The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.60: Spooky Siri

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

Welcome back to The Luke and Pete Show! Happy Thursday! Before we head off on the latest leg of our theatre tour with Football Ramble Live (tickets at http://ramblelive.com), we take time to hear... of a man who got upset that he failed his driving test and so sped off before anyone could stop him, we find out if cryptocurrency can turn you gay (clue: it can't), and we welcome the return of the great Chris Morris.There's your emails too, including one about the inner machinations of Amazon Alexa which is not to be missed. Are 'they' listening in to us? You bet your butts they are. Frightening.For emails, it's: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com ***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Last night, an e-bike saved my life. Ooh, tell us more. That's one of the news stories on the BBC website. Cycling is just a hobby to many, but many others, the battery power of an e-bike has transformed their lives. It's true, I guess that's true. People with limited mobility, they've probably never thought that they could, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:29 their main form of transport could be a bicycle, but with the batteries and lithium ions, beautiful, get them legs piston pumping. Get yourself a new emperor battery in there or a new panda or a alkalisk in there or a new panda or a alcalisk
Starting point is 00:00:46 alcalisk in there you're away it's funny you mention that because last on Monday we talked about Ginger Baker didn't we and he sadly passed away
Starting point is 00:00:53 drummer of Cream this is Luke and Pete show by the way I'm Luke this is Pete and Ginger Baker I'm led to believe became came quite close to becoming
Starting point is 00:01:01 a cyclist he was almost a cyclist yeah I think he got kind of axed it in his teenage years right which meant that he didn't want to do it anymore he's quite tall and litheist. Yeah, I think he got into an accident in his teenage years, which meant that he didn't want to do it anymore. He's quite tall and lithe, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:01:07 So I think he'd have the power, I reckon. He's also fond of the drugs. Yeah, he's getting in for the pop belgians. So he started drumming instead. And we didn't get a chance to talk about it because we mentioned it just as an addendum on Monday's show. But I mean, the volatility of Ginger Baker, Jack Bruce, and Eric Clapton in Cream,
Starting point is 00:01:26 this seminal 60s kind of outfit who played, famously played, put together some amazing albums in like a couple of years and then just split up. But they would be like properly fighting at one point in the middle of a, in the middle of a, I mean, this is the thing, right? I know, you know, sometimes you don't want to be old manny about it, but a lot of time people say
Starting point is 00:01:46 you know it's a bit it's a bit sanitized these days it's all kind of music industry's kind of it is what it is it's about fronting up
Starting point is 00:01:53 doing your press interviews doing your bit playing the game like clearly it was much more like the Wild West back in the 60s for example and there's talk of the
Starting point is 00:02:01 and I think it might be covered in that film I recommend Beware of Mr. Baker during a Jack Bruce bass solo Ginger Baker got so bored that he just started smacking his snare drum with his stick
Starting point is 00:02:19 then threw the stick at Jack Bruce's head so Jack Bruce got his bass and smashed the shit out of the kit and tried to hit him over the head with it and the concert just fell to pieces and they just fucking left. I mean, that's proper. That's what you want, isn't it? Well, not if you've paid your money. I think
Starting point is 00:02:35 people are a bit more demanding about the professionalism of their rock stars nowadays. And if I haven't told the story... I'm straight off to the Viagogo website, they'd say. Yeah, exactly. The bassist's just trying to attack the drummer. I'm straight off to the Viagogo website, they'd say. Yeah, exactly. The bassist's just trying to attack the drummer. I'll be leaving a two-star review.
