The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 153: Spring has sprung!

Episode Date: March 25, 2019

Luke's parents' tortoise has proven beyond all reasonable doubt that spring is now well and truly in the air, and on that happy note we get into this episode of The Luke and Pete Show. This time around there's chat about Jordan Peele's new movie Us, a theatre production of A Few Good Men, and of course a few of your emails too.Pete also finds time to inform us all at what point he turned from Straight Edge into the boozer he is today, and bizarrely it involves 90s indie band Gay Dad. To get in touch and have one of your stories read out, hit us up: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

watcha it's the luke and pete show episode one five three that seems like a lot yeah what a body of knowledge we hear from people all the time we sort of get a body of knowledge from other people yeah exactly so little work we have to do we just say what we've done this week we read out some emails what more do you want what more can we give you really exactly if monday we're more of a conduit aren't we for other people's stories monday tube monday yeah exactly monday 24th of march a beautiful day outside today it's lovely i bought myself some um it's quite risky to buy some um prescriptions and glasses online but to knock off 20 quid off the the Vision Express price

I thought I'll I'll get some online yeah because now I've got my prescription yeah because my eyesight as discussed has gotten better

that's good inexplicably yeah you're like a Benjamin Button yeah I'm regenerating like Wolverine and

so I bought them online and so I've been wearing them today do you know how so they're not new glasses are they they're not new frames no yeah sunglasses and so I bought them online and so I've been wearing them today. Do you know how, so they're not new glasses, are they? They're not new frames. No. Yeah, sunglasses.

I might get into those ones that change as it gets sunnier. What are they called? Verifocals. Verifocals. They're, I can't remember now.

Verifocals are the ones that are like short-sighted at the top and long-sighted at the bottom. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. You know spring has sprung because my dad called me

excitedly yesterday saying the tortoise has come out again the tortoise is out has he got a tortoise just in his my parents have got a tortoise in the garden yeah

did they buy it or was it just there my dad ended up buying it about five six years ago alright okay but now obviously I don't think

they hibernate for the first few years but he started to hibernate now and he came out which obviously means that really he's decided

that spring nature has decided that spring is on the way so spring has sprung do they when people say that bears and animals hibernate

they don't sleep for that amount of time do they they just kind of go down no they do they reduce their heart rate right down and they don't move they that amount of time, do they? They just kind of go down? No, they do. They reduce their heart rate right down and they don't move.

They just, they're almost in stasis. That's so cool. Yeah. I wish I could do that. So there's been reports, so the tortoise that emerged yesterday in my parents' garden

is obviously covered in mud and leaves because they're almost essentially underground. But there's been talk that, I don't know if it's actually been observed, but I think there's been evidence observed of bears't know if it's actually been observed but I think there's been evidence observed of bears actually giving birth while in hibernation

really? which is like crazy I know I think I've said before I know they pat their bums with mud do they? so that they don't poop

is that right? yeah weird kind of thing very strange evolution man incredible in bloody credible so according to

I've just got it up here Science Daily the heart rates of pregnant bears which give birth during the winter months increase as the pregnancy progresses but return to hibernation levels after the cubs are born

do they have to look after it if they're still hibernating do they still presumably they would move around a little bit they'd wake up and give birth and look after the baby I don't know how it works

to be honest I mean people should get in touch hello at lukeandpetecher.com if you're an expert in hibernation. Perhaps you've just come out of hibernation yourself.

Any parent who's in bed who gets woken up by, like, they're asleep and their kid's just woken up. You can't get them straight back down.

No. So like, their kid's just come out and go, right, I'm out in the wild, I want to do stuff. And he's like,

a couple of months. If you're a parent who would like to have given birth in a hibernation period get in touch I remember reading about

Lily Allen she was sort of talking about her does she hibernate well she was talking about she's taking Valium and stuff and she used to

to lose weight obviously I had you know a situation there but she was she was basically to lose weight she thought about

or maybe did take lots of valium just to send herself down for a few days lose a load of weight because if you're sleeping you're not eating are you

that's dangerous that is dangerous but I did think at the time that's a bloody good idea that's how my brain works she's thought about that

it's kind of similar to what you do on planes and then when the plane flies finished you're like oh I missed the mail I'm annoyed I feel like

