The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 176: A Tunnock's celebration
Episode Date: June 13, 2019Hello everyone! We're back, and celebrating Boyd Tunnock's knighthood. Richly deserved for a great man who's made a fantastic contribution to society (and Luke's waistline), we're sure you agree.Elsew...here, we find out why the Queen has two birthdays, hear of a man who walks everywhere backwards, debate self-driving cars again, and talk business class on transatlantic flights. There's also plenty of your stories too so listen out for them, and to send in a story of your own, it's hello@lukeandpeteshow.com. Olé!***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oh yeah, it's the Luke and Pete Shaw episode.
176, my friends.
176, lovely friends. 176.
Lovely old job.
It's a Thursday.
So we're back doing our thing.
Yeah.
That's the custom.
That's the custom.
Monday and Thursday every time.
By the way, because you're going away later in the summer.
Yes.
We've got a couple of best ofs coming up, haven't we, at some point?
Yes, we have, yeah.
After that, we should do some summer themed stuff.
Because we still have enough of the summer left.
So maybe what I'll do is I'll come up with some summer-themed subjects
and we'll get people to email in their stories about those specific parts of summer
and we'll maybe do a show or two themed around that.
Summertime sadness, we'll call it.
Maybe we'll sit outside for one of them.
Who knows?
But I'm Luke Moore.
This is Pete Donaldson.
This is episode 176.
Hello.
I forgot to say last, I think I forgot to say on Monday
that if you want to get in touch with us,
it's hello at lukeandpeatshow.com
and we are at Luke and Pete Show on Twitter.
As of yet,
I've not seen any news
about what we talked about last week.
Cruz and Bieber.
Cruz and Bieber, yeah.
But there could have been something
that's come out in the wash.
No follow up.
No, forget that.
Pete, I want to bring something
to your attention.
Okay. Because you may have noticed Is it I want to bring something to your attention. Okay.
Because you may have noticed a week or so.
Is it my smell?
Yeah, your personal hygiene.
You may have noticed a week or two ago
that the Queen had her official birthday.
Yes.
Which is obviously traditionally signified
by Troop in the Colour,
the Buckingham Palace stuff,
the Fly Pass, all that thing.
But do you know why the Queen
has two birthdays?
Oh, I don't actually know.
I don't think many people
do know this.
I was very interested
to find out.
I'm going to tell you.
So,
Princess Elizabeth
Alexandra Mary
was born to the Duke
and Duchess of York,
later King George VI
and Queen Elizabeth
the Queen Mother,
of course,
on April 21st, 1926,
making April 21st her real birthday.
Right.
However, when she became queen in 1952,
following her father's death,
she also began celebrating her official birthday.
Celebrating an official birthday as monarch
is a practice that started over 250 years ago in 1748,
when King George...
You know back in the day when monarchs just did what they wanted?
Yeah.
Think about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When King George II decided no back in the day when monarchs would just do what they wanted yeah think about that
yeah yeah
when King George the second
decided that he wanted
a better chance
of good weather
on his birthday
than in November
when his birthday
actually was
the king solved this problem
by combining his birthday
celebration with an annual
military parade
that took place each summer
beginning the double
birthday tradition
since then
the second Saturday of June
has become the usual date
of the British monarch's
official birthday I don't see
why the Queen has to do that. Because we live
in modern times now, enlightened times.
Just because some mad old king back in the 18th
century decided that he wanted a sunny day for his birthday.
Like a spoiled brat.
Yeah, but like, would you not be like,
would you not want to, for your first
official second
birthday, would you not want to wait
until the actual kind of day?
And if it's a sunny day outside,
you go,
this is my birthday.
And all the courtiers
have to sort of
make a big fuss over you.
And they're just ready
right throughout the summer
for the sunniest day.
And then they go,
oh, it's your birthday.
I know what you mean.
I'm not a Republican myself.
I'm not one for abolishing
the royal family on balance,
I don't think.
But I wouldn't say
I'm a raving monarchist either.
But the playful side of me
thinks that
part of being
in the royal family,
particularly being the queen
or the king,
means you should better
get away with some mad shit.
Like, I mean...
Yeah, they probably do,
but the, you know,
PR is what it is.
Because your life
would be pretty difficult.
I know it's a life
of immense privilege,
but it also comes
with difficulties, right?
Yeah.
I mean, again, on balance. You can't do what you want immense privilege, but it also comes with difficulties, right? Yeah.
