The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.63: Postman Pat redux

Episode Date: October 21, 2019

We're back, back from outer space, we just walked in and saw you sat there with that look upon your face. This time around we take the time to critique the new-look Postman Pat, and then riff quite a bit on eggs. There's chat about Sheffield, there's Philip Pullman, and then there's also a bit about soundtracks to TV shows.We also do our bit to air your views as well, so stick around for that. To email us, it's [e-mail]. We look forward to hearing from you! Have a great week!***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. That's the only tune I learnt on the violin. Well, you're mimicking the violin. It's the only tune I ever played on the violin. But the voice you're giving there sounds a bit like a woodwind instrument. How would you do a violin noise? It's on the violin. But the voice you're giving there sounds a bit like a woodwind instrument. How would you do a violin noise? It's exactly the same.

I'm just giving it a bit of a pop. I wouldn't go... It's Morrissey. All right, then. Watch out, it's Monday morning and it is the morning. This is the Luke and Pete show with Pete and Luke doing their thing early in the morning. Just as they're dying. Yeah.

Good on you, Petey. He picks a ball of p post bags in his van. Oh, they changed that now. You know that. What? So, hello everyone. Hello. I'm the Luke part of this.

Hi. Nice to see you and hear you and speak to you again. They've changed the whole Postman Pat thing. What does he do now then? Well...

Has he been made redundant? I was as confused as anyone. First of all, shout out to my niece, Betsy, who's four today. Oh, happy birthday niece. Betsy, I mean.

Yeah, that's what I call her. Niece, get in. Niece, tee me. Went to her birthday party on Saturday. Lots of fun. I saw pictures

and it looked like a lot of fun. It was great. They had an indoor bouncy castle. Yeah, that was loud. Which is a bit turd ducking. It was loud, yeah.

It was loud. But the reason I'm saying this about Bets is because this is where my apparent knowledge of this comes from. Right, okay, yeah. So when she stays with us for the weekend or whatever, or she has done traditionally, we'll obviously put a telly on occasionally,

mostly when Uncle Lukey is tired, which is about three hours after she turns up. Yeah. And anyway, suppose when Pat is not at all like I remember it, so I believe I'm right in saying, and all the parents out there listening will know far better remember it, so I believe I'm right in saying, and all the parents out there listening will know far better than I, but I believe I'm right in saying that it's all CGI now. So it's not the stop motion animation,

which I found very charming, but that's probably just my age. It's very labour intensive, the old plasticine. Exactly. And it's also, I think the theme should completely change. What? But it's not. What is it then? I can't remember, But it's not... What is it then? I can't remember,

but it's not as good. I remember an edition of Total Guitar magazine. It used to have how to play the postman theme tune on an acoustic guitar, which is really not what you're going

to Total Guitar for. But we'd all go trying to learn it. But if you've got young children, it might be fun. Well, it's actually quite a sweet kind of tune because the melody's kind of almost irrelevant. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun day is done. He picks up all the post bags in his van. Everybody knows his right red

van. As he goes to see the maybe. You can never be sure. It's been like a horror movie this, isn't it? Knock, ring, let us through your door. Here's Johnny. I used to think it was let us, because I'm from the North East, I used to think it was let us because I'm from the north east I used to think he was saying let us throw your door as in let me throw your door that makes sense

let us throw your door let us throw your door the bass line you did at the start of that was very Les Claypool yeah Les Claypool

from Primus for some reason I feel like he might have performed the South Park theme tune no that was what did you say Primus yeah Primus yeah performed the South Park theme tune. No, that was...

What did you say? Primus. Yeah, Primus did it. Yeah, yeah. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, great stuff. So, Postman Pat, that's that done to death. Fuck off.

See how different it is now? That's the same melody. I feel like it's different to that. I don't think that's the same melody I feel like it's different to that I don't think that's it that's Postman Pat's special delivery actually I think that's that's not even CGI anymore right okay

yeah I think it's different to that now honestly anyway that is Postman Pat I mean it's just I know it doesn't mean anything

it doesn't make any difference I was listening to a fantastic interview with Philip Pullman over the weekend. His Dark Materials. Exactly. He's got another book out. I'm in the middle of reading it at the moment. It's fantastic. His Less Dark Materials. For me, it's an appointment read, a Philip Pullman book.

