The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 149: Undercut Boulevard

Episode Date: March 11, 2019

Howdy, it's Monday and we're back! It's time to talk about Crufts, as the world's premier dog show returned last weekend to much amusement and entertainment to both Luke and Pete. Lovely bitches.Elsewhere, we talk haircuts, Ricky Gervais' After Life, Captain Marvel, and lots more besides. There's also plenty of time for your emails too, which this time around feature Michael Jordan, listeners' dreams, and furries (!), and we also find time to squeeze in a quick Mencarta to honour a remarkable woman who sadly died last week.Keep that good stuff flowing in: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Wow! That is some crisp clicking in that soundtrack to the Luke and Pete show. Luke and Pete are back! And I'll level with you, it sounds like I've had a heavy weekend. My friend was promoted, my friend Dave Shine was promoted to Lieutenant Commander. So he was celebrating all weekend in honour of his promotion to doing more vending machine filling on the boat ship that he lives in. Congratulations to him. And to you, Peter, on that astonishingly bright red jumper.

It is astonishingly. I've watched it a few times and it's still almost luminous. Red's rarely luminous. I don't know what they've done to it. From which emporium did you purchase it? I think it was Top Man. I was cold. I was thirsty.

Were you there? Were you there? And I just bought it on a whim, on a chilly whim. And I was like, wow, this was only £10, but it's very bright. Can't wait for the impending court case around high street retailers colouring their clothing with nuclear paste. Nuclear paste.

With radium. Oh, nuclear paste. It's like that guy who made that Vantablack. Remember that guy who made, and then Stuart Semple did an equivalent product that I bought and have never used. So I've got this super black paint, version two of three, I think,

and I've never used it for anything. I've just not got any reason to paint anything black. No, really black. Super black. I see a red jumper and I want it painted black. I'm turning, I'm basically trying to distract from the fact that I have got a few more white hairs on my head by trying to colour up my jumper.

See, Xi Jinping has gone against Communist Party protocol by starting to introduce a little bit of salt and pepper in his hair. Oh, that's a no-no, isn't it? It's a big no-no.

Everybody wants to be, everybody wants to look young. So these 60, 70-year-old men have like pitch black hair until they're about, you know, 80 and then they start to go grey. But he's, I think he's 60-odd now. young so these 60 70 year old men have like pitch black hair until they're about you know 80 and then they start to go grey but he's I

think he's 60 odd now and he's starting to go a little bit grey and apparently it shows that he's working hard for the people etc they want to know his kind of whole image is that he wants

to be known as like a nice uncle who he's flip reversed it who imprisons Muslims yeah I like a bit of the old salt and pepper yeah reminds me

I heard a football pundit last week not going to name him wouldn't be fair wasn't me wasn't you okay that's all that matters

am I a football pundit well you are twice a week that's loose isn't it that is that is the loosest I'm out on the you know

if you were going to draw a diagram you're out there yeah I'm out there you're in some sort of colonial outpost some sort of mad old

sort of colonial but he some sort of mad old colonial but he said letters from America he said whatever happens this season Liverpool and

Jurgen Klopp will view this season as a great leap forward I mean not like the actual great leap

forward which let's be fair was a disaster has he got a five year plan aha brilliant

it's episode 149 of the Luke and Pete show. It's Monday the 11th of March. Come in. You're very welcome. We've missed you Monday morning commute. We gave up on that. I couldn't be bothered. The MMC baby.

Yeah, so now we're doing you for the Monday afternoon slash Tuesday morning commute. You could be having a sandwich in a square on a beautiful sunny day in the nation's capital. Yes. And you could be listening to the Luke and Pete show, enjoying our stories of dog shit and bodily functions.

And doctors being struck off due to us. Yes. Peter, did you watch Crufts yesterday? I didn't watch Crufts, but I always catch up on the Monday after Crufts where I watch lots of videos of dogs watching Crufts and getting incredibly excited. My cats love it as well.

