The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 165: What is your location?

Episode Date: May 6, 2019

Hi all! It's a bank holiday but that doesn't mean the hustle stops for your two eponymous heroes. No sir. Luke and Pete are back in the studio and discussing, among other things, a row they had this m...orning, how radio schedules are populated at Christmas, and what it's like in a hot air balloon.Elsewhere, there's an ingenious new system invented for how to tell someone your location, we hear of another school trip gone badly wrong, The Elephant Man, and plenty more. *** THERE IS A SMALL GAME OF THRONES SPOILER IN THIS EPISODE ***To get in touch, it's: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you're having girl problems probably talk to somebody we don't feel bad for you because I mean you know you could be to
Starting point is 00:00:15 blame I think if you're going through the mill for whatever reason I feel bad for you I've got empathy I've got empathy
Starting point is 00:00:21 for you I've got MPEGs Have you been pretty good Bank Holiday No one's going to listen to this shit show are they They might listen empathy. I've got empathy for you. I've got MPEGs. How have you been, Luke? Pretty good. Bank holiday today, isn't it? Bank holiday, yeah. No one's going to listen to this shit show, are they? They might listen to it tomorrow morning. If you're listening to it tomorrow morning, I hope you're enjoying
Starting point is 00:00:33 your slightly shorter week. But you know what? We've recorded a couple of podcasts today. We've done a photo shoot. I'm off to go and do a radio show. Work, you know, the bank holidays don't apply to us freelancers, do they? World keeps turning. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:00:47 The big wheel keep on turning. I actually quite like being in London when it's a bank holiday because it's so quiet and peaceful. You know what? I was up at six this morning for the aforementioned commitment. And as I left the house
Starting point is 00:00:58 and I walked down towards the bus stop, no train today. Right. Annoying. Anyway, it was actually really nice. It was a beautiful sunny day, pleasant. And Iing. Anyway, it was actually really nice. It was a beautiful sunny day, pleasant and I thought this is
Starting point is 00:01:07 actually a really nice place, this is a really nice time to be around in London. I like it. I enjoy it immensely. I'd like to sort of experience London on
Starting point is 00:01:16 Christmas Day. I've never done that. I don't think I have either. Because it would be a bit depressing living in the old common street on
Starting point is 00:01:22 Christmas Day. Do you pre-rec your shows at Christmas then? I don't do a lot of pre-recs to be honest if there's like a special at the Isle of Wight special
Starting point is 00:01:30 or something where we interview the boss of Isle of Wight that'll go out on Christmas day but obviously that has to be pre-recorded because you've got guests
Starting point is 00:01:35 but they don't so I always assume so when I'm helping my mum make their Christmas lunch and you've got the radio on I always assume
Starting point is 00:01:42 they're pre-rec'd BBC do a lot of pre-wrecks a lot of pre-wrecks more than you'd expect as well especially when you've got a big star that's why I never understand why big radio stations
Starting point is 00:01:51 I think Heart have just taken on a woman out of Britain's Got Talent I couldn't tell you she's on Britain's Got Talent the panel
Starting point is 00:01:58 oh Alicia no not her the woman Amanda Holden yes we used to go out with that man. Amanda Holden.
Starting point is 00:02:06 They've just signed her up. And I just thought, she's going to take so much holiday. Yeah. And she'll be on... She's on like three million quid and she'll be on loads of holidays. People listening won't...
Starting point is 00:02:16 And everyone else will have to pick up the slack. People listening to this won't realise that there is beef with what... from so-called proper radio people to celebrities just being parachuted into a radio show. Yeah, but they get a bit of razzle-dazzle that radio presenters obviously don't. I don't have a problem with it at all,
Starting point is 00:02:32 but I have a problem when they don't present their shows. Yeah, do what you're supposed to do. That is annoying. TalkSport fell foul of it with one or two people before, and I'm pretty sure that the BBC have struggled as well on occasion because they think, that guy'll be great, and I'm pretty sure that the BBC have struggled as well, on occasion, because they think, that guy'll be great! And he necessarily isn't great,
Starting point is 00:02:49 because he doesn't put the commitment in, like you and I, Pete. We're here on a bank holiday. Yeah. We're doing it. Well, Matt Lucas did Radio 2 cover quite a lot over the past few weeks, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:02:59 I don't think he's that good, unfortunately. Really? Oh, you didn't like his stuff? Yeah, you'd think he'd be very good, but... I don't have Radio 2 as one of my presets, so I'll never listen. I like a bit of Popmaster. Popmaster!
