The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 165: What is your location?
Episode Date: May 6, 2019Hi all! It's a bank holiday but that doesn't mean the hustle stops for your two eponymous heroes. No sir. Luke and Pete are back in the studio and discussing, among other things, a row they had this m...orning, how radio schedules are populated at Christmas, and what it's like in a hot air balloon.Elsewhere, there's an ingenious new system invented for how to tell someone your location, we hear of another school trip gone badly wrong, The Elephant Man, and plenty more. *** THERE IS A SMALL GAME OF THRONES SPOILER IN THIS EPISODE ***To get in touch, it's: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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If you're having
girl problems
probably talk to
somebody
we don't feel bad
for you because
I mean you know
you could be to
blame
I think if you're
going through the
mill for whatever
reason I feel bad
for you
I've got empathy
I've got empathy
for you
I've got MPEGs
Have you been
pretty good Bank Holiday No one's going to listen to this shit show are they They might listen empathy. I've got empathy for you. I've got MPEGs. How have you been, Luke? Pretty good.
Bank holiday today, isn't it? Bank holiday, yeah.
No one's going to listen to this shit show, are they?
They might listen to it tomorrow morning.
If you're listening to it tomorrow morning, I hope you're enjoying
your slightly shorter week. But you know what?
We've recorded a couple of podcasts
today. We've done a photo shoot.
I'm off to go and do a radio show.
Work, you know,
the bank holidays don't apply to us freelancers, do they?
World keeps turning.
Exactly.
The big wheel keep on turning.
I actually quite like being in London
when it's a bank holiday
because it's so quiet and peaceful.
You know what?
I was up at six this morning
for the aforementioned commitment.
And as I left the house
and I walked down towards the bus stop,
no train today.
Right.
Annoying.
Anyway, it was actually really nice.
It was a beautiful sunny day, pleasant. And Iing. Anyway, it was actually really nice. It was a beautiful
sunny day, pleasant
and I thought this is
actually a really nice
place, this is a really
nice time to be around
in London.
I like it.
I enjoy it immensely.
I'd like to sort of
experience London on
Christmas Day.
I've never done that.
I don't think I have
either.
Because it would be
a bit depressing
living in the old
common street on
Christmas Day.
Do you pre-rec your
shows at Christmas then?
I don't do a lot of
pre-recs to be honest
if there's like a
special at the
Isle of Wight special
or something where
we interview the
boss of Isle of Wight
that'll go out on
Christmas day but
obviously that has to
be pre-recorded because
you've got guests
but they don't
so I always assume
so when I'm helping
my mum make their
Christmas lunch
and you've got the
radio on
I always assume
they're pre-rec'd
BBC do a lot of pre-wrecks
a lot of pre-wrecks
more than you'd expect as well
especially when you've got
a big star
that's why I never understand
why big radio stations
I think Heart
have just taken on
a woman out of
Britain's Got Talent
I couldn't tell you
she's on
Britain's Got Talent
the panel
oh Alicia
no not her
the woman
Amanda Holden
yes
we used to go out with
that man.
Amanda Holden.
They've just signed her up.
And I just thought,
she's going to take so much holiday.
Yeah.
And she'll be on...
She's on like three million quid
and she'll be on loads of holidays.
People listening won't...
And everyone else will have to pick up the slack.
People listening to this won't realise that
there is beef with what...
from so-called proper radio people
to celebrities just being parachuted into a radio show.
Yeah, but they get a bit of razzle-dazzle
that radio presenters obviously don't.
I don't have a problem with it at all,
but I have a problem when they don't present their shows.
Yeah, do what you're supposed to do.
That is annoying.
TalkSport fell foul of it with one or two people before,
and I'm pretty sure that the BBC have struggled as well
on occasion because they think, that guy'll be great, and I'm pretty sure that the BBC have struggled as well, on occasion, because they think,
that guy'll be great!
And he necessarily isn't great,
because he doesn't put the commitment in,
like you and I, Pete.
We're here on a bank holiday.
Yeah.
We're doing it.
Well, Matt Lucas did Radio 2 cover quite a lot
over the past few weeks,
and I was like,
I don't think he's that good, unfortunately.
Really?
Oh, you didn't like his stuff?
Yeah, you'd think he'd be very good, but...
I don't have Radio 2 as one of my presets,
so I'll never listen.
I like a bit of Popmaster.
Popmaster!
My radio, that was quite good.
My radio presets.
