The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 173: Kebab shop etiquette

Episode Date: June 3, 2019

What's it like to live off-grid for nearly 80 years? And could Pete Donaldson do it? Just two of the things we're investigating on today's episode, along with a man who went the extra mile to ensure h...is children always enjoyed their birthdays, and an impromptu edition of Kids Say The Funniest/Creepiest Things.Elsewhere there's a lot of kebab shop chat, including Pete predictably trying to order an off menu item. How very on-brand...To tell us about your kebab shop order, email us: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 yeah boss oh i wasn't built to get up this time it's the luke and pete show yeah boss happy monday peter all we're doing shouting yeah boss yeah boss yeah it's quite satisfying you do it uh yeah boss see yes yes there was a man who used to sell drugs in Camden and he'd stand by the bridge going, yes, yes, yes, yes, which was shorthand for I have drugs. Yeah. Translated into the common tongue, that is, would you like to buy some drugs from me?
Starting point is 00:00:36 Would you like to buy some narcotics? Someone did a good tweet recently, which was, yeah, being told for the first time that someone loves you is great and everything, but have you ever been called big man by the guy in the kebab shop big man yeah the big man love that i am the big man finally someone respects me the guy kebab shop vernacular is fascinating the guy in the um because back in the day you spend a lot of time in kebab shops right at the end of the night out don't really do anymore anymore, but used to.
Starting point is 00:01:07 And there was a guy who... You know when people move to, say, this country from somewhere else, and they really get involved in a certain aspect of British culture, and it's really endearing? So this guy, who ran the kebab shop at the top of the high street in the town I grew up in, which was called Ocean Breeze. Ocean Breeze. It's quite near the harbour. I mean, to be fair, it's a very romantic title
Starting point is 00:01:27 for what was quite a downhill part of town. He was clearly obsessed with only fools and horses. Right, okay. So when he was serving, he always used to say, yes, please, lovely jobbly. Lovely jobbly. It was amazing. Yes, please, lovely jobbly.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Loads of money. And he had a picture of Del that delboy and rodney trotter hanging out of the yellow three-wheeler nice on the counter behind on the wall behind the counter i like that that is adorable yeah but that was where the theme stopped he's not committed to it they weren't like any kind of like um ceremonial rodney trotter meals or anything no but another I can remember you you plonker Rodney
Starting point is 00:02:07 Rodney you plonker chips plonker kebab plonker get yourself a plonker it's a king size kebab talk to me about your kebab shop etiquette
Starting point is 00:02:15 back in the day because I would never eat in because that's where the fights used to happen yeah no there's nothing to be gained from eating in no just yeah
Starting point is 00:02:23 mainly just a lot of kebab meat. I didn't go with the pitters. I mean, I should be really rakish thin, but because I never used to eat any carbs, but yeah, it was just basically kebab, garlic sauce. I'll see you later. I think I spoke about this before.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I tried to make a man. I paid him a good 10 pounds to make me a kebab sausage, like as in gouge a sausage out of the kebab meat to make myself a big sausage. So that's his moneymaker, that spinning thing. He's not going to do that. There was very little left and it was a Wednesday night. What did he say?
Starting point is 00:02:52 He said, it's not going to be cooked. Oh, right. I hear that a lot. It's not going to be cooked. He said, make sure you take it home and eat and put it in the microwave for two minutes. So my niece... I didn't.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I ate it immediately. Sucks to be you, mate. My niece... So he did it and you ate it uncooked? Yeah. The inside was uncooked. The outside was cooked.
Starting point is 00:03:12 How are you... But hang on a minute. How are you even alive? All that stuff's already cooked. It's the salad that kills you. The salad's bad for germs, apparently. My niece, she's three
Starting point is 00:03:22 and she loves eating sausages. But she's the only person who I know who likes them anywhere near as much as you do. And every time you have a conversation with her, what do you want for lunch? Obviously, straight away, chocolate. We can't have chocolate. All right, sausages.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Every meal, sausages. The hierarchy is chocolate, well, you're not having that, sausages, and if there's no sausages, a hard-boiled egg. And it's roughly reminiscent of kind of what I can imagine you going through in your mind. Whenever I hear the words hard-boiled egg, I think about a childish rhyme we used to do in the schoolyard. Isn't it a pity the woman in the city got hit on the titty
Starting point is 00:03:58 with a hard-boiled egg? Whoa, I've never heard that one before. No, nobody really has. I wonder where it came from. So your kebab shop order is a load of doner meat, garlic sauce. See you later. Close the lid. See you later.
