The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 199.83: Bone the Meshes

Episode Date: December 30, 2019

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So you don't have hangover? No. You've got a cold? Yeah. Have you had enough vegetables? Why's that good? Why's it good? I worry about you.

I have, uh, regular shentrums. Welcome to the only podcast that is 100% racist, according to Stormzy. A very niche and British reference. So niche, I don't even get it. Oh, really? Have you not heard the news? Stormzy said, Stormzy was asked in an interview, right? Does he think that Britain is racist? Right.

Presumably talking about institutions and some of the people. Stormzy said, yeah, 100%. But it was reported as Britain is 100% racist, says Stormzy. So he's being pilloried and pariahed in the press with idiots because of just misreporting. And he just basically went, right, the next time the fucking Daily Mirror needs anything, they can go fucking whistle on whoever it was.

Does he need them, Pete? He doesn't need them. Does he need those jokers over at the Daily Mirror? He's got a crown made of words. Yeah, yeah. That's how cool he is. Have you got a crown made of words? Don't think so.

Do you know that... It's a Burger King hat. It's made of cardboard. Actually, when I get the big beard, I do look a bit like the Burger King. The Burger King. Yeah. I think I told you my friend of an ex

had the Burger King helmet, the actual king they use, you know, like the people that do the adverts. Yes. They've got the actual king. Like a plaster of Paris type thing.

Plaster of Paris kind of, yeah, like a plastic king and obviously it's got these beautiful robes and stuff and it was their job to get it dry cleaned and apparently it costs

like 400 quid to get it dry cleaned every time because this guy was in the forest. Where does it live generally then? It lives in a case. But there's like four of them.

So the guy wears it for the advert? Yeah, puts the head on and runs around like that. But he's running through some undergrowth and it got rather dirty. 400 quid to clean it. And then I was told not to go near it. First thing I did was put the head on. Don't say that to Donny. Say to Donny, play with that as much as you want.

As much as you want, I got. Don't even want to. Not this bit of string I found. Don't want you to tellny say to Donny don't go near it play with that as much as you want as much as you want I got don't even want to yeah got this bit of string I found don't want you to tell me what to do good man what was it

oh you just reminded me of the old talking of a crown I listened to a podcast that Billy Connolly was on the other day

obviously a national treasure and I was reminded of the time that when he did his he did this famous quite controversial crucifixion comedy routine in like the 70s or whatever.

And he referred to the crown of thorns as Jesus' wee jaggy bonnet. And he's up there, this wee jaggy bonnet. Which really made me laugh. A lot of time for that. Possibly the reason why I haven't seen this Stormzy news

is because Storm's in a teacup it was a Stormzy in a teacup and the reason I haven't seen it is because I was

out last night and or actually posting dog through dog poo dog poo through an FAMR

letterbox your letterbox. Your letterbox. 100% racist. No, I'm not. I took a photo again outside your house the other day. Oh, did you? Somebody left a little card on my intercom. I've got a thread of people leaving stuff on my intercom.

And somebody left a card for Porsche party planners. And it's a picture of a Porsche on a card, a business card. And it says, available 24-7 on a card, a business card. And it says, available 24-7, providing anything. You name it. You name it. Yeah, get me a...

Well, a Porsche, more importantly. So presumably they're providing a Porsche. Get me an owl named Winston. Get me an owl. Yeah, that's what I want. An owl on the steering wheel as I wheel around the corners of Soho. You can go anywhere anyway.

You can go anywhere. What's the point of having a high-performance vehicle in Soho? You can't drive. If you're going to go for something that you're going to drive of Soho. You can go anywhere anyway. You can go anywhere. What's the point of having a high-performance vehicle in Soho? If you're going to go for something that you're going to drive around Soho in, just get it the biggest,

most comfortable car you can. Because you ain't going anywhere. You ain't going anywhere. Get one of those armchairs that you can drive. Yeah. Yeah. So we're recording this episode

in advance because it's Christmas. It's Christmas. So this episode's coming out just before New Year. Cool. And we make no apology for that, because we have ground ourselves into the dirt this year.