So when I've got books on the go and books in a pile that I want to work through, when a Pullman comes in, straight to the top of the pile. It pulls to the top. It does. Is it a situation where is he the guy I thought he did like kids books

like teenage books I'm not sure about his other work I've only read his dark materials but his dark materials is I think it was originally written

for kids isn't there like a polar bear yes but he's got he's got in the middle of a second trilogy

at the moment and the second book is called The Secret Commonwealth and the second trilogy is called uh the secret commonwealth and then the second trilogy is called um the book of dust anyway i'm in the middle of reading it at the moment and i read and i listened to an interview with him obviously he's doing the rounds to promote it he's quite an interesting guy and he was talking about the fact that um the first book northern lights was made into a movie called golden cut the golden compass with daniel craig and nicole kip and stuff and he sort of very sort fact that the first book, Northern Lights, was made into a movie called The Golden Compass

with Daniel Craig and Nicole Kibben and stuff. And he sort of very graciously said, it wasn't great, it deserved the three star reviews that they got everywhere, blah blah blah. And they didn't make the second and the third one. But then what transpired was that he's very hands off when it comes to the movies being made on the back of the books. Because he said, look, to be honest,

I'm not a filmmaker, and it doesn't affect what I'm doing in any way. I mean, if you don't like the films that are made off the back of it, well, it doesn't mean the books are any worse.

So he's quite relaxed about the whole thing, which I found sort of fairly, well, very gracious, but also quite interesting because most people, you'd expect them to be very possessive

over the things they create. Because he's created a whole universe there, really. Yeah, and also, I guess he's got a BBC series coming out as well, so don't hedge your bets. So that's created a whole universe there, really. Yeah, and also, I guess he's got a BBC series coming out as well, so don't hedge your bets. So that's got Lin-Manuel Miranda

in it as well, hasn't it? Which is interesting. Ah, okay. And I think Ruth Wilson plays Mrs. Coulter in that, which is an excellent piece of casting, so I'm excited for that. Yeah.

I finished the second season of Succession last night as well. It's good, isn't it? Boom! Loving it, loving it. The wry smile, we won't go any furtherving it. Loving it. The wry smile. We won't go any further than that. Loving it.

He's worth watching, though. Very much worth watching. He dead. Yeah. Fuck off! They all sound like that. Greg is just like a higher version of it. He dead.

Yeah. I want the company. I want 30% of the company. Yeah. And then Greg is like, Hey, Dad. Hey, Uncle. Hey, Uncle. Yeah. I'd really like the company and then Greg is like um hey dad um hey uh what's it uncle

hey uncle um yeah I'd really like the company please yeah I'd really like a good job in your company please

and then the bloke from Spooks is like um I don't know um could we not have this in the home please yeah

you keep calling the bloke from Spooks it's the bloke from spooks isn't it he's in loads of stuff he's Carly Cocker's

brother yeah I like the fact that Matthew McFadden used to start doing he started

out doing well he started out but he at some point did period dramas so he was

Mr Darcy I mean you can't imagine him being Mr Darcy based on what he's like but again guys everyone listening that's what actors do they transform so he was Mr. Darcy wasn't he yeah I mean you can't imagine him being Mr. Darcy based on what he's like as a successor but then again guys everyone listening

that's what actors do yes they transform themselves check this out yeah it's very impressive I'm doing the hand across the face thing happy

sad in the words of the great Ian McKellen in Extras how do they know what to say it's written down for them in a script

how do they know where to stand someone tells them it's an excellent series anyway and and um this isn't a spoiler it's a very good line that i enjoyed in it at which at one point he says uh to make a tomlet you've got to break a couple of gregs yeah which is very interesting the um i like the theme tune as well oh the theme tune's great shout out to all. Shout out to all the TV and film composers out there, man. They're doing their thing these days. I mean, these guys are killing it.

Well, you were obsessed with the bloody Game of Thrones thing. Oh, so good. I think it was very good. It's so good because what it does is it genuinely does elevate it to such a high level. Yeah, but do you remember when in the sort of late noughties... Actually, it was probably later than that to be fair, around about 2012, every HBO, every Netflix series

had the same kind of woozy, boozy, bluesy kind of intro to it. I'm thinking stuff like... The Wire. The Wire, yeah. We're Down in the Hall, was it? We're Down in the Hall. It's got different artists singing at each series.

