The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.76: A Sense of Community

Episode Date: December 5, 2019

In the last of our much-vaunted, hugely well received Hands Across The Atlantic trilogy, Luke takes Pete through yet more Vermont news, including a story that is so far up Pete's street it might as well invent its own infant chip bowl helmet.Elsewhere, there's news from the World Sauna Championships, Pete tells us all about a £1 a night hotel, we discuss the much-maligned Disney movie Song of the South, and we find out what Pete is looking for in a neighbourhood when he eventually decides to leave Soho.To be a bigger part of this than you are already: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

it's the luke and the pete sure i'm the pete i'm joined by the luke down a phone line but to you it probably sounds like we're in the same room because we are technical wizards. Well, one of us is. Currently ensconced in a studio off Golden Square, speaking to Luke Moore over Skype. We had some real problems connecting to Skype a little bit earlier on, didn't we? You tried to play a trick on me, taking all of your clothes off because you wanted to see what I thought of you on the video. Yeah, I thought it was going to be a video call, but you put the kibosh on that side, it'll take up too much bandwidth,

so just do audio. And I'm standing there quite literally, Billy Bollocks. Billy Bollocks, yeah. And I thought, that's a shame, that's a shame. In your auntie and uncle's house, that is a bigger shame, I'd say. They'd have to expect it. Yeah, exactly. So you'd have your headphones on.

This is classic headphones on, cup of tea on the side situation you've got your headphones on you're effectively chatting with what can only be described as a cam boy and you've got all your clothes off and no one can everyone can just hear you cackling and laughing and you're completely naked talking on the internet

there's a phenomenal phenomena in this house I promised people didn't I last week I'd give them some more Vermont news because I'm still here and I will do that in a minute

but this house as I've said to the guys listening already is very large now I'm not showing off about that I'm not taking any credit for it

I'm just standing here for a week or so and it's just a big house and it's one of those situations where the owners of the house my wife's aunt and uncle they live here on their own and um they never go upstairs like the upstairs is never used unless

there's guests here so um and i was fairly i was fairly safe there's like a lock on the door and stuff and i told i told mimi i was going to play a trick on you it didn't work anyway no it doesn't matter um but the um listen some some more news from Manchester village, Vermont. A large part of the main road leading into the village itself, Peter, has now been freshly tarmac'd. And I can confirm, through personal experience, that it is very smooth to drive on. Have you got one of those musical roads

that kind of make the ground go up and down in kind of like a speed bump fashion, but it goes at a certain kind of frequency so it makes it sound like musical notes? Have you got one of them? I've never heard of that. Yeah, there's a musical road in America somewhere, but they messed up the measurements

and so it doesn't really sound like anything apparently. Love it. That's brilliant. And I've read the other day that there's going to be some technological advancements where there's going to be a way of taking the energy of people walking on pavement and turning that into kind of renewable energy.

I think I saw that in China or something. Yeah, very, very interesting. How much energy can you really kind of build with just a few people stomping down? And you'd have to sort of, you'd have to refit the potentiometers or whatever the hell you call them, those generators every single year or something.

It wouldn't work for me. The overheads would be colossal. But my wife will tell you, who's an expert in this field, she'll say the more people use them and the more they invest in them, the cheaper they'll become. So we'll see.

This house has actually got a cocktail bar on it as well, by the way. Yes. And the cocktail of the week, there's always a cocktail of the week, and the cocktail of the week this week is the apple martini. I don't mind an apple martini, Sarah.

I don't mind a martini at all, to be honest. I like all flavours of martinis. You show me a martini that I don't like and I'll show you a liar, quite frankly. And it'll be me. Well, listen, please, you can apply to me directly for the recipe, everyone listening. I'll happily send it over to you.

I'm enjoying... I've just Googled Vermont man again to see what else has been happening in Vermont recently. This is all from early November, all of these four stories. Repeat shoplifter arrested on felonies in Queensbury. Man sentenced for buying marijuana with intent to distribute.

Man accused of fatally shooting neighbour's dog in Danville. And also the snowboard pioneer Jake Burton Carpenter dies at 65 in Killington, Vermont. Right. A death in Killington going on.

