The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.81: Tea experts in Lebanon

Episode Date: December 23, 2019

It's officially Christmas week which means that Luke and Pete are changing, well nothing at all really. It's more of the same old LAPS from the PALS, and we start by doing a deep dive on Frankie Cocoz...za. And we can safely say we're the only podcast anywhere in the world doing that this week.Elsewhere, there's some talk of trains, Peaky Blinders chat, Pete's found a picture he likes of an old fashioned diving suit, and a listener emails us with a 1,400 word email about the tea drinking habits of different cultures around the world. Drink it in.Email us: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How do you like these festive opening times? This is the Luke and Pete show, me Pete Donaldson and presenting to you for one night only, one afternoon only, one morning only, depending on when you are listening to this, Luke Aaron Moore! That is the best entrance and intro you've given me
Starting point is 00:00:32 in our 48 years of working together. What are our festive opening hours, Pete? We're just pushing on through, aren't we? Pushing on through, breaking on through to the other side. Yes, nice. What do you reckon? This is a pre-rec show because you're going away. Where are you right now?
Starting point is 00:00:46 I mean, you say I'm going away. Are you not going away? Are you not visiting Portsmouth at any point? Yeah, only for a couple of days and I'll come back. Well, that's the thing, though, isn't it? It's like I'm having a bit of a problem getting home because... Trains are up the spout. I bought three months ago my ticket, or two months ago,
Starting point is 00:01:00 my ticket for the Grand Central train. Went first class because I thought there'll be a bit more room there. They did not assign me a seat for the journey. So now they've
Starting point is 00:01:11 emailed me saying you might not get on the train because it's standing room only. Huh. Fucking jokers. That's annoying.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Sell the seats that you've got and don't sell any more. How much do you shell out for that? 150 quid. That's unbelievable to stand. So I've got it so it's and it's the only day I can get and don't sell any more. How much did you shell out for that? 150 quid. That's unbelievable!
Starting point is 00:01:26 To stand? So I've got a... So it's the only day I can get back on Monday. I genuinely was looking into flying. But the journey that... There is a direct flight to Newcastle, but then it's just getting back from Newcastle down there as well. It's just... I wish I'd planned this better.
Starting point is 00:01:44 It's a shit show. I wish I'd planned this better. It's a shit show. I wish I'd planned more of a shit show. The shit show. Why don't you hire a car? Because I can't drive. You will not get caught. I'm telling you, you won't get caught.
Starting point is 00:01:53 They'll be looking for drunk drivers, not bad drivers, or non-drivers. Yeah. This is what Skyscanner suggested on one of the options I could take. 6.40 in the morning on Monday, flying from Heathrow Airport to Edinburgh,
Starting point is 00:02:09 and then from Edinburgh, fly down to Southampton, and then Southampton up to Newcastle. How much? Probably cheaper than the train. Yeah, it is cheaper than the train, yes. How can it be so bad? I know I'm going to sound painfully naive here
Starting point is 00:02:23 as a southerner, but how can it be so difficult? Well, Hartley puts to sound painfully naive here as a southerner, but how can it be so difficult? Well, Hartlepool's on a funny line, so we don't have the option. You've got to change at Darlington and then Thornaby and then once again to get to Hartlepool. I mean, how many loops of Chris Rears driving home for Christmas are you going to have to listen to on that kind of journey?
