cancer. I mean, that is. I mean, he dies of cancer.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Cancer he didn't know he had. That's how bad the cruise was. Yeah, it's finished him off. Yeah, I think he thought he had like emphysema. He thought he said he didn't feel very well. He felt a bit like phlegmy and stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:54 But he died literally of cancer on that cruise. Imagine having undiagnosed a disease like that, undiagnosed, and then you die on a cruise. A nostalgia cruise as well. A nostalgia cruise. You know the podcast industry is, and I've just read something this morning,
Starting point is 00:02:09 saying that the podcast bubble's about to burst. Oh no. This stuff happens all the time. Like the housing bubble. Yeah. We're in a podcast bubble at the moment, if it is a bubble, but we're in a podcast moment, I'd say. Sist.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Everyone's making podcasts. I heard someone describe podcasting as the back tattoo of the millennial generation or whatever. Everyone's got one. They'll probably regret it later. So my question to you, Pete Donaldson, is that fast forward 20 years, we're all just doing normal stuff again,
Starting point is 00:02:36 probably got families, that kind of thing. If someone comes to you and says, you know what was massive in 2018, or 2017, 2019? Podcasting. And we're doing a nostalgia podcast tour. Oh, right, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And we're going to try and get... We do all our projects. Luke and Pete back together. Yeah. And what we need you to do is agree to it and then see if you can recruit Luke to do it. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Would you do it? Well, only if I can make a podcast about my journey. It'll be like, what was his name? They used to do lots of nostalgia TV shows like trying to reunite the A-team and stuff. like, what was his name? They used to do loads of nostalgia TV shows like trying to reunite
Starting point is 00:03:07 the A-Team and stuff. Oh, it was Justin Lee Collins. The disgraced. The now disgraced Justin Lee Collins. The now disgraced. I'm pleased he's off the scene because a lot of people
Starting point is 00:03:14 used to say I look like him and I was disappointed so now he's gone. It's just anyone who looks a bit like a lion and has got a bit of a beard. Yeah, basically, yeah. From the court documents,
Starting point is 00:03:22 he wouldn't allow his girlfriend, his ex-girlfriend to watch any films with attractive men in them the worst bit of that which is incredible work
Starting point is 00:03:31 yeah the worst bit I think the worst bit of that isn't what you just said there the worst bit of that entire debacle debacle? that foul jamboree was that apparently
Starting point is 00:03:41 he would get angry if he woke up in the middle of the night and his girlfriend wasn't facing him while she slept. I'm going to say psychopath. We're not going to... He probably uses his oven as storage,
Starting point is 00:03:55 which you no longer do. We're not going to get deep in the tendrils of spousal abuse, so to speak. You brought it up. I'm just saying. It's disgraceful. I'm just saying to get deep in the tendrils of spousal abuse, so to speak. Well, you brought it up. I'm just saying. It's disgraceful. I'm just saying it happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It's just weird behavior. It is very strange behavior. Anyway, he was the king of nostalgia. Yes. And you know what they say. Nostalgia's not what it used to be. But would you do a podcast nostalgia trip if you were... I mean, you might be on Hard Times. You might be a multimillionaire for all I know.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Hard Times! 2039. Fast forward 20 years. was your trip if you were I mean you might be on hard times you might be a multi-millionaire for all I know hard times 2039 fast forward 20 years you are now dead very much dead Luke you would be 48 years old
Starting point is 00:04:34 right would you do it if you were still alive would you do it yeah I mean like you sort of see these bands
Starting point is 00:04:40 who do like we'd have like late night bands who had their hair day in like 1998 joining those
Starting point is 00:04:47 kind of 90s pop Len why would it be Len they had one hit that was in brand 3000
Starting point is 00:04:55 or 99 now you're talking drinking in LA very underrated debut album that Glee I had some good times isn't there
Starting point is 00:05:01 I never heard anything other than the sequel the Quebec 7 some were they from Quebec I think they were but they're not doing tours now are they I think they're back I never heard anything other than the Seagulls the Quebec Sevensome were they from Quebec I think they were but they're not doing tours now are they I don't know
Starting point is 00:05:08 I think they're back I think they're still together right they did about 3 or 4 albums but we're not still together I really hope that but yeah they're bands that
Starting point is 00:05:16 are kind of joining tours kind of Britpop tours that were kind of well known in the early noughties it's really sort of strange so we're getting sort of those Britpop tours
Starting point is 00:05:26 with bands that weren't even strictly Britpop. Right. You're not answering my question, though. Yes, I do. You'll do anything. I'd do anything for money. Let's talk about quality control. You won't do anything for money.
