The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 35: The Words Show
Episode Date: January 29, 2018Another week and another themed episode from the chaps, as this time around they get stuck into wordy matters, including yet more children with inadvisable names. We find time for more Steve McQueen a...nd Paul Newman chat too, as well as a decent treatise on Pete's specialist subject - getting drunk at home in your underwear.There's also good news for the statue enthusiasts among you, so stay tuned for Mencarta.Further Reading:The Bruce Lee Statue in Mostar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Bruce_Lee_(Mostar)The Dutch Reach: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/the-dutch-reach-how-opening-car-door-like-the-dutch-could-save-lives-cycling/Towering Inferno trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsRnQQpklPMLeave us a review, and a rating on iTunes and don't forget to subscribe!Socials: @lukeandpeteshowEmail: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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words luke moore words are all i have to take the something away that song words we all need them
yeah it's the luke and pete shaw number words and we're back for more fun and games, but mainly words.
It's not going to be dull, though, if you're thinking,
oh, sod off, whiz bit, not interested.
Not interested about words.
Shut up, Poindexter.
It wasn't whiz bit.
It was, who's the one, Magic E.
Do you remember Magic, Magic E?
No.
If you're not English, it doesn't really work.
But it was basically a kids' TV show, uh educational show that was on around 10 a.m
if you're off for ill uh from school for some reason they always used to put educational shows
on when people were at school which didn't make any sense uh but it was a it was a little little
wonky little animal that used to change words around words change around with me something
change around with me magic magic i think you'd be a pretty good children's presenter.
Why haven't I got that job?
Is it because I'm not CRB checked?
Almost certainly.
Is it because I'm not CRB checked?
But this is episode 35.
I am, of course, Luke Moore.
Opposite me is Mr. Pete Donaldson.
Yeah, sweet picture, baby.
Someone photoshopped a picture of us, didn't they?
Yeah.
We forgot to mention it last week.
They put my hair on your face and your hair on my face.
Yeah, it wasn't like a simple face swap.
They put your hair on my face.
I've just said that.
And my hair on your face.
But what I would say is, I would start the show by saying what I would say is,
is that I look magnificent and you look dreadful.
Absolutely.
So it's on our Instagram, which is LukeandPeteShow.
Do check it out.
Follow us and all the rest of it
I'll put it straight up there
and I said to you privately
and I'll say it again now
you look like a million dollars
with my hair
you look like a guy
who used to be
in a good
sort of
west coast
band
and has lived healthily
ever since
yeah
but now
there's a lot of yoga
and now is a very successful actor
you almost look like
an alternative Justin Timberlake.
Whereas I look like
a dangerous predator.
You look like your face
could fit a scar
in that particular situation.
I mean, to be fair,
your hair,
it was like post-haircut
photograph day,
wasn't it, at school
with that hair.
I mean, it was a particularly
good example of your hair
if you don't want to say.
Yeah, I think we had it.
We had to have photos done for some show
we were doing, live show or something.
Did I take my clothes off?
Almost certainly.
I was in better nick that day.
So we've decided that episode 35
is the words show.
Words!
The subtitle, sort of tagline for this show
is words. We all need them.
Yeah, words are all I have.
Have you ever been to take your heart away?
To take a heart away, that's what it is.
It's only words.
Yeah.
And words are all I have to take your heart away.
Why does he want to take a heart away?
I think he wants to take it for his own.
Oh, I see.
That song was popularised more recently by,
was it Boyzoned?
But it was, of course,
written by the fantastic
Gibb brothers.
The Gibb brothers.
The Gibb brothers.
Yeah.
Were they all brothers,
all three of them?
I think there were more
than three, were there not?
Were there what?
But I think only three
of them were in the Bee Gees.
I didn't want to meet
the other one.
Only three of them.
Did you remember when
they were on that chat show
and they all stormed off?
Yes, beautiful.
Was it Morgan?
No.
Clive Anderson.
Clive Anderson.
Fantastic. Have you ever been
in a situation
where you've travelled somewhere,
you've gone overseas,
the native language
is not English
and you can't speak
the local language
and the people
you're encountering
can't speak your language
but it's in a bar
or something like that
and the only thing
you can ever bond over
is the name
of football players
from each country.
Yes,
it happens a lot in taxis
to be fair. I think I was in
Ghent in Belgium and there was a bloke who
I don't speak any French or
anything really.
You've got a bit of Japanese in the locker.
I've got a little bit of Japanese in the locker.
All those DVD movies you're watching.
That was interesting to think about
watching it. Some of the words
they'll say something,
and the actual subtitles that come up is something completely different.
Right.
So I think the translator sometimes goes,
well, they mean this, don't they?
Right.
That's an interesting rewriting of what was just said on the screen.
Very strange.
So words, then.
Words are important.
Words are important.
We talked, interestingly enough,
I suppose we unintentionally segued into this episode by ending last week's show
talking about books and hard books to read and easy books to read and all the rest of it.
So we decided to expand upon that this week with a words show.
Words.
This is largely made up of listener contributions as usual.
Do you want to do an It's Bean this week or are you not going to do that? I would smash through it into the
emails, I think. Is that fair, Deuce? Have you done anything
particularly interesting this week?
Yeah, now you're asking.
Now you're asking.
How's your kitchen?