Starting point is 00:04:10 How much did you pay for that back in the day? A few quid probably. Three quid? Yeah, a couple of quid. It was obviously a bit cheaper than having the pita. Who wants the pita? Bore off. Mine would be probably, I think back in the day, doner meat in a pita.
Starting point is 00:04:23 So doner kebab with a bit of salad, lots of onions, loads of garlic sauce, and then chips as well. Yeah. To wonder why we were such lotharios back in the day with that kind of breath. And I wonder why we hold on. Was that Curtis Stigers? With tears in our eyes. He's quite
Starting point is 00:04:39 good value on Twitter these days. Hello at LukeandPetecher.com with your kebab shop stories. This is a fascinating topic. I'll tell you why. One, because everyone will have one if they're based in the UK. And two, I'm going to say outside of the UK and Ireland,
Starting point is 00:04:55 there's not really a kebab shop culture. So it's going to be a nice, interesting insight for people listening out. Yeah, but that's much better there. I'll tell you what, when I lived in Auckland, I remember I had a job for you what, when I lived in Auckland, you used to be able to get, I remember I had a job for a bit and I remember the first time
Starting point is 00:05:10 I saw someone come back and at lunchtime with a doner kebab. Right. And I was like, what is that? That is a brave move, isn't it? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:05:17 At lunchtime? Yeah. Sober. But he was like, no, no, honestly, they're really nice. So I walked down there a couple of days later.
Starting point is 00:05:27 It's kebab time. Beautiful quality meat, wrapped properly in almost like a quite aerated naan type bread. Right. So it almost looked a bit like a burrito. Yeah. With sauce in there and salad. It was absolutely delicious. But I had to say to him at the time, if you go to the UK, don't have one of those at lunch.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Don't do that. Please do not. I don't even't have one of those at lunch please do not I don't even know if they're open at lunchtime Iceland used to do or Heron food like frozen foods
Starting point is 00:05:50 the food shop would have four little frozen kebabs sorry Heron frozen I've never heard of that yeah it's like a northern thing
Starting point is 00:05:58 possibly but it was a frozen kebab the pita with the with the doner meat in it and you'd you'd cook it in the microwave and it would have a little portion of chilli sauce and you'd pour on it But it was a frozen kebab, the pita, with the doner meat in it. And you'd cook it in the microwave.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And it would have a little portion of chili sauce in your par on it. I used to, wolf falls down when I was a kid. Delicious. But do you objectively know that they are terrible? What do you mean? So are you actually eating this going, this is amazing? Or are you going, for what it is, it's actually all right. But I know this is horrendous.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Oh, no. I don't think I had that much scope. As I said, my mum wasn't a gifted chef, cook. So she would just let you walk to the frozen food shop, get the microwave, and walk to kebabs? No, she'd buy them for us.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Really? Yeah. She'd buy us all kinds of crap. Your sister used to do all that stuff as well? Yeah. Buggered. Did you ever have a proper meal
Starting point is 00:06:38 when you were a kid? What do you mean? I'm taking a break. I'm going to be back with some emails. I'm taking a break. You can't take a break, Pete. Why? We're fucking six minutes in. We're not having a break I'm going to be back with some emails I'm taking a drop you can't take a break Pete why? we're fucking six minutes in
Starting point is 00:06:48 we're not having a break now we've got a lot of emails talk to me about your roast dinners on a Sunday they're not good my mum will never hear this and we're not taking a break because I want to talk to you
Starting point is 00:06:58 about a woman who I found on the BBC website I'm glad that last bit of the sentence came here she is here she is I found a woman sit down no I'm glad that last bit of the sentence came. Here she is. Here she is.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Sit down. No, listen to this. You'll love this, Pete. This is a bit of you, this. All right. Margaret Gallagher is her name. Right. And she has lived... It's better be worth not going to the second half of the break.
