The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.65: Vintage gauge tools

Episode Date: October 28, 2019

We start today's show by discussing the best ever tweets, before turning our attention to the late, great David Bowie's opinion on the nascent internet. After that Pete wants to talk Elton John- so we do that for a bit- and then we find out about the best birthday presents passed down from father to son.In addition to all this, Luke meets Pete's parents for the first time (a big step in any relationship) and we hear some of your stories as well, this time about the interior light in your car, 80s video games and lots more.To get in touch, it's: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

all right marshmallow matey's pete donaldson with you this is the luke and pete show i'm with luke moore we're back for a game of fun and laughter and joy ever after. Sons and Daughters, Sons and Daughters. Hi, mate. Hi. That was a TV show from the 80s. I think it was Australian Sons and Daughters. It used to be an unlovable alternative to Neighbours or Home and Away. Known as famously, I think famously,

if I may use that adverb, as it is, I think, an adverb, to describe this by saying that Helen Daniels of Neighbours fame, I believe started out in Sons and Daughters, Pete. What? You can't cross-pollinate. Mind you, there has been a few people who moved from home and away to It's a breeding ground. Flaming Galahs, a lot of them. And you're opening to the show here

and thank you very much to those listening. Very nice to have you along to this joint and quite lengthy midlife crisis that is the Luke and Pete show. Saying Marshmallow Matey is, of course, a reference for those who don't know to, in my view, certainly a top five tweet of all time. It's up there.

From Alex Andrea. I don't know who Alex Andrea is. I don't really need to know, I suppose, but he tweeted with a photo saying, this entire shelf of own brand cereals sounds like an old english army major trying to find a euphemism for gay men and the four cereals in question are frosted mini spooners tutti frutti's marshmallow mateys and honey nut Scooters. Oh, man. And I'll be honest with you. I probably would. I wrote its top three tweets for me.

I completely agree. I'll be honest. The 17.4 thousand retweets that's got is not nearly enough. No. It's up there with when who was the head of Sinn Féin? Gerry Adams.

Gerry Adams said that he had a real problem with his Christmas lights. Yes. Having to come into the house and turn his Christmas lights on and off when he left or approached his house. And somebody replied, I'm sure you can find someone who could build you a timer.

Yeah, it's very, very good. It's witty. It's witty. It is witty. And speaking of wit, Pete, you and I are here for another half an hour or so. Okay, yeah. What are we going to get up to? We're going to entertain people. We're going to make them laugh. Do you know what? Pete, you and I are here for another half an hour or so. Okay, yeah. What are we going to get up to?

We're going to entertain people. We're going to make them laugh. Do you know what? For fans of Luke and Pete's show, Canon, big, big news is that I met Christine and Stuart, a.k.a. Mr. and Mrs. Donaldson, for the first time last weekend. You did, yes. They came to one of the Ramble Live shows up in Newcastle after some haranguing. They really weren't into doing it,

but they came. They had very few comments about the content itself. Did they say anything afterwards? I didn't see them afterwards. I saw them the next day where they'd had time to... To let it sink in.

Yeah, I'm struggling. I'm kind of wondering what they actually took from it, to be honest, because neither of them are that into football and they didn't really have any comments to make about the actual show itself. So I just feel it was took from it to be honest because neither of them are that into football and they didn't really have

any comments to make about the actual show itself so uh i just feel it's just all a big waste of time so my mum is very much a i mean she probably won't thank me for saying this but she doesn't listen to this show so it'll be fine she's very much a kind of show wants to be like a showbiz mum so she's quite kind of like for her it would be perfectly fine to sit for two hours to see either me or my sister just sat on the stage right she's happy with that yeah oh my kid's actually doing something get the camera out yeah whereas my dad just likes to be outside because he's like an older dad so he's like great get to have a few beers brilliant as you remember he got quite drunk at the sheffield bush empire show um as he has every right to be yeah exactly so so i mean your parents did they mention anything about meeting me

or they didn't in particular no I can't really remember to be honest they're so lovely your parents they're such nice people I think

they kind of I always sort of think they're scared of things but then they also take some things in their stride as well I can't really figure them out my dad gifted me

with a set of vintage gauge tools in the Newcastle train station the day after. What is a gauge tool? It's just like, well, it was basically like, it looks like Freddy Krueger's finger. It looks like a little kind of crap Swiss army knife.

