The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.59: Serotonin poppadom

Episode Date: October 7, 2019

This episode of The Luke and Pete Show begins with chat about a recent visit to Northampton to experience their intriguing town centre (Cash Converters, vaping shops, covered markets etc) and continues on with a diversity of subjects, including man caves, Pete's various ailments, the US Embassy and much, much more.There's also your emails and stories too, as ever, including one this time about the naming of exoplanets. Fascinating stuff to two ignoramuses like us. Enjoyable!To get involved: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

L money in the house P money in the house Podcast game Kanye and Jay-Z Up in here Yeah Pete's not very well He's been sick this morning Yes, repeatedly through the night

Yeah If there's any doctors listening Is there a drug that gets, chemical that gets put in your brain once you've done the last puke

in a series of pukes? What a start. Well, we do, we are listened to by doctors, but there's a beautiful kind of moment where...

They want some time off. What? They want some time off. What's that lump? Yeah, once you've finished doing the pukies your body goes

Pete this is the end of the series of 10 or 12 wretches and then a beautiful calmness comes over you

it must be like serotonin I think it probably is that but you start to sweat because you've just taken too much of the hit

I would love to isolate the drug the street drug because I trust the street Luke yeah that gives me that high without the

the puking this is not medical advice no and this is not facts from somebody who knows what they're talking about

I'm asking for medical advice but what I'm about to say I mean I'm fairly certain that's the basis for kind of antidepressants and stuff right

to balance the serotonin levels and all that kind of thing. So when you go and do something which is particularly exhilarating. Skydiving. Yeah, for example. Or, well, perhaps, depending on how well you get on. When you feel depressed a couple of days after, it's because of the rebalance, isn't it? That's why people who take ecstasy or whatever, or MDMA, the next couple of days they feel bad because

their brain's trying to readjust it. It's probably got something to do with that. But like I say, it's not official because all we do on this show, Pete, as you well know- Scrabble around our own filth. Yeah. Pretty much. And get people to email in and tell us we're wrong, which happens all the time.

And I would say you'd be surprised, but you probably wouldn't because you probably heard it. So this is the Luke and Pete show, episode 199.59. And we're very happy to be here. We are hot off, well, not hot off the press. Lukewarm off the press. Lukewarm off the press. Hot footed it back from Brighton after a Football Ramble live show last night.

That's why I'm ill because I've just had too much fun, quite frankly. I don't know how alcoholics do it. No, you're not ill because of that. I'll tell you why you're ill. Why? If you want me to give you the breakdown, I will. What's the breakdown? You eat terribly.

I don't eat terribly, but I eat terribly. You don't have a routine. Nope, that's true. You will not learn. And you think you can keep doing it, but you can't because you're going to be 40 next year or the year after. And you have to start taking some more responsible decisions with your life. I am a little tired

of people who think moralising think they know how I eat it's because I care about you the eating thing I don't understand it Pete

you came in this morning and you said I shouldn't eat a KFC followed by a fish and chips it makes me sick that was over two days though normal people can eat

those foods and I didn't eat that many chips to be honest the chips were pretty rank how many chips I probably ate 10 chips out of

the whole packet not that many chips to be honest and it was when I was grazing on the pop chips the lime the delicious

curried lime things no they were Walker Sensation poppadoms yeah I think that's what did me in

to be honest but yeah I didn't have a great night to be honest but again I was having that endorphin hit I think that's what did me in, to be honest. But yeah, I didn't have a great night, to be honest. But again, I was having that endorphin hit. I think that's got something to do with it. I think your body probably just needs a bit of recovery. I think I need a little lie down. Pete, I think I speak on behalf of the listenership here

when I say, are you giving your body and your mind what it needs? No, I'm giving my mind what it needs, which is video games and pornography everything and uh fine fiction what's the fine fiction um i just finished one book it's not fiction it wasn't fiction i know because i'm gonna be seeing you read it yeah i take so long reading books i don't have a commute so if anybody if anybody works like right around the corner from where they live, how do you read books?

