The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.57: A little bit of the bubbly!

Episode Date: September 30, 2019

How do you sleep? Pete wishes he could just take his arms off. It would make the whole ordeal easier. One thing that would definitely make life more entertaining is having Samuel L Jackson voicing your Alexa - something that is now actually possible thanks to our overlords at Amazon, so we discuss that as well.Elsewhere there's talk of testicles, Michael Gove's demeanour, and the ways and means of making KFC gravy— which is not for the faint hearted, believe us. Probably won't stop either of us eating it, mind.To get in touch: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. Hello, Luke. All right. Oh, is that what it's going to be, is it? It's Monday morning and we are recording a Luke and Pete show. I'm happy-go-lucky Donaldson and I'm joined by misery-guts Luke Moore. It's a role reversal.

It's a flip reversal, people. How are you doing, Luke? You all right? Pretty good. What's going on? Just recovering from the Football Ramble live shows over the weekend. There's 450 of them to go, mate, so you better get used to it. It's weird. I mean, I'm not saying it's a high-octane show or nothing, but after the show, I'm fucking rinsed, mate.

Yeah, it's mentally draining, though, isn't it? Yeah. It's great fun. I mean, I have a run around on the stage and stuff, but, I mean, that shouldn't really. It lasts for exactly one minute and a half, half a minute. Yeah, you don't actually run the whole time. No.

What I've noticed is this idea you have, which is brilliant, even two shows in there, you're already bored of it. I'm not bored of it. I'm just tired of it. Tired. Tired of it.

What else have you been up to apart from that? I mean, of course, you did your textbook thing on Saturday night where you didn't want to have a beer with me after. I'm just tired of it. What else have you been up to apart from that? Of course you did your textbook thing on Saturday night where you didn't want to have a beer with me after. I had beers with you. I was in the same place

having beers for two hours after the show and I did a show with you and I spent three hours before the show. So when is, it's on your terms isn't it really? I want 24 hours straight

with you and that's only then will I be sated Jesus I mean we are going to be doing that I guess in Liverpool to Northampton won't we this Thursday only then

will the bank be full what have you been doing apart from that anyway well I yeah just recovering from that really did a bit of work on Sunday when I was

very sleepy I on Rock and Roll Football on Absolute Radio I announced all the Scottish fixtures that were kicking off

at 3pm that afternoon which weren't kicking off for another week I'm very aware that the Scottish listeners get very angry when I don't mention the Premier League fixtures

north of the border but to say it to them I decided to read out their fixtures seven days in advance did the text console light up no I got one tweet about it

these guys are fucking idiot fucking twat but though I did get brownie points from some wrestling fans for using the phrase little bit of the bubbly

what is that I think it's Chris Jericho in backstage having a drink of some champagne he goes little bit of the bubbly

and it was a bit of a gif that went around for quite a while. Can you actually see it? Can you actually hear him say it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes, just literally type in little bit of the bubbly

and you will find a million different memes that have been modified. Little bit of the bubbly! I think it's Chris Jericho. Certainly he was CC'd in one, didn't he? A little bit of the bubbly! Let's hear it again. Oh! A little bit of the bubbly. Let's hear it again.

Oh, a little bit of the bubbly. Oh, a little bit of the bubbly. Amazing. I got a lot of time for that. I didn't know about that. Yeah, a little bit of the bubbly. So you're doing that on the... I just shout it, but no, because I've run out of ideas,

because it's a far, long show, and I run out of ideas after a while. At what point did that come in? An hour and a bit yeah four hours is a lot isn't it absolutely spent so yeah

you're doing that show on your own on my own I thought it used to be you and Ian Wright well he's busy right so he's doing other stuff now

I used to I loved working with Ian Wright he's a very giving man but there's no he's frequently exhausted himself because he's got so many engagements but there's no replacement they've just himself because he's got so many engagements.

But there's no replacement. They've just thought, well, Ian Wright's irreplaceable, so we're just going to crack on. Just crack on, yeah. Just take it on his own. I've got a balloon that I speak to. Pretend it's Ian Wright.