I might have made this up but due to Valium did you not once miss a train stop when we were on tour

once you went to a different carriage and bedded down you wouldn't sit with us no I'm just knackered I like to spread out I feel like you missed a stop though

nah I walk up and somebody was shouting at me that happens quite I like it spread out yeah I feel like you missed the stop though nah I walk up and somebody was shouting at me that happens quite a lot to be honest okay fair enough get up sir

you shouldn't be here sir no this is the civic centre sir those those those homeless spikes are there for a reason shouldn't joke about

homeless spikes it's sickening what a busy weekend in the world of news as well by the way it's been all over the place hasn't it yeah crazy going on

I went on the march briefly oh did you got a Pret-a-Manger did a couple of laps yeah do your bit I'll do my bit but I want expenses

I'll put my noise canceling headphones on and listen to a podcast because to be quite frank it's the whistling it's people with whistles I can't it's

if you want to shout, shout. If you want to play a drum, but whistle are just too shrill and annoying. Even at a protest, I'd find them incredibly annoying. Carnival, fine. Protest, no. Quick call to the accountant to see which exactly of it is tax-deductible and what isn't.

It was actually quite, I felt quite good about the future. It really did make me feel a lot better about things. Because the people that I would... How many pinkos were there? Say again? How many pinkos? How many lefty pinkos?

Yeah. There was a lot of, it made me sort of feel good about the future just simply because a lot of the people who were on the march, I would stereotypically kind of brand as looking a bit gammon, as looking a bit cagoule and all the white men and all the white women. But it turns out that, you know, none of them got to come to London.

Far a bit for me to get political on this show. And I know people don't listen to us for that, so I won't. But just I'll finish this particular bit with a quick question to you, Pete. Can you confirm which was the bigger march? The Leave Means Leave march or the people, the Remain march?

It's hard to tell at this point, I would say. It's hard to tell until everyone's been counted. Remembering, of course, there was only some key Leave Brexiteers who were joining the march and it was very much, it wasn't a mass march, it was an indication of things to come.

It was a shot across the bows is what it was. It was unpopular. Let's be honest. Let's be frank with that. I mean, they didn't get the weather, to be fair. They didn't get the weather. We did get the weather. Listen, as a native of the northeast yourself,

you know how harsh and cruel it can be up there weather-wise. It looked incredible. Your dad once walked from Darlington to Sunderland. Darlington to see him, didn't he? He did, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he walked to prove a point to his mum, was it? Yeah, I think his mum shouted at him, saying, I'm going to walk home.

Yeah, and that's a good five hours. Yeah. He's done well there. When you told me about that, I remember being at home and I looked it up on Google Maps. I thought, okay, it's probably a couple of hours.

How old was he at the time? Young. Young, quite young. Yeah, five hours it was. Yeah, well, back then you could leave your doors open. You wouldn't get kidnapped or nothing. Back then, leaving your doors open

doesn't mean you can transport yourself five hours any quicker, does it? No, but it was safe. Kids could just walk from town to town. I watched the first episode of that. Do you have shoes on? I watched the first

Maddie documentary last night. I've seen that now. And everyone's like, I'm like, why am I watching this? I watched this when it was on. You know what I mean?

I watched everyone accusing Robert Murat of shit. Yeah. I've already seen the first two, but I'm just like, oh God, yeah. Do you know what it is? Did I talk about itat of shit yeah I've already seen the first two but I'm just like oh god yeah do you know what it is did I talk about it

last week no I don't think you did what I would I think I did so I'm not going to go into it again very much but I feel that

as I said at the time I think or at least I said to someone at the time if you're interested in a really good comprehensive look at what

actually happened it's brilliant right it's really well made I don't see how people's brilliant it's really well made I don't see how people can say it's not well made it's fantastic because I've seen a lot

of the criticism saying this is the jump in the shark of the true crime sort of documentary Netflix only because you're so familiar with it

you know what I mean but I wasn't really I don't feel like I knew this case that well so for me it was very interesting but in terms of new leads and new theories

it's not really much there no well that's what I thought I mean I already know how this ends. Like, nobody's found her. Nobody knows where she is. But it was interesting to see how just people thinking a man's a bit creepy or a bit invested

saw Robert Murat accused of this, that, and the other. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Just off a Daily Mail journalist sort of going, don't like that look of him. It was this guy. It was this guy it was this guy and then and his life's ruined forever

yeah yeah I think he eventually got substantial damages from some of the newspapers whatever it was it probably wouldn't have been enough I imagine I tell you something now

some of the misreporting I mean we have to be conscious of this in the work we do but when I watched the episode released which talked about the damages and the reasons why

he received the damages I mean it's dictionary definition libel stuff. I cannot believe in the cold light of day looking back on it that people signed off on those stories. It's absolutely incredible really. When you think about how careful we find ourselves and the conversations we have to have. I mean they're just running roughshod over the whole thing.