How do you consume media? Because I find it very difficult to get things done. I just squeeze it in. I just squeeze it in there. Yeah, but you've got a longer commute. You've got an hour. I can get 20 minutes on a train. To be honest, though, I don't do an awful lot of my reading on the commute.

I try to put some time aside when I'm home. Right. Because what I end up doing is I end up, if I ever get into that position where I'm not working and I'm just sat down watching telly and I'm not actively watching something I've chosen to watch,

i.e. a football match or a drama series or whatever, a movie, I've got this switch in my brain which just goes, why are you doing this just read turn it off turn the telly off

because I'm also one of these people I can't really read very well if I've got a lot of stuff going on I can't read when I'm listening

to music or when there's something else happening I can't work when there's a lot of music when people have

music on when people are talking and stuff I find it quite disruptive I think I've just been alone for such a long time

I'm quite a solitary chap oh you poor boy poor little sausage little lonely boy so how's your week been Luke I mean obviously we just been alone for such a long time. I'm quite a solitary trap. Oh, you poor boy. Oh, little lonely boy. So how's your week been, Luke? I mean, obviously we've been on tour. We had a walk around. We had a lovely walk around.

What city was that? Northampton. Yeah, I was going to bring that up. Because I'll tell you what. Oh, that was a bit of a... A little bit of a... A little bit of a... I know what this is.

A little bit of the bubbly. In my life. a little bit of the bubbly in my life a little bit of the bubbly by my side a little bit of the bubbly that's all I need a little bit of the bubbly that's what I see

a little bit of the bubbly in the sun a little bit of the bubbly I have a problem with memes and Luke they stick to him like a limpet

big shouts to uh to Sanch for sending that in i couldn't believe my luck when that dropped into the inbox right but but sorry i i just do you know what happened there i thought i just know this is gonna run and run i'm gonna be hearing a little bit of the bubbly i thought fucking hell that guy he sent it in and i forgot to put it in my prep so i was like straight away find it find it play it now so don't forget what he knew so anyway thanks very much to sanch hello at lucanpeach.com to send in your memes

and all that other stuff we Pete and I found ourselves fate meant that we found ourselves in Northampton

on a Friday lunchtime slash afternoon with nothing to do for a few hours so we went out for a little walk

didn't we yeah and I and you're probably going to take this the wrong way. Okay. And I think some of our listeners are going to take it the wrong way, but I don't want them to. Right.

But when I say this, it's said with affection. I really love walking around towns with you, just looking and noticing what you're interested in. Yeah, okay. Because I find you a fascinating human being. And when I see you walking around, in this case, a provincial town centre I am obsessed with what takes your eye, what you think about it

how your brain processes it because it's completely different to me so you were fascinated by the Nokia 3210s the Nokia mobile phones the knock off mobile phones in the covered market in Northampton town and you were quite intense about it.

Well, I just, all technology being repurposed, but not really being repurposed because you can't really use those mobile phones anymore. They're unworkable. But these guys have just got it. It's in my collection now

and if someone wants to buy it, they can buy it. But another example of this would be we walked past an old building which I think dated from like 1718, it had a plaque on it saying, this is the original site of the first local newspaper in Northampton.

And you gave that probably five to ten seconds of your time, on the other hand, straight into a cash converter. Couldn't believe your life. I've never known anyone to be so passionate about going into a cash converter. I love tech. I love orphan graphics cards. known anyone to be so passionate about going into a cash i love tech i love uh i love uh orphan graphics cards yeah i love old um ipods i just love that this these machines that were coveted saw um so much back in the day that these poor chinese workers and foxconn piled them all

together um spent you know very huge amounts of care and attention because you can't really do that with machines. You have to do it physically with eyes, eyeballs and fingers. And these people took so long putting this thing together and within a year, it's on the shelves as cash converters and nobody gives a shit about it. All the while, all the precious metals pulled out of the ground

in Africa, poisoning the planet and then they're just in cash converters and nobody wants them. Apart from you. I mean, they are very expensive in there. Let's make that very clear. You weren't, don't you? But like little old CDJs and stuff we were talking about at the time as we DJed on them,

and you said, I only play vinyl. I was joking. Like a silly. I didn't actually say that. What I said was, I only ever use Technics 1210s, which is a joke, because I can't even, I can't mix, so that's a joke. What did you make of Northampton Town Centre? Did you find it any different to any other provincial town centre?