What happens if a goal goes in in the middle of a song, then? Just, well, what happened in the Newcastle-Leicester match is that two went in while I was playing the new Radicals. Right, and you were surprised probably for the whole show

thinking, how many goals in Scotland this weekend? And there's nothing from the borders. Yeah. Never mind. And that's why I'm unprofessional. Why are you unprofessional, Luke? Because I try really hard.

I'm just not that good. Whereas you are good, but you just don't try. I try really hard, but I'm not that good. And so that's why. But the reason I ask is because on my Friday night show,

there's always a football match on Friday night. Yes. Whatever is happening, I'm under strict orders to interrupt and go straight over to the live commentary

to get the goal as it breaks because they're obsessed with breaking news. Yeah. Imagine if it came in just as it was kicking off in Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody, for example.

Oh, there's been a goal at the King Power yeah but I love it because I get to do like a Jeff Stenning so say for example do you say

oh my god shut your mouth like McCauley on Big Brother no no no oh my god shut your mouth there's been a goal at the King Power I'll do like on Stoke Nottingham Forest

on Friday night I'll do like for example Stoke scored the first goal yeah and if I get in my ear that there's been a goal yeah there's been a goal I'll always do the old last we heard it was like for example Stoke scored the first goal and if I get in my ear that it's been a goal

it's been like has it been a goal I'll always do the old last we heard it was 1-0 to Stoke but there's been another goal but which way's it gone Simon Humphries

like that so people who are listening get oh my god what's going to happen no one's listening but if they were it's gone to a third party it's neither

it's Notting Forest or Stoke exactly oh I've got a bit of acid acid ingested has just attacked my throat because i uh listened i listened to um my heart and see how i converted that sentence from a shit pit to an exciting uh kind of cul-de-sac there i was in a cul-de-sac i said the word listen when i meant eat and i went i listened to my heart a little bit of the bubbly a little bit of bubbly that's what's happening in my throat right now.

A little bit of the bubbly. A little bit of the bubblings from the story. A little bit of the bubbly. Stop this. Right in your throat. That's what it was. I went to get,

because I can't buy ranitidine anymore, which is my favourite anti-acid. Anti-acid. Anti-acid, yeah. Anti-acid, anti-acid. Because apparently

it's linked to cancer. And I was thinking, I've been chowing down on those for the last three years. How many have you had? It must be in the 50s now. Must be in the 50s or 60s. What are they, sweets? No, they're like really good Rennies that don't taste of anything.

They just go down. Your acid ingestion is gone. It probably decimates your stomach line as well. Well, apparently... Scorched earth policy. Apparently the way they make them, they can't discount some dodgy cancer-causing chemicals that are getting into the system.

So that's annoying. So my favourite antacid is off the chart and off the menu. You have to go back to the Gaviscon, Matt. I remember the Gaviscon days. Maybe I just need to stop eating shite food. Yeah, I think... I had a curry last night is my point. I never have a curry.

I have a Chinese usually. You're treating the symptoms, not the cause, though. Yeah. What you need I had a curry last night is my point. I never have a curry. I have a Chinese usually. You're treating the symptoms not the cause though. Yeah. What you need to do is not spend your entire life adult life chowing down on Gaviscon Rennies

and that stuff. You need to have a look at it and go, what am I eating that's making this happen? Yeah, but it's drinking lager and eating bad food, isn't it? Don't drink lager then.

I'm not going to stop doing that. I like lager. I like a fizzy. You should have grown out of lager by now. What were you drinking on Friday, Saturday? You were drinking lager because that was in the fridge.

Yeah, because for some reason on the rider, someone's put 48 bottles of Heineken, which is the worst out ever. No one even likes Heineken apart from you. Is Heineken... No, I wouldn't say that's my lager choice. It's Stella, to be quite frank. That's even worse.

No one's going to drink that. But the Heineken... Haven't they reinvented themselves with Heineken? Didn't they sort of say oh was it Carlsberg who said oh no it was Carlsberg who said they were

the best beer in the world but now they've gone back to basics right they let themselves down by just kind of resting on their laurels and now they're back

in a weird kind of PR move I'm impervious to lager advertisement so I wouldn't know because I just don't really like it I'm much more I prefer a

juicy IPA a juicy IPA. A juicy IPA. Anyway listen did you read today this week that Samuel L. Jackson's voice has been added to Amazon Alexa?