Have you heard my voice? Exactly. I did my goodbye radio show last night. I heard you got in big trouble. With a terrible voice like this going, I'm sorry. You make big plans for what your final show's going to be like, and then that happens.

Your voice just absolutely ruins itself. You got in big trouble, Pete Donaldson. Why did I get in big trouble? For apparently burping on there. what your final show's going to be like. And then that happens. Your voice just absolutely ruins itself. You got in big trouble, Pete Donaldson. Why did I get in big trouble? For apparently burping on air, which is absolutely outrageous. Outrageous stuff. That was my last word on Absolute Radio.

Was it a burp? It really made me, a really meaty burp. It's a fitting epitaph for your nine years. I had to pre-record it. I couldn't do it live. I had to drink a can of Coke and then go,

burp. You actually planned it? Yeah. I had to pre-record it. I couldn't do it live. I had to drink a can of coke and then go, brr. You actually planned it? Yeah. I went, listen, this is something I've almost done on air so many times and I've never been,

I've never done it on air. Did you get a lot of texts saying, cheers, kids crying? Did you get a lot of those? I got one tweet going, oh, cheers,

thanks for burping down the microphone for everyone to hear. That's how microphones work. What would be the point of it otherwise? My kids are all doing it in the car now. We're like, yes, come on. That's how McDonald's work. What would be the point of it otherwise? My kids are all doing it in the car now. We're like, yes,

come on. That is actually quite fitting. Oh, yeah. You've left a legacy of children burping in cars annoying their parents.

I can't think of anything better than that. How did you frame it? I just went, you know, this is, you know, when you're a DJ,

you fantasize about what your final song's going to be, what your final... If I was listening to that and it was you, I'd be thinking, oh, Jesus. Yeah, exactly. Well, I set it up and I was thinking, they're probably going to think I'm going to be what your final if I was listening to that it was you obviously thinking oh Jesus

yeah exactly well I set it up and I was thinking they're probably going to think I'm going to shout the F word aren't they and I just did a real meaty burp

and then played the Deftones which obviously it's outside their remit playing the Deftones back to school did it go out what do you mean so did the song go out

well I hope they didn't turn off the transmitters well we have the radio station I work at there's like a dump button right okay you don't have that mate when you're self-produced they can't stop you's like a dump button. Right, okay. You don't have that.

Mate, when you're self-produced they can't stop you. Oh yeah, true. You're self-produced. You don't have a producer yourself, no one can stop you. Okay, good. Did you get any messages

of complaint from the higher ups? It wasn't, no, not really. They strangely didn't mention that but they said thank you for all your hard work. I think they probably It's a carriage clock. They gave me a Les Paul.

Oh, did they? They gave me a Les Paul. I've never owned a Les Paul and I've really played with much of them to be honest. It was a Les Paul that we'd taken at Is Give me a Les Paul. I've never owned a Les Paul. I've never really played with much of them, to be honest. It was a Les Paul that we'd taken at Isle of Wight a few times and it had been signed by a load of artists.

The problem is I haven't got a fucking clue who the people are. Oh, that's a great gift, though. It is a great gift. They were really pleased to see the back of you, weren't they? But they, you know, like I love taking like plastic off stuff, the front of DVD players, protective screens on like camera screens and stuff like that. I love taking like plastic off stuff the front cover the front of DVD players protective screens on like camera screens

and stuff like that I love that it gives me joy where there is none and what they've done is on the on the

on the scratch plate they hadn't taken the plastic film off and somebody signed on the top of that so I'm going to find out who it is

and then think about maybe taking it off somehow ah so what you mean okay you have to find out who it is and then think about maybe taking it off somehow. Ah, that's what you mean. Okay. You have to work out. If it's not in the list. Yeah.