Starting point is 00:07:17 She has lived off-grid in Ireland. Yeah. I think it's not. Possibly Northern Ireland. A bit shaky ground there, but it's not, possibly Northern Ireland, bit, bit, bit sort of shaky ground there, but it's that part of the world. Mm. Um,
Starting point is 00:07:28 off grid since, uh, she was born in 1942. Right. Okay. So she's never had any electricity in her house, never had any running water. And she's lived that way,
Starting point is 00:07:41 uh, ever since she was been born. And now she lives alone, um, off grid. And she says, I'm doing it cause I'm. And now she lives alone, off-grid. And she says, I'm doing it because I like doing it, not because I'm a hippie, although I think it's new and fashionable.
Starting point is 00:07:51 My childhood was over at 10. My father took the bed with severe arthritis, so it was never feasible for me to do anything else. And she's lived in this 18th century cottage, thatched cottage, which has been in her family since the 1700s and it's never had any electricity or running water.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I think that's absolutely fascinating. It is fascinating, but I mean, it's just the arrogance of modern life that we think that, that we have this idea of off-grid.
Starting point is 00:08:14 We've been living that way for centuries. Could you do that? No, God, no. No. As long as I had Wi-Fi, maybe. I think that kind of doesn't count. Where would I get
Starting point is 00:08:21 my frozen kebabs? Yeah, but how long would you last if you had to live? Probably longer than I do now. Yeah. In all the trappings of modern life, we'll be taking a considerable amount off my life. But I think that she, I mean, the thing is,
Starting point is 00:08:37 surely she goes and buys food and stuff still. She may cook it on a fire and boil water from it. Exactly. Someone must be supplying her with food, presumably. No? food and stuff still. She may cook it on a fire and boil water from it. Exactly. Someone must be supplying her with food, presumably. No? It doesn't really say,
Starting point is 00:08:49 but I presume she's going to the shops to buy it. I mean, she's not killing, she's killing all her food and everything. I just think it's an interesting kind of way to live
Starting point is 00:08:57 and it's funny. I'll tell you what really brings it home for you and this has probably happened to you as well is when you get a power cut and you're like I'm down to bare bones now
Starting point is 00:09:08 yeah what what am I going to do because first your first instance thinking is to go on the phone to try and find out when it's going to be sorted
Starting point is 00:09:16 yeah but you've got no wifi so you have to make sure you've got phone coverage then you think right what I need to do is
Starting point is 00:09:22 find some candles and now I live with my wife that's doable because she's got candles everywhere in the house back in the day Then you think, right, what I need to do is find some candles. And now I live with my wife, that's doable, because she's got candles everywhere in the house. Back in the day... Does she have Yankee candles? No. They're quite popular. A couple.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I know she's American. A couple, but generally we just have candles when we have, I don't know, it's nice when it's getting twilight and we have dinner or whatever. But back in the day, I'd never have any candles. So that's an example of what it's like. But I guess the difference is between her and us is that our houses and our homes
Starting point is 00:09:49 aren't geared up for that off-grid business, are they? Whereas hers obviously is. But you would be all right, I reckon. You just, I mean, I reckon your dad would absolutely love it. Well, it's more, no, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:01 But he... He can watch DVDs though. He can watch his DVDs. Yeah, but we don't get as many power cuts as we used to I remember I was talking about
Starting point is 00:10:08 the lack of insects you know we talk about people have been talking about how there's much fewer insects nowadays and it's true like I remember
Starting point is 00:10:17 there was just there was just some periods where you just see loads and loads of blue bottles and midges and all that stuff
Starting point is 00:10:23 and you just don't see it and apparently there's been a massive cut in the amount of insects, and certainly in the UK anyway. But in this case, yeah, we don't get power cuts half as much anymore. I think I've had one,