Starting point is 00:03:10 My radio, that was quite good. My radio presets. Let's talk about radio presets. Radio presets. Talk Sport, obviously. Five Live. Six Music. Yep.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Radio 4. Right. Classic. Yep. And what's the other one? There's six. Oh, absolutely Radio 90s, of course.'s six oh Absolute Radio 90s of course
Starting point is 00:03:25 Pete Dawson yeah no I do I do actually listen to that do you listen on your FM radio yeah no I don't I've got a digital radio
Starting point is 00:03:33 is it on FM no are you trying to catch me out there no no I haven't got an FM who has an FM radio these days hey why not listen to
Starting point is 00:03:39 Absolute Radio on your smart speaker could do yeah could do that a lot of that Peter why don't you tell everyone listening about the row we had earlier the row do you want Could do that. A lot of that. Peter, why don't you tell everyone listening
Starting point is 00:03:45 about the row we had earlier? The row? Do you want to do that? Because that would have repercussions, you said. No, but maybe we should talk...
Starting point is 00:03:53 No, no, we don't have to talk about exactly what it was about. Right. But we can talk about the fact that we had a row. Right, okay. I think people will
Starting point is 00:03:59 find it interesting. I don't know how we'd have the argument or explain the argument without you being annoyed by listeners doing certain things. He's supposed to be a broadcaster, mate. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:04:09 We're working out. We had a disagreement. Use an analogy. Yeah? Right. Car. I've come into the garage with a car and you're fixing my car. And it's full of spoilers.
Starting point is 00:04:19 There's too many spoilers on this. Yeah. No. I think that sometimes you're... We haven't got to go down the road of spoilers because it's not about that necessarily, but I think sometimes
Starting point is 00:04:27 you get very effusive in your interest in certain, how can I put this, certain things to do with tech. And I know you're going to say this doesn't
Starting point is 00:04:38 count towards tech, but it does. It doesn't count towards tech. It does because it's a mistake made in the production which is kind of techy. It's already obvious. Everyone's going to be talking about it now.
Starting point is 00:04:45 By the time this comes out, I would have already seen it. All right, well, let's talk about it properly then. All right, go on then. All right, Game of Thrones. There was a fucking Starbucks cup in a scene with Daenerys Targaryen. It's just in shot. It might turn out to be a legitimate Game of Thrones-ian time space drinking implement, but it doesn't fucking look like it.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It looks like a cup from Starbucks and I early on when we were doing the photo shoot I saw a screen capture and I was like
Starting point is 00:05:12 that's pretty funny here look at this and they went oh okay cool and then about an hour later there was actually
Starting point is 00:05:18 a video of it in the scene so it wasn't a photoshop because I thought it might be a photoshop someone was just playing the giddy goose and sure enough it's in the shot and I showed it to you and you got um in my opinion
Starting point is 00:05:29 unreasonably angry about it i saw vision i saw movement movement i saw that movement i saw something that we we crossed from the territory of a grainy little screenshot right it means nothing to me yeah to video movement on your screen and I think I was making the fairly reasonable point, which is that I haven't seen the episode yet. I don't want to see anything. We'll talk about it on Thursday, which is what I said to you at the time. Happy to talk about it on Thursday. And I think that you also went over the top and you were quite mean to me.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I wasn't quite mean to you. I just said it's your refusal to even compromise on anything I thought was uncharacteristically childish from you. No, characteristically childish. No, no, no, no. No, you're never childish. But it's a show about dragons
Starting point is 00:06:15 and I wasn't showing you. I'm still up to the same point as you are so I knew there was no spoilers in there. It was a scene with Nerys Tangerian. Stop saying it. Stop saying it. The tall ginger boy. He's getting my back up. And Jon Snow and there. It was a scene with Daenerys Targaryen. Stop saying it. Stop saying it. A tall ginger boy.
Starting point is 00:06:26 He's getting my back up. And Jon Snow. And they're just in the scene together. Yeah. Which we know they're alive from the last episode. Apologies, spoilers. And it was just showing you that it was genuinely in the show and it wasn't a Photoshop.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So we got no comeback from the stuff we talked about last week because we were quite vague. We talked about tech spec and soundtrack. Yeah, it was quite dull. Sorry, guys. Are we going to get away with what you've just said there in case people haven't caught up on the whole series yet? Because I do think there should be a cut-off.
