The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.58: A cannibal that doesn't exist

Episode Date: October 3, 2019

It's been a while but on today's show we delve back into the conspiracy theory/apocryphal tale arena, thanks to an over-exuberant listener who may or may not be old enough to know better. Bless.On safer territory, there's the World Stone Skimming Championship and Pete possibly being the most bored Luke has ever seen him. We also discuss the rules of a duel (seconds out!), some stuff on boxing (seconds out again!), we hear from the great Fred Trueman, and then get into a chat with the lesser-spotted Pilot Claud! Yep, there's another one in our ranks! We'll have enough for our own air force soon...To out yourself as a pilot, a cannibal, a world-class stone skimmer or anything else for that matter, it's: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How you doing? It's the Luke and Pete show. I'm the star of the show, Pete Donaldson, and my sidekick Luke Moore is with me wearing tan trousers. I'm a supporting artist. Do you remember when Barack Obama wore that tan suit and it was the most shocking thing anyone had ever seen? People absolutely lost their mind. Lost their fucking minds. I'd give a left ball to be back at that point when that sort of thing was shocking.

The thing is, it wasn't that long ago, but it was when there was nothing else to talk about. It was only the right-wing press doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fox News and all the rest of it talking about how it wasn't presidential for him to wear a tan suit. And you just think to yourself, yeah, look at the shit showing up.

Oh, it is fun though, isn't it? The president came out addressing reporters on Thursday and he was wearing this tan suit. Ooh, what was that? I like that bit at the end. Apparently it's August 2014. It's weird to think of a time

where there was so little to talk about they have to kind of find angles and I always say to my American family and friends

when the subject of Fox News comes up and actually Fox News has taken a little bit of a sort of slight turn under their new

management and I don't think they're quite I think I'm right in saying I've not been over there for a little bit of a slight turn under their new management. And I don't think they're quite... I think I'm right in saying, I've not been over there for a little while, but I think I'm right in saying that they've taken a little bit of a cooler stance on Trump recently. I think there's definitely something in the water. Trump's certainly been very critical of... But there was talk that he's briefed his closest advisors saying, we've got to find a new network here because they're not supporting him.

Because he thinks Fox should be the propaganda wing of the White House, basically. I mean, it is very much so. It has been that previous year. It continues to be with most of the host. But I think that's the big plan with Trump. I think Trump and, I guess, Bannon was obviously very much on that page.

To have a glorious defeat and have his own network. Yeah, to start their own network. You know, the only place where you can be who you want to be, blah, blah, blah. I agree with you. But I was just going to say, I was saying to, if it ever comes up in conversation,

I always say to my American family and friends, I'm like, we don't have Fox here. I'm fairly certain Ofcom said it couldn't be a news channel here. It's not impartial enough

and if they wanted to broadcast it, they'd have to broadcast it on an entertainment channel instead. Right, okay. And I think there was a bone of contention around that. So we don't actually get it here. I thought we did have a Fox channel. I think we have got a Fox channel, but it's mainly just family guy and stuff, isn't it? Yeah, okay. And I think there was a bone of contention around that. So we don't actually get it here. I thought we did have a Fox channel.

I think we have got a Fox channel, but it's mainly just Family Guy and stuff, isn't it? Yeah, no. American Dad. But that's Fox Entertainment.

That's different. So Fox Sports is the same. I mean, we have NFL games which are simulcast from Fox Sports here as well, but we just don't have Fox News. But yeah,

I just always was presuming Because it's not fucking news. That's why. It is not news. You have a load of stupid opinions from fucking idiots. That's why. Anyway, what was I going to say to you,nie um oh yeah someone that took my eye this week earlier

this week um was an arrow was yeah took my arrow took my arrow took my eye out and was an arrow no it was the world stone skimming championship oh uh and it's one of these kind of british eccentric things and i think when i've done um Hawksbury and Jacobs on TalkSport, they always get people involved who call in and do things like the World Pea Flicking Championships. And there's that old medieval game which takes over a whole village and there's hundreds of people on each side with a big ball and they have to try and get from one village to the other.

