The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 167: Intercom games
Episode Date: May 13, 2019Luke and Pete muster back in the studio for another audio missive, delivered fresh to your ears like a new piercing from Claire's Accessories (are they still around?). There's a Peter the Dolphin upda...te, a touching gift for Peter from Luke, and some, dare we say, quite good Louis Theroux impressions.Elsewhere, we talk a bit about TV shows and Bryan Adams before hearing about something quite chilling that's manifested itself on Pete's intercom at home. To continue the recent run of frankly excellent emails we've been receiving of late, it's hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I'm not even going to let the music fade out.
I'm starting the show, Luke.
Wow.
It's a three-alarm fire.
Are you at your mind?
We've got to fill half an hour here.
We're starting it early.
Episode 167 of the Luke and Pete show.
It's Monday the 13th of May.
I'm Luke Moore.
That man there in a rather snazzy shirt is Mr. Pete Donaldson.
If I was to look at that shirt without knowing what time of year it was,
I would say it's May, baby, and summer's on the way.
This is like me sort of saying this is quite warm,
but also quite light at the same time.
So it works in many different weathers.
Do you know what?
Look at the material of it.
It looks like, did you ever have,
and this is not me slating your shirt because it's a lovely shirt,
but do you ever have, when you were growing up,
you'd go to a party, a birthday party at someone's house,
and they'd put out that quite, they bought it specially,
but it was quite cheap, tablecloth, papery.
That's what that shirt's kind of reminding me of.
Yeah, I'd have that, yeah.
Slight bumps on it as well.
But yeah,
summer's on the way.
I'm looking forward to it.
Can't wait for it
to get a bit warmer.
It's been miserable
the last few weeks.
It really has been.
It's really got my guts.
It's really got me down.
Saturday was very changeable.
We had hailstones on Saturday.
Yeah?
We had hailstones
in centre of town
and then it became sunny.
Sure that just wasn't
in your heart?
I mean, I'm fairly certain I can't control the weather,
but, you know, the jury's out on that one.
But I've arrived on Monday.
I don't know what it is about Monday.
It doesn't matter what I've done, what I haven't done,
whether I've gone hard, whether I've gone soft.
I'm just Monday, man.
I'm finding them more and more difficult as I get older.
Yeah.
I'm just feeling a bit more listless and a bit more,
even though I've done now.
Rapidly approaching the grave. Yeah, but'm finally, I'm just feeling a bit more listless and a bit more, even though I've done now. Rapidly approaching the grave.
Yeah, but like,
why Monday?
Life tends to slow down.
Why Monday?
I work Sundays though.
It's not like my working week
starts on a Monday.
Because you know you've got to see me again.
Yeah,
it's a dark cloud in my heart.
The black dog following you around.
It's like,
your quote there about the weather
just reminded me of something
Nick Cave said,
where he said,
I can control the weather with my moods,
I just can't control my moods.
Oh, that's good. I like that.
Yeah, clever, isn't it? I've got something quite exciting to tell you. So the other day,
so my brother-in-law is getting married in the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville,
in Alabama. I think I mentioned it maybe. We've certainly got an email or two about
me going to Huntsville. People say, oh, do you want to be here um so i've definitely mentioned it at some point right um but the reason they're
getting married at the space and rocket center is because um my brother-in-law works for nasa
right and uh his wife to be is also a scientist working she was at nasa i think she might be
somewhere else now up in dc anyway they're very clever and And because they're getting married at the Space and Rocket Centre,
they wanted a kind of theme.
They said, you know, if you want to, when you're with your,
I mean, it's a formal occasion,
but if you want to have a nod here or there to space or rockets
or technology or whatever, that'd be nice.
So I guess some people are going to go along.
Mimi's got like a dress, which is like a universe-themed dress.
Yeah, okay.
So I thought what would be nice for me is I've got a nice suit to wear,
but I thought it would be nice to have a little pocket square
with the nod to that.
So I bought a pocket square.
Anyway, when I was there, I saw a pocket square
that I thought you would like.
Oh.
So I bought you one.
You bought me a pocket square.
That's very kind.
So I thought it might be good for one of those themed events
and award ceremonies you go to.
Right, okay.
You might want to wear it.
