The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 176: A Tunnock's celebration

Episode Date: June 13, 2019

Hello everyone! We're back, and celebrating Boyd Tunnock's knighthood. Richly deserved for a great man who's made a fantastic contribution to society (and Luke's waistline), we're sure you agree.Elsew...here, we find out why the Queen has two birthdays, hear of a man who walks everywhere backwards, debate self-driving cars again, and talk business class on transatlantic flights. There's also plenty of your stories too so listen out for them, and to send in a story of your own, it's hello@lukeandpeteshow.com. Olé!***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. Oh yeah, it's the Luke and Pete Shaw episode. 176, my friends. 176, lovely friends. 176. Lovely old job. It's a Thursday. So we're back doing our thing.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Yeah. That's the custom. That's the custom. Monday and Thursday every time. By the way, because you're going away later in the summer. Yes. We've got a couple of best ofs coming up, haven't we, at some point? Yes, we have, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:59 After that, we should do some summer themed stuff. Because we still have enough of the summer left. So maybe what I'll do is I'll come up with some summer-themed subjects and we'll get people to email in their stories about those specific parts of summer and we'll maybe do a show or two themed around that. Summertime sadness, we'll call it. Maybe we'll sit outside for one of them. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:01:19 But I'm Luke Moore. This is Pete Donaldson. This is episode 176. Hello. I forgot to say last, I think I forgot to say on Monday that if you want to get in touch with us, it's hello at lukeandpeatshow.com and we are at Luke and Pete Show on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:01:30 As of yet, I've not seen any news about what we talked about last week. Cruz and Bieber. Cruz and Bieber, yeah. But there could have been something that's come out in the wash. No follow up.
Starting point is 00:01:41 No, forget that. Pete, I want to bring something to your attention. Okay. Because you may have noticed Is it I want to bring something to your attention. Okay. Because you may have noticed a week or so. Is it my smell? Yeah, your personal hygiene. You may have noticed a week or two ago
Starting point is 00:01:52 that the Queen had her official birthday. Yes. Which is obviously traditionally signified by Troop in the Colour, the Buckingham Palace stuff, the Fly Pass, all that thing. But do you know why the Queen has two birthdays?
Starting point is 00:02:06 Oh, I don't actually know. I don't think many people do know this. I was very interested to find out. I'm going to tell you. So, Princess Elizabeth
Starting point is 00:02:15 Alexandra Mary was born to the Duke and Duchess of York, later King George VI and Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, of course, on April 21st, 1926,
Starting point is 00:02:23 making April 21st her real birthday. Right. However, when she became queen in 1952, following her father's death, she also began celebrating her official birthday. Celebrating an official birthday as monarch is a practice that started over 250 years ago in 1748, when King George...
Starting point is 00:02:41 You know back in the day when monarchs just did what they wanted? Yeah. Think about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When King George II decided no back in the day when monarchs would just do what they wanted yeah think about that yeah yeah when King George the second decided that he wanted a better chance of good weather
Starting point is 00:02:50 on his birthday than in November when his birthday actually was the king solved this problem by combining his birthday celebration with an annual military parade
Starting point is 00:02:57 that took place each summer beginning the double birthday tradition since then the second Saturday of June has become the usual date of the British monarch's official birthday I don't see
Starting point is 00:03:05 why the Queen has to do that. Because we live in modern times now, enlightened times. Just because some mad old king back in the 18th century decided that he wanted a sunny day for his birthday. Like a spoiled brat. Yeah, but like, would you not be like, would you not want to, for your first official second
Starting point is 00:03:21 birthday, would you not want to wait until the actual kind of day? And if it's a sunny day outside, you go, this is my birthday. And all the courtiers have to sort of make a big fuss over you.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And they're just ready right throughout the summer for the sunniest day. And then they go, oh, it's your birthday. I know what you mean. I'm not a Republican myself. I'm not one for abolishing
Starting point is 00:03:39 the royal family on balance, I don't think. But I wouldn't say I'm a raving monarchist either. But the playful side of me thinks that part of being in the royal family,
Starting point is 00:03:51 particularly being the queen or the king, means you should better get away with some mad shit. Like, I mean... Yeah, they probably do, but the, you know, PR is what it is.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Because your life would be pretty difficult. I know it's a life of immense privilege, but it also comes with difficulties, right? Yeah. I mean, again, on balance. You can't do what you want immense privilege, but it also comes with difficulties, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I mean, again, on balance. You can't do what you want, though. No. You can't really do anything you want. Yeah, I guess so, yeah. I mean, some people kind of, not abdicate, but they sort of leave the royal family,
Starting point is 00:04:15 don't they, just so they can get whatever they want. But back in the day, you feel like a king one day would wake up and just walk around the house and go, right, I don't want to see any purple for the rest of my life. Sort that out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And that's a very seductive power, isn't it? It's kind of like you here. What do you mean? Right, I've decided I don't want that anymore, so I'm going to do this. And we just have to run up behind you, sort of picking up your skirts. Yeah, that sounds about right.