But I think they just sort of like it's such a big with such big organs. I don't know who he wouldn't damage his off but I imagine it was just the way my trousers are hanging I imagine it was a fair few tabloid newspapers

but like they've got such scale they've got such money it's almost worth being dickheads because the amount of damages they'll eventually have to pay out is probably less than

it's not punitive enough I agree I went to go and see us over the weekend Jordan Peele's new movie nice very good good yeah I thought it was excellent have you seen Get Out yes I've seen Get Out It's not punitive enough, I agree. I went to go and see Us over the weekend, Jordan Peele's new movie. Nice. Very good.

Good? Yeah, I thought it was excellent. Have you seen Get Out? Yes, I've seen Get Out. Yeah, I thought it was really, really good. I think it had more... He's in it himself, isn't he? The thing that gets me is where it's sort of reported, the contortions that popular media have to make

to not say the word horror movie. Obviously, Jordan P peele's going to be going on to do um the twilight zone and stuff and this sounds quite twilight zony but like people will contort themselves into so many different positions not to say the word this is a horror film go and see it because horror film isn't seen as being you know it's a dark thriller or it's a blah blah blah and it's like just say it's a horror film like and it's a bloody good one and you should go and see it. It might reignite something. It might reignite the horror genre again.

Do you think that's because people who have their films typified as horror movies don't win awards? Yeah. It's the same with comedy to an extent as well. Yeah, massively.

I thought it was brilliant. I thought it was excellent. I'm not a film reviewer or a film expert and so I probably don't have the dexterity to discuss it without giving it away and giving the plot away, so I won't do that.

I'll just say it's fantastic. Lupita Nyong'o is so good. I know she's a brilliant actor, but she's brilliant in it. And because of the way the nature of the film sort of progresses, I hope this isn't a spoiler. I don't think it is because I think you'll see from the trailer. They have to play a variety of different characters. So it's just brilliant.

It's really, really very, very good. It's a really original idea as well. And it's clearly, it's almost got a bit of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of vibe about it. It's got a very psychological edge to it. Some of the imagery.

I'll tell you what Jordan Peele's excellent at. If you think that he's only made, I know he helped I know he collaborated on Black Lander and I've not seen that but his two main features

are Get Out and Us right and they've only been out between them a couple of years really they already seem the imagery already seems iconic and in Get Out

you know remember the stirring of the marg and the picture of the main protagonist whose name I forget looking just terrified in that seat that's an iconic image the image of of main protagonist whose name I forget looking just terrified in that seat

that's an iconic image the image of Lupita Nyong'o with the scissors and the glove in the red overalls I predict that will be an iconic image

for years to come as well it's a fantastic movie you should definitely check it out it's very very good it's fucking terrifying as well

him cutting his teeth in Key and Peele you could tell I was going to ask you about that because you were on that wagon for a while Key and Peele before long of us

like one of the best like it's up there top five I've never seen any of it sketch shows but it played with such like from what I've heard about this this new film

a lot of like the scenes I think Joe on the IGN podcast was talking about he was sort of saying that the the way that some of the

genuinely scary stuff that looks like scary stuff in the trailer is actually parts of the film that some of the genuinely scary stuff that looks like scary stuff in the trailer is actually parts of the film that are played for laughs you know so it's like a mixture

of comedy and to bring that through and to have the confidence to sort of make it funny because horror movies can be a bit one-note and to have

that light and shade it only just accentuates completely agree it accentuates the relief and the comedy accentuates completely agree it accentuates the relief and the comedy and the humour and it accentuates the horror when the horror starts happening

and it's and he they mix that so well in Key and Peele it was so so good if you've never gone back and watched

they're so snackable on YouTube there's some lovely really fun light moments in Us as well which plays into that perfectly. And I think my biggest criticism of,

like I say, I'm not a film expert. I do enjoy watching movies, but my biggest criticism of horror, and I'll take your point about things being described as horror or not. Let's just say for the purposes of this point, this is a horror movie. My biggest criticism of horror

over the last however many years is just that they appear to be a load of quite shocking scenes, almost like violent porn or torture porn, just stitched together. And there's no real, there's nothing really to make you care about the characters. And ultimately,

that's part of the jeopardy of a horror movie, right? You want to care about the characters. If you don't, you don't really get the experience. And I think what Peele does really well is he just makes it so human and so relatable. I found it really, really good.

