The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 194: Is that a real man?

Episode Date: August 15, 2019

If you're have a tough old week at work, don't worry, you're nearly there now. It's Thursday, and Luke and Pete have got your back for another half an hour or so. Kick back and relax listening to tale...s of a dolphin playing keepie-ups with a jellyfish, the price Pete would want for his different body parts, and the week our two eponymous heroes spent in bed together in Johannesburg back in 2010.And if that isn't enough to whet your whistle, we also hear of a man currently working inside the Department for Exiting the European Union. Could it be time for another episode of Wicked Whispers? Stay tuned to find out...Our email address, should you need it to lift the lid on a scandal: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh baby we're back it's the Luke and Pete show I'm Pete Donaldson and I'm with Luke Hello You alright mate? How come I don't get a second though? Happy Thursday mate Cheers brother Happy Thursday Cheers my brother
Starting point is 00:00:20 How have you been mate? Not bad what's been going on? Um just uh I'm trying to avoid mocking a criminal's hair. Oh, I saw something about that, yeah. Gwent police warn people mocking a wanted man's hair. Police in South Wales have warned people who've mocked the hairstyle of a wanted drug dealer that they could find themselves facing prosecution. A mugshot of the Newport-based drug dealer
Starting point is 00:00:44 was published by police on Facebook after he breached his licence conditions it prompted hundreds of jokes puns and memes among the
Starting point is 00:00:52 nearly 90,000 comments left on the Gwent police Facebook post police said offensive comments could leave people facing action
Starting point is 00:01:00 yeah I'm not sure that necessarily needs to happen well seen his hair is that mockable yeah I think so I think so it's a bit cruel Facing action. Yeah, I'm not sure that necessarily needs to happen. Well, have you seen his hair? Oh, yeah, he looks... Is that mockable?
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah, I think so. I think so. It's a bit cruel, I suppose. It's a bit crusty. The clown is what it is. I speak a lot about your hair, don't I? Yeah. Got the old Richard Spence.
Starting point is 00:01:15 At the moment, it's more of a Jack Grealish, isn't it? It's all going in the book. All going in the book. Did no use a hair dryer today. Do you use a hair dryer to dry your hair? No. I don't do anything. Is that going to be too volume?
Starting point is 00:01:24 It just comes out like that yeah wow I just get out of the shower that curly dry it with a bit of a towel maybe push a brush through it and that's it
Starting point is 00:01:31 I remember when we were in Johannesburg for the football ramble trip to the world cup in which we saw no world cup games live for some reason got pissed though
Starting point is 00:01:40 got pissed oh didn't we just didn't we just underneath the bed that we were both sleeping in together. We had to share a bed because we had no money at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:49 We still don't. We probably have. No, we'd probably do it out of choice now, wouldn't we? Just to keep the home fires burning. Yeah. I found like a little, it was like a little,
Starting point is 00:01:58 like a curling tong, I suppose you'd call it. It was a tiny little hair dryer that was in a tube and you'd put it through your hair and it would make your hair like really voluminous voluminous
Starting point is 00:02:07 and curly and I used that for a good six months afterwards and nobody sort of said Peter stop this you look fucking ridiculous I don't even think I noticed
Starting point is 00:02:16 no it was it was at a time where I was actually photographed by De Montfort University oh I love that photo of you it's one of my photos of you
Starting point is 00:02:24 it went on bus shelters and everything, didn't it? Yeah, it did go on bus shelters. In my line of trade, image is everything or something. Yeah. And then you were dressed like an absolute pervert. In my business, presentation is everything. And I'm wearing an old, I'm wearing like sort of kinky boots, black skinny leathers, skinny leathers?