Starting point is 00:05:38 You say that, but you won't. I will do anything for money. I mean, a good amount of money. Not a small amount of money not a small amount of money so you would do any job that came so for example
Starting point is 00:05:49 I'm saying to you oh there's a job come up in a couple of months time right and you've got to be the mouthpiece
Starting point is 00:05:57 I'll tell you what we're going to give you we're going to give you your own show we're going to fly you over all expenses paid and you're going to have your own show
Starting point is 00:06:04 it's a two year contract it's whatever time of day you want because we think you all expenses paid and you're going to have your own show. It's a two year contract. It's whatever time of day you want because we think you're so good. But you've got to have and you've got to follow the editorial line. I'm going to give you your own show on Fox News. Would you do it? Yeah. 10 million. 10 million. Yeah, massively. But you've got to espouse these
Starting point is 00:06:19 horrendous... There are a couple of shows on Fox News that don't necessarily... You ain't having one of them. I've got Tucker Carlson. That's not available to you. That's not available to you. I've got to do a Tucker. Yeah. The thing is,
Starting point is 00:06:30 the people on Fox News don't believe any of that shit. They just say it because, again, it's just the party line and they're all so able to. Of course, and I'm asking whether
Starting point is 00:06:37 you would join them in their gang. Yeah, fuck it. Whether they're on Palm Beach. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Fuck it. It's all a joke, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:45 You're basically going to ruin lives. You're having to ruin lives for the money. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Fuck it. It's all a joke, isn't it? You're basically going to ruin lives. You're happy to ruin lives for the money. Yeah, no. That's the difference. Nobody watches Fox News who are under 50. It's television for all over 50s, the twitchy curtain, twitchy kind of generation.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And they'll go. They'll go. Nobody watches Fox News under 50. So it's fine. So you reckon they're sitting on a ticking time bomb anyway? Yeah, they're going to be watching that anyway. They're going to be leaving. They're going to be believing that there's a caravan on the edge of...
Starting point is 00:07:12 Imagine if you went over there thinking you were going to do one of those reasonable shows and they were like, no, I did the old switcheroo. I'll be doing the John Peel. What have we got on the agenda? What's the first... Oh, for fuck's sake. I'd love it. Oh, I'd be a brilliant birther.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I would watch it. Let's... Birther, lovely birther. Sometimes I think you're a dreamer. But you were born in the US and it's fine. See, they're repatriating... Repatriating? Is that really a word you want to use?
Starting point is 00:07:38 I think they're repatriating one of those rappers. One of those SoundCloud rappers. Yes. That you're so comfortable talking about. Secretly British. Secretly British. 21 Savage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah. At least I know his name, mate. Unlike you. Unlike you. They've all got numbers in their name. Extation. They've all got numbers in their name and tattoos on their face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:56 That's how you know. Squiggles. They're never good tattoos, are they? I know the face is quite a hard thing to tattoo because the skin's a little bit different. It's like the sole of your foot. I was reading, obviously last week, this time's like the sole of your foot. I was reading a, obviously last week, this time last week it was Valentine's Day
Starting point is 00:08:08 and I was reading an article on vice. I mean, never do that, but I was. Let me guess. I give handjobs to men in a Coventry pub
Starting point is 00:08:18 for £10. Yes, but I'm very much like the... I'm sure you did, but I'm just getting off this bicycle. No, it was... I ate a new drug off this bicycle. No, it was...