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'm almost thinking I should just get a train to Darlington and just explain to the angry man that the train I've got on is the train I had ordered is full. Just do that. Alternative. They won't stop you. They won't find you for that. I don't think.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I might just hang out in Kingstross and just get on any train going north. It's getting to the point where it's like, you know when the Chinese have to go home for Christmas or whatever national holidays they've got, I guess New Year and stuff, and some of them have to stay on the train
Starting point is 00:03:11 for like 24 hours and they wear nappies so they can just wet themselves with impunity. Are you looking for an excuse to wear a nappy again? A little bit, yeah. The problem is
Starting point is 00:03:21 I wear such tight trousers you could be able to see the contours of my pampers. You would, yeah. They probably do make them in your size, though. They make nappies in anybody's size, really. Do they? The thin fabric of society fell apart last week as well.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I was out with some friends, only for a couple of afternoon drinks, and I ended up wanting to head home about 5pm. Got as far as Victoria, which for those listening who don't know London very well it's one of the main um stations serving the south of England and we're asked to get a train back to where I live and um it was mad because got the Victoria line to Victoria went up the escalator and it was like the end of days yeah no trains like no zero trains this is. This is a train station
Starting point is 00:04:05 with 25 platforms or whatever it is. No trains. Electricity problems? It's something to do with, yeah, maybe. But, it was so busy,
Starting point is 00:04:12 not only could you not get a train, you couldn't get back down to the underground because it was about 200 people deep trying to get back to the underground. Right. Which is basically a waste of time. And you couldn't get a bus
Starting point is 00:04:22 because there were just throngs of people covering all the roads outside. They didn't give you any information on the Victoria Line to tell you this so otherwise
Starting point is 00:04:31 I would have just stayed on the Victoria Line. Anyway, to cut a long story short, it was just so busy because it's a big Christmas shopping day, the Star Wars premiere
Starting point is 00:04:37 had happened, was happening and this thing with Victoria. I had to walk for 30 minutes to get far enough away that I was able to get a bus or a cab or whatever. It was absolutely ridiculous. And imagine if you had
Starting point is 00:04:49 loads of bags and a lot of kids or whatever. I was lucky. I only had a backpack and a couple of bags. I mean, it was just absolute chaos. Did you walk over Battersea Bridge? No, I didn't. I didn't go that way. The reason I was in London is because keen listeners to the Luke and Pete show will know that I've been doing this taskmaster thing and on wednesday of last week was the final
Starting point is 00:05:11 okay yeah yeah yeah and um the only instructions i got through the post for this particular one task 12 of 12 bring your passport no luckily it wasn't that bad luckily it wasn't that bad it was try and get a train from victoria no it was, it was be in zone one at 1230 and await instructions. And I did that. I had a meeting and finished it about quarter past 12.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Went literally stood on the street corner until 1230. Looked at my phone. WhatsApp came through from the taskmaster and the task was find the taskmaster.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Right. Okay. And you could ask questions and every 15 minutes you got a visual clue. And you had to be the first person to lay hands on it. That's a nice idea. Yeah, it's okay. And you could ask quick questions and every 15 minutes you got a visual clue. And you had to be the first person to lay hands on it.
Starting point is 00:05:47 That's a nice idea. Yeah, it was good. And he ended up being in a pub, obviously, found him drunk. He's quite sluggish with the answers
Starting point is 00:05:55 after a while. It only actually took me 29 minutes to find him. Where was he? He was in a pub called the Glass House Stores on Brewer Street. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I would have gone for Central because it's just easier for everyone, isn't it? I think even a responsible taskmaster would produce a place that everyone could get to. My mate,
Starting point is 00:06:09 he was told to go to Zone 1 and wait. Now, the taskmaster doesn't live in London so he's obviously, to him, Zone 1's going to be what? Soho, Leicester Square,