If it's like the basis from Scouting for Girls, I'll be fine with losing that one. If it's Noel Gallagher, whip it off. Whip it off. He signs everything. I don't think I've ever been in Absolute Radio HQ and not seen something signed by Noel Gallagher.

Ah, you know. I was going to say something, but now I completely forgot what it was you haven't got absolute radio I wasn't stop having a go I have nothing but

love for absolute radio before we had a studio here at Stakhanov Towers they were very accommodating and so I'm very thankful for them for also

teaching you how to broadcast as well which then in turn has helped me very rude it has they taught you your stripes

they have yeah proper microphone technique when you don't have a cold and terrible asthma and in turn has helped me. Very rude. It has. Well, they've taught you your stripes, haven't they? They have, yeah. Proper microphone technique when you don't have a cold and terrible asthma problems. You were gone. That's a big being that you've got. I imagine you've got some kind of document

and dossier about everyone who works with this microphone technique, haven't you? Yeah, Jim's is the worst. Yeah. Jim is a professional stand-up with microphones in his life that he uses every night. Yeah.

And he can't talk on a microphone properly. Yeah. Bless him. Yeah, have you ever told him? Yeah, I've told him. You have told him on air. Okay.

On air. Good. How do you rate mine out of 10? It's alright. It's alright. I'll take that off you, guy. If you can speak on a microphone and you've got headphones

for feedback, there's no excuse. No. Crazy. Yeah. Oh yeah, you were talking about Stormzy. I missed this news

when it broke about a week ago because like I said we're pre-recording this because I went to I tell you what Donny I am someone

who's naturally cynical about this kind of stuff and I find it a little bit awkward and I was really excited to go because I got it

bought as a Christmas present by my lovely wife but I wasn't quite sure what to expect. Yeah. And it was Secret Cinema's Stranger

Things. Oh right yeah yeah. I went to that last night. A lot of my Facebook pages were the same neon picture outside a cinema or something

like a bowling alley or something like a I was a Starcourt Mall. The Starcourt Mall. Yeah a lot of people in the Starcourt Mall. So we went, me and I went to that last night.

And yes, put your phones in those little locked pouches. Cool. So you can't take any photos around here. Useful. And I'm not, I don't want to give too much away

because clearly they've... Why are you crying? Because they thrive on that kind of mystery. It was honestly so good. I really wanted to find fault with it at the start. And it took me a record amount of time

to get well into it. Yeah, it doesn't. Everything is perfect. Have you been to a Secret Cinema event before? No, no, but everyone rips about it. I like experiential stuff.

I think it's fucking brilliant. It's amazing. So it's almost like immersive theatre. They're like a full Starcourt Mall where a lot of the season three takes place.

They had a big fun fair where there's a big scene in the series if you haven't seen it where that takes place. All the a big fun fair, but there's a big scene in the series, if you haven't seen it, where that takes place. All the actors, all the characters were there. You've got to spend time

actually interacting with the proper characters. Obviously, it's officially licensed, right? Yeah, yeah. So it's just amazingly good. Yeah. And it's a good, probably four-hour kind of evening. And the thing they do,

which is really cool, is that because they had sold out of regular tickets Mimi got VIP tickets what that means is for this particular event

you get given a kiss one of the cast members yeah you get to kiss yeah the children one of the children I got kissed

Peter isn't it about kids yes right what's that got to do with it I'm just saying it's not just about kids there's lots of characters

I had to go to gym for watching a cartoon last week yeah I mean he does need to grow up but the thing is you got the VIP passes were press passes

right okay so the whole thing was done you weren't just you weren't just like a VIP kind of it didn't set you apart from everyone else because you feel a bit awkward about it

yeah they gave you a press pass and it meant you were just one on the news network so you could go to different areas and you could blag your way through security

and do different things so there are parts of it where if you walk up to someone working there who's in character and say can I go through there behind that curtain and they say no no

staff only and you go okay and the second or third time you think hmm alright I want to come through because I'm pressed

and they've said I can go through there and they go, alright, and they let you through and there's a whole other thing happening. What? And you don't know it's there. It's amazing.