My dad gave us it and went, I found this in the loft. Because they're doing that thing every year where they try and reduce the amount of stuff in the loft, even though... My parents, mate. That phase. If there are any parents listening, if there are any parents listening,

I'm fairly certain there are, why are you doing it? There's no need to reduce the amount. There's nothing in your loft. Don't worry about it. When you go, we'll just burn it in the garden. We'll burn it in the garden.

You won't care about it. We don't care about it. We'll just burn it in the garden. Do you know what my mum used to do? She used to go up, she used to say, oh, last time you came to stay for the weekend, you left this t-shirt and

this pair of socks here, so I've put it in that bag for you. Just take it when you go. And in the bag, mate, will be like 45 annuals and VHS

videotapes and stuff I don't want in the loft and she's expecting me not to notice. But she doesn't see this stuff. My dad doesn't see

this stuff. It's all up there. Don't worry about it. It's fine. But my dad's allowed to keep his gauging tools. Well, I think this is a rich theme, as I always say. I think listeners should email us, hello at lukeandpeacher.com,

for kind of clumsy gifts fathers have given their sons. Because, or their daughters. We don't want to exclude the female listeners as well. But I remember on my 21st birthday, when everyone's having their 21st birthday yeah a friend of mine his dad so he broke with tradition in his family the mum and dad together would give presents normally that's the same in my family as well but his dad broke with tradition and just for his 21st birthday just gave him a drill brand new wrapped up he said, because essentially what he was saying was, you're a man now.

Have a drill. And a man needs a drill. Yeah. And he was like, thanks, Dad. I don't think he's probably, he's probably never had any cause to use it. Yeah. Drills are pretty useful, aren't they?

At that point, is it university still? You know, you're not going to be using a drill. The battery in particular is very, very heavy. Exactly. So there must be examples out there of gifts you've got. My dad once gave me a pacemaker. A pacemaker? What, for your heart? We used to work for a hospital. We used to work in the electronics heavy. Exactly. So there must be examples out there of gifts you've got. My dad once gave me a pacemaker. A pacemaker? What, for your heart?

I used to work for a hospital. I used to work in the electronics department. Wow. And of course, I guess that fits in the, I mean, I presume they come off the shelf, but presumably, they either took one out of someone.

I just remember I had these kind of like, parts that kind of moved. It was fascinating. Hang on a minute. Hang on a minute. Yeah. A second-hand pacemaker? Or a faulty one

I don't really understand to be honest yeah I definitely had one though that's Robin from the NHS what does it look like I don't even know

what it looks like well I just had a little google it it looks like that basically it looks like proper old school 70s with two kind of

aux cables going into it it just goes in the chest does it yeah fascinating I'll tell you my grandad had a stent put in

you know what a stent is like a little balloon blows up a little mesh kind of thing to open the artery up interesting anyway so I met Christian Stewart

very happy to do so you look very much like your dad close up I didn't fully realise that from the photo well my dad's lost a bit of weight rather scarily

recently because he's never been able to lose weight ever but suddenly his story is that his doctor told him

if he doesn't lose weight he's going to get put on a statin and he didn't want to do that and I'm thinking my dad doesn't

he's not a strong willed man let's say what's his diet like generally noodles and beer just hot noodles like my sort of abiding memory

I cooked roast or I got a roast cooked for me yesterday and there was some chicken left, and I was thinking, I'm not going to put that in the bin, I'm just going to eat the rest of, like, eat it off the bone, eat the chicken off the bone, secretly in the kitchen by myself.

But my dad used to, whenever my mum would throw the carcass of a chicken in the bin, my dad would haul it out of the bin and just kind of, like, graze on it. And he also, of course, is up during the midnight hours. So I think my dog might be a fox. He eats carcasses. And he's up at one o'clock in the morning.