I like the fact that modern provincial town centres, we saw this in Liverpool, we also saw this in Northampton. A lot of shop, you know, a lot of shopping centres, the rent is very high. That's certainly the case in my hometown of Hartlepool. So a lot of the vestibules, a lot of the

shops are empty because they just can't find people to spend that amount of money to fill them. And again, we've seen this twice. They just put table tennis tables in there. And so like the local youths, the disaffected youths can go and play a bit of table tennis

and become really good at table tennis. They were actually very good as well. They were very good, yeah. Why haven't they got Hector Bellerin? He was brilliant. You were hanging out at the door because you wanted to school me at table tennis, even though I repeatedly said,

I'm not playing you at table tennis, Luke. This is just you wanting to show off that you're good at table tennis, and I'm terrible. You wouldn't play me when we were in Menorca either earlier in the summer. Well, because I can't play table tennis. It would be a waste of time.

I'll play you in pool, but I just can't play table tennis. It's not a thing. I'll play you at pool. You're rubbish. It's not a thing. We also went into a shop called Mankind.

Was it called Mankind? I think it might have been called Mankind, but it was men's interest. The sort of tat you'd see in a man cave. But the more I look back on that little afternoon,

the more I am impressed by how well you sniffed out any kind of gadget shop. Dang, straight away. There it is. I'm going straight in there. There's me piece of shit Crash Bandicoot figurine.

Yeah. Here's me old Commodore 64 retro gaming system. You're kind of obsessed with the massage chairs as well. Yeah, because they look a bit porny, don't they? There's something a bit perverted about it.

They sort of jerk around in a dirty kind of way. Would you ever think about changing one of your wipe-clean gaming chairs for one of those? I'd have met him at my house. He popped in and he saw my sod little grief fall out, as I mentioned. And he looked at my chair and he was like,

Oh, what's that? I was like, that's my gaming chair. And he sat down and he went, This is a wonderful chair. If you do something other than gaming it, does it kick you out of it? This is a gaming chair. Get your hand off that fly. Yeah.

No, it's, yeah, I think everyone should have gaming chairs. They're very comfortable. My wife would leave me. She would instantly leave me. Have you ever brought yourself to getting a man cave? I mean, apologies to the people who do have man caves, but I do. I'm sorry. All right, my house is one big man cave,

but I would not ever conceive of a period of time where I would have a man cave. This is very rich. Very depressing. This is very rich from you. Your whole house is like that. Well, because I live alone. That's what happens when all of your things are in a place.

And I happen to like things that, yes, would belong in a man cave. There was talk when our garden was being landscaped that I was going to have an office down the bottom of the garden, but it became prohibitively expensive. But you know me, my man-caving quotes on the bottom of the garden would just be really boring, wouldn't it? Yeah, maybe a computer, maybe a guitar. Yeah, maybe some books, that's it.

Pathetic. Maybe a book where I can have a porn mag inside the book. There was a bloke who posted pictures of his man-cave on presumably a gaming forum. Well, you talked about Reddit. There's Reddit threads. Yeah, depressing man caves. Just awful.

I don't know what. When I moved into a house, I had an office. And I was really into, you know, Jean Le Carre and Tinker Taylor. The film, the aesthetic. Do you call him Jean Le Carre then? Jean Le Carre. Jean Le Carre. and tinker taylor the film the aesthetic call them jean le car right then and i wanted like a kind of 70s kind of box files and filing cabinets and all typewriter kind of aesthetic and i kind of got there i bought like an old swedish um dresser that kind of looked like a cool kind of 70s uh desk and you know got a lovely um kind of um 1920s

russian lamp and uh i did a lovely little bit of work on it. And then I spent it with my girlfriend. And it's just kind of scattered. So now I'm living with a filing cabinet in my front room. I don't need that in my life, do I? No. No, it's heavy. You have to get rid of it.