It's really good. Can you just run through? So, if you don't have one of those VIP passes, can you blag your way in? You can. They set you like little missions. Oh, get in.

So, there was one bit that Mimi and I did where we saw a poster on the wall that said, dial six, something, something, something, something,

something, look at the number, for information, to give information to the TV company. where we saw a poster on the wall that said, dial six something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something,

something, something, something, something, something, something, something, something,

for information, to give information to the TV company, to give them a story. It's like set in the 80s, right? And then, about 10 feet down the wall, there was a payphone,

like an authentic 80s payphone. So we just picked it up and dialed that number on the poster. Right. And it came through and said, and there was a person over on the line saying, hello, Hawkins News Network. And I said,

I said something and he went, okay, have you got any more information about that? And it was like a proper interactive phone call. And the mayor... You will not believe what Stormzy said. Yeah. The mayor of the village, of the town, Hawkins Mayor in the TV series, he's played

by Kerry Elwes he's like this smarmy kind of corrupt guy and he's walking around and he's dressed and he's meeting everyone like a

smarmy mayor and I had a couple of cocktails so I called him a corrupt son of a bitch and he reacted to it in character he was like

hey hey what are you talking about it was really good so I'd recommend it I think it's until February obviously in London so I like the idea I think it's until February obviously in London I like the idea of you drunk

rolling around an experiential theatre experience yeah it was good it was really really good so I'd recommend that enjoyable I was like

four and a half hours without my phone so probably why I missed this massive story it's not really a massive story it's just people

being dickheads yeah well done for that and I really want to see remember Bum Bum Train that was a big thing what the hell is that experiential theatre experience

that is a very limited or certainly was very limited ticket wise and it was always in a different place and it was always like different every time on the road a bit

it's like this sort of thing that you've gone through this experience you've gone through but it was it's fascinating. I think it's a bit more, it's all in one little building, I think, and you just kind of break off into different areas yourself.

Yeah, I really wanted to go, but I could never get a ticket. It was so... Do you know what it felt a bit like? It felt a bit like when you play those open world video games like Grand Theft Auto or whatever. It felt a bit like that. Yeah, cool. But in real life. Lovely old job. And I didn't kill anyone. You didn't kill anyone. you know when you play those open world video games like Grand Theft Auto or whatever it felt a bit like that yeah cool bit in real life

lovely old job and I didn't kill anyone you didn't kill anyone and if I did it was in character and so it is not actionable so deal with it

well we'll be back very soon with this corrupt son of a bitch Luke look at this I'm a big terrorist with my cat

I've had that one for a while she was I've got an email here so hello at lukeandpeachshow.com is the email address

we're still about what we should probably do is bang through the final of the Christmas emails because otherwise we're going to be out of time to do them because, I mean, next show we're here is going to be 2020

and it's going to be Christmas. People are going to forget about Christmas, aren't they? So I'll do this one first. It's from Sean in Whitley Bay who says, Hi guys, it's me again. I was astonished you didn't read out my last email. Oh, no, sorry. I was astonished you read out my last email,

remaster lids, brackets, badges, ferrets, etc., including otters. I didn't finish it. I was interrupted at work and must have pressed send while trying to look like I wasn't clearly on the skive. I can only think it must have been slow on the email front that week. I do remember us talking about otters, but I mean, your email was probably entered into the show on merit. Maybe it got into a log jam. Either that or Pete did it. Well, I'm skiving again says Sean

so to let you know of my outrage at Pete's lack of regard for secret Santa etiquette you know when you just go over the limit

go over the limit do you remember what do you mean remember I said it's an ideal situation it's secret Santa with you because if you

get if you draw me I'm loving it because you always spend too much money well Sean's unhappy about it. He says, well, on one hand, it's very generous and thoughtful. On the other hand, it's a cunt's trick

and serves only to make the people involved who stayed within their limits look bad. I think you're prescribing too much importance to Secret Santa. Well, Sean also says, P.S., sausage meat is very much a part of my Christmas dinner. Good to know. And P.P.S., I once is very much a part of my Christmas dinner. Good to know. And P.P.S. I once saw the gladiator Rhino in Birmingham.

