The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.64: Man with ferret

Episode Date: October 24, 2019

Here are the notes that Luke took from this episode with the apparent hope of writing a synopsis about it:'Eyebrows', 'tabloid newspapers', 'ferret', 'Breaking Bad', 'hair cuts', and 'memes'.Make of that what you will. There's a vague memory of a metal band doing a Billy Ocean cover as well, but to be honest the ol' synapses aren't what they were so bear with us.Get at us: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. Who's that on the stairwell? It's Luke and Pete. What are they doing? Well, they're kissing. What's that about then? They're wearing gloves.

They're wearing gloves and they're kissing. Probing, touching. With safety in their minds. It's the Luke and Pete show. We're back for Thursday. How has your life changed in the three days that we've not been doing this? I'm wearing odd socks. Are you really?

Yeah, I'm a British eccentric. You're also wearing a pair of brand new moccasins. Yeah. I've not noticed these before. Yeah, they're too big for me. They're not helpful, really. They're quite slippy. Look at the bottom of them. I'm very... I think... Cheapies, only 20 quid. Yeah, where'd too big for me. They're not helpful, really. They're quite slippy. Look at the bottom of them.

I'm very... I think... Cheapies, only 20 quid. Yeah, where'd you buy them from? Yeah, probably Topman, I can't remember. I think they might be slippers. I think you're wearing slippers outside. Nah, they were... Look at the sole on them.

Nah, they were... They were... Don't touch the bottom of my shoe. Yeah, I think... It's disgusting. We need to talk about that thing. They're not moccasins. They're not shoe...

They were in the shoe... They're on the shoe rack. They would have been in their whole other section, quite frankly. And you can't take a picture because I'm wearing odd socks and that would be

incredibly embarrassing. Are you regretting the purchase or are you pleased with the purchase? I think I could have chosen my size because I'm always a size 8 for some reason.

These are too big. Yeah, it does vary. Not massively with my clodders. Because I've got a pair of these. These Adidas pumps I've got here. Pumps. I'm always a 10 and a half. I bought 10 and a half and these are a bit tight as well.

Oh, so you said they're big, are they? Yeah. These have come out small, so it's weird. These probably fit you perfect. Is this the most boring shirt? No, we've done loads of shit at ones like perfect. Is this the most boring start to the show? No we've done loads of shit at ones like that.

Is Pete wearing slippers and Luke's tight shoes? Monday was Postman Pat. It was actually wasn't it? How you been Luke? I went to see the Joker. Oh any good? Ah the Joker.

Ah. Is it good? Oh I'm going to spook you out with my makeup. No one knows if it's any good or not? Um I didn't enjoy it. Okay so most people say it's I think it's sub good or not. I didn't enjoy it. Okay, so most people say it's...

I think it's subversive for normies, for people who haven't lived on the internet their whole lives. Oh, so you found it quite tame? I found it quite tame, yeah. The most subversive thing is he had a tab on all the way through the film, a cigarette to the American listeners. So a lot of people have talked... I haven't seen it, so I might be wrong,

but I believe a lot of people have talked about the similarities to it and the King of Comedy and Taxi Driver and that kind of stuff and the obvious nods to that. And the fact that it's got Joaquin Phoenix in it, and that's the case, I think I'll probably really enjoy it. But I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, it's fine. I'm starting to kind of come around to Scorsese's way of thinking

he says he doesn't rate all of these films he's chewing gum The Scorsese quote wasn't related to a film like that No but I think to those kind of audiences it is probably quite genre defining I think

because the people who are obsessed with those kind of films probably wouldn't be necessarily easing themselves into the warm bath of cinema outside of those kind of confines, I would say. No. So you've got a situation, I think, in lots of artistic endeavours

or lots of kind of entertainment sort of places where there are certain things that are obviously targeted at people who don't otherwise have a specific interest in those things so for example you know you can easily see people who love all those marvel movies not really being into that many other films yeah Because there's enough there to set them. Like, if you're a fan of comics, you're a fan of comic book films, Jesus Christ, how much media is there?

It's a massive money-making endeavour. There's no need to break out of those confines. I'm not saying that I've got a great love for fucking cinema, but I watched that film and I was going, this doesn't tick many boxes for me.