Starting point is 00:06:17 Comic-Con. My mate went to Borough and waited in Borough. Yeah, that's not right. I was like, it's taking me ages to get here. What would you expect? What do you expect? Go to the centre. Come on, give yourself the best not fair. I was like, it's taking me ages to get here. What would you expect? What do you expect?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Go to the centre. Yeah, exactly. Come on, give yourself the best chance. So I was crowned Taskmaster Champion. Oh, congratulations. I got the trophy on the Mount of Peace at home. Congratulations. Yeah, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:06:33 It was a lot of hard work throughout the year. What were the visual clues? I'm fascinated to see whether I would have got there. The first one was the photo of the interior of Piccadilly Tube Station. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And he said in the line he was in a pub and the interior the Piccadilly tube station. Right. Okay. So he said in the line, he was in a pub and the interior of Piccadilly station. Yeah. Then there was another, the next photo was a photo of the, of a, a poster of a production, like a West End production.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And you could look at what theater it was at and see that the pub was on the same road. Right. Okay. Yeah. And then after that, I literally went to every pub on that road until I found him.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I would have liked my odds on that one, to be honest. I'm quite perceptive and geeky about stuff. The irony being that when he said he was going to, I asked him a few questions on WhatsApp,
Starting point is 00:07:14 and he said, and he had to get some items as well to take to him to get fair extra points. And he said he was near Soho, and I thought he was going to be in Spanish Bar, because I also asked him
Starting point is 00:07:24 if it was a pub relevant to... Your past. Yeah, and he said yes. Right. I thought he was going to be in Spanish Bar because I also asked him if it was a pub relevant to your past and he said yes I thought it was going to be in Spanish Bar which is on Oxford Street north of Soho so I just legged it
Starting point is 00:07:32 all the way to north of Soho and I just replied and then I messaged are you north of Soho no are you south of Soho yes
Starting point is 00:07:38 I had to run it all the way back down the meeting I had was 400 feet from where he was sat in London that's mad Soho's quite a movable feast, I find, in the way.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I direct some Belgians to Carnaby Street recently. Is that a euphemism? How much you pay for that? Yeah, exactly. Will you help me direct some Belgians? If someone comes to you and asks you for directions and you don't know, what do you do? I get on my phone.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Do you? Yeah. You don't just bluff it? Nah. See you later? Nah. Get on my phone, help them out. Help them out.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Nothing is more embarrassing than just saying, I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Pete, have you seen, I want to get away from being so London-centric. There's a story that I saw in the news last week which will infuriate you. Right. And it's accompanied by a baby wearing a flat cap as a picture. Is it going to be babies of the Trotter Independent Trading Company?
Starting point is 00:08:32 No. He wears a flat cap, doesn't he? Although, if you want a little bit of niche info, and hopefully listeners will enjoy this, do you remember Frankie Cocosa? Oh, was he an X Factor? He was an X Factor. Was he like a naughty boy?
Starting point is 00:08:45 Was he naughty? Did he swear or say something racist? Frankie Corcozza did. He was the most affected contestant on X Factor ever. And I realise that's a fucking long list. Was he a bit mid-naughties kind of? He was really mid-naughties. He was kind of like a really safe, affected.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Version of the Libertines. Yeah, like Pink Dockley type character. He released a song called She's Got a Motorcycle. I'm going to play it to you. So you can, just so you can hear it. Look at him. What a cheeky little Cockney. So who could forget such a seismic
Starting point is 00:09:37 She's got a motorcycle and she won't let me ride it. She's got a motorcycle by Frankie Coccozza who I believe either got kicked off of X Factor or left
Starting point is 00:09:45 Smoking the reefer? Under a cloud What was the cloud? A cloud of reef? Smoking the old dube Yeah And he also released a follow up single
Starting point is 00:09:53 to She's Got a Motorcycle called Catastrophic Casanova Did he? Which failed to chart sadly Anyway the whole thing is building up to the idea that I saw a picture
Starting point is 00:10:00 of him yesterday Right With his top off and he's got a Trotters Independent Traders tattoo. Has he really?