Weirdly enough, they love it. They keep going up there and trying to pull the telly. In the same way that I'm scared of murderers, but I'll watch loads of TV shows about murderers, as long as they're in the telly. Yes. I watch True Detective, it's fine, but it's, you know. I remember watching Lost Land of the Jaguar on the TV,

and when the Jaguar actually comes up on the TV box, Magnus, one of my my cats is straight up there straight there brave now I've seen him be blown over by wind and scared of leaves in the garden

so he's brave inside he's a mower he is basically a mower he's a mower through and through did you what was I going to say did you see that one

got mauled by a Jaguar in America this Jaguar has mauled someone else as well because people will they love a selfie they want a selfie with a jaguar in America. This jaguar has mauled someone else as well because people will, they love a selfie. They want a selfie

with a jaguar and the jaguar gets its hands through the cage and gives the woman what she deserved. And she fell on the floor and

demanded to be sent to the hospital and made a big furore about it. Just don't go near a jaguar. If I got attacked by a jaguar I'll be

attacking everyone. Have you seen that footage of the guy at the zoo by the tiger enclosure? Sorry about it. Just don't go near a jaguar. If I got attacked by a jaguar, I'd be attacking everyone. Have you seen that footage of the guy at the zoo by the tiger enclosure? No. I think... Oh, he's behind glass. And the kid creeps up on him. Glass.

And yeah, it's sort of properly stalking him, isn't it? It gets so close. Yeah. Without the guy even realising because he's moved so slightly. I think a lot of farmers and rural workers up in northern India

I think it is they wear these masks on the back of their head because a tiger will only ever attack you from behind so they wear masks on the back of their head to confuse the tiger

that is actually facing them and it will never attack incredible to me that is not a foolproof defence mechanism no I would kill a clown

I ain't gonna help me out you forget that like everywhere else in the world like safety is not that paramount at this one? No. There you go. What's that? A clown one? That ain't going to help me out. You forget that like everywhere else in the world like safety is not that paramount for workers. There was a white tiger that killed its keeper in Japan in the south island of Japan

or the south bit of Japan I forget where it is. But the parents of the 40 year old zookeeper who died um said that it shouldn't be punished i mean i don't know how you punish a tiger for murdering a person but yeah uh it basically was cleaning out its um its cell without letting without making it go somewhere else for a bit yeah i mean which is very much protocol no you can't really bring i mean the most that is manslaughter not murder um going back to the crufts thing two takeaways

from me one is i love the font the crufts font i've back to the Crufts thing, two takeaways from me. One is I love the font, the Crufts font. I've not seen the Crufts font. I sent a message to Sam, visual guy, and I said, look, the Crufts font is absolutely amazing. And he replies, what are you talking about? So obviously that's probably not of you shared by the people that you know about this kind of thing. No, the C is disgusting.

And then secondly, I watch Crufts every year. Is the C petting the R, would you say, there? Yes, it is, yeah. It's sort of gone, good R. But it looks good in neon up on the side of the wall. It doesn't look good there. That colour's awful. But anyway, one of the things that will always amuse me about Crufts,

no matter how many years I watch it, it's such a sort of benign, safe, friendly atmosphere. And generally speaking, you know, I know some of them can be seen as quite weird, but animal lovers are sort of nice people right so it's quite a sort of

friendly you can't imagine it all kicking off at Cruft you know oh I think you can I mean there's a lot of emotions from very posh prim people

yeah but not in a really sort of dangerous way no because none of the dogs are in any way you know you don't see many

bull mastiffs get wet in Cru, do you? No. They're all little yappers, aren't they? And you can imagine someone getting particularly perturbed about being overcharged two quid for like a dog bed or something. But generally speaking, it's a safe environment.

So you watch it, it's nice and relaxed, and maybe you've got a bit of a hangover, you flick it on the TV, and you think, oh, this is nice, it's on for a couple of hours as well, you can just get involved and just let it sort of swamp over you. And then every so often

you just hear a very posh person on the voiceover going, and here's, peaking ears, and she really is a lovely bitch. Yeah.

And that just always takes me out of it. Strong word, isn't it? I'm never going to be mature enough to not find that funny. No. Oh, and she really is

a cracking little bitch. It's just good. What a that funny. No. Oh, and she really is a cracking little bitch. It's just good. What a massive slut. Yeah. This Saint Bernard really is a big massive slut. And, you know,

if you were to see her mother who competed in 2012, she really was a huge bitch. A huge bitch. You know, and this bitch is a lot smaller

than that bitch. Yes. Stop saying bitch! Say lady dog! What a hag. Yeah, it is rather discombobulating. Also, I've had my hair cut, by the way. You have had your hair cut.