My favourite Vermont headline that I found this week, chiefly because it reminded me very much of you, and I'm going to read this absolutely verbatim. Vermont man gains internet fame for his unnecessary inventions.

Like what? For the past two months, Matt Benedetto has been creating things you don't need. Like this contraption here. This is the cuisine curtain, Benedetto said. So if you know someone who is always eating with their mouth open, it attaches and covers their mouth so they can still eat with their mouth open.

Do you have anyone in your life that always eats with their mouth open? I've got one but just one that's the only one I can't really think of anyone which makes me think it might be me but I hope it isn't yeah it's a really disgusting habit I'm glad I got over it

I don't think it is me yeah very weird B I was going to say to you I've been listening to and now it's rare on this show it's rare that we will talk about

any kind of other podcast that isn't a part of the stakhanov stable and of course everyone should go and find um the new series of set meals which has just started started off in new york it's a brilliant show it's really really good obviously cameraman sam he presents it with his mate taylor and the first episode of the new season is about pizza in new york. It's brilliant. Anyway, go and listen to that. Subscribe to that. But anyway, this show, I've just started listening to a show,

which is absolutely fascinating. It's called You Must Remember This. Right. And it's about each series. Listen, I might be getting this wrong. I've literally only just discovered it. So people, if I get this partly wrong, then forgive me. But each series appears to be about a different aspect of Hollywood in the 20th century.

Okay. And the series is presented by a lady called Corrina Longworth. She's got a brilliant voice. And she's obviously a fantastic journalist and researcher and historian. And this series is about the Disney movie movie song of the south you know that movie i don't song song of the south most people have never even kind of heard of it right and what it is is this this movie from 1946 set in the immediate period after the civil war in the u.s and the reason that hardly anyone's heard of it

is because it's been delisted it's unavailable chiefly because it's got a huge amount of problematic racist tropes okay so it's like it's set on it's just it's really really um kind of um like i say problematic and it's but the reason it's kind of of note and of interest is because it flies in the face of Disney's reputation of being this family company who make all these type of shows, movies, sorry. But also, technologically for the time, it's very, very advanced because it's interplay

in a kind of few-frame Roger Rabbit style between real-life action and cartoon. But you can't watch it anywhere. advance because it's um it's interplay in a kind of few frame roger rabbit style between real life action and cartoon but you can't watch it anywhere you can't it's never been released available it's never been available on vhs video it's it's essentially like disney are pretending it doesn't ever it doesn't exist right okay yeah and the stories the stories around it are fascinating because one of the main characters in it is played by a lady called Hattie McDaniel who won, she's a black woman who won an Oscar. She's the first black actor to be nominated and win an Oscar for her role in Gone With The Wind

a few years before. And she plays, again, a really sort of horrible, racist stereotype in the movie. And Carina Longworth in this series, You Must Remember This, talks about the story around how Song of the South got made. It obviously touches on the, I'm going to say racism of Walt Disney himself, who was this mad, he got really into the idea of hunting communists down and, and he bought into that McCarthy witch hunt kind of thing. It's just a fascinating period of time around a fascinating, interesting movie. It's well worth a listen if you get a chance, anyway. Yeah, I'm just looking at the actual poster for it.

And there's a couple of other... The one way people might know it is they might know it because it's the basis of the Disney ride Splash Mountain. Yes, okay, right, I see. With Br'er Rabbit and Br'er Fox and what they've done to that ride

over the years is they've changed that to make it less stereotypical but they've maintained the ride there and they're quite proud of that ride

but it's based on Song of the South which they won't even acknowledge even exists so it's worth a listen that show yeah he was

wholly problematic for a very long time wasn't he old Walt Disney it's worth a worth a listen that show he was wholly problematic for a very long time wasn't he old Walt Disney very uneasy kind of I've got a lot

of grown up people who are really big into Disney and going to Disneyland and stuff

because I guess it's one of those places that kind of changes quite a lot so you probably can get a lot out of it each time you

visit because things change around so quickly and obviously you can't see it um you can't see everything over a week even because it's so big so it probably would be would worth um would be worth it's very tired would be worth going more than one occasion but uh i've never understood i really enjoy it i think it's a great place it's interesting you just gotta get into it man you can't go in there with this kind of British, alternative, cynical kind of mindset. And if you're going to do that,

just don't bother going, because it's not for everyone. Yeah. Last time I went there, I had a brilliant time. What a lovely old job. Because everyone's so happy there. Yeah. That's the thing.

