The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 193: This could be anywhere
Episode Date: August 12, 2019Happy Monday and a warm welcome to The Luke and Pete Show, it's very nice to see you! Pete's been to Rotterdam for the weekend and has been very impressed by the architecture. Luke isn't sure how much... Pete actually saw of it (boozing), but is happy he had a nice time.In other news we discuss ungratefulness, how important sorbet is to Pete, radio phone-ins, and we also hear from a man working in the frankly enjoyable trade of waterproofing basements. The stories he must have to tell. The mind boggles.To get in touch about your basement, or anything else for that matter, it's hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It is Monday the 12th of August 2019. I'm Luke Moore, that man over there, that part man, part t-shirt over there is Mr Pete Donaldson.
I was frantically trying to dip the audio there but my little fingers were not doing what they're supposed to do
on the side of the iPad, quite frankly.
Your little fingies?
We've got an iPad set up here at the Ramble slash Luke and Pete Show HQ,
and that's what we're dealing with right now.
Stakhanov HQ.
Stakhanov HQ.
Having a few technical issues,
but nothing that's going to affect
the audio quality
of this recording
when I was at
when I was at
uni for doing
a little bit of radio
I was told
there's one of the golden rules
about radio
most of which
you can just disregard
because
it's just stuff made up by
it's just stuff made up
by boring people isn't it
it's stuff made up by
people who have
failed at doing
the job professionally
I find yes and they say never mention your equipment it's like a big no no boring people isn't it it's stuff made up by people who have failed at doing the job professionally I find
yes
and they say
never mention your
equipment
it's like a big no no
because people don't care
people don't care
yeah but have you seen
my texters
some of my texters
are like
what's that smell
who did that
all that stuff
what's the worst texter
you've done on the radio
do you like me
do you like me
what was the answer not overwhelmingly positive
unpositive quite frankly oh so so hang on not overwhelmingly unpositive yeah so it was positive
yeah okay yeah it was all right actually i was quite surprised i'd i'd dared them to give me
both barrels but they were they were they were fair do you find that
even though
people
whether it comes to
podcasting or radio
people are aware
of the day part
they're listening to
always the same
they still complain
even though they still listen
oh yeah yeah
definitely
yeah they're always like
what was the one I had last week
stop talking about
sawbear
and play some good tunes
nobody cares about
sawbear you do and then I started talking more about sawbear loads of it I've seen someone's complaining talking about sorbet and play some good tunes. Nobody cares about sorbet.
You do.
And then I started talking more about sorbet.
Loads of it.
I've seen someone's complaining that I'm talking about sorbet too much.
And then people are like going, I love sorbet.
Why has someone got a problem with sorbet?
And it became a sorbet special.
So be careful what you saw.
Yeah.
Bye.
It's an interesting tactic, isn't it?
By telling someone, bringing a subject up effectively that you don't want to be talked about. Yes. It's a interesting tactic, isn't it? By telling someone, bringing a subject
up effectively that
you don't want to be
talked about.
It's a weird thing to
do.
It's like me saying,
don't think about
me naked.
You're all
magically going to
do it, aren't you?
Yeah, you are.
You just ejaculated.
Bit of both.
Met in the middle.
A little pool of
So do you find yourself,
would you describe yourself
as a popular radio presenter now?
No.
No.
I'm on popular shows
and I make them unpopular.
Actually, my figures are alright.
Look, I'll stick my neck out, guys.
My figures are alright.
Yeah.
Alright, baby.
Because I don't talk very much.
Yeah, you get to play songs.
That's the thing with me.
You get to play songs, yeah.
When I do a radio show
and if I host it
you can't blame the songs
for being unpopular
and I also can't
if I get into the part
if I get into the hour section
right
and it's like a minute in
and I'm thinking
oh Jesus
I've got 13 minutes left
I've got nothing to hide behind
I can't play a song
I can't do shit
so if you
so I've known on talk radio
because it frightens me
and also I start sentences in the middle of sentences
and come back out again.
Yeah.
People who do like talk shows by themselves.
Yeah, it's hard.
With callers.
Yeah.