Starting point is 00:10:34 just simply because I live in the centre of town. I never had one when I lived out in... I can't remember. Zone 2 of London. Our water gets... We've got a terrible problem where I live with water. I think the water pipes are really,
Starting point is 00:10:47 yeah. Right. And Thames Water, who are an absolute fucking disgrace. And I don't want to get political because it's not really the show for it,
Starting point is 00:10:55 but I'll tell you, what is the point of fucking privatisation if you were going to privatise it to one company? The whole point, I mean, whether you agree
Starting point is 00:11:02 with privatisation or not, the whole premise of it is to set up competition, to drive prices down, to get better service for less money, but there's no competition in water because you have to have Thames water. There's no investment in the, when you privatise
Starting point is 00:11:16 something, just like the rails, there's no, as a company, there is, if the contract only runs for say five years or seven years, there is no need for them to invest in the infrastructure because they know
Starting point is 00:11:28 they're going to be able to make that money back Pete honestly I remember about six months ago the water just went off right for no reason so like
Starting point is 00:11:35 what the fuck's happening right so you go onto the website look at terms oh yeah we're aware of the incident whatever and actually the first time
Starting point is 00:11:43 it happened I called them and told them and they didn't know anything about it and then they sent me a text saying, the first time it happened, I called them and told them and they didn't know anything about it. And then they sent me a text saying, by the way,
Starting point is 00:11:48 your water's turned. I was like, yeah, I fucking know that. I told you that. And then I found myself in 2018 walking with my wife
Starting point is 00:11:56 down to the shop to get water and there was no water in the shops because everyone had bought it. Oh, everyone had got involved. So we had to go back,
Starting point is 00:12:03 get in the car, drive about a mile away and get loads of bottled water. The second time it happened, without warning, when they were working on pipes, they didn't even tell us, I was in the middle of a shower
Starting point is 00:12:14 and I had shampoo in my hair. No joke. It's ridiculous. Oh, that would be lovely. I remember going crazy at my wife going Mim you need to go out of the shop
Starting point is 00:12:26 she was like why I said come here come here I'm in the shower the water's over I shampooed over my face I was like get your shoes on go to the shop
Starting point is 00:12:33 get some water for me it's just crazy but anyway power cuts we've been alright could you not have used milk could have done couldn't I
Starting point is 00:12:39 that's for pepper spray but that's what you do with pepper spray right if you get pepper spray you pour milk's what you do with pepper spray, right? If you get pepper spray, you pour milk in your face. Is it not capuchin? Capsicum. Capsicum.
Starting point is 00:12:55 When I was in Santorini, there was a power cut for about half an hour. Oh, yeah, I'll get that. And I think it happens a lot, obviously, in places like Nigeria and that kind of stuff. Anyway, now we can have a break, Pete, because we've talked about living off grid and power cuts, and that was really important to me. Alright then, I'm going to press this button and then we'll be back. Journey starts when you say so. If you've got five minutes or 50, Peloton Tread has workouts you can work in. Or bring your classes with you for outdoor runs, walks, and hikes, led by expert instructors on the Peloton app.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Call yourself a runner. Peloton All Access Membership Separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. I'm pretty chilled out about this, actually. I've had five pints of Guinness and my wife just left me for another man. I can't mention her name. Jackie, I'm sorry about that. So actually, you know, the fact that it's a four-hour delay on a flight doesn't bother me.
Starting point is 00:13:58 The more I hear that, the better that joke gets. The delivery's quite not as bad as I thought it was the first time I heard it. If you haven't had the luxury of seeing what that man looks like, don't worry. He looks exactly like you think he does. Yeah. There we go.