Starting point is 00:02:39 Skinny jeans. Jeans, yeah. And a long shirt. And my hair is ridiculous. You can't zoom in with your fingers, Pete. That's a laptop. I could have a touch-based laptop. Yeah, I remember us sharing a bed for
Starting point is 00:02:51 seven nights in a row. Is that how we ever got away with that, really? What do you mean? Our routines are quite different. You're very, um, you made it very clear that you went on for quite some time saying, I will need my own space, I will need my own space I will need my own
Starting point is 00:03:06 time and then for some reason you agreed to sleep with me. Yeah. Foolish. I remember walking in on you in the
Starting point is 00:03:11 bath as well at one point. Alright okay. I took a photo. That's alright. Yeah I took a photo. One for the folder. We've actually that
Starting point is 00:03:17 was nine years ago now we're in South Africa. Yeah a long time ago now. Good times. Good times. What else have you
Starting point is 00:03:23 been up to this week? Much going on? Recovered from your weekend yet? Listen, I've not been mocking the Gwent-based drug dealer. Nor should you be. That's the main thing. I know you definitely got drunk at the weekend
Starting point is 00:03:32 because you sent quite a few ill-advised WhatsApps and then tried to style it out saying, I'm not drunk, I'm in bed. I was in bed. That was the Friday. You can still be drunk in bed. You found this weirdly objectionable that I said that dogs are angels.
Starting point is 00:03:46 No. I said that dogs are probably angels. Yeah. And you said, oh, I don't drink, have we? I'd say that
Starting point is 00:03:53 if I was sober, mate. Dogs are angels. If God exists, dogs are angels. Let's put it to bed now. Had you had a drink or not? I'd had a few. But I'd stopped at midnight,
Starting point is 00:04:02 which is very early for me. I saw an amazing, to change the for me. I saw an amazing, to change the subject completely, I saw an amazing bit of footage this week of a dolphin juggling with a jellyfish. You seen it? No. What, it was throwing?
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's absolutely insane. It was, bless you. It was chucking around a jellyfish. I'll show you. Look, check it out. Was it singing jelly on a foot? See that?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Oh yeah. Flicking it up in the air. It's amazing, isn't it? That's cruel. Dolphins are little shits, aren't they? In a harbour in Denmark. Yeah. I don't really know if the jellyfish has got any capacity
Starting point is 00:04:33 to feel any kind of emotion or anything anyway, so... People say we should eat them. They're very watery, but we should eat them, apparently. What do they benefit? What's the benefit? Well, there's just too much of them. There's too many of them. They're actually a bit of a blight on the sea
Starting point is 00:04:45 in certain parts of the world. There's too many jellyfish. We should, by right, be eating jellyfish. I think jellyfish salad is the thing, maybe with noodles. I mean, is this coming from the Japanese? I think it's Koreans. I think the Koreans are saying they should do it.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Peter, you're a fan of the environment, aren't you? Yeah, I'm alright. You think it's important. I take a lot from it. Without putting anything back. Yeah. How do you rate the importance of the environment to your life out of 10 um i live right in the center of town so i don't see a lot of it no but i appreciate the carbon dioxide processing power it has you're also a fan of the brazilian president jair bolsonaro aren't you yeah a big fan i like what he says about minorities. So when these two things come together
Starting point is 00:05:25 and in the face of huge deforestation that he has, he said to help protect the environment what people should do. What? Have a little guess
Starting point is 00:05:36 what he said. Wear fewer clothes? I don't know. He said only have a shit every other day. Oh, well, I'm right up that street,
Starting point is 00:05:45 aren't I? People should only shit every other day. Oh, well, I'm right up that street, then, aren't I? People should only poo every other day, and that will stop the... Has he gone straight for the toilet roll idea? That will stop a football pitch sized of Amazonian rainforest being destroyed every minute, which apparently is the current statistic, and save the environment. And you'd be right in favour,
Starting point is 00:06:04 because you've got the haircut, you've got the right-wing haircut, and you've also, you can't go for a poo. I think he's even more right-wing than most alt-righters, I'd say. He's an interesting chap. Are you saying that Jair Bolsonaro
Starting point is 00:06:16 is a bit too liberal for your taste? No, I said he's a bit too right-wing. I think he's gone so far around, he's back at the left side again. That's how it works. But yeah, he's an interesting far around, he's back at the left side again. That's how it works. But yeah, he's an interesting chap, isn't he? I fear that the election of Donald Trump may have bolstered the... Bolsonaro.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Bolstered the Bolsonaros of this world, so to speak. Yeah, I think you're probably right. To be those kind of leader strongmen kind of characters. I think you're probably right, Peter, as well. Absolutely. I just think that was right, Peter, as well. Absolutely. I just think that was quite an interesting thing to say. But on the dolphin juggling thing, is that going to be another thing that people use
Starting point is 00:06:52 as an example of how intelligent dolphins are? What do you mean? Because everyone goes crazy about how intelligent they are. It's a bit annoying to me, really. I think they're just... Isn't he not just trying to break through the surface of the water and it just happens to be a jellyfish? He does it about 16 times. I think he's just, is he not just trying to break through the surface of the water and it just happens to be a jellyfish? Well, he does it about 16 times in a row.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So I think he's doing it generally. Like Pele. The Pele of the... Yeah, that's his name. The name is Pele. I haven't been doing much this week, really. I've been kind of busy. Kind of lots of bits and pieces going on.