Needlessly. Yeah. It's very hard to fly tip in the middle of Seoul. You know what you need? A little bit of the bubbly. A little bit of the bubbly. A little bit of the bubbly. One final thing on Northampton.

And we're not picking out Northampton for any particular reason. It just happens to be where we were. There was a vape shop there called Electro Mist. Which is amazing. It's just amazing. You went in and wanted to bother the lady, but I ran out because I was so embarrassed. You're scared of people. You're best friends with gadgets, aren't you?

I'm not scared of people. I don't like to bother people when they're at work because you ain't going to buy any vapes so why are you bothering them but let's do this as a thought exercise that's fair fair enough

that's one point of view from the lady's work in this point of view she doesn't know I'm not going to buy a vape she doesn't know that she can't know that that's point number one point number two you're ultimately disappointing someone

because you're not going to get a sale she stood in that shop all day you know she's probably just she just wants a chat she doesn to get a sale she stood in that shop all day you know she just wants a chat she doesn't want a chat she wants to be not bothered she wants to work hello at lukeandpetecher.com

if I walked into your shop would you want to chat with me well she's listening to Luke and Petecher they probably like half of us which is probably you because you bring the facts and admin

and the health and I bring the health yeah you're a big strong boy there was also fascinating there was also fascinating there was a vaping watch in there wasn't there it looked like an iPhone watch

what's an iPhone watch called Apple watch yeah I wasn't sure what was going on there to be honest but it's funny it's interesting to me because I saw the exact point

at which you get the whole out no your fascination with gadgets was trumped by your awkwardness around people you don't know and you still legged it

yeah I just don't want to, like, she was having a really intense competition with a vapist. There's a fucking vaping botch in here, you get back in here. Yeah, she was talking

to a vapist. A serial vapist. They were having a very intense conversation about vapes, turns out. Anyway, and that's Northampton. And that's Northampton. God bless you.

God bless you. Let's have a break, come back and we'll do some emails that won't be about Northampton, hopefully. Hmm, Might be. Own each step with Peloton. From their pop runs to walk and talks,

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Welcome back to the Luke and Pete show. I can't get on with, I cannot get on with. Who, who, like that boy will have grown up, I mean I presume it's the bloke who's doing the farts, or something, I can't figure it out. Who's doing the crisp eating? He's somewhere, swanning around the world. The secret crisp eater on that little cliff.

Crisping and farting. Crisping Mills, like doing his thing. And we don't know where he is, and I want to know that man. That would be a very underwhelming documentary but Finding Crispy Boy Oh Gimlet would do a podcast

about it Hello at Luke and Pete show of course is the email address to get in touch with us someone who's done that is Jack who says greetings

on one of your recent shows you were talking about a list of unusually named chemicals and mentioned the boring names that astronomers give to newly

discovered planets. Remember that, Pete? Kind of. Well, good. Jack says, as an astronomer who has been an author on a number of planet discovery papers, showing off, I thought I could shed some light on the reasoning behind the names.

The general convention is that planets are named according to the star they orbit, followed by a letter. The stars themselves can sometimes have names that are just long stretches of numbers, depending on the star catalogue they are part of. Hence, you end up with planets with names like HD 106315B. The general convention with regards to the lettering is that A is the star. The first planet discovered around that star is given the letter B. Subsequently, if more are discovered, they are given the letters C, D, E, and so on.

Is there a little card system for this, like in the library? Is there a Dewey Decimal System? Should be, yeah. Sounds like it. It's actually very interesting. If these planets are discovered by a survey mission, e.g. Kepler, which was a space-based telescope searching for exoplanets, the naming is sometimes slightly different.