I'd recommend it heartily. I thought it was fantastic. The scariest parts of anyone's life is when you think you're safe and things just start peeling away until you're like, excuse the phrase, but keep peeling away

until you're like, oh, I don't know at what point I'm supposed to flip out. Get Out was very much like that where it was like things are starting to get really eerie get the keys

get the keys and then she basically says I'm sorry whatever his name is and your whole world just sinks you're like

I'm in big fucking trouble now and I should have said something earlier and it's a very British thing of going should I flip out now should I flip out now

everything's fine Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Oh, fuck. I'm fucked. It's too late. It's just too late to do anything. Yeah.

The element of this movie is the feeling of being hunted down. And in many ways, you know when, I can't remember which philosopher, probably Dolly Parton, Pete, said that,

you know, the anticipation of doing something is in a lot of ways more enjoyable than the act itself. In horror, it's almost a bit like the anticipation of what's about to happen is the worst bit. And if it ramps up and ramps up and ramps up for ages, like half an hour, 40 minutes,

it's almost like that's the most enjoyable part. And anyway, I thought it was really good. I dropped my phone watching A Quiet Place. That's how tense I was. Oh, I haven't seen that. I just very much recommend it. It's just so tense. And again, horror doesn't have to be just schlock.

It doesn't have to be, you know, blood and guts. No. The eeriness and the, not even, just being, you know something, the inevitability of something happening and being unable to prevent it is just, ugh. Yeah, like your own aging. Yeah. Yeah.

Grey beard hairs. Yeah. That own ageing yeah grey beard hairs yeah that's not wrong grey beard hairs mate gallstones gallstones yeah well we'll all get them eventually

shall we take a little break and think about our own mortality that is from my collection of angry airport people it's of particular interest to yours I do Shut up, man. Move from here, sir. All right, you're about to be flying. Forget it. I wasn't flying in the first place. That is from my collection of angry airport people. It's of particular interest to yours. I do, I wouldn't agree. I wasn't going to fly anyway.

Oh, yeah, that's the thing. I wouldn't agree with the aggression, but I love that takeaway. We're taking that away from you. So now you're not flying. Yeah, but I wasn't flying. That's why I'm angry. Yeah, exactly. That's why I'm angry.

I remember going for dinner with my dad once. We went for a walk, and then we stopped somewhere. It wasn't dinner. That's why I'm angry. Yeah, exactly. That's why I'm angry. I remember going for dinner with my dad once. We went for a walk and then we stopped somewhere. It wasn't dinner, it was lunch. And we popped in a decent cafe and ordered some food. And my dad just didn't turn up. So I ate mine.

My dad was like, this is getting ridiculous. Just go somewhere else and I'll grab something on the way home and we'll walk back. All right, fine. So we get up and my dad complains,

which is sort of fair enough. And the woman, the restaurant manager sort of goes, oh, it's all right, I won't charge you for that. So, my dad literally went, I haven't fucking had anything.

Charge me for what? I wasn't even that angry until he'd said that. Yeah, exactly. Fantastic. Now is the part of the show where we traditionally do emails, although having said that,

we don't traditionally spend 10 minutes talking about a movie, but that's the beauty of this show. Pete, you can go anywhere. I've got an idea for a movie and it goes like this. What you've written down there is unacceptable.

It's hello at lukeandpete.com to get in touch about any of the subjects we've talked about over the most recent weeks or, indeed, if you want to bring something entirely new. I've got a great email that I want to do, but it's quite long. So, Pete, I'll defer to you in the first instance, if that's okay with you. Get involved. You want me to do a little one? You go first.

