The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 182: Back with a Boston Crab
Episode Date: July 4, 2019After an extended break involving several 'best of' episodes, Pete and Luke are back in the studio and talking through all your old favourites, as well as some new stories besides.This time around we ...go over Pete's experiences in Japan (clue: it involved a lot of rain), hear about an amazing loophole in the law preventing driving solo in the car pool lane, and marvel at Pete finding himself on the end of a savage wrestling move at school.Elsewhere, there's a listener experiencing a disgraceful injustice, big talk about geoblocking of video content, and hot tubs on tour. That'll make sense when you actually listen...To get in touch, it's: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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So we're doing this.
So we're doing this.
Sorry, mate.
Go.
Go.
Turn your phone off.
Unless, of course, you're listening to the Luke and Pete Show.
Episode 182.
I wasn't actually asking you to turn your phone off.
I just got the phone out of my pocket and I thought I'd better turn mine off.
You've probably got better studio etiquette than I have.
Although I do notice a lot of uncovered water carriers over your side of the desk
because you've been interviewing somebody.
Yes, I've been interviewing Mesut Ozil's agent.
Oh!
Off the press.
I hope you asked him about his decisions.
This is a little bit of extra information
listeners to the Luke and Pete show get.
I mean, that's not even been announced yet.
That is like a good little Easter egg for people listening.
Very handsome.
Just, I love men. Very handsome. I love men.
I just love men.
When a man is that swish and confident...
Swish is swish, isn't it?
Yeah.
Does it make you feel a little bit intimidated?
Not really.
It makes me sort of think I need more room for white crisp shirts.
I need well-fitted white crisp shirts.
Because me, I'm a shorts and at this point
a Japanese football shirt kind of guy in the summer
but I fear as I rapidly approach my horrible 40s
as I am going to call them,
I will have to turn to the jean and white shirt
and sunglasses and tan.
This is quite an interesting episode for us, Pete, because people who are... I'll be a judge of that. Okay, well, we've given ourselves the this is a quite an interesting episode for us pete because
people who are that okay well we've given ourselves the best chance of making an interesting
episode the the situation is of course people have been listening to and hopefully enjoying
the best of episodes that we put out for the start of the summer because you and i or a
combination of you or i were away and now we are back in the studio back in the habit live and
direct as wad would say with a
carafe of water in front of us carafe it is a carafe as well of water in front of us and um
we're back in it we can see we still got it still got the magic i got the magic people have been
chipping off haven't they what saying um we're not doing enough of listener emails which are the best
bit so we're gonna probably ignore that well let's do some listener emails i haven are the best bit. So we're going to probably ignore that. Well, let's do some listener emails.
I haven't seen you in a Luke and Pete setting for a long time now.
So I'm interested to know what's changed,
brother.
Um,
I got soggy in Japan.
Um,
somebody made the joke that Japan is so rainy at the moment.
Godzilla has retreated back into the sea where it's drier,
uh,
for a holiday in which I spent,
um,
10 days on the, uh the coast of Kyushu.
It basically rained every single fucking day
and was a waste of all of my money, time, effort.
I did get drunk a lot because that was the only thing to do.
Was it literally raining every day?
It was literally raining every day from the start of the day to the end of the day
with maybe an hour's respite per day, if you were lucky,
which is rather upsetting
when you spend all that money.
What were you able to do instead apart from go to the pub?
Did they have pubs?
They had pubs, yeah.
Are they more like bars though?
I took a friend to...
Was there an Irish pub where you were?
Yeah, there were a lot of places.
The Hub, I think I spoke about it before.
The Hub is the big I spoke about it before. The Hub is the
big British pub
kind of parody.
Is there British
diaspora there?
Are there kind of
immigrants there?
Yeah,
there's loads.
We actually went
on the last night
in...
Because you've said
before,
sorry Matt,
I'm not a big
expert in Japanese
culture as you know
but you've said to me
on more than one
occasion,
they don't have a
huge amount of
immigration there.
but there's enough
British people there
to sustain a British pub, is there?
No, it's a British kind of pub
in the same way that we would visit a French restaurant.