Starting point is 00:14:17 He looks like a man who's lost a wife. Oh, that's a shame. It's time for the email section of the show. Although we are quite loosely attached to these kind of features. show. What do you mean? It's time for the email section of the show, although we are quite loosely attached to these kind of features. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com is the place to get in touch, as we always say,
Starting point is 00:14:32 and you are very welcome to do so. Current backlog is at 421 emails, which I know a lot of those will be spam from when people signed us up to that shit. I would say 300 of those. But we were running low about two weeks ago, and now we've come right back up to speed again so thank you very much to everyone who has done so so far um here's i'm just going to get this one done pete because
Starting point is 00:14:53 this one is from a week or two ago and i am i didn't get around to reading it and i promised the guy on the show a couple weeks ago that i would get to it at some point so um here we are yes so this is from philip who says luke and p i'm pretty sure you'll not have heard anything like this before i'm from a large family of eight five boys and three girls and this made of course for a total of 10 including the parents as luck would then have it there were not many months that had two birthdays in and so they were spread evenly throughout the year. And the birthday in December was early and had no real impact on the Christmas gift situation. As a family, we celebrated my father's birthday
Starting point is 00:15:35 every year in early April. My mother giving my dad a few quid to go to the pub and have a good old time and a special dinner or meal awaiting on his return. Every year, even when we became teens and young adults, leaving home and having our own children, that's what would happen. It wasn't until he died,
Starting point is 00:15:49 and the paperwork was being reconciled, that it became apparent that his birthday was actually in late May. A very British problem taken to an extreme. And Philip says, keep up the good work. At 59, I feel quite young to be listening to your show. So basically, what Philip is saying is, to maintain the equilibrium throughout the year of birthdays,
Starting point is 00:16:08 his old man has jumped on a grenade there and said, I'll celebrate my birthday in early April. I don't mind. That's good. I like that. I think they should be, because I've got a couple of mates who are like June 8th, June 9th, June 10th, June 11th.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And it's kind of hard to sort of choose which ones to hang out with on that weekend. Can't they do a joint thing they might not know each other that's the problem my friend Chris always used to complain back in the
Starting point is 00:16:29 this is a very first world problem but he always used to complain that his birthday was on the 4th of January which was right in the eye of the I'm a bit blown out after Christmas
Starting point is 00:16:37 I've got no money kind of storm and no one would ever want to go out for his birthday that is depressing but what he doesn't know is it was because
Starting point is 00:16:42 we just didn't like him very much but don't you think that's a really great dad thing to do and what Phil doesn't know is it was because we just didn't like him but that's a really great dad thing to do and what Phil doesn't mention in that and I think is intimated
Starting point is 00:16:50 and implied but it's not stated and I think it should be stated his dad's a bloody good egg because he's done the good thing there he
Starting point is 00:16:56 doesn't want to crowd anyone else's birthday take anything away from any of his children's birthdays but he still wants one he definitely wants one
Starting point is 00:17:02 he wants to go to the pub for a beer sponsored by his wife. Good for him. But he's done a good thing there and I respect it. Wonderful. I just hope that his family
Starting point is 00:17:11 endorse and enjoy that particular change in the time. Brad from Century, which is in Florida, apparently. Century, Florida. Century, Florida.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Listener from day one, sporadic emailer. We've talked about, I'm sure we've done like kids say the funniest things at emails before, but these are quite good. A little more somber mood than times before. Waiting in the hospital over the last week. Looks like my wife is set to deliver our fourth daughter within the next day at 31 weeks
Starting point is 00:17:37 with a few complications. So I thought I'd drop a line in the meantime. A lot of people listen to the Luke and Pete show through births, deaths, marriages. Yeah, it's nice. It's lovely to hear whatever you've got on your plate, but I hope everything goes swimmingly after this. With my mind on my kids, I thought I'd share some of the best knowledge they've dropped on me
Starting point is 00:17:53 over the five years, or sorry, over the years. Well, my oldest two daughters, they can speak well enough for me to understand their five and six now. I know it drags on a bit. Read what you care to. Some are quite philosophical, and I agree. I think they are. Brad from Century in Florida.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Elsa, four years old, says, I'm thirsty and I want junk mail. Just pouring a big sack of junk mail. My niece of a week, we always just sat around. She went to my mum, obviously her nana. She went, nana?