I'll update you periodically on that.
The thing I'm worried about
is that people like to hear you do it.
It's been!
It's been end!
It's the shortest It's Been section. Oh. It's been. There you go. It's been end. Yeah, finish. It's the shortest It's Been
section on record. It's gone.
Alright, so straight into the emails then about
words. Yeah, Helen Little says
I could do with the French having a phrase
for that feeling of being late to a party
but attending anyway because I was catching up on some
recent episodes of the Luke and Pete show this morning
and I enjoyed the discussion of enjoyable foreign
phrases. Luke later mentioned
Americans calling candy floss cotton candy,
which reminded me of my favourite foreign language fact.
The French for candy floss is barbe a papa.
Or barbe a papa.
Or grandfather's beard.
Grandfather's beard! Isn't that lovely?
That's fantastic.
They also call table football baby foot,
which we should be doing.
Well, I agree with that.
That is one of my favourite French words.
Yeah, so...
Le baby foot.
Table football... Je joue au baby foot. Yeah. I thought my favourite French words. Yeah, so... Le baby foot. Table football.
Je joue au baby foot.
Yeah.
I thought you didn't speak any French.
Je joue au baby foot.
What does that mean?
I play.
Je joue au football.
Il est bout.
You're going to carry on with this?
Oui, ça va très bien, monsieur.
Assez-vous la classe.
It's not bad.
You've got more French than me.
What?
Sit down, classe.
Yeah.
Bonjour, madame Lam.
Stop this. Stop this.
Stop this.
The only...
Because I've got something to say.
And this is the word show.
The only other word I know for table football is foosball.
Foosball, yeah.
That was adopted in...
Friends.
America.
In Friends, yeah.
There was a weird thing of those darn millennials watching Friends.
There's some people
who've never watched Friends
for the first time
because it's now on Netflix
and they're watching it
and they're going,
oh, this is a bit
homophobic.
This is a bit rough.
There was actually
a debate on a radio station
which escapes me
about this
and I actually heard
some of it
and they were saying that
people were coming new
to Friends,
this 90s beer moth
at the show.
These actors are getting a million dollars an episode and all the rest of it um it was really sort of um if you think that there's so many big networked shows now netflix and all the rest of
it but that that was a that was a stood alone didn't it in the time the time everyone knew it
knew it they were saying on that that all the men in it are like quite objectionable characters like
like joey's like a objectionable characters like Joey's like
a real pervert
like in this
post Weinstein environment
that we're now living
it just looks awful
Ross is this homophobic
terrified of
two gay women
you know
his ex-wife
who turns out to be gay
he makes loads
of unsavoury jokes
about lesbianism
and all the rest of it
but you've got to remember
like the writers
will have been
you know
grown up in like the 60s.
That's the thing.
But because it was so fresh
and so cool at the time.
But isn't it,
I get that.
We kind of forget,
nobody remembers
the bad shit.
It's like the first series
of Only Fools and Horses.
That was full of
Pakistani jokes,
all that crap.
But they never got played against
and nobody ever really
sort of picks them up
or they got edited out anyway.
But the writers of Friends
wouldn't have grown up in the 60s.
Well, they would have been pretty,
they would have been old hands.
I mean, this is a big network TV show.
No matter how,
there wouldn't have been, like,
young fucking thrusting writers on Friends.
Like, there would have been
some old journeyman kind of studio writers on it,
I'm sure.
So one of the main creators was David Crane,
and he's now 60. Right, okay. So he would have been, he would have been in the 70s, basically. But he would have been, he would have been, I'm sure. So one of the main creators was David Crane and he's now 60.
So he would have been,
so he'd have grown up
in the 70s basically.
But he would have been,
he would have been,
yeah, exactly,
but he would have been
kind of writing with writers
who were much older than him,
I'm sure of that.
I get that,
but do you not find it fascinating
how just,
how quickly the pace of life
is moving on now?
I mean,
the frenzy isn't that long ago.
Honestly,
you can listen to,
I'm glad that I was like, didn't grow you can listen to I'm glad that I was like
didn't grow up with YouTube
I'm glad that
what are you going to say with you
that's alright
I'm glad I didn't
sort of grow up
because like
when you're a kid
you sort of try and be
a bit edgy
you try and be a bit naughty
and stuff
and I'm so glad
there ain't that much stuff
out there of me
on the internet
because
people
you know
trial by Twitter
and stuff like that people can't let shit go I'm just as bad I'm people, you know, trial by Twitter and stuff like that.
People can't let shit go.
I'm just as bad.
I'm still like,
you know,
judge people quite harshly.
And I've always been
very, very careful
about what I say.
But I mean,
but judged,
even in the last five years,
things have moved so quickly.
And, you know,
I'm mid-thirties now
and I'm trying to keep up.
I'm trying to keep up.
And I thought I'm doing an all right job,
but it's hard.
It's very difficult.
With our clothes, we're not keeping up.
No, no, no.
But Friends finished in 2004.
It's not that long ago.
No, but it's...
Relatively speaking.
It's still, you know, nigh on 15, isn't it?
Anyway, how do we get talking about...
Oh, foosball.
Foosball.
Oh, yeah, foosball.
Textbook tangent now.
Well, speaking of the media,
Helen Little does go on to say,
a bonus towering inferno rivalry fact.