Starting point is 00:08:26 I ate a new drug. Yeah, it was the biggest regrets that you had for things you'd done for your Valentine. Right, okay. And a lot of it is very Chris Morris, obviously, as you just alluded to there. Who, by the way, he's primed for a readout. Can we find Chris Morris and get him to do something? Because he's amazing and he doesn't do anything. He's literally releasing a Netflix film this month.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Good. What is it? Is it non-fiction? Is it documentary? Is it fiction? What is it? It's fiction, yeah, I think. I can't remember what it's about
Starting point is 00:08:52 but he's been consistently working for some time. There was a reunion of the Day to Day lot, wasn't there? I saw that. I thought that was just a thing where they have dinner
Starting point is 00:09:02 but everyone gets excited they're doing something new. But listen, Chris, if you're out there listening, I'm sat here with your natural air, Pete Donaldson to my left. If you want to do a podcast,
Starting point is 00:09:12 please do consider the Redos to come off network. Anyway, Valentine's. These guys were sending in messages about things they'd done. And it's just like general stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:20 You know, I bought my Valentine a rose and took him or her out for dinner i forget which and turned out she was allergic to roses and so she ended up going to anaphylactic shark and that kind of stuff okay and one guy just put yeah so i was uh i was seeing this girl and i was getting a bit paranoid that she didn't like me anymore so valentine's day came around and uh so i got a tattoo of her name on my face. And it's like, come on.
Starting point is 00:09:46 At what point? There's a lot of people to blame for this. One, yourself. Two, I mean, the guy was probably, I think he was about 17, so your parents. Tattooists should be allowed. Tattoo artists should not be allowed to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Exactly. How does he find someone who would do it? He must have been very tattooed because most reputable tattoo artists will not tattoo the face unless they've got other tattoos elsewhere on their body. Or the penis. Or the penis.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah. You know, you've got to decide whether you want to touch it. Touch it! The most painful place, apparently, is the ribs. Yeah, it's not nice. Actually, the shin was... My shin tattoo was painful
Starting point is 00:10:23 in that in the vibrations right on bone oh man and if the skin is close to the bone I think it's probably going to be painful gross
Starting point is 00:10:30 should we change trains Pete Donaldson ok because I've got something to bring to the table that I actually planned the train table oh by the way
Starting point is 00:10:38 apparently I'm not going to do that it's so boring what tell me train tickets yeah that is boring this Saturday
Starting point is 00:10:43 so the 23rd is National Toast Day. What, you thought that train tickets wasn't interesting enough? I just thought it was interesting. You're bringing cooked bread to the table. Where does that rank alongside my Woodlice chat? Well, it seems to have spawned a little bit of chatter. It's almost like I'm the voice of a generation. I never eat toast.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It's just not something that's in my wheelhouse. I was going to ask you what you like on your toast. You don't have toast, no? Have you got a toaster? I actually considered in the cafe this morning a little bit of toast with a banana instead. Have you got a toaster? I do, but again, I've put it in the cupboard. Not enough room in my house. I was like, look, I'll you got a toaster? I do,
Starting point is 00:11:25 but again, I've put it in the cupboard. Not enough room in my house. I was like, look, I'll still go in a cupboard because I ain't using it enough. Because I've noticed that it's fashionable
Starting point is 00:11:31 among a lot of middle class people of around my vintage to not only not have a toaster, but to not have a kettle either. How do you make tea? So they'll do toast under the grill, pretentious, and they'll do tea in one of those kettles you put on the hob.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Oh, yeah. Piss off. Yeah, I know. Or a cafeteria. You're not a coffee drinker, so I guess a cafeteria would probably work. I think it's a blight on our society. One of those little metal things.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And one thing that I hope will not be... It's a bit continental for my taste, Pete. It's a bit foreign, isn't it? And I'll say what I said before. Brexit means Brexit. I saw a quote from, my taste, Pete. It's a bit foreign, isn't it? And I'll say what I said before. Brexit means Brexit. I saw a quote from, I think, the Bible. A kingdom that is divided is a kingdom that will fall. I'm presuming I'm getting that massively wrong,
Starting point is 00:12:16 but that's kind of the sentiment. It was written on the side of a bus, some God company. Yeah, sometimes by advertising. Some God company. And it sort of said, yeah, it sort of said that, a kingdom. So that means that Jesus
Starting point is 00:12:28 has remained, presumably. Yeah. Or just bored of the whole sorry affair maybe. That's the problem, isn't it? When you have a conversation with anyone around that kind of stuff, like religion and stuff,
Starting point is 00:12:38 you have to ascertain exactly what they specifically believe before you can have the parameters in place to have a debate about it. What do you mean? So what I mean is, if you're a Christian and I'm not, and I say,
Starting point is 00:12:51 I don't agree with this because of this, and you can easily just go, well, I don't actually believe that. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? You can change the goalposts whenever you want. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So the problem, the reason that relates to what you're saying there is fine. Someone's put that on the side of a bus, but that is just someone's, one person's interpretation of what Jesus said. And he's just paid to put it on the side of a bus. There's no, there's no sort of official spokesperson.