That kind of stuff. Cheese rolling. Yeah, cheese rolling is another one. But up in Scotland Scotland they did this thing called the World Stone Skimming Championships and it takes place in this little

island off the coast of the west coast of Scotland called Easedale. The reason it caught my eye is because

I've been to Easedale and it's amazing. It is an amazing place and it was historically I think I'm right in saying it was built around the small sort of cottage industry

of a slate mine, which then collapsed. Great for skimming. Quite. Well, yeah, exactly. I don't know if you can use slate for it. I think you've got to use stones. But anyway,

and it collapsed. And so there's not that many people living there anymore, but it is beautiful. But what's happened is they do it on this steel pond in Eastdale. And now, because old slate quarries that are filled with water are obviously perfectly still right so it's an easier way to skim so you don't get affected by the waves and all the rest of it

but now apparently it's become such a big um is that you making that noise no it's uh i think somebody changing the water bottle for goodness For goodness sake. For goodness sake. It's become such a big event now, people have travelled from all over the world, that they can't find the slate quarries big

enough. So people are complaining that actually they need to take it somewhere else because there's not a big enough pond to contain

all these massive stone skimmers. You bored by that? I'm just confused. Look, here's a picture. I'll show you. Here's a picture. Because I saw a video of a guy

skimming stones who was like the Japanese champion. Has he taken on these? Look. It takes place here. Actually, this is not a really helpful video. I'll just get you a photo instead.

Get me a photo, Luke. Get you a photo instead, mate. It takes place there. See? The pond's not big enough. Just get you a photo instead. Get me a photo, Luke. Get you a photo instead, mate. It takes place there. See? Oh, yes, I get it. It's not big enough. Can they make a tunnel underneath to the second lift?

How much are they... Can they not go diagonally? What I was thinking was, there are houses there. It's quite a long... You're not throwing them up in the air. If anything, if you're throwing a stone

and it's hitting a window, you're a terrible stone skimmer. Would you like to, do you think you could find something that you could become a world champion at? However weird it is. Well, Gav from RKG, who we both know, who was at Ramble Live on Thursday, he went to, I think it was Iceland or maybe Helsinki,

and he tried to become the master at this kind of weird kind of, I can't remember what it's called, like Peggle or something. Not Peggle, but it's like a kind of board game, a little bit like Shufflepuck, a little bit like air hockey. Not Shove Haipany? Say again? Shove Haipany? No, it's a new game by a board game company sort of thing.

And he went to Helsinki. He trained and trained and trained to try and become a world master at this particular discipline. It's like Hockle or something. It's got a weird name and he tried to do it over the course of a couple of months. Tried to learn to be as good as possible and I won't tell you whether he managed it or not

but it's well worth a look at the video. I can't imagine being I played the same level of a video game called Control on Friday for about three hours and I couldn't imagine being... I played the same level of a video game called Control on Friday for about three hours, and I couldn't get through it. And it was only a side quest. I didn't need to get through it,

but I was like, no, I'm going to finish this. You get principled, don't you? That's the feeling. But I just got to... I just managed to get worse at it every time I played it, which isn't the way it should be. You should be getting better at it. There's like a... I don't have a fight in me

there's definite elements these people they invent these kind of weird things and there was genuinely one which I think was a garden pea throwing competition

and it's done at some pub down in Lewis I think in Sussex I think it was is it pea flicking I think it was pea flicking right but then the guy

who invented it was just his mates after a piss up one so they called it the world championship and then they started to hold it every year and it got bigger and bigger every year and people started to hear about it and obviously then people came along who were much better at it and then the original people get quite resentful about it and start inventing all these rules so like so one of the other stuff probably this is true there was a situation where

after a certain amount of years these guys guys came down and they were much better. But it turned out they were using frozen peas. Oh, right. Because they've got more weight. So they go further. So they're like, well, you can't use frozen peas. And it just got worse and worse. They've cocked their pea.