Starting point is 00:02:48 But if I didn't get a chance to tell the story on Monday and I haven't told it before, I just... Apologies if I have said it before, but very, very quickly, I'll just say it again. I went to go and see
Starting point is 00:02:55 that documentary film, Beware of Mr. Baker, and it was a... I went with my mate Tommy, and it was a showcase. He just advanced tickets. He just bought tickets. And it was it was a showcase advanced tickets, we just bought tickets and it was featuring Ginger Baker and a music
Starting point is 00:03:10 journalist called Michael Hann doing a question and answer session after the film so they showed the film and then Ginger Baker came out, everyone cheered maybe he was very frail even then, it was about 10 years ago and they started asking him questions but Ginger Baker was the most
Starting point is 00:03:25 objectionable man he just didn't want to be there oh yeah I do I do recall this it was quite famous it was on the BBC website wasn't it
Starting point is 00:03:31 the worst interview ever but the interviewer dealt with it quite badly in my opinion but anyway just descended into him just saying alright just tell me
Starting point is 00:03:38 the name of a drummer and I'll tell you whether I rate him or not and that was the interview I like that I thought it was brilliant I was absolutely loving it it's like those
Starting point is 00:03:44 wrestling spot interviews where people they just have a list of names they go and that was the interview I like that I thought it was brilliant I was absolutely loving it it's like those wrestling spot interviews where people they just have a list of names they go is he a dick dick or not dick
Starting point is 00:03:51 and they go dick dick everyone's a dick everyone's always a dick the opening scene of Beware Mr Baker involves Ginger Baker
Starting point is 00:03:57 breaking the filmmaker's nose with his walking stick he's one of those guys frail old but just mentally hard he was on didn't he he was in all kinds of trouble
Starting point is 00:04:08 about 10 years ago wasn't he he was like at Death Star then he sort of came back he got well into the heroin he lived to the age of 80 so good on him
Starting point is 00:04:15 well that's what I always think about the you know that wasn't an amazing innings when a rock star dies quite young I mean
Starting point is 00:04:22 I picked like Tom Petty or something how old was Petty I think he's just approached the 60s I think maybe right
Starting point is 00:04:28 he wasn't old old old anyway but you sort of think the amount of fun those guys had yeah if I've ever
Starting point is 00:04:36 overindulged in anything I sort of thought that's knocked five years off at least I think Ginger Baker died quite I don't
Starting point is 00:04:42 think he was very wealthy or anything I think he had made some quite poor decisions but he was he's mad anything. I think he had made some quite poor decisions. But he was. He's mad. Didn't care.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, God rest him. His contribution to popular music will never be forgotten. Some amazing stuff. And this is really interesting stuff as well. A lot of jazz stuff,
Starting point is 00:04:56 a lot of kind of Afro beat. Went to live with Fela Kuti for a while. Did his own sort of jazz kind of project. Interesting. Interesting stuff. And put up with Clapton. Followed the music. Yeah, well, quite, exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah, so what's been going on? We're just more tours, really? Just bits and bobs are off to Barmah tonight? Yeah, we are. I was quite interested in this story which came out of the BBC website. A man was stopped by police who essentially got so upset
Starting point is 00:05:24 that he failed his driving test that he just drove off. Oh, what? He ripped the L plates off his car and just drove off. And he got about five miles down the road and the police pulled him over. And here's the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:05:38 Here is the thing. That's quite funny because he's had a tantrum. He's probably a young man and we've all been there. We haven't all done this specifically, but a couple of things caught my eye. One, he's driving a peach coloured Mini
Starting point is 00:05:48 which is quite funny. Yeah. And two, the prevalence of different police services on Twitter is, I find quite interesting. What do you mean? Well, police
Starting point is 00:06:04 are there ultimately to prevent crime and to stop crime, right? Yes. And to arrest people for committing crimes or the rest of it. And the community outreach thing is important.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I understand that. It's a big part of it, particularly in London, all the problems we have here. I get that. But when they tweet stuff out like this, on the A50,
Starting point is 00:06:18 bloke fails his driving test in Derby, throws his teddy out of the pram, rips his L plates off, jumps in the car and drives away. Stopped, vehicle recovered,
Starting point is 00:06:27 reported to court, hashtag seized. It's like, he's showing off there. He should be doing that. Show button, a man who's clearly having a difficult day. Community outreach is one thing, it's important to show people what you're doing, how their hard-earned tax money's being spent, etc, etc. Don't be taking a piss out of people for committing crimes or making mistakes, because you end up looking like a prick.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And people think, to be honest, people sometimes fairly think the police are pricks anyway. It's not a good look, I don't think. So Derbyshire Roads Policing Unit, think again. Agree. You wouldn't get on one of those, you know, those motorway cop shows. Whoever tweeted that. But they would.