And they do it overnight very frequently.
Yeah.
So they're just talking and talking and talking.
It's a very different bit of like a delivery system
in that they use a lot of white space.
They use a lot of blank space.
They're just like alright
so
this
night we're talking
when we had the studio built
PT
I tested it
I came in on my own
and tested it
with one mic
and I just did
I did 40 minutes I think
of just talking
oh I'm not surprised
that you
I'd love to hear
people listening to me regularly
won't be surprised to hear that
but it's a different type of it
it's a different type of broadcast
so somewhere on the system
there will be a couple of test files
where it's just you
slowly going insane
in the studio
just yapping on
I don't
the example you've
used there
about using
dead air and stuff
what I find a lot
of them do is
they use the producer
so they'll just
talk to the producer
so what do you
think about this
John's saying this
in my ear
blah blah blah
kind of thing
and that's how
they do it
which I find that
it's about confidence, right?
If I'm hosting now and I don't know what's coming next,
rather than just panic, I'll just say to the producer,
what have we got coming up now?
I can't remember.
And they'll tell me.
And that's a much more, I suppose, confident way of dealing with it, I guess.
Definitely, yeah.
Otherwise, you're just feeling needless.
I'm still terrible.
It's just I'm confidently shit.
Confidently shit.
Is that how you comfortably numb?
Anyway, how was your weekend, Peter?
It's been alright.
I went to Rotterdam, which is a town near the head.
Could be anywhere.
Could be anywhere.
It was nice.
It was very, very windy and I ate a lot of cheese and it was fun.
Why did you choose Rotterdam?
I've never been there.
Who did you go with?
A guy called Craig.
Do you know him?
Do you actually know him?
I've not run out of people.
Yeah, he took a bus from London to Dusseldorf.
Now that is a bus journey and a half, I would say.
What, pre the Rotterdam weekend?
Pre the Rotterdam weekend.
Why?
He did a few days around Holland and then kind of met me in Rotterdam
but why
I don't know
he just wanted to stay here
I guess
but
has he not got a job
he does have a job
but he thought
I'm going to
save a bit of cash
and go via the bus
but yeah
he had to get off
the ferry
at like
I think it was like
one in the morning
sorry
he had to get off his bus
that got on the ferry
and then he had to go
into the place
where everybody is on the ferry and people were just drinking apparently at two o'clock in the morning on Sorry, he had to get off his bus that got on the ferry and then he had to go into the place where everybody is
on the ferry
and people were
just drinking
apparently at 2 o'clock
in the morning
on the way to
Dusseldorf.
Yeah, I bet.
I can imagine.
I've done a little
boat trip, booze cruise.
Apparently modern
little ferries that
go across to
mainland Europe
they're just full of
hendoos.
People getting
absolutely tanked up.
I would challenge you to find me a situation now in the UK or Europe that isn't full of hendoos. People getting absolutely tanked up. I would challenge you
to find me a situation now
in the UK or Europe
that isn't full of hendoos.
What do you mean?
Well, it's just everywhere.
Hospital?
Every,
no, well that's the,
obviously there's hendoos in hospitals
because people get drunk
and hurt themselves.
Okay, sewer.
There is not a part,
there's not a part of society,
look,
this may tell the difference
between you and I. Boulangerie. I don't consider the sewer, in quotes, to be part of society. Look, this may tell the difference between you and I.
Boulangerie.
I don't consider the sewer, in quotes, to be part of society.
Perhaps you do.
Oh, having to go to our mutant neighbours.
But society is completely permeated everywhere.
Every nook and cranny by a hen or a stag.
The only place in Europe recently I've been to that hasn't had one,
it was Santorini.
I think that's probably because that's too expensive
it is very pricey
yeah
you price yourself out
with certain places
I've found places
that you'd expect
Stag do's to be
in like Cluj in Romania
you don't see very many
but yeah
I heartily recommend
Rotterdam
the buildings
are fucking insane
they just went
let's make a mad
old building
I played a bit
of Crazy Golf as well
I forget how much
I love Crazy Golf Luke Luke. I'm good.