If you don't like them, you just re-gift it I suppose.
What's this?
Oh it's got a little
yeah that would be
perfect.
I never get invited
to the gaming
BAFTAs but the
what do you call
them?
Why don't you
describe to the
listener what it is?
It's two people
fucking.
No you're going to
say that.
It's not.
It's a beautifully
rich thick pocket square with a little controller.
A little video game controller.
I call them joypads.
Yeah, I said that to a young person this week and I've instantly regretted it.
You can't say joypads anymore, no?
No, because A, it sounds like a sex toy.
B, it's just a bit old.
It's like joystick.
Get your joystick.
Anyway, so that's quite neutrally coloured, so I thought it would go with anything you wear. Yeah, I think that's cool. Thank you very much. You're welcome. It's like joystick. Get your joystick. Anyway, so that's quite neutrally coloured,
so I thought it would go with anything you wear.
Yeah, I think that's cool.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
It's very kind of you, Luke.
I will give you the money.
No, don't be silly.
Is that what you say to people who give you gifts?
Yes.
I'll give you the money for that.
No, it's Christmas Day.
You haven't got to do that.
Put your wallet away.
I'm trying to figure out what kind of controller it is.
It looks more like an Xbox.
Yeah, it's a bit more Xbox-y.
Maybe like one of those third-party ones.
Have I made a faux pas?
It might be one of those third-party ones
that nobody wants to use.
If you were my teenage son now,
you'd go,
you know I play PS4,
and throw it back at me.
There's that wonderful Lemmy sketch where he's going,
oh, it's the same bike that Steve down the road has.
And he goes,
oh yeah, it's his bike.
He got a new one for Christmas.
Yeah.
He's like, ah!
And the dad goes,
yeah, get for a little shite. Yeah, that's Yeah. He's like, and the dad goes, yeah, get for a little shite.
Yeah, that's right.
He's going,
you'll get nothing, nothing.
He's going,
dad, no.
I've got a little bit
of breaking news
just come through.
Oh.
Came through on my laptop
news update.
My laptop computer.
Jeremy Kyle show
suspended indefinitely
after death of guest
ITV announces.
That's exciting.
That's bleak. That is exciting. What, they died on...
Pete, more news as we get it.
Fascinating. More follows, more news as we get it.
Very, very sad. Very bleak.
I'm not sure. I don't know. I mean, it's sad
that someone's died, but I mean, we don't know who it was.
It could have been on... because they were
doing a naughty thing. It could be.
We don't know. Nobody's asked that.
Does it make you feel uncomfortable to receive gifts from me?
Yeah, it does, yeah.
Yeah, I thought it might do, yeah.
That's part of the reason
I did it to you.
Yeah, it was worth the extra tenner.
Did you manage to get somebody else,
the thing you actually went for, though?
Yeah, I got myself a thing,
and I got myself a tie as well,
but now I'm thinking
the tie's going to be a bit overkill.
I might just do the pocket square
and a neutral tie.
Yeah.
I mean, basically,
I'm going to do whatever
my wife tells me to do.
That's essentially how it works, but we'll see um lovely old job well um i have spent the weekend
merely watching a bit of telly i've done nothing really uh in part of any import i tried to start
watching that chernobyl but i can get into it oh right yeah do you know why it's clearly a
dramatization of the chernobyl disaster in the late 80s, or mid to late 80s.
And it's set where it happened, of course.
And I think since I've watched Gamora,
I now need these kind of shows to be in the local language
with subtitles.
And it's all in English, which to me just completely breaks
the magic of it.
Well, their sort of explanation, as far as it was retold to me,
was that we had quite an international cast
and also the accents are from all over the place,
from like the Ukraine to Ukraine East.
And they wouldn't be able to do a good job.
So I'm thinking, well,
get some fucking actors who can do the accent then.
Yeah, exactly.
Get some actors from the area.
Yeah.
Just like, don't disrespect a language.
They do this all the time.
I mean, they did it with Death of Stalin. I mean, they can argue with their case and stuff, but I don't disrespect a language. They do this all the time. I mean, they did it with Death of Stalin.
I mean, they can argue with their case and stuff,
but I don't necessarily buy it.
I care less when it's a comedy.