Starting point is 00:13:15 For God. Beyond the great man himself. I can name one. Yeah, but everything he says, he's not there to defend himself, is he? So he can't,
Starting point is 00:13:22 everything's open to interpretation. That's why you have people who, you know, there's people out in the US those preachers who fly around on private jets saying give me all your money it's what Jesus would have wanted and everyone's like yeah alright but then you get other people
Starting point is 00:13:31 who go oh no I live in rags on the street because that's what Jesus did and that's what he wants me to do also I can have some money yeah couldn't I please have some money as well but it's on a smaller scale
Starting point is 00:13:40 it's all about money and wearing hats and clothes I'm 90% convinced that people who get into that kind of caper, as in they work in the church and all that, it's normally men, obviously, and they always tend to be a bit older, and they just like wearing hats and nice clothes. Sometimes if I'm at a church as a non-religious person,
Starting point is 00:13:57 I completely defend the idea of being religious if you want to be, but from a non-religious person's perspective, when you go into a church and you sit down for some sort of occasional function, every single time, whatever the denomination, whatever the religion, if I'm invited there for a function, the guy comes out at the front
Starting point is 00:14:14 and you just think, what a get-up. What a get-up. What a get-up. It's normally flowing, very clean, very clean and new. Vivid colours,
Starting point is 00:14:25 purples, greens. You're not wearing pants. No, definitely not. You're not wearing pants. No point. No one's going to look up a priest's skirt, is it? Sometimes you get a hat
Starting point is 00:14:32 and the hat, it's not any old hat, it's not like a baker boy's hat, it's a proper big hat. Yeah, and also, if you ever catch me becoming a priest, I think it's the,
Starting point is 00:14:42 is it the Russian Orthodox that have those swingy kind of balls that they swing on the end of a chair? Oh, the fragrance. Yeah think it's is it the Russian Orthodox that have those those swingy kind of balls that they swing on the end of a chain oh the fragrance yeah it's ash or something I don't fucking know
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think a variety of them do that but they just sort of go back and forth they never do the full around the world that's what you mean why do they never
Starting point is 00:14:57 sort of just go woo it's tempting like a morning star woo come on it's a fucking maze baby it's full of ash.
Starting point is 00:15:05 What it is, it's like when... I'm going to get in your fucking hair. When kids go on the swings and there's always room and they can go all the way around but no one ever sees it. It's like that.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I have seen people go all the way around. It never ends very well. It's impossible. It's not impossible. Right. Hello at Luke and Pete. If you've ever gone around the top. Hello at LukeandPete.com.
Starting point is 00:15:20 If you, not a rumour you've heard, not someone telling you, if you've ever actually seen with your own eyes someone as a kid on the swings going all the way around. Because at the risk of sounding like some sort of shit Michael McIntyre, I don't think that's ever happened. I don't think that has ever, ever happened.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I don't even know if the laws of nature allow it to happen unless the swing chain is solid. You cannot get the momentum. The swing chain would be solid because you've got to wait at the end of it. So yes, it would be solid. You'd have to go fast enough for it to remain, thanks to the centrifugal force.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I think it's actually, you'll find it's centripetal force, not centrifugal force. That's the opposite. What's the difference? They're opposites. What do you mean? You know what I mean. What do you mean? find it's centripetal force not centripetal force that's the opposite what's the difference they're opposites what do you mean you know what I mean what do you mean
Starting point is 00:16:07 move on centripetal when people say centripetal they mean centripetal yes right okay I believe so yeah
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm doubting myself I'm doubting myself it would remain solid if you had enough speed wouldn't it because your weight would be thrown out from the radius
Starting point is 00:16:22 you know what I'm thinking before we go to a break now my mind is thinking, a priest on a swing, eating toast on Valentine's Day, swinging all the way around. Everyone can see his money, because he's not wearing anything.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And it goes over his head. And he's like, this is ungodly. I just think they dress well. It's vivid purples, it's greens, it's golds, it's hats.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Who had the best swing in your street? I had one. I had a good one. Did you have a good one? Yep. Was it cemented into the floor? I thank you, Mr. Moore. Yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Enough props to Mr. Moore's skills. You had the best swing in the street then? There's a picture of me. I shared it with you. My sister's standing on the swing and she's wearing a Beauty and the Beast jumper. All right. I'm stood behind.