Bloody love. I'm good at it. I'm terrible at it
but I bloody love it. I just love the variety.
You know me. I'm a real variety
vulture and every little
every hall has something a little
bit different for the golfing enthusiast.
Rossadam looks amazing. It looks so much more
avant-garde than I sort of expected. It's crazy and it's
very windy on certain days. Oh, it was really
windy here over the weekend, though.
Was it? Okay.
It was so windy, yeah.
I was scared that we went up this tall TV tower thing
and looked out across Rotterdam,
and it was surprisingly high and very, very windy,
and I genuinely thought I was going to be blown off
into Rotterdam, and I was just thinking...
You said blow-off.
That would be a terrible way to go.
A dreadful way to go.
It would.
No one calls them blow-offs anymore, do they?
I call them blow-offs.
Do you?
Yeah, I brought back little Tommy's Quickies blow-offs.
Pumps.
Pumps was my old...
Pumps was what I grew up with.
Pops.
Pop-pops.
Pop-offs.
Yeah.
What was it for you growing up?
Fart, probably.
Fart.
Yeah.
Farted.
Dropped your guts.
Pumps.
Yeah, it was always pumps for me.
Right, okay.
Now you've moved on to blow-offs.
Now I've moved on to blow-offs. I've extruded. It's a good radio, this, isn't it? Great radio. Pumps. Yeah, it was always pumps for me. Right, okay. Now you've moved on to blow-offs. Now I've moved on to blow-offs.
I'm extruded.
It's good radio, this, isn't it?
Great radio.
Really good.
Did you see about the guy who lost his mind
because he got a BMW for his birthday instead of a Jaguar?
Was he like an Indian guy or something?
Yeah, he wasn't like an Indian guy.
He was an Indian guy.
Was he in India?
Yeah, it was in the Indian state of Haryana in the north of India.
Right.
He was gifted a car and it wasn't quite the car he wanted,
so he just pushed it into the river.
Pushed it into a river, yeah.
Nice.
That's not how you get another one.
Not like an ice cream.
He said, apparently got stuck in a bank of tall grass
and the man said to be the son of a local landlord,
tried to rescue it.
Police are investigating the incident.
But BMW cars cost 3.5 million rupees,
which is around
42,000 pounds in India.
That seems very...
What's the most ungrateful
thing you've ever seen?
Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com
because that is right up there.
Those kind of memories
really stick in the minds.
People just not having
any idea about
the worth of anything.
I asked my parents
what the most
ungrateful thing I
did as a child was
because I saw them
over the weekend
and they said
and to be fair
I was only about
11
I think I was
actually 11
they said that
we went to
Disney World
on holiday
because my dad
got laid off
from his job
and got a lot
of money
and we ended
up and I was
tired
because I mean
I spoke to my
mum about this afterwards she was like yeah looking back on it probably we expected too much of you guys and I was tired. Because, I mean, I spoke to my mum about this afterwards.
She was like, yeah, looking back on it,
probably we expected too much of you guys,
and it was really tiring, and we did something every day,
and we shouldn't have done, and there was jet lag,
and you were only 11, and your sister was only five, or whatever.
And we walked for ages in Disney World from the car park,
because my mum and dad didn't know where they were going.
I imagine you give that sort of behaviour rather short shrift.
I was only 11.
This is rudderless.
But this was the first day we were there,
so I was probably a bit discombobulated by the timing.
Anyway, my mum said we walked down to the end of the car park
and it was the wrong way or whatever,
and I turned around and said,
well, this would have just been a massive waste of time,
so I was just tantruming.
Put me on the plane.
My dad went mental.
Absolutely mental.
Yeah, because he will be exhausted
he's trying to do
a nice thing
he's been laid off
I get it yeah
he's just been laid off
I get it yeah
I'm not defending
my behaviour
I'm just telling you
it was funny to me
because I asked him
and that's the first
that came to mind
like that
yeah
he could have gone full
I didn't even think about it
he could have gone full
falling down
you know that thing
that you
having to go at him he could have just went mental punched. Just, you know, that thing that you haven't got him.
He could have just went mental.
Punched Mickey Mouse.
Pulled his head off.