But in the 70s, I don't know if you've ever heard of this. This might have passed you by. And I've got a little clip of it here. There was an amazing cricketer called Fred Truman right and he was a proud Yorkshireman and he

he kind of had a it was a bit before my time but he kind of had a bit of a a media career afterwards and he was known as being like the most he's like the most Yorkshireman of all time right

and he was just this this brilliant cricketer amazing bowler took a load of took a load of um took a load of wickets and for england and the rest of it in the 70s they gave him this vehicle on like you know when all the tv stations were kind of localized so they gave him this vehicle on yorkshire tv called the indoor league where he would basically present a show pipe in hand pint of mild nice and he would go round

and they would have bar billiards shove halfpenny darts right yeah and he would present the show and they would do an update on it every Friday or Saturday night

on like Yorkshire TV he is the most amazing presenter listen to how Yorkshire he is who counts he'll be count down to 100 quid on the bus back to Durham. They'll be flowing up there now, I'll bet.

Champs of five counties at shove, ain't they? Now, we've shown you a bit of nifty Skittles playing this time, but it's note to what you'll see next week

because Skittles players come in all ages and all have individual styles. Jim Porter of Doncaster is 75 and learnt to play in the trenches during the First World War. He's basically introducing

all these different... Nice. It's all on YouTube. One of the clips, and if you're listening from the US, you probably can't understand what he's saying there,

but one of the clips... One of the clips, he introduces table football. Right, okay. And he says... Very modern. There's these lads. There's these lads here.

They claim to have never lost a game. And he goes over there and it shows them playing table football and they're just these bearded like long hair like students

it's really really funny so there's a lot of obscure sports and pastimes out there do you know what I wish we did in this country you see it in the south I think mainly in the US

the ring it's a ring on a string I don't know what they actually call the game it's like a quite a discreet hook in the corner of the room. And from the ceiling suspends a ring on a string. And you basically pull it back, release, and you've got to kind of land it into the ring.

So it kind of floats over. And going back, it obviously drags behind it. And it needs to get hooked on the ring for you to win. It's like a ring toss but it's on a string. Yeah, I think that's what you mean. And there was a meme

or possibly a viral video of a cat doing it. Cat was just grabbing all the string and just let go and it hooked on the thing. That's amazing.

But I've done it a couple of times and there's nothing more. Because it's quite graceful. Kind of the arc of the string and the ring and it hooks and it's fantastic. I wish we did that in the UK. There's nothing more. Because it's quite graceful. The arc of the string and the ring and it hooks.

It's fantastic. I wish we did that in the UK. There's a big culture in certain parts of the United States in the South of frog jumping. Right. It's just part of the folklore of some communities down there. You bring along a frog and if your frog jumps the longest, you get a

prize and Mike Calvin I did a ramble meets with is a very storied and interesting football writer and and chronicler I suppose a lot of his books were made to documentaries and stuff and he came in for ramble meets and he said for his first interview for his first journalism job back in the 70s they said I'll put together, give me 600 words on frog jumping. Obviously,

before the internet, before anything. He ended up ringing the US embassy saying, well, if you can help me, I'm looking for someone

who knows about frog jumping. He put him in touch with someone else. He put him in touch with someone else. And he found someone in the middle of nowhere in the US

and did the whole frog jumping thing. But if you're listening to this and you've got a claim to fame around some obscure sport or pastime, you should get in touch hello at lukeandpeach.com

I'd love to hear from you know the Britain's best you know buggerer ice ice lolly eating champion or something

ice lolly eating that's a real risk for like you know brain freeze the first thing you went for was buggering buggering

but it rhymed with Britain didn't it ice lolly did you when we were doing a Ramble show last week, we were... Obviously, the Portsmouth Horse Puncher era and I googled horse punching and...