Not only did Newman and McQueen
have reportedly the same number of lines,
but they both wanted to be first to build
on the movie posters.
This led to the introduction of diagonal billing,
where names were positioned
so that Newman's was first reading top down,
but McQueen's was first reading left to right.
I remember learning about that at university
and the general reaction
in the room of 19 year olds
was what a pair of children
I agree
Mark Elms also got in touch
with that fact as well
fantastic
Fred Astaire received
his only Oscar nomination
for this film
and not for any
of the musical pictures
for which he was most famous
interesting
are you having that?
yeah I didn't know that
so much Towering Inferno gossip
I mean because that was
a proper ensemble
kind of big hitter cast as well.
He plays the con man in the movie, doesn't he?
Absolutely, for ages.
Fred Astaire plays the con man in that.
It's also worth noting that,
and Helen, I know for a fact,
has been listening to our podcast for over 10 years.
So she's a glut of a punishment, but God bless her.
Fred Astaire apparently had a well-known,
like official request.
I don't know if he wrote it legally into a contract
or whatever he could do legally to do this, but he wanted to ensure that his life was never portrayed in a film.
He said, I have no idea. I'm sorry, I have no particular desire to have my life misinterpreted,
which it would be. So that's what there's never been a biopic made about Fred Astaire,
who had an amazing life and was an incredibly talented guy.
That's interesting, isn't it? How did that kind of...
How could he stop people doing that?
Could we not just make a film about
Benny a bear?
Benny a bear there.
Just make it a fake
biopic about someone who
may or may not be Fred Astaire.
There was...
I think it's about Fred Astaire that apparently famously
the notes made from his first audition about him,
who then went on to be the greatest dancer
in the history of cinema, arguably.
One of the greatest male film stars of all time.
But the quote after his first audition
on the notes made by potential directors and stuff
or casting agents said,
can't act, can't sing, can dance a little.
Apparently that's what it said.
I mean, I can't remember his acting very well dance a little apparently that's what he said I mean I can't remember
his acting very well
but his dancing
certainly
top notch
and speaking as a dancer
yourself
of some repute
I know right
I mean round the nightclubs
of Hartlepool
Snake kept Donny
in the looms
as they call him
as they call him
there we go
Mark Elms also got in touch
with this fact
about towering of Fener
didn't he
have you already mentioned that
yes I've already mentioned that
Mark Elms is another friend of the podcast.
Well, that's why I brought him in early doors.
That's why I brought him in early doors.
I think Mark Elms is the chap we know who used to run the Prince Charles Cinema in Leicester Square.
I believe that's the case.
Yeah.
I think he's somewhere else now.
Oh, we're hobnobbing.
We're hobnobbing with the best...
The Prince Charles Cinema is the best cinema in Leicester Square as well.
Yeah, it is.
I mean, it's not a big...
They're redoing the audience
I'm going to
reserve judgement
until the audience
finished
it's getting a
remake
you're not going
near
there's no way
you are going
near the audience
or any of those
other ones in
Leicester Square
because the prices
are unreal
I went to see
Dunkirk in
80mm
I forget which
size
big film
big old film
and I was sat in the post sheets and it was the best part 25 quid it was obscene And it's 80 millimetres. I forget which size. Big, big film in here. Big old film.
And I was sat in the post sheets.
And it was the best part of 25 quid.
It was obscene.
I think it's more than that now.
I think it's around 30 quid to go and watch,
at least to go and watch a movie in Leicester Square.
And that was like 11 o'clock in the morning.
I think they don't change it by time, do they?
No. They should do, because no one goes there during the day.
No, exactly.
Spread out. There we go. That's why I say
that's when my dad goes to the
View Cinema in Hartlepool in the afternoons.
He takes half an hour. Go on, you do another one, mate.
Devon in Berlin.
Basically, a word that we've not
heard before. I think it's
Feierabend.
Feierabend.
Which describes a German word,
or German two words, I guess,
or a concatenated word, if you will,
which describes a sense of well-being, relief and relaxation
that one experiences as they get off work for the night.
It's commonly referred to by workers and officers around the country,
which tells me that, at least with regards to the work-life balance,
Germans have their priorities straight. The best part best part however is the literal translation to english
fire arband is party evening very good did you check that guten arband i know arban's night in
it i've never heard that um we i suppose we have demob happy which would be similar happy yeah i
think that that probably refers more to actually leaving the job for good. Fantastic.
Here's one from Dave Enzor.
Enzor!
Who mentions yet another word which fits perfectly into the words show, Pete. Yeah.
He says, I recently discovered the Dutch reach.
Dave, you filthbag!
The Dutch reach, I'm not having this.
So this is relevant to my interest, and I'll tell you why shortly.
He says, it's nowhere near as rude as it seems.
The phrase is actually a potential lifesaver.
Now, many people out there will have heard of this,
but I'm sure there are some people who haven't.
The term originates from a technique
used to avoid dooring,
where a cyclist hits a car door being opened
by a less than aware driver.
So you imagine the car's parked up on the roadside,
the cyclist is riding past,
someone without looking opens the door
and absolutely smashes the cyclist.
It says it involves using your far hand
to open the car door,
forcing your body to turn around
and take note of any potential hazards before you exit.
So if you imagine it,
you use your other hand,
so you turn your whole body.