Starting point is 00:04:39 If you could have an official second birthday, Pete, when would it be? Hitler's, no. It's on our birthdays and the rambling, like, I would it be? Hitler's, no. It's on my birthdays and the rambling, like, I think, I can't remember which. Your birthday's in April,
Starting point is 00:04:49 again, isn't it? Ribbentrop. I think it might be Ribbentrop. Yeah, we talked about birthdays last week. Because your birthday's in April too, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:57 It's not the 21st, is it? No, it's the 30th. Yeah. So when would you have your other one? I don't know. I quite like my birthday then. Nowhere near the old Christmas and stuff,
Starting point is 00:05:05 but like an August one would be quite fun, wouldn't it? Yeah, so I always thought that I was lucky with birthdays because mine's in September. So you've got Christmas, then you've got Easter, then you've got summer, then my birthday, then Christmas again. They're kind of nicely sort of evened out. So I'd probably forego the need for a second birthday.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Every day's a birthday when you're me. Let's be honest. I've been elevated above my station. I'm having a great time. What if you, if you sort of, if you're the king and you have to, and you want to get rid of the colour purple,
Starting point is 00:05:32 I mean, some people do have to deal with that as being colour blind. Not the movie. Looking at the colour purple. I want to see the colour purple. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to see the colour purple.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Go and watch it then. I'd like to, I'd like people to get in touch with their stories about the craziest things that monarchs have done. Yeah. Hello at LukeandPeach.com. There's a Well, don't go and watch it then. I'd like people to get in touch with their stories about the craziest things that monarchs have done. Yeah. Hello at LukeandPeach.com. There's a few, isn't there?
Starting point is 00:05:49 There's a few. Yeah, absolutely. I like that. Remember, oh, was it the, I want to say the Thai king of the Philippines, the king of the Philippines. Remember he went mad. He's like a bit of a party boy
Starting point is 00:06:00 and he was spotted in, I think he's wearing like a sports bra. He's covered in Yakuza style tattoos. Right. And he was spotted abroad I think he's wearing like a sports bra he's covered in Yakuza style tattoos right and he was spotted abroad wearing a sports bra I'm going to type it
Starting point is 00:06:13 into Google he's just lost it hasn't he he's let it get to him and he can't deal with it king sports bra yeah type it in
Starting point is 00:06:22 king sports what was it, Thailand? He was just definitely spotted somewhere. Yes, something, it is him. It is the king of Thailand, a womanising king, who's on his happy birthday. They had like a kind of little birthday party for him as well.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And he was, what's his name now? Maha Vajiralongkorn um succeeding his father king uh bummyball um he was spotted um on a i think a landing strip walking up to his private jet uh with some very low slung jeans he's got some very low slung jeans on he's wearing what can only be described as a sports bra and his missus is just in her bra um and it's just wonderful he's just like a naughty be described as a sports bra and his missus is just in her bra and it's just wonderful he's just like a naughty king I think you should be
Starting point is 00:07:08 eccentric well there he is with his wife she's naked she's naked well she's got a g-string on Luke have some respect do people still call them
Starting point is 00:07:17 g-strings I don't know to be honest a bit 80s isn't it high waisted pants are very much back what's that about 90s fashion is back, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Very bear-watchy kind of like, where are the... Every time I see... There's no pubis coverage there. Every time I see a group of teenage girls walking down the street, I think, oh yeah, I must have got clueless again. They all dress like the girls from Clueless. Cargo pants are back. They are.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I noticed. And big, chunky, ugly trainers. What about King Charles VI of France, Pete, who ruled 1380 to 1422, suffered from the delusion that he was made of glass and could shatter at any time, and on one tragic occasion in 1393, he forced his attendants to attend a wedding
Starting point is 00:07:57 disguised as wild men and covered in pitch. And during the celebrations, all the costumes caught fire and four of them burned to death. Wow, that's spectacularly backfired but to be honest I don't know what he's really gone for
Starting point is 00:08:07 in the first place this has gone badly it was always going to go badly it doesn't make any sense we told you this was going to happen not only are they dead you've brought the mood
Starting point is 00:08:17 down there why did everybody is there a did wild people ever come themselves and pitch is that a thing maybe