They visit it because the beer's quite nice
and it's quite busy
and there are enough foreign people
for Japanese people to practice their English.
That seems to be the case in point.
Hello, ladies.
Hello.
Please come and practice your English with me.
Is that what you say
yeah definitely
just give a sign
on the sandwich
board right now
just saying that
in Japanese
well actually
the
obviously
the Japanese
have got a
terrible
underpopulation
problem
they need more
people
they need more
immigrants
but they're so
closed off
Shinzo Abe
began a
you know like
in Peru
I think in Brazil
as well
obviously got a big
Japanese
diaspora
diaspora
I have a real problem
saying that word
for some reason
and others too
yeah
they offered them
like a five year visa
for anyone
I think fourth generation
Japanese
and it's like
yeah but like
it's five years
you know what I mean
like come work for us
do some menial jobs
because you're like
18 or 19
and then fuck off
back home
it's embarrassing
well there's no
and in the first
three months
prospect of renewing it
in the first three months
I don't know
but in the first three months
literally nobody
took him up on it
really
isn't that incredible
yeah
great great
from Brazil as well
from Sao Paulo
could you have
engineered yourself
into there somehow
I think if I can't engineer an Irish passport with an Irish great-grandmother,
I think I'd find it very difficult to prove any kind of Japanese citizenship or back.
What would be the situation if you wanted to move to Japan?
Visa-wise.
Well, you'd need to... your visa's sponsored by someone.
So you'd need a job to go to, perhaps.
You'd need a job to go to or a language school to teach at.
But obviously language schools are very poorly paid.
Right.
And who wants to speak like me, quite frankly?
Yeah, so what else did you get up to?
Why I, man?
Went to the Russian Museum, obviously.
You appeared on an episode of Set Meals, as we pre-promoted.
Popped in and had a bit of food with Sam.
Some chicken hearts on sticks.
And his co-host said that I spoke a little Japanese,
which is correct, technically,
but it still burned a little.
You've been practicing it for 15 years.
It was outrageous.
It was very nice,
and they took us to a beautiful place
where they cooked meat.
Right.
And it was very lovely.
I had a bit of horse meat as well later on.
Oh, yeah?
What was that like? The flank was just fat, but it is quite nice horse meat. It. And it was very lovely. I had a bit of horse meat as well later on. Oh yeah? What was that like?
The flank was just fat
but it is quite nice
horse meat.
It's interesting
you say that
because I always think
of a horse as being
a very lean animal.
Well I guess the flank
is like
it's just all
I think the path
that they choose
to put in the
because it's all uncooked
it's not cooked at any point
so it's just like that.
Other stuff I had certainly
but yeah. Chris Broad from Abroad in Japan the podcast I did with him he was trying to taunt me because it's all uncooked. It's not cooked at any point. Oh, right. It's just like that. Other stuff I had, certainly.
But yeah,
Chris Broad from Abroad in Japan,
the podcast I did with him,
he was trying to taunt me into having some horse.
And I'm like,
mate, I'll eat anything.
Don't, like,
you're not testing me.
Yeah, you're not testing me.
You or John,
who we work with,
because you guys
will eat anything, famously.
Put anything in my mouth.
Famously.
Yeah.
I get a lot of emails
about the ice cream Coolish.
I mentioned on a couple of podcasts that I enjoy a particular kind of ice cream out there called Coolish
that you literally cannot get anywhere other than mainland Japan.
And so every single day of the holiday, I enjoyed Coolish just to get all my Coolish in for the year.
But I get a tweet every day or two about somebody in Japan with a picture of Coolish going,
here, Pete, I a picture of Coolish going, here Pete,
I'm having some Coolish.
So I think I am due
some shares
in the lot here.
Try and get the franchise
for the UK, mate.
Ice cream, I think.
There's an ice cream van
next to the field
on the way back to the...
Oh, maybe he's got a hookup there.
Yeah, maybe you should
do that.
Just feel for a minute
because I just need to
close the curtain
because there's like
a light shining off
the windscreen of a car
and it's making me blind.
Alright then,
what kind of car is it?
Describe it to us.
Describe it to us.