Oh no. Why are they doing that? Why are they doing that? I think it would be more interesting wouldn't it? Would it? I mean how old is Samuel L. Jackson now?

He must be in his 70s. He must be quite he must be getting on. Probably is Zio Jackson now? He must be in his 70s. He must be quite, he must be getting on. Probably is, yeah. I'd say he'd be about 70, I reckon. So what's he saying? There ain't no motherfucking

snakes on this Alexa. He's exactly 70, by the way. Oh, good news. I mean, they've just added his name. I was wondering when it was going to, because when SatNavs came about,

people started putting Yoda in there, John Cleese as, what's his name, Basil Fulton, all the rest of it. And Amazon Alexa's never done that. And I wondered whether that's because they were like, no, that's bullshit, we ain't doing that. And then they released a thing today,

or this week, saying that you can add him as a voice, and he can actually swear as well. As he swear. Yeah. But it's a bit novelty, isn't it? How many words would he, because that's a long recording isn't it how many words how many words would he because that's a long recording session it's almost infinite

well yeah I mean like yeah I mean that's a lot of work because he'll have to say every word won't he or does does it work in syllables

or that's a really hard kind of like recording session that must be in weeks yeah and he's 70 so and he's 70 so

I don't think I'd much pay off for that either he's Nick Fury he gets more enjoyment having Nick Fury I think than being Amazon Alexa who would you have as your Alexa voice

I'd have Bobcat Goldthwait see he would be very satisfying I'd quite like Brian Blessett I think but that would get annoying after a while wouldn't it

it would get annoying I think he's got quite he's got an authoritative shouty voice but I think I'd I'd be down with it my Amazon Alexa I forget it's always in viewitative shouty voice but I think I'd I'd be down with it my Amazon Alexa I forget

it's always in view in the front room but it's not plugged in so I like I usually go Alexa and it won't do anything it's not cable

plugged into it they need a battery operated one I told you my grandad he can't get this to work because he just keeps calling it Electra

Electra that is a better name I would train mine so that every time I popped a bottle of champagne oh a little bit of the bubbly.

Oh! I'm glad that you're enjoying that. It's great. Yeah. Did you see the new story that's... It wasn't a new story. People are trying to find out why all 90s computers were beige. Yeah.

And apparently, anecdotally, it stemmed from, because obviously all computers now are kind of black and all kinds of different interesting colours, and laptops are certainly black, but they had to get special dispensation from, I think, the German government back in the day who had very specific rules as to how a workplace needs to function.

You need to have natural light and stuff like that. You need to be near a window and stuff, which is a good thing, really. You should have natural light when you work in an office for eight hours plus. But apparently back in the day, although there is no hard evidence, nobody can find references in the actual workplace rules and regulations, but apparently all of the furniture, it had to be very neutral and very beige.

So apparently, that's where it comes from. And that's why all computers in the 90s were this horrible kind of like yellowy beige kind of colour. I never really thought about that. But now you've mentioned it, I know exactly what you mean. Of course, Macs are like brushed aluminium, aren't they now? Yeah. Well, I mean, it changes all the time, isn't it? Remember those clamshell iMacs that were like kind of see-through and blue

and stuff like that? I wish I'd go back to those times. Like that hard plastic. Do you remember that? Yeah. Hard plastic, see-through blue. It was quite breakable though, isn't it? I don't know what it is though.

You can get some quite rugged plastic machines. Probably the old rubber, wouldn't it? There was a little bit thing doing the rounds on Twitter the other day about the US standard railroad gauge. Oh, yes. In the track. Deriving directly from the width

of Imperial Roman war chariots and like people basically tracking their lineage. So, oh,

the US width of a railroad track is this because of this back in the UK and this is because of this and traced it all the way back to the Roman times.

Yeah. And, but unfortunately it's much more on coincidence uh than a direct line of imitation so whoever tried to trace it all the way back um it's not actually true made some leaps and it's annoying for a couple of reasons one because that would have been a really cool story and two because i had it all laid out for an episode of luke and pete show and i don't really want to chuck lies out there purposely. Yeah, you are quite diligent at things like that.

More diligent than you. It doesn't make me diligent. Well, whenever we're doing the ramble, if ever I hear you look down at your Mac and tap, tap, tap, you're checking one of my facts. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not the ringmaster.