For drivers on the right,
it would be your right hand.
On your left, it would be,
in the UK, your left.
It's a great habit to get into, isn't it? It is. In a country where cycling is prevalent, it's the uk you're left now it's a great habit to get into isn't it
it is um in a country uh with cycling is prevalent in holland you can see why it's important but the
term doesn't actually originate from there it's an apparent us invention i guess they named it
after the fact that everyone in amsterdam has all right okay this happens to me all the time
but when you get dod but when i'm running not when i'm cycling what people just open the
so if i'm running along a pavement so I go out for a run in the evening,
and I run down the pavement,
I promise you I've been hit by a car door
on the passenger side,
or on the driver's side,
depending on what side of the road it is,
because people don't look.
So it's not just cyclists it affects,
it affects walkers and runners.
And I've been knocked to the ground
on more than one occasion by it.
What about a DeLorean?
Yeah, that's the answer.
I mean, that's the answer I mean that's the answer
let's pressure
car manufacturers
to make vertical doors
yeah vertical doors
luckily just to follow up
because I can tell you
you're concerned about
my state of my well-being
there Pete
as a way you just
brush over it
I'm never ever going
fast enough for it
to actually hurt me
so it's actually fine
of course with cyclists
they're normally going
a lot faster
it's a lot more dangerous
yeah
I was just thinking
what Dutch Reach could possibly mean in another context.
If I said to you...
If you could speculate as to what a Dutch reach was.
Yeah.
If I said to you, Dutch reach, explain to me what it is.
Someone...
Masturbating another man.
Masturbating a man, but using...
But going from between the legs.
From behind.
I don't think I've ever seen that.
Like somebody put an arm, hand...
I think we've got the picture.
In between the legs, but from buttock to front,
and then doing that.
They're delivering a scrotal injury from that.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
And the scrotal sack would nestle in the crook of the arm.
That magnet, I want to see that.
Album artwork for next week's show.
Me and you.
It's only slightly related to this.
My grandad used to be able to crack walnuts on his bicep.
Nice.
Yeah?
Nice.
So there was a nut resting in a crook of an arm.
Magnificent.
Shall we smash out a quick Adam Hess?
What's that?
Shall we give Adam Hess a real Dutch reach?
Hello, lads.
Emailing from Toronto with all key super heavy duties.
I can't speak this week.
Sorry.
Wanted to make an addition to the show's growing dictionary of words
without translation from the language of Finnish.
The world is...
Here we go.
The word is...
Can't say word.
Can't say word. The word is... Here we go. The word is... Can't say word. Can't say word.
The word is...
Kalsarikanit.
Yeah.
Kalsarikanit.
I reckon the R
will probably be rolled on that one.
What do you reckon?
Kalsarikanit.
I can't roll my R,
so it's impossible for me to know.
Rolling R's is really important,
I've noticed,
in European languages.
I'm more fond of stag do soon to
Budapest, and I don't want to be a usual
Englishman in Budapest, so I'm
trying to learn a couple of words.
Kirlik
is
please, and
other words
like that.
Kusunom is thank you, and I'll just try to get
a couple of things. But the rolling of the R's
is so important
in European languages.
I think...
Bulgarians are mad.
But Pete,
I think that learning
a few words
is worse than not
having any.
I know.
Because it invites people
to start going,
oh, he speaks Dutch
so here we go
and you get into
a load more awkward situations
that in the first instance
you're trying to avoid.
Yeah, but I mean
if you're just asking
for a carrier bag,
a tashka,
if you will,
I just try,
just,
just,
just,
I know where,
no,
in Hungarian,
I know,
like,
I know where the toilet is
and everything
in most places I've been.
Sorry,
I don't know why I said that.
From Mr. Toilet Room
to Hachangshu Odeo
in Korean
to Toirewa Doktaskar in Japanese. Everywhere I go, I just learn misty toilet room to hachang shu audio in Korean to Japanese
everywhere I go
I just learn
where's the toilet
because that's the one
thing you need
I know what it is
in Spanish
Los Servicios
Los Servicios
in Istanbul
the public toilets
have
exactly
the toilets have
two separate
types of toilet
one to
satisfy the
Asian way of going to the toilet and the Asian way of going to the toilet,
and the European way of going to the toilet.
Oh, is that right? Okay.
Because it is, I guess, the gateway, isn't it?
Oh, and actually, after you do this, and before we go into Mankata,
I've got an update on the Doomsday thing.
Oh, nice.
So, Kalsarakanit.
Yeah, Kalsarakanit.
Kalsarakanit means the feeling when you are going to get drunk at home,
alone, in your underwear, with no intention of going out. Or in your
case, Pete, Friday. Life. I don't
drink at home, so actually I tell a lie.
I do have a bottle of Campari
that I'm piling my way through. My God.
And I had it. I didn't have
any Sprite. I didn't have any soda water
so I had it with milk a couple of years ago.
Not too bad. Not
as bad as you'd imagine. I mean, the amount of stuff
we get through on this show, it's actually remarkable that neither of us think about the other imagine I mean the amount of stuff we get through on this show
it's actually remarkable
that neither of us
think about the other
this is the kind of stuff
I don't want to be
associating with
but that is definitely
one of them
Campari and milk
and can I also
put it out there
you put it in beer
in Japan
not being able
to trust yourself
to have a beer or two
or a glass of wine
at home
is deviant behaviour
dangerous
what about trusting
it's just you know
it's indicative
of a wider problem
when I was in the US before Christmas,
I brewed my own beer.