Starting point is 00:10:06 On his chest. Magic. He was born in Brighton. What's that about then? Can anything be more mid-naughties than
Starting point is 00:10:12 that? Anyway, hit TV drama Peaky Blinders has had an influence on Scotland's most popular baby names. I don't know any
Starting point is 00:10:22 of the characters in Peaky Blinders. Arthur and Tommy were the two biggest risers one from 46th to 26th and one from
Starting point is 00:10:30 89th to 48th in 2019 inspired by the BBC drama set in 1920s Birmingham Peaky Blinders how do you feel
Starting point is 00:10:40 about that Pete Peaky Blinder how do you feel about that I've never watched any it's the sort of show that I would have watched if it was on HBO. But because it was on BBC, I'm very snooty and sniffy about the BBC's drama output.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I see it as somehow being safe. And I'm losing out, quite frankly. One of the lessons, one of the few things I learned from... Well, you got very upset about the idea of there being a Peaky Blinders convention. I didn't get really upset. It was just a bit, it's just a bit low rent. If you've got to do it, do it properly. How would you do it?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Well, I've never seen Peaky Blinders, so I'd have very little frame of reference. Do they have motorcycles? But one of the few things I learned, or I remember learning at university, is that, you know, the different audiences at different media things target is really interesting. The example was used was that if you swear before the watershed on Channel 4, generally speaking, there's no complaints.
Starting point is 00:11:33 But if you swear on ITV before the watershed, people go mental. And the implication then, I'm not saying it's correct, I'm not putting a judgment value on it, the implication there is that ITV viewers are less intelligent and therefore more reactive to that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Is it not that people who are a bit more intelligent think that people on ITV shouldn't be subjected to foul language because they think they can't handle it. They're not grown up enough to handle it. Is that a hot take? And it's all a bit tawdry. Is that a hot take for you? A little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I saw someone on Twitter the other day. Through my classist lens. I saw someone on Twitter the other day. Through my classist lens. I saw someone on Twitter the other day saying that the Luke and Pete show takes are so lukewarm these days. Oh, cool. I mean, he's had a go at you there, hasn't he? Basically, yeah. Through your name. Can I just point out for the jury that she's got a motorcycle, was from the album The Motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:12:24 At the end, Frankie rides a, so he spends most of the video, yeah, look, we shouldn't punch down too much on this, but Frankie. He's having a lovely time
Starting point is 00:12:33 in Australia. His son was born in May 2019. He's doing fine. New father, Frankie Cagosa. I'm sure he won't mind a little gentle joshing. A little gentle joshing. But Frankie spends
Starting point is 00:12:42 most of that music video with his hands in his pockets, kind of leaning into the camera putting on a estuary accent but the culmination the crescendo of the video
Starting point is 00:12:52 if you like is that he rides a motorcycle through a burning ring of fire cool budget but the video's
Starting point is 00:13:00 at great pains to show that it's actually him doing it oh right so he puts the helmet on he's looking he might even give like a nod and a wink to the camera But the video's at great pains to show that it's actually him doing it. Oh, right, okay. So he puts the helmet on, he's looking, he might even give a nod and a wink to the camera,
Starting point is 00:13:10 and then he rides through the ring of fire. Can you actually see his face through the ring of fire? It's a nod to Johnny Cash, he's a big Johnny Cash fan. One can only imagine what the follow-up single Catastrophic Casanova sounds like. He's got an email address on his Twitter page. It's fracacorsouk at live.co.uk. You don't see that very often anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I mean, how do you feel about people who've still got a live or a Hotmail email address? I don't mind it, to be honest. The product's probably improved exponentially since I used Hotmail. I had to stop it because it had so much junk. Yeah. I think you've always got... I've got about five or six emails that I've had to just give up on because... I bet you have because it had so much junk. Yeah. I think you've always got, I've got about five or six emails that I've had to just give up on
Starting point is 00:13:46 because of grot. Yeah. Can I also bring to the table something that's been a real weight off my mind over the last week is that The Apprentice has finally finished