Starting point is 00:07:21 We had a few emails in about your weekend in Rotterdam. Have you got anything further to add sadly what didn't happen which I always hope happens when you're away
Starting point is 00:07:29 for a weekend somewhere in some unsalubrious part of town Rotterdam behaving hardly Amsterdam
Starting point is 00:07:36 is it behaving the way that you but that's the kind of thing that people who went to Rotterdam would say
Starting point is 00:07:39 if I go to Rotterdam I can just say yeah but it's not Amsterdam exactly no one emailed saying they actually saw you or anything like that, which is very sad.
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's a shame, really. But yeah, I haven't seen much about what we've been doing. There was a Ramble fan who said hello on the street. And as I was sort of saying hello and shaking his hand, who's the bloke out of Fantastic... Is it Fantastic Creatures? Whatever that Harry Potter thing was he was also he also played Stephen Hawking
Starting point is 00:08:09 in a thing oh it's Eddie Redmayne Eddie Redmayne he looked absolutely amazing as a woman in The Other Girl that's right yeah
Starting point is 00:08:15 Eddie Redmayne was coming towards us both and I was thinking this guy has mugged himself right off here by wanting to get a picture and say
Starting point is 00:08:22 hello oh so you got spotted by a rambler and Eddie Redmayne was basically next to ramble listener. And Eddie Redmayne was basically next to us. In the face of Eddie Redmayne. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Eddie Redmayne must have been like, I've got to get me a podcast. I've got to get me into the podcast game. Does he speak like that? Yeah, big time. He speaks any way you want. I'm in Soho.
Starting point is 00:08:39 He's a good actor. He speaks any way you want. He's a really good actor. Very weird. And is that the most famous person you've seen down your street recently? I saw Mr. Robot a little while ago.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I didn't know. Oh, you always talk about him though. Yeah, I'm trying to think. You do see people on my street quite a lot. Have you ever had like a really awkward experience either working or out in the street with a bit of celebrity? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Like as in? Wasn't you done something wrong or you messed something up or? In the street. No, because I saw Pete Doherty in the street once. Yes. Was he drinking a big milkshake
Starting point is 00:09:08 and eating a massive breakfast? No, it was about... It was when he was still on the heroin. Right. It was about 6.30 in the morning. I had a breakfast meeting and I was working at Capital at the time. I was in there really early.
Starting point is 00:09:18 No, it wasn't a breakfast meeting. I was working on the breakfast show at that point. Right. At Capital on sponsorship promotions and stuff. And it was about 2004 5 must have been 5
Starting point is 00:09:28 probably and I was kind of I liked the Liberties at the time and I was into it and there was no one around and he's really tall and obviously
Starting point is 00:09:36 very identifiable oh yeah you forget he's quite tall he's really tall and I went over there and shook his hand and said alright B
Starting point is 00:09:42 how you doing he didn't know what was going on and I sort of I didn't want to at that point in doing? He didn't know what was going on. And I just thought it'd be, I didn't want to, at that point in my life, I didn't want to not sort of say hello. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I shook his hand and looked at my hand and his hands were so dirty. It was like they'd been in the, in the charcoal. And then my hands were dirty just from touching his hands. Oh, lovely. It wasn't great. It was not great.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I got a lot of time for that. He was honestly so dirty. What was he doing in Leicester square then? No, it wasn't. It was, it was, it was great. It was not great. I got a lot of time for that. He was honestly so dirty. What was he doing in Leicester Square then? No, it wasn't. It was not far from where you live. It was on one of those roads in Soho. I see. I was walking through Soho to go to work.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah, so... But that's not particularly awkward. Drug abuse looks and sounds exhausting, Luke. Yes. Absolutely exhausting. I completely agree. But you've never had an awkward moment when you've been interviewing someone, have you?
