The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 20: Groovy Baby, Oh Yeah!
Episode Date: October 16, 2017Luke and Pete are back and Pete is dressed as Edward Scissorhands, an outfit that garnered him great feedback from none other than Tim Burton himself, Luke has been to the Crystal Maze and there's ple...nty of tim to get stuck into Richard Gere, obviously.If that's not enough to sink your teeth into, we have an email about a family Christmas dinner that will make you question the very concept of the nuclear family and Pete fills us in on Japanese mummies. To send us pictures of your own self-mummification, or anything else: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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all right welcome back to the luke and pete show it's episode 20 god we're old god we're old
20 now 20 years young we're soon we're gonna be riding cars with boys i tell you
are there more episodes of this or Fast and the Furious?
What are they on?
Nine now?
There must be on a few, yeah.
What's the last one?
I lost count
of Tokyo Drift.
I think I've only seen
the first one.
You must have done
some press junkets
for them all though.
No.
Really?
I never had to do that.
Never had to bother
Vin Diesel for any reason.
Right.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Who was it?
I saw Blade Runner.
Oh, the new one.
Hot dog.
I enjoy Blade Runner.
And there'll probably be an online backlash saying it's not as good as you think it is.
Rah, rah, rah.
But, you know, it was good.
It was bloody good.
I didn't even notice how long it was.
Which I think was cracking on for three hours in the end.
But it was beautifully shot.
Denis Villeneuve. So it's been
exceptionally well reviewed. Oh,
it's so good. And I think because my
wife hasn't seen the original,
we're going to watch the original this weekend,
and then we're going to go to the cinema next week and watch it.
I think it will compare favourably to
the original. I imagine it will, yeah.
I think sometimes with,
I can't remember what version I watched back in the day because remember like they had as a director well yeah and he had
like he had his voice replaced didn't he or something there was like one of them's got i
think i'm gonna say famously now but i can't quite remember i think famously it's one version has got
narration and one hasn't right and i don't know which one's which so maybe that's it yeah because
i got for some reason in my head i thought that they'd replaced harrison thod Right. And I don't know which one's which. Oh, so maybe that's it, yeah. For some reason in my
head I thought that they'd replaced Harrison
Ford's Pipes, but I don't know, that would
be ridiculous, wouldn't it? It would be a bit. My
trepidation of watching the new one
comes from the fact that I'm not really a fan of
Ryan Gosling. I don't like him that much.
I think he's very watchable, I
think he doesn't do much
and... He never does, does he? No, but
I think, in the same way that you were talking
with Ben a couple of weeks ago
about actors that don't have to do much,
they just have to hold everything together.
I think he's in the Steve McQueen mould,
that kind of way,
where you just have to be beautiful
and not really do much.
Steve McQueen's got some chops, though.
Bad education.
Gosling.
Half Nelson, isn't it called?
Oh, yeah. Bad education was that terrible BBC Two Nelson, isn't it called? Oh, yeah.
Bad Education was that terrible BBC Two...
With Jack Whitehall.
With Jack Whitehall.
Yeah.
Bad Education.
Yeah, that one.
He's good in that.
I mean, my evidence was...
Lars and the Real Girl.
I haven't seen any of those.
Right.
Well, those two are decent.
But I'll tell you two of them I have seen.
Place Beyond the Pines.
That's a piece of shit film, but it's a beautiful shot.
I didn't think it was a piece of shit film or anything. I just thought he didn't
really do anything. Well, he just did Drive again, didn't he?
He just did the kind of quiet, moody man.
Drive, to me, was just like an
elongated music video. Yeah, it was
good, wasn't it? It was quite cool to watch.
I was walking around Japan listening to the
whole soundtrack.
The soundtrack's amazing. There's a beautiful Tumblr
blog dedicated to men who've gone
to fancy dress parties as his character in Drive
and they all look absolutely shit.
Yeah, it's so funny.
Never pick someone
legendarily handsome.
Never pick someone legendarily
cool. Just always go fucking stupid.
And you would know about both those things, don't you?
Massively. You are legendarily cool and legendarily
handsome. I have done I was was going to say beer watch,
David Boy as the Goblin King, Jareth.
Yes, you have.
I've gone as Edward Cezanne about five times.
Just let more than that, because you paid 100 quid for the outfit,
so you go all the time as Edward Cezanne.
The annoying thing is I only use half of it,
because the kind of fake leather, the faux leather,
is the full suit, his full kind of like black leather suit.
Is it perished?
No, the lining's perished.
No, but I wear trousers when he tries to pretend to be a human boy.
Yeah.
And so I try to...
It's very hot.
Have you ever gone to a fancy dress party
as his porn star alter ego Edward Painter's hands?
No, but when I was interviewing the director of
Edwards and Hans, Tim Burton,
I did show him a picture of me dressed as Edwards and Hans.
What did he say?
He actually went,
Oh, that's you?
And he was really surprised.
He was really pleased with my performance.
He's trying to sell a film, isn't he?
He's trying to sell a movie.
Don't be rude.
To be fair to you, Pete.
He said that I could be in the aforementioned Edward Penishand's films.
Well, I agree with that.
And I had films.
Apparently there was two.
Well, listen, I am someone...
What story was not told at the end of that?
Well, who knows?
The mind boggles.
I would be someone who's not shy in having a pop at you for ridiculous clothes that you occasionally wear.
It's affectionate.
It's not a mean thing.
No.
Locker room.