We've got a football ramble, photoshoot a little bit later on in the week. Yes. So everyone is getting their chops locked, so to speak. Are you getting yours? I don't know. I'm always pretty...

I go monthly, usually. Go to Mr. Topper's. Undercut, please. I can't get out of Undercut Boulevard. If anyone's got any advice how to get out of Undercut Boulevard, I would very much be welcoming of any suggestions because... What did... I am a shit pit.

What does Mr Topper charge you, £8? Used to be a firework. £9, but then that only... It basically means that you tip them six quid, basically. Bloody hell. Well, you get... You're charging them 66%. Cash only, you know, innit? That's unbelievable.

You round it up to a tenner. That's one pound. That's still over... That's a 12% tip. And to be honest, an undercut takes about five minutes. Exactly. Yeah. Mine costs 40 bar.

Well, exactly. So I know how much a haircut takes. And just because my haircut is simple, they shouldn't be unfairly. Here's a tip for you, hairdresser. 40 quid is a tip for you. Charge less, I might come back more often. You'll make more money. Everyone wins.

The overheads are the same. Yeah. You were growing your hair out, but you've sort of given up on that, haven't you? Well, yeah, we've got this thing coming up. We can't really shed too much light on it because we're literally not allowed to but I'm talking

about you as well you know about this and so we've got other photos taken on Thursday and I don't really want my hair to be like that for six months or

whatever it's going to be so that's why I decided to have a haircut listen coming up later I'm going to do a Mankata so get your jingle

ready flipping heck not now did you just press it no yeah don't do it now can you hear it I've got a quick little Mankata which I think people jingle ready. Flippin' heck. Not now. Okay. Did you just press it? No. Yeah, don't do it now. Can you hear it?

I've got a quick little Mankata, which I think people will find interesting. We've also got emails coming up as well. Peter, what have you been up to over the last few days? You had a good weekend? What's been going on? As I said, I had a bit of a party. Well, I watched a little bit of Finish 2 Detective.

Start watching that Gervais thing as well. Oh, do you know what? I'm so pleased you reminded me of that. I'm sorry to cut in I am going to stick my very very poor reputation on the line here it worked for me

with Free Solo so I'm going to I'm going to sail it home I think Afterlife is absolutely brilliant it's one of the most affecting

and touching series I've seen for such a long time I honestly think it's amazing. It's very heavy handed, but it's not as bad as the shit he's been churning out for the last 30 years.

I think it's his best series since Extras. Yeah, because he's gone full one way, he's gone full one way or the other, with some great supporting actors. Correct. And I think some of the observation, I mean, you call it heavy handed,

I don't know how much of it you've seen. Some of it is definitely that. But I don't think it suffers for that. And there's I won't spoil it to people because I know it's not been out very long and people might not have had the time to just blitz the six episodes that I did over the weekend. But is that there's a couple of scenes towards the end

which were, and I'm not making this up, were absolutely almost word for word experiences that I've had with people in my life who shared those similar things, with his dad in the nursing home and all that kind of stuff. I found it so deeply affecting. Honestly, I really did.

It must have just pushed my buttons. I thought it was funny in places as well, but I don't think it set out to be that. I think it set out to be a I think it's set out to be a bit more of a moral treatise really and you're right about the heavy handedness I think

I think more than anything else you can be heavy handed but I think you need I think it's clunky in some of the delivery and it just seems to be an extension of his Twitter page and people have expressed that

that opinion there was a great piece about how the two different directions that Steve Coogan and Ricky Gervais have kind of gone in their careers. Steve Matcher you mean? No, no, Steve Coogan. Oh, Steve Coogan, sorry. And Ricky Gervais have gone in their careers in that Ricky Gervais is kind of a bit of an island.

He does everything himself. He wants to be the star. He wants to write for himself and direct for himself. But the way Coogan has always been collaborative and always kind of relied on other people to pull it through and to kind of help out, I suppose, and give it a more well-rounded experience. And I think he could have done with co-writing with somebody

just because it just seems to be, like a lot of his stuff recently, an extension of you know the anti religious dogma the anti kind of like oh it certainly is that stuff that he's kind of producing on social media

and obviously Coogan's not on social media so it was quite an interesting piece and it was a great parallel to be drawn really that's a really good point I haven't considered that really the Coogan comparison