Starting point is 00:10:23 No, I've always... I'd brought up Kurt Cobain to Billy Corgan before and what did he say he just he sort of blanked me
Starting point is 00:10:32 because I went he was talking about radio shows and he's going no I used to make little tapes of me on the radio like pretending I was
Starting point is 00:10:41 on the radio little tapes of me and stuff and I was like oh they just found Kurt Cobain's footage of like old tapes of him doing that like cutting up tapes of me and stuff and I was like oh they just found Cacobin's footage of like old tapes
Starting point is 00:10:46 of him doing that like cutting up bits of audio and stuff and he went oh did he anyway were they friends or whatever
Starting point is 00:10:52 I think they were mortal oh because of Courtney Love yeah okay right because that caper right so yeah
Starting point is 00:10:59 I didn't realise that Billy O'Coggan had written or co-written certainly Malibu and the other song off the Hall album that everyone remembers quite fondly, Celebrity Skin. Oh, did he really?
Starting point is 00:11:10 I didn't know that. I didn't realise he'd co-written it or written it. I didn't know that either. Amazing. I heard stories of him being absolutely insane on Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness, like staying there like 48 hours straight recording like a hundred different guitar parts for each song and stuff. And he'd just, people would be playing the bass and he'd just grab the
Starting point is 00:11:25 bass and go now play it like this yeah but I think a lot of I think the effort pays off I also heard a
Starting point is 00:11:32 story that Julian Casablanca's of The Strokes can't really play any instruments but sing all the parts to all the band members and
Starting point is 00:11:42 get them to play what he was singing and he kind of directed and constructed the whole album like that. Oh, that's clever. I don't know if that's true or not.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I have no idea if that's true or not. People get upset all sorts of stuff, don't they? Have you seen that Netflix documentary The Defiant Ones? No.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Almost guarantee I haven't. Jimmy Iovine's interesting. Right. He's the producer for Springsteen and that kind of stuff. He's the business partner of Dr. Dre now.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Okay, right. And they created beats together. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. Let's have a break because I've got a really, really fucking good email. Don't say that often.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I promise you, stick around because the one after the email after the break is going to be great and we're going to try and make a thing of it. So stick around.
Starting point is 00:12:17 All right, bang. Huh? How the fuck is it called Easy Jet then? If you want to make a point... Shut up, man. Move from here, son. All right, you're about to be flying.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Forget it. I wasn't flying in the first place. He was so angry. I love that. It always reminds me of that meal that I had with my dad. I told you about it. My dad's food just didn't turn up.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Right. And we walked out and she went, okay, well, I won't charge you for your meal. My dad went, I haven't had a f***ing meal. Anyway, so someone's got in touch and I'm only going to use their initial A. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I don't want to blow their cover. Okie dokie, baby. Unlike you, Donny. Right. So A is pleased it's me reading the email out and not you. He says, so he starts off talking about something a little bit different, but you'll like this. Speaking of medical never events,
Starting point is 00:13:00 and the guy who was circumcised in episode 192, my mother was due to have her appendix out. During the pre-op assessment, her surgeon came in in picked up her chart at the end of the bed and promptly said so mrs jones has the doctor been through the after effects of a hysterectomy and my mother immediately panicked and said no no i'm here for an appendectomy thank god my mom was a woman of science and knew what a hysterectomy is for those listeners who aren't okay with it hysterectomies but they removed the womb. So it could have been a huge deal. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So they luckily caught out there. Right. And he said, also in the episode, Pete said, I'd need more than £20,000 for my foreskin,
Starting point is 00:13:34 which opens the question of how much would Pete want for his foreskin? Answer now, please. What? I turned down £20,000? Yeah, that's what he said. I can't remember what he said.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I mean, yeah, £20,000. £21,000? £30,000. £30,000? Yeah, that's what he said. I can't remember what he said. I mean, yeah, 20 grand. 21 grand? 30. 30 grand. Anyone wants it? There you go.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Put your money where my penis is. And what would you charge for other body parts, Pete? Like your ear. What would you lose for £20,000? Oh, ear. Now that would be difficult, that one, wouldn't it? There was a guy I used to work with. I do wear spectacles, so they are very important to me.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You could probably get another one built with the money. What's the point? But actually, you've got to remove for 20 grand, and it costs 20 grand exactly to get a prosthetic one for. But there was a guy who claimed that at Safeway where I used to work, but he never showed me, but he claimed that he'd had his little toe cut off and re-stitched back on for like 20 grand or something at university.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Oh, what, they removed it and then put it back on? Yeah, and that something at university oh what they removed it and then put it back on yeah and that's why he walked a bit funny I don't know it's true or not but people used to talk there was always talk