Starting point is 00:06:57 That's part of the problem. What? They would. They all want to be celebs. Have you ever seen Road Wars? They've all got like nicknames and they've got little mascots and stuff. I just don't know if that's the right thing to be doing. No, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:07:07 It's still a funny story, though, isn't it? It's not a performance. I was watching a clip yesterday of a bloke from Liverpool getting arrested on the strip in Las Vegas and he is pissed. I don't think I've ever encountered a man quite so drunk.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Why was he pissed? What have you been doing? He's just been out and about. He was top. Why was he pissed? What have he been doing? He's just been out and about. He was top... Why was he pissed, Pete? Because he'd been drinking. A little bit of the bubbly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I think a lot of it, the bubbly. He was completely... He was topless, just wearing a pair of swimming shorts, and he was just trying to get back to his hotel. It was during the day. He didn't know where he was. And he's going,
Starting point is 00:07:42 going, yeah, we saw you over there sir and he's gone i wasn't camouflaged you couldn't see me he's just absolutely wazzed what happened to him quite i think they were surprised at how jovial he was and how um you know he wasn't the one saying fuck off fuck the police because he was just pissed and he was scared he's gonna get arrested you can't muck around with you can't muck around with the Americans. You can't muck around with the Americans. No way, Jose. They will draw a bead on you. What are you expecting from Bournemouth tonight, Pete?
Starting point is 00:08:08 I... You've been to Bournemouth before. Have I been to Bournemouth before? I think I was going to go out in Bournemouth because my friend lives in Hotsmouth or he lives in Gosport, rather.
Starting point is 00:08:18 That's where I'm from. So it's not a million miles away from there. It's quite far away. Is it? How many miles? I can remember the only times we ever
Starting point is 00:08:25 went out in Bournemouth when I was growing up was when someone put on like a special like minibus to go to Opera House which was the big nightclub in Bournemouth
Starting point is 00:08:32 Opera House it was fucking terrible I hated it at the time but I pretended I liked it it was not a little indie room for you it was quote
Starting point is 00:08:39 it was quote cool there were girls there which I liked but they didn't like me so that was pointless and you'd end up what would happen was it's probably about
Starting point is 00:08:47 I mean I'll just double check but I'm pretty sure it's I think it's at least an hour drive right I think let me just check
Starting point is 00:08:55 give me a sec I'll just check and I'll give you a better indication of how tedious it was so it is an hour and 15 yeah
Starting point is 00:09:04 right and if you're on a minibus, it probably takes a little bit longer. So it's 55 miles-ish from Gosport to Bournemouth. It's not close. Yeah, but are you doing this
Starting point is 00:09:10 on the website that tells you during the day, it's going to be traffic. During the night, when you're pissed, at 1am, probably less traffic.
Starting point is 00:09:17 No, but my point is, my point is, you go to a, what you would do is you would go to a pub, and, obviously,
Starting point is 00:09:25 it's before the internet and before Uber and all this kind of crap, and before you had any money. you would go to a pub and obviously it's before the internet and before Uber and all this kind of crap and before you had any money so you go to the pub and someone would say oh by the way put a minibus on to Opera House in Bournemouth
Starting point is 00:09:32 and for 20 quid you can get in and you get your minibus there and that so you go to the pub for seven have a couple of beers get into the minibus
Starting point is 00:09:41 at eight and it would drive you the hour and however long it was to Bournemouth and you'd be at a nightclub at nine o'clock no no no because you get to Bournemouth and you have a couple of beers in the pub there and you go into the minibus at 8 and it would drive you the hour and however long it was to Bournemouth and you'd be at a nightclub at 9 o'clock no no no because you get to Bournemouth
Starting point is 00:09:46 and you have a couple of beers in the pub there and you go into the opera house about 10.30 but the problem is wristband yeah cool
Starting point is 00:09:52 but the minibus back for no other option so if you're having like a shit time or you don't want to be there you've not been there before and you think it's not really for me
Starting point is 00:10:01 good luck you're stuck in Bournemouth for six hours and you can't get back that's a stinker that isn't it and you didn't even have like mobile me, good luck. You're stuck in Bournemouth Township for six hours and you can't get back. That's a stinker, that, isn't it? And you didn't even have mobile phones or anything then, really, to do anything.