If you can't do the accent,
I thought the accents that they brought in
were quite interesting,
because obviously it was the fellow
who was in Dead Man Walking at the weekend,
the sort of jocks like this.
He sort of quite,
but he put on a sort of very sort of bald,
kind of like Northern accent. Dead Man's Shoes. Dead Man's Shoes, sorry. Paddy Considine. Paddy Considine, is it? jokes like this he put on a very bald northern accent
Dead Man's Shoes
Dead Man's Shoes
sorry
Paddy Constantine
Paddy Constantine
is it?
I can now tell
what you're talking about
even though you don't
even give me the
name of the correct film
Paddy Constantine's
brilliant
he obviously did
a northern kind of
alright you bastard
sort of voice
for Dead Man's Stone
which I quite enjoyed
because obviously
people will be taken
from different
sections of society
in these pieces
so yeah
I agree
that kind of works
but
it massively
disrespects
but it only ever
happens to that
part of the world
because it's sort of
the I am
you've earned
your vodka now
kind of accent
just sounds shit
get somebody
who can actually
fucking do it then
there's no excuse
really is there
I think it's
hire local actors
I mean you're telling
me that a country
the size of Ukraine or Russia or whatever,
you can't find people to do it in the local language.
I mean, Gamora completely changed the game on that front.
Gamora, the only regret I have about Gamora is I can't eat my dinner when I'm watching it
because I've got to read the subtitles.
I'll make my peace with that.
So I tried to watch that over the weekend, but I didn't.
I ended up just, I just sacked it off.
I can't find it on my. I can't find it on my
illegal... Is it back on Sky
kind of being broadcast broadcast?
It's a novel. Yeah, and sorry, no, Gamora.
It's not out yet. It's not out yet.
It's out in June, I think. Yeah, I mean, it's been out in
Italy, I think, because they just need to.
But then I wouldn't trust the...
I would presume, for that reason,
knowing fully well that it is quite popular
elsewhere in Europe,
they would probably delay getting official subtitles.
Exactly, that's the beauty of it.
So James Horncastle watched it,
but he watched it with Italian subtitles,
because he can speak Italian, and obviously it's in Neapolitan.
There's no version of it out now with English subtitles.
But there will be fan conversions.
How much do you have to want it?
How impatient have you got to be?
Yeah.
Just wait.
Wait until next month.
There's nothing else on TV to watch, is there?
No.
I've still not even watched the last week of the ones.
Oh, have you?
I've seen it.
I'll obviously watch the most recent ones tonight.
Weirdly enough, because I'm going to be in Greece for the next week,
it means I'm going to have to wait until I get back
to watch the finale of the whole thing. Will it I'm going to have to wait until I get back to watch the
finale of the whole
thing.
Will it not be being
shown on telly out
there?
In a hotel I think
I'll have a premium
TV out there.
Premium TV.
I was watching a lot.
Also my sister's
getting married.
I'd be in trouble if
I missed that.
I watched a red
wedding of your own.
I watched a lot of
Louis Theroux.
People obviously get
very excited about
Louis Theroux and with good cause because he's very good
but I don't really
I've not really watched a lot of him since I was a bit
younger and he's
still doing the same thing really isn't he
Do you think that this
heroin you're putting in your arm is bad?
Do you think that maybe I could have a go
at that? Would that be
good for me to do that?
Do you think that you getting beaten up
by your boyfriend
is a good thing
yeah
so clearly not
Louis
I mean you're living
in a tent
I mean
are you happy
in a tent
no
but he's just
constantly
do you know what's
great about it
is that some of it
by far
a lot of his best work
is done in the US
because they are
if you watch the people
he's a subject of documentaries they are 50 confused yeah about why this guy who to them
sounds like he should be a member of the royal family is interested in them yeah but he also
dresses so smart and he looks so neutral he's the most unthreatening man to ever live that they they
get completely disarmed by him yeah constantly. Constantly. But they just fill spaces
and he just sort of just looks at them
with his eyes sort of going,
oh, this is a terrible situation for you to be in.
Yeah, I've been on the ice for four years now.
I lost my job.
I used to be a computer programmer.
And he's like, oh,
I mean, you must have been making
quite a lot of money then.
Yeah.