which obviously is a valid one for me it just felt a bit it felt I haven't considered that Reid the Coogan comparison which obviously is a valid one I for me it just felt a bit it felt I don't know it just spoke to me really he wouldn't he wouldn't be beautifully shot by

the way yeah he wouldn't be judged if he if he took a backseat and you know made it for someone else you know what I

mean like if he wasn't the main character I think it would be a judged a lot harshly I think yeah that's true but I think it's not really being judged that harshly I think it's done judged a lot less harshly yeah that's true but I think

it's not really being judged that harshly I think it's done fairly well and every single person on Twitter that I follow has said that it's

great and really effective and really sad I honestly thought it was absolutely outstanding I'm not trying to tell you you're wrong

or anything obviously opinions are valid but for me it was great I just think with your point about him not being

front and centre I think he's been on record quite regularly saying that his his big influences are like larry david and christopher guest and those kind of guys who sort of do it all and are in the middle of it as well so i think that's the way he wants to go i agree with you about some of the dialogue some of that dialogue in that in the show is is essentially a rehashing of dialogue i've seen him say in interviews and on twitter and all that kind of stuff. So that is absolutely fine. Anyway, look, regardless of all that, it is absolutely worth checking out anyway. Got a nice dog in it.

Lovely dog in it. If you love dogs. It's just universal themes. And I think it's also, it does a really good job, by the way, of taking essentially a really bleak situation and by the end of it making it quite a positive one which i think is is is um is underrated is something that um isn't done very often because people who are funny tend to be cynical and i also agree i was chatting to danny kelly about this last week i agree with him when he said that sentimentality in television and in um comedy and stuff it's

sort of underrepresented and it's a little bit underrated as well because anyone can just tear a house down and be cynical. It takes a lot of bravery to build something up and make it sentimental without being too cheesy and schmaltzy, which I do think he achieves that with Afterlife. Anyway.

I've seen three episodes and I'm looking forward to watching the rest of them. Let us know what you think of it. Anyway, hello at LukeandPeteShow.com. A bit of an impromptu review of that TV series. Let's go for a little break. We'll come back and do some emails

and we'll also squeeze in a quick Mankata as well. So fancy. There we go. We're back. And it's the Luke and Pete Show, part two for a Monday. Look at us. Don't look at Jerry.

Do you mind if they're on the comeback as well? They're going to be playing Wembley Stadium soon, the old spicy G's. Did they? Spicy G's sound like a really bad snack, like a Transformer snack or a Space Raider. It's not a bad snack. Transformer snack and Space Raiders are not bad snacks.

They are budget. They're delicious. They're budget Monster Monster, aren't they, really? They're just vehicles for a load of E-numbers and manufactured artificial ingredients. And a great picture of a kind of

David Bowie kind of character on the front of the Space Raiders. Yes. Did you ever build the little car on Transformers Max? Build. Build's a strong word, isn't it?

Put the wheels on. Put the wheels on. Rudimentary building. Look, Mother, did you ever know anyone who had a kit car back in the day? My CDT teacher

had a car he put together himself. Wow. Which looked very sporty, but I can't imagine the fuel efficiency was up there. No. We used to spend quite a lot of time building go-karts with our dads and our mates' dads and stuff. Were you in the Bino? No, we did, honestly. It's not a thing that we did, but go-karts.

Yeah. So you'd be a thing, you know without being sort of you know too sort of down at heel about it right there was a guy a kid that i grew up in a you know it's similar neighborhood to you so it's terraced houses very small you know it's quite a poor neighborhood and four or five stores down was a kid who had a bought go kart which we just thought was the dog's bollocks it was like an argus one. It had a little number on the front. Yes. And you could pedal it and all the rest of it. But for the rest of us, it just wasn't really an option. So

we would get like, I suppose the big thing you'd get at Christmas would be I don't know, you'd get like a games console or something. And that would be the big present. You'd get wood. Yeah. No, I would get like a games console, but there's no way, if I had that, that was at the behest of something else because there's no way you could have that. So anyway anyway we used to build them

so we had this go cut that we built and it was made out of like a single big block of wood it might have been an old door and we carved like

sort of flanks in it like that and then we had pram wheels on it and then you would steer it with a rope do you remember those? I mean that's a clear

yeah I've seen those before I don't think I ever sat on one. I sat on one of the Argus ones, but the Argus ones were pedal powered, weren't they? Yes. But I guess the go-kart, you just had to find...