The survey itself will often name the star, giving it a number that corresponds to the order in which the planet was identified around it. Easy, the first Kepler planet discovered would be named Kepler-1b. Oh, that's a... It's what, so a big business, just because they've got a big telescope?

Ah, yeah. Unbelievable. Capitalism in space, I'm not having it. Well, Jack should get involved in this. It should be Jack-1b. As someone who works part of the ground-based exoplanet survey, I think the reason for this is that when these planets are investigated in As someone who works part of the ground-based exoplanet survey, I think the reason for this

is that when these planets are investigated in the future, the name of the survey will live on. It's a nice bit of free publicity. It's boring, I know, but there's more than

4,000 known exoplanets and more being discovered all the time. It would be incredibly confusing, albeit more fun, if they were given funny names. Yeah, exactly.

You couldn't sort of do that. There would be no basis to it, would it? No. Yeah. By the way, the Kepler space telescope

is named after Johannes Kepler, who was an astronomer. I don't think so. It's not a corporation or a company or anything. No, but presumably,

no, but who's funding this though? Well, Kepler, it's different space agencies, right? Yeah, exactly.

So, I mean, Kepler must be, it sounds like a third party explorer. You wait until we all decamp from this planet when it dies and head to Elon Musk 1C. so Kepler must be it sounds like a third party explorer you wait until we all decamp from this planet

when it dies and head to Elon Musk 1C he's too he's too stone on bifters to care quite frankly that meme of him

having a joint on Joe Rogan is amazing his face is amazing in that he's eating vinegar yeah oh yeah yeah

Jonathan Dawes come with email hi Pete can I add you on Steam I've only got a couple of friends on there I think it's Wizard and Chips

I'm not going to talk to you on it can you talk to people on Steam I thought Steam was just a place to download games download games

and play with your friends so you can find friends to play with but I never sort of get involved I only play single player experiences on there

who emailed him with that Jonathan Dawes Johnny Dawes if you've got a gaming chair you're in gaming bro's

Gabe hello Gabe hello looking Pete long time listener first up

email in episode 199.58 we've actually got our own system for that you spoke

about Prince Nazim Hamid and wanted to share a mildly interesting anecdote concerning him My dad is a semi-retired journalist and was asked to cover one of Prince's fights in Glasgow in 1996, I believe for The Guardian The fight was at the SECC and was obviously

top of the bill, so he was told the print deadline will be pushed back for his 800 word report on the fight a proper hold the front page situation. Prince was making the first defense of his WBO featherweight title against Side Lowell in or Lowell maybe in front

of a crowd of 8,000 people and unfortunately for my dear father there wasn't much action to write about three punches to be exact. Yeah I remember that. The 22 year old knocked

out his challenge in 35 seconds though to my old man's eternal credit he did somehow manage to ring 800 words out of it. I do enjoy, we were at the US Embassy

getting our... Oh, this is a good story this year. For the US Rumble Tours, ramblestive.com, come and see us crying out loud. And there was a guy that I spotted there who was a journalist who wrote for the Times, I think at the time.

I went out with him to the first date on the Wrecking Ball Bruce Springsteen tour. I've probably told this story before, but basically we had a situation where Bruce Springsteen finished his mic check, his run through, and kneeled at the front stage and assembled something like 30 journalists. And I'm calling myself a journalist for the purposes of this story, huddled around it and basically just threw questions

at him. The problem was I obviously only had one question per journalist so I was thinking I'll go and steal everybody else's journalist question. But the problem is all of the other journalists were Italian so all they were doing was asking about his Italian American heritage. So I couldn't use that on the show.

Pointless. Absolutely pointless. But there was a... How dare they not do your work for you? I know. I know. The bloke who was there for the Times, I think it was the Times,

I can't remember his name, even if I could name him and mug him off, he asked the question... He looked very much like a rock music journalist. Yeah. He looked like a... A blokeer may have played keys in the

dolls back in the day I think he looks like he could have been in OK Go cream nah cream no way no way that cool

he was wearing flares that doesn't mean shit a lot of the time doesn't mean shit and by the way Ginger Baker passed away this week so a bit of respect

all of his pictures I was thinking teeth in the 70s were terrible British teeth in the 70s awful I would British teeth in the 70s, awful. I would recommend, sorry to interrupt, but just while we're on the subject, I would recommend heartily anyone who's not seen the amazing documentary Beware of Mr. Baker about Ginger Baker in the week that he sadly passed away.