An old estate car.
What makes an estate car?
Is it like bigger
than the caboose
to keep some dogs in?
An estate is a car
that's got like
an elongated boot
so you can get
more stuff in it.
It's kind of a family car
type thing.
Nice, I like it.
I've got a quick
news story for you. Go on. of a family car type thing. Nice, I like it. I've got a quick news story for you, Luke.
I'm enjoying this one.
On Monday,
Nevada Highway Patrol trooper
Travis Smacker,
who was a great name,
pulled over a minivan
in the high occupancy vehicle lane.
You know, like the kind of carpool lane.
A hov.
Because nobody else was visible inside
except for the driver.
Turns out, get this,
the driver works for a funeral home
and was transporting a body.
So he gets away with it on a technicality.
Does he get away with it or not?
He immediately tells me he's got the remains of a person
in the vehicle behind him.
I'd be taking that loophole all day.
All day long.
It's a person.
How many times do you get to admit that to a police officer
and not immediately get a gun drawn on you?
If the police officer then said to me,
well, yeah, but it's not a person anymore because he's dead,
I would be like, how dare you?
Oh, have some respect.
You put him in a carrier bag, mate.
You put him in a bag for life, ironically.
Just get a little urn.
Put it on the windscreen.
Yeah, a smacker.
Yeah, basically, I kind of glanced in the back and confirmed that.
So was this guy just loose about the hoose in the caboose of the estate car,
this bloody dick?
Anyway.
That's a good story, that.
I feel like you should get away with it.
Well, it was in the cargo area.
It was a body bag strapped to a gurney.
Kind of threw me off a little bit, and then he just made that funny remark,
something along the lines of, so he won't count.
Nevada's high occupancy vehicle rules do not clarify whether
an occupant must be breathing and leans on federal law which is not much clearer um so for the nevada
highway patrol trooper jason uh baruchuk uh this person was obviously a descendant a descendant a
decedent uh and in the cargo area of the car so they they would not qualify in the HOV lane. So if you are thinking of defeating
the high occupancy vehicle lane
in your town or in your state...
We know you've all seen the film Weekend at Bernie's.
Exactly. It's not going to work this time.
Say the name of the Nevada State Trooper again.
Travis Smacker was the original one.
No, the other name after that.
The second one. Jason Barachuk.
You sound like the girl from Little Mix
trying to do a Jamaican accent. Barachuk. You sound like the girl from Little Mix trying to do a Jamaican accent.
Barachuk.
Barachuk.
Barachuk.
Good.
That's a good story.
And it's also nice to hear a story involving some kind of member of the US law enforcement,
which doesn't end in a death of someone from an ethnic minority.
Good news.
Good news.
The news story I found that sort of caught my eye, and it was partly inspired by a chat that we had
with Jim Campbell yesterday.
Finnish inventor.
And do you know what?
When you do this type of show,
the last thing you want to be doing is saying Finnish names
because they are the hardest.
They're the hardest.
Not as hard as the Bardiknik,
clearly a Polish name that I tried.
So I'm going to have a go at this.
Finnish inventor Jana Kapilajeto
has sailed his self-made floating hot tub
across the Gulf of Finland,
travelling the 90km journey from Helsinki to Tallinn
in Estonia in just over 10 hours.
Lovely.
Picture that's great.
They're having a lovely old time.
One of them's got a Stetson on.
Oh, so it's like like because we had this yesterday
that's what I'm saying
me and Jim
were having an argument
about what constitutes
a hot tub
I would argue
that is a boat
with a hot tub
in it
in the same way
that there was
a stand up
who did a show
in Edinburgh
that I interviewed once
who exclaimed
that he crossed
the channel
in a bathtub
except it wasn't
a bathtub
it was a bathtub that was it wasn't a bathtub.
It was a bathtub that was clearly converted into some kind of boat.
It was not a bathtub.
We need clarity on this,
because that, to me, is, again,
the kind of loophole you're talking about there
in the carpool lane, I like.
The kind of loophole like that, I don't like.
No, exactly.
This guy, to be fair to him...
He's turning it into a catamaran,
and I'm not having it.