I mean, again, on balance.
You can't do what you want, though.
No.
You can't really do anything you want.
Yeah, I guess so, yeah.
I mean, some people kind of,
not abdicate,
but they sort of leave the royal family,
don't they,
just so they can get whatever they want.
But back in the day,
you feel like a king one day would wake up and just walk around the house and go,
right, I don't want to see any purple
for the rest of my life.
Sort that out.
Yeah.
And that's a very seductive power, isn't it?
It's kind of like you here.
What do you mean?
Right, I've decided I don't want that anymore,
so I'm going to do this.
And we just have to run up behind you,
sort of picking up your skirts.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
If you could have an official second birthday, Pete,
when would it be?
Hitler's, no.
It's on our birthdays and the rambling, like, I would it be? Hitler's, no. It's on my birthdays
and the rambling,
like, I think,
I can't remember which.
Your birthday's in April,
again, isn't it?
Ribbentrop.
I think it might be Ribbentrop.
Yeah, we talked about birthdays
last week.
Because your birthday's
in April too, right?
Yes.
It's not the 21st, is it?
No, it's the 30th.
Yeah.
So when would you have
your other one?
I don't know.
I quite like my birthday then.
Nowhere near the old Christmas and stuff,
but like an August one would be quite fun, wouldn't it?
Yeah, so I always thought that I was lucky with birthdays
because mine's in September.
So you've got Christmas, then you've got Easter,
then you've got summer, then my birthday,
then Christmas again.
They're kind of nicely sort of evened out.
So I'd probably forego the need for a second birthday.
Every day's a birthday when you're me.
Let's be honest.
I've been elevated above my station.
I'm having a great time.
What if you,
if you sort of,
if you're the king and you have to,
and you want to get rid of the colour purple,
I mean,
some people do have to deal with that
as being colour blind.
Not the movie.
Looking at the colour purple.
I want to see the colour purple.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't want to see the colour purple.
Go and watch it then.
I'd like to,
I'd like people to get in touch
with their stories about the craziest things that monarchs have done. Yeah. Hello at LukeandPeach.com. There's a Well, don't go and watch it then. I'd like people to get in touch with their stories
about the craziest things that monarchs have done.
Yeah.
Hello at LukeandPeach.com.
There's a few, isn't there?
There's a few.
Yeah, absolutely.
I like that.
Remember, oh, was it the,
I want to say the Thai king of the Philippines,
the king of the Philippines.
Remember he went mad.
He's like a bit of a party boy
and he was spotted in,
I think he's wearing like a sports bra.
He's covered in Yakuza style tattoos. Right. And he was spotted abroad I think he's wearing like a sports bra he's covered in Yakuza style tattoos
right
and he was spotted
abroad
wearing a sports bra
I'm going to type it
into Google
he's just lost it
hasn't he
he's let it get to him
and he can't deal with it
king
sports bra
yeah type it in
king
sports
what was it, Thailand?
He was just definitely spotted somewhere.
Yes, something, it is him.
It is the king of Thailand, a womanising king,
who's on his happy birthday.
They had like a kind of little birthday party for him as well.
And he was, what's his name now?
Maha Vajiralongkorn um succeeding his father king uh bummyball um he was spotted um on a i think a landing strip
walking up to his private jet uh with some very low slung jeans he's got some very low slung jeans
on he's wearing what can only be described as a sports bra and his missus is just in her bra
um and it's just wonderful he's just like a naughty be described as a sports bra and his missus is just in her bra and it's just wonderful
he's just like a
naughty king
I think you should be
eccentric
well there he is
with his wife
she's naked
she's naked
well she's got a g-string on
Luke have some respect
do people still call them
g-strings
I don't know
to be honest
a bit 80s isn't it
high waisted
pants are very much back
what's that about
90s fashion is back, yeah.
Very bear-watchy kind of like, where are the...
Every time I see...
There's no pubis coverage there.
Every time I see a group of teenage girls walking down the street,
I think, oh yeah, I must have got clueless again.
They all dress like the girls from Clueless.
Cargo pants are back.
They are.
I noticed.
And big, chunky, ugly trainers.
What about King Charles VI of France, Pete,
who ruled 1380 to 1422,
suffered from the delusion that he was made of glass
and could shatter at any time,
and on one tragic occasion in 1393,
he forced his attendants to attend a wedding
disguised as wild men and covered in pitch.