Starting point is 00:13:57 and the bloke who really looks like me and is a bit of a sort of cockney twit, that means I never have to hear from him anymore. No, he didn't win. He might be back in a kind of... I follow him on Twitter. He't mean I never have to hear from him anymore did he win no he didn't win he might be back
Starting point is 00:14:06 in a kind of I follow him on Twitter he's a great follower on Twitter he seems like a lovely lad but I just get endless
Starting point is 00:14:10 what do you mean Katie Hopkins he might be back as like a reactionary maniac no he's too nice he seems too nice yeah he's not
Starting point is 00:14:19 he's not a complete dickhead he's a gentle he's a gentle dickhead yeah he's like a lovable kind of rogue type guy.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So I don't think he would ever want to offend anyone, really. Okay. How's your favourite chef in the chef competition going? That was literally like listening to my nan. And how's your favourite chef
Starting point is 00:14:38 in your chef competition going? How's your favourite cook on the cooking programme? Yeah. Do your parents understand the job you do? Do they get what it is? Not now I've left the radio. I don't know why on the cooking programme. Yeah. Do your parents understand the job you do? Do they get what it is? Not now I've left the radio, no.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Why? I just wondered because my nan, sadly not with us anymore, but my nan wouldn't really know what I did. No. It wouldn't be in her frame of reference. No. What would you,
Starting point is 00:14:58 if you're, for example, if Stuart was asked now what you did for a job, what would he say, do you think? I don't think he'd really, I don't think he'd have much of a reference about how I operate we certainly have similar sleeping patterns
Starting point is 00:15:08 yeah can I interest you in a 17th 18th century diving suit yes now that's amazing look at that
Starting point is 00:15:16 yeah it's amazing why the detail on the chest I think it's just where they have got extricated the person out of it maybe they've got to be stitched in or something.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Basically, it looks like, if you remember the 90s TV show, Whiz Bit, it looks a bit like Whiz Bit, but made from animal leather and a big tube to the surface, presumably a big rubber tube that goes to the surface, presumably supplying some kind of air to the person.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's wonderful. So in a weird coincidence, which you would have no way of knowing in advance, the national, the diving museum, the UK diving museum, is actually like five minutes from where my parents live. Right. And so there's loads of stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And they've got a few of the early diving suits outside on a display. And you have to be like almost astonishingly brave to be a diver back in those days like I mean just to the point of stupidity essentially because it's
Starting point is 00:16:08 I mean it's essentially just right this might work well especially because like you presumably couldn't take a photograph down there you could only go back up and go you will not believe
Starting point is 00:16:16 what I saw down there unless you'd been in one of those diving suits you wouldn't have seen it so you wouldn't believe what's down there this might be apocryphal
Starting point is 00:16:23 but isn't it wasn't there talk that the first question that Yuri Gagarin was asked when he was the first person in space was, did you see God? Because people just know, there's no kind of,
Starting point is 00:16:35 people just didn't know what was going on. Yeah, so he saw his big face. He was looking down. He said, hello, Yuri. I said, hello, God. He looked like Brian Blessed, who at that point was probably about 15. Pete, let's have a little break and then come back with some emails. I've got hello, God. He looked like Brian Blessed, who at that point was probably about 15. Pete, let's have a little break
Starting point is 00:16:47 and then come back with some emails. I've got one, Pete, about Mega Man 3. Okay, cool. Hey, y'all, it's Farmer Meemaw. And today, I'm going to show you what I've been doing to take care of the pantry moth situation. So shrill.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So very shrill. It took a listener messaging me typing farmer me moth for me to know even what she said there. So that's strange. Hello at lukeandpeachow.com
Starting point is 00:17:14 is the place to get in touch. Send us things you like. Send us things you don't like. Send us your opinions on Camille Cabello's racist language. Oh, so what is the story there? I think when she was 15 she posted a few things on her Tumblr.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I read a few of them, and I was like, oh, she's 15. And then there's a lot of them. Oh, really? Okay. There's a lot of retweeted racist gifs. My God, she was fixated. Wow. I mean...