But this guy here, to be fair,
it's a self-made floating hot tub.
So he's not just got a hot tub and stuck it on a boat.
Yeah.
As far as I know,
the video's not available in my country, sadly.
I mean, can I just say, it's a video...
Geolocking is frustrating at best.
I can get on board with the idea
that you pay a billion pounds for rights to something
and someone else has paid
some other amount of the rights in the other country
and you don't want a cross-pollination situation. I get that.
This is a self-made video
of a man who's built a hot tub and stuck
it on a boat or whatever he's done and sailed it across the
Gulf of Finland. I don't think it needs to geo-block it.
Joined up, there should be a
data set that joins up different
versions of the same video
that can serve whatever adverts serve that
country best and it should
replace it algorithmically
or dynamically at
point of source. When I was watching the
when I was reading about the Women's World
Cup while I was in Japan
all the videos were just
this is not available in your country. Well,
you know what? Don't pretend there's a video there then.
Just block that. Just take that content out,
remove it,
don't even offer it as an option.
I usually waste my click.
Those little touchpads,
they've only got a finite amount of clicks in them.
So has your finger.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Like the Tommy Cooper joke
when the guy goes to the doctor and says,
Doctor, it hurts here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.
He says, you've broken your finger.
I watched Tommy Cooper die yesterday. I don't know don't know i watched it died on stage yeah it was uh it just sort of
crumples it's not nice it's not nice um nice i was gonna say to you peter oh yes one one loophole
around uh geo blocking of video content that uh i wanted to talk about but i'm conscious that i
might be ill-equipped to do so no i I'm conscious that I might be...
You're equipped to do so?
No, I feel like I might be letting the cat out the bag.
I want people to benefit.
So people who are listening to this,
the Luke and Pete show tight-knit community,
don't go spreading this.
They're tight-knitters.
But if you've got a Sky Go account,
i.e. you watch Sky Sports on your phone or on your laptop,
it works in other countries.
It works... When we were in Lisbon recently it worked there right and it worked also in greece yeah i'm just saying that's surprising
right because there will be greek rights holders in greece who will probably have something to say
about that um yeah you'd think that well i guess there's no work in the us though would it be would
it be yeah i will i guess it will be in the US would it be would it be yeah I guess it would be
in the reverse
I guess you couldn't get
a Greek
whatever their rights holders are
their online version of that
and you couldn't transport it
to the UK
because obviously the UK
is the most expensive one
I thought it might be
an EU thing or something
yeah maybe
yeah
anyway we'll leave you
to ponder over that
while we take a quick ad break
after which we are going to
talk VPNs yeah talk a bit more about download rights mechanisms Anyway, we'll leave you to ponder over that while we take a quick ad break, after which we are going to...
Talk VPNs.
Yeah, talk a bit more about download rights mechanisms.
Lovely.
Mechanisms.
See that chap over there?
Get your hand off my penis!
We got a lot of emails about Julian Assange.
Julian Assange there.
We got a lot of tweets, sorry, about Glastonbury.
Oh, good, we'll talk about that.
Yeah, there's loads of flags.
Oh, there was one flag at least.
They got reported a million times in the Luke and Pete Shaw account,
at Luke and Pete Shaw on Twitter.
And, yeah, it basically picks up.
Get your hands off my penis.
A lot of people.
This is Democracy Manifest.
A lot of people.
This is Democracy Manifest.
A lot of people signing off their emails now Julian Assange as well
when you had a little
pop at me there
and I noticed it
about download rights
mechanisms
that was conversations
we used to have at Sky
when I worked there
DRM they'd call it
it would be about
how you
mechanisms
I don't know why
because I think it was
nascent
it was like
trying to stop people
doing that
well I know what DRM
I think it's mechanism
download rights management
maybe
maybe that management so stuff your mechanism up your mechanism and that's what I'll be doing Well, I know what DRM is. I think it's mechanism, isn't it? Download Rights Management, maybe? Maybe that.
Management.
So stuff your mechanism up your mechanism.
And that's what I'll be doing on Monday's show.
We've got an email here.
Obviously, the email address is hello at lukeandpeachshow.com.