Exactly. I would have to be totally fair and say that your fancy dress outfits i mean you wear
them every day but no no your fancy dress outfits are very very good the kids would say they are on
point i hate um people who've got fancy dress parties half-arsed well my thing is they're above
it so fuck you yeah i think get involved or don't I agree But I also hate it
When people use it
As an excuse to try and be sexy
Oh it's Halloween
I want to go as a sexy nurse
It's nothing to do with Halloween
That's not
Yeah but that's not
That's not their fault
That's the
That's Smith
It's usually Smithies
They're the big
They're the big costumiers
What else do they do
That company
Smithies
They have fake noses
And fucking
You know
Nurses
Busty nurses I'd love to hear from a listener Who's worked at Smithies Well men's and fucking you know nurses busty nurses
I'd love to hear
from a listener
who's worked at
Smithies
that'd be great
it's a factory
it's not an outlet
Angel's the outlet
but someone has to
work there
it sounds like
a company
that'd be in
Bash Street Kids
or something
but they never
I think they just
go to Google
and go right
what are people
talking about
what have people
been talking about
the last year
I bet there's a
Smithies drive costume
I bet there is I bet there is
oh I bet there is
but Pete the thing is
someone's got to
actually work there
yeah
someone has to work there
yeah but I'd like to
meet the person in
Smithies who goes
right I think a
Ryan Gosling drive
costume is just what
it's going to fly off
the shelves this year
and let's get rid of
the sexy Kool-Aid
girl
Pete I'll tell you
what they did an
absolute killing on
Austin Powers mate
eh?
Austin Powers they were all Eh? Austin Powers.
They were all over the place,
weren't they, for years?
Eh, babe.
My mate had to do some stand-up once
dressed as Austin Powers.
Why?
Because for the launch
of The Spy Who Shagged Me,
he had to...
He was a stand-up
and he had to go
and do his normal stand-up set.
That's the worst job ever.
I would do it.
Do his normal stand-up set
in some dirty nightclub
in Leicester Square
to a lot of indifferent
I think there were people
going to watch the premiere
and he had to do some stand up
dressed as
dressed as Austin Powers
not doing any material
right
not doing any shagadelic material
but we're both in the situation
where we do work
or we get
we get like radio work
basically doing different stuff
you do a lot more corporate stuff
and commercial stuff
than I do
but is there anything
that you would say no I'm not
doing it
it's the major food
groups the sun isn't
it it's the major kind
of like
no I don't mean
specific brands I just
mean the job I think
this is too embarrassing
I'm not doing it
I don't really care
about your ethics I
mean the actual job
itself
not much no
so if they said that
you've got to do that
you've got to present
the whole thing so
there's going to be
here's a scenario for
you then right next year there's going to be a new Austin Powers movie and the person You've got to do that You've got to present the whole thing So there's going to be Here's a scenario for you then right Next year there's going to be
A new Austin Powers movie
Yeah
And the person they've decided
To be involved in the premiere
Is Pete Donaldson
Yeah
And you have got to dress
Like Austin Powers
And you have to do
Your whole presentation thing
But after every sentence
You've got to say
Groovy baby
Oh yeah
Will you do it
Yeah I mean that'll be big bucks
That'll be more bucks Than I'm usually used to But I'm asking you If you'd do it or not, I mean, that'll be big bucks. That'll be more bucks than I'm usually used to.
But I'm asking you whether you'd do it or not.
Yeah, I probably would.
I would pay 500 quid to see it.
I would go and watch it.
I would go and watch it.
It'd be so funny.
Well, you know.
I've not heard from anyone called Paul Jackson yet,
as requested last week.
Where's your PJs, Luke?
I don't know.
Where are your PJs?
I'm hoping they're going to manifest themselves at some point.
Crying out loud.
For those who didn't hear last week's show,
Paul Jackson is the bass player of Tapal.
I thought it was such a...
What would the word be for it?
Such a boring, ordinary name
that I thought there must be someone out there
called that.
But anyway, so far, no.
Terence Trent Darby changed his name.
To what?
To something else.
And he said it saved his life
because he said he killed Terence Trent Darby
and he was so happy.
Shall I look it up?
It's not important.
Sananda Maltreya?
Yeah, because when I first heard it
I thought,
oh, has he transitioned or something?
But no, he's just changed his name.
But his original name
is Terence Trent something or other,
which is weird.
Oh, right.
Sign your name across my heart.
That's a good tune, that.
Sign your name...
Oh, we're not going to sing.
It's been...
Oh, too quiet.
It's been... Have you got sign your name on there? That was... It's been somewhere probably, that. Sign... Oh, we're not going to sing. Oh, too quiet. It's been...
Have you got Sign Your Name on there?
That was It's Been somewhere, probably.
It's Been.
Would you want me to go first?
Well, that was my It's Been.
I've seen Blade Runner.
Oh, you did it before the jingle again.
What's the point of having these jingles?
I'm putting the cart before the horse.
You are.
It's fine.
And the horse is bolted.
Okay, so you saw Blade Runner.
You don't want to do any spoilers,
but can you say anything else about it? Oh, God, it's impossible to... Oh, the actor who... It's impossible to talk saw Blade Runner You don't want to do any spoilers But can you say anything else about it?
Oh god, it's impossible to
Oh, the actor who
It's impossible to talk about Blade Runner's plot
Without giving away spoiler after dripping spoiler
It's so spoilery
But there are some wonderful performances
The guy who played Noy Albanoi
Or Noy the Albanoi
One of my favourite Icelandic films
One of my favourite films in fact
A very bleak tale about an albino boy
who wants to escape his dreary life in Iceland
somewhere in the arsene of Norway
and he
I once went to Iceland
and I just happened to be in a pub
and I went that is
Noy the Albino
and I raced after him
he came in he was wearing what could only be described as a
smock and he came in, he was wearing like, what could only be described as a smock
and he came in to the bar,
left immediately.
He saw the prices.
He saw the prices.
He's ridiculous, he said.
And I chased after him and I said,
are you Noy the Albanoi?
And he went, yes.
I went, oh, can I get a picture?
I never do that, but it's Noy Albanoi,
which is, you know, not many people know who he is.
But he's in Blade Runner.
He plays a librarian.
Is he a nice chap?
Lovely chap.
Lovely sweet chap.
And it was around about one o'clock in the morning
when it was just starting to get light again,
which is interesting, in Iceland.
So there we go.
What did you like about the film, though, just particularly?