That would have been amazing.
Someone in our email inbox, again, which is hello at lukeandpete.com,
shared some great photos of the opening day of Disney World.
Right.
In like 1955.
Yes.
It's really interesting.
The characters look completely different.
In fact, they look shit
I'll get Charlie
to share the link
because it was a
photo journal
online
but yeah
so that was what
sprang to mind
what's the most
ungrateful thing
you've ever done Pete
do you think
I don't know
I'm always sort of
yeah I was probably
a bit of a shit
I can't remember
anything in particular
but I just remember
I think I spoke about it
before I remember
sort of going to
video game shops
and sort of
stamping my feet
bearing in mind
that my mum and dad
didn't say that was short of anything even though they were complete brassic I remember sort of going to video game shops and sort of stamping my feet. Yeah. Bearing in mind that my mum and dad, you know,
didn't say that I was short of anything,
even though they were complete brassic lint, mate.
Same as my parents, yeah. But we went to this computer shop
and I would just sort of have a little tantrum
every time my mum,
oh, I can have that one, I want that one.
I look back and I genuinely,
why couldn't I just be happy with the games that I had
and hadn't finished?
But I look back like that as well,
but at the same time,
I was actually really happy.
I had like a really happy childhood.
I was just ungrateful
probably because I wanted more
or because I had a friend at school
who was richer than us
or whatever, you know?
But was that when you were PD
or before you were PD?
That was as far as PD, yeah.
What age were you PD?
Before I became police department.
Yeah.
I was...
What age were you?
PD was third year, so that was... Heart level PD? 13 I became police department. I was, PD was third year
so that was
13,
14.
And you were only
PD for a year?
No,
I'm still PD
to some people
in school.
You're Donnie now,
aren't you?
No,
Donnie was what
I was trying to
get away from.
Oh,
okay.
And it's come
full circle
and bit me
right on the behind.
You're always
Donnie here.
You call me Donnie.
Some people get
like the arsehole
when people have got nicknames,
don't they?
I think I was part of the
banter bus kind of thing.
But it's a fairly common thing,
isn't it?
Well, you can't use your own nickname.
No, you can't use your own nickname.
If you're really wound up
by what somebody calls you.
No, but I think people...
So you should never introduce yourself
by your nickname.
I think that's definitely true
but when people
listen to us for example
on the Rambler
on one of our shows
at Stack
and they hear me
calling you Donny
it might turn them off a bit
because they're a bit like
I was a bit over familiar
it's a bit banter
okay
fair dues then
don't do that anymore then
I'm just going to call you
Peter from now on
you always introduce yourself
as Peter
I see you every couple of days
for crying out loud
I think that's fine
I always introduce myself
as Peter
that's correct
quick TV review Russian doll fuck me that's fine I always say that it's Peter that's correct um quick
TV review Russian
doll fuck me that's
good is it good yeah
and finish what's it
about it's it
scratches a lot of
itches that I have
about a new um
eternal sunshine of
a spotless mind it
is fucking amazing
and I don't know
why I avoided
watching it for
such such a long
time eternal sunshine
is a very very very good film.
Banger.
Banger.
I watched What We Do in the Shadows yesterday.
Oh yeah, which one's that one?
It's a New Zealand-based vampire comedy.
What We Do in the Shadows.
With Jermaine from Flight of the Conchords.
Oh, that's very good.
And Murray from Flight of the Conchords.
Yes, yes, yes.
Very cheap.
Made a lot of money.
It's the guy, is it Taiku Waititi, who now directs all the Avengers films?
