The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 48: Super, smashing, great
Episode Date: March 22, 2018Luke and Pete take time to pay their respects to Sir Ken Dodd, Jim Bowen and Stephen Hawking, all of whom sadly passed away recently. Once we've got that out of the way Pete, who is rapidly turning in...to Alex Jones' heir apparent, finds the time for another rant and we also get some emails on craft ale, the benefit to the economy of a large-scale sporting event, and the terrifying phenomenon of sleep paralysis.Before we chip off there's a Mencarta out of leftfield, so make sure to listen out for that, too.Offers of free lunches, invites to house parties and to give more Japanese lessons to Pete: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I got really paranoid then, Luke, that our mics weren't recording anything.
I was looking at the EQ, the meters, the sound meters,
and it wasn't going from down on our microphones.
And then I remembered, we weren't speaking.
Imagine just being frightened all the time of everything.
Just kind of like, because you're just not really paying attention.
And you can get tired after a hard week of toothing.
We talk about toothing on Monday.
Toothy Toother.
Oh, that was the funniest thing.
The lad's kind of username on this toothy thing was Toothy Toother.
Was it?
That was his nom de plume.
How are you doing, everyone?
It's Luke and Pete Shaw, episode 48.
We're back, baby, and we're ready to get started with some more bread, toothing.
Yeah, whatever comes up, really.
Whatever comes up, really.
I'm Pete Donaldson.
And I'm Luke Mert.
Luke, it's been straight in, no messing about.
Well, pleased you've done that because I would say something that approaches the egregious in what we missed on Monday
was that we sadly lost a few decently well-known...
Yeah, well, yeah, as per...
No, some well-known people passed away, unfortunately.
Holy moly, it was crazy, wasn't it?
It was.
Hawking, Bowen, Dodd.
Yeah.
Hawking, Bowen, Dodd.
Weirdly, the day before Ken Dodd died,
Ken Dodd died, Ken Dodd,
Dad's dog dead?
Wasn't that something? That's a joke, I think.
It's like a punchline to a joke.
Someone was talking to me about his puppet,
one of the Diddy men.
He's got his little puppet thing.
We were talking about that
and somebody texted me the name of the puppet
the day before he died.
So spooky.
So very spooky.
I think he was quite
a sort of challenging
weird comedian
back in the day.
I think people didn't
know what to make of him.
to make him revenue.
To find him.
Didn't he famously say
I should pay tax
because I live right
next to the sea or something?
Yeah, fantastic.
Lovely old job.
Sir Ken Dodd.
Sir Ken Dodd.
Stephen Hawking
didn't get knighted.
Did he not?
No.
That's mental.
I know.
Is it not wheelchair accessible, the old palace?
I don't think that's got anything to do with it.
I think if anything, you're more likely to get one.
You reckon?
Oh, all right.
I'm just saying.
Because a lot of it's to do with overcoming adversity and stuff like that,
and Hawking certainly did that.
Anyway.
Ken Dodd was almost chemically ugly.
Bit rich.
I agree, by the way.
It's funny because Stephen Hawking famously said,
my goal is simple.
It's a complete understanding of the universe,
why it is as it is and why it exists at all.
And Jim Bowen famously said, look what you could have won.
He once went, Jim Bowen, not Stephen Hawking,
let's make that very clear.
Jim Bowen once went on the breakfast show I was working on,
used the term gypo and we got an upheld Ofcom complaint
from the Gypsy Council of Great Britain,
who are actually very on things, as they should be.
Nobody should be using the word gypo in 2018,
and certainly not 10 years ago when the show went out.
But they're very on.
If you ever, if anyone ever uses the word pikey or gypo
or any of those terrible terms about terms about uh the gypsy um people
uh they're very on it oh i don't know how they're listening to so much stuff we talked about offcom
last week maybe this is of course we're playing a dangerous game here mate we're out of there we
we say whatever we want we can be foul men well that's lucky given what's gone on the last 40
odd episodes i know um speaking of um that type of thing i walked i'm not gonna name anyone involved
but i walked into a radio station to do some work not that long ago,
got a quick briefing saying, please be careful,
we're in the middle of an Ofcom situation,
because one of the pundits we had on last week made a joke about Rohypnol.