Starting point is 00:06:53 If we're going to talk about The Sopranos or Breaking Bad, that's fine. But people might not have actually seen last week's yet. So I think you should bleep that. I think if anyone's got a bit of a hair trigger about Game of Thrones, they will have, yeah, they will have only watched it anyway. But on the off-chance they haven't, as soon as we started mentioning Game of Thrones, they will have they will have only watched it anyway but on the off chance they haven't as soon as we started
Starting point is 00:07:06 mentioning Game of Thrones they will have forward forward forward so my conscience is clear my conscience to be honest I am because I'm a man
Starting point is 00:07:14 who kind of ruminates on things and I I like to sort of leave I leave everything out on the pitch when it comes to arguments
Starting point is 00:07:23 so I usually that is very true so I usually after a very true so I usually after a while I kind of like think about it a bit and like who's been wrong and you know
Starting point is 00:07:29 this and that on this occasion my conscience was clear because there were no spoilers in the frame so this is the elaborate way where you said
Starting point is 00:07:37 you were right on the lot massively right massively right I thought you might say that it's rare that I come to that conclusion though Luke there's a lot of times I just sort of go
Starting point is 00:07:44 fair dues yeah yeah fair dues how do you feel when you have an argument with me how do you feel about it do you say that it's rare that I come to that conclusion though Luke there's a lot of times I just sort of go fair dues yeah fair dues how do you feel when you have an argument with me how do you feel about it do you feel like it's well what usually happens is we both get a bit heated
Starting point is 00:07:53 you go how many annoyed zombies are you do you stay here which is at the point that I know you've lost no because you go over the top that's why
Starting point is 00:08:00 you throw your whole you just said it yourself you leave it out on the pitch I agree you leave it I've never known anyone to go so head first
Starting point is 00:08:09 10 out of 10 throw their heart and soul into a round yeah and that's done isn't it about whatever it is yeah no I disagree I'm a lot more
Starting point is 00:08:17 reserved than I used to be but I'm passionate about the subject that I'm talking about tech I'm just you know passionate about tech passionate about
Starting point is 00:08:24 the amount of arguments you've had about bloody wires, especially when it's in my wheelhouse, where I house. Your wire house, yeah. My wire house. Did you see, by the way, changing trains completely, did you see that they found the grave
Starting point is 00:08:34 of the Elephant Man this week? Yes. I didn't really... Well, they found... It's where they kept the soft tissue, which I found fascinating. Yeah. I didn't really get that.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Well, they removed the skeleton to show it off in the whatever museum the elephant man's bones are the honeycombed bone head thing because he asphyxiated himself
Starting point is 00:08:52 didn't he he sort of died because of the weight of his own head apparently yeah which is fascinating which that's probably how I got the weight
Starting point is 00:08:58 of my own thoughts I thought it was I thought initially because when I saw the article I thought it was it was found in Leicester I was like how many more
Starting point is 00:09:04 mad famous things have been found in Leicester? But it wasn't. It was found in London, I think. They just trimmed off the soft tissue and just put that in the grave. It's really sad. Well, it is really sad, but why bother even just burying a bit of old skin? There's talk of unveiling plans for a memorial in his hometown of Leicester.
Starting point is 00:09:27 It's just hard that they'd, it's amazing that they'd kind of managed to track it down on the plot. Yeah. Very interesting. And there was another,
Starting point is 00:09:33 also another story that caught my eye was a guy who had already found £145,000 worth of Anglo-Saxon treasure. It's about 800 years old. It was a pendant. He's about 800 years old. There's a pendant.
Starting point is 00:09:46 He also has found something else, which apparently is just as valuable in Norfolk or somewhere in Norfolk. The brooch man. He found a brooch, didn't he? And it was, yeah, beautiful, beautiful bit of work. I love the idea of metal detecting. We've talked about it with detectorists before,
Starting point is 00:10:02 which he didn't really like that much, but I love it. He didn't like a farmer just turn over his ground. Just for it to be so close to the surface is just fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. I find it all fascinating.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I think it's fairly common to go to some of the places where some of the US Civil War battles are held and apparently it's just like musket balls everywhere.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Everywhere. That's amazing. What happens when you find something like that? Is it finding like ambergris you've got to sneak it out of the country and not tell anyone about it?