Starting point is 00:17:41 Such a talent as well. I love Camille Cabello. She's excellent. But is there... I mean, I'm not making excuses. I love Camila Cabello. She's excellent. But is there... I mean, I'm not making excuses for it, but is it now... Is any part of this a reflection of the society we now live in where young people have always been online
Starting point is 00:17:52 and not been able to make their mistakes as kids? Because there is an age of criminal responsibility present in the UK. I know she's not British, but you know what I mean. What do you think about that? Yeah, I think it's difficult. She was 15. There's a lot of them on. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:10 It's the scale that surprises me, to be honest. It's not just one or two, Luke. She seems very fixated on KFC and watermelon. She seems very, you know, it just seems to be, you know, oh, jeez. Wow. All right. Well, listen, Ewan from Aberdeen has been in touch
Starting point is 00:18:26 and he says, hi guys, you're reminiscing over Sonic the Hedgehog's music reminding me of some of my favourite video game themes and one of the best
Starting point is 00:18:33 in my opinion is the opening theme to 1990's Mega Man 3 on the Nintendo Entertainment System. Even if you're not familiar with the Mega Man franchise
Starting point is 00:18:41 and you are presumably, Pete? I'm not at all if I've't played one the tune is worth the 31 seconds it takes for the beat to drop I can imagine this being
Starting point is 00:18:49 reworked into a club classic absolutely outstanding I'm going to try and play it and see if we can agree with you and from Aberdeen here we go oh no I can't because I'm not logged
Starting point is 00:19:01 into Spotify Pete if you feel for a bit I'll get it well one of the composers on that game, Mega Man 3, was Yasuaki Fujita, and he has worked on Final Fight, Round 4, Industrial Area 1. He's worked on The Little Mermaid game,
Starting point is 00:19:19 Who Framed Roger Rabbit, some big Disney franchises, but also a game called Punky Skunk. Punky Skunk? Punky Skunk? Punky Skunk. All right, let's have a go at the Mega Man theme tune. Apparently it takes 31 seconds for the beat to drop. We're probably not going to get busted for royalties on this,
Starting point is 00:19:32 so let's just go with it. I think you'll be all right. Oh. Not as I expected. Let's get down and fight those bad boys now. I like this. Shooting your gun with your helmet. Here we go. Come on.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Let's get down to it. Don't mind it. Yeah, I quite like it. Mate, get down to it. Don't mind it. Yeah, I quite like it. Mate, he's from Osaka. These are Osaka flavours. Things are going on. People are partying. People are rocking out.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's a different frame of mind down there, yeah? It's like the Manchester of England. Just let it breathe, baby. Let it breathe. Very good. Thanks for sending that in, Ewan. It reminds me of a guy. There's a singer-songwriter. I don't know if he's still around. Let it breathe. Very good. Thanks for sending that in, Ewan. It reminds me of a guy. There's a singer-songwriter.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I don't know if he's still around. Called David E. Sugar. Okay. And he wrote a song. I think it's called We Weren't Put Together. And he used to do this thing that he used to call 8-Bit Rock. Where he used to have a Game Boy that he had rewired. And he attached it to his guitar like a pedal.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah. And he was honestly really very good we went and put it together by David Sugar very very good song it reminds me a bit of Mega Man 3 so maybe that's where
Starting point is 00:20:51 he got his inspiration I find chiptune tunes quite dull there I said it there you go there I said it you've got an email there Peter
Starting point is 00:20:59 I have got an email for you Augustus Winsock we're kind of quite relaxed it must be because it's Christmas week thank god it's Christmas I did a pre-record I've got an email for you. Augustus Winsock. We're kind of quite relaxed. It must be because it's Christmas week. Thank God. I did a pre-record for my final bit of Absolute Radio yesterday.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And it was a Christmas Day show. And I was full of the joys of spreading. I think it's the best thing I've ever done. But do you think... Well, that's very good. And you can use it in your showreel. But do you think people listening who aren't aware of the radio industry know that you're not actually working on Christmas Day?