Did I tell you that?
Oh, did you?
Yeah, I think I might have mentioned it.
Did you do that thing where,
I remember her reading about
a wanky, bloody little microbrewery,
a bloke made some yeast out of his beard hair.
Ugh.
How is that even possible?
Disgusting.
You make yeast out of anything
that's a bit dirty, can't you?
Horrible.
Bloody horrible.
I don't like to even consider that.
I don't either.
Oh, my words.
Shall we take a short break?
We'll be back after this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Always too quiet.
Always too quiet.
What I need to do is every time I adjust the volume to fade the music out at the start of the show, I need to do is every time I adjust the volume
to fade the music out at the start of the show,
I need to do a Dutch reach for the volume
and turn it back up again.
Welcome back.
Welcome back.
Pete, I think people, or I know for a fact,
because I've seen emails and tweets about it,
that people find it very endearing
that you always mock that up.
Well, exactly.
Before the break, and before we go into Ben Carter
and this words show,
and I suppose this sort of does count a little bit
because our catch-all terms are quite vague.
Last week, you'd have remembered,
I found the Doomsday book type thing on the BBC website.
And it was buggered.
Do you think I need to really explain again what it is?
They sliced up the UK into small quadrants.
In 1986?
In 1986.
And each quadrant, they got some people from the town
to explain what their town was like.
Is that right?
Yeah.
And then they uploaded it.
What life was like in their town,
and they uploaded it to the website.
Yeah, and so the idea being that a thousand years ago,
whatever, William the Conqueror had a doomsday book
which basically talked about the state of the country at that time.
They wanted to replicate that in 1986.
They did that by inviting over a million people
to contribute their local area stories
about what life was like in the UK in 1986.
Was this a BBC initiative?
A BBC initiative.
In 2011, it was uploaded to the internet
to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the project of course in 1986
last week I wasn't fully
adept on how to work the website because
it was a new thing and I only really learned
about it on the way into the studio so
I freestyled, I got caught out
luckily my scrotum
remained intact and it wasn't a disaster
but this week I'm fully armed
with what's been going on in where
I was from in 1986 and where i was from in 1986 right
and where you were from in 1986 oh cool would you like hartlepool or would you like a gospel
let's go with well let's do them both but let's go with gospel first okay cool so gospel first um
it's a photo of stubbington village square right it's a little village um near where i grew up
in 1986 which practically looks the same although there is a Budgins there where there is now a Costa
so
you can't stop the relentless progression
can you? You can still get Budgins though
True, there's a lovely picture of Hillhead Harbour
that someone's contributed
and there is a picture of some
farm workers working in a field
that is particularly well known for
its strawberries and
that is still there, you can still go back there in 2018 and pick strawberries.
Yeah, so not much has changed as expected.
Not even the clothes, to be honest, in Gosport.
Hartlepool Peak.
Now, this is where it gets pretty interesting
because last week you mentioned the very idea that,
and this is something quite interesting
because it links both you and I.
Right.
You mentioned HMS Warrior.
Yes.
Which was, I presume, rebuilt in Hartlepool?
It was reconditioned.
It was repainted, restructured, I think, in Hartlepool.
And it was like the big story.
I remember growing up in Hartlepool and it being a big deal.
Right.
Oh, my God.
Look at that gorgeous masthead.
Yeah.
Look at that.
Look at those beautiful, look at that beautiful deck
and you could go on
and walk around.
It was that
and the Wingfield Castle
as well.
And then they set it down
at Portsmouth,
a place I'd never been
or I thought,
I'm never going to know
anyone from Portsmouth.
Couldn't be further away,
couldn't be further away.
Were you thinking
it's the first
ironclad warship?
I was thinking
it was the first
ironclad warship.
Yeah, well,
you'd be right.
First thing that comes up
on the Doomsday Reloaded section
of the BBC website for Hartlepool in 1986,
HMS Warrior, the first ironclad warship,
being rebuilt at the coal dock in Hartlepool,
and once it is finished, it is planned to move it to Portsmouth.
Literally the last good thing Hartlepool was involved in.
Donaldson?
I think that's perfectly fair,
and anyone who lives in Hartlepool would agree.
Canoe Man?
The Tall Ships Race.
Does that go from there?
It was there
about four years ago,
I think.
We got a visit.
Got a beautiful marina.
Anyway, so,
interestingly enough,
the HMS Warwick
did end up in Portsmouth.
Now, I had no idea
that it came to Portsmouth
that late.
I thought it had just
always been there
because Portsmouth's got
a rich maritime history,
of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's interesting for me.
As does Hartlepool
big ship building town
and the other things
that are
my dad works in a shipyard
he used to do at school
and he ships all day
and he ships all day
yeah
ours was
my dad's a vanker
and he vanks all day
banker
wanker
anyway
one of the same elders
my dad is not a banker
but he is a wanker
but he frequently masturbates my dad is a legend banker. But he is a wanker.
But he frequently masturbates.
My dad is a legend.
He's a lovely chap.
Anyway, we've heard all about your dad.