Starting point is 00:10:29 No, I think you have to give half to the landowner and you get to keep half yourself. Oh, piss off. You're not digging up, is he? He owns it. It's literally his land.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I'll just kick it down the street a bit. What, that? Yeah. Found it in Tesco's. That just blew over here. It was actually over there. But you have to get
Starting point is 00:10:44 permission from the landowner to actually do it anyway. That's like over here. It was actually over there. But you have to get permission from the landowner to actually do it anyway. That's like balloonists. Have you ever been in a hot air balloon? I have a very, very fond memory. I was quite annoyed about it at the time. But I have a very fond memory of chasing my granddad around. Have I told you this?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Was he in a hot air balloon? Yeah. What? Hang on. He was in a hot air balloon and he was floating around. So my granddad really wanted to go into a hot air balloon. Is this up? Is this the plot of up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:08 No, and he really wanted to go in a hot air balloon. I think it was probably for his, maybe his 70th. Right. And so he's 87 now. So yeah, that sounds about right. So it was 70th. And my nan wasn't able to drive. So she said, they said, look, my nan said,
Starting point is 00:11:24 I've bought your grandad a trip in a hot air balloon for his birthday he's always wanted to do it we've got to drive up somewhere to where it takes off fine will you drive us
Starting point is 00:11:31 yeah drive him down there fine and then when they had the briefing and they went to go in the hot air balloon the guy running it was like oh by the way
Starting point is 00:11:38 we don't really know where we're going to land so we'll let you know he's like right okay brilliant so we end up having to drive all the way through the countryside
Starting point is 00:11:45 trying to find them again because it landed about 15 miles away it's chaos it's absolute chaos but anyway what were you going to say well when you land
Starting point is 00:11:52 you've got to give the you invariably give the farmer a bottle of whiskey so the guy's always got like a bottle of whiskey on him because I mean you don't really if you land in like
Starting point is 00:11:59 a lot of crops that's going to be that's the tradition it's fucking annoying that's the tradition yeah you carry a bottle of whiskey with you and you hand it over to the landowner.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Right, so you've ruined my entire field of wheat. Well, it's not the entire field. It's the harvest. Well, it depends on the landing, mate. It depends on the landing. But you have actually got a bottle of whiskey to make up for it. Yeah, incredible.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Have you ever been in one? I guess I have, and that's how I know that story. How did it go? I don't know. It was very peaceful, because obviously you can't hear without the burners. I thought that.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I thought it might be really nice. Very, very peaceful. But I find the whole thing very, very fascinating. Just the fact that it's just in a van, and they just drive it there, and then you just float around for a bit. I find anything like that, is it gyrocopters and stuff like that?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Those one-man helicopters you can buy and stuff, and they're like... Oh, I can see you in one of those. But they're four grand or something. And you just kind of just go up and, I mean, I wouldn't trust them, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:48 just four grand, you build it yourself, or eight grand built, and you go up, these little quadcopters. But because they're so not powerful, you don't necessarily have to have a pilot's license for it, which I find fascinating.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I can see you in one of those. I don't trust helicopters generally anyway. No, they don't look you know Laura Woods I do a show with on TalkSport she does obviously Sky Sports
Starting point is 00:13:10 and she was she was I forget I'm going to say that she was doing a game in in Liverpool
Starting point is 00:13:18 I think she was supposed to be doing a game in London the next day or somewhere else anyway and she was talking to a couple of the guys London the next day or somewhere else anyway. And she was talking to a couple of the guys who she was working with or someone who's running things over there
Starting point is 00:13:30 saying that she's got to get a train. And the guy was like, oh, there's a helicopter going that way. You just jump in it. And she got a lift in the helicopter. I think I'd be too scared. I think if you are, if you've had one before,
Starting point is 00:13:40 I think if you are like a multimillionaire and that's how you get around places. Get used to it. You just don't get used to it. It's like getting in a plane. A lot of people just won't get in planes for that reason. Well, I can see you in a one-man gyrocopter that you run yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I can definitely see you. If you were knocking about 200 years ago, you'd be a crazy inventor, I think. Yeah. You've got that mind. There's that meme of a man going back to medieval times and him going and him going
Starting point is 00:14:06 tell us more about this magical invention that's called electricity where do you get it from and the guy from 2019 is going I don't fucking know
Starting point is 00:14:15 yeah I don't know yes yeah I saw that you go back I wish I could go back to ancient times and be like an absolute legend how does electricity work
Starting point is 00:14:23 don't know no here's a song that I've half remembered from the band Radiohead. Yeah. What? So you're saying you're an amazing singer-songwriter? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And in my mind, I'm going, Beatles. Do a Beatles song. Do a song. Can't really think of one, really. Do your first two or three bars of Imagine on the piano. Classic. All right, Peter, let's have a little break, and when we come back, we'll do a couple of emails.