Starting point is 00:10:09 So that's my kind of memory of going out for nights out in Bournemouth. But the last time I went there it was very, very stag and Hindu orientated. Oh, okay, right. Yeah, it's weird little pockets.
Starting point is 00:10:18 That's a good thing. It's not a good thing. No, I wasn't saying it was a good thing. I was just saying, oh, interesting. I went there for a stag weekend because we were supposed to go to Amsterdam but then the older
Starting point is 00:10:26 Icelandic volcano scuppered us I hate Iceland I hate Iceland I hate Iceland and so that's the last time I was there yeah that's the last time I was there bomber for a stag do
Starting point is 00:10:34 Lukey Moa like it not a lot you're excited are you yeah I'm going to join a Hindu you were a bit ill earlier in the week are you going to learn your lesson no god no
Starting point is 00:10:43 that wouldn't be me I'll be dead by November. After the American show. That's my favourite Wyclef Jean song, Matt. What? That's my favourite Wyclef Jean song. I'll be dead by November.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I'll be dead by November. He's not, he's by any. What's he done? Charity. Remember, it's charity for... What's the country he comes from? Haiti. Haiti.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Sorry, Haiti. He, yeah, his charity, obviously he's a big Haiti sorry he yeah his charity obviously he's a big lightning rod for because he's a notable
Starting point is 00:11:11 Haitian he they didn't they gave like a minimal amount of money they raised millions but gave a derisory amount
Starting point is 00:11:19 to the actual people of Haiti sounds like a Trump charity it does sound like a Trump charity Trump charity confirmed to have bought with some of the donations a massive portrait of Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:11:29 it's fucking unbelievable would you although it isn't unbelievable would any same yeah but presumably those charitable donations are it's just for
Starting point is 00:11:37 idiots really who know what they're going to get out of it and it ain't you know goodwill they know that money's going to Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:11:44 they know that money that guy at best it's a tax write off isn't it yeah massively yeah I found the story know what they're going to get out of it and it ain't goodwill. They know that money's going to Donald Trump. They know that money's... At best, it's a tax write-off, isn't it? Yeah, massively. I found the story, which I found quite fascinating. I don't know much about it, but I'll just put it out there.
Starting point is 00:11:53 There's a village in northeast India called Kongtong, which has a tradition that's been going about for hundreds of years where every time a baby is born, it's given a song by its mother for a name. So instead of having a name, it's got like a short little song.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Ah, what's your name? Yeah. Searching for the cities of gold. Donaldson. My name is... So call me maybe... More. But yeah, apparently people aren't using the names anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:26 They're resorting to kind of outside names, sort of shortening names. People are fearing the tradition's going to be lost. Well, it's difficult, isn't it? I mean, the internet has made everything very small. And we've all got to kind of get on, haven't we? But it's a lovely idea. I've heard you say that before.
Starting point is 00:12:40 We've all just got to get on, guys. We have indeed. I thought that was a nice little story. That's a lovely story. Pete, let's take a little break. Yes. A little breaksicle, and then we'll come
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Starting point is 00:13:44 A little bit of Lebon-y. A little bit of this stab what's his name Sam Lebon little bit of Lebon here little bit of Lebon here hello at lukeandpeatshow.com is the place to email in oh baby
Starting point is 00:13:51 have you got one Pete yes I have hello to Paul Harvey greetings from an expat residing in the sporting
Starting point is 00:13:58 capital of the world Melbourne saw the below spot some time ago and your latest show mentioning potential spots for me to become a world champion.