He sort of, he's in it, and Iiku Waititi who now directs all the Avengers films he sort of
he's in it
and I guess he directed it as well
quite funny
it wasn't amazingly funny
but it was pretty funny
they were filming a film
just outside my house
a couple of weeks ago
or last week
and they
you forget
how much fucking work
goes into filming
you know you watch a film
and it's like
this is a piece of shit
even the most
piece of shittiest
shit shit shit shit film the amount of work that goes into filming any of that
the lighting the the the the the um the vans that if there's rain you need the big fire trucks the
vans the vans just the big lorries the big panavision vans that yeah need to be put just
for the lighting rigs and the cameras and the dollies all that stuff wow it takes a lot
it was the guy
who did Hot Fuzz
who's the director
that guy
Edgar Wright
I think he's filming
some kind of
I think it's Vampires of Soho
or something like that
my favourite Edgar Wright film
is Scott Pilgrim
I've still not watched that
you'd love that piece
I've seen the clips of them
recently
trying to be a band
like none of the
like a couple of them
had never played an instrument before
so like they were just
kind of like learning
it's really well done
but you know
I remember walking back down
Highbury Fields
near here
and they were filming
something in one of the houses
along there
and I stood there
just watching them
it's so fascinating
I reckon I probably
stood there for 20 minutes
and they didn't do a
shoot a single scene
they were just sitting there
all day
I find
I see why
actors have trailers
because it's just
so fucking boring
it's 95%
standing around
and then having to go
at the director
of photography
getting his late
gee you're going to
talk to this prick
Pete
when you're in
your own Hollywood movies
perhaps you'll be
well prepared for it
I mean
the great example of that
is the Game of Thrones
final season when they did the Game of Thrones final season
when they did the
Battle of Winterfell
but it's 40 something
or 50 something
consecutive night shoots
and like people
were getting
I think
trench foot
I think one of the actors
might have got
pneumonia maybe
right
it's bad
a couple of them
were certainly hospitalised
yeah
to get it
because they had to get it right
like I said
it was 50 odd days
of consecutive night shoots I was thinking that's just they had to get it right. Like I said, it was 50-odd days of consecutive night shoots.
I was thinking, like, that's just PR, though, isn't it?
No, because there's a behind-the-scenes documentary,
and you can see how brutal it is.
Well, they shouldn't endanger their actors,
lest they be on the business end of a lawsuit.
Why are you wasting your time doing a documentary?
It's going to make it work.
Get a three-bar fire cell.
What we need here is more cameras.
Get a three-bar fire up.
Exactly, yeah. Get that cell. Anyway, Pete, let's have a little break you know what we need here is more cameras get a three bar fire up exactly exactly yeah
anyway pete let's have a little break for some um for some adverts and after that we will do
some emails i've got a great one here about a chip shop i'm pretty chilled out about this
actually i've had five pints of guinness and my wife just left me for another man i can't mention
her name jackie oh i'm sorry about that. So actually, you know,
the fact that it's a four-hour delay on a flight doesn't bother me.
Sounds like it does bother him a little bit.
Massively.
Shout out to my mate Dan,
who's actually currently stuck in Hong Kong
due to the protests.
Yeah, they've grounded...
If I was going to say about the protesters,
that is a smart move.
Yeah.
Because obviously you're disrupting
a huge financial centre
and a lot of
tourism as well
wasn't a smart move
for my mate Dan
to be there
no
what about this
from James Clark
hello at
lukeandpeachshow.com
is the address
he's emailed into
he says
hi both
mainly Luke
firstly a big fan
of the show
been an avid
listener to the
Ramble for 8 years
and now very much
enjoy many of the
sister Stakhanov shows
especially this one Wrestle Me and The Offensive you should listen to all of them if you're I've been an avid listener to the Rambo for eight years and now very much enjoy many of the Sister Stakhanov shows,
especially this one, Wrestle Me, and The Offensive.
You should listen to all of them if you're listening to this because you will enjoy them.
We're more of The Offensive than The Offensive sometimes, I would say.
We are.
The Offensive is back for a new season, by the way.
I'm excited.
It's had a really, really good opening,
first episode of the new season.
Everyone's loving it.
You should check it out because Ashwood City,
the fictional team
featured within are now in europe so it's a whole load of um logistical things for the production
staff to worry about um james says i haven't got anything too exciting to offer the show at this
time but as i've just moved to streatham uh which is a district of south london i wonder if luke
could recommend a good fish and chip shop as i've been really struggling and he's mentioned a few
times he lives in the area and I get the impression Luke
is a man who knows his way around a chippy.
That's all for now and any help would be appreciated.
