The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.56: Dog professor

Episode Date: September 26, 2019

Luke's been to Churchill War Rooms and Pete's been to McDonald's. Both places include technology of interest, one related to the safety and survival of millions of people in a war and one to get Chicken McNuggets to people more effectively. On today's LAPS there's chemicals with funny names, dinosaurs separated by millions of years, a man from Hartlepool breaking into abandoned buildings with 'mixed' results, and lots more. Don't sleep on it.To send us a subject for rumination and comment: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

we're back it's thursday and this is the luke and pete shaw how the devil are phew get involved get involved get at it get amongst it get on it yeah what's going on pete what's new not a lot really I've had a rather full week prepping for the football Ramble Live, baby. We're in Hackney tonight. If you're listening on a Thursday, that's ramblelive.com

if you'd like to see us. There might be a handful of tickets left for tonight's show, but there'll probably be some left for Saturday night at Alexander Palace. Do check it out, ramblelive.com.

Saturday's more fun, though. It's bigger, isn't it? Yeah, bigger night. We're talking about Ramble Live a lot, purely because I think this is the tour that we've done where we've put so much prep into it. Like normally, the show started out,

the live show started out, I should say, by the way, this is episode 199.56. It almost doesn't even bear thinking about. No, it doesn't. And it's Thursday the, what day was it today? 26th.

26th of September. When we started out doing Ramble Live, it used to be the four of us sat behind desks talking about football. And I think if we take a moment to stop and smell the roses, the show has evolved to such an extent. And we haven't played live for over two years. Is that right?

Yeah, because the last time we played was after the FA Cup final in 2017, I think. Wow. And the show we've planned this time is big and it's going to be great and we want you to come along so yeah do come

along if you've got a chance but that's been taking up the bulk of my time this week as well I was doing all kinds of

local radio press have you done any of that? No I haven't I've done like ISDN lines and stuff Yeah so what they do for us is

you go into I have done that a little vestibule in like BBC Centre or something Wogan House it's called and they put you in a room and you sit with headphones on

and the different radio stations from around the country dial in and every so often you just get a hello is that Luke you go yeah it's me alright it's Johnny

from BBC Radio Northampton how you doing like that and then you do your thing it's weird isn't it it's rather abstract that you're just in a room like a, it's how most local radio,

it's how most radio is done, really. Just in a booth, in an iced tea. I always find local radio people like a different breed as well. They're certainly lovelier. They're friendlier. They're more giving.

They've got proper radio voices as well. Yeah. Which I've never had. I was listening to a guy who, I'm not going to say what team or what podcast, but it was a team-based football podcast. Because I liked it every now and was listening to a guy who, I'm not going to say what team or what podcast, but it was a team-based football podcast. Because I liked it every now and again,

because you can't, yeah, you can't, it was one of the, one of the South Coast teams. And I was like, I wonder what they're saying about this. And they were,

he was being wonderfully cheesy. Like some people, when they get on the radio or get on a podcast, they think that they have to adopt a certain style and you have to be slick and you have to be smooth and you have to keep it going. You do kind of have to keep it going, but you don't have to necessarily be cheesy.

No. We're not naturally cheesy though, are we, you and I? We're more naturally cynical, I think. Yeah, but I mean just, yeah. No, not even cheesy, just kind of like trying to be like, you know, satirical, but taking like a sideways glance at something and trying to be like you know satirical but taking like a sideways glance at something and trying to be a bit cool

for school and it's like wow you're not gonna that's not gonna last you we went for years with people referring to us on the Ramblers oh they take a sideways glance

at football yeah how do you take a sideways glance at anything not sure you're doing it now though I suppose we're taking a sideways glance at life

on this show aren't we really I guess we are, yeah. One thing you have to be good at when it comes to radio, particularly talk radio, is you've got to be good at doing three or four things at once. And you've got to be good at half listening to different conversations at the same time. Because you've got someone over there making a point live on radio. You've got to listen to that. You've got to listen to your producer in your ear telling you what's coming next.