Starting point is 00:14:07 That led me to think of this. Basically, it's an interesting little sport. My computer will allow me to click on the bloody link. Trugor, a bizarre sport unique to Melbourne. It's a mix of croquet, golf, lawn balls and the hammer. Wow, this is like this thing
Starting point is 00:14:22 we were talking about before. We should find a sport that Pete, you or I could be really successful this thing we were talking about before we should find a sport that Pete you or I could be really successful at we were talking about pea flicking weren't we before
Starting point is 00:14:30 I'm very much a part time member of the Yarraville Trugo club and I haven't played an official game for them yet I probably never will
Starting point is 00:14:35 as I live nearly 8,000 miles from the ground but I wear my canary yellow team shirt with pride as I arrive so yeah these guys just have this
Starting point is 00:14:43 kind of game I think you've got to fire it through sticks. The current world champion, says Paul, is a bloke who just turned up an intrude, Aussie style, had a crack. What, and he won? And he won.
Starting point is 00:14:56 He's a future world champion. Like that guy, that ultramarathon in Australia with his work boots on. Remember that story? Oh, that rings a bell, yeah. He was like an old guy. He was 50s. He topped his ultramarathon
Starting point is 00:15:04 and he didn't really know what he was getting in for. He didn't know you could stop to sleep and he just ran for like 55 hours in his work boots and won it. Lovely. It's great stuff. Lovely old job.
Starting point is 00:15:12 It feels like Australia's maybe one of the only countries you can still do that kind of thing in. Well, you've got to keep running from the spiders. Well, true, exactly. Everything you touch there kills you. What about this from...
Starting point is 00:15:22 Oh, this is anonymous. It's probably best that I read it out, Pete. You'll like this, though. He actually starts the email by saying, this is kind of boring, so you won't read this out. Well, hang on a minute, mate. We'll be the arbiters of what's boring and what isn't. And he says, please don't use my name or the company name, because
Starting point is 00:15:37 I've signed an NDA, but I was listening to your last episode about Samuel L. Jackson doing the Amazon voice. I'm a sound engineer in Berlin. Ah. What do you think he looks like? David Bowie. Cardigan, glasses. Yeah. Bow tie. Really? No, not bow tie. He'd have a cardigan on though.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah. He'd be off to the Burgeen every night. Get some new sounds. Yeah. Is that where they make them? Yeah. Is that where all new sounds come from? I'm not very well, Luke. You've got to push through that. You know that Kraftwerk, they used to have this thing where they were so obsessed with sound that they refused to have the phone ring in their studio. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:19 So they didn't want it to pollute the sound they were making and stuff, right? And that became particularly problematic when it came to doing press interviews. Yes. Because they'd always be in the studio. I mean, people who don't know a craft booker, you can look them up, but suffice to say, they're a bit weird.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Otters. Yeah. They used to have a phone, but they disabled the ringer. So they're late. No, no, no, they didn't have a light. What they would say is, yes, you can do a press interview with us.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Please call us at 2.25pm. And someone would be there to pick it up. Well, and they would just is, yes, you can do a press interview with us. Please call us at 2.25pm. And someone would be there to pick it up. Well, and they would just pick up the phone at 2.25pm. And just talk to whoever. And if someone was there, they would get it. If not, you'd missed your chance. I love it. Imagine if we had that.
Starting point is 00:16:56 No one would know we were. I've got a lot of time for that. Isn't it Robert Smith who only answers emails or looks at his emails two days a week? Right. That's a great rule. I know people at Capital Radio who used to work with did that. It was you.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah. Did I tell you about the time I emailed around from the director's email address? No. Inviting everyone to a barbecue at his house.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Oh yes, I think you did, yeah. Dags. I didn't get fired for that. Yeah, because you were friends with dags. So that works. That's the moral. Become friends with your boss
Starting point is 00:17:25 and you'll never work another day in your life. He was great to me. He took me back into the office after I got married on it for my other job and went up to someone
Starting point is 00:17:32 and just said, find him something to do, please. It was great. I was there for like a year. I like that. Didn't get paid. Good block.