Oh, wow.
I mean, I'm presuming what radio station you're talking about.
I think there was another one, I think there was an off-call complaint,
but because somebody used said they had a Holocaust of a football match.
And at the same time,
another radio station.
I told you that.
I think I WhatsAppped you that.
Did a joke about,
about a joke about Anne Frank.
When you see kind of,
you know,
so-called comedic kind of.
These aren't borderline things.
No,
it's just like you need, like even people who've been of... These aren't borderline things, are they? No, it's just like you need...
Like, even people who've been working in the business
for, like, 20 years
can still find themselves in a situation
where they've gone a little bit too far
and they've done something they're obviously not proud of.
But seeing stuff written down,
seeing gags written down, it looks so much worse.
Because you get no idea of the tone of it.
No, exactly.
I mean, when Dr Fox Fox is up the old bill,
having his shit, kind of like 50-year-old shit 70s dad joke wank,
like read out, is punishment itself to me.
It's because it was pathetic.
A pathetic man trying to make sexy, bawdy jokes
and not doing them very well being utterly classless
but having them sort of written down and
read out in a court of law is
punishment enough for me. It's embarrassing.
He was found guilty
of all charges. Not guilty of all charges
wasn't he? Who, Dr Fox? Yeah. Not guilty
of all charges. Just to make that absolutely clear
Dr Fox was found not guilty
of all charges.
I was going to say something else to you as well
oh and when I was doing the research
around Jim Bowen who I remember vaguely
from being, was he in Phoenix Knights
briefly? He was in Phoenix Knights, I think he was in a couple
of TV shows because he's shorthand
for the 80s really isn't he? Right so he was in
So I'm quite good at one! Yeah and I remember him
obviously from Bullseye and
that became a culture thing
yeah of course but uh when
i when i was like looking into what he'd been up to apart from that i found quite an interesting
article about um about 10 years ago he um he embarked on this project where he resurrected
a 15 year old joke book right i mean i'm not presumably no one could tell the difference
but what happened was i think they found some sort of old Egyptian,
I think it was, or possibly Greek joke book.
Right.
I'm freestyling here because I can't fully remember.
And they found the jokes in there, worked them up to date,
and Jim Bowen did them as part of a stand-up tour.
That's quite interesting.
That's quite an interesting thing to do, isn't it?
That's quite good.
I don't really like stand-up comedy that much,
but I think that type of interesting angle
on it is of interest to me, I would say.
Yeah, he... Because it's the easiest thing
in the world for a guy of that age to go around the working
men's clubs doing that old stuff. I think he
did that as well. Yeah. I'm sure
he did, but at least he's doing it a little bit different.
Maybe I have a slightly less
rosy image of him because I used to work for Challenge
TV and I just write
about 80 links
about Bullseye
every week
and I was just
so fucking bored
how did you do it
without just doing
Jim Bowden
well he wasn't
allowed
you weren't allowed
to mention
because he doesn't
I think the TV show
Bullseye doesn't own
I think Super Smashing
Great and Look What
You Could Have Won
I think he owns those
that's mad
so Challenge TV
weren't allowed to use Super Smashing Great or the other one so you know Michael Buffer great and look what you could have won. I think he owns those. That's mad. So Challenge TV won't allow you Super Smash and Great
or the other one.
So you know Michael Buffer, the boxing ring announcer?
Yes.
He copyrighted the phrase, let's get ready to rumble.
It's a great line though, isn't it?
And he's made $400 million off it.
Now that's...
I'm being serious.
That's not a conservative estimate, is it?
I'm being serious because he licensed it to so much stuff.
Yeah.
Like computer games, video games, movies, everything.
He's made so much money off it.
If you ever saw, you know when Hulk Hogan went to the other wrestling...
WCW.
WCW, when he was Hollywood Hogan for a while.
That was due to the fact that Hulk Hogan,
every time Hulk Hogan gets used in a product,
some money goes to
Marvel it's incredible
Hulk where does oh
that's interesting so
if you want more
facts like that
wrestle me the podcast
what Pete where does
the Hogan in his name
come from he's not
called Hogan is he
oh I don't know
he's called Terry
Bollea isn't he
yeah yeah yeah
I don't know where
that came from
he's a he's a tragic
figure now because
obviously he was
because he got ousted
as a massive racist
because he he kind of he did that stuff and as a massive racist. Because he kind of...