So the other pictures available on the Doomsday Reloaded part of the website for Hartlepool, United Bus Station.
Is it still called the United Bus Station?
Is there a picture?
The United Bus...
Oh, no, that's not there anymore.
I wonder where that was.
Hartlepool's only bus station belongs to the United Bus... Oh, no, that's not there anymore. I wonder where that was. Hartlepool's only bus station belongs to the United Bus Company,
used by United, National Bus Company and Trimden Motor Services.
Trimden Motor Services.
Actually, that might have been up Old Hartlepool or something.
It might not even be...
I don't know why they're so proud about their bloody bus stops, though.
And the final one is York Road, Hartlepool.
Yeah.
The Hartlepool shopping area.
This is the main shopping street of the town.
It has small shops, takeaways, and building societies, etc.
It does building societies.
It's really, really dull, isn't it?
It really is.
I mean, because Portsmouth and Gosport's history...
That's where my dad works now, that building.
Oh, there we go, then.
He's a kind of admin support guy.
That's a pub.
That is a flat-root pub.
It's a pub, isn't it? It used to be a pub, then. Oh, yeah, did you? No, it's a pub. That is a flat route pub. It's a pub, isn't it?
It used to be a pub
then.
Oh yeah,
did you?
No,
it's Northern Rock.
So he works above
it in a solicitor's
firm.
Oh,
that old bus.
Look at that old
bus.
I remember those
buses.
Was your dad
responsible for
the Northern Rock
run on the bank?
No,
he mainly deals
in wills and
testaments.
Not testaments,
which is wills.
Just wills. He delivers wills to the court. The Oldaments, which is wills. Just wills.
He delivers wills to the court.
That's right, the Old Testament.
So what I would love is for people to go onto the Doomsday section of the website,
on the BBC website.
I think it's BBC website forward slash history,
forward slash Doomsday.
You can probably Google it.
I'm sure you can.
And find out what was going on in 1986 in your town.
And if it's of particular interest,
hello at lukeandpeachshow.com
and we'll maybe find
the best parts of it
because there's a load
of old crap on there
based on our towns
and see what we can
come up with
anyway
that's the
much needed conclusion
to the erroneous end
to the doomsday reloaded
part of last week's show
look
that's a very
underestimated
picture you just
showed me
I can't believe
that bus.
I sort of remember those buses from my youth,
but there's kind of like cream and purple,
kind of burgundy kind of coloured buses.
I've not seen one of those buses for some time
and I'd forgotten about them.
So that picture was actually quite emotionally important for me.
I feel like the buses we had in Gosport were green, maybe.
Incredible.
Incredible.
What colour are they in London?
No one knows.
Subject of much debate.
The trains from Hartlepool to Newcastle are little diesel jobs,
but they are converted buses.
The carriages are converted buses.
They certainly started out life in the 40s, I think. They converted a lot of buses. The carriages are converted buses or they certainly started out life in the 40s I think.
They converted
a lot of buses
to, they just
put them on
suspension, put
them on rails.
And they run
on tracks, yeah.
And they run
on tracks.
Incredible.
Incredible.
Isn't it
incredible?
You could make
Newcastle in
about half an
hour if they
weren't such
terrible trains.
It's dreadful.
I bet it's
about 50p,
is it?
No, it's
really expensive.
It's like
seven quid.
Crazy, crazy amount of money. Oh well, never mind. Before you 50p, is it, a journey? No, it's really expensive. It's like seven quid. Crazy, crazy amount of money.
Oh, well, never mind.
Before you move on, very quickly,
and this might be boring, but I'm going to gamble.
Gamble.
A huge part of the transport ecosystem where I grew up
is obviously between Gosport and Portsmouth is the ferry.
Yes.
The ferry in between, across the harbour,
because it's much easier. As they say
on the ferries themselves,
it's shorter by water. It's shorter
by water. Otherwise you have to drive all the way around
the harbour. Yeah. And that has
got ridiculously expensive. It used to be £1.40
when I left to move to London, and it's now
£3.80. Just to get across the harbour?
Yeah, it's like a five minute journey. That is ridiculous.
It's a monopoly, mate. The hovercraft
to ride is, I think, 20 quid?
It's a hovercraft, isn't it?
That's badass.
And it's to an actual island, which is a decent four or five miles away, I think.
No, probably less than that, three miles.
Badass.
But think of this quandary that I'm in, though, Pete.
If I'm still living in Gosport and I want to get the ferry to ride from Portsmouth,
I've got to go across the harbour.
Oh, so you've got to go...
It doesn't come from Gosport, it goes from Portsmouth. Uh-oh. Yeah. Well, don't live in Gosport and I want to get the ferry to ride from Portsmouth, I've got to go across the harbour. Oh. It doesn't come from Gosport,
it goes from Portsmouth.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
Well, don't live in Gosport.
Just try and develop
some basic appreciation
of the geography of my area.
That's all I'm saying.
Get yourself a little jet ski.
I should.
I should do.
Get it right across.
The sheer amount of people
who must have tried
to swim back across the harbour drunk
must be staggering.
It must be staggering.