Starting point is 00:17:38 No, I did. I did. I did. What was I going to say? Oh, yeah. So, sound engineer in Berlin and he said,
Starting point is 00:17:44 last year I had to record a voice for a device that a certain company are planning to bring to market next year. A device? A device, which is essentially like Alexa, but for their particular customers. He says, we work with a company who specialise in speech-to-text recording. Okay. Basically, you get about 3,000 to 4,000 script prompts,
Starting point is 00:18:06 which require about 60 hours of recording. Bro. As English, they are predominantly bullshit. For example, the apple is trained to decipher the ankle, but they basically contain all the possible phonetic combinations in English. Hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:19 From there, it's simply a case of running every prompt through something akin to a spectral analyser. Yeah. So it can recognise all the wave patterns of each phonetic element. You'd have to be very careful about not running one sound into another.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You'd have to be very careful at how you pronounced things. The diction would have to be pretty... You and I would be fucked. And he said after that, you simply have to write a text script which can then reconstruct any word based on the phonetic construction.
Starting point is 00:18:44 And in theory, you can get the voice to say anything even if it wasn't recorded saying exactly that yeah basically given the right script as long as the recording is consistent
Starting point is 00:18:51 between 60 to 80 hours of recording are required to effectively synthesize someone's voice to the point where it sounds natural when they say any sentence
Starting point is 00:19:00 in English that's how it works yeah lovely old job many you like that sort of stuff don't you Pete well I kind of figured that was how it works. Yeah, lovely old job. Many... You like that sort of stuff, don't you, Pete? Well, I kind of figured
Starting point is 00:19:07 that was how it was working, but you'd still have to spend a long time doing different phrases and stuff, wouldn't you? To get down. For me, it's less... For me,
Starting point is 00:19:18 the side of it that I'm more interested in, and I probably didn't make this clear when we talked about it a couple of weeks ago, I'm less interested in that and more interested in how it recognizes what I'm saying or what you're saying
Starting point is 00:19:30 and how it implements that. Right. Because people speak in a variety of different ways and a variety of different accents. And so, for example, the software just must be unbelievable because if you, say you decide you want to move to Italy
Starting point is 00:19:44 and you take your Alexa with you that's fine but if you want to buy an Alexa when you're there I mean is it set up for English? No because it's all be down to your account so I mean those Alexas are just basically a microphone and an internet connection it doesn't do any processing in the box itself it sends it to a much powerful
Starting point is 00:19:59 a much more powerful computer Via the wifi? Yeah so you know it'll send it to one of those Google kind of Amazon-y kind of but it still needs to be able to understand and implement hundreds of different languages
Starting point is 00:20:10 yeah so I mean or it's just limited by language I don't really know how fundamentally I don't understand how Chinese people understand each other
Starting point is 00:20:19 you know Cantonese, Mandarin all of the tonal languages I because it just seems to be optional sometimes when people speak. But do they have, do they have voice activated devices?
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah, they all are. Yeah. And it's all perfect. All perfectly done. Because, because someone was saying, because I remember a while back,
Starting point is 00:20:35 there was this, this kind of sort of prevailing wisdom that, well, what you want to do is you want to start teaching Mandarin in schools and not Spanish, because Mandarin is the language of the future and all the rest of it. But then someone else said, well, hang on a minute,
Starting point is 00:20:49 it's so nuanced and so different and you'll get people in different parts of China who don't understand certain other parts of Mandarin because they're in a different place and the tonality is different and very subtle changes can make it very, very different. It's almost impossible. There's no point even trying.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Well, I mean, you can learn it, but I mean, it's... You can learn it to a proper level, though, right? Say again? Could you learn Mandarin to a proper level if you hadn't lived there for years? Well, I think learning a language outside of the country makes it difficult
Starting point is 00:21:15 wherever you are, isn't it? I mean, I would say it's nigh on impossible to learn a language like that without submerging yourself into it. And even if you learn Mandarin, Chinatown, round the corner from me, they're all Cantonese speakers. Are they? Why is that?