Like, everyone around you is so excited to be there. It's kind of quite infectious. I quite like the fact that they allow some characters to speak and stuff. So they've got these incredibly talented actors playing like Elsa from Frozen and Belle from Beauty and the Beast and stuff. They're actual people, yeah.

Yeah, they're incredible, some of them. Like, just so good. Did I tell you a good bit of a more family trivia? No. Well, I don't know. My sister was Buzz Lightyear at Disneyland Paris for like three years. Is that right?

I have no idea. I had no idea that was the case. I guess you would need someone like, I guess, I bet there are a lot of male characters in like big kind of suits that are played by women because obviously they're a little bit more slight. Yeah. Ah, fascinating. My sister was Pluto and Buzz Lightyear.

And she was Maleficent in the parade as well. Nice. Did she have any... parade as well nice did she have any did she have any lines as Buzz Lightyear or did you he just didn't he just never spoke to infinity

and beyond they're not allowed to speak even if a kid ran into her and cracked her on the knee no I don't think you have to I don't think you're allowed to kind of get involved you get one of those annoying

kind of bully kids who the kind of kid that you think I was when I was a kid. Yeah. But I wasn't. But I wasn't. Who would like try and pull his mask off or something. Yeah, exactly.

I don't think you can do anything. Because I'm pretty sure they have quite subtle minders, don't they? Yeah. They kind of step in. They step in from behind like a tree or something. To protect the Walt Disney brand. Lovely. Yeah. But there's still the, I think my sister took us a memento. a step in from behind like a tree or something to protect the Walt Disney brand lovely yeah

but we there's still the I think my sister took us a memento if you want to call it that she stole it a a Pluto collar

which we've still got hanging up in my mum and dad's house oh nice that's good that's awesome did you see the did you see the one dollar hotel Luke are you familiar with this

no there's a hotel in Fukuoka I think it is and basically it's you see the one dollar hotel luke are you familiar with this no there's a hotel in um fucker walker i think it is um and basically it's right in the middle of the entertainment district so it's a really good um place to stay uh but basically this guy had a um failing hotel brand probably i got about eight or nine rooms um and instead of him kind of putting his prices up or putting them down, he put them right down to $1. And the only catch is you can stay in the room as long as you like

for $1 a night, but the only catch is all of the rooms are streaming on the internet to whoever wants to watch. Huh. That's interesting. $1 hotel. Check it out if you can. Is there a bit much take-up? No, I mean, yeah, like I've sort of popped into the old YouTube page where he can be found.

Not a lot of people seem to be getting involved, so I fear for this venture, but there's a man, I think, going to, maybe waking up for the day now. I guess that kind of works, isn't it? Yeah, it's six in the morning, so this guy's just put his futon away on the tatami mat, and he's getting ready for the day.

He's got his shirt on, he's ready to head out. Would you stay there? Yeah, I reckon so. I'd give him the works. Listen, mate, they'd be absolutely fuming, you and I. You'd be enough to kibosh the whole thing. Well, that's what I mean. It's on YouTube, so you can't be doing anything naughty.

But what if I suddenly started doing something naughty? Practising your raps in the mirror. Practising my raps, my street rhymes. Spitting bars. Busting your moves. Yeah, exactly. Very interesting. There was a thing, wasn't there, a few years ago,

I think it was about five or six years ago in Liverpool, where a lot of the dilapidated, run-down areas, the council were letting you buy a house on those streets for a pound. Right, okay, yeah. But the kicker was you had to pledge, I don't know, like 20 grand to renovate them, and you had to sign to say you would renovate it. So ultimately what they're doing is that these properties, because no one wants to live there, the houses are worthless, essentially.

They're essentially doing it in a way that guarantees the area's going to come up. Yeah, okay. But I don't know how successful it was or how many people did it. There was a report or like a story a while back saying that some of the places are now worth like £70,000 each, which is pretty good given that they only cost a pound.