He was the squarest man I've ever seen. Not particularly tall, about 5'7", but probably around the same width. I also heard on a different podcast that Wolf once played 70 minutes for Gillingham Reserves. What? I don't know if that's true. No, I'm fascinated, though. My friend Mark, who does another podcast, he's done a full long-form interview with Rhino this week,

who I think we found out this a few weeks ago, is a Hollywood actor now, isn't he? So I think he's done quite a lot of interesting stuff. But good to get the Santa ones out the way, because, like I say, we won't have a chance to do any Christmas themed emails for a wee while now. Apparently he played for 73 minutes in a match against Cambridge United's reserves before going off injured.

The match attracted a crowd 10 times the average for the club's reserve team, Gives. What year was this? Wolf was always quite old. Ooh, 1994. Okay, right. His skullet kind of made him look a lot older

than he actually was. What a great skullet, Bob. What a skullet. Yeah. Korea highlight skullet kind of made him look a lot older than he actually was. What a great skullet, Bob. What a skullet. Yeah. Korea highlight skullet. The four major food groups of that are the mullet, the skullet. Right. Those are only three.

Ice hockey hair is like a thick all over kind of variant of it. Yeah. The drullet. What's the drullet? Like a dreadlock skullet. It does exist. They're very, very, very... You don't see a lot of them out there.

You don't see a lot of them out there. Ice hockey hats, so it looks like a helmet, basically, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's the Superfair Animals song, which is brilliant. And the Vandals song.

Okay, didn't know that. Don't know them. Actually, we got a message on Twitter just now. Mike on Twitter has just tweeted, 11 minutes ago, so this is hot off the Mike press. I took my mini-display

and three heavy plastic cases full of discs with me travelling around Australia. It was horrific. I met a beautiful Swedish girl

in a hostel in Sydney who showed me this new white lumpy gadget called an iPod which stored all of her favourite music. Mind blown.

Emoji. Yeah, so how many mini-discs did they cart around? A mini-display and three heavy plastic cases full of discs. Yeah. See, this is interesting. And batteries on top of that.

Come on. I know. And sometimes you'd get an extra battery little component on the outside as well. Yeah. That would give you a bit more capacity. That's right. I went to Australia and New Zealand in 2003. Took a mini disc player.

Yeah. But I didn't take massive packages of mini discs. I basically took two or three maybe mini discs of packed compilations of my favourite songs. Yeah. And that just seems mad now. I was away for nine months. Three mini discs, each with about 10 songs each on it.

I spent a little bit of time yesterday researching and I mean researching is a bit strong, just messing around on the internet, About 10 songs each on it. I spent a little bit of time yesterday researching, and I mean researching is a bit strong, just messing around on the internet looking at... Remember the iPod used to have a click wheel? Yeah. Like a little click wheel thing. Do you remember there used to be games on the iPod? Yeah.

And it was all based around the click wheel and stuff. I had a first generation iPod Mini. Well, there used to be versions of the mobile Lost video game on it, and it all used to be you had to interact with it using the click wheel, which again seems mad.

That is crazy. But people still really rate the original iPods or maybe the first iPod. Yeah, I've seen people who've got apps where it turns your iPhone into an iPod.

Yeah, yeah. Or they take old classic iPods, which just have really great durability and it's a bit of a design classic, and they put a little SD card reader inside instead of the hard drives, which are obviously mechanical and therefore prone to damage.

I replaced my own hard drive once in my iPod, thank you. Did you really? You're such a pervert. What do you mean? You're not supposed to take them apart, are you? Yeah. Well, if you want to. I mean, they're a lot more replaceable than...