And during the celebrations,
all the costumes caught fire and four of them burned to death.
Wow, that's spectacularly
backfired
but to be honest
I don't know what
he's really gone for
in the first place
this has gone badly
it was always going to go badly
it doesn't make any sense
we told you this was
going to happen
not only are they dead
you've brought the mood
down there
why did everybody
is there a
did wild people
ever come themselves
and pitch
is that a thing
maybe
what's the plan there could be a racial connotation to this couldn't it it's the 14th century god knows Did wild people ever cut themselves in pitch? Is that a thing? Maybe.
What's the plan there?
Could be a racial connotation to this, couldn't it?
It's the 14th century.
God knows.
God knows.
So yeah, people who
ascend to the throne
can sometimes do crazy things.
And I would.
Yeah, there we go.
What else have you got there, Peter?
I've got something here for you
about...
Oh, this is good, actually.
As soon as I saw this
I sent it to you
on whatsapp
I shared it with
you
it's about the
great man
Boyd Tonic
oh the
Tonic's caramel
wafer man
slash tea
cake man
he invented
the Tonic's
tea cake
and the
age of 86
has been
offered a
knighthood
for services to business and charity and if you look at a picture of 86, has been offered a knighthood for services to business and charity.
And if you look at a picture of him,
if I said to you, Pete,
draw me a picture of the old fella who,
not your old fella,
the old fella who invented Tonek's Tea Cakes,
you would draw him exactly like Boy Tonek.
Jolly old Scottish bloke,
white moustache,
smiley face, in a mad lab coat yeah um
amazing gone crazy is it all the sugar's gone with brain i think it's well overdue and if you
go to uddingston where tunics the times factory is i'm reliably informed the whole town smells
of caramel oh lovely i would um i reserve the right to reserve my reaction to any older man who runs a factory.
Are you dad cheating again?
What?
Are you dad cheating again?
No, I'm saying that I reserve the right to reserve my opinion of the older gentleman in question
until I've found out his political sensibilities.
Oh, okay, right.
Because they will always let you down.
But Scottish?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
But he's a capitalist. I can't figure it out. He? Scottish is generally pretty good. Yeah, exactly. They're pretty spot on.
He's a capitalist.
I can't figure it out.
He could be Wetherspoons.
He could not be.
There's nothing wrong with being a capitalist, is there?
He could be Dyson.
Capitalist in and of itself is nothing like that.
No, no, no.
But I'm just saying that...
Boy Tunnic, why are you bringing it down?
He's a great guy.
I'm just saying, I don't know,
he might have said something problematic.
Just look at him.
There's no way he has.
He can judge a book by its cover
when it comes to the Tunnocks man.
He's called Boy Tun has. You can judge a brick by its cover when it comes to the tunnock's man. He's called Boy Tunnock.
If I was him and I was going to social functions and weddings and stuff
and people would, I would insist that my, on the little name card at a wedding,
my second name was on there, I'd have a couple of caramel wafers in my pocket.
Yeah.
And when someone said to you the inevitable question, which I hate because it's basic,
about, oh, what do you do for a living?
Just slip them my caramel wafer
that answer your
question
my life's work
with the tunics bit
on the caramel wafer
underlined in biro
it's one of the things
I think I sickened
myself with when I
was about 16 I had
eight loads and loads
of tunic caramel
wafers and now I
can't really look at
them
that's a shame for you
because I never
stopped thinking about
them
in the current
political climate though,
I would go further
and say that,
and I hope you're going
to agree with me on this,
I would make Boyd
ton at the Prime Minister now.
Why?
But you can't be any worse
than the candidates
and the people that's had,
the shit show that's begun
for the last couple of years.
It's a sorry field,
isn't it?
Like,
all of the people,
all of the big,
the so-called big hitters
of the Tory party,
it's like,
that is a, that is a shallow field, isn't it? A petri dish the people, all of the so-called big hitters of the Tory party, it's like, that is a shallow field,
isn't it?
A petri dish.
Do you know what it
reminds me of?
You look at the people
who are shortlisted for it,
it reminds me of a
really shit video game
where you have to pick
your character at the
start, but the game's
shit.
Yeah.
Single dragon.
I don't fancy any of
these.
I don't fancy any of
these.
They've all got really
big flaws, you know?
This guy's about as mobile as Zangief, but he's got the power of Dalsim. see any of these. I don't fancy any of these. They've all got really big flaws. You know?