So I think my dad might be a fox. Talk to me through your mum's Sunday roast. My mum's Sunday roast is a... You had roast cooked for you yesterday. Presumably your mum cooked it. No, no, no. Oh, okay. No, but we've talked about mum's Sunday roast before.

It's underwhelming. We've talked about Christmas roast potatoes, it's a slightly different subject. It was lovely to meet your parents. My favourite part of the whole evening, of course, we played a live football ramble show in Newcastle on Friday night, to pitch that, Mum and Dad came along. They turned up early, obviously to see you,

because I hadn't seen you for a while, and you showed them around, put them on stage, and they sat in mine and your seats on stage while we did the run through of all the videos. Adorable. And it was just

they were I've never seen two human beings look more confused as to why this was happening. My mum was like who made this song? And I went

I think technically I did. I mean I got the music. Which one? The song at the start. Wasn't it My Lyrics Your Music? Lennon and McCartney mate. No I think it was did. I mean, I got the music. Which one? The song at the start. Wasn't it My Lyrics, Your Music? Lennon and McCartney, mate. No, I think it was My Lyrics. No, it was My Lyrics, wasn't it?

I asked everyone to come up with ideas for what they liked. You gave me more of them because everyone else is lazy. It was me who rhymed dinner with winner. Yes, that was a masterstroke. It's going down as Lennon and McCartney on the vinyl, mate. It's a masterstroke. I watched the film about, oh, I watched it in bloody cold out and bloodyartney on the vinyl, mate. I watched the film about... Oh, I watched it in bloody cold out and bloody John, innit?

Oh, yeah. Fucking Reggie man. Rocket man. Reggie man. They should have called it Reggie man. No, Reggie man. Yesterday, and obviously there's a division of labour there with the lyrics. I'm thinking...

I wonder what their... What is it? Bernie Taupin, isn't it? Bernie Taupin. Is it 50-50, their agreement? Because he must be coining it in for... I mean, lyrics are important, but I'd say Elton John's lyrics aren't as important

as the super-sorrow-y music that he creates. Don't let Bernie say that. Well, I'm just saying. I mean, you don't go, oh, I love Elton John's lyrics. No. Well, I mean, I imagine he would say it's as important.

I'm sure he would, yeah. Yeah. But I wonder what their cut is, whether it's 60-40 or 50-50 or either way. He's having a lovely old time. Yeah. I mean, he's sold. I mean, how many records has Elton John sold?

I mean, come on. I think in the film he sort of says he was 10% of all of the records sold in the world or 5% of all the records sold in the world one year. Incredible. He sold 300 million records, so I don't imagine Bernie Taupin short of a few bucks, to be fair.

Was the movie any good? My mum really liked it. Yeah, really very enjoyable. And you kind of forget that, how many fucking songs that pair wrote together. Wow. And they're all amazing. And they're all amazing.

Done very, very well. Good on him. And for're all amazing. Done very, very well. Good on him. For a man who wears spectacles, a great spectacle hero, spectacle legend. So is that something you would look to as a man who also wears spectacles? Yeah, I think he over-egged the pudding a lot of the time. Got a bit of Dame Edna spectacles going on sometimes. He would travel

with so many different kind of like spectacles. Like spectacles with bits of hair on them and stuff. It didn't really... What do you make of it? I don't think enough has been made of that baseball outfit he used to wear. Yeah, banger. Absolute banger.

Yeah, it doesn't really get as much... I mean, if Bowie wore that, my God, it'd be iconic. Wouldn't it? That was... What baseball stadium did he play? I'm not sure. Because he's sort of one of those artists

that kind of was probably bigger in the US than he probably was in the UK, you'd say? I don't know. Yeah. Speaking of Bowie... I remember my dad telling me that one of his friends at work threw all of his Elton John records in the bin

when he found out he was gay. Really? Which, I'm sorry, two things. Obviously, that is a ridiculous thing to do. Yeah. And another thing, how the fuck didn't you know? Yeah. You absolute absolute prick my mum says