I thought it, quality-wise, it's up there.
It was decent yeah
um but i i'm a sucker for anything um futuristic and uh and with a lot of japanese kanji slash um
korean hangul kicking around cool it's beautiful just such a beautiful such a beautiful picture
yeah i'm looking forward to uh to seeing it i really am who directed it again uh villeneuve
and what else has he done? I don't know.
I'm not a film buff,
I must admit.
It takes something
for me to actually sit down
and I'm a bit Michael Owen
in many ways.
Oh, really?
It takes me something
to actually sit down
and watch a film.
I sort of go...
Apparently you did Sicario,
but I haven't seen that.
Oh, that's good.
That's decent.
Did you do that?
Maybe I'm a Villeneuve fan.
Secretly, I just didn't know.
Oh, you did Arrival, which is absolutely brilliant.
Oh, I've never seen that yet.
That's fantastic.
That's three bangers in a row.
There we go.
He's up there now, isn't he?
He's right up there.
Arrival is honestly one of the most intelligent sci-fi movies I've seen for a long time.
I enjoyed the fact that him and Ridley Scott just had almost a stand-up row
at one of the press launches about Decker being a replicant or not.
Oh, God. I think
the years haven't been...
The years, I think, haven't been kind to Ridley Scott,
but obviously this guy's stepping in and directing
it, and he's sort of...
I think Ridley Scott's slightly rewriting
history, sort of going, well, it doesn't make any sense if
Decker isn't a replicant. And
Villeneuve's going, no, he could be not a replicant.
And he's going, I made the film!
I made the film!
Ridley Scott's old now.
He'll be 80 next month.
Is he?
80 next month.
Holy moly.
And he's still grafting.
No, he made the cut of the Alien movies,
didn't he, recently?
He went to college at the end of my street.
He's from your neck of the woods, isn't he?
I don't know.
No, he's from Wales.
No.
I think he's from Wales.
Is he really?
I think he might be from Wales, you know.
I thought he was from your neck of the woods. No, but weirdly, like my Wales. Is he really? I think he might be from Wales, you know. I thought he was
from your neck of the woods.
No, but weirdly,
like my mother,
he ended up in
Hartlepool briefly.
Born in South Shields,
so jokes on you.
Oh, fuck.
I've been,
listen,
you're going to sound tacky,
but trust me when I tell you,
it is brilliant.
I went and did
the Crystal Maze experience.
Mate, I've done it before.
I enjoyed it immensely
it's a great
it is honestly
so good
I cannot
stress
how good it is
I had so many
misgivings about
how it's not going to be
as good as the original
it was honestly
from start to finish
like exactly like
doing the entire
Crystal Maze
it's brilliant
the guy we had to
take us around
was fantastic
yeah those guys
are really rather well put together.
So I have this thing, I'm not really a huge fan,
you might be the same,
of these sort of out-of-work comedians and actors
who do these sort of extroverted type things,
like performance art type stuff.
I'm the sort of guy who cringes when I walk down the road
and someone comes up to me.
Well, it's just like London Dungeon kind of thing.
But that's what you get though, isn't it?
Yeah, but that's what you get to go round with, isn't it?
Yeah, but you can't call them out
because they're literally working, acting.
And the guy performing the Richard O'Brien role for us
was this guy called Flint Angel.
And he was so good.
Yeah.
He's so good from start to finish.
He was in character the whole time.
Yeah.
And I got to do a physical game,
got the crystal,
and a mental game,
didn't get the crystal
but I got one out of two
and we were chucked
into a team
it was four of us
and four people
we didn't know
it was a team of eight
but you can book it
as a team of eight
where you know everyone
that's what we did
I knew everybody
apart from two people
and those two people
got on my tits
like you wouldn't believe
yeah it can happen
competitive people
our people
you know what I'm like
our people
were right,
actually.
They were cool.
But when you did it,
did you do two games?
I did two games.
Did you get the crystals?
I got the crystals in one
and I got an automatic look in.
Did you really?
Because I was honest.
I put my foot on the green,
which is the hot lava.
And obviously,
there's no indication
whether you've done it or not.
And nobody actually noticed,
but I went,
ah, balls.
Oh, really?
Was that a physical game in Aztec Zone?
That was a physical, yeah.
Well, you had to run around and get the eggs?
Yes.
That's the one I did.
I got the crystal.
Well, I could have done it.
That's the annoying thing.
But I was honest.
And I got locked in.
Oh, am I locked in?
So I had to solve a puzzle, which was really easy.
But I really laboured over it.
OK.
So for those who are listening who don't know what we're talking about,
there was a quiz show in the 90s, easy but I'm really laboured over it. Okay. So for those who are listening and don't know what we're talking about there
was a quiz show in
the 90s a physical
sort of type role
play quiz show where
you have to go and
do as a team of
however I think
there's five in the
show and the guide
takes you around
different zones and
you do different
types of games to
get a crystal and
if you do the game
and complete it
without getting a
penalty you get a
crystal and each
crystal means five
seconds in the
crystal dome at the end and you collect as many gold tokens as you can at the end and you
exchange those gold tokens for prizes and it was like an iconic like cultish 90s game show wasn't
it and they've done a completely new experience the one i went to was in north london but i think
they're dotted around and i just cannot recommend it enough it was such fun it was really good and
it's what i liked about it is they had all of these little scenes.
And if you looked into the ceiling,
it was just like they'd clearly just repurposed an office.
That's right. Because you had the polystyrene squares at the top.
Did you watch the little video of Richard O'Brien at the beginning?
No, has he been added in?
I've not seen that.
It's just like a compilation clip, Sting.
Oh, right.
Because he...
I don't think I appreciate how good he was.
He owns the rights,
doesn't he?
And he also wrote
Rocky Horror Picture Show.
He must be minted.
Does he live in Australia
now, I think?
I saw him in the
Groucho once
and two men were doing
some drugs in the toilet.
Is that...
Yeah, I think that's
all right to say.