Starting point is 00:21:31 I think that's the choice of... I think the people, expats, Chinese expats, I suppose, I'm fairly certain there's a lot of Cantonese speakers in those. I don't know why, but I'm fairly certain. So you're basically saying your efforts to learn Japanese are like a fool's errand then? Well, it's a fool's errand
Starting point is 00:21:51 in that I don't live there, so it's not, I'll never be able to get good at it, really. I mean, you know, again,
Starting point is 00:21:57 and I'm also very, very lazy, but I'm very interested in it. I find the whole thing very fascinating where the words come from and the language that are obsessed with wordplay and onomatopoeia and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I find that side of things very, very interesting. But it's quite interesting as well how, an example, Alexa or whatever the variation they have in China would work based on a language that is so tonal. Yeah. It'd be more difficult, but apparently they work fine. But again, it's just all about
Starting point is 00:22:26 training an algorithm, all about training the artificial intelligence. So it gets better as it goes on. That's why, you know, Amazon and all those companies and Google are in trouble for recording audio
Starting point is 00:22:35 and sending it back to the lab just to, you know, because they just need more data, more and more and more data. The bigger the sample size, the better the results you get, isn't it? Are they listening to us now?
Starting point is 00:22:44 Well, this will live this will live on I mean I've got no doubt in my mind that certain parts of the deep thinking computers
Starting point is 00:22:52 will be training themselves on things like podcasts but I guess at the end you have to figure out what we're actually saying in the first place I think the computer
Starting point is 00:23:00 would come to us and go well they can probably understand your voice but mine is a little more complex. If you and I are having a conversation, not on a podcast,
Starting point is 00:23:08 and there's a phone in the room that's on, can that listen to us? It can listen to us. I mean, any bloke who works, bloke or madame, who works in bloke or madame, who works in national security will say, a phone is literally a microphone,
Starting point is 00:23:22 if it needs to be. And a smart TV as well? Yeah, all those, all those. But most companies' best practice will not have them uploading everything. And to be honest, what are you really broadcasting in your house? Which is kind of interesting
Starting point is 00:23:36 because it's about permission, right? It's about the things like if I chat to my wife about potentially having a new bathroom or something I might want a new bathroom but if I'm being
Starting point is 00:23:49 bombarded with adverts because they've heard what I've said that's a massive breach of privacy yeah but I mean we all get our new products and we're really excited
Starting point is 00:23:56 about them and we click through all our T&Cs all our T&Cs that say look we are allowed to do this and allowed to do that click click click
Starting point is 00:24:02 and we just click through oh I never even read it yeah exactly there's a great let me sketch about it's like being. Oh, I'll never even read it. Yeah, exactly. That one does. There's a great Limmy sketch about that. It's like being back at school. I've said it already, but I haven't. It's a great Limmy sketch where they're about to break for the weekend
Starting point is 00:24:13 and they're going out for a club and having a drink. And they're like, oh, get some tunes on Limmy. And he's like, yeah, cool. And he's like, I need to install an MP3 player on my computer. And he goes and installs and there's this big, you know, T's and C's. And he's like, I need to install an MP3 player on my computer. And he goes and installs
Starting point is 00:24:25 and there's this big, you know, T's and C's. And he's like, oh gosh, they've read this. I'll just print it out. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:24:31 And he's just, he spends the whole weekend worrying about these T's and C's. He's got like a solicitor and stuff and his wife's like going to leave him because he's so distracted.
Starting point is 00:24:40 That's what we would take for you to actually read it and understand it. Yeah, there's no, you know, some companies in the past have like put little prizes in their T's and understand it yeah there's no you know some some companies in the past have like put little prizes in their T's and C's
Starting point is 00:24:47 if someone you know it'll say like ring this number and you win a prize and there'll only be ever one or two people applying for the prize because they're the only people
Starting point is 00:24:54 who've bloody read them it's mad madness it is mad madness the modern world let's do one more email very quickly
Starting point is 00:24:59 this is from Varsh who says hi guys I was reading at work today and the reason I include this piece because I think you've mentioned this to me as well.