Yeah. I think the original's The Blind Boys of Alabama, isn't it? But yeah, Tom Waits... No, I don't. Tom Waits is the original. That's one of them. No, I don't think it's an original Tom Waits song. Maybe it might be.

It suits his voice, I don't know. Yeah, it does. It might well be. What's he building in there? Do you remember that song? It used to be on MTV quite a lot. It wasn't really a song for me. I don't know why it was on MTV.

Well, a lot of it isn't really. I mean, a lot of it is kind of like, it almost sounds a bit like poetry, doesn't it? Set over the top of music. I do like Tom White, so he's good. I like his cover of I Don't Want to Grow Up. When I'm lying in my bed at night, I don't want to go

that is a very good impression of him mate very good well done what's his biggest song Clack Pants is my

favourite of his it's good Clack Pants is on it's on what's it on Rain Dogs it's good but the reason I was

going to say about Sounders because what I feel has happened and people can email in hello at lukeandpeacher.com

and talk about this if they have a firm opinion on it. I feel like that's really, it's something that almost like cinematography, which has really come on. Like every series now, every kind of drama series now that makes it onto Netflix or Prime or whatever, generally speaking, is beautifully shot. Now, I know that's partly to do with the prevalence of much more affordable kind of equipment. But it's beautifully shot without exception almost now.

But also, soundtracks have come a long way as well. If you think of about... So I would say, for example, Breaking Bad, which many people would say is the very best. I mean, we have to get

into that debate now, but people would argue that. And I think it is part of the conversation. So the soundtrack's particularly amazing. I mean, they to get into that debate now but people would argue that and I think it is part of the conversation so the soundtrack is particularly amazing I mean they have incidental music they use quite well

they use a bit of the death scene had a bit of like a 70s track in it I can't remember yeah it's it's Baby Blue wasn't it

yeah and the it's a really good scene with a a band what are they called man it's a really really good scene isn't it with a particularly good indie band

I forget what they're fucking called now, anyway apart from that, that's different though, that's different between taking songs and matching them up to scenes and stuff, it's different to composing original music for particular purposes which Ramin Djawadi does brilliantly with Game of Thrones and which whoever did Succession does as well because they filter it in, they drop it in

here and there, it's not just the theme. It kind of permeates the whole series. Obviously, Gamora, they've got one piece of music they use every fucking scene. Yeah. Well, you know something shit's going to go down because they play the song. Yeah, but also the arse fell out of music about 20 years ago.

So bands in particular are much more into getting their music licensed and also the same for composers as well it's the only way you can make cash because you just

can't make it anywhere else absolutely absolutely that's right syndication is a big part of it now isn't it

anyway we've been to Guildford High Wycombe and Sheffield Sheffield was fun wasn't it Sheffield Sex City

as I call it I'm a big fan of Pulp my favourite band probably and because they can't do anything wrong

they can't fuck anything up now they're finished they can't fuck it up the OCs that's the band I was thinking of the OCs

sorry carry on I'm just saying Pulp cannot fuck anything up they're finished they're done so we can just move on with our lives

and appreciate Pulp for what they were Jarvis Cocker's band of course your and appreciate Pulp for what they were. Jarvis Cocker's band, of course. Your love for Pulp has kind of manifested itself fairly recently to me. I didn't know you were so into them. No, but I think I've sort of drawn a line under my formative years and sort of went,

that's my favourite band. Right. Like his and hers I would listen to any day. But, yeah, I'd never been to Sheffield. And I don't know why because it looked pretty good to me. It's a nice place.

Nice city. Didn't you end the night dancing on a table? No. I was present when other people were dancing on a table but I was not one of them.