Oh, that's amazing, yeah. I mean, yeah, everyone has to sort of pull together. I do worry about what the state of community is in 2019. I do worry about everyone pulling together. What's because you live in Alcantara Street? Because I live in Alcantara Street. You're the only person who lives in Soho? No, we

are a tight-knit community of the man who doesn't speak to me in the booze shop over the road, the man who doesn't speak to me in the deli downstairs, and the man who doesn't speak to me in the booze shop over the road, the man who doesn't speak to me in the deli downstairs, and the man who doesn't speak to me in the Spanish restaurant downstairs, too. We are a tight-knit community, Luke. Do you know any of your neighbours' names?

No, I sometimes talk to the Italian guy from the Italian deli. He's nice. He comes in for the post every now and again. So we get along. What are they like in the chip shop, Pete? Are they friendly in the chip shop? They once gave me a free jumbo sausage.

Lesson about that, the better, my friend. What do you think community is then? The next place you move to, what would you like it to have in terms of a community feel? I don't know. When you walk down the street people say hello to you um does that happen in Hartlepool?

no not really in Hartlepool maybe a little bit I think people in cities in like Manchester and Newcastle make a point of sort of saying we're nicer than the rest of the country so we're just going to say hello to you all of the time to make a point yeah to make a point that people are friendlier up north

yeah in the US like people if you're walking down the time in the small to make a point that people are friendlier up north yeah in the US like people if you're walking down the street in the outside obviously outside the big cities

if you're walking down the street and someone's walking towards you they will generally say hello to you yeah and they'll and I've noticed

like certainly you know when we're away in Milwaukee for example like people you just be walking past and people go I love you

I'm talking about Milwaukee all the time I love your coat it's talking about Milwaukee all the time. I love your coat. It's, I like your coat. Oh, really? Yeah, and it's like, I mean, imagine if you just commented on people

as they walk past. I like your shoes. I find what happens to me a lot here, because obviously I'm still in the US as we record this, is that obviously, again, outside of the big cities,

if I go to a shop or somewhere with Mimi, people obviously get why I'm there. But if I'm on my own so she's doing something else and I go to the shop or I think I'm pick something up or whatever people would I mean even 2019 people were generally kind of interested and a little bit surprised that they're hearing someone speak with like a London accent yeah and they'll and they. And they'll almost always say, oh, where are you from? What's that accent from?

Yeah, yeah. And you're, say, from London. What's that about? But they're very interesting. I don't think British people would be like that. If my hometown, if an American turned up at my hometown on their own and started shopping there,

I don't think a British person would ask them why they're there. No. No, just get on with it, I guess. But, yeah, I do appreciate that side of America. I think it's a wonderful trait to have.

It makes you feel really welcome. So next time you'd like to, when next place you move to you'd like people to say hello to you and be friendly with you

and maybe ask you where you got your haircut from and all that rest of that stuff. Well they'd know because there'd only be one Mr.

Toppers in town. And that would be the place where we You wouldn't be able, listen mate, if you move from London to say, I don't even want Mr. Toppers in town. And that would be the place where we... You wouldn't be able to have... Listen, mate, if you move from London to, say, I don't know, Farram in Hampshire,

you ain't going to be able to rock around with that haircut, mate. What do you mean? You'll be known in the town as the bloke with the haircut. What was your famous trait when you were back at home? What were you, the man that? The obnoxious

man. The man who steals the opinions. Alright, let's have a quick break and when we come

back we'll do some of your emails guys. Take a moment, make yourself a cup of tea and we'll see you on the other

side of this. Alright then. Welcome back to the Luke and Pete show with me Luke Moore coming at you live from the beautiful Green Mountain state of this. All right, then. Welcome back to the Luke and Pete show with me, Luke Moore, coming at you live from the beautiful Green Mountain state of Vermont.

And I am in London rubbing my knee. I don't know what's happened, but in the last 10 minutes, my knee has got really tight and it feels like there's loads of rubber bands behind my kneecap. I don't really know why it's doing that, but yeah, we're getting through, aren't we, Luke?