Let's talk about radio presets.
Radio presets.
Talk Sport, obviously.
Five Live.
Six Music.
Yep.
Radio 4.
Right.
Classic.
Yep.
And what's the other one?
There's six.
Oh, absolutely Radio 90s, of course.'s six oh Absolute Radio 90s
of course
Pete Dawson
yeah
no I do
I do actually listen to that
do you listen
on your FM radio yeah
no I don't
I've got a digital radio
is it on FM
no
are you trying to catch me out there
no no
I haven't got an FM
who has an FM radio
these days
hey why not listen to
Absolute Radio
on your smart speaker
could do
yeah
could do that
a lot of that
Peter why don't you tell
everyone listening about the row we had earlier the row do you want Could do that. A lot of that. Peter, why don't you tell everyone listening
about the row we had
earlier?
The row?
Do you want to do that?
Because that would have
repercussions, you said.
No, but maybe we should
talk...
No, no, we don't have
to talk about exactly
what it was about.
Right.
But we can talk about
the fact that we had a row.
Right, okay.
I think people will
find it interesting.
I don't know how we'd
have the argument or
explain the argument
without you being annoyed
by listeners doing certain things.
He's supposed to be a broadcaster, mate.
What do you mean?
We're working out.
We had a disagreement.
Use an analogy.
Yeah?
Right.
Car.
I've come into the garage with a car and you're fixing my car.
And it's full of spoilers.
There's too many spoilers on this.
Yeah.
No.
I think that sometimes you're...
We haven't got to go down the road of spoilers
because it's not about
that necessarily,
but I think sometimes
you get very effusive
in your interest
in certain,
how can I put this,
certain things
to do with tech.
And I know you're going
to say this doesn't
count towards tech,
but it does.
It doesn't count towards tech.
It does because it's a mistake
made in the production
which is kind of techy.
It's already obvious.
Everyone's going to be talking about it now.
By the time this comes out, I would have already seen it.
All right, well, let's talk about it properly then.
All right, go on then.
All right, Game of Thrones.
There was a fucking Starbucks cup in a scene with Daenerys Targaryen.
It's just in shot.
It might turn out to be a legitimate Game of Thrones-ian time space
drinking implement, but it doesn't fucking look like it.
It looks like
a cup from Starbucks
and I
early on
when we were doing
the photo shoot
I saw a screen capture
and I was like
that's pretty funny
here look at this
and they went
oh okay
cool
and then about
an hour later
there was actually
a video of it
in the scene
so it wasn't a photoshop
because I thought
it might be a photoshop
someone was just
playing the giddy goose
and sure enough it's in the shot and I showed it to you and you got um in my opinion
unreasonably angry about it i saw vision i saw movement movement i saw that movement i saw
something that we we crossed from the territory of a grainy little screenshot right it means nothing
to me yeah to video movement on your screen and I think I was making the fairly reasonable point, which is that I haven't seen the episode
yet.
I don't want to see anything.
We'll talk about it on Thursday, which is what I said to you at the time.
Happy to talk about it on Thursday.
And I think that you also went over the top and you were quite mean to me.
I wasn't quite mean to you.
I just said it's your refusal to even compromise on anything
I thought was
uncharacteristically childish from you.
No, characteristically childish.
No, no, no, no.
No, you're never childish.
But it's a show about dragons
and I wasn't showing you.
I'm still up to the same point as you are
so I knew there was no spoilers in there.
It was a scene with
Nerys Tangerian.
Stop saying it.
Stop saying it. The tall ginger boy. He's getting my back up. And Jon Snow and there. It was a scene with Daenerys Targaryen. Stop saying it. Stop saying it.
A tall ginger boy.
He's getting my back up.
And Jon Snow.
And they're just in the scene together.
Yeah.
Which we know they're alive from the last episode.
Apologies, spoilers.
And it was just showing you that it was genuinely in the show
and it wasn't a Photoshop.
So we got no comeback from the stuff we talked about last week
because we were quite vague.
We talked about tech spec and soundtrack.
Yeah, it was quite dull.
Sorry, guys.
Are we going to get away with what you've just said there
in case people haven't caught up on the whole series yet?
Because I do think there should be a cut-off.
If we're going to talk about The Sopranos or Breaking Bad, that's fine.
But people might not have actually seen last week's yet.
So I think you should bleep that.
I think if anyone's got a bit of a hair trigger about Game of Thrones,
they will have, yeah, they will have only watched it anyway.