I was not among their number. Is that in every town centre nowadays? This is a thing apparently. There's one in Newcastle, there's a couple in Newcastle I think. In bigger towns,

they seem to have these beer halls. We're so out of touch these days. Preparing for a right-wing putsch. We're old and we live in London, so we have no idea what goes on. But apparently, yeah, I had never heard of this stuff and a couple of people we went out for a drink with

after the Sheffield show was like, oh, you've got to go to this place. It's really good. It wasn't good, but people were having a lovely time in there. It's a big beer hall. They are not appealing to 39 year old men

like me and I get it well I mean presumably the beer halls it's just big steins of beer isn't it and some yeah they serve

they serve the so what's not to love there then in terms of the beer they serve if you like beer you'll like it but it's just

it's very much a kind of performative space well you sit on these long benches and you drink beer like you would

at Oksoberfest or whatever but at the same time they're playing pumping pop music and there's people dancing on the tables kind of in between you which for me

is not really my scene but I understand the appeal but yeah I liked it in Sheffield I've been there a few times before to watch the snooker as people who are long term listeners to this show will know it's a great place it's very studentield I've been there a few times before to watch the snooker as people who are long term listeners to this show

will know it's a great place it's very studenty but that's not a bad thing a man got very upset that you'd got the crucible wrong or something

he said it's not next to the crucible no it wasn't in the end it was only across the road though we walked past the crucible to get to it what do they need

that was a brilliant Ramble Live show because it was so enclosed everyone was very close in it was good there's a few shows left actually ramblelive.com for tickets come and see us we're doing leads That was a brilliant Ramble Live show because it was so enclosed. Everyone was very close in. It was good.

It was good. There's a few shows left, actually. RambleLive.com for tickets. Come and see us. We're doing Leeds and Newcastle, then Norwich, Birmingham, and Salford,

and then we're off to the US and Canada. Yay. So RambleLive.com. Fun, fun, fun. For those tickets. Yeah, should we have a little break and then do some emails?

There you go. Is that all right? I've never really heard, I've never really requested to hear Jerry Hallowell solo stuff again but there we are there we are

it's happened hello at lukeandpeatshow.com is the email address thank you very much to everyone who's emailed in over the last week or so

it's been great to hear from you shall we put to bed this Wetherspoons egg debate once and for all yes please I started this one

myself correct give people a little update in case they can't remember last week what happened was there was an email in claiming that the eggs in weather spoons meals come out of the kitchen as they come out but they go into the kitchen i.e they are delivered pre-cracked and frozen to be reheated and you and i people talking about the time-saving benefit or lack thereof of that kind of process.

Would it be cleaner? Because, I mean... I think the cleanest place for an egg is well inside its shell, isn't it? Yeah, don't trust them. Will we get, after post-Brexit, will we get those white, white, white eggs? Those white bleached kind of eggs that you get in America. Maybe.

Yeah, I don't know why that is. Along with that chlorinated chicken. I think the white eggs, yeah, for some reason in the US. Is it a different, I think it might be a different brand, but also they do clean them as well quite harshly before they get to.

I don't know. I don't profess to have any knowledge on this subject, but my initial reaction is that they are probably from chickens that aren't treated very well so they're of a different different color because of that but i don't know that to be true um anyway owen's been in touch um i don't know this is the email you styled as well pete i'm going to do it he says hi as a former kitchen kitchen associate at a newcastle based weather spoons i can confirm the claim of them using pre-cracked frozen eggs

is utter bollocks. They do lots of weird things at Wetherspoons but the eggs are legit. Microwaved roast beef is pretty rank though. Cheers, Owen. And then Owen replied

to his own email about 10 minutes later saying, wait, sorry, I forgot about their poached eggs. They were vacuum-packed and pre-cracked.

Christ, I hated that job, Owen. So, Owen has put that to bed in quite a strange fashion and first of all denied it and then confirmed that it is true. Right, okay. But I don't understand why... Why the poached eggs would be... Because presumably you have to cook them in precisely the same way.

You put them in a little silicon cup probably and pop it into some water. And then they cook it there, freeze it, and then transport it. It's probably because poaching an egg is notoriously quite hard to do under time pressure.

Just make sure you add vinegar to the water, guys. I had, I had, this is going to be controversial, right? I'm going to stick it out there anyway.

I've got no reason to besmirch the man, but this is my direct experience. I went to Long Clume in the Lake District. I told you about it, didn't I?

In Cartmill. That's right, yes. And we stayed there and part of the thing the next day was you got breakfast and we were there for two nights.