she talks with incredulity that they didn't really ever consider it yeah because I think he might have been married to a woman for a while and no one really questioned it it's funny isn't it

how things are so obvious in front of you but you don't know if you but speaking of David Bowie this is something I think people will be interested in I just want to play out this clip have you heard David Bowie talking about the internet

before the internet came about? Yeah, cool. I think people would have heard it. I'm going to play it because I'm not sure everyone would have heard it. I think the anniversary of his death, I think it sort of got knocked around. But let's have a listen. In 1999, David Bowie said this about the internet

when it was, of course, on this very nascent stage. I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg. I think the potential of what the internet is going to do to society, both good and bad, is unimaginable. I think we're actually on the cusp of something exhilarating and terrifying. It's just a tool though, isn't it? No, it's not. No. No, it's an alien life form. What do you think, I mean, when you think then about the future of... It's their life on Mars. Yes, it's just landed here. But that's, it's simply a different delivery system there.

You're arguing about something more profound. Oh yeah, I'm talking about the actual context and the state of content is going to be so different to anything that we can really envisage at the moment. Where the interplay between the user and the provider will be so insympatico. It's going to crush our ideas of what

mediums are all about. Amazing. It is incredible, isn't it? So prescient. But do you think he just got a bit lucky there or do you think he was genuinely very, very insightful about it? He was very into it and he sort of understood the power it could have but his voice there,

Dewey's voice, that's a lifetime of tabs in it. It's a laugh, the laugh. You can tell by the laugh. And also like whenever you get like a so-called serious journalist interviewing someone who's a member of the arts, or certainly the soft arts, like the rock and roll and stuff, they treat them with very little respect.

They treat them with a sneering lack of respect. From Paxman? Yeah. He kind of did that to everyone, to be fair. No, I don't think he necessarily did that. You say it quite a lot, but the respect people give the bell ends in the House of Commons compared to someone who's not.

It's like the perception of the fact that because he's just, in quotes, a singer or a songwriter, he wouldn't know anything about anything else. Yeah. Listen, if you predicted the internet and can prove it, hello at lukeandpeach.com

to email us in. We're going to read some more of your emails after this. Gentlemen, this is Democracy Manifest. In it just. In it just. Yeah, welcome back to Luke and Peach Show. Good to hear Julian Assange still kicking. Pamela Anderson on his tail, no doubt.

Steady. She probably is chasing him around. By the way, speaking of that kind of caper, ultimate interview flex from Joe Rogan last week. Have you got into Joe Rogan? No, I haven't. I haven't listened to it, but I saw that he did a three-hour interview with Edward Snowden.

That is a flex. That's a podcast flex, mate. But Edward Snowden's been on a lot of stuff lately, hasn't he? Because he's got a book to sell. I saw his book in Waterstones and I thought, that's going to be dull, isn't it? I can't do three hours interview with Edward Snowden.

I mean, the man doesn't live in a cupboard. Well, it's just going to be Joe Rogan talking about DMT and MMA and stuff and other acronyms. CBD.

Another initialisation. Yeah, CBD. Rogan is the kind of, he's the main guy for this though, isn't he? I mean, for some reason, but the thing I find, so I do a fair amount

of interviews, as I know you do in different circumstances, and I find myself doing it if he's quite a lot with people who are known, but I don't know them. So I've got a very short amount of time to get to know them, try and settle them in,

to get a good interview out of them. And it's hard, but for some reason, Joe Rogan seems to be able to get people for a massive amount of time, and he's able to talk to them about whatever they want and no one stops him. If I had that, I'd be brilliant.

I'd be really good at it. Yeah, but I mean, he's been doing that for a long time, hasn't he? And he's the hero of all the brawls out there, isn't he? And I also feel I've got a sort of slightly different opinion on the length of content and stuff from that point of view but also from like a written point of view if you if you look at um so joe rogan does three hours web of snowden there's no reason he can't be edited there's no reason you can't edit that down into a really amazing hour you're gonna make the same amount of revenue you're gonna have

so it's gonna be a far better pace more broad um appeal because it's not going to be so long because the amount of people who look at that video on YouTube and go, three hours, I ain't watching that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And it's the same with The Athletic, that new sports website, football website. It's great content, great people working with it. Obviously a really exciting project.