Starting point is 00:21:27 No. People are quite naive when it comes to that I find that yeah I've got I've got you know it's 11 p.m. I've got the lead singer the Smashing
Starting point is 00:21:35 Pumpkins coming on and Billy Corgan and people are texting in I'm going of course it's pre-recorded yeah Billy Corgan is not hanging out
Starting point is 00:21:42 with me at 11 o'clock at night Billy Corgan is very unlikely with with me at 11 o'clock at night Billy Corgan is very unlikely to adhere to your schedule but blossoms will but Pete do you not have to
Starting point is 00:21:51 give some kind of disclaimer to stop people texting in no that's dodgy isn't it what do you mean I'm not soliciting questions if I text in so play a song brother
Starting point is 00:21:59 and you're never going to hear it because you're long gone you're on the train to Hartlepool tough titties right tough old titties right tough old titties
Starting point is 00:22:07 some people have to learn the hard way Casper in Australia hi Pete and Luke long time listener first murderer not really sure what that means did you say something about a windsock Augustus Windsock
Starting point is 00:22:19 do either of you or perhaps one of your many many listeners that's all begging the pudding remember an animated road safety campaign from the late 70s, Yes, I Am That Old, which featured an old man on a bicycle teaching his wayward kids how to turn right when riding a push bike. The old man was called, I think, Augustus Windsock.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And after he completed the safe right-hand turn, the end line of the ad went, that must be why he stayed alive so long. That must be why he stayed alive so long. That must be why he stayed alive so long. None of my friends believe it was anything more than an e-fueled fever dream and my YouTube digging has proven fruitless, but I'm sure it was
Starting point is 00:22:54 a thing. Help me, Obi-Wan, you're my only hope. Five stars and a succulent Chinese meal to you both. Casper in Australia. Would you like to hear the advert in question? Have you found it? I've only found it in the narrator by Kenny Everett. Oh, OK. Right, yeah. Cool. Well, here we are in Oak Apple Road to see Augustus Winsock,
Starting point is 00:23:13 the oldest living cyclist in the world, overtaking a parked vehicle. What a superb opportunity this is for all young cyclists to see the master in action. What elbows. What knees. This is like a cartoon of an old man riding a bike. God, I miss Kenny Everett. He makes a signal. Nothing sloppy there. Absolutely clear to anything coming behind. And now he moves out so he can see ahead. Slows up to let traffic go by.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And now, smartly past the vehicle and tucked in again close to the curb. When you see an action like that, so gracefully, so correctly performed, you understand just why he stayed alive so long. It's good. So long. So I thought it would be Kenny Everett doing a parody of it,
Starting point is 00:23:53 but it's actually Kenny Everett just doing the advert. I mean, I'll make it funny, Chris, you've clearly got the internet because you've emailed us. Yeah. Luke found that in minimal 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And that's me, by the way. That's Luke, yeah. He's not even got YouTube premium. If Luke or Pete had to be entered into some kind of internet speed challenge
Starting point is 00:24:12 we would not be entering me. My friend Daniel he does a back in the day when there was that what was it 411
Starting point is 00:24:22 what did you used to ring to get Oh, ask me anything. Ask me anything ask me anything I'll know what you're doing kind of information services I can't remember the number he was like one of the few people
Starting point is 00:24:29 in the country with internet or decent in it anyway and he would get paid to just do the searches I think they paid you like 40p an answer
Starting point is 00:24:36 because I remember me and my friend Duncan 40p an answer seems very high me and my friend Duncan who was the taskmaster the aforementioned taskmaster we looked into doing that
Starting point is 00:24:44 because we had no job after uni. And maybe not 40p, but I remember it being a thing where you could actually go and do it as a job. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Isn't that kind of fascinating how, you know, they tell that story, I can't remember who
Starting point is 00:24:58 tells it, about Kodak's share price. Right. Like it was, they were a really good profitable company. And then like in record time because of technology, they just went completely obsolete. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And obviously that can happen. Fair smash of arrogance as well. I'm sure. Not moving on. I'm sure. But in this case, isn't it mad how a company or an idea like that