Starting point is 00:08:24 what's the plan there could be a racial connotation to this couldn't it it's the 14th century god knows Did wild people ever cut themselves in pitch? Is that a thing? Maybe. What's the plan there? Could be a racial connotation to this, couldn't it? It's the 14th century. God knows. God knows. So yeah, people who ascend to the throne
Starting point is 00:08:32 can sometimes do crazy things. And I would. Yeah, there we go. What else have you got there, Peter? I've got something here for you about... Oh, this is good, actually. As soon as I saw this
Starting point is 00:08:45 I sent it to you on whatsapp I shared it with you it's about the great man Boyd Tonic oh the
Starting point is 00:08:51 Tonic's caramel wafer man slash tea cake man he invented the Tonic's tea cake and the
Starting point is 00:09:00 age of 86 has been offered a knighthood for services to business and charity and if you look at a picture of 86, has been offered a knighthood for services to business and charity. And if you look at a picture of him, if I said to you, Pete, draw me a picture of the old fella who,
Starting point is 00:09:13 not your old fella, the old fella who invented Tonek's Tea Cakes, you would draw him exactly like Boy Tonek. Jolly old Scottish bloke, white moustache, smiley face, in a mad lab coat yeah um amazing gone crazy is it all the sugar's gone with brain i think it's well overdue and if you go to uddingston where tunics the times factory is i'm reliably informed the whole town smells
Starting point is 00:09:36 of caramel oh lovely i would um i reserve the right to reserve my reaction to any older man who runs a factory. Are you dad cheating again? What? Are you dad cheating again? No, I'm saying that I reserve the right to reserve my opinion of the older gentleman in question until I've found out his political sensibilities. Oh, okay, right. Because they will always let you down.
Starting point is 00:10:01 But Scottish? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. But he's a capitalist. I can't figure it out. He? Scottish is generally pretty good. Yeah, exactly. They're pretty spot on. He's a capitalist. I can't figure it out. He could be Wetherspoons. He could not be.
Starting point is 00:10:10 There's nothing wrong with being a capitalist, is there? He could be Dyson. Capitalist in and of itself is nothing like that. No, no, no. But I'm just saying that... Boy Tunnic, why are you bringing it down? He's a great guy. I'm just saying, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:10:17 he might have said something problematic. Just look at him. There's no way he has. He can judge a book by its cover when it comes to the Tunnocks man. He's called Boy Tun has. You can judge a brick by its cover when it comes to the tunnock's man. He's called Boy Tunnock. If I was him and I was going to social functions and weddings and stuff and people would, I would insist that my, on the little name card at a wedding,
Starting point is 00:10:35 my second name was on there, I'd have a couple of caramel wafers in my pocket. Yeah. And when someone said to you the inevitable question, which I hate because it's basic, about, oh, what do you do for a living? Just slip them my caramel wafer that answer your question my life's work
Starting point is 00:10:47 with the tunics bit on the caramel wafer underlined in biro it's one of the things I think I sickened myself with when I was about 16 I had eight loads and loads
Starting point is 00:10:55 of tunic caramel wafers and now I can't really look at them that's a shame for you because I never stopped thinking about them
Starting point is 00:11:02 in the current political climate though, I would go further and say that, and I hope you're going to agree with me on this, I would make Boyd ton at the Prime Minister now.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Why? But you can't be any worse than the candidates and the people that's had, the shit show that's begun for the last couple of years. It's a sorry field, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Like, all of the people, all of the big, the so-called big hitters of the Tory party, it's like, that is a, that is a shallow field, isn't it? A petri dish the people, all of the so-called big hitters of the Tory party, it's like, that is a shallow field, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:11:27 A petri dish. Do you know what it reminds me of? You look at the people who are shortlisted for it, it reminds me of a really shit video game where you have to pick
Starting point is 00:11:35 your character at the start, but the game's shit. Yeah. Single dragon. I don't fancy any of these. I don't fancy any of
Starting point is 00:11:41 these. They've all got really big flaws, you know? This guy's about as mobile as Zangief, but he's got the power of Dalsim. see any of these. I don't fancy any of these. They've all got really big flaws. You know? This guy's about as mobile as Zangief but he's got the power of Dalsim. I'm not interested.