People think Marcus is the ringmaster. I'm the one who has to sit here checking. I get facts wrong all the time, though. Yeah. The people need to understand that if you tweet me saying, oh, you got that wrong and think that that's fun then I do or you and I

do hours and hours of broadcasting every week. So we probably we do hour a week on this. We do probably two hours a week on Ramble.

We do I do an hourish on OTC. Yeah. I do an hourish on Ramble meets. And do an hour-ish on Ramble Meets. And I do three hours and a bit on Torswell. So I do between eight and ten hours of broadcasting a week. That's a long time. And there's going to be facts that I got wrong there.

Yeah. But, I mean, be like me, I do two hours on Ramble, one hour on Luke and Pete, three hours a night on Absolute Radio, four hours on Sunday. No, you don't, because it's songs. It's songs. Four hours on Sunday.

It's songs, though. I could get my songs wrong. You could do, yeah. I could get them in the wrong order. Yeah. And I do Wrestle Me, and I do Abroad in Japan, and I couldn't give a shit about where I've been. Okay?

Yeah. Do you know what I do after a long week, Pete, when I've had a really good week, and I feel like I've worked really hard yeah oh a little bit of the bubbly

stop it I'm annoyed I've got that ox hair off you yeah it's my first mistake all right listen let's go there have a quick break and we'll come

back and we'll do some do some emails and in that ad break we might have a little bit of the bubbly the problem appears to be that we haven't got our photo ID to try and travel to Scotland,

which, as far as I can remember, was in the British Isles. What can we do? We're utterly hamstrung by these thick-headed people wearing orange suits. What a cunt. And also, that'll be out of date soon, because when Scotland leaves the British Isles, it won't be relevant. Yes, good point. Show at,

no, hello at lukenpeatshow.com. Hello at lukenpeatshow.com is your email address to get in touch with us about anything we've spoken

about in the first half there or indeed anything that takes your fancy that you'd like us to speak about in the future. Speaking of politics, I see Gorvy

turning up for her to Parliament pissed out of his mind. Well, the thing is, I don't actually think he was. What? I just think he's

quite an eccentric fellow. That is pissed. Have you seen the image of him clapping? Yeah. I think he's just got a lot of strange approaches

to motor function. Honestly, I do honestly think that. There are certain things that can impair your motor function, though. You would know that. He'd had a few heinies. You reckon? Backstage.

He'd slammed a few ramble... Backstage. 48 bottles of Heineken, please. That's the rider. Oh, fantastic stuff. Quick clarifications and corrections. I think it was Megan that emailed in last week about the KFC interactive video game.

Love story. Megan is not a member of the gaming PR press. All right. Did you accuse her of being so? I did. I did j'accuse Megan. But no, she's not. So there you go.

So apologies for casting aspersions. Though she did used to work for a PR company that did represent KFC briefly. Oh, what? That's a coincidence. Oh, money. I don't believe her. Money.

Yeah. I'll tell you about it. Yeah. One person who has contacted us through hello at lukeandpete show.com is Paul, who lists himself as being in Wellington. Now, I don't know if that's in Wellington in Somerset, or

Wellington in New Zealand. I hope it's New Zealand, but equally as valid in Somerset. He says, hi guys, love the podcasts. Following from your testicle chat in episode 199, I wanted to provide my

insight into the painful issue of testicular torsion. So this is 199.57 this episode. So it does get a little bit kind of hectic. You have to look at the list on your podcast app of choice to work out how long ago that was. And that is Pete's fault. Paul goes along to say, it goes on to say,

I can confirm that it is, sorry, he says, as both a GP and someone who has suffered this, I have developed a particular interest in the subject of twisted balls. I can confirm that it is not unexpectedly bloody painful. Think having the sensation of being repeatedly kicked in the balls whenever you move. But not only that,

the twisting can prevent blood from travelling back up the testicle. This causes the testicle to become swollen, and in turn, the swelling compresses the arterial blood supply to the testicle and can cause the testicle to become ne, and in turn, the swelling compresses the arterial blood supply to the testicle and can cause the testicle to become necrotic and have to be removed. It is therefore considered to be a medical emergency and needs to be corrected as soon as possible. This is done by cutting open the scrotum, untwisting the nut,

and then stitching both of them to the inside of the scrotum to prevent it happening again. All in all, it's not a fun experience. Although in my case, it did get me two weeks off school as a seven-year-old. Plus, I got lots of guilt-related presents from my parents who thought I was making it up to get out of church. So that's horrific, but also at least insightful and interesting. And what it made me think of is that, you know when you sleep on,

say you fall asleep on your front and your arm's underneath you. Aye. And it goes dead. And you wake up in the middle of the night or in the morning and your arm is just dead. You can't feel it. It's weird. And it's kind of not as bad because you're still half asleep.