But he's just constantly faced with people who need a fucking hug
and he never gives them a hug
I spent most of watching Louis Theroux
just shouting give her a hug
give him a hug
they're crying give them hugs
when you're making documentaries whether it's like a natural world documentary
or one of those you're not supposed to interfere are you
I would hug everyone
that's a really controversial
point because
you know back in the day when gonzo journalism started coming around with tom wolf and um
hunter s thompson and all that kind of stuff um they used to take the non-interference of what
was happening to like a ridiculous degree and so in some ways they were completely immersed
themselves in it but they wouldn't want to break that by saying, stop,
what are you doing?
So there would literally be people overdosing and they wouldn't get involved,
you know, or people being sexually assaulted or whatever.
And they wouldn't,
and they wouldn't get involved.
Some of the stuff,
an easy decision to make on those ones.
Yeah.
Some of the stuff the hell's angels were getting up to,
you know,
and they would not interfere.
Popping wheelies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Popping wheelies.
Pulling skids outside the butchers.
Giving each other Chinese burns. Yeah, yeah. Popping wheelies. Putting skids outside the butchers. Giving each other Chinese burns.
Oh, naughty lads.
I think Louis may be just adopting that policy.
But, you know, part of the reason I find Theroux fascinating
is because he was able to break into this industry
with just, you know, the greatest travel writer of all time was his father.
Yeah.
And so it's very interesting.
No, no, no, I didn't mean that
because he's very good.
But is that most people recoil,
and I know you do,
particularly,
from any kind of awkward situation.
And it's a perfectly natural way to be.
You want to remove yourself
from a position or whatever.
Ironically, given that we're doing
this show every week.
But Louis seems to thrive
on the awkward situation.
He seems to have come up with a tactic
to completely disarm the other person
and let it just wash over him.
So sometimes you'll see him literally
sat in the church yard in Brixton,
surrounded by three alcoholics,
one of them who's literally taken a slash on the floor,
and he's like, right.
I mean, do you really think you should be doing that here?
You know, he doesn't care.
Like, where most people are like, right,
stop the cameras
let's go
because this is dangerous
this man has just done a wee
in a churchyard
yeah
is that your best example
so what did you
yeah I couldn't think of anything else
what episode did you watch
it was the one about
prostitutes
and the other one about
heroin
and obviously
just everyone
all the big hits
everyone seemed to start
their heroin journey
from like pills
they were just all
just pill popping,
stealing from their
grandmas,
all the hardcore pills
and stuff.
It's going,
oh God.
You really sound like you were.
I take the odd paramol.
I take the odd cordine
of a Sunday.
That little sentence there,
you really sound like
Rivers Como then.
Why would that come up?
That's the sort of thing
you would say
in a Weezer song.
He's,
you sort of look at his
kind of output. He's done two albums I think now Weezer song? He's, he's sort of, look at his, his kind of output.
He's done two albums
I think now in Japanese.
Right.
He's a proper,
as you would call
in the business,
a weeble,
like a proper wet
Japanese neonophile
kind of.
Are you?
Yeah,
but like,
I don't like the music.
I don't like the video games.
You've got a bit of fire
in your belly still as well.
Say again?
You've also got a bit
of fire in your belly as well.
I've yet to make my pinkerton
but it's
yeah
I was like
wow you're still
doing that
and you're
you must be 50
yeah yeah
so do you think
I mean you started
off this weekend
quite tired
even though there's
no reason
but do you think
this is going to be
a good week
I don't know
I'm on different
hours
I don't generally
like working in the
day on my radio
station so I like to do my normal show you're like midnight caller I'm like midnight caller I'm on different hours. I don't generally like working in the day on my radio station.
So I like to do my normal show. You're like Midnight Caller, aren't you?
I'm like Midnight Caller.
I like to solve crimes and get out there.
And so it's quite,
I've got to move a lot of stuff around.
So it's good.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's all good.
And whereas a lot of people are kind of
regular normal workers by day
and crime fighters by night,
you are sleeper and eater by day
and worker by night.
Do you reckon you could write a memoir
about your life on the margins
under cloak of darkness in Soho
for these last 10 years
or however long it's been?
Well, I've only been there for five years,
but yeah, I mean,
somebody, actually somebody put
something on my door.