You've got to read something on the screen. You've got to think about who you're bringing in next and what you're going to say. There's so much stuff to remember and the people who do it well i i would say mark chapman on the bbc is the best of us at these just make it sound totally effortless and also pace changes as well if you're sort of talking about that's hard yeah cricket score to a death to something else yeah current affairs that is very tough speaking of death um i sort of sort of related i went to the churchill war rooms have you been uh no i would recommend it man people listening you've been will know exactly what i mean i like i like data technology so i imagine there's probably in there you'll

absolutely love it you'd love that then i mean the story of the churchill war is quite interesting because of course churchill went down there and decided he was going to conduct the Second World War from there. It's just over the back of Whitehall. It's all over the back of Whitehall. But what happened at the end of the war? As far as I can make out,

and they certainly make out this is the case in the museum itself. In like August 45, I suppose, around VJ Day, everyone left, closed the door, that was it.

See you later. Didn't go back in. Didn't go back in until the 80s. So when the people went in, I think maybe the Imperial War Museum company or whatever

got hold of it, went in there, it was so well preserved that one of the officers in there's sugar rations was still on the desk or in the drawer or something and it's perfectly preserved so they cleaned it all up

made some adjustments and then they've opened it up to the public, it's a fascinating place if you like two things you'll need to enjoy it, old technology is definitely one of them, second, maps maps everywhere, massive massive maps everywhere and some of them have Second, maps. Maps everywhere. Massive, massive maps everywhere.

Some of them have got doodles on them where they've taken the piss. On one of the big maps on one of the walls, someone in pencil has drawn a brilliant cartoon of Hitler drowning in the Atlantic. Yeah, it's quite funny. There's loads of good stuff in there. There's a place where Churchill would sleep.

There's a place where he would go and do radio broadcasts to the nation which would go filtered through broadcasting house. There's these things called

scramblers. Because the technology is so primitive, they have all these different coloured phones that would just

ring and they would answer them or whatever. But if they wanted to send important information, they used these phones called

scramblers. And what they are, they look like an old fashioned dial phone numbers obviously what they're called like a circular dial phone yeah

but they're attached to a massive briefcase like the size of that cabinet and they scramble the signal scramble scramble yeah imagine all the stuff

you have to remember and all analogue as well there's no kind of there's no microchips involved here just all analogue shit and the tubes the little room where he would broadcast to the nation all analogue as well there's no kind of there's no microchips involved here just all analogue shit and the tubes

the little room where he would broadcast to the nation I mean the the hardware is probably six feet high I bet it got warm

oh yeah I bet it did I bet it got warm I think I'm fairly certain they pioneered some kind of air conditioning down there really

yeah because there's primitive air conditioning everywhere as well and that there's little sucker tubes where they put little notes through to each other's rooms. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like that as well. It's a fascinating place. I was in McDonald's this morning getting a hlathwight. That's your kind of war room, isn't it? That's where you conduct a lot of your operations. It's where I conduct war on my own body. There was this, on Oxford Street, they've got this weird kind of system

where I think the kitchens are downstairs or upstairs. And they've got like a, what I'm going to call a paternoster, which is a lift that just continues up and down Oxford Street in the middle of Tottenham Court Road

and Oxford Street there's got this interesting kind of lift that takes food up and down and when it comes down the teeth intersect with another set of teeth

and your little chicken McNuggets flies off it it's a thawing thrift thing and it just means that the footprint of the actual

McDonald's can be actually quite quite small is it pleasing to watch it in action it's very pleasing I was thought that's gonna smash all our food no it gently

takes it off the leaf would you be gently takes it off the leaf I'll take that sunshine yeah it's gonna end up in Pete's belly like a butterfly landing

yeah um would you be interested in being in Churchill war rooms with Churchill just smoking endless cigars down the street? I know. The worst thing is all of them are smoking.

There's ashtrays everywhere. Can you just cut that out, please? Yeah. Incredible. The good news is we didn't get bombed. The bad news is I've got quite advanced lung cancer.