This guy's about as mobile as Zangief
but he's got the power
of Dalsim.
I'm not interested.
He's got reach on Dalsim.
Yeah, that's true
to be fair.
They've all got assets.
None of these
have got assets,
have they?
And finally,
before we take a break
and go on to emails,
I wanted to ask you,
Mr. Donaldson,
if you have seen
any of the episodes
of the new series
of Black Mirror.
I've not, no.
Okay.
I watched one last night
and it was right up your street.
Right.
It's about a,
I won't spoiler it,
but it's about a video game
involving a bit of virtual reality.
Oh yeah.
And,
I've heard it's quite progressive.
I don't really know.
Yeah.
I suppose it's quite progressive.
Yeah.
It's about two guys
who hook up
and play
a fighting game
in virtual reality
like a street fighter
kind of game
called
something
vipers
striking vipers
striking vipers
it's fictional
actually
and
I think it was
called fighting vipers
back in the day
right okay
it's probably
a take on that
and stuff
starts to get
to say the least
very complicated.
It's interesting.
Very interesting.
I thought it was more progressive
than two blocks
having a kiss and a cuddle.
Well, you have to watch it.
You have to watch it.
I don't have to watch it.
I'm so behind on Black Mirror.
I just haven't watched any of it.
I haven't watched Bandersnatch
to choose your own adventure.
Because I refuse
to make,
to do the work.
Listen, Charlie Brooker,
you're a genius, right?
You're a genius.
I didn't think you had it in you when you did that first TV show.
You've done Black Mirror.
Fair enough.
You're a genius, right?
You've done all the wars that come your way,
but I am not partaking in choosing my own fucking plot.
You choose my adventure.
You do the plot.
That's part of the deal.
All right?
I'll never watch it as long as I live.
All right, let's go and do some emails, Peter.
All right, then.
I'm pretty chilled out about this,
actually.
I've had five
pints of Guinness
and my wife just
left me for another
man.
I can't mention
her name.
Jackie, I'm
sorry about that.
So, actually, you
know, the fact that
it's a four-hour
delay on a flight
doesn't bother me.
I wonder what
happened to Jackie.
There's a lot to
unpack there and I
feel like we should
unpack it again.
I wonder where he's
gone.
I mean, he's in
Luton.
He's probably gone
somewhere just on the continent. You can tell the calibre of a man by how well he knows unpacked there and I feel like we should unpack it again. I wonder where he's got, I mean, so he's in Luton. He's probably gone somewhere
just on the continent.
You can tell the calibre
of a man by how well
he knows his way
round the provincial,
more provincial airports.
It means he's always
looking for a cheap deal.
Prices are everything,
value are nothing.
But,
as if he thinks
that in a Vox Pop,
just by saying the word
Jackie,
everyone's going to go,
what,
not that Jackie.
Not that Jackie. Not that Jackie.
No, really.
Well, your husband's been slagging you off on telly.
And also, if I was someone
who'd just been jilted by my wife,
I wouldn't be going,
oh, this four-hour plane delay doesn't bother me.
I'll be going,
well, that's the latest in a long line of things
that have fucking pissed me off this week.
This makes it worse, not better.
Yeah, but he's just screaming, isn't he? He's howling at the have fucking pissed me off this week. Yeah. Which makes it worse, not better. Yeah, but I mean, he's just screaming,
isn't he?
He's howling at the moon.
Howling at the moon.
Yeah.
It's a sad one,
relationships go,
the way of the,
uh,
horse.
The way of the sword.
For some reason,
I was going to go,
the way of the sword.
That's not a saying either.
The way of the exploding fist.
The old Spectrum video game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh,
well,
everything has to end
everything has to end Luke
never mind
entropy
do an email
you can do any last time
entropy
is that battery brand
somebody came in with
a reovac yesterday
good one
very enjoyable
hello
this is from
Brendan
hearing about
plastic Terry's antics
in episode 21
right back in the day
wow I don't even remember this.
Inspired me to email in about another local oddity slash hero
from my university town of Derby,
aka Derbados.
Derbados, that's good.
Very enjoyable.
Especially because written down, Derbados becomes Derbados.
Yeah, that's good.
Walking over from university one day,
I noticed a man walking towards me.
Not unusual, I know.
However, he was not facing me. He was walking towards me. Not unusual, I know. However,
he was not facing me.
He was walking backwards.
Spending most of my life
in Sydney,
100% of the people
I've met walk forwards,
so I was particularly
confused about this man
and city.