But my God, does it need a subreddit? I mean, there was a piece about Ed Woodward the other day, the Man United chief exec. I think it was almost 4,000 words long. But do you not read pieces like that, and it's like, I'm really enjoying this writing, I never want it to stop, and then it stops. You're like, oh, I'm going to have to go outside now.

It sucks. Do I not read pieces like that? No, I don't. Okay, then. No. Well, that's what you're told. What do you think about the length of Joe Rogan's interviews, Pete? I've only listened to,

I think a Bernie Sanders one and a couple of others. Do you do Bernie then? Oh, I can't remember. I can't remember. I did vote Bernie. What do you got? Well, Joe... He said something really weird.

He said something really... He was talking about how black people should deal with policemen stopping them. And he was just like, respect them, you know, respect what they're trying to do and stuff. He was talking about how black people should deal with policemen stopping them. And he was just like, respect them, you know, respect what they're trying to do and stuff. And he didn't come off very well. Right. A rare own goal from BS.

Big Bernie. Bit of BS from BS. Are you feeling the burn? I like burn. I was chatting to the lead singer of... Vampire Weekend. Love it. Lion King King soundtrack that's the only that's the only way

I can the Lion King soundtrack never comes up in the in the Elton John biopic furious that's a shame Circle of Life

come on when I first heard Vampire Weekend I thought I don't mind this but it reminds me of the Lion King soundtrack

which is I like the Lion King soundtrack but there's a gap yard in it gap yard yeah but they've gone a little bit different now that record is it Modern Vampires of the Lion King soundtrack which is I like the Lion King soundtrack but there's a gap yard in it gap yard yeah but they've gone a little bit different now that record

is it Modern Vampires of the City it's a brilliant record anyway sorry carry on I can't remember yeah Bernie Sanders yeah I like Bernie but the Vampire Weekend guy was saying he likes Bernie

does he he's been a long term Bernie and he sort of said and he sort of made some pretty he sort of said that he

you know you look at everyone's kind of voting record and stuff, and that's, he's had a very, very long career. He's not like a new kid on the block, obviously. He's just like a fucking heart attack for crying out loud or whatever.

Or a heart issue. And, yeah, you can, you can actually sort of look at that man's voting record and go, well, you know, nine times out of 10,

he's voted the right way. For your politics. Yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah, for, yeah, for yeah well yeah for a democratic for a democratic point of view you look at

other people like like who's the one who's embroiled in the big Donald Trump Ukraine investigation oh Joe? Sleepy Joe Joe B shoulder touch

obviously he people pointed out his voting record when it comes to, I think, segregation law and stuff like that back in the day.

And he's another man who's had a very long career. But he is a classic kind of older man who, instead of going, I've changed, people have the capacity

to change, and that's what America should stand for. He doubled down. He just doubles down. It's just unhelpful. If someone says to me do you like politics

I say yes I do like politics but what I really mean is I like politicians that make gaffes. That's my main interest in this. On goals and gaffes.

And he makes a gaffe. He loves a gaffe. You know me though Pete. I'm more of a Ted Cruz guy. Right. Emails.

Hello at Luke and Pete show dot com to get in touch. We love to hear from you. It's our favourite part of the show even if it's not yours. So we are doggedly going to hear from you it's our favorite part of the show uh even if it's not yours so we are doggedly going to stick to it now i think a lot of people do like

hearing the stories as well what about this from mike yes who says hi guys just listen to episode 199.62 the number's not important that's why we're kind of subverting it with this nonsense naming convention uh luke brought up a couple of annoying examples of random shit everyone says in certain situations. Yesterday I found myself being one of those annoying people. My young son was in the back of my very functional yet very boring for a five year old Vauxhall Vectra

trying desperately to reach the light above him to turn it on. Without even thinking I reflex turned into my dad and said don't turn the light on or the police will pull us over. Exactly what my parents always told me when I was a kid. I reflex turned into my dad and said, don't turn the light on or the police will pull us over. Oh. Exactly what my parents always told me when I was a kid.