I saw this, and we should talk about this,
because this is partly related to the Luke and Pete show.
It is massively related to the Luke and Pete show.
Tell people what happened.
So every now and again, people will just leave
by virtue of the fact that people seem to find my door fascinating.
I think there's sex workers in there.
They seem to ring my doorbell at all
hours of the day
and I've just
learned to ignore it
now and unless
I'm expecting someone
I answer in the door
why don't you
just unplug it
I can't unplug it
what do you mean
unplug it
we're sure there's
a buzzer kind of
end to it
in your flat
so it's an intercom
oh okay so you can't
which is hardwired
so yeah so you can't
but I mean it's fine
it's all good
I've learned to
deal with that
but people keep leaving things on my intercom
from cans of cork to bifters to bottles of Jamaican wine.
Is it like a less exciting Jim Morrison's grave?
Yeah, it's like little offerings for me, it seems.
And every now and again, I'll take a picture,
but I've noticed that over the road,
you can clearly see what is over the road,
which is a posh booze shop.
And I was like, all right, okay.
People can really tell where I am.
And so somebody actually left,
one person left a Nando's card,
a Nando's loyalty card.
Is there anything on it?
I don't think so, no.
Check it out.
There might be a few quid on there.
I'm not walking into Nando's
just to be told there's nothing on there.
No one's leaving anything of value on there.
And when I came home on Wednesday,
somebody had taped using an unused plaster,
so, you know, a little mercy.
Which makes it bleaker.
A little mercy there.
A handkerchief, which I presume was also unused,
with written pen, a little message saying,
a succulent Chinese meal, I think.
So they're basically saying
I listened to one of your podcasts
and I know where you live.
It's the perfect situation.
Well done on getting into that anyway.
After that, presumably there was
some sort of security detail, some close protection.
There's at least four flats in that building.
They've got a one in four chance of stabbing me.
True.
And I like those odds.
How many of the people
living there are male?
What do you mean?
I was saying...
New building,
how many are male?
They'll have to open
all the doors to find out,
won't they?
It's like an advent calendar.
You don't know what's behind it.
A terrifying advent calendar.
When you leave the house,
though,
they're going to know,
well, he lives there
and that's a man
and that could be Pete.
If it's you and three other women,
the point I'm getting to
is you're the only man
living there,
so you must be Pete,
therefore you're dead. No, I'm saying they... I'm getting to is you're the only man living there so you must be Pete therefore you're dead
no I'm saying
I would they'd have
to if they see me
going in fine they've
seen me they might
know who I am
anyway so but the
whole situation is
there's four flats
one in four chance
of killing me
I also think to add
further to that if
they've taken the time
to stick a succulent
Chinese meal message
on your intercom
they've probably got
the wherewithal to Google your name
and see exactly what you look like.
Yeah, exactly.
The only thing working in your favour is that you look like everyone.
Exactly.
So, yeah, you can have plenty of doppelgangers like Saddam Hussein.
I've been watching a lot of CIA kind of people online on YouTube,
old CIA guys, just sort of looking at films
and sort of seeing whether disguises would be used like
that like watching
films like Mission
Impossible you know
like he's always got a
fake mask yeah he's
like well that wouldn't
really work I mean
because you want to be
less conspicuous and
you can only add to
the face you can't
remove and like
talking about disguises
like that was
fascinating yeah I'd
be pretty interested in
meeting someone who
was who specialized in
disguises for the CIA
maybe it's brilliant if
you if you read like a stock of this picture i know it isn't um cia but if you read john lecarre
stuff the best parts of the bit where well actually if you even read ben mcintyre which is obviously
all true it's kind of really interesting the way they'll leave signs for each other they know they
do dead drops and stuff well they always used to to. And it'll be something like, oh, if you see a paper bag on a railing
with a bit of green cotton around it,
it means the whole thing's off.
Get out of there.
Get out of there.
Yeah.
I find that wonderfully exciting.
And when Gordievsky was rescued
or smuggled out of the Soviet Union,
his sign was,
I think it was to be carrying
on a certain street corner.