But on the off-chance they haven't, as soon as we started mentioning Game of Thrones, they will have they will have only watched it anyway but on the off chance
they haven't
as soon as we started
mentioning Game of Thrones
they will have
forward forward forward
so my conscience is clear
my conscience
to be honest
I am
because I'm a man
who kind of
ruminates on things
and I
I like to sort of
leave
I leave everything
out on the pitch
when it comes to arguments
so I usually
that is very true
so I usually after a very true so I usually
after a while
I kind of like
think about it a bit
and like who's been wrong
and you know
this and that
on this occasion
my conscience was clear
because
there were no spoilers
in the frame
so this is the elaborate way
where you said
you were right on the lot
massively right
massively right
I thought you might say that
it's rare that I come to that
conclusion though Luke
there's a lot of times
I just sort of go
fair dues yeah yeah fair dues how do you feel when you have an argument with me how do you feel about it do you say that it's rare that I come to that conclusion though Luke there's a lot of times I just sort of go fair dues
yeah fair dues
how do you feel
when you have an argument with me
how do you feel about it
do you feel like it's
well what usually happens is
we both get a bit heated
you go
how many annoyed zombies
are you
do you stay here
which is at the point
that I know you've lost
no because you go over the top
that's why
you throw your whole
you just said it yourself
you leave it out on the pitch
I agree
you leave it
I've never known anyone
to go so
head first
10 out of 10
throw their heart
and soul into a round
yeah and that's done isn't it
about whatever it is
yeah
no I disagree
I'm a lot more
reserved than I used to be
but I'm passionate
about the subject
that I'm talking about
tech
I'm just you know
passionate about tech
passionate about
the amount of arguments you've had about bloody wires,
especially when it's in my wheelhouse,
where I house.
Your wire house, yeah.
My wire house.
Did you see, by the way,
changing trains completely,
did you see that they found the grave
of the Elephant Man this week?
Yes.
I didn't really...
Well, they found...
It's where they kept the soft tissue,
which I found fascinating.
Yeah.
I didn't really get that.
Well, they removed the skeleton
to show it off in the whatever museum
the elephant man's
bones are
the honeycombed
bone head thing
because he
asphyxiated himself
didn't he
he sort of died
because of the weight
of his own head
apparently yeah
which is fascinating
which that's probably
how I got the weight
of my own thoughts
I thought it was
I thought initially
because when I saw
the article
I thought it was
it was found in Leicester
I was like how many more
mad famous things have been found in Leicester?
But it wasn't. It was found in London, I think.
They just trimmed off the soft tissue and just put that in the grave.
It's really sad.
Well, it is really sad, but why bother even just burying a bit of old skin?
There's talk of unveiling plans for a memorial
in his hometown
of Leicester.
It's just hard that they'd,
it's amazing that they'd
kind of managed
to track it down
on the plot.
Yeah.
Very interesting.
And there was another,
also another story
that caught my eye
was a guy
who had already found
£145,000 worth
of Anglo-Saxon treasure.
It's about 800 years old.
It was a pendant. He's about 800 years old. There's a pendant.
He also has found something else,
which apparently is just as valuable in Norfolk
or somewhere in Norfolk.
The brooch man.
He found a brooch, didn't he?
And it was, yeah, beautiful, beautiful bit of work.
I love the idea of metal detecting.
We've talked about it with detectorists before,
which he didn't really like that much, but I love it.
He didn't like a farmer
just turn over his ground.
Just for it to be
so close to the surface
is just fascinating.
Absolutely fascinating.
I find it all fascinating.
I think it's fairly common
to go to some of the places
where some of the
US Civil War battles
are held
and apparently
it's just like musket balls
everywhere.
Everywhere.
That's amazing.
What happens when you
find something like that?
Is it finding like
ambergris you've got to
sneak it out of the country
and not tell anyone about it?
No, I think you have to
give half to the landowner
and you get to keep
half yourself.
Oh, piss off.
You're not digging up, is he?
He owns it.
It's literally his land.
I'll just kick it down
the street a bit.
What, that?
Yeah.
Found it in Tesco's.
That just blew over here.
It was actually over there.
But you have to get
permission from the landowner to actually do it anyway. That's like over here. It was actually over there. But you have to get permission from the landowner
to actually do it anyway.
That's like balloonists.
Have you ever been in a hot air balloon?
I have a very, very fond memory.