So do get in touch.
We've got loads to get through because we've been doing best of episodes
and all the rest of it.
And we've sometimes, quite frankly, need to have a break.
So we went on a little break.
Suck it. um suck on that um but this email has come from sriram who says hi gentlemen
your talk of childhood games has brought back rather traumatizing memories of a practice that
used to be quite prevalent over here in india referred to as birthday bumps it was customary
for a group a group of your friends and quite often some people who weren't even your friends
to lift you by your arms and legs
and kick your backside as hard as they can.
So that's interesting because birthday bumps in the UK growing up
wasn't that, was it?
It was on the floor, kind of...
Sort of throw you up and down by your arms and legs.
No, it was on the floor kicking, yeah.
It wasn't that where I grew up.
It was an acceptable practice for the victim
to receive one kick from each
so-called friend
for each year the victim
had been on the planet.
That's a lot of kicks, isn't it?
That is a lot of kicks.
I think it would be fair to say,
he says,
Sir MD,
it wasn't a pleasant experience.
Anyway, he says,
I was at the receiving end
of said game many times,
but the year of 2005
when I was 13
especially stands out
in my memory.
In my school,
each student was handed
a diary at the beginning
of the year.
At the end of the diary, there were a couple of pages reserved for remarks by teachers
and one page for remarks by the principal, which is a headmaster to you guys.
The concept being that if a student was being naughty,
the teacher would write a remark in said student's diary,
which is to be shown and signed off by the parents.
So it could be quite terrifying, really.
I mean, I remember hiding all the school reports that I used to get.
How did you get away with that though how did you get away with
well in it so for the first part of school obviously i couldn't get away with it but
towards as i got a bit older this is something that's come up in my family time and time again
and my parents kind of get the piss taken out of them a bit by my sister and some of the other
family members because i told my mum at one point that the school would stop doing school reports for people of a certain age yeah and it was all
covered by parents evening and they sort of believed me right there's only when we moved
house when i was about 18 or 19 maybe a bit younger that um we were cleaning out my one of
my wardrobes and they found the i told you about before the plaster cast of my wrist yes it was just stinking the place out of the plastic bag and they found the, I told you about before, the plaster cast of my wrist. Yes.
It was just stinking the place out
of the plastic bag
and they found all the old school reports.
But the thing is,
the school reports weren't actually that bad.
They were just saying,
Luke needs to try harder
and he spends all his time talking.
A very underwhelming version of Eminem's
cleaning out my closet.
Yeah.
An old plaster cast
and some school reports he'd hidden.
I'm sorry, Mama.
I never meant to hurt you.
You haven't.
You've just been a dick.
All right. Yeah, so it I never meant to hurt you. You haven't. You've just been a dick. Alright.
Yeah, so it could have been a big deal.
So, Surami says, in India,
teachers are generally very well respected, and a remark would be considered a serious offence
and probably lead to serious consequences.
A principal's remark was, however,
much, much more serious, and
was reserved for quite serious violations of the
school's rules. In 2005,
during our lunch recess, I put in a valiant effort to escape my friends and avoid getting the shit kicked out of me
unfortunately it so happened it was almost impossible to escape their superior numbers
and pack tactics after the deed was done i was lying face down on the ground rubbing my protesting
ass when we hear a familiar voice from up above it just so happens that my friends had managed
to catch me exactly below the office of the principal.
Having heard and seen the incident,
he summoned all of us to his office with our diaries.
Justifiably, my friends all got remarks in their diaries
stating they had been engaging in violent and illegal activities
within the school premises.
That's quite serious.
I, on the other hand, received a remark
that I had been participating in violent and illegal activities.
That's not fair.
You have no idea how difficult it was to convince my parents that I was not part of a gang,
but rather had been the innocent victim.
To this day, this incident still rankles me.
And I would say this is a prime example of what I would term a school injustices.
I would love to hear from other listeners about some of the ways in which the school justice system fucked them over.