Epizemia. Yeah. Epizemia, yeah. Speaking of abandoned buildings, I've discovered a book from the North East. I'm not really sure what part of the North East

he's from. It's sort of around in between us and sort of oh I've seen this yeah yeah so he goes around and he's broken into

a couple of buildings in Hartlepool which I'm very interested in the Hill Carter Hotel was a hotel that opened kind of I think late 90s around the turn of the millennium

and it was like this big deal there's another hotel in town we've got the Grand Hotel now we've got the Hill Carter and it was like only like 10 or 11 rooms on church street near the train station beautiful location beautiful old building um i think that the court used to be there it doesn't matter anyway beautiful building and uh uh and i was dove calling anyway and uh it was all right yeah

gone down memory lane sorry um and uh so he's broken in there and he's just walking around um there's a nightclub bit i used to go to a fair bit there was a um uh all of the old rooms and stuff and he's sort of broken in and just walk around and like he's done the same to the audience which was a building that i spoke about uh before uh it's this big art deco kind of slight slightly art deco uh building um from the from the 50s i think and uh he's and it's been it's not at a decent um cinema we've got like a audience on the on the um uh on the marina it's it's very commercial you can only get like the most popular films like you know you're fast and furious and stuff like that it could do with

having like a better cinema somewhere uh but this audience cinema has been there for years and it's a beautiful building but they've just let it rot they're like the ceiling's coming in there's water everywhere but this guy's just walking around and he's not a particularly good narrator but i do recommend uh audion harley bill give it a search on youtube and maybe we'll tell you how i picked a video um he just walks around and the main things people have broken in for and they've stripped out aluminium and stuff and stripped out the expensive stuff but the main thing that people keep breaking into buildings and how they build is just booze. Just bottles, like single bottles of Stella.

They're just having them away and they'll all be out of date because the hill carter closed a couple of years ago. He's not a very good, he's obviously quite good at breaking into places, but he's not a very good narrator.

Every single room he walks into he goes, there's nothing in here. Fucking hell. My foot just got on the fucking floor. Oh, look at that. There's nothing in here fucking hell my foot just got on the fucking floor like oh god look at that there's nothing in here

12 minute video I watched the whole thing because you sent it to me and everybody walks into there's nothing in here like no sell it into me

make something up look at the infrastructure look at the wires and the wall and stuff and he's like he only gets excited when he sees the safe there's a safe in here

I've been in the safe like there's nothing here I'm going mate that building's been closed for a long time and whoever owns it will have got into the safe don't worry about it

there's not going to be any money left it's just the interest and stuff beer mats have a look at the beer mats have a look at the old posters the acts

the bands that used to be there let's have a look have a look at the bodies have a look at the bodies they did find I think in the Hill Carter or maybe the audience they found a it was like a doll.

It looked like a toddler. It was a doll fully dressed up, just lying on the floor. And it did look like the corpse of a child. It was genuinely chilling. Do you remember a year or so ago we found a story about some guys who went and buried all the old Soviet money? Yes. And they went to try and find it.

They actually found it. Yeah and they actually found it. That's not Leningrad, is it? Yeah, they actually found it. Yeah. That's amazing. It's worthless, though, right? I think it was worthless. If you found any money in the audience safe,

again, it went out of business ages ago. Don't worry about it. But we're still using pounds, though, crucially, aren't we, Pete? Yeah, but if you had £10 notes, wouldn't you? Yeah. You couldn't exchange that old £10 note for anything, could you? Yeah, you'd take it into the bank, brother. No, that was years ago. Take it into the bank, brother. It doesn't exist you couldn't exchange that old ten pound note for anything could you yeah you'd take it into the bank

brother nah that was years ago take it into the bank brother doesn't exist you can do that by the way

you know Thomas Cook got hit the wall went under terribly sad story people have lost their jobs and people's

hard work and people's holidays have been ruined and all the rest of it and I'm not making light

of that but it's quite interesting though because when I was in Santorini in May I was lying on the bed just checking my phone go and but it's quite interesting though because when I was in Santorini in May I was lying on the bed

just checking my phone go on help it's too hot and yeah and it came I was in my little capsule it doesn't let any UV light in it was a bit on the phone

saying oh Thomas Cook's in danger of going under then? then? yeah and I was actually worried about it

and I was on holiday with my family I showed my mum and she was like oh yeah I'll probably be alright and we never heard of anything like that again and now it's come back and now it's happened terrible news sounds like there family I showed my mum and she was like oh yeah we'll probably be alright and we never heard of anything like that again

and now it's come back and now it's happened terrible news sounds like there's been you know stick and plaster has been put over that for a few months now

yes actually any interest in the Rugby World Cup Peter any interest in the people who like rugby I enjoyed I met Gav posted a picture of