Well, you get someone to push you. Kettie car? Did you just call them Kettie cars, maybe? No, I've never heard that before. But with this go-kart, you get someone to push you. So the key was, you'd need like two or three of them

and then you'd race them. We did that, because we had a back alley behind our house. Yes. But more often than not, you would the front wheels would just collapse and just fucking cane it really hurt yourself and um and another tactic we used to employ was we used to um on the on the argus go-kart we used to get our

bmxs and we used to tie like three ropes to the back of three bmxs right tie that to the go-kart someone would sit in the go-kart, and we would just ride as fast as we could, pulling it along, as if we were some sort of like, really like working class Santa's sleigh. And honestly, you'd get it going so fast,

the pedals were going so fast, the guy couldn't put his feet on the pedals, so he'd have to put his feet up. And my overriding memories of those times, which are amazing, were that kind of stuff. And then that punctuated with, God, that was really painful. Yeah.

So I'd really hurt my knee. Danger. Or yeah, you'd absolutely smash yourself on the handlebars of your BMX or something. Anyway, it's email time, Peter. It's email time, Peter. You go first, mate. I'll go first.

Quick one from Terrence Flynn. I don't usually like talking about dreams, but I'm going to do anyway. I'm drunk, says Terrence. This will be the first of many emails. It's a good start. One of which you'll love, but I'm keeping it in the bank for now.

Everyone hates people that describes dreams, eh? I specifically remember you guys saying that. I've always dreamt very vividly and very often. Dreams that are so strange, it's impressive to me when I wake up. I'm impressed! I'm impressed by my own ingenuity. They can also make me unusually emotional,

especially if they're about someone I know. I just want to write this one down to be honest, because it was so funny to me, I don't want to forget it. Last night I had a dream that Paul Scholes and Mary Berry ran a second-hand shop and I found signed Ronaldinho boots on sale for £47, match worn. I bought them, got them out of the shop and realised they were just Nike ID boots,

the type you design online for a ridiculous price. I turn around, Scoles told me to fuck off and threw a steel chair at me. I woke up feeling quite deranged. I had to Google Mary Berry because I didn't know who she was. I vaguely knew the name in the face, but I'd never watched Bake Off. I've never bought anything from a charity shop and I'm a Liverpool fan,

so I don't have a clue where Scalzi came from. Subconsciously, you're a Liverpool-supporting home baker. Cake fan. Yeah. Thanks for that, Terence. Oh, Luke. What? I cleaned my oven last week.

So you got... To within an inch of its life. I saw you sent me a photo. It was spotless. You could see through the front window and everything. I couldn't engage with the photo because it goes against how I imagined you. Yeah. Why did you do yourself

you get one of those packs from the supermarket a specialist yeah a specialist pack yeah it was a lot of chemicals put rubber gloves on because a lot of chemicals

I cannot imagine how many bad chemicals I inhaled but it was just beautiful so what have you cooked since literally nothing

on the hob on the hob or either in the actual thing itself why why have you cleaned it then because it was just disgusting I was sick of looking at it alright literally nothing on the hob on the hob or either in the actual thing itself why why have you cleaned it then because it was just disgusting and I was sick of looking at it

alright and if I'm keeping stuff in there as storage you've changed I don't want to grease it yeah I don't want to grease up my possessions

I'm keeping them on my shoes isn't it they're getting dirty what about this from Luke Jackson who says hi chaps this is about Michael Jordan

and by the way I keep annoyingly and somewhat disturbingly because of everything that's been going on with old Jackson recently

I keep typing Michael Jackson instead of Michael Jordan in my notes right have you seen according to Nielsen Research his album Single Sales

have gone through the roof what like people are buying them yeah since leaving Neverland his sales have gone through the roof they're bangers

people you should Yeah, since leaving Neverland, his sales have gone through the roof. They're bangers. People, yeah. You should, that shames us all, but at the same time, it's some of the greatest pop music that's ever been made. So what do you expect? It's hard to understate how, and I,

Overstate. It's hard to overstate how much of the, how much he was part of the fabric of the 80s and the early 90s. I mean, I don't know another person you could remove from, like David Beckham would be close, but you can't really have a lot of David Beckham because he's a footballer.