But Joker isn't the same as the films that Scorsese is talking about. Scorsese is talking about... I know, I know, I know. For those who listen who haven't seen the quotes, he's saying that, in his opinion, I think he's saying this anyway, he's saying that cinema is something that is a vehicle for exploring kind of emotions and experiences

and how people interact with each other and making sense of different situations in the world around you. But what he, I think as well, what he said was about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, as an example, is that it's almost like a theme park. It's like a theme park ride. You don't learn anything when you watch it. You go there, you eat your popcorn,

you get sort of almost overwhelmed by these pictures and this sound, and it's not cinema as he understands it. And I think that's been dismissed as kind of old white guy has old white guy opinions, which maybe it partly is. But I was interested to see that Francis Ford Coppola came out this week as well, saying that he agrees with him as well.

And they're both, I mean, whatever you think of them and their position, I mean, they're amazing film makers. But what I would say to that, though, is there's something out there for everyone. I don't think you should be necessarily dismissive or derisive of people who like this film. No, but I'm saying, I mean, and for those people who, you know, you could pile in with Lucas and stuff as well,

who's also commented. And, I mean, they did gangster movies for men, basically, like with strong male characters, women very much on the periphery they weren't particularly progressive any of these

any of these films but they were excellent pieces of work and yes they probably have got more to do they've got more about them than the

comic book films and stuff it's not about being dismissive it's just sort of saying if you're really into the ecosystem of comic book films you probably find that

Joker film quite progressive and quite interesting. It should definitely go in that direction. It should be a bit more psychological. Is it more of a

character study? Yeah, it should be more of a character study rather than the explosions and all that bollocks. But yeah, maybe I just don't watch a

lot of comic book films. Yeah, I mean, I get sort of shuttled around to most of them. But I think there's plenty of them. Aren't there plenty of movies that Scorsese's done that are a bit different to what you're describing?

He made Cape Fear, which is a thriller. He made Shutter Island again, which is like a thriller. He made... Two Men. Yeah, I suppose they're all male-orientated, I guess, yeah. But, I mean, yeah, like I said, there's probably something out there for everyone. There's no sort of

shortage of choice these days and I know as well as you do the best movie Martin Scorsese ever made was the one he made

with Larry David in I think the third season of Curb Your Enthusiasm which is brilliant did he direct one he's just in it David's in like a movie with Scorsese

in Curb I'd really like to call Martin Scorsese's eyebrows. Oh, they're very... But my eyebrows are... They are so dark. Mine are going crazy now. Yeah, I know.

This is my life five years ago. My eyebrows started going wild. It's a part of growing up that no one tells you about. Your hair, eyebrows, wild. And you... I've got one hair on my left eyebrow that's the length of the entire eyebrow. It's really weird.

It's really spooky. Yeah, I'm similar. And the thing is, with the nose, so first of all, there's two points in this. One is that no one tells you about this. So when you get out of school or whatever, no one says to you, oh yeah, when you get older, you need to, they say, oh, you need to get a job

or you need to get an education so you can get a better job so you can sort of make more money whatever and whatever the kind of your opinion on that i mean that's what you're told don't say to you you're gonna get hairy eyebrows and they're gonna go mad and you're gonna have to allocate probably 20 to 30 minutes every week in sorting your ear hair your nose hair and your eyebrow hair out and your eyebrow hair out. And another thing is... I was buying a personal trimmer in boots once, and a man came over and went, you know that trimmer you're buying for your nose hair or ear hair?

Use that head, because it had several different heads. Oh, right. Use that one. I used the one that's like a little chimney. Yeah. Yeah, he said, use the chimney one rather than the other one.

Yeah. And I was like, I don't need... And he was an older man. I was like, I should have taken his sage advice properly instead of just ignoring him. But I don't need, and he was an older man. I was like, I should have taken his sage advice properly instead of just ignoring him. But I don't know how that deals with,

so I can deal with the ear and the nose. The eyebrows, the only way I deal with the eyebrows, I'll be honest with you right now, and I'll stick this out there for everyone listening. The only time my eyebrows get trimmed is when I go and get my hair cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They put the comb over the eyebrow and run the razor over it.

Yeah, yeah. But I'm too scared to do that myself. Do they do the flames in your ear? Um, no. No. What, no?

You don't do your barbers? No. Hmm. Flames in the ear? What are you talking about? Yeah, they set fire to like an oily rag, like a little petrol...