Yeah, he did that stuff
and the WWE don't want anything to do with him
and he just seems to spend all his time
sat on lawn furniture on his...
He must be wealthy now.
On his little private beach in Florida
just sort of looking out to sea.
Florida's where all the crazy stuff happens in the US.
I know, Florida man.
Very famous.
Do you want to end this little section
by sparing a word and indeed a thought for the late, great Stephen Hawking, Pete?
Yeah, I mean, the thing about Stephen Hawking is
people who co-opt his legacy and co-opt his life and stuff.
What do you mean by that?
Well, it's people on Twitter who are like pop scientists,
pop physicists.
You don't like Brian Cox, do you?
And they all sort of
no I do
I like all those people
I think they're very talented
and I think
there is a place for people
who can explain
scientific works
very easily
you can't explain it
to a lay audience
you don't understand it
well enough
yeah exactly
and I understand nothing
it's just like
when he died
it's just everybody
rushed to Twitter
and gave their speech
like they're the
fucking president
I'd boil my piss a little bit
yeah I don't like that
that happens with
every dead person though
yeah
one thing that sort of
struck me
it's not Stephen Hawking's fault
no it's not
he seemed to be
a very
I quite like the stories
that are coming out
and it's annoying
that they've only come out
when he died
like how funny he was
no I think generally
people understood that
people like the cut
of his jib generally
the one thing I didn't like about all that. I mean, people like the cut of his jib generally.
The one thing I didn't like about all that stuff
you're mentioning there
is the fact that
loads of people
just instantly claim
to be on, you know,
really intimate terms
with all this literature.
It's like,
listen,
we all bought a brief
history of time.
None of us could get through it.
We couldn't read it.
None of us understood it.
That's fine.
Don't pretend you did.
No, exactly.
Actually, the best...
I love dickheads on Twitter,
usually men,
kind of sort of giving a contrary view.
Well, you know, he was...
He understood kind of the potential of the universe,
but he didn't understand the actual science behind it.
He was Professor Stephen Hawking, mate.
Grow up.
I love a mansplainer apparently
the only reason
he didn't win
a Nobel Prize
is because
as far as I understand
his most well known
work that would have
been eligible for it
it's never actually
been confirmed
or actually viewed
or cited
it's to do with
mini black holes
and he famously said
in a couple of his lectures
that it's a shame that these have never been found because if they were um please someone go out and
find them because it means i'll get a nobel prize and they never were unfortunately so he never
actually won the nobel prize i mean it's one of those things where um the nobel prize is so
difficult to get there's very few kind of like if you work in like a pr or marketing you get an
award every second week if you work in football you're gonna you get an award every second week. If you work in football,
you're going to stumble upon a championship title
at some point,
or a championship promotion trophy,
or an FA Cup.
But with stuff like that,
there's only a couple given out every year.
It's about as difficult as it is to get as a prize.
When I said to you before,
I think I've said to you once or twice,
I understand the benefit of awards, that I don't, I mean,
I understand the benefit of awards and that kind
of stuff, and I understand some of them are worth more
than others, but again, it's that
whole thing about there's just too many of them, and a lot of them are just
founded by the industry anyway.
If I was up for a Nobel Prize, I think
I'd be more enthusiastic about it.
The only reason I know about this
is because of Good Will Hunting, really,
but there's that mathematics medal
the Fields Medal
which they only give that out
once to one person
every five years
isn't that incredible
yeah
it's cool isn't it
I mean that is the rarest of the rare
we've got an email here
from Stephen Hawking anyway
saying Pete
why didn't you read my book
I know you bought it
but shall we do emails
not enough pictures
not enough pictures
yeah we'll take a
we'll take a shot
at Sojourn
and we'll be back with some emails.
I'm very, very good.
I like that guy.
Yeah, who is it?
Is it a guy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is it a guy?
Have you heard his voice?
I couldn't tell if it was like a sort of deep-voiced woman.
Deep-voiced woman, and I don't care.
Did you bash your thing on the table?