Apologies for the long email. Love the show. Reg show regards sriram pete you are annoyed by that i can
tell by your face i'm furious i was told that um indian schools were fantastic uh they've got
mufti day where everyone uh it's like uh everyone can wear what they want on a friday is that right
i think reminds me of that kirby enthusiasm episodeiasm episode where Larry and the guy who also plays the granddad in Up, the old guy in Up, gets pissed off because they're dressed down Friday in the law office.
And he says, well, I'm not letting you handle any of my accounts or affairs if you're going to dress like that.
But yeah, I believe that is correct.
Yeah. And then this happens.
and then this happens.
So I thought Indian schools were a place of learning and casual clothes on a Friday,
but I did not realise the headmaster,
because the headmaster's got loads of cases to deal with every day.
But the annoying thing is,
it's like when M. Bison visits Chun-Li's village
and kills her parents in the film.
In the film, yeah.
Who could forget the film?
Apart from me, till just then.
That was the defining moment in your life. For me, it was just Tuesday. in the film that says who could forget the film apart from me until just then that was your
that was the defining
moment in your life
for me
it was just Tuesday
so for that
principle
he just goes
I'll just write a bit
he participated
in some crowd violence
and some school
illegal activity
but to that kid
Shriram
he's like
well I'm fucked
my mum and dad's
going to bloody
kick the
I'm going to get
two birthday bumps
and what I would say
is
and it's my birthday yeah that headmaster should be the man he's a to bloody kick the... I'm going to get two birthday bumps. And what I would say is... And it's my birthday.
Yeah, that headmaster should be the man...
He's a man of letters, right?
Yeah.
He should be able to interpret a situation.
Exactly.
And see a kid lying face down
getting the shit kicked out of him.
Yeah.
And not write him up for that.
Maybe he thought that she rambled into S&M.
Was it?
Maybe it was like a sex cult.
He's a...
Yeah, I mean, he was a child.
Well...
Have you...
Any school injustices
that you
kids can't get into
SNM
they don't know
everything nowadays
it's true actually
exactly
they are into everything
can't understand a word
of saying can you
these days
Pete what
school injustices
befell you
you must have
I was put into
a Boston Crab once
by a bigger boy
and I tried to is that the leg one because I get confused between that and the Cobra Clutch the a bigger boy. Is that the leg one?
Because I get confused between that and the Cobra Clutch.
The Cobra Clutch is under the chin.
Oh, yeah.
The Boston Crab is like the...
The Boston Crab's on the top, like really snapping your arse.
It's horrible.
It's like the straight version of the Sharpshooter.
Right, yeah.
Where they pull your legs right around.
You mean as in like...
Bret Hart.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who did the Boston Crab?
I don't know.
Was it Rick the Model Martel, maybe?
Might have been, yeah. Anyway. Either way. Describe it to listeners, just Crab I don't know was it Rick the Model Martel maybe might have been yeah anyway
either way
describe it to listeners
just in case I don't know
it's just a painful
folding up of a man
really
or a boy
but the wrong way right
yeah
it's not right
your body doesn't go that way
it's not designed that way
so to speak
who did that to you
and I would like to point
to the record
I was not into S&M
who did that to you
a bigger boy
I was running over
and slapping on the back.
And it turned...
Name him, name him.
I can't remember.
He was just a bigger lad.
What, in the year above?
Broom school.
Yeah, he was a couple of years
older than me.
Why were you doing that then?
I don't know.
Ask him for trouble.
Yeah.
Were you showing off?
I was in the lion's cage.
I was showing off.
Yeah.
And he came and put me
in the box of crab
and it was so painful
I started crying
and then the teacher
brought both of us
to the principal
and the principal
asked what went on
and I
I came up with
an amazing story
I was doing gymnastics
I'd done a couple of weeks
of gymnastics
because my sister
was doing gymnastics
so my mum was like
let's palm her off
Jim Lynn
her name was
her name was Lynn
and she did gymnastics
at Mount Ipswich Leisure Centre
on a Saturday morning.
Right.
Before I graduated
to the Royal Leicester
on a Saturday.
Yeah.
And I said,
I was,
he was helping me
with my gymnastics.
Why did you say that?
You should have
dubbed him in.
No,
because I feared retribution.
A murder.
A murder.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Rules of the playground.