Starting point is 00:11:50 He's got reach on Dalsim. Yeah, that's true to be fair. They've all got assets. None of these have got assets, have they? And finally,
Starting point is 00:11:56 before we take a break and go on to emails, I wanted to ask you, Mr. Donaldson, if you have seen any of the episodes of the new series of Black Mirror.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I've not, no. Okay. I watched one last night and it was right up your street. Right. It's about a, I won't spoiler it, but it's about a video game
Starting point is 00:12:15 involving a bit of virtual reality. Oh yeah. And, I've heard it's quite progressive. I don't really know. Yeah. I suppose it's quite progressive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It's about two guys who hook up and play a fighting game in virtual reality like a street fighter kind of game called
Starting point is 00:12:32 something vipers striking vipers striking vipers it's fictional actually and I think it was
Starting point is 00:12:39 called fighting vipers back in the day right okay it's probably a take on that and stuff starts to get to say the least
Starting point is 00:12:44 very complicated. It's interesting. Very interesting. I thought it was more progressive than two blocks having a kiss and a cuddle. Well, you have to watch it. You have to watch it.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I don't have to watch it. I'm so behind on Black Mirror. I just haven't watched any of it. I haven't watched Bandersnatch to choose your own adventure. Because I refuse to make, to do the work.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Listen, Charlie Brooker, you're a genius, right? You're a genius. I didn't think you had it in you when you did that first TV show. You've done Black Mirror. Fair enough. You're a genius, right? You've done all the wars that come your way,
Starting point is 00:13:12 but I am not partaking in choosing my own fucking plot. You choose my adventure. You do the plot. That's part of the deal. All right? I'll never watch it as long as I live. All right, let's go and do some emails, Peter. All right, then.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I'm pretty chilled out about this, actually. I've had five pints of Guinness and my wife just left me for another man. I can't mention
Starting point is 00:13:30 her name. Jackie, I'm sorry about that. So, actually, you know, the fact that it's a four-hour delay on a flight doesn't bother me.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I wonder what happened to Jackie. There's a lot to unpack there and I feel like we should unpack it again. I wonder where he's gone.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I mean, he's in Luton. He's probably gone somewhere just on the continent. You can tell the calibre of a man by how well he knows unpacked there and I feel like we should unpack it again. I wonder where he's got, I mean, so he's in Luton. He's probably gone somewhere just on the continent. You can tell the calibre of a man by how well he knows his way
Starting point is 00:13:49 round the provincial, more provincial airports. It means he's always looking for a cheap deal. Prices are everything, value are nothing. But, as if he thinks
Starting point is 00:13:59 that in a Vox Pop, just by saying the word Jackie, everyone's going to go, what, not that Jackie. Not that Jackie. Not that Jackie. No, really.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Well, your husband's been slagging you off on telly. And also, if I was someone who'd just been jilted by my wife, I wouldn't be going, oh, this four-hour plane delay doesn't bother me. I'll be going, well, that's the latest in a long line of things that have fucking pissed me off this week.
Starting point is 00:14:22 This makes it worse, not better. Yeah, but he's just screaming, isn't he? He's howling at the have fucking pissed me off this week. Yeah. Which makes it worse, not better. Yeah, but I mean, he's just screaming, isn't he? He's howling at the moon. Howling at the moon. Yeah. It's a sad one, relationships go,
Starting point is 00:14:30 the way of the, uh, horse. The way of the sword. For some reason, I was going to go, the way of the sword. That's not a saying either.