Starting point is 00:14:42 All right, then. I've got to press this button, haven't I? Huh? How the f*** is it called Easy Jet, then. I've got to press this button, haven't I? Huh? How the f*** is it called EasyJet, then? If you want to make a point... Shut up, man. Move from here, sir. All right, you're about to be flying.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Forget it. I wasn't flying in the first place. I forgot him. I don't agree with swearing to people like that in an aggressive way, but he has got a point. He has got a point. Julian Assange there.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Julian Assange. Hello at Luke and Pete Show. Hello at thelukeandpeetshow.com. What is it? Hello at Luke and Pete show. Hello at the Luke and Pete show.com. Oh, is it? Hello at Luke and Pete show. It is, isn't it? Hello at Luke and Pete show.com. It's the email address
Starting point is 00:15:09 to get in touch with us. We've had lots of really good emails, actually, but we're always keen to hear more. Yes. I've got one coming up here from a marine biologist who's taken issue,
Starting point is 00:15:20 shall we say, with some of our chat about dolphins and their intelligence levels. Uh-oh. But I'll do that in a minute why don't you go first Peter alright I thought you were
Starting point is 00:15:28 going to go first so I had a burp brewing our listeners will be used to it don't they that might come out at some point Peter Walker hello Peter
Starting point is 00:15:35 dear little Pete long time listener first time emailer I like people who have emailed for the first time love the show thank you and have told friends
Starting point is 00:15:42 to wrap their ears around the podcast one is a big fan the other claims to listen yet only nods along if content comes up in conversation. I like that.
Starting point is 00:15:49 A bluff in his ticket. It was like when I was four years old and pretended that I'd watch Robocop. I hadn't. I told you about getting scared
Starting point is 00:15:55 watching Robocop last week. Spookies. Did you watch that video with the guns and the balls? No. No. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Sometimes I switch off when you talk about that kind of stuff. I think that's not really my cup of tea, you know? The reason I'm writing is an incident involving
Starting point is 00:16:10 the two friends in question which has triggered a phobia in my similar to Pete's rolling of the ankle which I think is a sentence. When we were teens we would often spend
Starting point is 00:16:18 weekends in our friend's back garden with a mix of industrial ciders such as White Lightning, Frosty Jacks and Economy Vodka. So can I just say just to cut
Starting point is 00:16:25 in industrial strength cider when you're a teenager white lightning get it what the other ones these reads there frosty jacks yeah remember that one we had one called graphite
Starting point is 00:16:36 graphite and i've never heard anyone else mention that i'll put lead in your pencil we had the threshers on the corner of the broadway shopping center it's not a shopping centre.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It was about five shops. At the top of my road, used to sell cider for like a quid. Right. And it was called graphite. Graphite. And I've never seen it before or since. And I'm sure I'm not making up.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So if you're out there and you're around my age or whatever age you are, if you know of a cheap industrial strength cider called graphite, get in touch. Hello at lukeandpreacher.com. It's now graphene
Starting point is 00:17:04 because everyone talks about Graphine now no one talks about Graphite anymore it's far easier to digest the make up's
Starting point is 00:17:10 far more simple Graphite cider did you ever have that no I was never a big cider drinker to be honest oh you didn't drink to you about 19
Starting point is 00:17:16 yeah and little stubby beers was my first kind of Alsace beer Alsace that's what it was called where the Alsatians come from yes when we were teens we would often spend weekends in the back bringing booze Alsace? That's what it was called? Where the Alsatians come from. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:25 When we were teens, we would often spend weekends in the back of our car and bring booze. Activities would involve climbing over the back garden fence onto the back of a golf course, playing knock and run. Often we would remove forced sales signs under the cover of night
Starting point is 00:17:36 and reassign them to random houses in an attempt to cause confusion in the house next morning. Yeah, like that. Basically, we were little shits. Nothing damaging, but shits nonetheless. One night we thought we would have a quiet evening and just get smashed in the house next morning. Yeah, like that. Basically, we were little shits. Nothing damaging, but shits nonetheless. One night we thought we would have a quiet evening and just get smashed in the back garden with some music and drinks.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Now the garden, although being quite small, did have an extremely large amount of animal droppings. Should I mention the friend had three dogs and rarely cleaned up a regular-sized trampoline and a small little corner pond and rockery. After many pints of said cider and a few shots of vodka, one of the two bet that the other wouldn't be able to weave around the droppings on a bike without touching the ground with his foot or riding over the poop.