Starting point is 00:14:32 of going and doing medical stuff well like selling yeah I mean that's not medical stuff that's just you know you've got a bloke with a knife
Starting point is 00:14:38 and you just get reattached disgusting no but it was a medical experiment I think to see how easy it was to do it this is back in the 90s why would you not do that on someone who oh that doesn't make any sense Disgusting. No, but it was a medical experiment, I think, to see how easy it was to do it. This is back in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Why would you not do that on someone who... Oh, that doesn't make any sense. Mind you, he is working the safe way, so... What's wrong with working the safe way? Well, it doesn't exist now, so... It's true, actually. It's Morrison. I know that apparently Axl Rose, Slash, and Izzy Stradlin signed up to do a medical experiment of the effects of non-stop smoking
Starting point is 00:15:04 to finance the band for a bit. I mean, they do it anywhere. Slash in particular. I don't imagine that was much of a change for Slash. Apparently, literally, I think it's in Slash's autobiography, which is an amazing read. Apparently, they just constantly smoke
Starting point is 00:15:19 until they couldn't do it anymore. Good Lord. Yeah. What a terrible day that would be. They're also alive. Yeah. Anyway. I like guitarists who put their cigarettes day that would be. They're also alive. Yeah. Anyway. I like guitarists
Starting point is 00:15:26 who put their cigarettes on a little guitar, on the guitar string. Nice. So that's for that part of the email. I know you're probably listening thinking,
Starting point is 00:15:34 well, what's so special about that? Nothing. But this is, I think, interesting. P.S. If needed, I can be Luke and Pete
Starting point is 00:15:43 Show's Brexit correspondent as I currently work inside the department for leaving the EU. Oh, nice. P.S. If needed, I can be Luke and Pete Show's Brexit correspondent as I currently work inside the department for leaving the EU. Oh, nice. Okay. Yeah. Listen, A, send us the good stuff. Send us the stuff from the front line, unfiltered. You can be our Julian Assange there. Yeah, you can be our Julian Assange.
Starting point is 00:16:00 We will not relay the information with any political spin on it whatsoever. I might. I will not do it. Tell any political spin on it whatsoever I might I will not do it tell us how it's going exactly what's going on and people who listen to this show can get under the fingernails
Starting point is 00:16:11 behind the scenes we'll never blow your cover send us the information to hello at lukeandpeacher.com or to my email address if you want me to read it and we'll keep people
Starting point is 00:16:21 abreast of it how exciting is that Pete? yeah my mate works in a part of, I think it's like renewable energy inside this little service. And, oh dear, they are very much preparing for a no-deal Brexit.
Starting point is 00:16:34 As you'd imagine. They have to be, right? Yeah, they have to be. And also they're just all of like, everything's going to be fine. The talking points of Mr Boris Johnson, such as he is, it's just been, that's policy
Starting point is 00:16:45 now. That's whatever comes out of that man's mouth is now policy. What you need to do is understand two things. Brexit means Brexit. And two, you need to be optimistic to make this work. Get him out. Get him out. You need to be optimistic. Get rid of the mole. Not your balls. Not your foreskin.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Peter, you need to be more optimistic. I know, it's Project Fear isn't it it is Project Fear Project Fear whatever happened to Project Fear yeah exactly can we have Project Fear 2 please
Starting point is 00:17:11 I was quite enjoying it this time it's personal yeah exactly what email have you got there Peter I got from Liam hello Liam I mean I half read this one it's probably going to be alright though
Starting point is 00:17:20 oh for goodness sake as a big fan of all your podcasts I've often been disappointed that it's like your leg? How tall are you? I'm just having a little stretch out, mate. Good Lord. Just having a little stretchy.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I've often been disappointed that as a boring, miserable man in his late 20s, I've never had any interesting or grim stories to tell. This changed, however, after a conversation I had with my dad on the way to football one day. As an electrician, dad has many friends who have a trade, and thus the conversations he has on a daily basis are very different to the ones i experienced in my working life as a teacher on this particular occasion he was telling me about his friend who was simply known as cd shane um cd shane yeah i don't feel like i need to introduce you to cd cd shane because his name speaks for itself uh one particularly disturbing
Starting point is 00:17:59 cd story uh yeah involved his regular staying over at hotels where no doubt several questionable acts took place. It was during an everyday conversation as my dad was making his morning brew that Shane approached him and began to ask about whether dad had made a cup of tea in his hotel room that morning. This line of questioning heightened my dad's curiosity as to where Shane was going with his story and begrudgingly asked Shane
Starting point is 00:18:20 as to why he was so interested. Shane and his answer would prove to be a very important life lesson and one which I feel is my duty to let your good listeners know. It turns out that members of Shane's community, in inverted commas, including Shane himself, upon leaving and checking out of a hotel room, would ceremoniously ejaculate into the kettle as a parting gift to the next guest.