Did you see the... It's not a championship, is it? I hope not. And, you know, this is going to upset a few people but, I mean, it's a little beach show. You know what you're in for. It's a rather upsetting spot but apparently

parts of I think some South Asian country I think it might be the Philippines they do in very small

obscure kind of little towns they do horse fighting two horses they get a woman horse a mare in heat and these two

horses just fight and kick the shit out of each other I've never seen anything like it it's horrible have you ever seen giraffes fighting

giraffes fight yeah they whack each other with their necks don't they imagine the power I'd love to measure the power of that they've got horns

on there yeah the pressure per square inch yeah because they've got it's a lot of it's a lot of it's lengthy and they've got a lot of, it's a lot of, it's lengthy

and they've got a lot of whip behind it. A lot of whip. It looks brutal. I've never seen it before. Beautiful. It was on some David Attenborough documentary. On that,

on that, on that measuring the power thing, there was, obviously there's a member, Ricky Hatton, who was a world championship boxer. I think, like Welter or Welter,

and he fought a guy called Costa Zoo. It's probably one of Hatton's, if not his best performance, but certainly one of Hatton's if not his best performance certainly one of his best performances and he famously kind of just crippled

the guy with a body shot into the ribs the guy for a fraction of a second left his ribs exposed and Hatton just munched him in the ribs and that was it

it was game over I think he retired on his stool at the end of the 10th round or something anyway someone was measuring just by the data

I think I suppose or by watching it or whatever the pressure per square inch in that punch, someone was measuring just by the data, I think, I suppose, or by watching it or whatever, the pressure per square inch in that punch. And he was saying, like, for the surface area

and for the power, it was like a sledgehammer. It was roughly equivalent to a sledgehammer. Hatton's always there. Broke like four of his ribs. Hatton's always there in the ring because he's a coach now,

isn't he? But he's always there in the ring when he, when like, old boxers are around. Like, he was spotted sparring with Frank Bruno, who's an incredible Nick for his age. Nigel Benn as well but he's always there in the ring when old boxers are around. He was spotted sparring with Frank Bruno who's an incredible

Nick for his age. Nigel Benn as well is back for a fight I think. Was he 50 odd? That's quite controversial that. Nigel Benn's back

at 55 and I was speaking to Adam Catterall who's a boxing expert and he was saying that he's not actually bothered about Nigel Benn having a last dance

as he calls it because he's a set of sound mind and body he's in great shape and if that Benn having a last dance, as he calls it, because he's set of sound mind and body, he's in great shape, and that's what he wants to do, that's fine. But the list of opponents

that he wanted have all said no, and so now he's fighting this guy called Saki Obika, who was like a world-level fighter about two years ago. Yeah. And he's a lot younger.

So people, I think, are a bit scared for Nigel Benn's safety. He's one of those guys, he was always one of those guys who was a bit too brave for his own good. His son's a fighter now,

a really well-respected fighter. I was reading about, put yourself together about Prince Nassim Hamed and how many, he only got like, he only lost once, didn't he?

Like people kind of, and he, and also, didn't he win, he won a belt that he'd never fought at. I couldn't really figure that out. He fought,

like he got given a championship belt for a weight that he never actually fought at. I couldn't really figure that out. He fought, like, he got given a championship belt for a weight that he never actually fought at. I didn't know that. Back in the day. I don't really know how that happens. Again, I looked at it and went, I'll store that in my brain

and I won't even go that much further on it. No, I have no idea how. I remember when he was beaten, yeah, he got beaten at the end of his career. I think he had one comeback fight after that, but he was beaten at the end by Marco Antonio Barrera. But essentially career I think he had one comeback fight after that but he was beaten at the end by Marco Antonio Barrera but essentially

I think I'm right in saying that he didn't really take training very seriously and I think towards the end of his career when he was massive I mean he believed his own

hype quite a lot he was the thing about him he's a massive now oh yeah he is yeah but back in the day mate he was unbelievably exciting

he was like a very rare sort of species of boxer where he was a genuine one-punch knockout artist. It wouldn't be like it would be accumulation of punches and he would just batter people into submission and stuff.