Starting point is 00:14:37 The way of the exploding fist. The old Spectrum video game. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, everything has to end everything has to end Luke
Starting point is 00:14:47 never mind entropy do an email you can do any last time entropy is that battery brand somebody came in with a reovac yesterday
Starting point is 00:14:54 good one very enjoyable hello this is from Brendan hearing about plastic Terry's antics in episode 21
Starting point is 00:15:03 right back in the day wow I don't even remember this. Inspired me to email in about another local oddity slash hero from my university town of Derby, aka Derbados. Derbados, that's good. Very enjoyable. Especially because written down, Derbados becomes Derbados.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah, that's good. Walking over from university one day, I noticed a man walking towards me. Not unusual, I know. However, he was not facing me. He was walking towards me. Not unusual, I know. However, he was not facing me. He was walking backwards. Spending most of my life
Starting point is 00:15:29 in Sydney, 100% of the people I've met walk forwards, so I was particularly confused about this man and city. On visiting my family, I relayed the story
Starting point is 00:15:37 to my auntie, to which she replied, that's just the backwards walking man. That's interesting. After she told me this, I googled it, and this is where you get
Starting point is 00:15:43 a couple of videos online for your perusal. While walking backwards, the man stops and waits for lights to change and seems to be constantly writing numbers down on a notepad. Other people I've asked in Derby had all heard of him before, and there seems to be some sort of conspiracy theory that he's writing car licence plate numbers down. As for backwards Walking Man conspiracy theories, I have no ideas.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Hopefully you guys can spread the word, and maybe some native Derby listeners can offer some insight on the direction defying legend. Oh dear. That's weird because
Starting point is 00:16:12 he does end the beautiful email about a backwards walking man life affirming about a street hero as one might call. Great show by the way. Very easy to masturbate to.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Ah that's disappointing. Brendan. By the way read that bit again about taking down license plate numbers. Why do you have to walk backwards very easy to masturbate to. Ah, that's disappointing. Brendan. By the way, read that bit again about taking down license plate numbers. Why do you have to walk backwards
Starting point is 00:16:29 to take down license plate numbers? Because cars have license plate numbers on the front and the back. Well, he's currently writing, I don't know, he's constantly writing...
Starting point is 00:16:37 Something. Yeah. Yeah, because there was a couple of guys, there was Lean Sideways Man and Lean Back Man in the town I grew up in. But I think that's probably
Starting point is 00:16:44 because they maybe had some spying coverage or something and it wouldn't be fair to cast aspersions but they were people local folk heroes I suppose who did exist
Starting point is 00:16:54 but walking backwards man that seems like a choice a choice it's like a choice yeah there we go alright interesting
Starting point is 00:17:00 if you've got any more like that get in touch literally good luck to him he's going to fall over a bollard yeah yeah he is I mean I can't believe he hasn't literally good luck to him. He's going to fall over a bollard. Yeah. He's not careful. I mean, I can't believe he hasn't hurt himself enough times
Starting point is 00:17:09 to think, I'm going to stop doing this now. I just think, hey, it's walking forwards, man. He's changed. But like, I just don't think that... That could be anyone. He must be experiencing life in such a different way. Because obviously, if you're walking forwards, you see something and it disappears.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And you see something and it disappears. If you are constantly walking backwards, you see something... You don't and you see something and then it disappears. If you are constantly walking backwards, you see something and you see it for ages. It depends which direction it's going. What?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Not if it's going in the same direction as you, Pete. No, you experience, that's only for moving objects but for static objects, you would see it for longer so you would enjoy
Starting point is 00:17:40 the image longer if you're walking forwards. But you've got absolutely no way of preparing yourself about anything that could come in front of you. Well, yeah But you've got absolutely no way of preparing yourself about anything that could come in front of you. Well, yeah. That's a very shallow way of thinking.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I think billions of years of evolution can't be wrong. You notice that all predators in the animal kingdom have forward-facing eyes and all, generally, prey have sideways-facing eyes.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Ah, that's clever. So a gazelle or whatever would have a, or a fucking sheep or whatever would have eyes that can look around and predators have forward facing eyes
Starting point is 00:18:09 and human beings are very much apex predators, aren't they? So don't be messing up the system. Imagine if that's all it took to undo four billion years
Starting point is 00:18:16 of evolution. A man just to walk backwards and everyone go, fuck me. Why aren't I doing that? That's brilliant. And you go on stage and you see just a load
Starting point is 00:18:24 of the backs of people's heads. Well, we've got self-driving cars now, so we don't need to worry about it. Do you know what, though? There's a really good self-driving car ride at Epcot, as we talked about on Monday at Epcot. It's called Test Track. It's really 90s,
Starting point is 00:18:37 but it's sponsored by the good people at Chevrolet. And you go there and you design your own car. Right. And then it gives you an idea of how that car would perform by putting you in another car and going around a track
Starting point is 00:18:49 giving you examples of it and that's completely self-driving and also the pods at Heathrow Airport are self-driving cars as well yeah they're on a very
Starting point is 00:18:57 finite track though aren't they they're not what do you mean they're not on a track they're much more too yeah as in a buffer
Starting point is 00:19:03 like it's like a bowling alley isn't it it's like a there's isn't it it's like a there's buffers on each side so you can't really go anywhere like when you go
Starting point is 00:19:08 to a bowling and you put the buffers in I do and I use the little ramp to roll it true
Starting point is 00:19:12 but I don't think so I think I've got a personal opinion based on absolutely no expertise whatsoever that self-driving cars probably
Starting point is 00:19:19 won't happen anytime soon I mean they're already on the roads aren't they but people don't trust them that's the problem I'd trust? But people don't trust them.