Starting point is 00:18:40 One, that is horrendous. Great performance, though. Unacceptable. Great performance. Two, have we not heard of people doing this before on this show? Poopies. I think we'd heard of poopies being popped. There was a kettle involved.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, in the hotel kettle. Is this like a subculture? It seems to be a thing, yeah. A kettle-obsessed subculture. Yeah, it just, you know... Because I have made many a cup of tea in a hotel kettle, and now I wish I hadn't. A lot of...
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's like rice cookers in a lot of Airbnbs in the Far East. I mean, you could get a good, get a bit of everything in there, couldn't you? What's a rice cooker? What do you mean? It's like a big pan,
Starting point is 00:19:10 but it's electric. It's like a big kettle that's like all self-contained and you can just cook rice in it. Right. I bought one once when I was, when I went congee wild.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Voltage problem again? No, bought it here. Yeah, $12. Pretty cheap. Yeah, pretty cheap.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I bought a brilliant money box for my niece for Christmas. A little pig in a nappy? No, it's a, a it here. Yeah, $12. Pretty cheap. Yeah, pretty cheap. I bought a brilliant money box for my niece for Christmas. A little pig in a nappy? No, it's a... A ceramic pig? You put the coin on top of the box and the box opens and a little cat's paw
Starting point is 00:19:33 comes out and pulls it in. That's brilliant. There's a nice spirited away. Is it spirited away with the spooky ghost thing? I haven't seen it. I don't watch a lot of anime, but like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:40 a similar sort of thing. There's many deviations. I like it a lot, though. I think it started off as a skeleton skeleton would come and grab your money right okay why would people be doing that
Starting point is 00:19:50 into kettles though I don't really get it well I would I mean you couldn't you could do that with the cat put a little bit in front and the cat and just grab it gone that's mine that's
Starting point is 00:19:58 my donation that is dirty proper sperm bank we don't endorse that kind of behavior here no don't do it guys here's an email from Fred who says hi guys your chat about the talking clock man made me remember how gullible i was as a child my brother convinced me that the talking clock man was a real man
Starting point is 00:20:15 who had to sit in the room every day of the year telling people the times he convinced me he was also a man who never grew tired so never sleep, and spent the whole time sitting on the toilet. I believed this so much that I rang him to ask if he does sit on the toilet, but he never answered my questions because he was too busy telling me the time. But after I hung up, he rang me straight back. Well, he didn't actually ring me back,
Starting point is 00:20:38 but it was my brother, very committed to the joke, and we had a very nice conversation about his little room with only a toilet for a seat. I believed all of this for quite a long time. So with that said, do any other listeners have any stories of being extremely gullible when growing up? All the best, Fred. That's adorable. That is adorable.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Do you have anything like that, Pete? I was sort of growing up, I remember seeing on, it was like some kind of Pebble Mill kind of thing, that this juggler came on and did some juggling and said, and in the voiceover it said that he's done over 13,000, he was doing, like, it was something like 13,000 or 4,000
Starting point is 00:21:09 performances of his juggling because he was quite an, he was an older guy and I thought that they meant that he was like 4,000 years old
Starting point is 00:21:19 and so for ages I thought that people could legitimately be 4,000 years old because this juggler had came on. It's something I'd misheard on Pebble Mill all those years ago. Did you ever ask
Starting point is 00:21:27 your parents about it? No, it's not important. I know what's important. I remember a woman who I may have said this to you before, Pete. I remember a woman, it wasn't actually that long ago, who was completely surprised to hear that the sun and the moon weren't the same thing.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you've mentioned this confusing lady. But, I mean, if you're not really someone who's interested in science and you didn't pay attention at school, and you never really read any newspapers or listened to anything on the TV or spoke to any other human being ever, you could labour under that mistake. And it would be labour. It would be labour, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:22:02 For quite a long time. But I wondered if she was just sort of putting it on. But then she had some opinions about some other stuff, which I thought, no, you probably do believe it. So that's not quite in the same wheelhouse because it's older. I can't think of anything like that when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I used to, I used to say stuff. My granddad said to me once that I, cause I was come back from, from school one day full of the joys of spring. We had learned about the sun and how massive it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And my grandad saying to me, no, it's not that big, look, because I can cover it with my thumb, look how small it is. And I didn't really have the idea of perception and depth of field and stuff. And I was like, that is funny,