I can imagine
all the older kids
sat around in their common room
smoking cigarettes going,
what do you think of this Donaldson kid?
Is he going to stand up?
Is he a stand-up guy?
Is he going to break?
You didn't dub him in at all?
No, I didn't dub him in at all.
What did the older kids say?
Well, I don't know.
I never saw that child again.
Maybe he was expelled.
Anyway.
Turned to a life of crap.
I'm delighted to say.
Here he is.
Is that why you close the curtain?
Yeah.
So how did they even get you
into Boston Crab?
He was just so much more stronger,
so much more powerful than you.
I mean, most,
I reckon if I walk down the street,
there's not a single person
who couldn't get me
into a Boston Crab.
Yeah, I find you quite easy
to physically manipulate.
No, I just go limp
when you go near me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Path of least resistance.
I'm like Gandhi
when Randy Luke is around.
Yeah.
But we,
because one of the things
I remember from childhood,
I used to love wrestling
until I was about 14 or something.
And I used to watch wrestling
on VHS tapes
at my mate's house
down the road.
And I remember,
obviously then,
the next thing you want to do
is just practice the moves
and stuff.
But I remember
when I realised
that wrestling was staged,
I know it's not,
people don't like it
when you say fake but you know what i mean um it's entertainment effectively um i realized that when i
just was able to understand how difficult the moves are to get on someone when they don't want
to have it put on them do you know what i mean yeah there's no way you can get someone a sharpshooter
yeah unless they let you yeah so you have to then so what i used to do is you'd be like okay
let me put a sharpshooter on you there and they'd be like oh all right but you have to when
i tap out you have to let me and then in return i want to get you in like a cobra clutch or whatever
and that's like at that point you're thinking hang on a minute if you can't get a kid in one
there's no way you're going to get a full grown man yeah there we go have you got an email there
peter i do feel some solidarity with Sriram though because it's really
it does affect you
because your brain
is so susceptible
to learning
and to experiences
at that age
it probably does
affect you quite badly
when you're on the
wrong end of an
injustice
hugely
have you seen this
one it's from
it's an EW
which I think is
like a new kind of
set up run by
Dustin Rhodes
and this chap
he's done a coffin drop
from Derby.
I don't know the wrestler
to be honest
because I've only watched
Is this going to be horrible
to look?
Well, not horrible.
Oh, right on the edge.
He jumps off
the top turnbuckle
doing a coffin drop
and instead of landing
on a flat surface,
he lands
with his spine
right on the old
on the corner
of the mat
I don't think
he's probably got
all kinds of problems
after that
here's a quick example
of a school injustice
before we move on
to another email
at junior school
there was a kid
we used to love football
of course
and there was a kid
who loved cricket
and I quite liked cricket
as well
but I mean
it wasn't my thing
he was kind of known
for cricket
and he would do
that obnoxious thing
that kids would do
where you would,
you know,
like if you're not particularly interested
in something,
you would then say you hated it
and he actually hated football.
Yeah.
But he would say to like
eight or nine other kids
in our class.
I love men at work.
Yeah,
no,
not that.
He was saying he hated football.
And so then,
one of the other kids said,
oh,
well,
you know,
this is really bizarre,
but I promise you it happened. Do you know, Pete, in cricket, when the match kids said, oh, well, you know, this is really bizarre, but I'll
promise you it
happened.
Do you know, Pete,
in cricket, when the
match is finished, the
players run to the
middle and grab the
cricket stumps as
souvenirs before the
fans come on to
grab them.
Right.
If it's like a big
game.
Okay.
So if it's like, I
don't know, the
World Cup final or
an Ashes or whatever.
Who takes precedent?
Who takes the...
I think the players
are closest.
I think the batsmen
will get one or whatever. I think the batsmen will get one.
Whatever.
I don't know.
And so one of the kids in our class at junior school said,
oh, yeah, you know why...
To this kid called Brian who loves cricket.
You know why the players grab the stumps?
It's because they run into the change rooms
and they shove them up each other's arses.
Yeah, I see.
I like it.
A lot of time for that.
Yeah.