In one of the most surveilled societies ever,
standing on a street corner waiting for a of the most surveilled societies ever standing on a
street corner waiting
for a bus with a
plastic Safeway
carrier bag and
if the guy who
was supposed to
smuggle him out
had seen him and
wanted to give him
a sign when he
walked past he
left a Kit Kat on
the dashboard of
the car and then
obviously they
smuggled him out
yeah crazy
that's gonna melt
yeah and I've
heard for you to
be you be smuggled
out the country
it's a piece of paper taped with a plaster to your Instagram.
Get me out.
I'd love that.
It's a forced holiday.
Get you out of there, yeah, exactly, yeah.
All right, shall we take a little break, Pete,
and then do some emails?
Because I'll tell you what,
people have answered the call,
and I'm very excited
at some of the stuff they've sent in.
How to make a long egg.
Keith Cook's there. Julian Assange a long egg. Keith Cook's there.
Julian Assange's there.
I was blinded by Julian Assange.
Julian Assange's there.
He does have lovely white hair.
So lots of people have emailed in
asking about the Julian Assange trope.
And it's hello at lukeandpeachshow.com
if you do want to email in,
as we say every week.
If you're new to the show,
please do send us an email
about anything you like
to hello at lukeandpeachshow.com.
The Julian Assange trope
is that, so we found
a video we liked
of course it had been found before, we didn't discover it
but it was an Australian man being wrestled
out of a restaurant for not paying his bill
and being arrested and I think we shared it on
the at lukeandpeachow
Twitter feed
and someone pointed out, one of our listeners
that when Julian Assange was arrested
from the Ecuadorian embassy,
he looked a lot like that man.
The Democracy Manifest man.
So then when we played This is Democracy Manifest as one of our
jingles, we would always say
Julian Assange there because it looked like it and that
kind of escalated. Not a good enough joke
to be explained, in my opinion.
But if you're going to go down that road,
we can't do any jokes. We got an email saying,
I'm a fairly new listener.
I know who Julian Assange is.
However,
I don't understand why you said
Julian Assange there
after every clip that plays
after the break.
Love the show.
Are Julian Assange there?
Good to hear from Julian Assange.
It's good.
He's got access to emails in prison.
Yeah.
And once again,
if you do want to email,
it's hello at Julian Assange.
Pam Ransom getting in touch there.
She's obsessed with Julian,
isn't she?
Look, he's a caged man.
Like, you know,
it's exciting, isn't it?
It's like, you know,
all those women
who fell in love with Ted Bundy.
Yeah.
I don't think Julian Assange
is a serial killer.
No.
It's pretty harsh on him.
Well, he's exposed
many government assets.
You don't know, do you?
True.
Maybe the knock-on effect
is as severe.
Pounder Anderson
was a huge part
of my teenage years.
But anyway,
let's...
Is that right?
Yeah.
She didn't know it.
Huge or just medium-sized?
She was almost
a dictionary definition
average-sized part
of my teenage years.
Let's go to the emails.
What do you want to do first?
I've got loads of things
to choose from.
We can do childhood games.
We've got...
Yeah, just choose one, mate.
Okay, right, here we go.
What about...
Oh, should we do
a Peter the Dolphin update?
Okay.
Because we did him
a week or two ago.
Peter the Wolf.
Yeah, and Peter the Dolphin.
Go back and listen
to episode 165 and 166
about the guy
it was a woman
a scientist
who was
training a dolphin
one thing led to another
it's part of the routine
she ended up having to
masturbate the dolphin
don't shoot the messenger
it happened
don't wake the messenger
the dolphin later died
the email story was sent
originally by
steady
steady
what
it didn't die from hand jobs
oh no no no
sorry yeah
it's not lethal to dolphins, I'll tell you...
It's not lethal to dolphins.
No, I'll tell you how it died in a minute.
The original email was sent in by Tim Vandenhoek,
and he's replied with some further information.
He said,
Hi, guys.
I thought I'd add a few details
to round out a very strange saga all round.
Luke was indeed right when he said
that Peter the dolphin committed suicide
when the project was winding down.
I mean, this gets bleak, mate,
so strap yourself in here.