Starting point is 00:19:25 That's the problem. I'd trust them more than a normal car. So if I said to you, when you leave the studio in a minute, you've got to get a car to Manchester or whatever, a three-hour drive or whatever, and you can go in this car with this guy here, and you can meet him, talk to him,
Starting point is 00:19:40 find out what he's like, or you go in this self-driving car, as the roads are as they are now, because bear in mind the infrastructure projects and road changes might take years, which is also going to delay it. What one are you choosing? Well, I'm going to have to have the choice, probably him now,
Starting point is 00:19:53 but I mean, to be honest, I think in the UK, self-driving cars are more problematic. There's less room, I think. I think there's something to do with that. But in the future... Anything in the future. In the future, I'd quite like to fly.
Starting point is 00:20:05 It's irrelevant. No, but in the close future, the future in the future I'd quite like to fly it's irrelevant no but in the close future in five years time five years time you could I would happily get into a self-driving car it will be fun
Starting point is 00:20:14 fun fun and what about a self-driving self-flying plane that's the big one well I mean it does a lot of things automatically doesn't it
Starting point is 00:20:22 and it takes human error out of it but people still don't like it what about I reckon the younger generation might be more open to it anyway not after these Well, I mean, it does a lot of things automatically, doesn't it? And it takes human error out of it, but people still don't like it. What about, I reckon the younger generation might be more open to it. Anyway. Not after these Boeing 707 Maxes, whatever they're called. That was a crush.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Do you know what was really surprising about that? And I'm going to assume that people listening know what we're talking about here. I think we've talked about it before. Right. The fact that they said, Boeing released a statement saying and signed off saying oh spaghetti oh no saying that these airlines didn't choose to take up the extra
Starting point is 00:20:50 safety features as an added extra right now if you are flying a plane it needs to be safe you do not want to hear that no you don't they're in a whole heap of trouble
Starting point is 00:20:59 and they're trying to climb out I might buy myself some shares I think it's a bit of a thought but um uh they would obviously the um I was watching a YouTube video, which is not YouTube nowadays,
Starting point is 00:21:08 of a pilot sort of saying, well, these are the ways you can get out of this particular problem with the 747 MAX. And after you've gone through all of these steps, if the plane is still doing a naughty, you have got to brace your hands in a certain way and pull as hard as you can
Starting point is 00:21:28 with your feet on the desk in front of you, on the instrument panel, and pull as hard as you can, making sure that you don't break your own arms for pulling that hard. And that should right it eventually. It's like, shouldn't have to do that. Shouldn't have to do that. Nah. Shouldn't have to do that. There was a, there was a, a plane incident, well,
Starting point is 00:21:48 a plane crash, and a flight that I believe was either flying back from or to Rio. Right. And I think it might have been that Air France one. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And the investigation there, I'm fairly certain, said that the guy on the, so there was two pilots and one of them was asleep having his break. And the right hand pilot, or the left, one of the guy on the, so there was two pilots and one of them was asleep having his break and the right hand pilot
Starting point is 00:22:07 or the left, one of the two pilots anyway, was pulling back on the stick which was to the right of him so the left hand guy couldn't see it and the right hand guy was very inexperienced
Starting point is 00:22:15 and they couldn't work out why he kept losing attitude. All they needed to do was tip the nose forward, pick up some speed and bring it up again. Right, yeah. And he just didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Basically, it basically piled into the sea. Oh, wow. So they crashed? Yeah. Everyone died. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 It was an incredible set of circumstances. I'm sure there's more information to it than that. If you know about it, hello at lukeandpeachow.com, of course. You'd think that there'd be
Starting point is 00:22:38 an in-compact camera. We are at the mercy of these people. We are at the mercy of them, Pete. I listen to a lot of air traffic control uh not transcripts um kind of audio uh of when things go a little awry right and like arguments between
Starting point is 00:22:52 pilots and uh and air traffic control staff like what fascinating just doing that just kind of like uh well you should have told me that five minutes ago um i've been or he'll have a go around you got to go around the um the the, what do you call it, the runway. I shouldn't know that. The runway's full of another plane or whatever. And the guy's going,
Starting point is 00:23:13 I don't want to do another round. I've got, I haven't got enough fuel. He suddenly goes, I don't want to do another round. Oh, and also I've got, I've not got enough fuel. And these guys are like,