I've never heard of this before. It sounds really dangerous. You know like a Turkish thing? It's like a long stick and they set fire to a little oily rag

and they just whack it in your ear and it burns off it singes your ear hair and so it curls back on itself is that what you have done yeah

that completely passed me by the smell of ear hair is rather pungent I just used the old did they not make you lean back and they put a hot towel on your face

and they massage your fingers and your arms and stuff? No. Yeah. I go to a... And a handy... I go to a hairdresser, not some kind of

18th century Turkish barbers. By the way, this story caught my eye this week. Your eye-eye? Australian airline Qantas has completed a test of the longest non-stop passenger flight as part of research on how the journey could affect pilots, crew and passengers.

Oh, yeah. It was a 787, which I think is the Dreamliner, isn't it? With 49 people on board, it went 19 hours and 16 minutes from New York to Sydney, which is 10,066 miles. Wasn't there like, they were just testing out the, how discombobulated the people would be? Yeah.

Because I mean, presumably there'd be some people who have been employed to sit in coach and there'll be some people employed who'll sit in business class

and first class and stuff. Yeah. You'd be gutted if you were doing that test. Which one would you choose? Which one would I choose? Obviously first. You'd choose economy

because you hate yourself. I don't actually. I'm willing to spend money on flights. Oh yeah, you are. But you did once say to me that you know that Kurt Cobain said he hates himself and he wants to die.

You said, I hate myself and I want to live so I can spend more time hating myself. Yeah, I mean, I think I was being flippant but a couple of my friends

heard you report this and thought I was going to do myself in. But never a truer word said in jest, you know. But the crucial thing about this long haul 19 hour flight,

whatever it was. Is that it crashed at the end. It was supposed to 20 hours. No, it's that. Ran out of fuel, idiots.

It can't, it can't. It can't take all the cargo. No, there's no, there's no plane that I think has the range to do it with a full passenger and cargo load anyway.

So, but there is one that goes. Hot load. I don't like the word load.. But there is one that goes... Hot load. I don't like the word load. That probably says more about your... Take my load. ...your internet practices. But you know that currently there is one

that goes from Singapore to New York, which is 18 hours, 25 minutes anyway. Yeah, exactly. On average. So it's not that far different, is it? No, exactly. What's the longest flight you've done? I've done London to Singapore, I think.

It'd probably be Tokyo, to be honest, wouldn't it? Tokyo. How long's that? 14, I've done London to Singapore, I think. It'd probably be Tokyo. I'll be honest, I'll go to Tokyo. How long's that? 14, 13 hours. Yeah, 13, 14 hours. Is it a pain? Not if you buy Valium off the internet. You're always on the valleys. I'm always on the valleys.

Frankie Valley over there. Everything kept second to the Benzo. Frankie Valley in the four seasons. What four seasons? Don't know. I'm asleep the whole time. Love it! I thought that was quite interesting.

So I wonder, because we keep hearing chat. There's chat all over the place. Le chat. You can't go a week old. Je regarde le chat. You can't go, je regarde le chat.

Je regarde, je regarde, je regarde le chat. You can't go more than two weeks on the internet without some news article about how there's going to be a hypersonic flyer

where it goes out of the atmosphere and comes back again. Hypersonic missile. Yeah, I know it's bullshit, isn't it? We can't even get SpaceX right. It keeps blowing up, doesn't it? It's Elon. Elon. Elon.

Elon. He's more concerned about... Yeah, I won't get into that. I'm your... The pedo miner. Murray, our mutual friend, keeps WhatsApp messaging me pretending to be either Elon Musk

or the accused Piedominer going, stop, stop, I'm not a Piedo. It's a wonderful character piece. One day I'll play them all out. Well,

he keeps, he keeps, he's got a range of characters. He's very, very good at them. Essentially, he keeps, and one day, I'm keeping them.

One day, we'll release a CD. So he keeps messaging you about the Tam Luan cave rescue. Yes, pretending to be... Which happened well over a year ago now. Pretending to be the pedo miner. Yeah, when I send you a two-month-old meme, you hate it. Yeah, but it's a meme that you haven't created.