He did this by essentially stopping breathing. are apparently conscious breathers i.e they have to actively think and decide to breathe uh they lack the same inbuilt reflex um that humans
and most other mammals have which would make them gasp for breath so when peter knew that his days
of lounging by the research pool and getting hard jobs were over he mentally corked his blowhole and
sank to his death. All this
made me wonder how dolphins manage to survive a night's
sleep, and that led me to reading that they are hemispheric
sleepers. Only one half of their
brains are asleep at any given time,
while the other part stays awake and manages
breathing. Because only one half of their brain is
conscious while in slumber, dolphins
quite literally sleep with one eye open,
bobbing at the surface
in a semi-zombie state.
Oh, wow.
And as if interspecies hand jobs and suicide were not enough,
PETA was also likely dosed with LSD during the research, Pete.
Oh.
The lead scientist was licensed by the US government
to use LSD in experiments,
and some MKUltra-esque open-the-minds true potential scheme
in the harebrained attempt to teach dolphins to speak.
Sadly, though, the LSD had little scheme in the harebrained attempt to teach dolphins to speak. Sadly, though,
the LSD had little effect
on the marine participants
as different animals
metabolised drugs
in different ways,
possibly explaining
why I'm getting nothing
off these gazelle barbiturates.
Lack of hallucinations
is notwithstanding.
I think we can all agree
it was quite a summer
for Peter the dolphin.
So,
a bit more information there, Pete.
Handjobs and psychoactive substances?
I mean, I don't know.
It's easy to look at things through the lens of the modern day
and be morally bad.
It's like the Beatles of the dolphin world.
Yeah, should you really be dropping a micro dot on a dolphin's tongue?
You know, that's abuse, right?
The dolphin thinks it's getting a nice sweet,
and it's getting a bit of...
A nice sweet?
Yeah.
Oh, can I have a nice sweet, please?
I don't know how dolphins feel.
Mind you, if you get to the point where you're actually literally wanking them off
I suppose
the morals are out the window
anything to calm them down
he probably doesn't even know
he's a dolphin
with all that LSD
I lived with a guy
who was in
not Dyke House
that was a school
from my youth
what is it
Grange Hill
alright yeah
I've never spoken about this guy before
where's that come from
who was it
who did he play
he was famous
I can't remember who he played,
but he was famous.
Do I know him?
You might have seen the episode.
No, but do I know the guy?
Have I met him?
No.
Okay, right.
And he would,
in the TV show Grinch Hill,
he played a character that was,
he'd been given some tattoos,
little kind of square tattoos.
Oh, I think I remember this episode.
And he licked them.
And then he was,
he put the tattoos
he put the tattoo
on his body
and then it was
in the class
and he started
flipping out
the teacher was
going what's wrong
with you
Keith or whatever
his name is
and he's like
I'm not mental
and then he
threatened to
throw himself
off the balcony
and the disabled
girl helped him
some kind of
message to say
disabled people
are cool too yeah and rightly so yeah but it's just a weird thing to sort of say, disabled people are cool too.
Yeah,
and rightly so.
Yeah,
but it's just a weird thing to sort of go,
like I wouldn't think
that a disabled person
could give a child
that kind of go.
I'm thinking that
they're somehow
incapable of being pleasant
even though it was just
a spina bifida or something.
Yeah,
I went to a school
which was so rough
that we all...
I remember at the time
being rather upset
with the inference,
that's all.
I did that,
I thought,
oh...
What's this got to do
with giving LSD to dolphins
mainly the LSD
but I live with a guy
who was famous
for taking LSD
when we used to get pissed
we used to make him do the
I'm so angry at my teacher
kind of throw all his stuff
on the floor
in the kebab shop
what a chap
completely undermining
his career as well
is he now the main
what is he now
is he Don Draper in Mad Men?
Did he turn out to be?
Well, he's in Los Angeles
and he's writing for the Daily Mail.
So there we go.
He writes the Daily Mail celebrity.
I don't know how to react to that.
Fraff.
Because the first part of that
I'm very impressed by.