Starting point is 00:17:03 A little scared. Beauty and the Beast. I'm stood behind. A little scared. Beauty and the Beast. I'm stood behind her. Right. Very much the Beast in this scenario. Quite beastly. Yeah. And I've got a Guns N' Roses Axl Rose t-shirt on.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And we're standing on our own swing that my dad's cementing into the ground. Hello, childhood. Nice. Childhood 101. Well, I just remember sort of my mate had one. Paul Todd had a great swing. Actually, no, it was Jonathan. It doesn't matter who it was.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I remember it being quite rusty. Jonathan McKinley sort of had his cemented in the floor and it was just the best swing. Everybody else's swing, it was maybe at most tent pegged into the ground. So it meant if you went very high, it would just sort of fall away. That's a disaster wanting to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Massively. A lot of my childhood, I can remember someone getting some momentum and the back legs just flicking up. Yeah. And you think this is going over.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Awful. This is going over. Yeah. Awful. Maybe in that way that's kind of a safety mechanism so you don't go over the top. You just land on the floor.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You just land on the floor. We used to play this game where you swing as high as you could and you jump off at the key apex of the height and see who could get the furthest. The furthest, yeah. And you would chalk it on the ground.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Because the thing is, we used to play it in the back alley, which is all concrete. You'd swing the furthest you could, and then you'd chalk it down. And you'd put your name next to it. I got really annoyed. There was a TV show last week about Skint Britain, and they focused on Hartley.
Starting point is 00:18:19 But I think the whole series is going to be about Hartley. Oh, I've got to watch that. I've saved it. But in the Daily Mirror, one of the tabloids, basically found the people who were detailed, the guy who skinned a rabbit and all that shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And it turns out he's a bit of a fantasist and a bit of a madman. Oh, right. So this wasn't a true reflection? Well, Was it Channel 4? Was it Channel 4?
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, it was. What an amazing surprise. Well, all of his friends, all of his sort of people who knew him, he said, fucking idiot that lad and the thing about that is
Starting point is 00:18:47 I think Channel 4 do some great stuff and I but there's a difference between someone like you and I who we haven't got a huge experience on TV we're not TV stores
Starting point is 00:18:55 we have seen how the sausage is made if you like I think people like you and I know that it's just a TV programme so you haven't got to invest in the reality of it,
Starting point is 00:19:07 that type of program, as much as maybe an average person who's never been into a TV studio or a TV show would. And so I'm not surprised when I find that out. Some people will be, and they'll be disappointed because the TV show is made up to be something it isn't. Yeah, but I think the TV show had you know a wider point to make about
Starting point is 00:19:25 universal credit and that system is fucked and people are literally dying because of their benefits being taken away it's just on this occasion with one of the characters
Starting point is 00:19:35 in this particular sorry piece oh mate but the actual picture that he is I understand that the actual picture in the mirror
Starting point is 00:19:40 is basically sort of said I think it's the mirror or something basically had a picture of like a back alley in Hartle think it's the mirror son basically had a picture of like a back alley in Hartlepool it's a back alley
Starting point is 00:19:48 it's a shitty back alley and they went a street in Hartlepool this is a back alley this is like when you put your bins you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:19:57 made by people we know we've met them we know who they are we Tarquin from Oxford remember that guy Rupert we worked with before
Starting point is 00:20:05 they'll be making shows and they'll be going up there on the train and they will literally be getting the antibacterial hand gel out as they get off and they will be making
Starting point is 00:20:13 programmes they're not qualified to make that's the issue that's the issue there's not enough working class people like you and I Pete working the media
Starting point is 00:20:20 and we'll give you listener at home I ate a Faberge egg last night did you? yeah bloody hell you're not supposed to eat and they're worth quite a lot of money they're delicious though go for a poo it's a break in the media. And we'll give you listener at home. Mate, I ate a Fabergé egg last night. Did you? Yeah. Bloody hell,
Starting point is 00:20:26 you're not supposed to eat and they're worth quite a lot of money. They're delicious though. Go for a poo. It's a break, you go for a poo and we'll fish it out. Hello at
Starting point is 00:20:31 LukeandPeach.com to get in touch. We'll do some emails after this. Also, I'd like to know if anyone owns a Fabergé egg. You're probably wondering