I mean, he obviously could do that. But he had such power for his weight division. He was a knockout artist. If he hit you on the button, you were going to sleep. And that is what counts in boxing in terms of

getting put on bums on seats and with all the glamour around him as well but I don't think the flip in the music though there used to be this brilliant podcast oh yeah that was brilliant

there used to be this boxing podcast I think it's called Boxing Clever I don't think it's around anymore and one of the guys who won that he was saying

I think he was saying that towards the end of his career Hamid he wasn't really even training he was just doing his thing and up against like a teak tough

well respected world level fighter like Barrera this tough Mexican guy he just got he just got schooled basically and after that he didn't fancy after that

that's the only thing he wanted to do after that he'd made his money he certainly had and he spent it I didn't know that something I learnt this week seconds out

yeah means the people in the corner rather than the time yeah it's not the time. Because you know where that comes from? That comes from, I think I'm right in saying,

back in the day when they used to have duels. Right. So what you would do, you would settle a debate or a dispute with a duel. You'd walk 10 paces, turn and shoot. Yeah. And- I mean, very- You've got to be really into your fucking convictions

to agree to a duel well it's how people who have seen the musical Hamilton that's how Alexander Hamilton died I mean he never became President of the United States I don't think he could have done it anyway

because I don't think he was born in the US but anyway he died quite a young man in a duel but they used to the way that it used to work is you would you would

you would take issue with something and you would arrange a duel and then you have a second who would treat with the other guy's second to see if they could work it out. And if they couldn't, it would be seconds out, and you would fire.

You'd shoot. And the seconds are now called that in boxing as well. So when it says seconds out round number 10, it means get the fuck out the ring because we're getting it on again. Because there's a very real chance you're going to die. Why would you not just draw early? Because you'd shoot him

and you win and that guy would be dead or very damaged. I think you'd be in big trouble for that and I think a lot of... Would you get shot? A lot of them on principle

used to shoot up in the air to show they were quicker and they could have done it if they wanted but they wouldn't shoot you. I mean, again, that's risky as well because if you shoot up in the air

and you get shot anyway, it's like, well, you know. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Weird. I think that might have happened to Alexander Hamilton's son, in fact. Oh. Maybe, who knows. Anyway, let's have a little break and then we'll do some emails.

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We did that last week. Look at this! I'm a big terrorist with my cat! From the same show where people get angry at Luton Airport. There was a French lady

who'd brought a cat and she shouldn't have. Look at me! I am a big terrorist with a cat! Why would'd brought a cat and she shouldn't have. Look at me, I am a big terrorist with a cat. Why would you take a cat with you? To see how big the plane is, swing it around.

Yeah. How big is the plane? You could quite literally swing a cat in there. I feel like it's sad when you have to do that, take cats like that because they get so nervous.

My cats don't like going in the car for five minutes. No. So I think there should be a humane way of travelling with them. I don't understand why there's not a part minutes. No. So I think there should be a humane way of travelling with them. I don't understand why there's not a part of the plane where you can just stick all the animals

and you can go and visit them. Generally speaking, there aren't any animals, are there? What do you mean? They're on the cargo hold, aren't they? No. Don't they get put in the pressurised cargo hold? Do they? Animals?

Yeah. What, every flight? Well, some flights. Most airlines insist that you put them, like most places, most airlines insist that you put them in the cargo hold, but the cargo hold has to be pressurised

because otherwise the animals do die. The animals do die now. They can't breathe. They can't breathe. In which case, that's two birds with one stone. Get the people

who are nervous flies in there and they can hang out with the cats. Yeah, exactly. What if you're terribly allergic though and you're a nervous fly? It's proven to relieve stress, isn't it? Having a pet and stuff. Yeah. I think so, exactly. What if you're terribly allergic, though, and you're a nervous flyer? But it's proven to relieve stress, isn't it?