Do you not think at any point, if I get this wrong, it's completely fucked? Well, it's on my... How do you put it back together again? Well, everything's either glueable or snappable nowadays. It's like you get a heat gun, you sort of melt the sides. You didn't have to do it back then,

but with most phones, they are serviceable, but they're just a shit to get open. It's all glued get a heat gun and you sort of melt the sides. You didn't have to do it back then, but like with most phones, they are serviceable, but they're just a shit to get open. It's all like glued together. So back in the day, there'd be screws and stuff and pops and little sliders and stuff. But technology has become so disposable now. So if you take your iPod or your iPhone, whatever it is, into one of those stores in London,

they'll fix them. They'll just pop them open, will they? They'll just pop them open. Well, they'll pop them open. If you take your phone, they'll heat gun it and get all the glue off and open it up

and then reseal it, hopefully. So some people have done that with classic iPods. Yeah, open it up and replace the hard drive with SD card readers. So there's like, seeking out for like 180 gigabytes,

but it's all solid state memory and it's pretty swish, pretty swish. Walking around with your iPod. Have you got one of those? No. No. Yeah, I've yet to get indulged

in that particular hipster tech affectation. When I think of you at home, this doesn't happen very often, but say you message me when I'm sat at home. And you think, what's this tech disruptor

got for me now? Well, the three things I think that you're doing, if someone said to me, what do you think Pete's doing right now? It was like a normal evening. Just take the other one. Take one of those as read.

I mean, the pre or post. Inflagrante. Inflagrante. I would say you're either doing one of three things, right? Right. You're either watching some obscure TV show on YouTube. It'll be about, it'll be like some weird YouTube channel

about lock picking or something. Right, yeah. Or what's the other one you like? Magnet fishing. Yeah, the guy I've not watched in for a little while. The second thing is you are hunched over some kind of bit of tech. I don't like the word hunched.

With a soldering iron and one of those little lights and magnifying glasses. Okay, cool. Or three, masturbating. Yeah. As I said, just take that one as read.

Take that one as read. How did your dad like his gaming chair? I've not seen him yet to be honest. Oh, okay. I mean, I'm looking at my

YouTube history, a bit worrying. Well, YouTube's safe, isn't it? YouTube's, yeah. That's what I mean. There's no filth on YouTube. There's Panic! at the Disco.

I write Sins Not Tragedies, the official video. Why are you watching that? That's a blast from the past. When did that come out? I just wanted to see how unfashionable the lead singer of Panic! at the Disco was back then. I bet it's dated now. The Silent Hill Unseen Content.

This is a guy who basically he takes video games and you know you're in a you're in a you're in a you're in a video game world but like

obviously the video game creators only create as much content as they need to so like they'll present the front of a house

but they won't bother rendering the back of the house they won't bother making the back of the house because you're never going to see it this guy takes a little wander

has a little wander around see what's going on behind the truck. He uses a PC, he hacks into it on the PC, and has a little wander around to see what's going on. Is that legal? Yeah, it's probably a grey area. I don't think I understand that.

Can you just repeat it again? So just repeat what you just said. I wasn't listening properly. So say in a cut scene in a video game, you are, say this is the start of Grand Theft Auto 4. It's a bank robbery scene, right? Right. And you escape from the bank and you're in a car

and you're driving along. But it's just a cut scene in that, like, it's not really part of the real game world. So you can't play it? So you can't really, so you have very strict parameters where you're allowed to go. And the computer kind of like corrals you into making those choices.

I understand that. But then this guy goes back and it's called boundary breaking in this particular YouTube term where it takes the camera and just has a look around and how the world was created and how the game world was created. And like, say like in a video game, like a guy breaks through a wall and starts trying to attack you. What happens before he's through that wall and starts trying to attack you what happens before he's through that wall

what does he look like is he in like a reference T-pose which is like where the video game character's just with their arms out like that

or a Y I think it's called and what are they doing behind the wall I just thought they didn't exist well no because in memory you can only have

you've only got a finite amount of memory so the characters have to be somewhere. So they're just hidden behind a wall, and they're always there. That's really creepy to think of. It's really creepy, yeah. And that's why it's interesting.