I was quite annoyed about it at the time.
But I have a very fond memory of chasing my granddad around.
Have I told you this?
Was he in a hot air balloon?
Yeah.
What? Hang on.
He was in a hot air balloon and he was floating around.
So my granddad really wanted to go into a hot air balloon.
Is this up?
Is this the plot of up?
Yeah.
No, and he really wanted to go in a hot air balloon.
I think it was probably for his, maybe his 70th.
Right.
And so he's 87 now.
So yeah, that sounds about right.
So it was 70th.
And my nan wasn't able to drive.
So she said, they said, look, my nan said,
I've bought your grandad
a trip in a hot air balloon
for his birthday
he's always wanted to do it
we've got to drive up somewhere
to where it takes off
fine
will you drive us
yeah
drive him down there
fine
and then when
they had the briefing
and they went to go in the hot air balloon
the guy running it
was like oh by the way
we don't really know
where we're going to land
so we'll let you know
he's like right okay
brilliant
so we end up having to
drive all the way
through the countryside
trying to find them again
because it landed
about 15 miles away
it's chaos
it's absolute chaos
but anyway
what were you going to say
well when you land
you've got to give the
you invariably give the farmer
a bottle of whiskey
so the guy's always got
like a bottle of whiskey on him
because I mean
you don't really
if you land in like
a lot of crops
that's going to be
that's the tradition
it's fucking annoying
that's the tradition
yeah you carry a bottle
of whiskey with you
and you hand it over to the landowner.
Right, so you've ruined my entire field of wheat.
Well, it's not the entire field.
It's the harvest.
Well, it depends on the landing, mate.
It depends on the landing.
But you have actually got a bottle of whiskey
to make up for it.
Yeah, incredible.
Have you ever been in one?
I guess I have,
and that's how I know that story.
How did it go?
I don't know.
It was very peaceful,
because obviously you can't hear without the burners.
I thought that.
I thought it might be really nice.
Very, very peaceful.
But I find the whole thing very, very fascinating.
Just the fact that it's just in a van,
and they just drive it there,
and then you just float around for a bit.
I find anything like that,
is it gyrocopters and stuff like that?
Those one-man helicopters you can buy and stuff,
and they're like...
Oh, I can see you in one of those.
But they're four grand or something.
And you just kind of just go up and,
I mean,
I wouldn't trust them,
but I mean,
just four grand,
you build it yourself,
or eight grand built,
and you go up,
these little quadcopters.
But because they're so not powerful,
you don't necessarily have to have a pilot's license for it,
which I find fascinating.
I can see you in one of those.
I don't trust helicopters generally anyway.
No, they don't look
you know
Laura Woods
I do a show with
on TalkSport
she does obviously Sky Sports
and she was
she was
I forget
I'm going to say
that she was
doing a game
in
in Liverpool
I think she was
supposed to be doing a game
in London the next day
or somewhere else
anyway
and she was talking to a couple of the guys London the next day or somewhere else anyway.
And she was talking to a couple of the guys who she was working with
or someone who's running things over there
saying that she's got to get a train.
And the guy was like,
oh, there's a helicopter going that way.
You just jump in it.
And she got a lift in the helicopter.
I think I'd be too scared.
I think if you are,
if you've had one before,
I think if you are like a multimillionaire
and that's how you get around places.
Get used to it.
You just don't get used to it.
It's like getting in a plane.
A lot of people just won't get in planes for that reason.
Well, I can see you in a one-man gyrocopter
that you run yourself.
I can definitely see you.
If you were knocking about 200 years ago,
you'd be a crazy inventor, I think.
Yeah.
You've got that mind.
There's that meme of a man going back to medieval times
and him going
and him going
tell us more about
this magical invention
that's called
electricity
where do you get it from
and the guy from
2019 is going
I don't fucking know
yeah I don't know
yes yeah
I saw that
you go back
I wish I could go back
to ancient times
and be like an absolute legend
how does electricity work
don't know
no
here's a song that I've half remembered
from the band Radiohead.
Yeah.
What?
So you're saying you're an amazing singer-songwriter?
Yeah, yeah.
And in my mind, I'm going, Beatles.
Do a Beatles song.
Do a song.
Can't really think of one, really.
Do your first two or three bars of Imagine on the piano.
Classic.
All right, Peter, let's have a little break,
and when we come back, we'll do a couple of emails.
All right, then.
I've got to press this button, haven't I?