Starting point is 00:25:18 is almost, at the same time, really, it's kind of revolutionary and new, but then instantly out of date yeah yeah straight away so the spike
Starting point is 00:25:29 would be what six months but again they must see that coming but then they'll still they'll be telling themselves that are all people want to go on the internet and it's
Starting point is 00:25:35 probably true for a few more years after that but still yeah the boom the boom the people who sell fascias for mobile phones yeah another one I guess they've moved on
Starting point is 00:25:45 to just covers but it's still a worry send your suggestions in hello at lukeandpetech.com for something that was simultaneously
Starting point is 00:25:53 really futuristic and new and also almost instantly dated because that's a great example of them but I remember going
Starting point is 00:25:59 mad about I used to get one every Christmas for like 3 or 4 years I'd have a Portsmouth one and I'll change it out for another one.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It's good stuff that. Let's squeeze one more email in. This is a bit of a blast from the past here. And it's from Brian in Lebanon.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Love that we've got a listener in Lebanon. And it's about tea. Remember we talked a while back about tea and how different countries drink different types of tea.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And Brian says, Hi guys, I'm right in regards to episode 198 where you two were discussing international tea drinking habits. Luke was surprised at how Scandinavians don't put milk in their tea. And Pete said most of the world don't use tea bags and it's probably a predominantly British thing. I'm here to say, says Brian,
Starting point is 00:26:41 that tea customs are varied across a lot of different cultures. As Luke said, Americans don't really have an affinity for tea and usually tea heat hot water in the microwave and throw a tea bag in there now i've not got experience of that and i've spent a lot of time in the u.s so maybe that's a different part of the u.s to what brian's um talking about he says i live in lebanon tea bags are also very common although we do use loose leaf tea here as well depending on the source my partner is half half Russian and Russians drink tea by adding hot water to a concentrate called Zavarka. This Zavarka is essentially made
Starting point is 00:27:10 by bruncopious amounts of the chosen tea in a big decorative pot called a samovar until a thick dark liquid is obtained essentially super concentrated tea. A small amount of the concentrate is enough for one cup of tea and so you just drop it in there kind of as and when. Nice. A very similar practice also happens in middle eastern countries though
Starting point is 00:27:28 the container is less elaborate and ornate and almost the whole of the middle east from turkey to iran drink teas in tea in very small cups this ensures the tea you're drinking never gets cold that you're constantly having to refill from a hot sauce concerning milk i believe the british are the primary protagonists of that particular tea consumption method. Although maybe in the Commonwealth this is a more prevalent practice. I'm not particularly fond of tea myself. Seems not a fucking lot about it, Brian. And my wife
Starting point is 00:27:53 always gets incensed and threatens divorce whenever I add milk on the rare occasions that I do partake. Keep up the good work, Brian. A tea expert from the Lebanon. What other show this week are you going to get out from? I remember back in the day I used to buy, I can't remember, a very 70s product, I simply can't remember. It was like this concentrate of coffee.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You just pour that into a cup and add a bit of hot water and milk. That's kind of how a Keurig works, right? What's Keurig? Keurig, you get little pots with liquid in them, and you stick them in, you put the thing down, you press the button, it squeezes it. Is it liquid or pit or powder? I think it's liquid.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Are you sure? Yeah, I think it's liquid are you sure yeah I think so wouldn't that kind of be have storage implications who knows listen you know you get salmon fishing in the Yemen
Starting point is 00:28:33 you know you've got two experts in the Lebanon exactly let's get out of here let's go let's go and thanks for everyone sticking with us
Starting point is 00:28:41 for this multimedia Christmas week special of Luke and Pete show we'll be back on Thursday, which is Boxing Day. Maybe we'll talk about some of Pete's Boxing Day traditions. They'll all be filthy and most of them will be alcohol soaked, I'm sure. We'll see you on Thursday. This was a Stakhanov production.

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