S4C which is the I think the Welsh is it a commercial channel I think it is a commercial channel isn't it it's not a BBC channel they posted on their

Twitter page the most generic kind of Japanese wank bit of I was going to ask you about this is this set

that ITV have set up is that problematic what do you mean it's very stereotypical kind of Japanese here's a dojo type thing right yeah yeah yeah

well the thing that you kind of notice about the Japanese is they don't like necessarily give a shit about that kind of thing they don't really of notice about the Japanese is they don't like necessarily give a shit about that kind of thing. They don't really know

what's xenophobic. They don't really know what's racist because they themselves are inherently from their systems and their closed offness. They don't have any

kind of immigration. They don't have any immigration, so they don't really know what's racist and what isn't racist. And they don't necessarily give a shit about, like,

for example, I've spoken about on the Broad and Japan podcast with Chris Broad another Chris Takano of a podcast but like the Hello Kitty

Avril Lavigne video she's got a big fan base over there they fucking love her because she's you know spent a lot of time there and you know

it's a big market for those kind of saccharine pop rock kind of acts and she did a song called Hello Kitty where she just went down Harajuku High Street,

found a shitty sweet shop and did a little fucking dance. She must be in her 30s now, probably. But like, you know, she did a little dance and did, you know, fucking Hello Kitty,

like all that. But used, you know, the Harajuku girl kind of Gwen Stefani thing. Whatever happened to Harajuku girls? Where did they go? Yeah, they used that

kind of like iconography in the image. Like, and everyone in the west got a little bit upset about when someone this is very stereotypical this is just you know

you got things but fundamentally it's not high culture is it like it's not high culture like Hello Kitty so you would argue

that it can't be appropriated well it can't be appropriated because it's a it's a commercial enterprise things like the dojo and stuff obviously got a lot of history there

but you know having a kind of like doing harajuku girls dressed up as you know school girls and doing all that shit that's a modern

commercial enterprise so they don't give a shit basically and they particularly do not give a shit I think with the dojo stuff when you get stuff like that I've not seen the set

so I can't comment but and also I'm not Japanese but I would I would think they don't have that much of a problem with that kind of thing which is. I've not seen the set, so I can't comment, and also I'm not Japanese, but I would think they don't have that much of a problem with that kind of thing,

which is interesting. I've always found that. Right, okay. Because I don't know myself, there's been some comments made about it, but yeah, it did look a little bit

stereotypical. Oh, the S4C Twitter header was fucking hilarious. Yeah, just like people dressed in like old kind of shogun, all of like the horse and stuff,

and like rugby stars dressed in like shogun clothes and stuff. It horse and stuff and like rugby stars like dressed in like shogun clothes and stuff. It was very, it was shite. It was absolutely shite. Another story that caught my eye is this story coming out

of Indonesia where the sky is in one of the provinces there. Of course, Indonesia is a hugely popular country. It goes under the radar in Indonesia,

in my opinion. The skies have turned like brutally and vividly red due to forest fires it's hard to dance with the devil on your back

well quite but the you know when there's when there's forest fires you tend to think of it being hazy and smoggy and it blocking out the sun but look at this photo

of whoa see that it's like it's like a red like a dark room in a photography studio it's like an infrared

camera picture if you take a picture in infrared it's very pink yeah very pink very photography studio. It's like an infrared camera picture. If you take a picture in infrared, it's very pink. Yeah. Very pink, very red. Yeah, so that's quite interesting. Anyway, it does look a bit like some of those photos you saw of Mars, so check that out if you get a chance.