I'll do a little one. Hello to, can't find the name, but it's fine. Ayup. You mentioned the, oh, somebody from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA, apparently. Ayup. You mentioned the mini versions of Ant and Dick being shouted at by an actor in the last episode of Luke and Pete show. I remember this story and it was

actually Bruce Willis who had a go at them. Apparently he got upset with their cheeky questions. They apparently said that he was a

grumpy old man and Willis made the two young'uns cry or nearly made the two young'uns cry. The actual Ant and Dick had to intervene and the interview

was scrapped. Bruce you're not coming out of that with any sort of credit really are you? Bruce's reputation has been a bit like

that? Juicy Brucey? Hard ass. I don't know. I think those kind of Soho hotels junkets Bruce you're not coming out of that with any sort of credit really are you Bruce's reputation has been a bit like that juicy Brucey but I'm a hard ass I don't know I think those kind of Soho hotels junkets can wear a bit thin

anyone into a monster yeah wear a bit thin especially like the big stars they're like I shouldn't have to do this but you do though because you've got to sell the movie it's all contractual

Christian Bale never does them I remember when was the last time you saw him in subdued lighting next to a logo of his own film McGee are you going to deal with this them I remember when was the last time you saw him in subdued lighting next to a logo of his own film McG are you going to

deal with this prick I remember that so you mean he gets it written in his contract he doesn't have to deal with the press I think that's

how it works it must be all dependent on how many points on the dolly you get and shit like that it's all tied up but yeah

the actors fucking hate doing them I had a I wouldn't say a difficult one but Aidan Gillen on Friday, Littlefinger from Game of Thrones. Did you ask him about his accent

in Game of Thrones? Because it is absolutely baffling. Well, he sort of gets more Irish. Yeah, floats around a lot. More Irish. Yeah, he wouldn't talk about that. His American accent's pretty good. He's Tommy in...

He's very good in Tommy Calcutta in The Wire, yeah. Because there's three, there's three main guys in The Wire that don't have a natural American accent right Idris Elba Aidan Gillen

and Dominic West and Dominic West is by far the worst he drops out of it all the time do you think Big Trist never drops out of his and nor does Aidan Gillen

I think if you go I think if you went I've gone back actually and watched The Wire and you watch Idris Elba's accent it's not as good as you remember because I think if you went, I've gone back actually and watched The Wire and you watch Idris Elba's accent, it's not as good as you remember. Because I think,

because I think. I watched the first three seasons about a year and a half ago and I didn't think it was that bad. I might be wrong. The pull back and reveal of, I went to see a mate doing A Few Good Men

in Tring. Oh yeah. It was really good. It was beautifully put together. Like really, really good show. This was a theatre production. Yeah. And I'd never seen the film so I was like

this is this story's great I love this because Aaron Sorkin but like having because there's no mics having to project

like the difference between like doing an accent for cinema or television you don't really you can actually sort of do it kind of quietly

you can't do that on stage you've got to project you've got to deliver really complex dialogue in Aaron Sorkin's case. And you've also got to do an accent as well. And my mate Sarah, she did it. She's an actor. But a lot of them just didn't bother.

Tom Cruise's character didn't bother. And there's a lot more in projection than just shouting as well. Yeah. Because a top actor on the stage would be able to project a whisper really well, for example. So the guy who played Tom Cruise and the guy who played Jack Nicholson's character,

in the iconic moment, the Tom Cruise character is shouting more. And so when he delivers the line, you can look to him, which he really does project well, and he's a great actor. He really does smash it out of the park. But Tom Cruise sounds

too shouty because he's not projecting he's shouting you know what I mean so it's kind of you're right you can't just project

you can't project a whisper yeah but it was very well done would you recommend is it still playing I'm recommending no they only did like four

four shows imagine like having to practice and rehearse like for months and months and months and then you just do three I'd be so nervous I'd wet myself

I'd like we'd get nervous of doing the ramble do we get nervous of doing the ramble do you get nervous before doing live ramble shows no get drunk

you can't do that on stage unless you're so John Gielgud I used to get very nervous but it's not so bad these days

anyway email from Rob this is quite a long one so bear with me but it is very good he says

hi gents I wanted to get in touch with a story that felt like it was right up your alley. I'm also surprised

it has not been a thread to pick and unravel at the show before. The topic is school trips that went badly wrong. Now, we did talk a bit about school trips way back in the day,

Stubbington Study Centre and all the rest of it. But Rob says, when he was in year nine, he says, my old boys, Bournemouth-based secondary school

decided to do an overseas residential trip. Despite having only been taught French at school, we were of course offered a week-long trip to Spain. About 50 of us, bags of preprovescent hormones, signed up for it and come the day, we all piled onto a coach for a 35-hour journey.