He shouldn't be doing it,
but, you know,
they didn't get caught,
so what are you going to do?
It might be bad
For the reputation of the groucho
Well the groucho
Will make it very clear
On pretty much every pane
Of glass in the toilet
That anybody
Can't do it
Will be
Taken out
And prosecuted
And shot
To the fullest extent of the law
Yeah
And
And Richard O'Brien
Was outside the cubicle
And he was like
Oh somebody's doing drugs in there
Leave some there for me.
Ooh.
And then he just left the toilet.
Was he really over the top?
Yeah, and I thought,
brilliant, that's all I needed from you.
That's all I needed from you, Richard.
I don't think I appreciated how good he was
when I saw it on TV.
Fantastic.
You know, you'd put those sort of characters
that we forget so easily,
like your Barry Miles.
His, I guess
you know
ended in a slightly
different way
but I think
sometimes you sort of
go oh they were
really bloody good
they were force of nature
proper entertainers
yeah
alright good
well that's what
I've been doing
so you've been
listening to my
I've been to
Crystal May's
experience
I think I told you
before that I've seen
it I saw it in the
movie recently
that's quite good
I don't know if I
told you or Ben
I can't remember now
but that's worth seeing as well.
Yeah, did you go, like, a midnight screening or something like that?
No.
No?
I sprint normally.
Oh, OK.
That's good.
But, yeah, shall we do some emails?
Let's do some emails.
Let's get into the next section of the show.
OK, Luke, don't gunge me, mate.
Pipe down, Pete.
I told you never to argue with the customers.
Pipe down, Pete.
I told you never to argue with the customers. Yeah, you, Pete. I told you never to argue with the customers.
Yeah, you've got to stop doing it.
I don't think you should ever be in a customer service role anyway.
Have I ever been a customer?
I used to be in a betting shop.
I used to work in a betting shop.
Zoo?
John Joyce.
Zoo's quite a customer service role, eh?
No, I worked in an education district.
What were you doing there?
I was tasked with creating a...
Teaching the monkeys.
CD-ROM.
CD-ROM.
Teaching the monkeys how to be better monkeys. Now, I was
making an educational CD-ROM that I never finished,
to my eternal discredit.
How long did you work there for? Yeah,
I did my... It took you years to do one CD-ROM
and you didn't finish it? Honestly, it was a joke.
But I sort of talked them down to just doing
three days a week, because I was in a band
and I thought it was cool. I thought, I'm not going to need
you guys anymore. Did you get paid?
Well, that's the thing. It was a 50 quid week
and that's not liveable, honourable.
So I was on hardship grants and all kinds of shit
to get through it.
So yeah, not great.
Not ideal. Never mind.
Makes sense.
Do you want to do an email first?
Yeah. There's a really long one here, but do you want to do one first
and then I'll do this one after? Okay. Give's a really long one here, but do you want to do one first and then I'll do this one after?
Okay.
Give me a rest.
All right, then.
Shall we go for... Well, I'm going to do Anonymous.
Anonymous's email.
Is that all right?
This is not the really long one about the...
Does it start off, Dear Luke and Pete slash Pete and Luke?
Yes, it is.
Do you want to do that?
Because you've got the chops.
That's the long one I was going to do.
Okay, all right.
We'll do that one.
We'll do that one.
It's a good one.
It's a long one, but it's a good one.
Okay, right.
So the sender of this email would like to remain anonymous,
but he says, Dear Luke and Pete slash Pete and Luke.
It is Luke and Pete.
Fine.
Apologies for what has ended up being a ridiculously long email.
I completely understand it.
It's too rambling for the use in your show.
Well, it isn't, Mr. Anonymous.
He says, I wanted to add to your compendium
of awkward family dinner stories.
I'm afraid mine doesn't hit the heights of greedy cuntgate,
which I love that he's calling it that,
although it is Christmas-based.
It is also about a clash of cultures,
the upper-middle-class pomposity of my father
and the tight-fisted absurdity of my aunt, my mum's sister.
To give you the measure of their characters, my dad was an officer in the army
and boasts that he hasn't gotten on the ruddy tube in ten years, although he works in London a lot.
My aunt, on the other hand, joyfully quibbles over ten-pence discounts at supermarket checkouts
and once interrupted an email chain about a relative's
funeral to advertise her discount greetings cards wow wow i love it so seven or eight years ago now
my family were going to spend christmas at my aunt's house and she and my dad had come to an
uneasy truce she would do the cooking and he would provide the drinks the tone was set on christmas
eve when a trifle consisting predominantly of
strawberry angel delight was paired with a 20 pound dessert wine which my uncle described
quite accurately as like a melted calippo much to my dad's sugar in however worse was to come
when the turkey on christmas day came around now my dad takes pride in being the first customer to
order his from the local butcher each year in July
but my aunt's turkey was not from a local
butcher or even from the local Tesco.
No, it was from her meat man
her words not mine, who
trundles around her neighbourhood selling dead animals
of dubious provenance from the back
of a van. Just stolen, murdered
animals. It really was
vile Pete apparently. Sitting in the
fridge it looked like somebody had half-heartedly
draped a large rice pudding skin over the
sagging buttocks of an elderly cadaver.
It didn't look any better after cooking,
and when instructed to carve it, my uncle
approached it with the glassy-eyed resignation
of someone forced to dissect a childhood
pet. Once on my plate,
it was actually a relief to find that it only had
the taste and texture of soggy cardboard, but it was still profoundly unpleasant to find that it only had the taste and texture of
soggy cardboard but it was still profoundly unpleasant to eat and proved to be too much for
my dad after enduring a couple of fork falls he rose from the table with the excuse that he had
to get more drinks from the cool box after 10 minutes we realized he still hadn't come back
so my aunt went to search for him she went across the hallway into the kitchen where she found him furiously frying two turkey breasts that he had smuggled along in the cool box on christmas
day smuggling in his own turkey at the time of course we at the dining table didn't know of his
deceit all we heard was my aunt screaming horror and my dad bellow the immortal words i'm not
eating any more of that damnable foul to which my aunt almost betted with her response of,
oh, fuck off back to the 19th century.