Yeah. And you just shake your arm around and it kind of gets better. Shake it off. What I'd like to know from the doctors in the Luke and Pete show community is how long can you do that for before it starts to become

a real problem? Because there's a guy, I think he's dead now. I'll just double check. I think he's dead now. But he's the guy from, and he recorded, he's a musical artist

and he recorded under the name, he's called Mark Linkus and he recorded under the name Sparkle Horse. He died in 2010, I'm just checking here. But I'm fairly certain, he had a very difficult life. I think sadly committed suicide

and I think he had a problem with heroin for a very long time. Loved Sparkle Horse back in the day. Yeah, in a London hotel, he passed out, nodded off on heroin basically, with his legs tucked under him for such a long time that they lost all function. He could never walk again. Excuse me. He couldn't walk properly,

at least, anyway. I think he was in that position for, obviously, a number of hours for it to happen. But I was thinking, if you were particularly tired and you fell asleep on your arm, you didn't wake up for eight hours. I mean, it's a long time for there not to be blood flowing to your arm. So I wondered if anyone who's a GP or a doctor would know how long it would be before that became dangerous.

But isn't it like kind of, I mean, there's still function, there's still blood. I mean, I guess there's still signals going through. So it's not, there's still enough blood going there. It's just not enough to give a feeling. You reckon? I think that's the first thing that goes, isn't it? And then the tissue starts to necrotize. But yeah, eight hours seems like a...

I just want time scale, mate. I'd like to take my arms off when I sleep, to be honest. They're just a real pain in the arse. Where do you put them normally? Right arm up underneath the pillow. Left arm can do what it wants. So I'm kind of left arm, right arm on the pillow, on my head like that.

Left arm underneath, on my stomach. Yeah, because I sleep alone quite a lot, depressingly. I sometimes put my, because it's quite loud outside, I put my arm,

my left arm over my head to block out. I do, but then I can't be honest, I reach behind, reach behind me and grab some earplugs that's how lazy I am

and I put my what's that muscle the bicep bicep into my ear to block out the sounds just mate

as part of your routine just put your earplugs in it's not who needs a routine sleeping's all relaxing isn't it I sometimes put on the car map have you used that before no I've used

headspace right that's probably a similar thing but it plays like music rain and stuff like that rain? No, I've used Headspace. Right. That's probably a similar thing, but it plays like music. Rain and stuff like that, yeah. Rain and music, and I think Moby's got a playlist in there. The problematic Moby.

Yeah, but that's why I wouldn't be listening to that. I didn't even like Moby before it was problematic. Headspace is more of a mental health kind of app, but it is very good. There's a Matthew McConaughey audio book as well, where he says, all right, all right, all right, you all ready to do some sleeping

really and he just talks and he goes y'all fix yourself for the river and let's all just

get some sleep are you making this up no honestly he just yaps wow he just yaps through the whole thing it's really funny

it's quite quiet obviously I share a bed with my wife with my wife and whatever the position I sleep in depends on, obviously, what she wants to do. But where we live, it's quite quiet. But you do get, because we're in a terraced kind of like Maisonette flat kind of thing.

Right, okay. You do hear people knocking about and there's kids around and stuff. So sometimes I pop the earplugs in if I need to. Also, you know, as anyone who's married will know, 6.30am every weekday, the hairdryer comes out. Not the Alex Ferguson hairdryer, the actual hairdryer. Because I have very thin hair, and I think drying my hair with a hairdryer

takes about 30 seconds. Girls, it's a mission, isn't it? If you asked me to honestly estimate how long it takes my wife to dry her hair in the morning, I'm probably guessing in hours rather than minutes.