On visiting my family,
I relayed the story
to my auntie,
to which she replied,
that's just the backwards
walking man.
That's interesting.
After she told me this,
I googled it,
and this is where you get
a couple of videos online
for your perusal.
While walking backwards, the man stops and waits for lights to change
and seems to be constantly writing numbers down on a notepad.
Other people I've asked in Derby had all heard of him before,
and there seems to be some sort of conspiracy theory
that he's writing car licence plate numbers down.
As for backwards Walking Man conspiracy theories, I have no ideas.
Hopefully you guys can spread the word,
and maybe some native
Derby listeners
can offer some insight
on the direction
defying legend.
Oh dear.
That's weird because
he does end
the beautiful email
about a backwards walking man
life affirming
about a street hero
as one might call.
Great show by the way.
Very easy to masturbate to.
Ah that's disappointing.
Brendan.
By the way
read that bit again about taking down license plate numbers. Why do you have to walk backwards very easy to masturbate to. Ah, that's disappointing. Brendan. By the way,
read that bit again about taking down
license plate numbers.
Why do you have to
walk backwards
to take down
license plate numbers?
Because cars have
license plate numbers
on the front and the back.
Well, he's currently writing,
I don't know,
he's constantly writing...
Something.
Yeah.
Yeah, because there was
a couple of guys,
there was Lean Sideways Man
and Lean Back Man
in the town I grew up in.
But I think that's probably
because they maybe had some
spying coverage or something
and it wouldn't be fair
to cast aspersions
but they were people
local folk heroes
I suppose
who did exist
but walking backwards
man that seems like
a choice
a choice
it's like a choice
yeah
there we go
alright interesting
if you've got any more
like that get in touch
literally good luck to him
he's going to fall over
a bollard
yeah
yeah he is I mean I can't believe he hasn't literally good luck to him. He's going to fall over a bollard. Yeah. He's not careful.
I mean, I can't believe he hasn't hurt himself enough times
to think, I'm going to stop doing this now.
I just think, hey, it's walking forwards, man.
He's changed.
But like, I just don't think that...
That could be anyone.
He must be experiencing life in such a different way.
Because obviously, if you're walking forwards,
you see something and it disappears.
And you see something and it disappears.
If you are constantly walking backwards, you see something... You don't and you see something and then it disappears. If you are constantly
walking backwards,
you see something
and you see it for ages.
It depends which direction
it's going.
What?
Not if it's going
in the same direction
as you, Pete.
No, you experience,
that's only for moving objects
but for static objects,
you would see it for longer
so you would enjoy
the image longer
if you're walking forwards.
But you've got absolutely
no way of preparing yourself about anything that could come in front of you. Well, yeah But you've got absolutely no way of preparing yourself
about anything
that could come in front of you.
Well, yeah.
That's a very shallow way of thinking.
I think billions of years
of evolution can't be wrong.
You notice that
all predators
in the animal kingdom
have forward-facing eyes
and all, generally,
prey have sideways-facing eyes.
Ah, that's clever.
So a gazelle or whatever
would have a,
or a fucking sheep or whatever
would have eyes
that can look around
and predators have
forward facing eyes
and human beings
are very much
apex predators,
aren't they?
So don't be messing up
the system.
Imagine if that's all it took
to undo four billion years
of evolution.
A man just to walk backwards
and everyone go,
fuck me.
Why aren't I doing that?
That's brilliant.
And you go on stage
and you see just a load
of the backs of people's heads.
Well, we've got self-driving cars now,
so we don't need to worry about it.
Do you know what, though?
There's a really good self-driving car ride at Epcot,
as we talked about on Monday at Epcot.
It's called Test Track.
It's really 90s,
but it's sponsored by the good people at Chevrolet.
And you go there and you design your own car.
Right.
And then it gives you an idea of how
that car would perform
by putting you in
another car
and going around a track
giving you examples of it
and that's completely
self-driving
and also
the pods at Heathrow Airport
are self-driving cars as well
yeah
they're on a very
finite track though
aren't they
they're not
what do you mean
they're not on a track
they're much more too
yeah
as in a buffer
like it's like a bowling alley
isn't it
it's like a there's isn't it it's like a
there's buffers on
each side
so you can't really
go anywhere
like when you go
to a bowling
and you put the
buffers in
I do
and I use the
little ramp
to roll it
true
but I don't think
so I think
I've got a personal
opinion based on
absolutely no
expertise whatsoever
that self-driving
cars probably
won't happen
anytime soon
I mean they're
already on the
roads aren't they
but people don't
trust them
that's the problem I'd trust? But people don't trust them.