We're getting through. We're getting through this transatlantic pre-record on that note with your knee problem there Pete you should have been there when I

ramble meets over on football ramble daily which you should subscribe to now if you don't already all the shows you'll ever need

for your football interests I ramble meets interviewed Gary Lewin my name is Gary Lewin yeah okay who was the head of physiotherapy

at the England football team and at Arsenal for years. And he's such a nice bloke that after the interview, me and cameraman Sam chatted to him and he diagnosed all our sporting injuries.

What was the story? What have you got to do? Is it just about running or...? Oh, he reckons I've got some problem with my left knee which makes me compensate on my right-hand side, which is making my groin and my hip tight.

Ah, I see. So he gave me all these exercises to do, which I haven't done, to be honest, Gary. If you're listening, I apologise. But Gary's just opened a private clinic, so I imagine that consultation he gave me probably would have cost about 300 quid, so I should really use it.

Yeah, exactly. You're absolutely getting complete and utter freebies. What have I got free, Rhys? I got given some CBD oil. I've tried that for the first time. Yeah, yeah. It's the difference between, I think CBD is the stuff

that chills you out and the THC is the stuff that makes you high. So as long as it doesn't have any of that in and it's only got the first thing in, it's cool. And yeah, it's alright, actually. What as long as it doesn't have any of that in, and it's only got the first thing in, it's cool. And yeah, it's all right, actually.

So what have you used it for? Getting to sleep on a loud, old cotton street night. It really works, though. It's good. Well done, everyone. Do you use earplugs, Pete, to sleep? I do occasionally,

but I mean, most nights I'm pretty, I can pretty easy get to sleep. It's pretty easy for me to get to sleep because I've kind of got a little, I think my it's pretty easy for me to get to sleep because I've kind of got a little I think my brain's kind of attuned to whether it's worth

getting up and looking out the window because there's always somebody shouting or people fighting and I've got like a rule if I hear but doesn't it wake you up

how many times a night does it wake you up no that doesn't wake me up or if I wake up and I can hear sort of going come on then come on

like people doing that I know for a fact a fight is not going to ensue, so it's not worth me crawling down the bottom of my bed and looking out like a little wretch. But if I hear a... Like that, if I hear just the slapping of face on concrete, fight's on, fight's on, baby.

When there's an actual fight going on, people occasionally don't know what to say or do. They're like... Like that, so... Will you always watch a fight? Is it your policy to always watch a fight? When there's an actual fight going on, people occasionally don't know what to say or do. They're like, oh, oh, oh, like that. Will you always watch a fight? Is it your policy to always watch a fight? Yeah, come on. Someone's going to out themselves in the line of being pissed and angry.

Why not? How many fights do you reckon you've seen in total since you've been living there? Out the window? I reckon I've probably seen about 10. But like full-on fisties. How many people? What do you But like full-on 50s. How many people? What do you mean?

Like one-on-one. There was no doubling up. It wasn't Double Dragon. It wasn't just a man going down the street having a fight with everyone he saw. It was like a really big boss man at the end of the street. A man broke through the bricks. Do you remember that in Double Dragon?

Yeah. Yeah, it's good, isn't it? Yeah, it's a brilliant game. I used to be a big fan of Streets of Rage as well. Yeah, so Double Dragon was, the love interest was a woman who, I was listening to a show about it actually, in the plot to Double Dragon,

you go through the whole game fighting, I think it's like Death Adder or some kind of horrible character, sort of boss character. Kick everyone in to save the princess effectively. But you're obviously going along with your brother.

It's the two Lee brothers in Double Dragon. And then the ending is you fighting your other brother. Fighting your brother Lee, well, one of the Lees. And the winner wins the heart of the woman.

So it's a bit of a menage a trois kind of going on. That is weird. That is weird, isn't it? It's not right. I don't remember that part of it, but probably because I never got to the end of it, I expect. Yeah.