Starting point is 00:18:11 My other friend gladly accepted the challenge, not knowing of his unfortunate future state. He mounted the bike on one side of the garden, assessed his route, set the lowest gear or higher, whichever was easiest, and set about it at the task at hand. Although heavily... He said abbreviated here. Heavily
Starting point is 00:18:30 inebriated, he found the challenge very easy and completed it without trouble. Getting a little cocky, he went for a second lap. Now, my other friend wanted him to slip and simply stand in dog turd, so he set about to sabotage the second lap. Near the end of the lap, he sprinted and pushed the one on the bike, expecting him to stumble and at best fall into some dog poo.
Starting point is 00:18:48 However, the force of his push changed the path of the bike. He stumbled, trying to control the bike before realising it was a lost cause, and bailed. Unfortunately for him, he stumbled until one of his legs slipped into the pond. The other leg gave way and he went hurdling, head first, almost completely into the pond. I say almost completely, his head did not. His head or more accurately his mouth
Starting point is 00:19:07 smashed against the rocks on either side of the pond. Front tooth clean off into the abyss of the water. We didn't realise at first and found the whole scenario hilarious until our friend looked up with blood pouring for his mouth. Laughter quickly turned to tears, not from the victim however, from the friend who did the pushing. He spent the next 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:19:24 explaining to the bloody toothless friend how he's ruined his life and he will never get a girlfriend or a job. The victim was very relaxed about it, which only added to the other's insistence that his life was ruined. Eventually, he got so upset he had to remove himself and insisted on walking home as punishment. The toothless friend tried to drain the pond,
Starting point is 00:19:40 believing it would be found and all would be put back to normal. The tooth was, of course, never found. The thought of losing a tooth puts a shiver in my spine every time someone touches their tooth hurts their tooth or even when a cartoon uh in a cartoon someone puts a string around their tooth to tie a door i have flashbacks to my friend's bloody mouth uh and a cringing sensation overtakes my body 10 to 15 years later i can gladly say he does have a girlfriend and a job so his life was not ruined imagine thinking
Starting point is 00:20:05 you'd never get a job because you knocked one of your teeth out I just like the idea of one of the fish coming up with a tooth a big old tooth
Starting point is 00:20:14 and he can eat all the other fish I secretly hope I will knock one of my teeth out so I can get a gold one I quite like one that was like
Starting point is 00:20:20 a set of Jürgen Kloppers Kloppers choppers Mick Hucknall had a little sapphire didn't he? Oh, he did, yes. Or a grill. Could you see me with a grill?
Starting point is 00:20:28 I can massively see you with a grill. 100%. Okay. A Tuco Salamanca grill. Yeah. Hank Schroeder. Love that. Okay, so what about this from Carter?
Starting point is 00:20:38 This is a great name. Great name. He's a marine biologist, and he's called Carter Rippon. Nice. He's on marine biologist and he's called Carter Rippon. Nice. He's on his own TV show. Carter says, Hi.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Rippon and the Terran. Couldn't help but notice several points missed while discussing the intelligence or lack of of dolphins. As a marine biologist with a background in evolutionary animal behavior,
Starting point is 00:21:00 I finally feel like I can send you both a pedantic email. We welcome it. Causal reasoning. Not casual reasoning. They just can't be bothered. Causal reasoning.