Let's take a quick break, Peter. When we come back, we'll do some emails. That's what we do, baby. Jerry Halliwell there. There she is. Jake's been in touch says hello Luke and Pete hello at Luke and Pete

show.com of course is the email address please do get in touch about anything we talked about or anything you'd like us to talk about Jake's done that and he says hello Luke and Pete

my two year old son has recently got very into dinosaurs your niece Pete famously who we heard earlier in the week doesn't like dinosaurs all his dinosaurs hates them

yeah most kids love them he says therefore I bought him a number of dinosaur toys and books to play with and read and we generally get all the dinosaurs who heard earlier in the week, doesn't like dinosaurs. Orn's dinosaur hates them. Yeah, most kids love them. He says, therefore I bought him a number of dinosaur toys and books to play with and read and we generally get all the dinosaurs out and create different scenarios where they run around and occasionally battle. Therefore you can imagine how stupid I felt

when I discovered last week that the Stegosaurus was in fact a fossil when the T-Rex began roaming the earth. I saw this on Twitter originally and verified it online. There are 80 million years separating the two species therefore a fight between a t-rex and a stegosaurus is technically less accurate than a fight between t-rex and hitler i tried to find a toy hitler for my son's collection but no luck as yet i thought you might find that interesting

cheers jake um yeah there's a vast amount of separation between a lot of different species of dinosaurs, but we just tend to bracket them all up. That's like, I think I'm right in saying that the vast majority

of the species, if not all the species, in Jurassic Park didn't exist in the Jurassic era. I think most of the more exciting carnivorous dinosaurs

are Cretaceous dinosaurs, not Jurassic ones. And then obviously the period before that was the Triassic which is different again. They had a bit of a giggle with it.

Yeah, they're just taking the piss mate to be honest. They're taking the fucking piss. Piss take. Yeah. And they all got in the kitchen so. No accuracy. Next thing you know

they're opening doors. Imogen has got in touch. Hello both. Oh, I bookmarked this to read as well. Well, I've got it. It's rare. It's rare.

Imogen, that's when you know it's a good email because both of us have separately decided to read this one. In the I've got it. It's rare. It's rare. Imogen, that's when you know it's a good email because both of us have separately decided to read this one. In the Venn diagram of Pete and Luke's interests. I'll read it next.

As a long-time listener of the pod, I decided to trick myself and re-listen to your now extensive back catalogue in more. Come on. Come on, you've got

better things to do than that. It's nothing if not extensive. In episode 23, Sunday Brunch with Danny Dyer, Rick Edwards was talking about his experiences of sniffing ammonia, which he described

as the strongest alkali as the chemistry pedant that I am I felt the need to write and to correct this and tell you that there are in fact many other strong alkalis known as super bases love that so I would learn at school Imogen I know you can't talk back to me but I'm talking to you directly

that the highest number pH was the highest number alkaline I thought that was about 13 or 14 or something. And the strongest acid is down at pH one, right? And water is neutral, which is around about seven, 7.5, I think. I think. That sounds about right. Extend my chemistry knowledge.

That's all we got. Anything else I know, I learned off Breaking Bad. This got me thinking about other silly chemical names, some of which I will now regale you with. A disclaimer, I am only an undergrad chemistry student and ask that any of your other listeners are kind to me

if I make mistakes. Hey guys. Of course. Arsehole. Listen, you don't have to worry about it. If you bring in a chemical called arsehole,

you're in safe hands. A ring compound containing arsenic and although they are not commonly found in a pure form, there is a German academic paper whose title translates to Studies on the Chemistry

of the Arseholes. Also, a ring compound. There is a German academic paper whose title translates to Studies on the Chemistry of the Arseholes. Also, a ring compound. Nice. Exactly. Adam Antane is not named after Adamant, but rather after the Greek Adamas, meaning indestructible, as it has the same structure as diamond,

famously a hard, near-indestructible material. Coming tonight... Coming tonight... Coming tonight is a mineral discovered in the magnesium-rich rocks of Cummington, Massachusetts in 1824. Erotic acid.

Vitamin B13 is known as such due to generations of chemists thinking they were funny. It was originally erotic acid. If you add another carbon to it, it becomes homoerotic acid. Nice. Moronic acid is found in the pistachio resin,

which has been found in shipwrecks and inside ancient Egyptian relic jars. Its name comes from the similar hydroxy form morolic acid found in the heartwood of the mora tree. From there, it was only a short jump to the much more silly name moronic. And finally for now, penguin horn looks like a penguin.