Yeah. I was actually talking about, you know, The Last of Us, the video game The Last of Us. Have you played that? I haven't. I'd like to, though. Do you think I'd like it? I think you would, yeah.

You're not plugged in, by the way. It doesn't matter, no. I'm just showing you. There's a video where they're showing... Can I get that on the Nintendo. You're not plugged in by the way. It doesn't matter, no. I'm just showing you there's a video where they're showing... Can I get it on the Nintendo Switch? No, no, you can't. Every single video game on the Nintendo Switch. The way that video games

are made is that like, what they do with characters, obviously there's motion capture I've seen that before, yeah. But the creators of those games have to basically, they make the meshes, they make the models, and then they have to put a skeleton inside, like a virtual skeleton,

that reacts like an actual skeleton. So the joints can pull and push. So it looks realistic. Yeah, so it moves in a realistic way. The arm just doesn't start floating around. And there's this great moment where, at the start of Last of Us, something incredibly emotional happens.

Right. Don't spoiler it. I'm trying not to, but it's harrowing. And the actors, the only actors are... Oh, you've shown this before, they get really upset. Really upset, and they're in tears. But because the animators have to animate it at the end of every scene,

they have to get up and put their arms out wide so that they can bone excuse my terrible phrase bone the meshes so to speak and so this young girl who's part of this very very emotional scene

crying her eyes out has to get up and do that has to get up and do the tea scene that's so funny isn't it how weird what a world we've created for ourselves what a world amazing

and that's how video games are made it's as simple as that. Thank you very much for that, Pete Donaldson. Sorry for boring you on that. No, it was great. More on that as we get it. Yeah. Adam's been in touch.

Hello, Adam. Is it Adam Richardson? He doesn't give his second name. Cool. Who's that? Is that Man Vs. Food? I think it might be, yeah. Yeah.

It's about ready salted crisps. Okay, then. Bit of a change of trains. Yeah. Do you know when they make ready salted crispsps they have to put the potatoes in a t position now he says having listened to the email discussing the use of warm ready salted crisps as a side dish for a roast dinner i thought i'd get in touch um yes you heard that right those of you haven't had the the earlier episode it is a scandal the listener he emailed him mentioned

it might be a Midlands thing. And as a Southerner, I'm afraid I can't fully confirm, but I am married to a Midlander and can tell you she also has been known to involve ready salted crisps as an accompaniment to a hot meal.

We got together over 15 years ago now when we were at university and after being together for a year or so, she offered to cook me macaroni cheese and I of course said yes. Yes, please. I'll put the fact that she used

penne pasta instead of macaroni to one side. No, thank you. As that was the least shocking thing about the meal. The least shocking thing, Pete. The least shocking thing. As she placed the plates down on the table for us to eat, not only did she offer salt and pepper, she also offered a scrunched up bag of ready salted, which she proceeded to

delve into before sprinkling broken crisps over her meal. I, of course, was shocked and wondered if this was the end for us, but eventually my manners took over and I accepted the offer and partook in a bit of crisp sprinkling. Keep it clean, Adam. I'll be honest, for ages... I thought you were eating there.

For ages I thought it was bonkers, but 15 years later I have to admit I'm a convert. Not only did the crisps add extra seasoning, they also add a texture that could enhance many a meal. Give it a go next time you whip up a quick pasta dish. You won't regret it. Cheers, Adam. Now... I'm in. I'm in, Adam.

I don't mind that. Don't mind it. But it's not a roast dinner, is it? It's not a roast dinner. A roast dinner is horrendous. Imagine if you made a roast dinner and then sprinkled crisps over the top. I think my mum would punch me in the face if I pulled out a packet of ready-salted crisps. Mummy, get me some Wotsits. It's the cheesy sprinkler that really makes it pop.