That's the problem.
I'd trust them more than a normal car.
So if I said to you,
when you leave the studio in a minute,
you've got to get a car to Manchester or whatever,
a three-hour drive or whatever,
and you can go in this car with this guy here,
and you can meet him, talk to him,
find out what he's like,
or you go in this self-driving car,
as the roads are as they are now,
because bear in mind the infrastructure projects and road changes might take years,
which is also going to delay it.
What one are you choosing?
Well, I'm going to have to have the choice,
probably him now,
but I mean, to be honest,
I think in the UK,
self-driving cars are more problematic.
There's less room, I think.
I think there's something to do with that.
But in the future...
Anything in the future.
In the future, I'd quite like to fly.
It's irrelevant. No, but in the close future, the future in the future I'd quite like to fly it's irrelevant no but in the close
future
in five years time
five years time
you could
I would happily get into
a self-driving car
it will be fun
fun fun
and what about
a self-driving
self-flying plane
that's the big one
well I mean
it does a lot of things
automatically doesn't it
and it takes human error
out of it
but people still don't like it
what about I reckon the younger generation might be more open to it anyway not after these Well, I mean, it does a lot of things automatically, doesn't it? And it takes human error out of it, but people still don't like it.
What about, I reckon the younger generation might be more open to it.
Anyway.
Not after these Boeing 707 Maxes, whatever they're called.
That was a crush.
Do you know what was really surprising about that?
And I'm going to assume that people listening know what we're talking about here.
I think we've talked about it before.
Right.
The fact that they said, Boeing released a statement saying and signed off saying oh spaghetti oh
no saying that these
airlines didn't choose
to take up the extra
safety features as an
added extra right now
if you are flying a
plane it needs to be
safe you do not want
to hear that no you
don't they're in a
whole heap of trouble
and they're trying to
climb out I might buy
myself some shares I
think it's a bit of a
thought but um uh
they would obviously
the um I was watching a YouTube video,
which is not YouTube nowadays,
of a pilot sort of saying,
well, these are the ways
you can get out of this particular problem
with the 747 MAX.
And after you've gone through
all of these steps,
if the plane is still doing a naughty,
you have got to brace your hands in a certain way and pull as hard as you can
with your feet on the desk in front of you, on the instrument panel, and pull as hard
as you can, making sure that you don't break your own arms for pulling that hard.
And that should right it eventually.
It's like, shouldn't have to do that.
Shouldn't have to do that. Nah. Shouldn't have to do that. There was a,
there was a,
a plane incident,
well,
a plane crash,
and a flight that I believe
was either flying back from
or to Rio.
Right.
And I think it might have been
that Air France one.
Right.
And the investigation there,
I'm fairly certain,
said that
the guy on the,
so there was two pilots
and one of them was asleep having his break. And the right hand pilot, or the left, one of the guy on the, so there was two pilots and one of them was asleep
having his break
and the right hand pilot
or the left,
one of the two pilots anyway,
was pulling back on the stick
which was to the right of him
so the left hand guy
couldn't see it
and the right hand guy
was very inexperienced
and they couldn't work out
why he kept losing attitude.
All they needed to do
was tip the nose forward,
pick up some speed
and bring it up again.
Right, yeah.
And he just didn't do it.
Basically,
it basically piled into the sea.
Oh, wow.
So they crashed?
Yeah.
Everyone died.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
It was an incredible
set of circumstances.
I'm sure there's more information
to it than that.
If you know about it,
hello at lukeandpeachow.com,
of course.
You'd think that there'd be
an in-compact camera.
We are at the mercy
of these people.
We are at the mercy
of them, Pete.
I listen to a lot
of air traffic control uh
not transcripts um kind of audio uh of when things go a little awry right and like arguments between
pilots and uh and air traffic control staff like what fascinating just doing that just kind of like
uh well you should have told me that five minutes ago um i've been or he'll have a go around you
got to go around the um the the, what do you call it,
the runway.
I shouldn't know that.
The runway's full of
another plane or whatever.
And the guy's going,
I don't want to do another round.
I've got,
I haven't got enough fuel.
He suddenly goes,
I don't want to do another round.
Oh, and also I've got,
I've not got enough fuel.