It's just a coach I just can't handle. I did the coach to Switzerland as a kid. Yeah, we did it to Belgium and Ostend ferry. Anyway, Rob picks up the story by saying, of course, someone threw up in the first hour, which created a domino effect as the smell of chunder wafted through the upstairs of the coach.

35 hours is a long time to keep 50 boys together. And not being the friendliest bunch, going to sleep came with its perils. Someone had their eyebrows burnt off. Someone's shoe got put in the coach's toilet. And of course, a lot of farting on faces, etc. The scene was so typically teenage British. You're only going to get pink eye.

Anyway, we eventually stumbled out of the coach into the blistering heat of the Spanish summer. If my memory serves, temperatures got into around 39, 40 degrees. The first stop was fine. We saw the Gaudi Cathedral, had an amazing tour of the Camp Nou, so I guess they're in Barcelona.

It was in this part of the trip that I got hit by a van. I was okay though and chased by an angry street performer. But it wasn't until the next stop that things got interesting.

We moved on from Barcelona to a beach area of the Costa Brava and by this time we were very settled into behaving like dicks trying to sneak booze whenever we could

and having loaded up on BB guns and pellets. You can see where this is going, Pete. Anybody got a ninja star? Yeah. Rob says, I think I should come clean and say that I was not one of the cool kids. Far from it.

But everything that I say next definitely happened despite me only being personally involved in a few bits. I did witness most of it. We spent the first few days of the trip between our balconies and the beach. On the balconies, we had BB gunfights. It was carnage, every room for themselves, firing metal BB pellets across balconies, bruising each other,

and absolutely destroying furniture and the flimsy white plastic boarding that separated each balcony. By the end of it, the previously solid balconies barriers looked more like chain-link fencing. Each day, the teachers would visit bedrooms looking for stashes of guns and booze, but we were all too smart for that, using ventilation shafts to hide stuff in. I mean, imagine that. I mean, visit bedrooms, what are you doing now?

I'm going to look for booze and gun stashes. Once shooting each other became boring or the bruises hurt a bit too much, we all started to disperse and by day three of this section, most of us were out and about in town. The vast majority of us found a bar that would serve anyone at all. How old were these kids?

Incredible. Did he say year nine? Yeah. Year nine, so 14. Jeez. Yeah. He said, yeah,

and we started to find, to go out and about in town and we found a bar that would serve anyone. Once suitably pissed they went to the local moped hiring company

and rented a moped each. You can probably see where this is going, but you may not see the end of the story coming. After a little while, predictably the boys crashed and scraped the mopeds

and predictably the boys didn't feel the need to come clean to the moped hirers either. What they did was leave them near the shop and go back to the hotel, nursing scraped knees

and shitting themselves about it. The owners of the mopeds, upon discovering their wrecked bikes, told their own teenage sons. The teenage sons went to the hotel that the school was staying at and, armed with

motorbike helmets and pepper spray, exacted their revenge on anyone from our school they came across before leaving. It's just like Gamora. When is Gamora, man? I returned from the beach to the hotel lobby, which looked like a set from a Tarantino film. There was broken furniture, blood on the tile floor, war-weary receptionist, and lingering pepper spray in the air.

Unsurprisingly, an emergency meeting was called that night, as I'm sure a few parents were too. I know we were threatened with an early return, but I don't think we did go home early and no more trouble was caused. Needless to say, our school didn't go back to Spain again, and year nine didn't do any more abroad residentials. I'm now a primary school teacher,

and I'm glad that mine are a bit too young to get up to any of that. All the best. Keep up the good work, Rob. School trip turns into Gomorrah, basically. That is incredible, isn't it? That seems pretty extreme. I don't know. The thing with the moped, I don't understand, because the moped owners

presumably have no legal recourse after they've pepper-spread some children. Theyoped owners presumably have no legal recourse after they've pepper sprayed some children. They probably don't have any legal recourse or anything about the children anyway. Well could they not just

oh yeah I guess yeah they've mugged themselves off there. So I did two school trips one to Switzerland one to Belgium. By that comparison they were both very tame.