So sometimes the earplugs go in if I don't want to wake up too early. I normally wake up about 7.30 every morning anyway, but I need that bit of extra sleep. This morning I was

particularly tired after the weekend. I'd have the earplugs in. Anyway, what email have you got? Well, similarly, Lewis Sullivan says actually I was

stopped outside the Rumble show last week in Hackney we had a good time Rumble live.com if you want to come down to future gigs a lad who had

emailed in about a year ago about testicles he'd I think he'd lost a testicle right I laughed before I heard that bit I wasn't laughing

he lost a testicle I think he might have damaged testicle. Right. I laughed before I heard that bit. I wasn't laughing at you losing a testicle. He lost a testicle. I think he might have damaged it at a fairground. That said, I had a couple of drinks, and I can't really remember, but he was basically having a go at us for not reading his out. But people need to understand.

And if I type in testicles in the search bar, that's easily 100 emails. No, but this is the thing. People need to understand from our point of view I think there needs to be a bit of empathy from our plight

yes some parts of our life some parts of our life particularly when we do live shows will be an endless supply of people afterwards coming up

to us going I'm the guy who emailed you about that time that the pervert down the bottom of my street smacked me over the head with an iron bar do you remember me

and it's like no sorry did we not read that email out that sounds brilliant that just happened to me yeah so it's like, no. Sorry, did we not read that email out? That sounds brilliant. That just happened to me. Yeah. So it's not easy to remember

all the emails. I mean, if you look at, in the Hello at Luke and Pete show email box at the moment, we've got, I want to find it. We've got currently,

here we go, 600, I think, and 55 unread emails. Yeah. So it's now just gone up to 668 unread emails yeah but the unread

emails are clearly spam we read every email we just don't it's the spam emails that we don't read there's some I haven't got to you

we've got a lot of emails one here contains the words dildo and butthead in the subject nice so I've got to build up to that kind of email

carry on blundering NHS doctors chop off 62-year-old man's testicle. Lewis came in with this one. Is he that bad? He's had it for 62 years? An unnamed man was booked in for a 30-minute procedure to drain a lump in his testicle at Furness

General Hospital in Barrow, Cumbria, but it got infected and the whole thing was chopped off. Well, I mean, if it gets infected... We talked about this before. You said you wanted 20 grand to have all your testicles taken off, didn't you? Did I? That seems low. What's your price now?

We're a couple of months down the line, so therefore they're less effective. Yeah, and I think, I mean, you wanted a lump cut enough, and you got a lump cut enough, cut it off, so... Slightly bigger. Imagine if a surgeon said that afterwards. Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, mate.

Imagine he walked in and went hi everybody oh yeah he left a oh so they left the drain in the testicle for 24 hours

which became infected but I mean what if they couldn't you know new fluid arrives it's got to come out somehow you're not a medical professional Pete

I'm on the side of the NHS and that's one to be quite frankly so there we go if you'd like to get a shot, it's hello at lookandpicture.com. What about this from Matt?

He says, Hi guys, love the show. First time emailer. I'm emailing after listening to last week's episode when you were talking about memes. Memes. The thing is,

Luke, when talking about a meme, you went on to describe a short video. I was under the impression a meme could only be a picture, but I'm happy to be proved wrong. Matt. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, probably just a picture. So a little bit of the bubbly. I know you go, a little bit of the bubbly. That's a meme could only be a picture, but I'm happy to be proved wrong. Matt. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, probably just a picture.

So a little bit of the bubbly. I know you go, a little bit of the bubbly. That's a meme. Is that a meme? 231,000 views. It's gone viral. It's a viral video rather than a meme though, isn't it?

Ah, now we're in. A little bit of bubbly. So would the gif of Vince McMahon tearing both his quadriceps be a meme? Yeah, I don't know, to be honest. Yeah, memes are repeated thematic triggers, aren't they? They're kind of like jump-off points for jokes and references. So, yeah, maybe images can only be memes,

though GIFs being soundless, being utterly unexciting, I would probably say that would be a meme. So you know who invented know who coined the term? Well, Johnny Mimmy. No, it's Richard Dawkins. Really? Yeah. In the 1976 book, The Selfish Gene,

he talks about how it could be replicated, obviously how evolution could be replicated within a culture. And the official definition of a meme is an idea, behaviour or style that spreads from person to person within a culture often with the aim of conveying a

particular phenomenon, theme or meaning represented by the meme. So I don't think it matters about the actual format. I think anything can be a meme I think.