I what's up some mates when we got home to ask if they were taught the same lie by their parents and a couple of them knew exactly what I was talking about. So what is it in me that caused me to keep this lie going for another generation? The same compulsion that leads me towards turning the thermostat down in all situations? I hang my head in shame.

Cheers, Mike. Now, my parents used to say that to me as well. Really? That's why I've dug this email out. Is this a law? Is this like if you kind of, if you do have your light on inside the car, that's somehow problematic to other road users?

I think what it means, I think, I was thinking about this on the way in. I believe that the genesis of it is that if you turn the light on inside and it's dark outside, you can't see as much outside. Oh, that's a good point.

Yeah. Yes. And the police will see you doing that and they'll pull you over and say you shouldn't really be driving with that internal light on. Yeah, because the reflection's from the inside

so you wouldn't be able to see. Yeah, good point. But have I ever actually known of anyone being pulled over for it? No, I haven't. So it could just be an urban myth. Have your parents not told you? Did they have a car when you were a kid?

They didn't have a car, so they couldn't drive. So you've never had a car? You've never grew up with a car? Never had a car. So I don't really, so when it comes to little towns near Hartlepool, I'm sort of kind of a little bit cloudy because we'd only ever go to places on a bus.

Right. On a bus or in a taxi. You're so unused to travelling in cars, is that why you left an empty crisp packet in my car last time? I did, yeah, yeah. That was foolish of me it's alright forgiveness mate

forgiveness brother you wouldn't know unless I fessed up I never would have known because I'd never get in the back of my own car Stephen has come up with an email

hello again lad I just want to add to the chat on this about the video games the tie in video games oh great yep not only do I fully remember the shaky,

shaken Stevens one, which was basically a Pac-Man rip-off minus the pills, but I seem to recall it's coming on an actual floppy vinyl record. Because obviously,

it's just a sound, it's just a sound file, Luke. Yeah. And every now and again you'd sort of hear about exotic kind of, you know, Luxembourg or Swedish radio stations

that would fire out at like 1am, they'd fire out a computer program that you could record or even just put straight into your computer and load it up. Hang on.

So a sort of early computer video game, it's just a sound file. Yeah. How does it present itself visually then? Well, it's like, so the sound file just represents the peaks and the troughs of the waveform. I mean, if I could manipulate my voice in such a way,

like that, to make it represent knots and ones for a computer to interpret, the analogue to digital converter converts that. You're already yawning. The analogue to digital converter converts the analogue signal to a digital one that the computer can understand, and then, therefore, it just... It's the same. It just represents knots and ones in a sound file.

I don't know if my brain can compute this. But it just meant that you could actually transmit programs over audio. Radio. Yeah, over radio, over audio, anything. So you could just record that, put that cassette into your video game, think of some of them, like the Amstrad was a cassette thing, right? And you could play it. Well, that's how you used to copy games, isn't it?

You'd have one of those boom boxes with two audio cassette boxes. And yeah, all you're doing is recording sound from one thing to the other. And that's why when you get a shitty tape where the sound is a little bit degraded, you get more errors and therefore it doesn't really work. Wow. I've learned something today. So that guy said that it came on a vinyl record. And Frankie, actually a pretty good game,

the Frankie Goes to Hollywood one, games on the old Spectrum. But there was also, and a couple of people weirdly have mentioned this, I don't know why, because I've never heard this before, my Give My Regards to Broad Street game based on the film of the same name with Paul McCartney.

Yes. I can't say whether that one was any good, really, as although I used to play it, I had a little to absolute zero idea of what you were meant to do in it, if memory serves. Who sent that email in? That was Stephen.