I don't know who I'm with there.
I know, it's a difficult one.
Yeah, damnable fowl.
I hate tight-fisted people.
Fuck off back to the 19th century.
I'm going with the posh dad.
He says the exchange was both the peak and the deer
of every family Christmas I've ever had.
It led to a blazing row between both sets of parents,
which cast a shadow over the rest of the day
but my cousins, my brother and I were crying
tears of laughter at how ridiculous
the situation was. Even more so
when my dad proclaimed a couple of minutes later
that my aunt's turkey gave a new meaning to the
term cock-o-van.
Both my dad's turkey breasts and my aunt's
shriveled meat lump of doom ended
up in the bin. To this day, she still
sometimes tells my dad
to piss off back to the 19th century
or stick his monocle up his arse,
but her words have become infused with warmth over time
and the whole incident is now the stuff of family legend.
That is a great email.
That is a great email.
Well written, well dispatched.
Thank you, Anonymous.
Thank you very much, Mr. Anonymous.
I do really want to read his name
because he's got quite a good name,
but I won't betray our confidence.
I like the idea of buying your Christmas meal.
Not the meat, man.
Not the man.
Have you ever bought meat or fish just off a guy?
I get a guy who knocks on the door semi-regularly now
where I live in South London offering to sell his fish.
Yeah.
But I never buy it.
No.
I'm trying to think.
My dad once brought home a
crab he found on a pipe. He used to work at a
chemical plant.
And he found a crab on a pipe
about seven o'clock in the morning when I was getting
ready for school. He was cooking a
crab and it was trying to crawl
out the pot. And it was...
And the air escaping from his
shell made like a
screeching noise.
I think that's the most haunting thing that's been mentioned on this show.
What is life?
No start to the school day, really.
I'd done my paper round, I'd done my graft, he'd done his,
and he'd come on with a live crab in his bag. I don't like being on a show with someone who talks about their dad
bringing home a crab he found on a pipe.
I don't even know what that means.
He worked in a chemical works, it was next to a beach, so... about their dad bringing home a crab he found on a pipe. I don't even know what that means. We live on...
He worked in a chemical works.
It was next to a beach, so...
Not the nicest beach.
I found a crab on a pipe.
Yeah, I'm going to cook it and eat it.
And he ate it as well.
When he first arrived in Hartlepool from Seaham,
which I don't think is quite as close to the sea as Hartlepool.
He went basically down to Hartlepool he went basically
down to
Hartlepool
which is not
known for its
splendour
it's not the
Costa del Sol
let's put it that way
just as many
criminals
none of them
paid tax
and there was
cockles everywhere
and he's like
oh my god
got a bucket
filled with
why is nobody
eating all these
cockles
why is nobody eating these cock cockles? Why is nobody eating
these cockles?
This is insane.
He soon found out
why nobody ate the cockles.
Give him the shits.
For days.
For days.
He said he thought
he was going to die.
Give him the two bobs.
Yeah.
So.
Did I tell you the story
about me in the
Charlie Chaplin pub
in Elephant and Castle?
No.
So I was in,
it used to be quite
a rough pub.
I don't know where
it is now.
I don't really go there.
But it's a big,
if you know that part of London,
it's a big pub on the corner of the massive roundabout.
And I'm in there having a beer.
I can't remember why I was there.
I must have been going...
I might have been going to a gig or something.
I'm in this pub about six o'clock,
having a few beers.
And this guy comes up to me.
He looks like a wrong one.
Older guy, sort of unshaven.
Sort of guy who would tell you
that he was pals with the Craze or something.
That sort of guy.
Comes up to me
and he goes,
all right,
do you want to buy some cheese?
And I said,
well,
not really.
And he pulled out
a massive deli block of cheese,
still in the plastic,
right?
And I said,
no,
I don't really want it.
And he went,
oh,
it's only a five or something.
I was like,
it's actually really good value.
But I still don't want it.
And cheese doesn't really,
you can keep it quite easily in a cupboard, can't you? You don't have to, you don't have to. And cheese doesn't really, you can keep it quite easily
in a cupboard, can't you?
You don't have to,
you don't have to
put it in the fridge.
Well, it has to be refrigerated.
No, it has to be refrigerated.
Nah, nah.
Mate, cheese, come on.
I always refrigerate my cheese.
Get in touch if you don't.
Hello at Lukeandpete.com.
Well, you see, like,
brie and stuff,
that's just hanging about,
isn't it?
True.
In the larders.
This story hasn't finished.
I would keep cheddar in the fridge
because it would dry out otherwise.
Well, you're running back now. You're running back now. I'm not, I'm just saying. Because I have this thing about when fridge Because it would dry out otherwise Well you're roaring back now
You're roaring back now
I'm not I'm just saying
Because I have this thing about
When you go to the supermarket
If you buy tomatoes or blueberries
For example from the supermarket
They're not refrigerated
No
But you put them in the
Well you put the blueberries in the fridge I think
Tomatoes apparently
It's bad for the flavour
To put them in the fridge
Oh is it right okay
Yeah and I think it's bad
Oh I'm a sensitive teeth
Imagine biting into a tomato
I know exactly exactly, yeah.
And I don't think you have to put eggs in the fridge either, do you?
No.
No.
Anyway, so the guy tries to sell him the cheese.
I say no.
This is no word of a lie.
He's doing this round the shop.
Sell my cheese.
Yeah, your mother.
Round the pub he's trying to sell his cheese.
And he eventually sort of disappears.
It's quite a big pub.
About five minutes later...
A mouse comes in.
No, massive mouse.
Big mouse. Five minutes later, the A mouse comes in. Massive mouse.
Five minutes later, the same guy comes in the same door he came in earlier,
and he comes right up to me again and says,
do you want to buy this? And he's got a car
battery.