Starting point is 00:21:10 The ability to determine how cause and effect are applied in situations is used as a determinant of intelligence in animals under the broad topic of theory of mind. Corvids, which I think are birds. I think a class of birds. Their tool use and problem solving is amazing. However, their ability to be given a similar problem that appears completely different
Starting point is 00:21:29 and rapidly solve it is what is truly outstanding or astounding. Um, Marshall Spencer also got in touch and emailed him with, uh, I think it's a video of a crow using bait to tempt fish out of the water to catch them which is amazing anyway
Starting point is 00:21:46 brain density communication and amount of time spent playing are used as evidence for dolphin intelligence the notion that dolphins are deemed
Starting point is 00:21:53 intelligent because they jump through hoops is ridiculous that was a joke if you took a human from birth and trained them to jump through hoops and bred this for
Starting point is 00:22:00 millions of years would we have lost intelligence probably who gives a fuck I realise you probably don't care. Kind regards, Carter. So he does go off the rails
Starting point is 00:22:08 towards the end of the email, but it is interesting. So are dolphins intelligent or not? I'm getting nothing here. Yeah. I think Carter sort of lost his bottle a bit. He lost his bottle nose a bit there. He knew we were right.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah. So, I mean, my point is, my point merely was that, and I was obviously joking when i said that dolphins have never invented anything it's a joke but they do jump through the hoops to get the fish i'm trying to get to the bottom as to as to why what i want to know is what is the evidence of their but i'm not doubting it i'm just very interested to know what the evidence of their
Starting point is 00:22:40 behavior is to make them so intelligent now i know they've got very complicated social structures there's talk of you know dolphins mugging other dolphins, robbing them and taking their stuff, all that kind of stuff. Tell me what it is because it's fascinating. Yeah. I can't remember which side of the coin I came down on, which side of the fence I came down on. Was it that I said that dolphins are intelligent
Starting point is 00:23:01 or dolphins are not intelligent? I can't remember. I think we accept that they are. I was just more... I just think we make too much of their intelligence. Yeah. They can only ever be dolphins.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'll say now what I said then. What are they planning? What are they planning? Yeah. If they're that intelligent, it's a kid. The reason we started talking about it is because you weren't having
Starting point is 00:23:18 a beluga whale as a spy and I was giving you perfectly legitimate reasons as to why it would be good to do that. And you said, oh no, but the Chinese and the Russians have got details of everything and everyone anyway.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Right, okay. Didn't you? Yeah. I was saying to you, a beluga whale with a camera on its back going up to a ship, taking photos, you know, doing that kind of stuff. He's not going to snap himself though, is he? No, it's a GoPro probably. It's probably already recording. Where's he getting the charge from? Get your fin and press
Starting point is 00:23:43 the button. And it's going to be of good quality information. You're saying that the Chinese and the Russians have got all that information anyway, but they probably haven't. I reckon they have. They've got satellites. Satellites, they get more information, don't they? Satellites, little satellites, yeah?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Got the Google map cars. Yeah. See a dolphin drive one of those, you're in trouble. I was obsessed with, I was speaking about this on the WhatsApp group the app What3Words
Starting point is 00:24:08 this isn't an advert for What3Words as an app but I'm fascinated by the concept basically they've separated the entire world into a grid system
Starting point is 00:24:16 which is like maybe two, three metres wide and on every point on the grid instead of coordinates, they've got basically a combination of three words.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So obviously, if you say you've got a bank of a thousand words and you rotate them, say, for example, like one square... So this is an easier way of replacing coordinates? Yes. So if you remember that your house is palace cheat fresh, three words that don't really have any connection with each other, whereas next door is Park Bumpy Prime.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I'm looking at the app now. And then the house of the road is Jets Branded Sample because they're more accurate than postcodes because postcodes can refer to half a street and a lot of countries don't really have postcodes. Oh, so emergency vehicles, you mean? Yeah, so emergency vehicles, you could put your address down to know where
Starting point is 00:25:06 the front door is or somewhere you could apply it to I was talking to my mate over the weekend because I can't stop waxing lyrical about this app where are we now
Starting point is 00:25:14 Sagan where are we now I don't know how are you going to bring this to the table and not tell us where we're sat now what's our postcode
Starting point is 00:25:19 can I guess what's the name of it I'm not going to tell you the postcode are we in Cheetah Cheetah Man Cloud? We are right now
Starting point is 00:25:29 in Shadow Lobby Still. Love that. Next. Hang on. So hang on. So you said we're not giving them the postcode.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I've just said where we are exactly on this app. Not only where the postcode is but exactly where we are right now. You're the only dweeb
Starting point is 00:25:42 using the app. That's the difference. Next door is Cut Owls Refuse. People are not going to accept your app, Pete. It's not going to become standard.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Games Moment Small. Love that. Part glass sector. It's actually quite a good idea, isn't it? Yeah, it's a really good idea. Monk's Vibe School.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Who's created it? I don't know. Some clever clog. Some boffins. But I think emergency services around certain parts of the globe
Starting point is 00:26:03 are using it. But it's just a more accurate way of finding a place, I think. Particularly... Especially in a big building. You can sort of say, well, we're this block of... Or a rural area. A rural area. A massive rural area.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah. You know? Or, I don't know, I mean, it probably won't work in China because China have a long-standing policy of moving coordinates about. So the coordinates they release as the street and stuff like that, they have an algorithm that swaps them around and moves them around.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Why? So if you look, because they don't want anyone knowing where anything is because they're secretive. What, even their own people? Well, even their own people. But they'd probably have more
Starting point is 00:26:35 of a handle of where things were. But there's a difference between, on Google Maps, if you search for longitude and latitude on Google Maps in China, you'll get given a slightly different reference than anywhere else. They're doing their best to kind of correct them and stuff. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:54 But it's just a bit of a mess in there. That is fascinating. Let's move on and finish with this email here from Jacob. I think that's pronounced. He says, hi guys, Jacob from Bratislava here. I've got a story about a March school trip gone wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Probably is Jacob then, isn't it? Jacob, yeah. I believe I was in 6th grade, so age 12, and my class from school went on a day trip to Budapest in March.