The structure in a diagram all right and it's frankly a lot easier to pronounce than uh oh good god three four four five tetramethyl uh cyclohexa 2014 one one yeah these are only a few of these silly names of chemistry and with new compounds being made all the time uh there are uh infinite possibilities for many silly names in the future. Well, let's hear it for Luke and Peter Dextry. Yeah, love that. There's also one,

it puts me in mind of one I'm sure I read about when I was doing some mad kind of research for this show a while ago. I think there's one called Buckminster Fullerene as well. Buckminster Fullerene, nice.

Because they named it after the, because it looked like, similar to the penguin one, it looked like, in structural format, it looked like, similar to the penguin one, it looked like, in structural format, it looked like the shape of a kind of geometric shape that Buckminster Fuller

used to design or something like that. Because I think it comes down to the scientists that discover it, right? I think so, yeah. Which is why it's so disappointing. You can't be mad though,

you can't just make stuff up just for the shits and the giggles. But you know, astronomers only name planets and stars like 564B-5. It's a waste of time. Yeah.

I know it's probably some kind of cataloging system, but let's have a bit of fun with it. Like 199.56. This is an interesting one I thought would pique you, your interest, Pete, from Megan in New Jersey.

Pique my blinder. Yeah, this will pique your blinder. Hello, gents. Beloved fast food chain KFC is known to come up with some bizarre ideas for products, furthering their brand over the years. Examples include a fried chicken scented sunscreen, lip balm,

and finger-licking nail polish. Do you know about those? I knew about the lip balm. I'm happy to report they're back on their bullshit, this time with a dating simulation game launching on Steam on September 24th, which was this week. In it, you play as a culinary student

studying alongside a young Colonel Sanders, looking for love and to possibly become a business partner to the good man, the Colonel. There are nine characters, including a dog who's a professor at the school, because why not? Allegedly, various game mechanics

like cooking battles and secret endings are promised, resulting in multiple hours of gameplay. And Megan includes a link. You're on Steam, right, Pete? You probably download games on Steam. game mechanics like cooking battles and secret endings are promised resulting in multiple hours of gameplay. And Megan includes a link. You're on Steam right Pete? You probably download

games on Steam. Can you download the KFC game and let us know what it's like? I can do. I fear that we might have been had by some kind of clever video

game PR. I would like to investigate this woman to see if she works for a PR company. I'll click on the link. KFC is apparently

creating a Colonel Sanders dating sim. Finger licking good. Yeah it went all over the gaming world last week are you making it just like a market employee

well it is a market employee but it's also you know created a video game apparently it's pretty good would you be up for it I don't generally like those kind of

talk and book kind of games those kind of they're usually like manga characters and you're sort of like romancing people and stuff

because it reminds you of your own short films Doki Doki Doki Doki Literature Club came out last two years ago and that was like

a subversion of the art I recommend that this might be good as well though there are only two genres of video game okay Super Mario World Super Mario Kart

right okay kart does it have a kart in it platforming does it have a platforming I wouldn't mind you like there's a Twitter page

saying there's a Twitter account that checks out every game possible going and asks can you pet the dog if there is a dog in the game can you pet it

presumably you couldn't pet a professor because he's a teacher and that's very disrespectful in this particular game but it just basically goes through every game so can you pet the dog and even there's

been some games which have come out and because of this Twitter page Can You Pet The Dog has become quite popular and everyone retweets their content

they've actually gone back and added a dog petting option into the game like patched in after release. I also don't think that just because the dog's a professor

doesn't mean he doesn't want his belly rubbed. That's a good point actually. I mean you could be as rich and powerful as you want it doesn't mean you can't enjoy an ice pop or professor. It doesn't mean he doesn't want his belly rubbed. That's a good point, actually. I mean, you know, you could be as rich and powerful as you want. You still want your belly rubbed. It doesn't mean you can't enjoy

like an ice pop or something. You don't change. The very essence of the dog won't change. Good point. He's probably a very good boy. Probably likes KFC. I'd imagine those buns. Oh, mate.

Delicious. Them buns, them buns, them dry buns. Doubled up on the gravy last night on the KFC. 12 spicy wings, doubled up on the gravy and I got some mash on top of the fries, which was unwelcome at 3am when my stomach went, Peter, we have to talk. But it was, I might actually switch to mash and gravy

instead of the common fries. So KFCs in this country don't often do mash. So that one does, does it? Which one is it? I don't know, it was on delivery. Who was it that we both know that didn't know that KFC did gravy? Oh, I don't know. It was on Deliveroo. Who was it that we both know that didn't know that KFC did gravy?