Starting point is 00:25:07 There's a guy who is suing Apple because he's claiming an iPhone app turned him gay. Got a lot of time for this one
Starting point is 00:25:15 to be honest. He says it comes after an incident involving gay coin cryptocurrency a suing Apple for £12,000 because
Starting point is 00:25:24 What's the large amount run money? I mean it's kind of difficult to get to the bottom of this He wanted to buy Oh my god
Starting point is 00:25:36 Siri is listening to us Oh my god What are the chances of that? Turn it off Hang on How do I turn Siri on? Siri
Starting point is 00:25:44 How do I turn Siri on? What? How do I turn Siri on? What? That is so weird after we had that conversation. Right, turn. Siri? Hey, Siri. Can Bitcoin turn you gay? Okay. I found this on the web for can Bitcoin turn you gay?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Can Bitcoin turn you gay can bitcoin turn you gay alright he filed this he filed this lawsuit on my birthday as well oh 20th of September happy birthday
Starting point is 00:26:12 and he said I mean the quotes are amazing the quotes are amazing he's bought some bitcoin he's been given a different kind of bitcoin which is interest bitcoin
Starting point is 00:26:20 some kind of cryptocurrency um the lover the willy or the boob depending on if you are a man or a woman yeah is that daniel farca the gay coin cryptocurrency arrived with a note saying don't judge until you try i i thought how can i judge something without trying yeah i decided to try same-sex relationships now i have a boyfriend and i don't know how to explain this to my parents he's very suggestible this chap isn't he I'll tell you what
Starting point is 00:26:45 she'll advertise a new bathroom to him down the phone if you have his hand in his pocket before he can say anything well maybe thank you very much
Starting point is 00:26:53 to Varsh for sending that in I just like that he's clearly been caught doing something and he's just trying to style it out in the most public forum possible
Starting point is 00:27:01 you cannot move for American gay conversion preachers coming out as gay. Oh, yeah, because they get caught with hands in the till. Slash bum. That's what they do. They go, what's the name of the preacher?
Starting point is 00:27:18 I forget his name now. Oh, it's annoying. He's quite a famous one. The best ever example of this was he had essentially made a fortune in a mega church for
Starting point is 00:27:29 and you know depending on your outlook you could make a decent argument I think to say that he was he was ruining people's lives I mean he was
Starting point is 00:27:37 he was judging people making them feel awful for their sexuality and using you know his faith or what he thought was his faith
Starting point is 00:27:44 to essentially judge and be awful to gay people everywhere caught in a hotel room with a load of crack and a gay prostitute look then listen to this though then guess what god can't penetrate motel walls but guess guess what happened after that pete he owned it so that was a crisis of his faith yeah and he got even more donations love it more. More crack, more bum. He turned it around. More bum crack. I'm trying to think of his name.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Love it. What was his name? I can't remember. I think he was called Ted but I'm just getting Ted DiBiase up in there. That's how he got
Starting point is 00:28:16 all the money. Yeah. He did nothing to Virgil. So this guy is obviously going through a few issues of his own. Wish him all the best but that is a funny story
Starting point is 00:28:24 and we can't ignore that on a Luke and Pete show. I never get tired of men, and it is usually men, because we're stupid, just embarrassing themselves in a public forum for little or no recompense. Which is a Luke and Pete show. Exactly. Debase ourselves.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Ted debase-y-ass-y ourselves in front of a being crowd. Just so you know, you can love feminism, love women, without hating men. You know that. What do you mean? You don't have to say all men are stupid. We are stupid. All of the stupid stories are men. Yeah. So, yeah, we are. We're dreamers.
Starting point is 00:28:58 We're thinkers. We're makers. We're not the only ones. We're not the only ones. Alright, on that bombshell, let's get out of here. Oh, by the way, before we get out of here, before you press that button, big, big shout out to Chris Morris coming back. You see that? He did a really interesting, quite long-form interview
Starting point is 00:29:13 on, I think, Channel 4 News with Jon Snow. Jon Snow. 15 to 20 minutes. Comedy genius, Chris Morris. Amazing social, political commentator. I love him. Love all his work, pretty much. He's got a new film coming out i can't remember what it's called but the interview with him look it up we'll try and share it on the luke and pete show twitter um about the um the role of satire in what is a
Starting point is 00:29:34 mental age we live in now he's got some really interesting thoughts on it and i was really well john snow had one question and just repeated it constantly i don't think john snow knew how to deal with it because morris is a brain as well isn't it but yeah that's worth checking out before we go just point that out and if you ever want to see him he's
Starting point is 00:29:49 usually walking around Stoughton Newington is he really that's good to know I might go find him cake the made up drug see you on Monday
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