Starting point is 00:20:40 why I'm in a cold, dark room repeatedly spilling molasses. Because you're a prick, mate. Ah. How have we gone from poverty to Fabergé eggs and like that? That's the versatility of you as a broadcaster, Donaldson. Bang! You are equally as uninformed on poverty as you are on Fabergé.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I think that's why the public have warmed to you. Was there a perfume called Fabergé? I'll expect so. In the 80s? I'll expect so, yeah. Fabergé. That rings a bell. Yeah, I expect that. Anyway. Do you want to do an email? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I've got some emails. The Wi-Fi has allowed me to do this. So thank you to Tom Hardwick-Preston. Hello, Tom. Speaking of poverty. I'm joking. Listen, you should never judge someone on their name. Never judge a book by its cover.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Never judge Lethal Weapon by Danny Glover. Do you know Max Power, the Sunderland footballer? You used to play for Wigan. I do, yeah. His middle name is Macaulay. So Max Mac Power, which I quite like. That's good. That's actually quite good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Tom Hardwick Preston says, Hi guys, I've never emailed in before, but the last episode's topic of partners curing fears got me thinking I could actually contribute to something in my life. That's tragic, Tom. I've been with my girlfriend for three and a bit years uh and when we first started dating i was absolutely terrified of horses and most dogs because i'd never been around them before i thought they would bite me um she kept three horses and a dog at her stables
Starting point is 00:21:58 next to her house posh i know at first i was apprehensive but my affection for her overrided my instinct to run away at the moment I saw her eight foot massive horse. The first few months I was quite afraid of going to the stable. I mean, they are big horses. That's the thing. If you're not on nodding terms
Starting point is 00:22:11 with a horse, it can be surprising how big they are. It's just like, what else has happened? I have no use for this. Well, millions of years of evolution, mate.
Starting point is 00:22:19 That's how it's happened. Remember the days, well, you don't remember the days, but there were days where we used to have megafauna on the earth, which were,'t remember the days but there were days where we used to have mega fauna on the earth which were giant, just giant animals just roaming around
Starting point is 00:22:30 Fauna Fauna, yeah What's the other word you always have with it? Flora and fauna I did not know that so thank you for the information Anyway The first few months I was quite afraid of going to the stables
Starting point is 00:22:48 as I have seen what horses can do if they feel threatened. He wasn't at all arsed about me being around him. Obviously, I'm not threatening enough. Eventually, I became very close to both our horses and dogs, so much so that when she and her family go on holiday, they trust me with looking after them. She's even taught me how to ride, not the big horse, but a smaller, safer one. I suppose my point is that being in a relationship
Starting point is 00:23:06 where your fear is a big part of their life means you grow out of the fear and become used to it. Yeah. And he wrote that email twice because I think he didn't realise he'd sent it and then he sent it again, slightly written in a slightly different way. A lot of the
Starting point is 00:23:21 correspondees will be drunk. Yeah, there's a couple actually later on who are clearly pissed. I think we expect that. I think if we're being realistic with ourselves, Pete, we have been passed over
Starting point is 00:23:31 for the big jobs in broadcasting. Right. So we are essentially resigned to the idea that we do our own podcast and we bloody will enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Picking up the detritus. And you can judge a show by the quality of its correspondence and a lot of ours are drunk. Yeah. So make of that what you will. I mean, a lot of the time we its correspondence. And a lot of ours are drunk. So make of that what you will.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I mean, a lot of the time we're drunk. It's an excellent feature. Geoff Lloyd, who used to be on Absolute and Virgin. I like Geoff, nice chap. He would do a piece called Drunk or Stoned, where someone would call in, and due to legal reasons and off-comer rules, he had to do a big old explanation about the dangers of alcohol and weed.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I love that. If you want to do this feature, Geoff, you're going to have to read that as a disclaimer. I'll do it. It took ages. But then you get to the caller, and the caller has to ring in and chat to Geoff and Annabelle, his co-host,
Starting point is 00:24:20 and basically decide whether he was drunk or stoned. Love that. It's a wonderful little feature. We often talk about opening up a little get a burner. You and I have talked
Starting point is 00:24:29 about getting a burner phone, whacking out a WhatsApp number. I try to look for this phone that I've got in my house. I don't know where that bloody hell is
Starting point is 00:24:35 And getting people to send their voice messages in because that would be fun. That would be messy. It would be but I mean it would be good wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:24:40 It would be fun. Put it this way, it's less content for us. It's less work for us. Thanks for that, Tom. Is that Tom? Yeah. What's his full name?