Starting point is 00:18:23 And my mum went, yeah. She went, do you want to go on a date nana? And my mum went, yeah, she went, do you want to go on a date with me? That's good, I like that. There was a video of some kids finding out that
Starting point is 00:18:32 they were going to be brothers, they were already brothers I guess, but they were going to be joined by someone else without a baby. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:18:38 here's the picture of the baby. And they went, it's a baby, you're pregnant. And then the other one went, when did you have sex?
Starting point is 00:18:46 Cheeky. Elsa, four, I wish the world would start over. I'm ready to be a baby again. That's good. I love Elsa, she's great news. Hey, old painty, talking about a can of paint that they dropped on the parking lot at dance class three months earlier.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Hey, old painty, even if you're, even if you're all dried up, we still love you. Oh, that's cute. Talking about some dry paint. This is, this is reminding me of a, I can't find it anywhere online.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I've looked before. There's a great, do you remember, I think it might be that show that they did where they followed kids all through their lives every couple of years
Starting point is 00:19:20 or whatever. I might be conflating the two things, but anyway, it was certainly a sort of 80s-ish documentary of these kids. i think they're about five at the time there's one kid there with this kind of like he was like a real little cockney kid and he had like a remember we all used to wear those little pullover vest jumpers yes and they had like a
Starting point is 00:19:36 big collar underneath it and he was at school and he had like long hair and he was this uh and they would they would sit him down they would do pieces to camera with him and sometimes they'd be really unintentionally funny and this particular kid I remember it like it was clear as a bell and the interviewer says to him
Starting point is 00:19:52 what do you like? and he's like I like football what don't you like? he goes I don't like girls girls are stinky or whatever
Starting point is 00:20:02 and the guy goes to what would you do if a girl tried to start talking to you and he goes I'll kick her in the head just you know that's
Starting point is 00:20:12 rules to live your life by Madeline Six says I wish I could just sneeze all the time I get that though Elsa what I get that because
Starting point is 00:20:21 it's a very nice feeling isn't it sneezing not if you've got loads of them though it can be quite an annoyance but you know when one's a very nice feeling isn't it sneezing not if you've got loads of them though they can be quite an annoyance but you know when one's building up yeah and the release of it
Starting point is 00:20:29 yeah is very very enjoyable does orgasm make sense than an orgasm is it apparently no that's what they say
Starting point is 00:20:34 in the schoolyard Elsa in the schoolyard sorry back in the day yeah let's make that very clear Elsa Elsa
Starting point is 00:20:39 Elsa says bring me q-tips I love them but I will not marry them because they don't have lips or hands that's fair enough yeah don't put q-tips I love them but I will not marry them because they don't have lips or hands that's fair enough don't put Q-tips in your ears kids that's a very important point by the way
Starting point is 00:20:51 Elsa and Madeline talking to each other my imaginary friend died but I thought you had two they both died and they're babies oh dear and finally for now
Starting point is 00:20:59 there's a couple here if an alligator this is Madeline after I told hand knives and BB guns wouldn't kill an alligator. She says, if an alligator tried to get me, I would get a BB gun and I'd put blueberries in it, poison ones, and then I'd
Starting point is 00:21:11 kill the alligator. Brave. Good plan. Good plan. Brave. Madeline, when my lip bleeds, I just like to suck the blood back into my body because if you use a paper towel to wipe it off, then the paper towel will go to the dump and it's like you're throwing yourself away. True. I'm having that, Madeline. I'm putting that on a t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And finally for now, Madeline's final quote. Remember that man that we met at the hospital when we went to see grandma that said he flipped his car? That is something you could do like in a talent show.