I remember in Belgium us going out and getting beers and sneaking back to our rooms. But that was really as much as it went. I didn't like drinking

then, so everyone was drinking and I was like, I'm not. Me and Jonathan Hanlon decided that we weren't going to drink. You were straight edge back then, weren't you? Yeah, that we'd stick together as the non-drinkers and stuff. But it really annoyed me that no one seemed to get in trouble. But then I sort of noticed that Mr. Braithwaite

and a couple of others, I shouldn't really name them we're also a bit boozy on the night they told them off so i was like yeah i don't think they really care either no i could have been on the old sauce but would you care though if you were a teacher in that situation would you know what nothing got broken no one got hurt exactly exactly it's not your body it's not why why would you care i don't know why they do school trips, to be quite frank. It doesn't enrich anyone's lives. At that scale, why do they bother? So the thing was,

when I went to the Belgium trip, it was to go see the battlefields. It was part of a history tour, right? So you do learn stuff. Ostensibly, you do learn stuff. So we went to Ypres and all that kind of stuff. Ostend? Yeah, Ostend, this believe me.

But Switzerland, it was literally just to go there for a week. There was no formal education part of the trip. There was no reason for it. It probably cost my mum and dad a lot of money they couldn't afford. It was pointless. Yeah.

Absolutely pointless. I think we were on a cable car up a mountain. Great. It's similar to Belgium and Holland for us. We didn't really sort of do anything. So how old were you when you first started drinking? I think I was like 17. But I was in nightclubs at like 16.

But you wouldn't drink? But I wouldn't drink until about 17 and a half, maybe. What was the trigger event that made you change? Gay Dad and Manson. Sorry, the band Gay Dad or A Gay Dad? The band Gay Dad and Manson. We went to Middlesbrough Town Hall to watch them play. So I always say my first band I ever saw was Manson.

It wasn't, it was Gay Dad. It was literally Gay Dad. Yeah, I just started drinking Newcastle Brown. It's a hard drink to start with. I hadn't discovered Stella Artois at that point. Yeah, I don't think anyone really likes a taste of that when they first start. My first...

Reef. Big Reef fan back in the day. Oh, listen... A very easy drinker. Speaking of Reef the drink, my first band that I went to go see with my mates was Reef. Yeah. At the Rivermead Centre in Reading.

Nice. But I went with my dad to see B.B. King when I was about 13. Ah, fuck off. Yeah, I don't claim that because it's too cool. It's too cool. It's at the Rich Cinema in Gosport. But really, I think I was probably dragged along there. Although I like to look back on it and say how cool I was. I probably dragged along there although I like to look back

on it and say how cool I was I probably had no interest at all but yeah Reef and then I think it was funny because I'd never been to a gig with my friends I went to go see Reef

and the following week I went to go and see Bush at Southampton Guildhall I loved Bush back in the day they were like a poor man's Nirvana Razorblade suitcase yeah that was their big album

their album before that was 16 stone I loved them anyway hello at lukeandpeach.com to get in touch we've got loads of emails I only managed

to get through a couple because that one was particularly long we'll pick up some more on Thursday have a lovely week you guys make the most of the

good weather while it's there have you ever been pepper sprayed yeah I haven't have you no I remember seeing on

there's a documentary I watched on Netflix recently where there's a documentary i watched on netflix recently where there was a woman an asian woman i think or a mixed race woman who went to go and hang out with some neo-nazis in the u.s to try and understand them that kind of stuff that louis theroux sometimes does and um at one point they were practicing getting pepper sprayed in the eyes so they could get used to it yeah and after a while they were like i'm not doing this my eyes have just kind of dried up you don't really get used to it and after a while they were like I'm not doing this it's fucking ridiculous my eyes have just

gone and dried up you don't really get used to it you just go blind so we're just going to stop that but anyway hello at lukeandpetech.com to get in touch

we'll see you on Thursday have a great week Peter that's the wrong jingle don't worry about it that's the ramble it doesn't matter people recognise us

from the ramble as well it's fine there we go there we go keep moving the buttons around go keep moving the buttons around I keep moving the buttons around no one touches it apart from you

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