Very, very complicated guy, very problematic guy as well, no question about that, but an amazing life and an amazing career as well. It's well worth watching. He is completely insane. I've told the story about when I went to go see that show at Film Live with a music journalist before. I think I have anyway. I haven't emailed him and I'll tell you next week or whatever, but

it's an amazing life. Very, very strangely lived and it's a good documentary to watch. Beware of Mr. sorry drummers they're mad they are yeah this Times journalist asked Bruce Springsteen

about you know how can you sing about the working class and the rust belt and stuff like that when you are a multi multi multi

multi millionaire and he's like I get asked that question every fucking tour basically he didn't say the F word but he was just clearly annoyed this man managed to get a I I think, four-page spread out of that.

And Bruce turned to me and said this with a wry smile. There was no wry smile. No. He was pissed off. He was pissed off. Yeah, but I watched him sort of during the first few songs. That's journalism, baby. Just tapping away on his laptop.

And, yeah, he managed to smash out writing mostly on his iPhone in his hotel room, amazingly. Yeah, a lot of respect for that. What on his iPhone in his hotel room amazingly. Yeah, a lot of respect for that. What were you doing in this hotel room? Just hanging out.

Yeah, it was a nice book and he managed to get a good, you know, over a thousand pages on, out of a thousand pages, over a thousand

words on sod all. Absolute gas. The US Embassy for Visas is like a fascinating place because everyone has to go through there. So we had that guy there.

We also sat opposite an actual supermodel as well, weren't we? It's not a super... You can be a model, but that means a supermodel. Supermodels are... 80s. 80s.

They are... No, no, but supermodels are like... Who's the one who's in films? Little Pixie Cut. Used to go out with St. Vincent. I would say that's a supermodel. Cara Delevingne. Yes.

I'd say that's a supermodel. Yeah, okay.ne? Yes. I'd say that's a supermodel. Yeah, okay. A model is not a supermodel. Or Bella Hadid. Yeah, who's that? Is that one of the Kardashians? Just a name I've heard. Anyway, a model.

That's your model. I get tired by modern life. Just people names I need to remember. What about this from Sean who says, But Pete specifically, just wondering if you've got a PO box or anything of the like, listening to one of the previous shows you mentioned, you love a bit of the old black pudding.

You love a bit of the pudding? And I'd like to send you over a few from Ireland. This isn't a euphemism or anything like that. I can't stress that enough. Holler at me with an address and let me blow your mind. Again, definitely not a euphemism. Blood sausage through the post. All the best.

Keep up the good work, Sean. Is the postal service really needed for that purpose? What do you mean? For one man who doesn't know another man to send him some black pudding? Does it need to be refrigerated? Good question. I'm going to say yes, actually. I'm going to say it's probably one of those things. I was thinking about this when I was drinking a

again, probably down to me being very ill, when I was drinking a Starbucks sort of latte, kind of macchiato thing, a couple of days and being in the fridge. I was drinking a Starbucks sort of latte kind of macchiato thing a couple of days and being in the fridge I was like

mmm yeah it's definitely my turn this isn't it strange for people who criticise me for having a milky tea enjoy lattes I don't enjoy them

it was just what was in the Starbucks well step at me if you've never had a latte otherwise leave my tea alone because a coffee a latte is just the same

but with coffee particularly milky so do you want the black pudding or not um yes i would like the black pudding okay we'll arrange that why haven't we got a pr box we'll arrange that we could just screen it couldn't they screen works don't give the address out on why people can send stuff yeah all right screen works if you're going to take someone's hands off it's not gonna be us is it with a bomb we don's hands off, it's not going to be us, is it? With a bomb. We didn't open it. No, exactly.