It's classic 10 year
old junior school banter yeah right he got so upset about that he like told his parents and
then told the teacher and the headmaster got involved and all of us had to go into the office
of actually wasn't it wasn't i don't think it was the um head teachers ahead of year or whatever it
was right into the office and like explain ourselves and I remember thinking well one
even at the age of like 11
I was like
this is beneath us
this is beneath you
one I didn't even say it
two
I don't know why he said it
I don't even know
this is a problem is it
I mean what's going on
there was no swear words involved
because back then
the swear words were the thing
there were no swear words involved
and I felt quite a keen sense
of injustice about that
maybe the head teacher
believed that
it's never held me back Pete
maybe the head teacher
believed them
what
they do what I had no idea cricket was so rotten to the core yeah as we walked in Maybe the head teacher believed that, Pete. Maybe the head teacher believed them. What?
They do what?
I had no idea cricket was so rotten to the core.
Yeah, as we walked in, she was on the phone going,
yeah, the cricket team, stop it.
Stop the cricket team.
We can no longer have a cricket team because we're worried about internal injuries
of some of our kids.
It's a sex party.
I mean, at least you've got one end to choose
and it's very important which one you do choose.
Exactly.
Have you got an email before we go, Pete?
Yeah, hello to...
Oh, we've got a Julian Assange.
Hello, Pete.
Ever since Playground Grounds
was introduced as a short topic,
I've been anticipating mention
of one of my childhood favourites,
Hot Rice.
Oh, I saw this one.
Yeah, this is an interesting one.
Hot Rice.
Having heard no mention of it
as of yet,
I started to wonder
about the popularity of a game
I naively assumed
was as ubiquitous
in UK schools
as British Bulldogs.
It really wasn't, though. I mean, I've never heard this before
but I've looked at the website
that Julian Assange has linked. Of course he's linked,
he's Julian Assange. Hot Rice is
basically a game of tag, played with a ball
it begins with a huddle of children
who stand in a circle, toe to toe with legs spread a little
at least in Leeds, the ball is
bounced in the middle in time to a mysterious
scatological incantation
and that incantation
goes thusly
Hot
Rice
Bounce
Twice
Shit
Pies
Taste
Nice
Yeah
I have a vague
recollection
of playing this game
I don't remember
ever being called
Hot Rice
No me either
or Shit Pies
Taste Nice
or Once Twice Hot Rice
and the ball And the ball,
if the ball goes between your legs,
you're out, right?
And the person left...
Rings a bell, yeah.
And I vaguely remember that
because you end up using...
Did he say that you end up
using your heels as flippers
like a pinball machine?
Because that's what you kind of do.
So you're like that.
Yeah.
And then you just do that.
Oh, right.
To kick the ball out again.
But if you get a good purchase on it,
you can smash it straight through
someone else's legs
like a nutmeg type thing
yeah
this is great
for this show
for this
because I completely
forgotten about that game
it would never have
come up again
ever for the rest
of my life
if Julian Assange
hadn't emailed in
about it
thank you very much
if you've got any more
childhood games
that we haven't mentioned
so far
get them in
hello at lukeandpeach.com
indeed if you want to
email about anything
at all
we're all ears
aren't we Pete
yeah
in the words
I actually found
the childhood thread
childhood school thread
a little bit
a little bit dull
do you
maybe don't email
about the hot rice one
it's got me back
on the plate
so to speak
don't email about
your childhood experiences
unless they were genuinely disturbing or very funny.
Yeah.
Bloody, if you've ever put a cricket stump up your bum,
I want to hear from you.
Put a condom on it first.
It has to be good because otherwise...
Keep it clean, guys.
I have enough trouble getting Pete to work anyway.
Use a lube.
Yeah, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
If you'd like to say hello to us,
hello at lukenpeetshow.com.
And we'll be back on Monday
with another episode
of the Pete Donaldson and Luke Moore vanity project,
The Luke and Pete Show.
See you then.
I didn't realise there was any vanity involved in this.
Well, it started out like that,
but it's sort of gone now.
It's now a marriage of convenience.
Inconvenience.
This was a Radio Stakhanov production.