And that's James Clark who
signs off his email as
James Clark, basement
waterproofer, London.
Okay, right.
He knows there's some pump.
If you're a basement waterproofer,
don't be emailing in saying you've got nothing interesting to share. There must be some stories. You you're a basement waterproofer, don't be manning in sand.
You've got nothing interesting to show.
There must be some stories.
You must have found some soggy shit downstairs.
100%.
Yeah.
How do you even go about that?
You just put plastic down.
Plastic layer, I'd say.
I think if we were,
say you and I were on an episode of The Apprentice
and we had to waterproof a basement,
I think that's how we would start, isn't it?
Yeah.
Plastic.
Plastic, yeah.
Pin it.
Tar. Tar. Alan Sugar would be like, what did you spend your damn budget on? I think that's how we would start isn't it yeah plastic a load of plastic yeah pin it tar
Alan Sugar would be like
what did you spend
your damn budget on
a massive tar panel
I thought that
it's a load of old tut
when I was in
when I was in tut
that's
that is
the proper East London word
that
do you ever use tup
we used to use tup
when we were kids
as well
what's that
I don't know what it is
that's just rubbish
it's a load of old tup it's a load of tup tup when we were kids as well what's that I don't know what it is that's just rubbish a load of old tup
it's a load of tup
tup
anyway
the
I was in
Rotterdam
as mentioned earlier on
I brought
a travel iron with me
I never go anywhere
without a travel iron
so I can enjoy some
wrinkle free clothes
and
I brought it
and I forgot
it was a Japanese
travel iron.
I bought it out there that works in Taiwan and all those places.
But over here, obviously, we've got almost double the voltage.
So I turned it on, and it instantly sparked,
and the actual metal warped immediately.
It went like that.
It's a surge.
Could have really hurt Craig, the Scotsman.
Could have hurt Craig.
Could have got him on a spodden.
Also, in the US, it's the same the voltage there is
I think 110 or something
get a step down
that's why the head risers are shit
we had to spend
when my wife moved to the UK
we had to spend a lot of money
on these transformer things
they're really bulky
they've not really got any smaller
they're massive mate
I was so surprised
my mate bought a
I think a Game Boy Advance
back in the day
and the rapper subtit Subtitler,
ATP, borrowed it off him.
Oh, yeah.
And he never gave it back.
Subtitler, if you're listening,
you got one, mate.
Step down.
Give it back.
I mean, Subtitler is not
a very commercially successful artist,
so perhaps it needs a little help
he can get.
James, to answer your question
about fish and chip shops in Streatham,
I've got some good news for you
because, in my view,
and I haven't been to the fish and chip shop
for a while
so if it's gone downhill
and off a cliff
in the last few months
I apologise
but Kennedy's
in Streatham Hill
you've mentioned
Kennedy's before
it's directly opposite
Streatham Hill Station
it's award winning
it's brilliant
I would never go
anywhere else
for my fish and chips
ever
you went to Bredo's
this week didn't you
I went to Bredo's
last week for
Mimi's birthday I hate to turn that into I went to Bredo's last week for Mimi's birthday.
I hate to
turn that into
set meals part
two,
but it's very
much.
You love it.
I was a little
bit disappointed.
Really?
Yeah.
I prefer the one
in Clerkenwell.
They've reduced
the portions.
Yeah,
they have.
They have.
You used to get
three and now
you only get
two.
That's annoying.
It's a taco
place if you're
listening.
You will probably
enjoy it if you
like Mexican
food.
So that is an
email from
James Clark.
Kennedy's in Streatham Hill. Please
send us another email about your basement
waterproofing exploits. Yes.
Have you ever eaten fish and chips in a
soggy basement? Do you know your
way around a sump pump? I'm obsessed
with them. The things that get the water out of the walls.
Have you ever encountered a
fatberg? In a
cellar?
Listen, if it's a cellar beneath a fish and chip shop
or a Chinese restaurant.
Good point.
How was your celebratory Chinese meal last night?
Well, Newcastle and Winsor didn't have one.
What did I have instead?
I had a roast.
Oi, oi.
Oh, did you?
Lovely.