Starting point is 00:21:35 That's really talented. I mean, if he wouldn't have lost his arm. Oh, Madeline, Elsa, and in turn, Brad from Century, that's in Florida. Thank you for your dispatch. There's also a good line in, yeah, thanks for that, that was great. There's also a good line
Starting point is 00:21:51 of, there's a good line of people who share creepy things their kids have said. Have you heard that? So like, things like, I've got a list of them here, and people contribute the things that their kids have said to them which have really freaked them out. And one is walking past an old cemetery
Starting point is 00:22:08 my then three year old son casually said my brother is in there when I reminded him that he didn't have a brother he says no mum from before
Starting point is 00:22:15 when the other lady was my mum oh god frightening this one's good I was tucking in my two year old he said
Starting point is 00:22:22 goodbye dad I said no we say goodnight. He said, I know, but this time it's goodbye. And the dad says, I had to go back in there every half an hour just to check on him,
Starting point is 00:22:33 make sure he was still there. It's funny, isn't it, man? Because this is something that if, you know, something happened, he'd be like, he fucking warned me. He fucking warned me. And the funny one now is,
Starting point is 00:22:42 he said, this one guy said, when my son was small, I was talking to him about growing potatoes. And this is just so weird. It's like so innocuous, but it is the creepiest thing. So he's got his kid,
Starting point is 00:22:55 he's a three-year-old, and he's talking to him about growing potatoes. It's a good thing to do, right? Educate kids about how stuff grows and everything. And he says, I was describing how we do it, and we bank up the mud and the ground around the potatoes, and we make sure we wash them and stuff. And he says, I was describing how we do it and we bank up the mud and the ground around the potatoes
Starting point is 00:23:06 and we make sure we wash them and stuff. And apparently at the end of it, the kid just went, I used to do that when I was an old man. Oh no. It's not nice, is it? So spooky. Funny.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But let's go back to, actually it's kind of a similar type of subject. This is from Stephen in Cardiff. He talks about his mother dishing out punishment because episode 169, I said I was grounded by my mum for saying the F word, which you then
Starting point is 00:23:36 said, Pete, apparently that was harsh. not worth the grounding. Stephen's got in touch saying he wishes his mother was as lenient as both of yours seemem to have been My mum once grounded me For a month For a month For drinking her last can
Starting point is 00:23:52 Of black currant tango Look Black currant tango Is a long lost Beautiful drink When I told my mates this It led to them Coming to my house
Starting point is 00:24:02 Almost every day Of this month To remind me That I'd been tangoed. So I was only 14 and he said, oh, my sister was once grounded for two weeks for saying the swear word bloody which she heard on Harry Potter. I don't know what she would have done
Starting point is 00:24:17 if she actually caught me swearing. I think she may have killed me. Anyway, I'm now in my mid-twenties and she's too old to chase me so I'll say whatever the fuck I want. Keep up the good work. That's from Stephen. But that is very harsh. That is very harsh.
Starting point is 00:24:29 One thing that's also come through on emails about being grounded as a kid, and this is quite an interesting one. Were you ever grounded, Pete?
Starting point is 00:24:39 I stole some books from school. That wasn't... Whoa, hang on a minute. That was a poor... I've spoken about this before, but yeah, I stole some books from school. That wasn't... Whoa, hang on a minute. That was a poor... I've spoken about this before, but yeah, I stole some books
Starting point is 00:24:47 and they ran me for a couple of months. That was pretty hefty. I deserved it. A couple of months? Well, like, I was... Maybe just a month, but I remember just being in the house quite a lot because I'd been naughty.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Well, the tactics were, when you were grounded, was to make yourself subtly annoying. So annoying. Yeah, so you could... Like you can go up was to make yourself subtly annoying. So annoying. Yeah. So you could... Like you can go up to them. But something that's been made clear on email, and actually from thinking about it now and being reminded of it, some of my friends were the same when we were kids.