And these guys are like,
oh for fuck's sake,
yeah, alright,
get on the emergency bloody,
emergency thing. There's no way anyone else can check what their fuel is. Just check. I don't know. I can got enough fuel. And these guys are like, oh, for fuck's sake. Yeah, all right, get on the emergency bloody thing. Oh, really?
There's no way anyone else can check what their fuel is.
Just check.
I can see your fuel there.
It's fine.
Coming out of Orlando last week,
you know,
every afternoon in the summer,
pretty much,
Orlando has massive thunderstorms.
Like crazy thunderstorms.
Yeah.
And we were sat on the tarmac
for quite a while,
an hour and a half maybe,
while this thunderstorm passed
over and it's annoying
not having any sort
of channel for your
anger isn't it because
you can't blame anyone
no I was stuck
I don't believe in
I was stuck in
Houston ones because
the walkway had
certain rules as to
how far away a
lightning storm can
be because the
walkway is not
grounded and it's
just a metal tube
effectively it's not
great if you get
stuck in that and
the lightning comes.
Certain companies, I think American Airlines
is five miles or something as well.
Some airline companies
have a rule of ten miles away.
The lightning storm has to be ten miles away
but I think Americans
you can have it ten miles away which is a bit annoying.
I believe they set their own agenda by state because
Orlando, the problem with Orlando is that
the union who look after
the workers
who do luggage
and work out
on the tarmac
refuse to work
in a thunderstorm
so they just go
straight in
so I think the plane
itself is generally fine
oh yeah the plane's fine
but it's more the walkway
obviously
if a plane
a big metal tube
gets struck
on the ground
it's still going to be painful and problematic.
But if you search online about these problems at Orlando specifically,
there are loads of people complaining that when they got home,
all their luggage was completely drenched.
Because literally as soon as the rain starts coming in,
they just leave it.
And so if you've not got waterproof luggage,
it just gets completely drenched.
Another reason to wrap it in plastic, I guess.
Yeah, but I thought that was really fascinating,
purely because surely that's going to affect the weight of the plane.
What do you mean?
If everything's soaking wet, it's going to be far heavier.
That's a bit marginal, surely.
Surely.
You reckon?
Yeah.
Interesting.
All right, let's squeeze another email in.
This one from Jason, changing trains completely.
I was going to actually rinse you before on your Instagram.
Go on.
You were coming back from your holiday and slash wedding,
and you took a picture of you on the plane.
Yeah.
A coquettishly
little club world menu
on the side.
Pathetic.
That's coquettish?
Pathetic.
What was the actual picture?
What was the picture?
I don't know.
You're taking a picture
of you watching The Office.
Classic.
Yeah, but there was
a club world little,
I'm in business.
You can't just drop that in there.
That's you in a lounge
with a glass of red wine
going, don't mind if I do. With this one. I'm off on my holiday with this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. business that's you in a lounge with a glass of red wine going
don't mind if I do
with this one
I'm off on my
holiday with this one
don't mind if I do
first time I've ever
flown business
you want to talk
about it
if you want
I'm happy to talk
about it
I thought it was
good yeah
decent yeah
did you fly with
BA
hub balls BA
somebody was
complaining
my mum sent me
a picture of
somebody just
puked
you know the footrests make some part of the bed?
Yes.
Someone had just clearly done a big vomit and put the chair back up.
Oh God.
And the next person went, there's vomit all over my chair.
And the flight attendant came over and went, did you just vomit on that?
She's like, it's dry.
He's going.
I thought she was going to say, you don't like it pay more for first
no we got a very
good deal
they were doing
that thing where
I think because
a load of people
travel to Orlando
on holiday with
families
generally speaking
people can't afford
to go to business
I generally can't
it's the first time
I've ever flown
business
they're trying to
sell the seats
so they sell them
cheap
it was genuinely
very competitive
and you had to go
to the lounge
which meant I could
watch the England
game in the lounge but it was fun it was good I still and you had to go to the lounge which meant I could watch the England game
in the lounge as well
but it was fun
it was good
I still couldn't really
sleep that well
because I'm still far too big
for the bed
so it was a bit of a shame
my wife slept like
an absolute baby
so it was good
I watched a video
of a man
he's done this a few things before
I think he's like
an aviation geek
but he flies around the world
he did like
he did
did he do an
I think he did 72 hours world. He did like, he did, did he do an American, I think he did 72 hours
in economy.