Good man.
What was the meat?
Chicken.
Nice.
Textbook.
Nice.
Textbook.
Neil.
Redacted.
He just asked me to not use the second name,
so that's going to get a bleeping. Could you write down the edit mark for me, Luke? Yes, I will. No worries. Neil. Redacted. He just asked me to not use the second name, so that's going to get a bleeping.
Could you write down the edit mark for me, Luke?
Yes, I will.
No worries.
Neil.
Before we begin, please don't use my full name.
Dear Luke and Pete, a long time no email,
but still enjoying the steady flow of a podcast of Fluvia
provided by two of you during a summer break
with the in-laws on the shores of Lake Winnipesaukee.
Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire.
Two big thumbs up
for the remarks
you made about
armchair aeronautics
experts online
and newspapers
passing inaccurate
comments about
aviation incidents
as a man who knows
very little about
a lot of things
and a fuck all
about most
when I read
YouTube comments
and newspaper reports
about the things
I couldn't understand
it makes me realise
that most of what's
published in the
newspapers online
about things I don't
understand is probably
bollocks too
it's generally accepted that accidents are the cumulative result
of a chain of failures rarely having a single cause.
For example, a design issue compounded by maintenance problems
that was missed by a tired or overloaded crew
on a day when the weather was particularly bad.
In theory, there are numerous safety systems in place
to trap these errors and break the chain before an incident takes place,
such as reliable design, robust maintenance procedures
and a well-trained flight and cabin
crew who have been trained to apply the correct
procedures. That explanation is too
technical for pilot simple minds, so we
talk about the Swiss cheese model.
Oh! Are you allergic?
Carry on, this is interesting.
Each layer of defence, such as design,
maintenance, air traffic
control and flight crew is like a slice of Swiss cheese.
It's a barrier of sorts, but inevitably it has holes in it.
In theory, if a problem isn't caught by one layer of defence, i.e. it gets through the hole in the first slice of cheese, it should be stopped by the next.
And even if it gets through a hole in that second slice, the third should stop it and so on.
The problem is that occasionally the holes in the cheese line up and the problem can pass through all layers
of defence without
being stopped.
That's when it becomes
a bad day at the office.
Take a look at the
example of the Air
France crash in 2009.
The effect of the
cockpit design, the
weather, the time of
day, the faulty
information provided
by the instruments and
the crew's actions may
not have been serious
enough in isolation to
cause the crash but the
cumulative effect of all
of them were.
As a reason of this,
it's quite common to hear pilots
talking about the holes in the cheese are starting to line up.
That's not something you want to hear over the intercom.
A series of small individual issues seeming to be building
into an increased risk, and it's a signal that we should stop,
focus on what our current situation is,
and somehow break that chain of accumulating risk factors.
That was experienced very much by me and you earlier on
when I threw the computer mouse at a wall.
Yeah.
We were having
our own Swiss cheese problems.
You were having
huge problems
mostly with your
short fuse.
Right.
And we just
got out of the way.
Yeah.
Well, did it fix
the problem or didn't it?
Do we have a smash mouse
or don't we?
We do have a smash mouse
now, yeah.
Anyway, I'm borrowing my
walk on the sun.
Anyway.
Why would you mention that one
out of all of the...
All Star is obviously
their biggest song.
It's the only one I know, isn't it?
No, you said
Walking on the Sun.
Might as well be
Walking on the Sun.
Yeah, and also
Hey Now, you're an All Star.
Oh, is that them as well?
Yeah.
It's the first one
that came to mind, sorry.
Anyway, I'm even
borrowing myself now
so I'll leave it there.
This was supposed to be
an email telling the story
of how I fooled the medical world and my mum
to get out of my previous job
in a cardboard box factory.
So it's fair to say
I've gotten off a bit...
I've gone a bit off track,
like me then.
That would probably have made
for a better tale,
but I'm damn enough
I'm going to delete this lot
and start from scratch.
One for another day.
Thank you.
Happy trails, Pilot Neil.
Oh, it's Pilot Neil?
It's Pilot Neil.
So he's emailed in
about something completely different to what he wanted to email in about,
but still...