So, do you reckon he's swapped
it for a car battery?
Do you reckon he's like a swap guy? He's trying to, you know,
make his million by just swapping larger
and more valuable things. There's a book about that called...
Is it called One Red Paperclip?
Oh, OK, yeah.
It starts with a paperclip and it goes like...
It gets a house or something, yeah.
I'm not buying cheese off a man
who also sells car batteries and vice versa.
Oily hands.
Yeah.
I mean, you can at least test the cheese immediately.
You can't test a car battery immediately, can you?
It's one of those things where if I had a few more pints
and a few crackers lying around,
I might break into it.
Just get involved.
Yeah, give it a go.
I think I've spoken about it on this very show
that a man at a deli in Honor Park once sold me
a similar large amount of cheese that he'd got in,
halloumi cheese, that he'd got in for a...
Yeah, perfect.
Yeah, for a cheesecake.
He said, I'm thinking about making a cheesecake.
I've got all this halloumi.
Do you want some?
I'll give you a good deal. And I was like, I like cheesecake. Maybe I thinking about making a cheesecake. I've got all this halloumi. Do you want some? I'll give you a good deal.
And I was like, I like cheesecake.
Maybe I'll try making a cheesecake.
I didn't know what halloumi was.
I'd only been in London for a year.
I'd never tasted it.
It's not a cheesecake cheese and all that for a fact.
It's very salty and very fatty.
I'm going for a big meal with my family soon.
And it's one of those places where you have to tell them.
You're looking that far.
I'll go for a meal with my family soon. I'll tell you why. Because my family's got involved and said of those places where you have to tell them you're looking that far that far no I'll tell you why
I'll go for a meal
with my family soon
I'll tell you why
because my family's got involved
and said to me
we're doing this thing
right
my cousin's very talented
and he's actually
performing the West End
at the moment
right
we're going to go watch him
and we're going for dinner afterwards
and the reason I know
I'm having halloumi
is because it's one of those restaurants
where you have to tell them
what you're having in advance
oh is that right
yeah
I think piss off because it's a big party so you have to so I'm having halloumi you're going for halloumi is because it's one of those restaurants where you have to tell what you're having in advance oh is that right yeah i think piss off there's a big party so you have to
i'm having halloumi you're going for halloumi and i'm having the steak i don't think it is
fatty i think it's got a lot of renny it's full of fat i it's it would be too nah i'm not on that
do you want me to google it right now i reckon it's it's one of the lower fat cheeses it's too
taut it's too tight you're out of your mind. Brie, fatty.
Fair do's.
Camembert, fatty.
Fair do's.
All the Gorgonzola's and that,
they're sweaty.
You can feel the grease on them.
Halloumi, I think it's just the rennet
and the proteins are so strong
that's why it holds its...
You're doing a very convincing job of...
It's 71% fat.
Yeah, well, alright.
Compare it to another one.
Type in Gorgonzola.
What percentage of fat?
Shall I just do cheddar
for a real...
No, because that's a similar
cheese answer.
Gorgonzola, okay.
Fat content of Gorgonzola, yeah?
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright, I'll give it a go.
71% halloumi.
It's 10, isn't it?
Gorgonzola,
75%. It's not really solved any of our problems, isn't it? Gorgonzola, 75%.
It's not really solved any of our problems, really, is it?
Shall I just do cheddar?
I'm surprised.
Just for pizza marks, we'll do cheddar.
I'll just do cheddar.
I'm surprised 71% is halloumi.
That's a lot of fat.
To be fair, because we're in a live radio environment,
I'm basically just looking at the first thing that comes up.
This might even be wrong.
Maybe there's a cheese expert. Maybe there's a cheese expert.
Maybe there's a cheese connoisseur.
Fat content of cheddar looks to me 75.5, so about the same.
About the same.
So maybe it is on the lighter side, but maybe it's between 70 and 80.
It's cheese at the end of the day.
What's the next email?
It's your turn.
All right, I've got an email from Gareth.
Hello, Gareth.
He's basically...
We mentioned Hachiko, the dog.
The Shibuya dog.
Oh, yeah, give people a little quick proce of that.
Grey fries, bobby, but Japanese.
A dog who would not stop waiting at a station for his owner,
even after his death, for ten years after his death.
That's right, yeah.
So there you go.
But basically, he found the trailer to a Richard Gere...
..a Richard Gere film about it, basically.
A dog's tale, it's called.
It wasn't made that long ago, to be honest.
So do you want to hear a little bit of it? It is
unspeakable, to be quite frank. When was it made?
It was made...
2009, apparently.
Yeah, he just said, Gareth Burrows
in Newport in Wales. He says,
I thought I'd show you the fact that Hachiko
was turned into a really crap movie starring
Richard Gere, hence the film being
really crap. Anyway, keep up the good work.
But here is a little bit of it, anyway.
My grandfather...
We're at a school.
Hachiko was my grandfather Wilson's dog.
Everyone called Hachi a mystery dog
because he never really knew where he came from.
Dog appears.
That's where their story began.
Hey, buddy, you lost?
One chance encounter. He was where their story began. Hey, little buddy, you lost? One chance encounter.
He was at the train station.
I just thought you'd bring him home and talk me into keeping him.
Tomorrow morning I'm going to find out exactly where he belongs.
BK.
I love him.
A miraculous story.
Does he even eat me?
Yes, he does.
Temporary guests.
So the mom's not having it, but Richard Gere, the dad, is having it.
No, no, no, no.
The ball.
Richard Gere's got a ball in his mouth to show everyone how...
show the dog how to grab a ball.
What's he doing here?
Whoa!
Good work.
So go ahead, go on home.
I mean, it's just a lot of longing glances from Richard Gere towards a dog.
To be fair, they've got the right kind of dog, an Akita dog.
So this dog is just meeting him every
morning and afternoon from work.
I think I know where this is going.
Oh. Oh dear.