Yeah. I mean, it's a slightly different situation, I'd say. What an awful thing to do. But yeah, I agree, Adam. That's delicious. Would that video game actress be crying? Crying into her crisps. That actually gets into the mode.

Watches someone sprinkle ready-salted crisps on a roast dinner. Would you like me to play us out with the lyrics from the song I've Got an Ape Drape by The Vandals? What is an ape drape? It's a mullet. Oh, an ape, okay. Like an ape drape.

Why not? We haven't got the rights, but who gives a shit? Well, I was going to see the rights off by just reading out the lyrics. Oh, okay, yeah, fine. Make it like that famous country singer or that guy I saw last night on Jerry Springer. Clean me up, but let me keep my edge. In the day I like to keep it dignified,

but at night you know I got another side and I don't give a damn because I am what I am, even if it's really, really bad. I've got an ape drape, yes I do. They're giving them to anyone and that means you. You can drive to Riverside and get one too. Then you'll have an ape drape like I do. do. They're giving them to anyone and that means you. You can drive to Riverside and get one too. Then you'll have an ape drape like I do.

Go ahead and buzz around the ears. I've been growing that one bread back there for years. I've had it since the first time I saw Queens, right?

The front may conform to society but the back says I have personality even if it's really bad. Even if it's really, really bad. Yeah, nice.

Yeah. A band called The Vandals who have a number of different albums some of which are called band called the Vandals who have a number of different albums some of which are called Hitler Bad Vandals Good yep

look what I almost stepped in 2002's Internet Dating Super Studs yeah and the presumably very well received 2004 effort

Hollywood Potato Chip they are and if that isn't linked to macaroni cheese and really sort of crisp I don't know what is yep so yes thank you so much for and they end the song chip. And if that isn't linked to macaroni cheese and really sort of crisp, I don't know what is.

So yes, thank you so much. And they end the song with different terms for the ape drip, different terms for the mullet in different parts of the US. Go on. The Norco neck warmer. I've never heard the ape drip before. Hockey hair, Canada. Akey breaky hair in Nashville.

The mullet in Hoboken forbidden hair in Europe forbidden hair in Europe I've got forbidden hair that's like another thing that Americans get wrong

about Europe and the shong in Florida short and long oh I've never heard of that there's quite a funny kind of thing in the US

among sort of younger guys who they think it's absolutely baffling how European men dress and then obviously i think take trousers and i personally think how they dress is is terrible yeah really oversized jeans and like running trainers big like running trains and oversized shirts and baseball caps for everything um but they think it's funny the way we dress here so

yeah they um i remember going to a dinner i I've said this before but I went to a dinner with some of my wife's friends and they said oh yeah when we when we go to New York City we play the old gay or European game good

you see someone and you have to guess whether they're gay or European and look sometimes you get it right sometimes you get it wrong let's get out of here next time

your homework for this week is to listen to Hitler Good sorry Hitler Bad Van was good what's up the pit size Hitler Good is my pamph to Hitler Good sorry Hitler Bad Van was Good What's up the big size? Hitler Good is my pamphlet I've written

Hitler Bad Van was Good from 1998 it is an excellent album from start to finish it is wonderful I'll finish with this on that Stranger Things secret cinema

at one point I won't give too much away but you have to put your hand out to show that you're supporting the good guys kind of thing and a lot of people get it wrong.

A lot of people get it wrong. And I was thinking at one point, I'm pleased there are no camera phones in here because this could be repurposed. Called a long lens, black and white security footage. Everyone's just got their arm up. What's going on here?

Listen, in the world of post-truth, this could be repurposed. Disgusting. In a chilling way. All right, next time we come back and speak to you guys, it's going to be 2020, which is officially the future. And I've got a few questions for Pete.

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