I wouldn't be surprised
if on a Friday and Saturday night
there's a permanent coast guard
in there
yeah just sort of
go don't do that
someone always drowns
in the time every year
right
it's bloody freezing
I mean it was fairly
unequivocal when we had
people come to our school
and talk about that
and they would just
literally say
just don't do it
don't do it
because you will die
it's not like
oh you could be
seriously injured
you will be dead
it's almost like
Super Mario World
you're dead
you're dead
if you go in the water
you're dead
unless it's an underwater level.
Unless it's underwater level,
guys.
And to make it clear
that you don't get three lives.
There's only one.
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Shall we have a jingle
for, um,
for, uh,
what's it called,
uh,
Mankata?
All right,
then let's do that.
Let there be justice for all.
Let there be full volume.
Let there be peace
for all. And for all there's. Let there be peace for all.
It's one small step for man.
You don't understand.
Willie was a salesman.
Say simply, very simply, with hope, good morning.
Good morning.
As Nelson Mandela once famously said,
do not swim across Portsmouth Harbour.
Do not do that.
Somebody got in touch,
I think I spoke about the nuclear expert last week,
about the elephant's foot in Chernobyl.
It's the thing that just haunts my very dreams.
Terrifies me.
But apparently a couple of pictures were taken with robots.
Oh, okay, that makes sense.
Remote control robots.
Are you a robot if you're remote controlled? Probably not. Just remote control. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Remote control robots. Are you a robot
if you're remote controlled?
Probably not.
Just remote control
crime.
Are you okay?
Malfunction.
I've just realised
that because I didn't
scroll down enough
on my preparation
running order document here,
there's loads of stuff
we haven't covered
that we were supposed to,
so we're going to do it
next week.
Well, never mind.
We'll squeeze that in
next week.
That's fine.
Do you want to do it
for a car this week?
Yeah.
I've been doing a lot of talking today. Do you want me to do it? Because I'm, never mind. We'll squeeze that in next week. That's fine. Do you want to do a Mankata this week? Yeah. Because I've been doing a lot of talking today.
Do you want me to do it?
Because I'm such a great wordsmith.
Okay.
I don't know if the listeners will agree, but I'll do it.
No, definitely not.
Okay, Mankata.
This is quite an interesting one.
It comes from Paul.
It doesn't give his second name because Pete didn't include it when he sent it to me.
But that's okay.
Paul, you will know who you are.
You are almost certainly the only man called Paul who sent an email of this nature to us this week.
He starts off as all good emails should start off.
Hello, chaps.
Omni remotes in my TV remote.
Pretty standard stuff.
I don't know if I've seen an Omni remote.
I think I have yet.
Omni remote.
Okay.
Omnicom we've seen.
Oh.
Omni remote.
So maybe he meant Omnicom.
I don't know.
He says, anyway, after listening to you guys discuss some crazy statues
of the world
I thought I'd share
two statue related stories
from my time spent
in the former Yugoslavia
back in 2016
this is actually
only one story
because I cut one off
right
just space and time guys
I thought I'd share
one statue related story
from my time spent
in former Yugoslavia
back in 2016
Paul
Peter's decided
your second statue wasn't of interest.
No, they were all...
You can't have two statues.
Some of the emails he sends to me are very, very poor.
So the standard of your second statue must have been very, very low indeed.
Anyway, in the war-torn city of Mostar, Bosnia,
there are still a huge number of buildings that are essentially rubble.
While enjoying some food one day and looking out at the city's
historic bridge, the waiter told me to make
sure I go and see the Bruce Lee statue.
I half laughed it off, but
a few hours later, someone else mentioned it,
so I found myself in
Zrinski Park, looking at a statue
of Bruce Lee.
My favourite facts about this statue are as follows.
It is
four centimetres shorter than Bruce Lee himself.
Now, I don't think that's fair.
What's that about?
That's very strange, isn't it?
Yeah.
Four centimetres shorter.
It was unveiled one day before his 65th birthday,
the day on which a Bruce Lee statue in Hong Kong
was to be unveiled.
Chronological undercutting.
I mean, talk about undercutting it.
One day before, they're going to open one up
in Mostar.
Yeah, very, very odd.
And Croats have
complained, apparently, that the aggressive
stance is directed at them, as Bruce
is facing in the direction of areas heavily
populated with Croats, which tells
you something about the ethnic divisions that still
exist in the area. I've seen
multiple reasons given as to why Bruce Lee was
chosen. The most convincing is that he represents
ethnic diversity as a successful
American of Chinese descent, but the bizarre
nature of it still amuses me to this day.
All the best, Paul. Now, we love a statue
on this show. If you're going to put
a statue-related suggestion
into the Menkata, we're probably
invariably going to choose it
at some point. But this statue
I've seen in Mostar
is actually quite poor.
It's not great.
And I'll tell you partly why
it might not seem great is because
the one
in Hong Kong is amazing. If you look
at the one in Hong Kong, I don't know, I've not been
to Hong Kong, I don't know it well geographically at all,
but it's right
on the waterfront, on like a
boardwalk, and it's beautifully
bronze, and it's a very, very accurate likeness
of him in like full high kick pose.
Is it on the Kowloon side, or is it on the Hong Kong side?
I don't know, Pete, I don't know, I've not been there, but
it's amazing, so that might be why.
And I also did some further reading, because
either Paul didn't do any further reading, or Pete
cut it before he sent it to me.
But it's supposed to symbolise the fight against ethnic divisions, apparently.