You don't have to wait anymore. He's not coming back.
You don't have to wait anymore. He's not coming back. You don't have to wait anymore.
He's not coming back.
And the person who says that is that block out of Seinfeld.
The fat guy.
The fat guy out of Seinfeld.
What's his name?
George Costanza.
George Costanza.
Hachi inspired a town.
Is that the dog that I've been hearing so much about?
To discover friendship can last forever.
Every day comes a time to place.
Sounds like you can make a good story.
Starring Richard Gere.
Academy Award nominee Joan Allen.
She ain't getting one for that.
No way.
Terrible.
And Jason Alexander, George Costanza.
Here's one for you then.
Has Richard Gere ever done a good film?
So people will say Pretty Woman.
I haven't watched that for years,
but I would be surprised if it stands up well.
And he's in Terrence Malick's Days of Heaven, isn't he?
Yeah.
I can't really remember ever seeing,
but I'm sure it's good because it's Terrence Malick.
I should get films.
Other than that,
we're struggling really, aren't we?
He's not done one for a long time.
He's in that film with Bruce Willis, The Jackal,
but I don't think that's very good.
No, I mean, like,
he's in Chicago.
He followed up the success of Chicago
with Hatchie, Dog's Tail, Runaway Bride.
Oh, that's Julia Roberts and him reunited.
I'm not interested in that.
Is it?
That sounds terrible.
The bride runs away.
But he's kind of indicative of a wider problem in Hollywood
where an older man
is paired up with
a much younger woman
and there's
you know
it's never nice to see
there was a film
fairly recently
with Tom Cruise
where isn't he
doesn't he star alongside
Emily Blunt
right
and she's his
love interest
I think
is it Edge of Tomorrow
okay
and I think
I mean
how old would Tom Cruise
Be at the moment?
Uh
53
I'll check
Tom Cruise
This is fact checking
I'm having it though
Tom Cruise is 55
Right
Emily Blunt
Is
I'm gonna guess
How old Emily Blunt is
Because I think
I know
33
34 Ah Yes It wouldn't happen The other way around Would it? Is all I'm saying to guess how old Emily Lunt is, because I think I know. 33? 34.
Ah!
Yes, but it wouldn't happen the other way around, would it, is all I'm saying?
No, it wouldn't.
And if it did, that would be what the film would be about.
Yeah.
That would be the plot of the film, wouldn't it?
I think Daniel Craig's co-star was roughly his age in the last Bond film.
Yeah, it was...
Ah, what's her name?
The Italian woman.
I forget her name now.
That beautiful woman.
Yeah, she's very attractive. What's her name? The Italian woman I forget her name now That beautiful woman And he made the point of saying
Well
This is exactly how it should be
Rather than how it shouldn't be
This is exactly how it should be
And I mean specifically her
She's brilliant
Isn't he married to Rachel Weisz?
Any more emails?
Adel Weisz None my end Any more emails? Edelweiss.
None my end, unless you've got one that you really, you know.
Well, I've got one here from Aaron Inglethorpe,
who takes us back to Death Row.
Oh, right, okay.
We were going to do it last week, but we didn't.
Yeah, Death Row.
Death Row prisoners and their last meal.
We talked quite a lot about prisoners' last meal,
quite interesting.
And Aaron chips in by saying, apparently the last meal for death row prisoners may have been a bribe traditionally to stop the ghosts of the prisoners haunting the executioners
he includes a quote here which says in medieval europe many believed that well-fed prisoners could
be executed without fear of their returning as ghosts the quality of the final meal was also
believed to influence the likelihood of their doing so.
If the food and drink were of the best quality,
it was believed that prisoners would be less
likely to haunt their executioners.
If the meals were poor, many believed prisoners
would return as malevolent spirits bent on
tormenting those involved in their death.
Wow. There we go. Could be something to do with it.
Well, at least they're thinking about it.
That's all I'm saying. At least they're thinking about it that's all i'm saying at least they're thinking
about it shall we do a bit of mencarta yeah let there be justice for all
you don't understand willie was a salesman say simply very simply, with hope
Good morning
Good morning
Good morning, everyone
Good morning
You need to cut the end of that off, by the way
No, you do it
We're moving to a new studio
I can't do it
We can do it when we move to a new studio
Sicata, when I was in Sicata a couple of weeks ago
I was lucky enough to see a mummy
Two mummies, in fact
Oh, you said you were going to main cast for it last week, but you forgot
Yeah, I didn't induct.
I didn't forget.
We just ran out of time.
We don't want to labour
points on this show,
even though we have
just spent about five
minutes googling
Richard Gere films.
That's the beauty of it,
though.
That's the freedom of it.
That's the freedom.
Can we get Richard Gere on?
So, when I was there,
I saw two movies.
Basically, we were on
the way back from,
I went up to a friend
of a friend's
internet startup company.
A guy made a load of money in solar panels.
This is very brand bonus on this.
Yeah, so he made a lot of money in solar panels,
and we went to his, basically,
there's not a lot of stuff going on in Sakata,
so people are just leaving, the young and the talented.
So this guy's trying to get people to people to stick around basically and do their thing in
in leafy cicada leafy sleepy cicada and um we went to his internet startup company i rode on a
hoverboard for the first time you know those little wheelie things any good uh after the first falling
off i tore my trouser from um uh through the tent i tore my trous trousers completely. My tent was exposed.
If I was not wearing trousers,
pants,
I would have Lenny Kravitz.
I would have Lenny Kravitz everywhere.
Did you actually properly fall off then?
Yeah, I fell off massively and tore my trousers asunder.
Then we went for sushi.
And he's this big kind of Japanese guy
and he's a proper boss guy.
And he eats sushi like you're supposed to, apparently,
with your hands.
None of this chopstick nonsense.
You just pick it up with your hands.
And you don't dip the rice in the soy sauce.
You turn the sushi upside down and dip the meat,
the tuna or whatever.
What difference does it make?