Having a pet and stuff. Yeah. I think so, yeah. Stick insects. You should try, man. You should try. Hello at LukeandPete.com is the email address to get in touch with us.

Pete, have you got an email there? Actually, before we get emails, I was watching a video about a pilot for, I think, Delta, who flew from Vietnam into the US to bring back his deceased father. His deceased father had flown in Vietnam and got shot down, crashed, died, and his body's been buried on Vietnamese soil ever since.

And this pilot, on a commercial flight, flew his dad's body back 50 years after the event or something. Landed and... So he got all the relevant permissions to get him to be buried back in the U.S. Yeah, exactly. Amazing though, he knew where he was. Oh, mate.

Watching that video of him, the pilot kind of telling the passengers on the... I'm not really sure why they told the passengers, but just because if there is a body on... In most flights, there'll be a body, won't there? I don't know. Again,, won't there? No. Again, they don't need the pressure.

In your mind, they don't need the pressure, it's fine. In your mind, there's 400 animals and a dead body on every flight. Exactly. Yeah.

As there should be. But yeah, and this pilot was describing that he's flown his father back and then the core pilot obviously told the people about what this flight has meant to the pilot and stuff and I was like in fucking tears.

I was gone. You hung over? Yes, I was. Adam has come in with an email. Thank you, Adam. Really? I don't believe this for a second. Hi guys.

But why should that stop you emailing in and us reading out? It shouldn't. I thought I'd share a somewhat unusual story with you I heard a few years ago by my sister's friend at university. Never happened. She had been suffering... Oh, don't read this out.

This is bullshit. This is one of the worst apocryphal myths ever. Well, let's read it out anyway. No, it's rubbish. What do you mean? All right, read it out, but it's bollocks. Do you just want truth on this podcast? Because we've read out some absolute bollocks.

No, I want something that I can at least have a semblance of and I think it might be true in some way. She had been suffering from a sore throat, so decided to make a trip to the doctor. Upon inspection, the doctor noticed some unusual swelling in the back of her mouth. A sample was taken to run some tests to see what kind of bacterial infection had

invaded the poor girl's mouth. Returning home with some antibiotics, she sought nothing more of it until she received a phone call asking her to come into the doctor's surgery immediately. Upon her arrival, she was shocked to be greeted not only by the doctor, but also a team of police officers. This shock was nothing compared to her reaction when told that they had been called because traces of

human flesh had been found in her mouth. During questioning at the police station, they asked whether she had travelled anywhere unusual recently. It had turned out she'd just visited Budapest, and while on a night out had kissed a man at a local nightclub, which immediately aroused suspicions. After contacting Hungarian police

to try and track down the said man, it turned out he had just been arrested and charged with murder. Essentially, he had killed several people and eaten some of the remains raw. When kissing the girl at the nightclub, some of the traces of raw human flesh had been transferred to her mouth,

causing the infection. I've tried to find a link to the article of his arrest, however, I've been unable to thus far. That's surprising, isn't it? Strange, that. Perhaps cannibalism

isn't newsworthy in Hungary. However, the story is completely genuine and remains one of the maddest things I've ever heard. Right. Adam in London,

he enjoyed the ramble live last night, he said. So be careful. Temper your attitude. No, you don't have to because he's almost certainly not coming back

I have a lot of problems with this story one that springs to mind instantly is she had been kissing a random guy in a nightclub

they just found him just found him found the random man just found him yeah no problem a bloke that you kissed yeah I'll

find him no problem they probably went has any body in Hungary been arrested for cannibalism? They didn't do any of that because none of it fucking happened. Didn't do any of it.

No. Why do people make up these things, Pete? What do you mean? I'm not saying Adam made up these things. No, no, I'm not either. He's just been told it, I expect. I'm not shooting the messenger. But it's like the one where the guy says,

oh, um, it was the one where the woman goes back to a guy's house and, uh, she goes to the toilet and she ends up going for a shit, but the toilet's not working or something. I'd say that's more believable. So the guy says, I'll let yourself out when you leave. But she can't go for a shit, so she puts it in a plastic bag and she means to take it with her, but she forgets and leaves it on the side, but then she locks herself out and so she's left a turd in the room.