He creates worlds with his pedo miner. And his Elon Musk he did do it he did do it he does all them Jeff Bezos he does loads of different characters

he did a brilliant tweet the other day I'm just going to look it up I absolutely loved it he said he tweeted the other day saying

I used to love my job as a DM I felt like a million bucks yeah bangers absolute bangers it's pretty good

it's witty yeah but you see Bellen's getting like millions of retweets for very basic you know piece of shit tweets and like

he doesn't get the love that he deserves I can't figure out really I can't figure out the algorithm Pete Donaldson replacement

mate look that'd be a Luke Moore replacement good old Murray James yeah give him a follow he's

Murray James on Twitter but he's five instead of the S at the end yeah that's probably why he gets give him a follow he's Murray James on Twitter but he's 5 instead of the S at the end yeah that's probably why he gets no traction I think he's got a promotion

so he's tidied up his tweets a little bit like all of you lot who are good at creative stuff you've got no admin skills no that's probably why he hasn't got a million followers

those people who've got a million followers are probably really good at the admin side a million bucks let's have a little break after that we'll do some emails email of the evening inside. A million bucks. Let's have a little break. After that, we'll do some emails.

Email of the evening. Can you be lazy and crazy? Text in. Yeah. Have you ever seen, one of my favourite ever videos on the internet is

Guar, the comedy metal band yeah I think one of them sadly I think is it Dave Brocky the main guy I think

he passed away fairly recently very sadly but anyway Guar for those who don't know are this metal band who all dress up in these mad science

fiction horror themed suits right have you seen them no okay I'll show you a picture you're like on the right of your

street Pete Guar are they like um Lordy yeah your street, Pete. Are they like Lordy? Yeah, sort of, yeah. They look like that. Yeah. So you can see, right? Yeah, like Lordy, yeah. Yeah, like Lordy.

And there was a... I'm sure Gua fans are going, I went there before Lordy. I think there's a... I know for a fact there's a brilliant video on YouTube and it's from the AV Club who are this kind of culture music

kind of website. The Onion, yeah. And they used to do a series of videos called I think it's called Recovered where a band would go in there

to promote an album or whatever and they'd have to pick a song off the list and once that song had been picked it was chalked off and no one else

could do it. So if you were in there late you were fresh out of luck basically. it. So if you were in there late, you were fresh out of luck, basically. Yeah. And Gwar went in there last one season, famously, and had to do Billy Ocean's Get Out of My Dreams, Get Into My Car. And it is fucking so funny.

Get it up on there. Plug it in. It's absolutely brilliant. Get out of my dreams, get into my car, Billy Ocean. And the main guy in Guar is dressed in this

ridiculous outfit of course he goes off on one about how the Billy Ocean lyrics are absolutely ridiculous he says I'll be your because at one point

he says I'll be your long time lover get it while you can and he's like why do I have to get it while I can there it is don't play that now

don't alright they got us playing an even more fucked up song than the one we did last year. I mean, at least... It's worth playing out. It's good. It had guitars in it.

But this one... But we're going to make it pure gold, and you people are going to help us. Give it a listen, because it's funny. You know what song we're playing? Oh, you're going to hate it. Actually, Billy Ocean is performing the song Oddway now. I don't get that.

It's the car horn, which is so good. Hear it. Get in the back car. Get in the back car. Brilliant. Brilliant Wait for the chorus The good thing about this is like the place they're playing looks like it looks like a meeting room

it's brilliant and every so often throughout as you probably heard you hear a car horn because the drummer who's dressed like a giant

space beast is playing the drums and squeezing a little car horn at the opportune moment it's brilliant anyway I can't remember what we were talking about that it's absolutely fantastic well worth a look so google it um we're gonna do emails won't we hello at lukeandpeachow.com uh to get in touch

george has been in touch as hello boys i have no qualifications on the subject but i'm fairly sure animals in particular dogs can smell pets on strangers this is based on the thing i said last week where can is it's just something people say, but can pets smell other people's pets or is it like an urban myth? George goes on to say,

I can say this with some confidence because I have a pet ferret. Oh, I love a ferret. Which lends me a general muskiness that even my friends can sometimes pick up on. We had a little, when I used to look after the ferret

at Twycross Zoo, I used to have a little, a little, what do you call it? A little lead for it basically when I used to look after the ferret at Twycross Zoo, I used to have a little, what do you call it, a little lead for it basically. We used to walk around the zoo with it.

You used to look after the ferret? I used to look after the ferret. I love that ferret. Probably dead now. What was it called? Can't remember.

Ferret. You used to walk around the zoo with it? I used to walk around the zoo on a little lead. Was it scared?

No, I was loving it, mate. Ferrets need a walk. Do they love getting stroked or whatever? Yes. He used to climb

all over my body. I mean, ferrets are fucking ridiculous. I mean, they shouldn't, I don't know why they exist.