So if something's gone viral and it's then used to describe something else, then you could probably say that my favourite gif is a little kid

who's doing the old he's got this amazing face and he's smiling and sort of smirking at something that's happened yeah that's just like that's really like

a glorified emoji really yeah isn't it but it's a gif if there's one I'm thinking of it's a lot of talk of digital blackface that's a bit of that isn't it

no it's not no way is it well people sort of use images of black people doing like you know, going, and it's kind of overused. That's fine.

I get that. But nothing about that gif has anything to do with the kid being black. No. In fact, when I described it just now, I don't even think I said he was black. You didn't. No, he's just a kid. He's got a really funny face because he's so happy about something. He could easily be a white kid.

But that's images of black people. I used more than any other image, you know what I mean? So it's overused. Okay, right. Nothing,

your heart is pure. It's not. In this case, I am, there's no, there's no kind of suggestion that it's in any way dependent

on the fact that it's a kid's race. I agree. I agree, Luke. Anyway, this is a great, this is a great email.

I wanted to do this one. It's from Adam, who says, Hi, chaps. I used to work in a KFC while studying at university, and naturally on breaks, you're able to eat some of the food KFC prepared, which sounds great,

although it does get repetitive to the point of where you start making your own burgers and trying all the sauces on offer for the worst chips in the business. Yeah, they are the worst chips in the fast food business. I'm going to be honest there. So I agree with you, Adam. He says, before working at KFC,

my order usually contains some of the gravy you mentioned a week or two ago. However, after learning the secrets of the gravy, I rarely touched it thereafter. There are two types of gravy in KFC, one step and three step. One step is usually dished out when the restaurant has run out of gravy and needs more pronto. This is essentially gravy crammed with water, chucked into the microwave, stirred around,

and it's watery and fairly tasteless. I've never had that one at KFC. I was surprised to read that. Three step gravy is the one that everyone raves about. Have you had it, Pete? Yes, I have. Quite recently. Yes, it's very tasty, but the process of making it isn't very dreamy.

At the bottom of the fryer, there is essentially a sieve. Every time you filter out the fryer, all the fat, gristle, bones and whatever else are caught. Having been fried for hours on end at around 300 degrees, it turns into a mush reminiscent of wet sand you probably find at the bottom of the sea, underneath like an oil rig or something. I've attached a picture. It's a horrible picture.

The first cooks usually take around from 10 in the morning until 10 at night. This could indeed be different depending on where you are, but hundreds of pieces of chicken will go through the fryer on a daily basis

and it will only get cleaned out at the end of the day. The remains you see in the picture are then used the following day along with another bag of granules to make the gravy you love. After seeing it up close, I promise you I haven't touched it.

The substance collected can be used many days in advance. Yeah, love the show, but please do get beans instead. See you in Leeds for the Ramble Live. That's from Adam. And I mean, it still tastes amazing.

It tastes amazing. Edward Hodge also made that point about the gravy being sieved out nonsense. I mean, we're eating KFC. We're eating the chicken that's in that fry anyway. I don't understand why that would be

such a problem. I mean, because chicken gravy is just, you know, the essence, isn't it? And so,

I don't have a problem with this, massively. I don't understand why it's a problem. I really want you to try, when my mum makes

a Sunday roast, the gravy she makes is unbelievable. It is unbelievably good. She makes it in the meat pan first. And she does this thing, it takes ages,

she keeps adding stuff and then once it's ready in the meat pan, only then does she pour it into a saucepan and carry on cooking it. I'd like you to say it's my mum's gravy.

Because you would not be impressed. Alright, that's enough for now. KFC gravy, that's the lateral conclusion on this episode. I like it. Thank you very much for listening. We'll be back on Thursday

with some more of this nonsense. We were going to pre-record Thursday, so because we're going up to Liverpool to go Ramble Live. RambleLive.com for tickets. He said under the sea. I don't know why. Under the sea.

I have no idea why. Darling, it's better down where it's wetter. I heard the word pool, obviously. Never mind. See you later. Oh, a little bit of the bubbly. This was a Stakhanov production.