So the first morning we got this amazing like full English but like done in a Michelin star kind of way. And the second morning we got poached eggs and avocado on toast

which I like as well. But I'm going to stick my neck out here and say the poached eggs they gave us were borderline raw that was so underdone it was unbelievable now no one wants to have a hard yolk in a poached egg i get that and you want to have it just cooked so it's when you crack it it comes out but this was almost translucent the whole egg was almost translucent and i thought i'm not sure that should be happening here yeah and i also thought you crack it, it comes out. But this was almost translucent. The whole egg was almost translucent. And I thought, I'm not sure that should be happening here. And I also thought that,

because it's got a Michelin star, but I also thought, is that how Michelin star chefs think that people like eggs? And maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I think if you've got one of those things, I mean, it's really easy to know whether you've got like a clear egg.

There's probably some reasons behind it it was just cooked like just cooked it's probably by design because some people get up they put like

a load of egg white is it egg white no it'd be like the nucleus it'd be the centre the egg yolk I think it's called

the nucleus mate I reckon in a cellar it is mate the yolk you know where they put like five yolks in a glass and whizz it around. Maybe add some Tabasco and slam that down for breakfast. I might start doing that. I wouldn't mind that.

In my mind, the only people who have ever done that are bodybuilders in the 80s. Yeah. Bodybuilders in the 80s. Remember when like strongmen used to be like Big Daddy and stuff? Like the strongmen of the UK. They used to eat like loads of fried breakfast and stuff. And that was the thing. Oh, I can eat five fried breakfasts and loads of bread and stuff like that.

And that's why I'm strong. Do you remember when fat people used to be strong? Yeah. They used to have terrible cholesterol problems. And it's like, oh, look at him. He's really strong. I wouldn't get on the wrong side of him. He'd tire out in about five seconds.

In the 80s, a strong man would just be a fat bloke. He would be. An older fat man. Yes. And I understand the rationale back then between like, are you... Because another example... It's like the school playground, isn't it? The fattest kid is invariably the harder kid.

Yeah. But I remember when I was an electrician's labourer back in the day. I was an electrician's son. Yeah. the day and I was an electrician's son yeah well yeah you were you still are there's a couple of geezers in the team

unless he's yet to be discovered well yeah watch this space he'll do anything to get out of a ramble show there's a couple of there's a couple of guys in the team

older guys and they would have like genuinely have a fried breakfast every morning a full fried breakfast now I get that they're working physically so they're going to burn all those calories off a couple of them

i mean there were larger blokes they weren't ridiculous but they were larger blokes but you think if you're gonna not they would ever do this but if you're going to look at it sort of more scientifically there's probably higher calorie breakfast that are much more healthier for you than you can than you'd have i mean it wouldn't be full of saturated fat, for example, and sugar and salt and all that kind of stuff. But it just used to be a thing. And they would also invariably finish at like 3 p.m. And not every afternoon, but they would go at least for a pint or two on the way home.

Yeah, I don't understand. Yeah, I mean, I think that's exactly why labourers, electricians, sparkies, plumbers, they all start really early. And my time is, I go to bed about 2, 3 o'clock and I wake up about 9, 10. And so whenever there's anything to do at my house, I don't want anyone in my house before 10 o'clock.

Because your routine is different. Because my routine is different. But their routine is obviously they're up at 6 and they're out and about by 7. And so they start work very, very early. But I do think historically that is why

because if you were if you had a codependent who was also working they would finish at five and you could slip

in a couple of pints before you went pick up the shop in 100% I'm quite friendly with my neighbours and my neighbours I know in particular

I won't name because I'd get him in trouble but he is kind of always back and forth from the local because I'd get him in trouble but he is kind of always back and forth from the local pub

but for him it's just like it's a five minute walk I'll put the kids to bed I'll pop down there just for a pint maybe a pint and a half and come back

and it's kind of an anchor I think because it's good you get out you meet people you get to chat to a local my best friend Jimmy he's got about three local pubs

near where he lives and if you go there, and I'll sometimes go, I'll say, look, we'll go for a pint, I'll come to you. Go to his place, and then go to the pub on the corner of his road or whatever.