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bollocks. Probably happened once originally. Well, then the story but then she locks herself out and so she's left a turd in the room. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bollocks. Probably happened once originally. Well then the story works then, surely? Yeah, maybe.

I mean, the story, that actual thing happened. This didn't happen. Yeah. Because what you do as a doctor, you, what you do is

you take the biopsy, you take the thing and then you run a test for human flesh. Bearing in mind, you already assume there for human flesh bearing in mind you already assume there's human flesh in there you know what I mean exactly yeah

very weird what we should do is every show Pete we should do the emails as we normally do and we should do a made up one and people should try

and be able to guess which one it is it will be increasingly difficult thanks for getting in touch anyway Adam it's not your fault you got so angry

at the start of that I don't want to read this out this isn't true I can't want to read this out. This isn't true. Do you know why? I can't Google it on my internet. Because last night I was tired.

Right. This morning you're tired. I am. In a right old grumble. Grouchy. I was going through my prep for the shows this week

and I read that and I thought do you know what that's just wasted fucking five minutes of my life I'm going to get back. Anyway

Claude Pilot Claude has been in touch. Pilot Claude je regarde le touch. Pilot Claude, je regarde le flying bird. D'accord. Je regarde le grand helicopter. He says, hi guys,

it's a lesser known Pilot Claude. I think his name, his full name might be Claudio. So maybe he's actually Italian. I'm up in the Claudios. Yeah. Probably not. Sorry, he's actually Italian. I'm up in the Claudios. Yeah. Is he offensive? Probably not.

I'm going to Claudio. Oh, Pete, sorry, he's actually from Jamaica. Well, that doesn't reference, there's nothing Jamaican related in the sky, is there? Cloud, Claudio. It works.

I've got nothing for... Pilot Claude said he just quickly thought he'd clear up the mobile phone on a plane issue. Okay, good. Pete was right about the rule stemming from worried airlines about mobile phone technology interfering with their radio slash ATC communication.

Think of phone receiving a text next to an old amp, hi-fi kind of thing. Don't know the technicalities as to how this would have happened. As time has gone on, though, the realistic isn't a problem anymore for us. The rule could probably be scrapped although the airlines now like it as it should mean that more people pay attention to the safety briefing. Safety briefing is of course

a crucial legal requirement and covers the airlines as to a degree of something bad was to happen. I hope it clears it up. I've got a few other interesting stories that I'll get in touch with again

when the time is right. Alright, Claude. Mysterious. I think he's deep-throated. X-Files. You'll hear from me when you need to hear

from me. Just don't email us about some cannibal. Deep throat. That's where they found the flesh, guys.

It is. Yeah. So, I mean, it's rare that you read out an email that basically fortifies my opinion.

Yeah. Backs me up. I'm probably going to get pelted about my duelling knowledge earlier because all my knowledge comes

from just watching Hamilton. So it's probably all wrong anyway. Oh, I love it. You got another one there, mate? My internet's gone down. I'll level with you, mate. My internet's gone down on my tiny laptop, my tiny baby laptop.

I've got another one there anyway. Okay, then. Hang on a sec. I'm just writing that down. This is from Tom in Cheshire. He says, I'm a few episodes behind, so sorry if you've covered this ground already, but you've been talking about songs with the same titles. Okay.

A pub quiz question I remember from about 10 years ago was that The Power of Love has been number one three times, each time a different song. He said, but who were the three different artists? Well, at the time, the answer was Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Huey Lewis and the News, and the one that everyone would probably struggle with, Jennifer Rush.

I know Jennifer Rush's one. I am your lady and you are my man. Oh banger. Yeah. Proper Celine Dion vibe.