I love that old, there's something very nostalgically satisfying about that kind of dynamic when you play an 80s arcade game where you beat people up and there's a big boss at the end oh yeah massively and and and did you ever sort of get to the end of like an arcade machine i could never afford it to be quite frank i was in i was in one of those um kind of barcade kind of a bar arcade cross thing in an unnamed american city that i won't mention because you had to call me but I had loads of tokens

because they were only like you know 10 cents each I had loads of tokens I was thinking I could just keep on filling this super sprint machine with dollars

and get through this money is no object to me when it comes to that in 2019 the jeopardy of it has been removed jeopardy's gone jeopardy's gone

as I said to you guys I've probably said to people of this show listening to this show before in 2019. The jeopardy of it has been removed. Jeopardy's gone. Oh, yeah. As I said to you guys, I've probably said to people of this show, listened to this show before, the greatest ever arcade game, in my opinion, is the Capcom game

Black Tiger, which was known in Japan as Black Dragon. It's like a platform game. It's amazing. I don't really remember that. It's amazing. It sounds like Shinobi.

Yeah. It's like a kind of... Well, the plot, I'll read the plot to you. I mean, it might be translated from Japanese. It might be rubbish. This is the plot according to what I think

is a translation from a Japanese kind of synopsis. The land is under the cruel control of three evil demonic dragons who descended on a kingdom bring darkness and destruction. From the ruins emerged a barbarian hero who seeks to slay the dragons and restore the kingdom to its former glory.

Nice. I like that a lot. It's brilliant, mate. Strong. It's a hack and slash, mate. Very strong. Hack and slash. Yeah.

Don't see enough of those. Anyway, we're going to do some emails, Peter. Oh, sorry, mate. Yeah. Do you want me to do one first? Yeah, you do one first. Well, first of all all before I do the email I want to do

I just want to read this one out from Billy because I do think it's important and some people are going to roll their eyes but I don't care

it's important we're a week out from the election in the UK if you're not a UK listener that's kind of just you're going to have to just hold

your nose for a minute and Billy's emailing so I know you guys don't want to get stuck into politics but I wondered if you might go above and beyond your role as a public service broadcaster, in

my eyes at least, and the general election is coming up in the UK and I wondered if you'd give a shout out and encourage people to register to vote. Oh, fuck it, we can't do that because the deadline was last week. Yeah, but like That's how political we are. Look, there's registering to vote

and then there's actually getting off your behind and voting, isn't it? So it's two different things, isn't it? But listen, I want to make it absolutely clear that if you want to register to vote now and listening to Luke and Pete's going to make you do so, you literally can't. No, but if you are registered,

do remember to go and vote. It's a chance for you to see see be in a schoolyard where you're probably not allowed to do as an adult it allows you to be in it allows you to be in churches or or mosques or uh or temples that you'd probably not frequent so it's it's a it's a lovely um chance to go into a building you you probably wouldn't be allowed in any other way so yeah and also put a put um use pencil and paper People don't use that very often these days either. Exactly. You could probably steal one of their little pencils. And look, whichever way this goes, I think we all know which way it might go because there's a lot

of secret little self-hating Tories out there, aren't there? Getting their little kicks in the voting booth. Oh, there's one of them on this show. They get in there, they get in there, they say all the right things,. They get in there. They get in there. They say all the right things. And they get in there and they put a little X, don't they? Put a little X next to the Tories. Your dirty little secret.

Dripping. Dripping with it you are. Dirty little secret. Dirty little rotters. Dirty little rotters. There's another reason to go and do a bit of voting as well if you've already registered.

Do get off your backside because you get a chance to go and chat to a very nice old lady normally. You do. Sometimes young. How often do you get a chance to do that? Exactly. Right.

Yeah. And these will be people from your parish. Speaking of that. Yeah. Speaking of that, we will do some emails in a minute. I met a hundred year old lady. Okay.

Right. Wow. So it's the first time I've ever met a centenarian is that centenarian um my wife's uh parents live next door to a lovely lady called madeline and she's lived there for obviously next to all of them for years and years and whenever we come and visit um we go and see her for like a cup of tea and see how she's doing she lives on her own We go and see her for a cup of tea and see how she's doing. She lives on her own.

I found out just before we were coming out here that in January, this coming January, she turns 101. That's amazing. She's 100. Is she still up and about? You'd never know it. She looks about probably 85-ish. I got a photo with her. It's the first time I've ever met someone who's made it to 100.