Oh, I don't know. I think it might have been Sam from Set Meals. Really? Which is a massive gap in his knowledge for a food poker. I might be doing him a disservice

but it was someone we both know. They were stunned to hear that KFC did gravy and they promised to go and investigate it. KFC gravy is magnificent. It's absolutely fantastic. Delicious.

Speaking of genres of games, it always reminds me of the conversation you would have if people were listening if they're old enough. In the 90s, when it

became, you know, music was becoming popular again, you had Britpop, you had all this American rap music, you had all this other stuff. And I think it

discombobulated some of the older generation. Yeah. But they were still young enough to sort of go to the pub and they'd be like your mate's older brother

or your mate's dad or whatever. And every bloke of that kind of ilk, you used to just say, you'd talk about music in a pub in the 90s, they would say, Oi, listen son, there's only two genres of music, good and bad.

All right? And that's what you're reminding me of with the video game conversation. Let's do one more email from William. Okay. Sometimes I prioritize emails that are important clarifications to things we've talked about in the past.

And William says, hi guys, just a quick clarification on the petrol pumping palaver in the US. Yes. It is only illegal to pump your own gas in New Jersey. Oh. Lots of people think that you get your gas pumped for you in the u.s

apparently it's only in new jersey stemming from the 1949 retail gasoline dispensing safety and regulations act which states because of the fire hazards directly associated with dispensing fuel it is in the public interest that gasoline station operators have the control needed over that activity to ensure compliance with appropriate safety procedures, including turning off vehicle engines and refraining from smoking while fuel is dispensed. Now, to my knowledge, Oregon also had a similar law that was recently repealed. I only know this because of the Twitter melt

that I witnessed with many young men and women complaining about having to get out of their car on cold January mornings to have to pump their own gas. All the best. Keep up the good work. William. Tragic. I guess nowadays, with wearable tech and everything's got a little battery

in it, you'd be in a situation where pretty much everything, a Bluetooth headset, an Apple smartwatch, you couldn't wear while you're pumping gas because obviously anything that has a battery in it has the capacity to spark and therefore ignite the flames. But how likely is it to happen though?

Well you'd say the same thing about the smartphone couldn't you? Because you're not allowed to take a phone call are you because of the possibility of a spark.

But I thought it was one of those things like you're not allowed to use your phone on a plane. I mean like it's kind of just one of those things right?

You can't do it. Well no yeah. It's just a saying isn't it? Well no because they think that that's going to legitimately interfere with the and I suppose

the early mobile phones were analog so they would just be... I've taken as many flights with you as anyone has, and you are always absolutely dismissive in your attitude towards turning your phone off. Yeah, it's bollocks. But is it bollocks in a gas station as well? No, because you can still... Because anything with a battery...

Well, I'm no scientist, and I don't know how often sparks come out of smartphones, but I presume that is why you're not allowed to use your phone, because of the possibility of an electromagnetic spark. Why is it bollocks on a plane, then? Well, because if it makes a spark, it's not going to necessarily explode. No, but why do they stop it on a plane, then? Because in the early years, I presume, of phones contacting mobile phone towers, it perhaps had the capacity to interfere

with the communications between the control tower, ATC, and the planes themselves. But even then, perhaps they didn't. They just wanted to make sure that the pilot had a clear line of communication with the people on the ground. James Horncastle of this parish on the continent, he was flying to,

I think, Florence a couple of weeks ago. And he got in his chair, in his seat, ready for takeoff, dozed off, woke up

as they were landing. Thought he had dozed off for like hours. Turns out, 25 minutes into the flight they had turned around and gone back to London because the radio was faulty

right and his flight got cancelled so it was really disorientating that's annoying yeah we're waiting on going oh I'm done I've lost half an hour

imagine the joy of that imagine if it was a long haul flight yeah I've stepped for 8 hours no 20 minutes anyway let's get out of here hello at Luke and Pete should I get in touch

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