Starting point is 00:25:14 For me, being grounded was just that I couldn't go out. And that was a killer, because I love going outside. But a lot of my friends, when were grounded TV out the room no video games okay certain foods weren't allowed right and you couldn't go out right
Starting point is 00:25:30 so there was very much a sliding scale on what was allowed allowed and what wasn't so when you were grounded it was just that you couldn't go out so there was different
Starting point is 00:25:38 yeah I still had all my home comforts actually the big punishment is my dad would take the fuse out of my computer plug. What are we talking about? Is it an X-Spectrum? Omega 12,
Starting point is 00:25:49 Omega 6, Omega 500 plus, I think. And bearing in mind that my dad has fuses all over the house. Just found another one.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Just found another one. 12-amp fuse. Put it back in. So did you make sure you got the right one? Sweet as a nut. I know my fuses, bitch. What would have happened
Starting point is 00:26:03 if you didn't get the right fuse? Well, it depends if there's a power surge or not, I suppose, isn't it? Or if my fuses, bitch. What would have happened if you didn't get the right fuse? Well, it depends if there was a power surge or not, I suppose, isn't it? Or if it was drawing too much power. I used to push the boundaries by going down to the bottom
Starting point is 00:26:10 of the garden, climbing up on top of the shed and watching my friends who all played in the back alley behind our house and actually hanging out with them but not leaving the perimeter. Not actually leaving the perimeter.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah. Yeah. And I would negotiate my parents with that. I'd be like, because I was quite a precocious, pretentious child. Oh, really? As you can imagine. I would say, well, hang on a be like because I was quite a precocious pretentious child oh really as you can imagine
Starting point is 00:26:27 I would say well hang on a minute no no hang on a minute you said I can't leave the house but this is the grounds of the house yeah
Starting point is 00:26:32 I'm sticking to it and then what I would also do if it was a really hot day my mum was like a little bit you know doing stuff around the house I would just follow her around asking her questions
Starting point is 00:26:41 that kind of stuff until she would say look alright it's been a couple days now yeah groundings yeah groundings yeah groundings are very much a phytic victory
Starting point is 00:26:49 for parents yeah because you're just in a situation where you're just where you've kind of made the child follow you around
Starting point is 00:26:56 and you're just going to be probably like it but also in our late 30s a month goes like that yeah a month when you're a kid is ridiculous like a six week holiday when you're a kid is ridiculous
Starting point is 00:27:05 like a six week holiday when you're a kid it literally used to feel like forever I thought you couldn't feel the end in sight and I know for a fact that we're probably going to have I think maybe five weeks
Starting point is 00:27:15 this summer where we're going to be doing different bits and pieces and we won't be doing as much stuff and to me I'm thinking that's not that long no
Starting point is 00:27:21 not in the world of podcasts podcasts podcasts yeah have we got five weeks i thought it was less than that either way everything always feels like more work than it actually isn't it yeah we'll throw out we'll throw out we'll thrash that i've kind of maneuvered myself into a situation in my life where even uh not even moderate amount of work if i have to be in a place for an hour i'm like oh i've got to be in a place for an hour rubbish yeah i know what you mean and we should maintain
Starting point is 00:27:46 some perspective shouldn't we that's very very important because it wasn't hugely at one point you were cutting up pork for a job I was patching calls
Starting point is 00:27:54 in a call centre through to my friend's mobile phones true rather than doing actual work so it could be worse I remember getting
Starting point is 00:28:01 I remember having a job where I was properly monitored about whether I was properly monitored about whether I was allowed to go to the toilet or not. They say call centres, I don't know if it's got any better now, but they say call centres are like the modern day workhouses. Yeah, hugely. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Zero hours contracts and also nobody getting paid a living wage and also terrible working conditions. And people are just... And that's just here at Radio Stakhanov. It is that we pay everyone fairly. And that's the right way Radio Stakhanov it isn't we pay everyone fairly and that's the right way to be the only people who don't pay
Starting point is 00:28:29 fairly are Pete Donaldson because he's got no use for conventional money I heard yeah I'm living off grid I heard a rival set up like ours looking for
Starting point is 00:28:39 work experience over the summer for free labour I'm not having that no people they released something saying oh we need you to do this but you won't get paid but it'll be great experience that is a of the summer for free labor. I'm not having that. No, people, they released something saying, oh, we need you to do this
Starting point is 00:28:47 but you won't get paid but it'll be great experience. That is a cop-out. Pay people. Not in 2019, mate. In the words of Ray Liotta in Goodfellas
Starting point is 00:28:55 talking about Jimmy Conway, fuck you, pay me. Yeah, alright, anyway, let's go. Alright then. That's enough slagging off of other people. We'll do some of that
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