The school I went to was quite rough
and at one point
we all got sent home for the afternoon
because a troubled child
in the year below me
um was standing on the balcony on the fourth floor of the english block threatening to throw
himself off christ yeah does that make it rough or just you know well even at the time i remember
thinking i'm not sure this really should be happening at school um i don't know what's
happened to the guy now i hope he's well um i's well I don't really know if he had the support he needed
shall we put it that way
but the school was rough
first year of
first year of
my mate's school
mate's uni
a lad threw himself off the
terrible
in Lancaster
did you have fights every day
at your school
not you personally
but were there fights every day
yeah there was like the odd
yeah it was quite
it was quite tasty
but it was more just like lads from other schools coming oh was it there was another school I remember a big lad there was like the odds yeah it was quite it was quite tasty but it was more just like
lads from other
schools coming
oh was it
there was another
school close by
I remember a big
lad who was like
just turned up
out of school
and I was like
I was like 12
and this lad
he must have been
about 18, 19
I was just walking
to class
when it was really
quiet in between
I bet you were so
cute as a 12 year old
and this bloke
this bloke just
started kicking me
up the arse
like 2 or three times.
He just attacked a child for no reason.
Right.
And that is troubled.
That is a troubled man.
Shouldn't be doing that, should he?
He shouldn't be kicking children up the arse.
Was he 18 or was he really about 14?
No, he was big.
He wasn't wearing his school uniform or anything,
so he wasn't going to the school.
Very strange behaviour.
Yeah.
I remember getting a few scrapes myself,
outnumbered here or there.
But I didn't cry or anything. Sorry. I remember getting a few scrapes myself. Outnumbered here or there. But I didn't cry or
anything. I just thought, sorry?
Very British. I realise I'm very
British in these situations. Did you just ignore him? Sorry, what are you?
What? No! Ah! What happened?
Did you leg it? No, I didn't even leg it. I just walked off.
Like, he didn't sort of chase me. He wasn't like
Right. He wasn't like enraged.
Was it Michael Brown?
The footballer Michael Brown who used to
trouble you as a child. He used to trouble you as a child.
He didn't trouble me as a child.
I thought you met him
when he was really good at football
and you got upset.
I mean,
he was literally playing
for Manchester City
when we played on the park.
So yeah,
he would have been good.
I'm surprised he was allowed to play
because the Burn Valley
was not a great place to play soccer.
Different time, mate.
And a man turned up with a hammer
and threatened one of his friends.
That's what I was thinking of, yeah.
Quick one before we go
from Jay who says,
hi guys, grew up in
Danville, California,
a quiet outer suburb
within the San Francisco
Bay area.
And in reference to
the game of knocking
on doors and quickly
running away, we would
call it doorbell
ditching or ding-dong
ditching.
I'm sure this is fairly
common for most of
California and possibly
even the US.
Cheers, Jay.
So the reason I brought that to the table is just it's nice
to get a universal look, kind of a global look
at what we would call the same game in different places
because language is fascinating for that.
A Tucker's look.
Yes, absolutely.
And so in Danville, California, it was called doorbell-ditching.
Doorbell-ditching.
But I would imagine in the US it's quite hard to play it
because the gardens are massive
you need a car
and the houses
are very separate
very sort of like
spread apart
the great part
about doing it
where I grew up
is the house
were terraced
so you would just
run along all of them
bang bang bang bang
and you're away
you're like Brian Adams
waking up the neighbours
and I was going to
run to you
that song's a bit weird
isn't it
yeah it's about cheating on your wife he's just sort of going to run to you that song's a bit weird isn't it yeah it's about cheating
on your wife
he's just sort of going
I want to fuck you
you're not my wife
like that is basically
the song isn't it
he's a very
he's a very
celebrated
photographer now
isn't he
photographer now
took a picture of
he's good friends
with Lady Diana
wasn't he
Lady Diana
Lady Diana
Lady Diana
yeah
alright cool look let's get out of here Pete and we will see everyone on Thursday don't he? Lady Diana. Lady Diana. Lady Diana. Yeah.
All right,
cool.
Look,
let's get out of here,
Pete,
and we will see everyone on Thursday.
All right,
then.
I hope you have a lovely
week and you feel less tired
and I hope you make use
of that pocket square as well.
I really appreciate that.
It's very touching.
You're welcome.
Hello at LukeandPetecher.com
to get in touch.
We'll be back on Thursday
with episode 168.
Don't go changing,
you guys.
You are perfect
as you are
and that's exactly
as it should be
you are beautiful
no matter what they say
this was a Radio Stakhanov production
do you need a massage there?