There's no reason why they should exist, but they are beautiful little guys. But they used to have a little spray when it was getting stinky,

he used to spray it and it would cut down on its smell a little bit because they do absolutely pong. Yeah, well, George says it's not an entirely bad smell. Whenever I meet a new dog, they go mad.

They'll start running around my legs. I can't think of any other reason other than the ferret smell. Cats too can be wary around me, but as I have a cat as well, it could be because of that. Maybe one day I'll rub the ferret and the cat

on different items of clothing and see which random creatures in the park react. Yeah, do that, George. Because, I mean, if your friends are already telling you you stink like a ferret and the cat on different items of clothing and see which random creatures in the park react. Yeah, do that, George. Because, I mean, if your friends are already telling you you stink like a ferret,

then you might as well do it. Does it mean that I'm a true northerner that I really want a ferret? Because they used to have a ferret and a whippet, didn't they? It was kind of a thing,

wasn't it? Yeah, you used to have a ferret down your trousers. It was a thing for a while that I think... To me, it feels quite 80s. Yeah, so they're probably a bit older than that

because people say the flat cap and the whip it flat cap whip it but do you have memories as a kid of seeing people with ferrets then yeah I think so

I think I used to see a bloke who used to walk around with his ferret on him he didn't have a lead though he just used to be on him you've got

I mean that's very trustworthy isn't it of the ferret to not belt it yeah but keep it there was a guy in town

I think he might be a homeless guy he used to have a cat with him he used to sit on his shoulder all the time to me that's bizarre

because cats behaviour is very very opposite to that normally the guy in New York turban man with a cat on his head about 15 years ago

first time I went to New York saw all the sights but the only thing I could remember was a man walking down the street with a cat on his head.

There we go. What about this email here from David, who said, this is quite a good one, Pete, actually, and we mentioned him on Monday briefly, but he says, he mentioned Albuquerque and how Luke hasn't been,

but would like to at some point while discussing El Camino, which is the sequel to Breaking Bad. Last year, my son and I drove Route 66. Oh, I've done that. We had a brilliant time. It's very old. We'd encourage people to do that

at some stage of their life. In Albuquerque, we did a Breaking Bad tour run by former extras from the show in a converted RV, exactly like the one they cooked meth in. Excellent tour, made really interesting and fun by the two hosts. One was a DEA agent in the show,

and the other the waiter who handed around the poison drinks to the Mexican cartel around the pool. During the tour, they take you to loads of locations, including the laundry where they cook, Walt's house, the car wash, and Jesse's house. They even let off a smoke bomb so it looks like the RV is cooking, and also do spot quiz questions with a prize of a small bag of blue candy.

It looks like meth that Walt's made. All great harm is fun until a couple of days later, we were in Winslow, Arizona, of the Eagles song, Take It Easy fame, having a nice lunch in a packed diner on St. Patrick's Day when my son Michael dropped a bag of candy on the floor while we were talking to some middle-aged Americans. More than a little embarrassing, and I'm not sure they bought my explanation. We left as soon as we could. Albuquerque is a really top place.

Great food, weather, and friendly people. It's a bit out of the way but worth a visit and if you enjoy Breaking Bad it will make you want to watch it again. I love your show and look forward to every podcast.

Give it the good work, David. So Albuquerque is well worth a visit. Have you been there, Peter? I don't think I have, no. I've been close. But yeah, do you reckon like who made

not David Simon who's the guy who made Breaking Bad? Vince Gilligan. Vince Gilligan. Do you reckon's the guy who made Breaking Bad Vince Gilligan Vince Gilligan do you reckon the people who make Breaking Bad are a bit like

making money off my hustle effectively it's probably fully endorsed isn't it why why does it need to be though

probably doesn't need to be but I imagine Vince has got his finger in the pie and if it's the tour I'm thinking of Aaron Paul's done it he did it on Instagram and he was promoting it so I imagine it's got his finger in the pie and if it's the tour I'm thinking of Aaron Paul's done it he did it on Instagram

and he was promoting it so I imagine it's something to do with the actual thing but I just sort of think things like that you sort of think and there's probably rival ones as well

probably unofficial ones that have other extras from Breaking Bad why wouldn't you why wouldn't you do that awesome I would not want to live in Thingy's house though

because that would be a nightmare Jesse's house people would be throwing fucking pizzas on the roof and stuff oh that was that's aty's house though because that would be a nightmare. Jesse's house. People would be throwing fucking pizzas on the roof and stuff. Oh, that's at Walt's house, isn't it? I think there was an appeal for people to stop throwing pizza on the house

because I think people live there now. Yes. Walt and Skyler's house in Breaking Bad, I'm fairly sure it's just a normal house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the people...