He's like a local celebrity in there. I mean, it's a great thing for him to be able to walk in there any time when he wants a pint, and definitely going to have a friend in there. Oh, yeah. The community aspect, that's great. My dad's the same.

I mean, his pub, his Gillens is grim. But they do have football. So I do get a text every time you cast around the telly getting hammered. Of course,

there's like an aspect of that where all the kind of lily-livered liberals like us will be like, oh, you know, but it's quite an unhealthy lifestyle. It's like, yeah, but these pubs are really

important to communities. When I was a kid growing up, a local pub was a big part of it. We'd go there, but you'd get like a little I would never say any of that I'm a heavy drinker Luke

I know but I said that liberal people do sometimes think like that don't they younger people yeah but it's a part of it man

but you see a generation of men and it is mainly men but again it's like quite exclusionary like why is it

acceptable for a man to do that and it's not a woman but it is mainly men, but again, it's like quite exclusionary. Like, why is it acceptable for a man to do that and it's not a woman? But it is a cornerstone of communities, but also, we sort of grew up watching these men

sort of do it every day. And so, like, when people talk about the dangers of alcohol, we've got so many kind of like people we can point to

and sort of go, that guy went to the pub every day of his fucking life and he's 90. He might have lost a leg or two yeah it's like when you see an interview of like a I don't know

like a woman makes her 100th birthday and the local press go around and go what's your secret Tabs cheese and wine yeah I'll have a glass of whiskey

before bed and I'll smoke 20 cigarettes every day some people just got it local pubs is a great scene it's a rich seam. So if you've got any stories

about your local pub, hello at lukeandpichot.com. Have you ever bought fish? Have you ever bought meat from the man who appears in the pub? I got offered a car battery and a deli-sized block of cheese from a guy in a pub once.

Look, I mean, a deli-sized block of cheese is fine, but a car battery, you don't know how many cycles that's gone through. You don't know what state of that's gone through you don't know what state of disrepair that battery's come out of

yeah also I'm not going to buy a car battery from a bloke in the pub who's also selling cheese and I'm not going to buy cheese from a guy who's

selling car batteries he only does square things yeah he only does square things oblong or rectangular shaped goods very stackable very stackable

he had cassette tapes he had a brick I just read upon the eggs. Apparently, it's just because the Americans clean them. And they don't want any shit on their eggs, basically. Fair enough. Which is fair enough, I guess. Let's do another email. Go for it.

I also had the Wetherspoons egg. Let's have a look. Stew Jones. A delicious stew. Good morning. morning long time listener second time emailer as always I'm late to the party

I'm one of the many episodes 199 uh I mean 199 sounds like just yesterday yeah because this is 199 point whatever uh

there was mention of several 80s pop stars Pete mentioned Lisa Stansfield and how her song All Around the World should have been turned into a computer game

where she was looking for her baby um still excellent famously you thought she was looking for her baby. You thought that was actually... Famously, you thought that was about an actual baby. Yeah, yeah. Still an excellent idea, I think. There was also mention of Frankie Goes to Hollywood and the many versions of The Power of Love.

Why don't they do a mash-up of all of the songs of the 80s in one video game? Stansfield, one mission. You're with Stansfield, you've got to look for a baby. Then you're with, I don't know, Prince in a raspberry beret or possibly a car.

One of his car songs would have been probably more applicable there. Little red Corvette. Yeah. That'd be brilliant. It'd be like Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, but less violent

because Prince was a pacifist. No, but I mean in terms of how you play it. Yeah, he'd just be ram-raiding his record company constantly. I mean, essentially, if you play it. Yeah, he'd just be ram-raiding his record company constantly. I mean, essentially... If you don't own the Masters, the Masters own you, Luke. It's true.

Tell Taylor Swift that. In Vice City, you are just driving around in a car listening to these 80s songs anyway, aren't you? So it's essentially the same thing. Well, it's not the same thing because you could have the characters from all of the... You know, you'd have the DJ Cool Cat, or whatever it's called, from that fucking song.

DJ Cool Cat. Who's's called, from that fucking song. DJ Cool Cat. Who's the woman who did DJ... Did she fuck about with DJ Cool Cat? Paula Abdul. Paula Abdul. Was it DJ Cool Cat? I don't know. He had a stupid name.