Huh? How the f*** is it called Easy Jet, then. I've got to press this button, haven't I? Huh?
How the f*** is it called EasyJet, then?
If you want to make a point...
Shut up, man.
Move from here, sir.
All right, you're about to be flying.
Forget it.
I wasn't flying in the first place.
I forgot him.
I don't agree with swearing to people like that
in an aggressive way,
but he has got a point.
He has got a point.
Julian Assange there.
Julian Assange.
Hello at Luke and Pete Show.
Hello at thelukeandpeetshow.com. What is it? Hello at Luke and Pete show. Hello at the Luke and Pete show.com.
Oh, is it?
Hello at Luke and Pete show.
It is, isn't it?
Hello at Luke and Pete show.com.
It's the email address
to get in touch with us.
We've had lots of really good emails,
actually,
but we're always keen to hear more.
Yes.
I've got one coming up here
from a marine biologist
who's taken issue,
shall we say,
with some of our chat about dolphins
and their intelligence levels.
Uh-oh.
But I'll do that in a minute
why don't you go first Peter
alright
I thought you were
going to go first
so I had a burp brewing
our listeners will be
used to it don't they
that might come out
at some point
Peter Walker
hello Peter
dear little Pete
long time listener
first time emailer
I like people who
have emailed for the first time
love the show
thank you
and have told friends
to wrap their ears
around the podcast
one is a big fan
the other claims
to listen yet only
nods along if content
comes up in conversation.
I like that.
A bluff in his ticket.
It was like when I was
four years old and
pretended that I'd
watch Robocop.
I hadn't.
I told you about
getting scared
watching Robocop last week.
Spookies.
Did you watch that
video with the guns
and the balls?
No.
No.
Never mind.
Sometimes I switch off
when you talk about
that kind of stuff.
I think that's not
really my cup of tea,
you know?
The reason I'm writing
is an incident involving
the two friends in question
which has triggered
a phobia in my
similar to Pete's
rolling of the ankle
which I think is a sentence.
When we were teens
we would often spend
weekends in our
friend's back garden
with a mix of
industrial ciders
such as White Lightning,
Frosty Jacks
and Economy Vodka.
So can I just say just to cut
in industrial strength
cider when you're a
teenager white lightning
get it what the other
ones these reads there
frosty jacks yeah
remember that one we
had one called graphite
graphite and i've never
heard anyone else
mention that i'll put
lead in your pencil we
had the threshers on
the corner of the
broadway shopping
center it's not a shopping centre.
It was about five shops.
At the top of my road,
used to sell cider for like a quid.
Right.
And it was called graphite.
Graphite.
And I've never seen it before or since.
And I'm sure I'm not making up.
So if you're out there
and you're around my age
or whatever age you are,
if you know of a cheap industrial strength cider
called graphite,
get in touch.
Hello at lukeandpreacher.com.
It's now graphene
because everyone
talks about Graphine
now
no one talks about
Graphite anymore
it's far easier
to digest
the make up's
far more simple
Graphite cider
did you ever have that
no I was never
a big cider drinker
to be honest
oh you didn't drink
to you about 19
yeah and little stubby beers
was my first kind of
Alsace
beer Alsace
that's what it was called
where the Alsatians
come from
yes when we were teens we would often spend weekends in the back bringing booze Alsace? That's what it was called? Where the Alsatians come from. Yes.
When we were teens,
we would often spend weekends in the back of our car
and bring booze.
Activities would involve climbing over the back garden fence
onto the back of a golf course,
playing knock and run.
Often we would remove forced sales signs
under the cover of night
and reassign them to random houses
in an attempt to cause confusion in the house next morning.
Yeah, like that.
Basically, we were little shits.
Nothing damaging, but shits nonetheless. One night we thought we would have a quiet evening and just get smashed in the house next morning. Yeah, like that. Basically, we were little shits. Nothing damaging, but shits nonetheless.
One night we thought we would have a quiet evening
and just get smashed in the back garden
with some music and drinks.
Now the garden, although being quite small,
did have an extremely large amount of animal droppings.
Should I mention the friend had three dogs
and rarely cleaned up a regular-sized trampoline
and a small little corner pond and rockery.
After many pints of said cider and a few shots of vodka,
one of the two bet that the other wouldn't be able to weave around the droppings on a bike
without touching the ground with his foot or riding over the poop.
My other friend gladly accepted the challenge,
not knowing of his unfortunate future state.