Right, OK.
That was the reason given.
But he's aggressively attacking the...
The Croats, yeah.
If you find yourself on your travels, do seek out a statue.
We love a statue.
What's one of your famous
town statues? I always get annoyed about the fact
that the Hartlepool monkey myth,
they always have a chimpanzee
when it's depicted. Red Smythe,
the creator of Andy Capp,
is from Hartlepool. Is there a statue of him?
There's a statue of, not Red Smythe,
but a statue of Andy Capp.
Right. A wife beating drunk.
Right, yeah.
I don't know if there are any.
I think there might be one of an admiral of the fleet.
Because there's a Falklands Gardens in Gosport.
Right.
I think a lot of the soldiers and all the rest of it
who fought in the Falklands War sailed from there.
And so there's a memorial garden on the Gosport side
for the Falklands War.
And there's definitely a couple of memorials and a flower garden on the Gosport side for the Falklands War and there's definitely
a couple of memorials
and a flower garden
and all the rest of it
but there might be
a statue of the Admiral
at the time
or something like that
but beyond that
I don't know of anything
Nor Weston's kicking around
I don't think so
no
I don't actually know
where Simon Weston's from
so there you go
I want to say a big hello
to
should we smash out
some names to finish up
because they're always fun
aren't they?
The names...
Simon Weston was Welsh, by the way.
I'll just check for you.
All right.
You always got your fingers on the button.
There you go, mate.
The button of your keyboard.
I think when you're talking,
I'd rather just keep myself busy.
Chris is an American in Beijing.
This isn't going into Mencarta,
but it's just a couple of fun names.
I'm currently listening to episode 33,
where you read the email about English
names for kids in,
uh,
ESL classes.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Language.
Um,
uh,
no,
it's Teflon,
isn't it?
What are we talking about?
English,
basically English classes.
Uh,
I live in Beijing and taught English here for about a month before I realized
that it was a horrible job,
but I still have some friends that do it.
And there's some pretty great names,
uh,
that I experienced during my short time as a teacher.
Here are some
of my favourites
Dinosaur
a kid called
taking the name
Dinosaur
that's brilliant
and everyone else
would call him
Dinosaur
Captain America
brilliant
Optimus Prime
Monkey
Run Run
and my personal
favourite
Autism
where's he got
that from
where's he got
Autism from it's so endearing isn't it that's not endearing I can imagine Pete you would be And my personal favourite, autism. Where's he got that from? That's what I was about to say. Where's he got autism from?
It's so endearing, isn't it?
That's not endearing.
I can imagine, Pete, you would be in your element
in doing that teaching English as a foreign language
and giving out kids' names, English names.
You'd be in your element.
Hard work, wasn't it?
Teaching kids, good Lord.
Where's the other ones?
I had some more of these.
Oh, here we go.
James basically gives us a bit of information about Thai names.
Thai names are usually bestowed upon people by local monks, apparently,
and typically done so a little while after the child's birth.
And to fill the gap and to make the kid's name more palatable in everyday life,
every Thai child is given a nickname, usually by their parents.
Common nicknames range from one, for the firstborn, Nung in Thai,
and two is Song in Thai Moo, literally meaning pig
is a common name given to chubby kids
Pig
That's harsh
Sweet, yes, but this name sticks with them
through the rest of their lives
Imagine that
Other such common names are
Benz, after the car
a real sign of prestige and wealth
However, recent technological booms
have seen an upturn in the name iPhone and iPad.
A friend of mine called their kid tennis
because they like to play tennis.
The real Thai names are usually very long
and very tricky for us Westerners to pronounce.
However, I have had several kids
who have genuine Thai names,
Titty Porn and Kitty Porn.
This is quite good.
Porn is a suffix used
in Thai that means wealth.
Imagine that being your real name and your nickname being
Pig. Pond. Pig.
Just wow.
Fantastic. James,
that's box office, mate.
The two things that's reminding me of, one is that
do you know the punk artist
Gigi Allen? Yes. Horrendous
chap. He loved his heroin. Yeahrendous chap. He loved his heroin.
Yeah, he did.
Bloody loved his heroin, didn't he?
His father, who I believe was quite mentally unstable,
registered him as Jesus Christ Allen.
And it got shortened to Gigi Allen.
Because, I mean, you can't walk around with the name Jesus Christ.
And I'm fairly certain there was like a Thai boxer or a Thai kickboxer
whose name was Ratanopal Dutch Boy Jim.
Ratanopal Dutch Boy Jim?
Yeah.
Magnificent.
Yeah.
That's something
to be celebrated.
Jim as in G-Y-M.
Oh, right.
Dutch Boy Jim.
So I guess it was something
to do with him looking Dutch
and maybe being in the gym
all the time.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about it
but I remember that name.
It's always stuck with me.
I didn't realise
that Gigi Allen
was called Jesus Christ Allen.
Yeah.
Amazing.
There's a famous picture of him in his casket
isn't there
where people just
put heroin and stuff
on his body
yeah
I think that to change
that to anonymise
is great I think
because people just
come around
just being
horrible to it
do me a favour
don't ever do emails
outside the email section again
I'm so sorry
I'm the Gigi Allen
of email reading
you're so punk.
Right that's it.
That's it we're out of
stuff.
Yeah.
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