Starting point is 00:22:36 but at the same time, if I go back to school and say that, I'm probably going to get bullied for being stupid. But I don't think I really... Don't get involved. We all used to believe local urban myths about... Because one of the things, I don't know if you had Don't get involved. We all used to believe like local urban myths about... Because one of the things,
Starting point is 00:22:47 I don't know if you had it where you grew up, but where we grew up, obviously I grew up in a strategically very important city in the Second World War. And there were air raid shelters everywhere. Did you have them?
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah, we had quite a few because we were shipbuilding, yeah. And basically they descended into, I think, places just for old blokes to go and read porn magazines. But the thing that's surprising to me looking back on it now is they were just left
Starting point is 00:23:08 completely derelict so the door would be there the windows would be there you could walk in and out you'd think it'd be like locked up wouldn't you you'd think it'd be like yeah
Starting point is 00:23:17 and there's all sorts of rumours about they'd be haunted and all the rest of it and we used to go to this place near where we lived called Monk's Walk
Starting point is 00:23:25 which was this kind of forested area but it was a bit run down and one side of it was the was like an inlet from Portsmouth Harbour basically
Starting point is 00:23:32 and the other side of it was this was this weirdly this army assault course called what was it called I can't remember
Starting point is 00:23:42 what it was called now but the guy who ran it used to let you go on it. He shouldn't be doing that. He shouldn't have been doing that. He shouldn't be doing that. He should not have been doing that. But anyway,
Starting point is 00:23:50 in the middle of it it was all forested but there was loads of these air raid shelters there. But it became quite a big thing for us at school to be brave enough to go to Monk's Walk
Starting point is 00:23:56 after dark. Just these deserted places that would have been left. Yeah, because there would be like air raid shelters, porn mags, the physical training, the army physical training assault corps. He used to let us go on it,
Starting point is 00:24:09 like completely unsupervised. Ay-yi-yi. Yeah, it's not great, but it was the 80s, 90s. Speaking of dereliction of duty, do you say that Ninja, the big streamer, who's obviously the most famous streamer in the world,
Starting point is 00:24:21 he does a lot of Fortnite, he's moved from Switch to, sorry, Twitch, Twitch. Twitch, yeah. Twitch to another one run by Microsoft, Mixer. And Twitch left, so basically his content
Starting point is 00:24:34 on the page, basically, because he's obviously got the most followers and stuff, they just put a selection of other people that he could follow, because obviously he's not going to be on the...
Starting point is 00:24:44 So recommended followers. Yeah, so recommended followers. Recommended videos and streams that he might follow because obviously he's not going to be on the so recommended recommended videos and streams that you might like but one of the one of the top listed streamers on his page featured just porn
Starting point is 00:24:52 just somebody streaming porn wow can you even stream porn on Twitch isn't it no you get banned immediately but because it's for kids right no it's for everyone
Starting point is 00:25:01 but you can have spicy content but you can't just be rebroadcasting pornography remember that when that kid rebroadcast a UFC fight and he pretended it was a video game by just being in shock? I've got a lot of time for that.
Starting point is 00:25:14 That's very enjoyable. All right, Pete, let's get out of here. That's probably about enough for now. It's very hot in here, isn't it? Have a nice weekend, everybody. We'll see you back next week. If you've got anything you want to get off your chest,
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Starting point is 00:25:38 I will sell the information to the Chinese, though.

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