How good is that? That is really good. Is she still up and about? Is she doing stuff? Yeah. Oh, cool. She's in great nick. She lives on her own. how good is that that is really good is she like is she still up and about is she you know doing stuff yeah oh cool she's in great Nick

she lives on her own up until very recently she was playing golf driving a car with the rest of it I told you she probably she could pass for about 85

I'd say you reckon oh yeah yeah we played ball games with her when we saw her she was perfectly sharp she's great she's a lovely lady

so if she listens to podcasts which I doubt, shout out Madeline. Wicked, wicked experience to meet her. I've never met someone who's 100 before, so she's pretty interesting. Have you ever met someone who's 100? No, I think the oldest person I've ever met was my nan, and she was 96. I stopped seeing her after that.

I think my grandad says that I met my great-great-grandmother when she was 100, but I was only like two months old, so I'm not really counting that. Right, yeah, you can't count that. Not having that. Rubbish. Anyway, we've got time to probably do one email,

so I'm going to do it now. Okay. It's from Ewan, who says, Hi, guys. In episode 199.71, Pete mentioned an Airbnb room he stayed in which had a sauna. And Luke dropped a fact about saunas in Finland being plentiful.

I guess this is when you're in Helsinki. And Ewan goes on to say, I thought I'd bring your attention to something I found out a few months ago called the Sauna World Championships held in Heinola. It's as simple and as stupid as it sounds, it's a competition as to who can sit in a sauna for the longest amount of time. Now, this sounds pretty interesting.

Pretty dangerous. And it's quite a good story, but for people listening and for you, Pete, this is fair warning, this story becomes horrific. The starting temperature is 110 degrees Celsius and half a litre

of water is poured onto the coals every 30 seconds until there's only one person left able to stay in the sauna that person then becomes the sauna world championship champion on the 7th of august 2010 russian finalist and former third place finisher vladimir ladizhensky and finished five-time champion timo calalkonen passed out after six minutes, both suffering from terrible burns and trauma. According to a spectator, Kalkonen was able to leave the sauna with assistance,

but Ladizenski had to be dragged out and almost immediately went into cramps and convulsions. Ladizenski died despite resuscitation attempts and Kalkonen was rushed to hospital and put in a medically induced coma. Needless to say that was the last ever sauna world championship

as Kyle Conan and Ladizhensky were disqualified for not leaving the sauna unaided and therefore third place Ilka Poirier became the winner.

Keep up the humid work Ewan. So I mean my first observation on this Pete they're all men aren't they? Yeah oh yeah

that's all you're going to get, really. You're not going to get any of the crud on. Yeah, no one would have crooked up for that, are they? I love the fact that they're in a situation where, you know, one man's dead, but the stickler's for the rules. Like, you can just have too much of a good thing, guys, you know. Saunas are fun, saunas are great, and it really wakes you up after a long, hard day, the rules like you can just have too much of a good thing guys you know sauna's a fun sauna's a great

and it really wakes you up after a long hard day but guys and you're right what do you reckon the third place

guy who ended up winning what do you reckon his winning speech was sorry I probably won't do this

again he's the reigning champion effectively of the final sauna championships as he glances along around his newly found fame

in a world of essentially death and burns. He is the one-eyed man in the kingdom of the blind, that guy. Bloody rancid. Never mind. Well, we don't have enough time to talk about the Milwaukee Milverine, which is a man who walks around with his shirt off like the Wolverine. So maybe we'll save that to another day where we haven't spoken quite so much about Milwaukee

yeah let's do that again another time the next time the good news is next time we do a show I'll be back lovely so we'll we'll do it in the studio together we can glance

across at each other make eyes at each other and gesticulate to each other thus making the show far more easier to produce smash ins all right have a great weekend everyone and thanks for getting in touch we will read more of your emails out next time Alright, have a great weekend everyone and thanks

for getting in touch. We will read more of your emails out next time when we have a bit more time. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com to get in touch. Peter, you can have the honour of getting us out of here. Look after yourselves and if you are going to go into a sauna, just keep an eye on the time.

Bye! an eye on the time. Bye. Bye.