He mounted the bike on one side of the garden,
assessed his route, set the lowest gear or higher, whichever was easiest,
and set about it at the task at hand.
Although heavily...
He said abbreviated here.
Heavily
inebriated, he found the challenge very easy
and completed it without trouble. Getting a little cocky, he went for a
second lap. Now, my other friend wanted
him to slip and simply stand in dog turd,
so he set about to sabotage the second
lap. Near the end of the lap, he sprinted
and pushed the one on the bike,
expecting him to stumble and at best fall into some dog poo.
However, the force of his push changed the path of the bike.
He stumbled, trying to control the bike before realising it was a lost cause,
and bailed.
Unfortunately for him, he stumbled until one of his legs slipped into the pond.
The other leg gave way and he went hurdling,
head first, almost completely into the pond.
I say almost completely, his head did not. His head
or more accurately his mouth
smashed against the rocks on either side
of the pond. Front tooth clean
off into the abyss of the water. We didn't realise
at first and found the whole scenario hilarious
until our friend looked up with blood pouring for his
mouth. Laughter quickly turned to tears, not from
the victim however, from the friend who did
the pushing. He spent the next 20 minutes
explaining to the bloody toothless friend how he's ruined
his life and he will never get a girlfriend or a job.
The victim
was very relaxed about it, which only added to
the other's insistence that his life was ruined.
Eventually, he got so upset he had to remove
himself and insisted on walking home as punishment.
The toothless friend tried to drain the pond,
believing it would be found and all
would be put back to normal. The tooth was, of course,
never found. The thought of losing a tooth puts a shiver in my spine every time someone touches
their tooth hurts their tooth or even when a cartoon uh in a cartoon someone puts a string
around their tooth to tie a door i have flashbacks to my friend's bloody mouth uh and a cringing
sensation overtakes my body 10 to 15 years later i can gladly say he does have a girlfriend and a
job so his life was not ruined
imagine thinking
you'd never get a job
because you knocked
one of your teeth out
I just like the idea
of one of the fish
coming up
with a tooth
a big old tooth
and he can eat
all the other fish
I secretly hope
I will knock
one of my teeth out
so I can get a gold one
I quite like one
that was like
a set of Jürgen Kloppers
Kloppers choppers
Mick Hucknall
had a little sapphire
didn't he?
Oh, he did, yes.
Or a grill.
Could you see me with a grill?
I can massively see you with a grill.
100%.
Okay.
A Tuco Salamanca grill.
Yeah.
Hank Schroeder.
Love that.
Okay, so what about this from Carter?
This is a great name.
Great name.
He's a marine biologist,
and he's called Carter Rippon.
Nice. He's on marine biologist and he's called Carter Rippon. Nice.
He's on his own TV show.
Carter says,
Hi.
Rippon and the Terran.
Couldn't help but notice
several points missed
while discussing the intelligence
or lack of of dolphins.
As a marine biologist
with a background
in evolutionary animal behavior,
I finally feel like
I can send you both
a pedantic email.
We welcome it.
Causal reasoning.
Not casual reasoning.
They just can't be bothered.
Causal reasoning.
The ability to determine how cause and effect are applied in situations
is used as a determinant of intelligence in animals
under the broad topic of theory of mind.
Corvids, which I think are birds.
I think a class of birds.
Their tool use and problem solving is amazing.
However,
their ability to be given a similar problem that appears completely different
and rapidly solve it is what is truly outstanding or astounding.
Um,
Marshall Spencer also got in touch and emailed him with,
uh,
I think it's a video of a crow using bait to tempt fish out of the water to
catch them
which is amazing
anyway
brain density
communication
and amount of time
spent playing
are used as evidence
for dolphin intelligence
the notion that
dolphins are deemed
intelligent because
they jump through hoops
is ridiculous
that was a joke
if you took a human
from birth and trained
them to jump through hoops
and bred this for
millions of years
would we have lost
intelligence
probably
who gives a fuck
I realise you probably don't care.
Kind regards, Carter.
So he does go off the rails
towards the end of the email,
but it is interesting.
So are dolphins intelligent or not?
I'm getting nothing here.
Yeah.
I think Carter sort of lost his bottle a bit.
He lost his bottle nose a bit there.
He knew we were right.
Yeah.