He says not necessarily the best songs with the same title but definitely chart toppers. The Frankie goes to Hollywood version and we would have been number one again since

then but the Breath of the Piano version of the Piano version of the John Lewis advert might have taken it there. He said, I don't know if any other title can boast as many number ones.

If you can think of a title of a song that's got more number ones than that then let us know. I think Frankie Goes to Hollywood The Power of Love has been number one

more than once and I'm going to check. I think it has as well, you know. Quite recently. I'm just checking, Pete checking pizza you want to just do your thing all right do you want another email yeah sure let's back up uh hello to uh richard richard ashfield i came across this while in a bar in ocean beach california it tells a story of what i think may be an original uh non-technological viral takeoff um and it's basically this this piece about the beautiful mystery of Gary Carp.

Gary Carp? Gary Carp. Right. Basically, there is a person who found a glorious headshot of what was presumably an actor in a dumpster behind someone's house, I think. And this guy's name is Gary Carp.

But this is his face. How would you describe that look? Androgynous. Androgynous, kind of big eyebrows, a lot of very dense hair, bit of a mullet, and yeah, he's clearly an actor. So this basically viral movement in the, I think, sort of late 90s, it kicked off with people printing out pictures of Gary Carp and people travelling all around the world

putting pictures of Gary Carp up. There's a picture of him nailed to a tree. That's Chichinitza there. Yeah. How did that happen though, Pete? Because people wouldn't know who he was, would they? What do you mean? So how do they replicate it?

Well, I guess in the early... I don't know how it went around, but friends gave copies of it to friends and people would copy, copy, copy and it just found its way all around the world. Pictures of Gary Carp. And I think they found the guy in the end and basically... They caught him. They caught him.

They caught him. They caught him. I mean, the scale of that is quite large, isn't it? Yeah. You finished? You are tired. Around 2000 or 2001, the real Gary Karp finally caught wind of what was going on. His wife at the time freaked out and called a detective.

Oh dear. To be honest with you, I wondered if there was a way to profit off it. I don't know if there's any way to do that. It's just kind of a joke more than anything. So there you go. It'd be annoying to be a subject of that and not be able to benefit from it yeah the gary carp movement hit its peak in 2004 with the 10-year gary retrospective aka the tygr um the kid out of the nirvana picture tried to try to sue nirvana for money which i found very well to be fair they put his little winky up there

well i mean the father and the mother were parents Parents were... Were given money for it. They sanctioned it. They second-shanked it. I can confirm that Frankie Goes to Hollywood's The Power of Love went to number one when it was released, in the sort of early to mid-'80s, and then it reissued and recharted to hit the number 10 in 1993, and then number six in 2000,

a cover version by Gabrielle Applin, went to number 1 in the UK exactly 28 years after the original single. So that sounds like an X Factor person. I think it was the advert. I think it was the John Lewis advert maybe. Oh, okay. Can't confirm or deny that,

but that's the chart history, the potted chart history of The Power of Love by Frankie Goes to Hollywood. A force from above. Cleaning my soul. Good song. Make love your goal.

Is that how we're going to end the show? Can't be non-verbal. Just shrugging. Just shrugging. Can't be non-verbal. Can't be non-verbal.

No one ever says that to me. Hello at Luke and Pete show. Come to get in touch. We'd love to hear from you

if you've got anything on the subjects we've discussed or anything different or perhaps an apocryphal tale you want to try and convince us is true or maybe you want to take a picture

of some KFC gravy because I had not seen the picture of the the guts and the glory of what was at the bottom of the tray that was sent in

by that gentleman last week or rather Monday. I've not seen it. I've not seen it. Yeah, I've kind of changed my opinion on that, to be honest. It looks pretty rough. Yeah.

Not the worst thing you've eaten this week, though, Pete. No, God, no. We'll see you on Monday. Have a lovely weekend. Come see us live, ramblelive.com. You won't regret it. It's lots of fun. We'll see you soon.

Bye-bye now. This was a Stakhanov production.