Starting point is 00:23:21 oh for fuck's sake, yeah, alright, get on the emergency bloody, emergency thing. There's no way anyone else can check what their fuel is. Just check. I don't know. I can got enough fuel. And these guys are like, oh, for fuck's sake. Yeah, all right, get on the emergency bloody thing. Oh, really? There's no way anyone else can check what their fuel is. Just check. I can see your fuel there. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Coming out of Orlando last week, you know, every afternoon in the summer, pretty much, Orlando has massive thunderstorms. Like crazy thunderstorms. Yeah. And we were sat on the tarmac
Starting point is 00:23:41 for quite a while, an hour and a half maybe, while this thunderstorm passed over and it's annoying not having any sort of channel for your anger isn't it because you can't blame anyone
Starting point is 00:23:50 no I was stuck I don't believe in I was stuck in Houston ones because the walkway had certain rules as to how far away a lightning storm can
Starting point is 00:24:00 be because the walkway is not grounded and it's just a metal tube effectively it's not great if you get stuck in that and the lightning comes.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Certain companies, I think American Airlines is five miles or something as well. Some airline companies have a rule of ten miles away. The lightning storm has to be ten miles away but I think Americans you can have it ten miles away which is a bit annoying. I believe they set their own agenda by state because
Starting point is 00:24:21 Orlando, the problem with Orlando is that the union who look after the workers who do luggage and work out on the tarmac refuse to work in a thunderstorm
Starting point is 00:24:32 so they just go straight in so I think the plane itself is generally fine oh yeah the plane's fine but it's more the walkway obviously if a plane
Starting point is 00:24:41 a big metal tube gets struck on the ground it's still going to be painful and problematic. But if you search online about these problems at Orlando specifically, there are loads of people complaining that when they got home, all their luggage was completely drenched. Because literally as soon as the rain starts coming in,
Starting point is 00:24:57 they just leave it. And so if you've not got waterproof luggage, it just gets completely drenched. Another reason to wrap it in plastic, I guess. Yeah, but I thought that was really fascinating, purely because surely that's going to affect the weight of the plane. What do you mean? If everything's soaking wet, it's going to be far heavier.
Starting point is 00:25:09 That's a bit marginal, surely. Surely. You reckon? Yeah. Interesting. All right, let's squeeze another email in. This one from Jason, changing trains completely. I was going to actually rinse you before on your Instagram.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Go on. You were coming back from your holiday and slash wedding, and you took a picture of you on the plane. Yeah. A coquettishly little club world menu on the side. Pathetic.
Starting point is 00:25:30 That's coquettish? Pathetic. What was the actual picture? What was the picture? I don't know. You're taking a picture of you watching The Office. Classic.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah, but there was a club world little, I'm in business. You can't just drop that in there. That's you in a lounge with a glass of red wine going, don't mind if I do. With this one. I'm off on my holiday with this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. business that's you in a lounge with a glass of red wine going don't mind if I do
Starting point is 00:25:46 with this one I'm off on my holiday with this one don't mind if I do first time I've ever flown business you want to talk about it
Starting point is 00:25:53 if you want I'm happy to talk about it I thought it was good yeah decent yeah did you fly with BA
Starting point is 00:25:58 hub balls BA somebody was complaining my mum sent me a picture of somebody just puked you know the footrests make some part of the bed?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yes. Someone had just clearly done a big vomit and put the chair back up. Oh God. And the next person went, there's vomit all over my chair. And the flight attendant came over and went, did you just vomit on that? She's like, it's dry. He's going. I thought she was going to say, you don't like it pay more for first
Starting point is 00:26:26 no we got a very good deal they were doing that thing where I think because a load of people travel to Orlando on holiday with
Starting point is 00:26:33 families generally speaking people can't afford to go to business I generally can't it's the first time I've ever flown business
Starting point is 00:26:37 they're trying to sell the seats so they sell them cheap it was genuinely very competitive and you had to go to the lounge
Starting point is 00:26:43 which meant I could watch the England game in the lounge but it was fun it was good I still and you had to go to the lounge which meant I could watch the England game in the lounge as well but it was fun it was good I still couldn't really sleep that well
Starting point is 00:26:49 because I'm still far too big for the bed so it was a bit of a shame my wife slept like an absolute baby so it was good I watched a video of a man
Starting point is 00:26:57 he's done this a few things before I think he's like an aviation geek but he flies around the world he did like he did did he do an I think he did 72 hours world. He did like, he did, did he do an American, I think he did 72 hours
Starting point is 00:27:06 in economy. He did like around the world. How did he even do that? He did a round the world trip in economy and he looked miserable. I don't know why he'd do that. But he just loves planes.