And I don't think David Beckham's on the same level. No, no, no, but like in the UK, but I mean, other Spice Girls maybe, I don't know. If you go anywhere in the world, someone would know who Michael Jackson was. I think beyond the very, very remote, you are, and even then, I mean, let's not get into the sort of South Central Island or North Central Island type of people. Of course, that's different.

But that aside, you're not going to find anyone who doesn't know who Michael Jackson is over the age of about what 25 so yeah you're right he's absolutely ridiculous which makes the whole thing even more bizarre but anyway this is this is a whole messy sandwich

which is an email from Luke about Michael Jordan just wanted to bring up an interesting story about the man himself he came through as a college star

in North Carolina and when he got his move to Chicago Bulls he would always wear his college shorts under his Chicago Bulls he would always wear his college shorts under his Chicago Bulls ones. This required baggier shorts to accommodate them

and once his talent became evident this led to everyone wanting to copy the star and the modern baggier short was born. Ah, so they all used to wear like hot pants?

Don't know. When you think of 80s athletes though you think of those little small shorts don't you? I think of in football yeah, I mean they have absolutely disgusting I think of basketball as well. Yeah. You think of those little small shorts, don't you? I think of, in football, yeah. I mean, they have absolutely disgusting

I think of basketball as well. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so he sort of made, like, the longer, baggier shorts kind of popular. Well, that's what Luke Jackson is claiming. Why don't people go back to, like, really small shorts, then?

Short shorts. Yeah, why not? You must have some short ones, though. I've always been a fan of the tight, three-quarter lengthers. Yeah, you have, actually. It's a bad look for you, though. It's a bad look for me, though. Yeah've always been a fan of the tight three-quarter lengthers. Yeah, you have, actually. It's a bad look for you, though. It's a bad look for me, though.

Yeah. I don't really think any sort of... I've got decent calves, though. In 2019, three-quarter lengths, no. Jeans shorts, no. Why? Just don't look good. Why do they not look good?

It's my opinion, mate. You're wearing a woodcutter shirt. Yes. You look like you're in Pearl Jam. In what way is that an insult? I'm just saying that your opinion is null and void Jeremy's fucking place what about this from Alex Lodge

there was a period in the 90s where everyone was yeah Sam Garden Pearl Jam crash test dummies once there was a girl who speaking of 90s

I saw Captain Marvel yesterday good set in the 90s set in the 90s set in the 90s some great tunes I thought it was for a Marvel it's a Marvel thing right

so what you get along with it is a fair amount of you know it just drags you into so much but I've learned to love them I've learned to enjoy them because you just go

right I'm not going to I wish someone would drag me into them you know what I mean because I'm not I will never even Black Panther that's like reviewed so well

I've just never bothered that's brilliant it's not as good as Black Panther but this is this is perfectly enjoyable two hours of perfectly enjoyable fare

you know so that was set in the 90s she lands on earth in like 1995 right it's quite enjoyable

she smashes through the roof of a blockbuster video yeah nice yeah it's a nice touch nice

and there's like a nice touch. Nice. And there's a few little nods to the... Remember those cardboard cutouts of actors, like characters? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's quite a few of them knocking about. Anyway. Remember when Kelly Kapowski, there was a car cutout of her

inside Zack Morris' cupboard? Weird. In Saved by the Bell. That's a bit weird, isn't it? If you had a... How has he even got that made? I know. Seriously, the production of that,

they're not going to do a one-off. It's not going to be worth it for him. I think they would do a one-off. If you went to a printer's, we should get cutouts of people we know. Yeah. But not us. So you've gone from,

isn't that weird to let's do it ourselves? Yeah, I know, but we're grown-ups and we could probably explain it away, but a teenage boy... That's what you need to know. Can you explain it away or not? A teenage boy who was probably in his 30s when he was playing a teenager

having a picture of his schoolmate a sexy schoolmate in the cupboard that he would pull out and go it's problematic but everything's problematic

these days isn't it I'm so excited and I just can't hide it remember when Jesse Spanner goes mad because he's been taking some pet pills

to complete some exam. What, like Pro Plus or whatever? Yeah, and people are going and they're going, stop taking all these pet pills. The exam isn't that important.

She's going, oh, I'm so excited. I think she's singing that. Right. Or, it's my party and I'll dance if I want to or something. You okay?