Starting point is 00:24:48 T-Dog Hardwick Preston. Tom Hardwick Preston, and he's emailed in about looking after horses. Turns out you can judge a book by its cover. What about this from Dan? Thank you very much, Tom, for messaging in. Dan's got a little bit of a, sort of a half moan,
Starting point is 00:25:03 but at least a very robust clarification. Right. He says, hi, I'm Dan Cook from Dublin. Yo, D from D. He's not bothered about his name being read out. DC from D, baby. The biggest city in the world. 411.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Shut up, you did that last week. I did it with the zoo. I'm about to talk more about the zoo. He says, I'm a big fan of the show. You guys do a great job of keeping me entertained while updating documents and spreadsheets. While I'm not particularly fussed about any of the tourist attractions in my hometown,
Starting point is 00:25:30 I won't let one of our best attractions be besmirched. It was not Dublin Zoo that had a chimp and red panda escape from recently Pete Donaldson. It was actually Belfast Zoo. Shit. Dublin Zoo is a fantastic zoo to go to, and I definitely recommend it if either of you gents are ever over.
Starting point is 00:25:45 That being said, I'd recommend to bring your own food, as the restaurant queues are insanely long and the food is so, so at best. We don't go to a zoo for the food, I don't think. No. What makes it worse is that most restaurants are out in the open, massive groups of pigeons and seagulls. I think he's talking about restaurants in general in Dublin. Pigeons and seagulls have taken abode around seating areas,
Starting point is 00:26:03 waiting for food to either be thrown at them or dropped off tables. Going a bit off piece there, Dan. I tell you this from my own experience. The last time I had gone to the outdoor restaurant in Dublin, a very unfortunate family had dropped their meal while walking back to the table. This in turn caused what I can only describe as dawn of the dead recast with pigeons and seagulls. Well, I did feel sorry for the poor family.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It was hard not to laugh at the situation. I don't think, Dan, if you're going to a restaurant for a good quality experience, it's going to make you sit outside and carry your own food to your table, to be fair. Are you, in this situation, I can't help but think that the zoo, which I presume would have some kind of tax breaks per animal it owns, could the zoo claim those animals as an exhibit
Starting point is 00:26:47 and therefore claim back on the tax? Tax deductible? What, for shooting the birds? Animals are tax deductible. No, the exhibit. Because presumably you get tax breaks for how big your zoo is. I don't think this restaurant was in the zoo.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I think he's talking about Dublin's restaurants in general. Oh, key point. So I think Dan might spend a lot of his time eating at restaurants. They make you take your own food to the table in styrofoam packets. I think you're thinking, I think he is talking about the zoo here. That would be strange for him just to. So in that case, well done the zoo. Clever.
Starting point is 00:27:17 In that case, Dan, you win the award for the most confusing email of the year so far. And yes, we are easily confused. Pete, do you know what? What? They say time flies when you're having fun I think we need to get out of here mate
Starting point is 00:27:27 oh no we can those emails we've got lined up we can do those on Monday can't we alright then baby
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