Yeah, so Nigel's also emailed in about this exact same game. He says, while listening to your normal drivel about 80s music video tie-ins, it reminded me of the uber-shy Paul McCartney game. I give my regards to Broad Street. I seem to remember this was a tie-in

with the equally crap McCartney musical vehicle of the same name. I can only recall small elements of the game, but you had to go around London tube stations trying to find bits

of McCartney's lost album. Living on the Isle of Wight in the 80s, the game seemed very cosmopolitan to me. Thanks, Nigel. So, people loving it. The Isle of Wight in the 80s, the game seemed very cosmopolitan to me, thanks Nigel. So people loving it. The Isle of Wight have got

Northern Line rolling stock on their train system, so it probably brought back a few memories. And if there was one way to make that particular thread more boring, you've just found it.

Yep, correct. The ex-Northern Line trains from the London Underground now are the trains in Isle of Wight, are they? Correct, yeah. Looks a bit like Paperboy,

give my regards to Broad Street. Paperboy was a classic though. Classic mate. If I went back to Paperboy now would I still like it do you think? No because it's

fucking hard. I have a couple of times because I cherished that game when I was a kid but I was never very good at it and I don't think anyone is any good at it.

It's an impossible horrible game. So you had to guide the kid on the BMX down the street avoiding all the obstacles. Throwing papers at people using pneumatic drills,

remote control cars, avoiding the grits in the road, and then at the end you get treated to a bit of a BMX off-road experience. Yeah, that's right. That's a great game. I completely forgot about the existence of that. An absolute classic. And in the arcade version, you didn't have a joystick.

On the premium version, you't have a joystick on the premium version you had little handlebars little handlebars my favourite my favourite ever arcade game was a game I got in trouble

with my parents for playing every day of our holiday to Mallorca as a kid a little arcade down the bottom of the swimming pool bit down over the other side

of the swimming pool and not the bottom of the swimming pool that would be mental and there was an arcade game and every kid every English kid or British kid who'd been there with their parents would be in there every day Not the bottom of this room, that'd be mental. And there was an arcade game in it. Every kid, every English kid or British kid who'd been there with their parents

would be in there every day. It was called White Tiger. White Tiger? Do you know of it? I don't. It sounds like Shinobi. It was an amazing platformer where you were a barbarian.

A barbarian? Yeah. Or was it Black Tiger? It might have been Black Tiger. Hang on a second. Let me just Google. I'm typing in White Tiger arcade. I'm Tiger? It might have been Black Tiger. Hang on a second. Let me just Google. I'm typing in White Tiger Arcade. I'm getting...

No, it was Black Tiger. It was Black Tiger. Oh, right. Okay. It was absolutely amazing. I'll play a clip of it for you now. Here we go. Wow.

Look at this. You basically have to go, Long ago, three dragons descended from the skies above with a rolling thunder and destroyed a kingdom into darkness from lengthy suffering and darkness of the kingdom came one brave fighter you should do voiceovers

Black Tiger and you had to do that it's like Gorse and Goblins Ghouls and Ghouls basically exactly like that yeah it was absolutely fantastic

bit of Turrican that was my favourite ever arcade game but Paperboy was right up there I used to love the Wrestlemania game as well but you'd have four you'd have four points where you could play four player

in like a big Royal Rumble. Have you seen the obscene brand new WrestleMania game that's getting pillories for being fucking awful? Why? It's because it's just awful. They haven't, well, they have player tested it

and they've clearly just not bothered to fix any of the problems. So like people's faces come off, people's faces come off, people's hair just sort of goes crazy, people glitch through the floor. It is incredible. If you're not familiar with video games,

if you're not familiar with this particular game, just everyone just glitches out. People just fall through um is it because they're under pressure to deliver it yeah exactly and they've got a new developer this year i think so people just freeze and kind of can just walk on it's just a big old mess just a big old shame it's quite realistic it does look quite realistic until you actually start playing it and it's just just just stuff like that happens it's bad she's just got floating eyeballs floating mouth

dear oh dear how can they in all consciousness release that to the public with DLC as well on that bombshell before our faces

fall off let's get out of here we'll be back on Thursday with another episode of Luke and Pete show telling our stories and yours as well it's great to talk to you

have a great week and we shall see you soon so goodbye Pete bye bye