Well, it just means that your rice isn't saturated
with soy sauce.
Because we all know that rice absorbs
a lot of water. It's literally its job.
Whether you're clearing out an iPhone or
drying out an iPhone or just cooking
rice, that's what it does. Or drying your clothes.
But on the way back, you just went, do you want to see your mummy?
In Japanese, to my friend. And my friend went, do you want to see
your mummy? And then I said, alright then.
Or, hi. Can this guy not speak any any English uh no very little and I speak very
little Japanese but uh so we went to see uh two mummies um the Shingon sect uh which is kind of
like one part old Shintoism one part Buddhism one part Taoism and uh basically it's the process
of self-mummification self-mummification. Self-mummification?
That sounds pretty full-on.
So basically, these two mummies,
I think there's 12 of them in total
who managed to do it in the region,
and there was two of them in front of me
in this really dark room,
it was so solemn and quiet,
this woman sort of led us in very quietly,
there was nobody in the town,
we were the only three people looking at these mummies they they are dead yes yeah they've been dead for a
long time yeah you know so these are the steps involved in what these two men these skeletal
you know skeletal mummy men uh who look good for the eighth their ages you know this is like
a good you know 400 years ago or something. Right.
Extremely rigorous and painful steps involved.
For the first 1,000 days, the monks ceased all food except nuts, seeds, fruits and berries.
And they also engaged in extensive physical activity to strip themselves of all body fat. So this is basically a conscious decision to essentially kill themselves.
Yeah, but they didn't see it as suicide.
They saw it as eternal life.
Right.
For the next 1,000 days, after they didn't see it as suicide. They saw it as eternal life. Right. For the next thousand days,
after they've stripped themselves of all body fat,
their diet was restricted to just bark and roots.
Near the end of this period,
they would drink poisonous tea
made from the sap of the Urushi tree,
which caused vomiting and a rapid loss of bodily fluids.
Wow.
It also acted as a preservative
because maggots and bacteria
that would cause the body to decay after death wouldn't eat the body because it's poisonous.
Right.
In the final stage, after six years of torturous preparation, the monk would lock himself in a stone tomb barely larger than his body, like a hole in the ground, like you're in a crouched, cross-legged position with about, probably about six feet or maybe 10 feet of rocks on top of
you basically um not like pressurizing you there was supports but that this is the space you had
um he was seated in like the lowest position uh it was no no bigger than his body he would go into
a state of meditation um and it was a position he wouldn't move until he died and there was a
small air tube provided um so it would supply oxygen to the tube.
It would also have a string through this tube as well,
because every morning, each day,
the monk rang a bell to let the outside world know he was still alive.
When the bell stopped ringing, the tube was removed
and the tomb was sealed for the final thousand-day period of the ritual.
At the end of the period, the tomb would be opened
to see if the monk was successful in mummifying himself.
If the body was found in a preserved state,
the monk was raised to the status of
Buddha. His body was removed from the tomb
and he was placed in a temple where he was worshipped
and revered. If the body had decomposed, though,
the monk was resealed in the tomb
and respected for his endurance, but not
worshipped. My God. That's a fuck
you, isn't it? That was a full-on thing
to listen to that, Pete. I mean, it was a full-on thing to see, to be honest. That's a fuck you innit? That was a full on thing to listen to that Pete. I mean it was a full on thing
to see to be honest. That was
that stuff is great because it's
really interesting to know
mad stuff that goes on. But that
for me in terms of people listening to that, that's up there
with the torture stuff we were doing. Nah well you
do it to yourself and that's what really hurts
as Tom Yorke once sang.
Yeah. So Kushimbutsu.
Wow. I mean obviously it doesn't
happen now but back in the day was that a thing it was outlawed it was outlawed in fact by the
japanese but was it fairly common well it was common within this particular sect which is very
small it's very small sect but uh wow there's 12 uh functioning mummies let's say and who knows
how many others that haven't been deified kicking about. Mumsy!
And I, the thing is, I'd that was the day that I'd torn my
trousers and I didn't want to see. Oh God, that's real
hardship. I'll tell you what they've been
through, haven't they? No, but I was looking at this
so she comes in, she rings this bell
she bows to the two mummies
and she opens the doors to these two
mummies and I wasn't
expecting to see the mummy
so i had my prescription sunglasses on so i look like mr rockstar fucking bono looking not taking
my sunglasses i can't see anything otherwise and and i had my legs crossed because because if i
open my legs you could see my my pants and these guys have been deified. These guys are budders
effectively. Yeah. And this
and the Japanese bloke give
me and my mate a nudge
and I had to open my legs
to show them my pants.
But they're dead, they don't know.
It's disrespectful, isn't it mate? I'm wearing
sunglasses and I've got my pants out. If anyone
beyond death would know, it'd be them.
They've earned the right, haven't
they?
They've earned
the right.
Well, listen, if
you want to get
involved in
Suggish and
Batuu.
Don't self-muff
on.
If you are going
to contribute.
You want to lose
weight?
Nuts and
seeds.
That's what I've
been doing.
If you are going
to contribute
further to that,
then do get in
touch.
Hello at
LukeandPeteShow.com.
Have you ever
seen a mummy?
For anything, you know. Why not? of the major uh exhibitions uh exhibits rather in the um great art museum in hartlepool our only museum um certainly when i was a kid
it's probably still there was um excuse me did a little bab um uh was a um skeleton of a mermaid. Oh, really?
So it was the top half of a person and the bottom half of a fish.
And that was on display.
And for the longest time, I believe,
mermaids existed because of this disgusting affront to God.
One of the main museums in my hometown is Explosion!
Exclamation mark.
The Museum of Naval Firepower.
Oh, God.
Yeah. I'll be honest Firepower. Oh, God. Yeah.
I'll be honest, I've never been there.
Right, let's get out of here.
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Let's get out of here.
We'll speak to you next week, probably, I imagine.
We haven't mummified ourselves.
Past the tree bark.
Mother.