Starting point is 00:27:18 He loves flying. Right. His latest one was starting in Greenwich, you know, the green GMT line. Starting there on a Friday morning about 10 o'clock,
Starting point is 00:27:29 going around the world. A couple of business flights in there, but going around the world from India and going through Singapore, India, Kuwait, I think he stops in. Going around the world in 80 hours or something like that. So he's back there Monday night
Starting point is 00:27:45 I think or Monday afternoon and he managed it which is pretty good but it was just he Did he book it in advance or did he just do it when he went out there?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah no no he booked it in advance so he sort of planned his thing it was quite a good video but again he just looked really ill at the end of it because it's just miserable
Starting point is 00:28:01 being on a flight for that like a connection of flights and he sort of went into India for a little bit and had a fly around with his friend in Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:28:09 and stuff for a bit and then managed to make it back with six minutes to spare. That was quite... I like when people set themselves little challenges. Yeah, it's nice. I didn't realise,
Starting point is 00:28:17 I thought he was like just a single man but he's got a wife and two kids. I was like, mate, how are you getting away with that? But I mean, I guess he's making money
Starting point is 00:28:22 out of his YouTube day. I didn't realise that Pakistan had closed their airspace. Oh, right. To punish India, presumably. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I'm going to scrap those two. But in response to suicide bombing, they shut Pakistani airspace until June, I think. So people have to sort of literally do
Starting point is 00:28:40 like an hour-long detour around Pakistani airspace. Oh, right. I had no idea that either. On the business class thing from, from, from my side, I am,
Starting point is 00:28:48 like I said, it was a good deal. It was the first time I've ever done it. And I had to go straight to work on Friday. And I just thought. Invaluable. Yeah. If you,
Starting point is 00:28:54 if you take, take the value of it based on the price they're offering it. Um, I'm, I've had a really busy time, as you know, we've done a lot of traveling, a lot of work over the last four weeks or so.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I thought it would be great for me to actually get some sleep because it's an eight and a half hour one actually no it's eight hours fifty overnight so the theory being if you can get a bit
Starting point is 00:29:10 of sleep in you can get straight at it on the Friday so that was kind of the thinking I don't regret doing it I thought it was decent
Starting point is 00:29:16 you don't have to explain it it was just the cheeky little menu that made me laugh but I want people to understand that it's a hard fought,
Starting point is 00:29:25 hard won thing to be able to do it because it takes a lot of work to earn the money. I do not mind admitting that I've spent a bit more money than usual to go to Tokyo next week. You're going first.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Private jet. Yeah, can you imagine? And I'm going business, but I'd shit, but you'd usually go direct would be here to Tokyo. It's like 800 quid. It's expensive.
Starting point is 00:29:44 How long is the flight? 14, 13 hours. And it's a killer for time difference as well, right? It is a little bit, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But if you change in Frankfurt, you can get a pretty reasonable business class flight with Lufthansa slash ANA. Okay. All Nippon Airways. Well, you should report back.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'm sure people won't begrudge us having experiences and tell them about it for free. So do it. Put your hand in your pocket and get in first and video it. So we can see what it's like.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Is it a taxable expense? I'll never be able to fly first as long as I live. I don't think so. I cannot, I think the jump from businesses first isn't worth it, but they jump from economy or premium. So I normally fly premium, which is like an extra few hundred quid.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. And I don't fly to only when I go to the U S I would happily fly economy anywhere in Europe. When I go to the U S cause it's fly economy anywhere in Europe. When I go to the US, because it's a longer flight and we're going to go see family and usually invariably I'm working straight away. When I come back again,
Starting point is 00:30:32 it's just better. Also, I'm fucking six foot three. I can't sit in economy now because they've made the leg thing so small that it's just ridiculous. But anyway, hello at Luke and Peach, they're getting in touch.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Sorry to Jason for not getting to your email, mate. We've got to go. We're out of time. I promise you we'll get to it next's so they get in touch. Sorry to Jason for not getting to your email, mate. We've got to go. We're out of time. I promise you we'll get to it next week. Thanks for your patience. Thanks to everyone for listening and we'll be back on Monday.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Pete, say your emotional and full and frank goodbyes now. See you later, Tedds. this was a radius to kind of production

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