Got excited about the cheese, the Swiss cheese lining up.
In the wheelhouse of his own pilot exploits.
Pilot Neil, of course, you'd be pleased to know, my friend, that your speed tape you
sent in...
Still there.
Got my hand on it earlier.
Yeah, it's actually being used to hold down a Bluetooth box in the studio at the moment.
Actually, that's a piece of old tech we don't
need anymore, so maybe I can throw that out the wall.
Yeah, can't it? If you want to donate any of your
old tech... Good metaphor for the Luke and Pete show.
Great to hear from Pilot Neil
anyway. Love to have you along, Neil. Absolutely.
What about this one from
James, who says, hi guys, love the
show, but now let's get to the good stuff.
Following the recent news about Chernobyl Volca
making its way to the world,
it's got me thinking about whether you can actually live there again or not.
I believe it's been long enough since the radiation has faded,
which will allow people to come back to the area.
Want your thoughts if this is a government conspiracy
and that people would be safe to move back there
or is it actually pretty dangerous?
I feel the government are worried about super-powered humans
to come from this if they were to go back there.
I don't understand why it would be a conspiracy.
Presumably that would be a terrible look to say that people can go back there if they can't.
You can visit there now, can't you, for sure.
I'm pretty sure I've heard of people going back there, visiting there for holidays and stuff.
Just bring a Geiger counter, mate.
Everyone's got one of them on their Swiss army knife, surely.
Would you go to visit Chernobyl, Pete?
It's called Pripyat, isn't it, the town?
Yeah, would I visit?
I don't know.
It's a bit gauche, isn't it?
I'd probably pop through.
I remember back in the late 90s,
there was a woman who went through on a motorbike
and took some really interesting pictures.
But now I think it's starting to kind of be reclaimed by people,
if not tourists, just wandering around going look at this
we started off talking
about Chernobyl
on this show
way before that
Chernobyl TV show
came about
because we were talking
about the elephant's foot
weren't we
oh yes
absolutely
I want to eat it
horrific
I want to eat it
it's worth reminding people
that the Chernobyl
elephant's foot
was the
leftover
mass of corium
I think it's corium
after the Chernobyl disaster.
It's just got a big cover on it now,
I think.
But yes,
I think it will give you
a lethal dose of radiation
in under five minutes.
Right, okay.
I think if you stand near it,
very, very strange.
Don't go near the
elephant's foot
it's very strange
that kind of thing
exists on the planet
I think
it might be the most
radioactive
place in the universe
yeah
did you see that
I don't know how people
would know that
did you see that
gigantic explosion
in Russia last week
last week
tell me more about that
I think it was near
Finland
I can't remember
anyway there was a big
explosion on a
either a base or on a submarine.
It just exploded.
All the munitions.
And there was an increase of radiation detected in a local town.
And everyone was told to get inside.
Right.
Because the radiation was a bit too high.
But the actual explosion itself, the way that it kind of goes out,
I don't know,
it was a security camera or something filming it,
but it just pushes the clouds away.
It's that massive.
The clouds actually move away
because of the heat and the force.
Wow, it was something incredible.
Two people died.
No, five people died apparently.
Five people died in the end, right.
Up to five now.
Yeah, it looked epic.
I'll have to look into that for next time.
Let's get out of here, Peter.
And we'll be back on Thursday, of course. We need to do some stuff. I'll have to look into that for next time. Let's get out of here, Peter. And we'll be back on Thursday,
of course.
We need to do some stuff.
I need people to email in
about their UFO experiences.
Yes, okay, right.
I haven't managed a chance
to get to those emails yet,
but if you are thinking
about emailing in
about your UFO experiences
or even just your opinions
on that,
as requested last week,
send them in to
hello at lukeandpete show dot com.
You can, of course,
email on any subject you want
and we'd be very,
very happy to hear from you. But yeah, we'll see you on Thursday. Have a good week.com. You can of course email on any subject you want and we'd be very, very happy to hear from you.
Um,
but yeah,
we'll see you on Thursday.
Have a good week.
Bye. This has been a Stakhanov production.
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