The interiors would be completely different as well. That's a funny thing. Oh, what? Because the interiors are shot elsewhere? Yeah, we'll be on it. Well, it is generally speaking, isn't it? Like in EastEnders or whatever.

You just take a wall out, can't you? Yeah. I need to take a wall out. I guess it's probably... It needs certain specifications so you can actually shoot in there. Yeah. Did you see the...

I was listening to the podcast that... Oh, God. Who is it? It's Pam and the blonde accountant from The Office. They were going through, they started a podcast where they go through every episode of The Office, basically, and say what happened backstage and stuff.

What's it called? I can't remember. Is it a Stakhanov production, Pete? Let's say yes. Okay. Just another example. It's great content. It's all right. Is it just a kind of production, Pete? Let's say yes. Okay. Just another example. It's great content. It's all right.

But it's quite weird. They sort of said like the first, the pilot episode with a lot of TV shows, with every TV show in fact, because it's all done on set. They can just take a wall out to film a particular shot. But the pilot certainly was filmed in a functioning office. So everything was just kind of really shaky and dodgy and stuff like that.

I think that's what the UK, the Gervais and Merchant Bomb was, definitely. Cheap, affordable. Have you got any emails there, Pete, or shall we do another one? Yes, I've got an email from Ant in Alicante, which is wonderfully sort of alliterative. And I believe his second name is Ashworth as well. Enjoyable. Hey, hello, chaps.

Some time ago, now you mentioned you'd seen the staircase where the bloke goes on trial for pushing his missus down the stairs while claiming it was an accident. This is Ant who complained last week about our pronunciation of the place Harwich. Oh, right. He was Ant from Alicant. Was it? Yeah.

Yeah. Doesn't matter. Carry on. Suck it, Ant. It said that a few months later, when everyone had a chance to watch it, you'd comment on it. Well, I'd be quite interested in your comments and thoughts on the show because I found the bloke in question,

Mike Peterson, to be intensely irritating and physically absolutely repulsive. Oh, and his daughters were a pair of fucking freaks. My God. A little bit much, isn't it? Ant is just an angry bloke. Angry Ant.

He also goes on to say that I watched El Camino the other day and while I liked it, what struck me most was how much timber Angry Ant. He also goes on to say that I watched El Camino the other day, and while I liked it, what struck me most was how much timber both Aaron Paul and Jesse Plemons, Todd, were carrying. Yeah, I noticed it with Todd. He's much bigger now, yeah. I mean, we're all getting old, aren't we? I know, but it takes you out of it a bit.

Does it? Because El Camino clearly was a combination of new scenes and scenes that they'd obviously not included in the first series. Oh, is that true? Yeah, well, I don't know oh is it like a pre I'm not saying is it like a

what was it like a what was happening while all this stuff was going on no but it's what happens directly after the end of Breaking Bad

but it contains a lot of flashback scenes which are blatantly scenes that because they were right okay yeah they've got there and they haven't used

and some of them are decent stuff and it means that you get to see a couple of characters that you're excited to see but the ones that weren't it means that you get to see a couple of characters that you're excited to see but the ones that weren't

it was clear that Todd particularly was a lot bigger yeah maybe because he pumped himself up for another role or because he just put on a bit of beef

I don't know he was really good in Fargo he played a butcher I haven't seen that series in Fargo yeah the bloke Mike Peterson

his neck his skin as he starts to get old he just looks like he's going off a bit that bloke Mike Peterson his neck his skin as he starts to get old he just looks like he's going off a bit that bloke he has been in jail for like 12 years

yeah I mean I don't know we should be talking about how people physically repulse or something that's a bit unnecessary well I haven't started it

yeah but then you started talking about his papery skin well yeah but I think no but I think his appearance is secondary

to how fucking weird he is in the first place. Very strange. There's a lot of weirdness going on there, yeah. I'm a big believer in the owl theory, though. What? In the staircase. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah.