Starting point is 00:27:14 The actual trip was lovely. It was on the Budapest matter. Ancient traditions. It was on the way back when we ran into some trouble, says Jacob. He says, I could hear the driver saying
Starting point is 00:27:24 we should get on our way back because there's a snowstorm coming later tonight. But the lady organising the trip insisted on driving us around the city for the next two hours so we could see more of Budapest. Beautiful place, so understandable. This would prove costly as the aforementioned snowstorm came after we got out on the highway. The bus sludged along in the traffic for about an hour before everything stopped. It was around 6pm when we stopped
Starting point is 00:27:47 and nothing would move for the next 20 hours. Oh no. Apparently there was a mass car crash miles ahead that got us trapped in the snowstorm. After an hour or two of teachers trying to keep 30 12 year olds in order, they essentially just gave up. In the words of Luke's grandad, it was a bloodbath.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Lord of the Rings. I mean, presumably it wasn't like Jurassic Park. There were kids crying because they were scared of the storm, kids crying because they missed their parents, kids crying because they were hungry, kids crying... Oh, no, there were kids also having a lovely time,
Starting point is 00:28:14 he said. I saw it as getting to have a sleepover on a bus with all my school friends, and once people started waking up in the morning, spirits were way lower, though, as everyone was way more hungry. But the local villagers came to our rescue with Hungarian delicacies.
Starting point is 00:28:27 One of the more eccentric guys from the class went out with a clear plastic bag to squat behind a bush on a highway. He probably didn't realise he was very visible to us on the bus. We saw him pull up his pants, take the plastic bag and throw it into a field
Starting point is 00:28:39 covered with untouched snow. Littering. Disappointing. Just do it. The poop is going to divide the grey peat. That plastic bag is going to take a thousand years to disappear.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Well, that'll be a treat for future generations. Around noon, we found out that a bus full of Slovak children stuck on a highway in Hungary had made national news back home and the Slovak embassy
Starting point is 00:28:56 was working on a plan to get us out of there. The plan would come to fruition that afternoon. The police gave the cars in front of us a signal to let us through until we reached a side road
Starting point is 00:29:05 where we walked for about a mile, got loaded into cars and vans and were transported back. Half of us were picked up by our parents, the other half
Starting point is 00:29:11 stayed the night at a local school. Sorry about the length of the story but I still hope you'll read it out or at least enjoy this absurd piece
Starting point is 00:29:18 of my childhood. That's Jakob from Bratislava. Well, I hope that teacher who decided to endanger the safety of the students was promptly fired. Yeah, because they've made a decision there, and that's caused a lot of problems.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, very difficult. Listen to your bus driver, guys. He knows what he's talking about. The bus driver always knows. There's a new comedy series out with Toby Jones playing a coach driver. Have you seen that? No, I have not. It's called Don't Forget the Driver.
Starting point is 00:29:39 You love a bit of Toby Jones. I do, but I have to say, sadly, I do love Toby, but that left me a bit cold. I might not bother with episode 2 I watched Jurassic Park he was in the last Jurassic Park wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Toby Jones Jurassic was it called Jurassic World? Jurassic World yeah with the volcano that wasn't that good either he plays a bad guy
Starting point is 00:29:56 who likes money he plays a bad guy he likes money he plays a bad guy he plays a bad dog well once again we've got through a lot of different subjects
Starting point is 00:30:05 Game of Thrones spoilers shitting in a bag I suppose I do think you should bleep that seven minutes in why I feel a bit
Starting point is 00:30:13 out of order no call it there is a small Game of Thrones spoiler in this what was the spoiler again no don't do it again
Starting point is 00:30:20 I'll tell you about it afterwards alright fine we need to get some make up for Thursday because you've been very rude to me today. You've been very rude to me and we had a naked cuddle earlier on.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Okay, we'll call it quits then. I thought that was going to be the end of our problems, the troubles. It was a topless cuddle. Topless cuddle. What did I say, nude cuddle? Yeah. Your body was very warm. This was a Radio Stakhanov production.

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