Two steps forward, I take two steps back. Yeah. And the man who danced in the video, he just got covered over by a DJ Cool Cat, whatever it's fucking called. Anyway, this brought to mind to Stu Jones's mind that is an 80s

computer game that I had for my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k rubber keys named after the 80s Liverpool band Frankie Goes to Hollywood in the game you are an

anonymous character and had to find your way to the pleasure dome sorry can I just say that it was that is the worst idea ever yeah but it is bad

yeah and we'll come on to that in a minute but the opposite to the track thing, the male voice in there was a guy called Derek Stevens, and he performed the voice of animated character MC Scat Cat. Scat Cat. I knew he was into coprophilia. Oh, God.

I think that was the angle. I can't recall a... Yeah, on the way, you had to become a whole person and complete tasks in order to gain attributes, sex, love, passion, and faith. These symbols appeared on the way you had to become a whole person and complete tasks in order to gain attributes, sex, love, passion and faith. These symbols appeared on the cover of the album. I can't recall a great deal about the game because I was probably playing the original football manager. I also recall another

80s pop star tie-in game called the Shaky Game endorsed by the Welsh Elvis Shaky Stevens. If my recollection is correct, it was a maze game where you had to avoid the bats and get to this old house and open the green door. That sounds unbelievably shit.

Can that be true or are you just making that up? No, no, no. I certainly remember the Pleasure Dome Freckles to Hollywood game.

I don't think they were very good but games could be made in a weekend on the Sinclair ZX Spectrum and it was usually made by like brothers, like 18

year old brothers in their bedrooms programmed in machine code. You didn't really that much, you didn't need that much artistic flair to complete a lot of these. And it was quite a cheap bit of marketing product. Frank Sidebottom used to do a lot of his own games,

which is interesting. He used to program his own. We learned about Adrian Ebenson having a game in the 80s, didn't we? How to be a complete bastard. How to be a complete bastard. I think that is the best because you're used to

sort of seeing like licensed games for IP that are obviously bigger than a UK short lived book

slash TV show I think it was like one episode wasn't it and a book How to be a complete bastard I think so yeah but the video game was fucking

excellent have you played it again it used to be a complete bastard I don't remember how to have a book but the video game was fucking excellent have you played it again it used to be a fart have you played it again though yeah I have actually and it stands up because it's a little bit

spy versus spy you go around a house doing whatever the fuck you want and it's a very underrated piece of work you could you could

you could click three times on google and get to it and have a little fiddle it's excellent have a little fiddle it's excellent have a little fiddle also something that kind of goes

underreported about Ade Edmondson obviously a legend I think he was the voice of Pepper Army Animal wasn't he as well

wasn't that not quite obvious oh was it I don't think you're a pepper animal he sort of talks like that doesn't he it's great

I don't know if that's been mentioned enough has it he's not mentioned enough, has it? He's not known for that, is he? Does it need mention? I'm mentioning it now. Oh, dear. I'd love to do a character voiceover.

That could be so much fun. Is that the end of Stu's email? That's the end of Stu's email. He says, can any other listeners confirm the existence of these games? I am a listener and a producer of the show, and I am confirming. And can they recall any other 80s pop star computer games keep up the great work Stu Jones

there was Rockstar at my hamster that was very good as well oh I remember that yeah that was a big that was a big deal around some of my friends I've never really played it myself

yeah but that was like a big a big whoop that was I'm looking at the five weirdest pop star video games ever Michael Jackson's Moonwalker

that was a big one that was a classic that was a that was an arcade machine it's got everything Wu-Tang Shaolin style

Wu-Tang like Def Jam had a couple of fucking amazing shows the best Wu-Tang was Taste of Pain which was that beat em up

kind of street fighter type show is that a beat em up street fighter yeah all the ones it was like street fighter

but yeah Wu-Tang had one that was Wu-Tang Def Jam one of the Def Jam games was fucking amazing

right everyone loved it everyone loved it Frankie Goes to Hollywood Devo had a few I did that I'm not surprised by Devo

alright Pete let's get out of here let's wrap up and we'll come back on Thursday maybe with some more chat and some chat like it thanks for your company

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