I've got some pet pills. Alec Lodge emailed in, Peter, saying in episode 148 you talked about furries and being exposed to sanitised versions during childhood. Alec says, I've got three words for you, Pete Donaldson. Cadbury's caramel bunny. Yeah, it's a bit basic, I think, to sort of say you fancy the caramel bunny, though, I think.

He says, you know what I'm talking about? Love the show, Alec. But he's right, though, isn't he? He's right. You know what I'm talking about love the show Alec but he's right though isn't he he's right you know what I'm talking about he's definitely got one foot in that camp hasn't he

yeah Pepe Le Pew's badger is he a badger he's a skunk skunk skunk I'm going to give you TB

they don't that's a myth isn't it a myth I don't know I don't agree with the badger it seems unnecessary this collar is unnecessary have you got any more emails Peter

I've got an email it's Luke Rees has just sent a Wikipedia entry that's n.m.wikipedia.org forward slash wiki forward slash nmclaw underscore

horse underscore sex underscore kiss and I'm not going to go any further on that one quite frankly thank you very much

Peter I think we've got enough time to squeeze in a quick Men Carter let's welcome it back yeah I can't find the Men Carter thing because you've not used it

for such a long time so you're going to have to have this because Men Carter is back just put it in the edit then we can all enjoy it nah

put it in put it in the edit. Then we can all enjoy it. Nah. Put it in now. Let there be justice for all. Let there be peace for all. And one small step for man. You don't understand. Willie was a salesman. Say simply, very simply,

with hope, good morning. I'll make a note of that later. I didn't put it in. What about this, Peter? I think it's worthy of reopening, Ben Carter. I read this story over the weekend on the New Zealand Herald website of all places. A World War II heroine who used her harmless appearance to gain the trust of Nazis before executing them has died in the Netherlands aged 22.

Freddie Overstergen was born in Haarlem near Amsterdam on September 6th, 1925. And she was just 14 when she joined the Dutch resistance. Together with her older sister, Troos, and their friend, Hanny, they blew up bridges and railway tracks with dynamite, smuggled Jewish children out of concentration camps, and executed as many Nazis as they could using a firearm hidden in the basket of her bike. Yeah, I remember this lady. Check out this routine.

She would first approach a Nazi man in a bar and having successfully seduced him asked him if they wanted to go for a stroll in the forest where, as Freddie herself put it, she would liquidate them. We had to do it she said. It was a necessary evil killing those who betrayed the good people. When asked how

many people she had killed or helped killed, she demurred one should not ask a soldier any of that. That is spectacular work. Yeah, crazy, right? She, yeah, she said, she went on to become the national icon of female resistance in Holland.

And her story was told in a film in 1981 called The Girl with the Red Hair. Being in the resistance was a huge source of pride for her. But she said it was very tragic and very difficult. And they cried about it afterwards. It did not suit her, she said. It never suits anybody unless of pride for her. But she said it was very tragic and very difficult, and they cried about it afterwards. It did not suit her, she said. It never suits anybody unless they are real criminals. I lost everything.

It poisons the beautiful things in life. But I just thought, what an interesting story. What an interesting story about someone in a non-traditional way. Now, of course, all needless to say, all killing is bad. But part of the war effort was to kill Nazis. I've got no problem with Nazis being killed in that context. I think it's a fascinating story. What a brave thing to do as well, by the way.

Not a soldier, no training or anything like that. Going in there, talking to actual soldiers, having the bottle and the bravery to seduce them, and then killing them before, to be frank, you get killed yourself, is a remarkable thing. It's risky, but it's very. It's a, yeah, risky and, but it is, I mean, it's very, it's

slow. If you're going to kill all the Nazis. Do one at a time. It's very slow. I don't think

it's a solution to killing them all because in war, clearly, you go one at a time, you're probably going to lose the war.

It makes a great, it would make a great video game. Yes. Wolfenstein 3 should be that. Just selecting the right options. It could be like a dating sim that ends with a walk in the forest.

That takes a turn. That takes a turn. Yeah. There we go. That's a little mini entrant into Mankata to salute what is a remarkable story by a remarkable woman. Because Mankata is very much what two men find interesting, not just about men. to Men Carter to salute what is a remarkable story by a remarkable woman. Because Men Carter is very much

what two men find interesting not just about men. Yes, indeed. Even though men have probably had the monopoly on things. Let's call it

for this episode Women Carter. Women Carter. Thank you. A few days after International Women's Day have some respect. Lovely old job.

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