So, I mean,
my point is,
my point merely was
that, and I was obviously joking when i said that
dolphins have never invented anything it's a joke but they do jump through the hoops to get the fish
i'm trying to get to the bottom as to as to why what i want to know is what is the evidence of
their but i'm not doubting it i'm just very interested to know what the evidence of their
behavior is to make them so intelligent now i know they've got very complicated social structures
there's talk of you know dolphins mugging other dolphins,
robbing them and taking their stuff, all that kind of stuff.
Tell me what it is because it's fascinating.
Yeah.
I can't remember which side of the coin I came down on,
which side of the fence I came down on.
Was it that I said that dolphins are intelligent
or dolphins are not intelligent?
I can't remember.
I think we accept that they are.
I was just more...
I just think we make too much
of their intelligence.
Yeah.
They can only ever be dolphins.
I'll say now what I said then.
What are they planning?
What are they planning?
Yeah.
If they're that intelligent,
it's a kid.
The reason we started talking about it
is because you weren't having
a beluga whale as a spy
and I was giving you
perfectly legitimate reasons
as to why it would be good
to do that.
And you said,
oh no, but the Chinese and the Russians
have got details of everything and everyone anyway.
Right, okay. Didn't you? Yeah.
I was saying to you, a
beluga whale with a camera on its back
going up to a ship, taking photos,
you know, doing that kind of stuff. He's not going to
snap himself though, is he? No, it's a GoPro
probably. It's probably already recording.
Where's he getting the charge from? Get your fin and press
the button.
And it's going to be of good quality information.
You're saying that the Chinese and the Russians have got all that information anyway,
but they probably haven't.
I reckon they have.
They've got satellites.
Satellites, they get more information, don't they?
Satellites, little satellites, yeah?
Got the Google map cars.
Yeah.
See a dolphin drive one of those, you're in trouble.
I was obsessed with,
I was speaking about this
on the WhatsApp group
the app
What3Words
this isn't an advert for
What3Words
as an app
but I'm fascinated
by the concept
basically they've
separated the entire world
into a grid system
which is like
maybe
two, three
metres wide
and on every
point on the grid
instead of coordinates,
they've got basically a combination of three words.
So obviously, if you say you've got a bank of a thousand words
and you rotate them,
say, for example, like one square...
So this is an easier way of replacing coordinates?
Yes.
So if you remember that your house is palace cheat fresh,
three words that don't really have any connection with each other,
whereas next door is Park Bumpy Prime.
I'm looking at the app now.
And then the house of the road is Jets Branded Sample
because they're more accurate than postcodes
because postcodes can refer to half a street
and a lot of countries don't really have postcodes.
Oh, so emergency vehicles, you mean?
Yeah, so emergency vehicles,
you could put your address down to know where
the front door is
or somewhere
you could apply it to
I was talking to my mate
over the weekend
because I can't stop
waxing lyrical about this app
where are we now
Sagan
where are we now
I don't know
how are you going to
bring this to the table
and not tell us
where we're sat now
what's our postcode
can I guess
what's the name of it
I'm not going to tell you
the postcode
are we in Cheetah
Cheetah
Man Cloud?
We are right now
in Shadow Lobby Still.
Love that.
Next.
Hang on.
So hang on.
So you said
we're not giving them
the postcode.
I've just said
where we are exactly
on this app.
Not only where the
postcode is
but exactly where
we are right now.
You're the only dweeb
using the app.
That's the difference.
Next door is
Cut Owls Refuse.
People are not going
to accept your app, Pete.
It's not going to
become standard.
Games Moment Small.
Love that.
Part glass sector.
It's actually quite
a good idea, isn't it?
Yeah, it's a really
good idea.
Monk's Vibe School.
Who's created it?
I don't know.
Some clever clog.
Some boffins.
But I think
emergency services
around certain parts
of the globe
are using it.
But it's just a more accurate way of finding a place, I think.
Particularly...
Especially in a big building.
You can sort of say, well, we're this block of...
Or a rural area.
A rural area.
A massive rural area.
Yeah.
You know?
Or, I don't know, I mean, it probably won't work in China
because China have a long-standing policy of moving coordinates about.
So the coordinates they release as the street and stuff like that,
they have an algorithm
that swaps them around
and moves them around.
Why?
So if you look,
because they don't want anyone
knowing where anything is
because they're secretive.
What, even their own people?
Well, even their own people.
But they'd probably have more
of a handle of where things were.
But there's a difference between,
on Google Maps,
if you search for
longitude and latitude on Google Maps in China,
you'll get given a slightly different reference than anywhere else.