Good point, yeah. Screenworks in North London. Email us and we'll email you back with our address and you can send us black pudding. We'll eat it like we ate that space food that time. The French eat it raw. I am... Do they? Yeah, it's French though.

I was looking back through the photos on my phone the other day and there was a photo with you, with your hat off your hand, with some horrendous brown stuff on it and I was like why have I taken a photo of that and it took me about

10 minutes to remember it was space food oh yeah we've been eating space food that was gross wasn't it yeah it wasn't too bad

it tastes like a quite basic corned beef wet corned beef I've probably got one more email here do you want to do one Peter no get involved man

alright I'll do it it's this one here because I'd already got one more email here. Do you want to do one, Peter? No, get involved, man. All right, I'll do it. It's this one here. Because I'd already isolated the black pudding. Here we go. This is from Moe, who says, Hi, guys, love the show. Just thought of chiming on the cats and animals on planes topic you talked about on the last episode,

given that I have some experience with that myself. A couple of years ago, my wife and I moved from London to our hometown in Italy with our cat, Meow. And let me tell you, it's neither easy nor fun. When we asked the airline, we were told that our cat had to travel via an animal freight agency. After asking around, the cheapest offer we received was around £800. And then we read that air travel isn't great for animals, so we decided against it. So in order to get to Italy, we first took a train from London to Harwich

and then an 11-hour ferry to Hook of Holland. My wife's dad and sister met us there with the car and we drove 18 hours to Ravenna I mean the distance that we could have covered in two and a half hours by plane ended up being an almost 30 hour long trip the most interesting thing about all this is finding out my cat's EU passport was much more useful than my Egyptian passport upon our arrival based on the varying levels of scrutiny, our passports received by the Dutch border agent. Going a couple of episodes further back, the fact that T-Rex existed closer in history to us than Stegosaurus,

it's another topic we were talking about recently, reminded me of the fact that Cleopatra lived closer to our current time than she did to the building of the pyramids. Anyway, thanks again, and please bring the Rambo live to Italy. Cheers, Mo. That's quite interesting.

I don't think I'd like my cats to travel anywhere like that. Certainly not on the plane with someone else. I just feel that would be awful. Yeah.

Could you disguise a cat as something else? Like a support dog or something? I'm only speaking on behalf of my cats and I'm a terrible, pathetic pet owner

because I just love them so much. They would just be so scared, and I'd feel so bad about it. Yeah, but they've got to get somewhere. If they've got to be somewhere, if they've got business, that's up to them.

How do they get on their business trips? Give them a little cat volume. I'd love to see a cat in a ball of hat, and a stick. They probably do a lot of their business via Skype these days, via FaceTime. I thought I was looking for a pun there, but there's nothing. I was trying to think of a pun, but I couldn't think of one.

Good. With that crashing end to that email, what do you think about the Cleopatra thing? What was the Cleopatra thing? We weren't even fucking listening, were you? I was thinking about how useful our passports used to be before Brexit, because it used to be one of the most powerful passports. And now... Try and stay in the room.

I am staying in the room. All right. I'm thinking of the passports. According to Moe, who's Egyptian, Cleopatra lived closer to our current time than she did to the building of the pyramid. Okay, right. So, giving it a big licks there, he's put about three thoughts per email there. It's not real, is it?

I can only kind of... Moe, next time do it on a separate email with a different subject so Pete can keep up. We want a bit about the Egyptians more. Yeah. We want a bit about the passport and then we want a bit about the cats. Yeah. I'm not a cat guy, so cats, you know, I'll switch. I'm allowed to switch off with those ones.

Give me some dog emails. I'm there. Yeah, I'm the cat side of the fence, Pete. The dog side of the fence. And we fight like cats and dogs. I do like dogs as well, though. Anyway, let's get out of here. Pete's the dog side of the fence and we fight like cats and dogs I do like dogs as well though anyway let's get

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