Apparently. It's an interesting theory, though. It's interesting, man. It's, I mean, we're grabbing for whatever we can there aren't we we're at hours grabbing Ant I look forward to hearing

from you next week about what's angered you in subsequent shows to come angry Ant's furious roundup every week famously did the song

at Scott and Charlene's wedding in Neighbours of course is that true it was angry Anderson wasn't it no I don't Arne Anderson

stabbed Sid Vicious I got stabbed by Sid Vicious with scissors anyway the did you read a bit in the newspaper

that once again people who Job and Act you know had a couple of had a role in EastEnders had a role in

I think Emmerdale and now she is a she works at B&M she works at B&M and like isn't that a horrible news story? Oh, it's terrible.

They've done that a few times now. Yeah, they have. Bizarre. Absolutely bizarre. I had a show with a guy called... What was his name? I'm going to say Jeremy Edwards, who was in Hollyoaks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice guy. Long time. Yeah, normal guy. Nice fellow. And he said he had the same thing, and this was years ago he told me this. He said that acting work dried up.

Getting a young son, I think, or a daughter at the time. So he went and did some labouring on a building site. Load of tabloid photographers turned up. And he was on the front page of The Sun saying, Jeremy Edwards, actor Edwards, hits rock bottom. I wasn't really hitting rock bottom. I was doing an honest day's work to feed my family. I don't really know why this is a story kind of thing.

So it's been going on for years. But also just the idea that people just don't seem to have any fucking idea about how much you get paid for a TV show. Hollyoaks is probably one of the few TV shows that pays because of just frequency. You do it all the time. You do it every week. But like most TV shows, you're in it for a few scenes. You get a all the time. You do it every week. But like most TV shows, you're in it for a few scenes,

you get a couple of grand and then you fuck off home. It's really hard work. I would never want to do it. It's impossible. And I also don't think... You've got to have a few strings to your bow. People can choose to read

whatever newspapers they want, of course, but I think it's worth remembering that tabloid newspapers don't care about you. They pretend to be on the side of the working class, but they're not. They don't give a shit. So they care about selling newspapers.

That's it. So the best way, and I had this conversation with my parents. My parents used to always take maybe The Sun. I think they used to take The Sun or The Mirror maybe.

Whichever paper it was. And the thing that really changed for them was when the news came out that Millie Dowler's phone had been hacked by a particular journalist at whatever newspaper it was.

And it was the newspaper they currently took at the time. And I can't remember the one, but it was that one. And my parents sat down and were like, well, yeah, you know, that for us was the straw

that came back. And I don't read it. I think they read The Eye or something. I can't remember. Yeah, The Eye is the rarer case. My dad pretends he doesn't read The Daily Mail.

He does read The Daily Mail. But my parents, what I'm saying here the reason I'm bringing it up is purely because it's purely because they realised that that was just the behaviour

it kind of writ large the behaviour of some people who work at newspapers and the worst thing about it is and I'm not saying

that everyone who works at newspapers is like that but just to get on my horse for a moment with the Daily Mail when you understand and have direct experience And I'm not saying that everyone who works in newspapers is like that. But just to get on my horse for a moment with the Daily Mail, right? When you understand and have direct experience of these industries in whatever form,

even if you just kind of brush past them and you know, and realise that actually 90% of the people who write for the Daily Mail are all London-based liberals, it shows you and should hit home to you exactly what their game is. Because the Daily Mail I'm telling you now is not populated by staff who believe the shit they're writing. They're just doing it because that's the editorial line of the paper and it's a job. They're all just like you and me.

They're all London based liberals essentially. And as soon as you realise that's the game, it should mean that what you're doing is completely pointless and you're essentially being mugged off. But it's mean that what you're doing is completely pointless and you're essentially being mugged off but it's interesting that the mini dollar thing was the turning point for your parents because obviously you know that that paper or most papers in general kind of have varying degrees of that of getting into people's lives that don't necessarily deserve it it's weird that

the phone hacking was such a watermark for a lot of people because Because I know people who've also stopped taking that paper because of... I'd be interested to see, Pete, if the circulation has gone down since that phone hacking thing. I bet it's back up to where it was before now. Yeah, I think from what I heard, I think for the longevity of stuff like The Sun, I think they're starting to curb some of their more extreme behavior just simply because advertisers... And it's how everything changes, it's advertisers losing their bottle on something. I think they're trying to make that happen

with Fox News and stuff as well. Anyway, let's get out of here, Pete. That's about time for us. I think we'll be back on Monday. Have a lovely weekend. We're going up to Leeds and Newcastle this weekend. So do come and find us if you want. RambleLive.com, there's still some tickets available.

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