He did like around the world.
How did he even do that?
He did a round the world trip
in economy
and he looked miserable.
I don't know why he'd do that.
But he just loves planes.
He loves flying.
Right.
His latest one was
starting in Greenwich,
you know,
the green GMT line.
Starting there on a Friday morning
about 10 o'clock,
going around the world.
A couple of business flights in there,
but going around the world from India
and going through Singapore, India, Kuwait,
I think he stops in.
Going around the world in 80 hours
or something like that.
So he's back there Monday night
I think
or Monday afternoon
and he managed it
which is pretty good
but it was just he
Did he book it in advance
or did he just do it
when he went out there?
Yeah no no
he booked it in advance
so he sort of planned his thing
it was quite a good video
but again
he just looked really ill
at the end of it
because it's just miserable
being on a flight
for that
like a connection of flights
and he sort of went into India
for a little bit
and had a fly around
with his friend
in Los Angeles
and stuff for a bit
and then managed to make it back
with six minutes to spare.
That was quite...
I like when people
set themselves little challenges.
Yeah, it's nice.
I didn't realise,
I thought he was like
just a single man
but he's got a wife and two kids.
I was like,
mate,
how are you getting away with that?
But I mean,
I guess he's making money
out of his YouTube day.
I didn't realise
that Pakistan had closed
their airspace.
Oh, right.
To punish India,
presumably.
I don't know.
I'm going to scrap those two.
But in response
to suicide bombing,
they shut Pakistani airspace
until June,
I think.
So people have to sort of
literally do
like an hour-long detour
around Pakistani airspace.
Oh, right.
I had no idea that either.
On the business class thing from,
from,
from my side,
I am,
like I said,
it was a good deal.
It was the first time I've ever done it.
And I had to go straight to work on Friday.
And I just thought.
Invaluable.
Yeah.
If you,
if you take,
take the value of it based on the price they're offering it.
Um,
I'm,
I've had a really busy time,
as you know,
we've done a lot of traveling,
a lot of work over the last four weeks or so.
I thought it would be great for me to actually get some sleep
because it's an
eight and a half hour one
actually no it's
eight hours fifty
overnight
so the theory being
if you can get a bit
of sleep in
you can get straight
at it on the Friday
so that was kind of
the thinking
I don't regret doing it
I thought it was
decent
you don't have to
explain it
it was just the
cheeky little menu
that made me laugh
but I want people
to understand that
it's a hard fought,
hard won thing to be able to do it
because it takes a lot of work
to earn the money.
I do not mind admitting
that I've spent a bit more money
than usual
to go to Tokyo next week.
You're going first.
Private jet.
Yeah, can you imagine?
And I'm going business,
but I'd shit,
but you'd usually go direct
would be here to Tokyo.
It's like 800 quid.
It's expensive.
How long is the flight?
14,
13 hours.
And it's a killer
for time difference as well,
right?
It is a little bit,
yeah.
But if you change in Frankfurt,
you can get a pretty reasonable
business class flight
with Lufthansa
slash ANA.
Okay.
All Nippon Airways.
Well, you should report back.
I'm sure people won't
begrudge us
having experiences
and tell them about it
for free.
So do it.
Put your hand in your pocket and get in first and video it.
So we can see what it's like.
Is it a taxable expense?
I'll never be able to fly first as long as I live.
I don't think so.
I cannot,
I think the jump from businesses first isn't worth it,
but they jump from economy or premium.
So I normally fly premium,
which is like an extra few hundred quid.
Yeah.
And I don't fly to only when I go to the U S I would happily fly economy
anywhere in Europe.
When I go to the U S cause it's fly economy anywhere in Europe. When I go to the US,
because it's a longer flight
and we're going to go see family
and usually invariably I'm working straight away.
When I come back again,
it's just better.
Also, I'm fucking six foot three.
I can't sit in economy now
because they've made the leg thing so small
that it's just ridiculous.
But anyway,
hello at Luke and Peach,
they're getting in touch.
Sorry to Jason for not getting to your email, mate.
We've got to go.
We're out of time. I promise you we'll get to it next's so they get in touch. Sorry to Jason for not getting to your email, mate. We've got to go. We're out of time.
I promise you
we'll get to it next week.
Thanks for your patience.
Thanks to everyone for listening
and we'll be back on Monday.
Pete, say your emotional
and full and frank goodbyes now.
See you later, Tedds. this was a radius to kind of production