They're doing their best to kind of correct them and stuff.
Right.
But it's just a bit of a mess in there.
That is fascinating.
Let's move on and finish with this email here from Jacob.
I think that's pronounced.
He says, hi guys, Jacob from Bratislava here.
I've got a story
about a March school trip
gone wrong.
Probably is Jacob then,
isn't it?
Jacob, yeah.
I believe I was in 6th grade,
so age 12,
and my class from school
went on a day trip
to Budapest in March.
The actual trip was lovely.
It was on the Budapest matter.
Ancient traditions.
It was on the way back
when we ran into some trouble,
says Jacob.
He says,
I could hear the driver saying
we should get on our way back
because there's a snowstorm coming later tonight.
But the lady organising the trip insisted on driving us around the city
for the next two hours so we could see more of Budapest.
Beautiful place, so understandable.
This would prove costly as the aforementioned snowstorm came after we got out on the highway.
The bus sludged along in the traffic for about an hour before everything stopped.
It was around 6pm when we stopped
and nothing would move for the next
20 hours. Oh no.
Apparently there was a mass car crash miles
ahead that got us trapped in the snowstorm. After
an hour or two of teachers trying to keep 30
12 year olds in order, they
essentially just gave up. In the words of
Luke's grandad, it was a bloodbath.
Lord of the Rings. I mean, presumably it wasn't like Jurassic Park.
There were kids crying
because they were scared of the storm,
kids crying because they missed their parents,
kids crying because they were hungry,
kids crying...
Oh, no,
there were kids also having a lovely time,
he said.
I saw it as getting to have a sleepover on a bus
with all my school friends,
and once people started waking up in the morning,
spirits were way lower, though,
as everyone was way more hungry.
But the local villagers came to our rescue
with Hungarian delicacies.
One of the more eccentric guys from the class
went out with a clear plastic bag
to squat behind a bush on a highway.
He probably didn't realise
he was very visible to us on the bus.
We saw him pull up his pants,
take the plastic bag
and throw it into a field
covered with untouched snow.
Littering.
Disappointing.
Just do it.
The poop is going to divide the grey peat.
That plastic bag is going to
take a thousand years
to disappear.
Well, that'll be a treat
for future generations.
Around noon,
we found out that a bus
full of Slovak children
stuck on a highway in Hungary
had made national news back home
and the Slovak embassy
was working on a plan
to get us out of there.
The plan would come to fruition
that afternoon.
The police gave the cars
in front of us
a signal to let us through
until we reached a side road
where we walked
for about a mile,
got loaded into cars
and vans
and were transported back.
Half of us were picked up
by our parents,
the other half
stayed the night
at a local school.
Sorry about the length
of the story
but I still hope
you'll read it out
or at least enjoy
this absurd piece
of my childhood.
That's Jakob from Bratislava.
Well, I hope that teacher
who decided to endanger
the safety of the students
was promptly fired.
Yeah, because they've made a decision there,
and that's caused a lot of problems.
Yeah, very difficult.
Listen to your bus driver, guys.
He knows what he's talking about.
The bus driver always knows.
There's a new comedy series out with Toby Jones playing a coach driver.
Have you seen that?
No, I have not.
It's called Don't Forget the Driver.
You love a bit of Toby Jones.
I do, but I have to say, sadly, I do love Toby,
but that left me a bit cold.
I might not bother with episode 2
I watched Jurassic Park
he was in the last
Jurassic Park wasn't
he?
Toby Jones
Jurassic was it
called Jurassic World?
Jurassic World yeah
with the volcano
that wasn't that good
either
he plays a bad guy
who likes money
he plays a bad guy
he likes money
he plays a bad guy
he plays a bad dog
well once again we've
got through a lot of
different subjects
Game of Thrones spoilers
shitting in a bag
I suppose
I do think you should
bleep that
seven minutes in
why
I feel a bit
out of order
no
call it
there is a small
Game of Thrones spoiler
in this
what was the spoiler again
no don't do it again
I'll tell you about it
afterwards
alright fine
we need to get some
make up for Thursday
because you've been very rude to me today.
You've been very rude to me
and we had a naked cuddle earlier on.
Okay, we'll call it quits then.
I thought that was going to be the end of our problems,
the troubles.
It was a topless cuddle.
Topless cuddle.
What did I say, nude cuddle?
Yeah.
Your body was very warm. This was a Radio Stakhanov production.