Shall I do an email first? Yeah, so do you.. Did you bash your thing on the table? Should I do an email
first?
Yeah, so do you
want?
Do you want?
What do you want?
Just trying to look.
I've got one about
vomiting.
I'm not sure if it's
appropriate really.
It's always appropriate.
Come on now.
It's what I live for.
All right, I'll do it.
Vomiting, pooping.
Okay, this is another
anonymous email and
it will become clear
why it's anonymous.
This is definitely a bloke emailing.
He says,
Dear Luke and Pete,
on the subject of inappropriate vomiting.
Did we talk about that a couple of weeks ago?
Did we ever talk about appropriate vomiting?
No, we talked about the idea of being able to stop one's self-vomiting,
didn't we?
So I guess that's what he means.
He says,
A tale from a couple of years ago
still occasionally wakes me up in a cold sweat
during the middle of the night.
I was working for a church, and you shouldn't be doing all this stuff from a couple of years ago still occasionally wakes me up in a cold sweat during the middle of the night. I was working for a church.
And you shouldn't be doing all this stuff in a house of God.
That's the first point.
And part of the deal was I lived in a church house without paying rent.
And I was in the master bedroom, which had a lovely new cream carpet.
The house was maintained by a woman who, quite frankly, scared the crap out of me.
Why is it that some aspects
of churches are quite scary?
Oh, spooky as hell.
Whoever, like,
if you meet someone
who works in a church,
you're like...
Not only that,
the angle I was sort of
going down was almost
that if you were wandering
through the countryside
of some country or whatever,
you didn't know anything
and you needed somewhere
to stay,
presumably a church is the place you should be going
because it's sanctuary, right?
Almost quite literally.
But I think I'd be quite scared sleeping in a church on my own at night.
Wouldn't you?
In a big old sort of church.
Big old church.
Big old church.
Sat on a pew, having a little light.
Take a pew.
Take a pew.
Take a pew.
He said, I woke up suddenly in the middle of the night
with a stomachache.
Mistake number one was thinking it would pass,
and so I stayed in bed.
It didn't pass.
Moments later, I was vomiting a vivid orange bolognese vomit
all over the cream carpet next to my bed.
If you're eating your porridge on the way to work,
listen to this.
I apologise.
He says, mistake number two is I went back to sleep.
I woke up the next morning still feeling grim
to the smell of putrid sick right next to me.
Coincidentally, that day was also the day
my then newish girlfriend and now fiancé
was travelling the three hours or so
to stay with me and the family for a few days.
Missing that was non-negotiable.
Mistake number three,
I left the sick on the cream carpet
and didn't return for four days.
Now, I'm sorry.
Oh, no.
I'm sorry.
No.
You deserve everything you get for this.
Hugely. You've got to take responsibility.
It's like
the getting drunk and the hangover thing.
The hangover is, appropriately enough,
God's way of saying
you got drunk last night, you had your fun, now you're getting punished.
It's a yin and yang thing.
The balance of the universe must remain.
If you're going to be sick because you couldn't be asked to get out of bed,
you've got to clean it up.
Always take a paramol.
I don't even know what that is.
It's codeine and paracetamol.
You shouldn't take too much codeine, actually,
but it's excellent for hangovers.
Again, it's time for the weekly announcement
that Pete is not a medical professional.
No.
He says, I arrive home post-weekend and my housemate asks me
whether I can smell something funny coming from my room.
I walked into my room and I immediately gagged
because the vomit had not gone anywhere.
It's not going to go anywhere, is it?
No, it's not going to evaporate.
Oh, the sick fairy's going to clean it up.
It soaked into the carpet, leaving a huge orangey-brown stain
and it stank quite bad.
Two years and several dozen bottles of carpet cleaner later,
the smell had finally gone
and only a small remnant of the stain remained.
I moved out of the house last summer
and so far no one has been in touch
about a slightly brown patch on the carpet.
All the best, Anonymous.
And this is the best bit of the email.
P.S. Please don't read my name out.
I really am terrified of this woman.
And yet you vombed on her carpet
and left it for four days.
That P.S.
Disgusting.
The very idea that this woman's going to be listening to our show is stupid.
But the P.S. almost made me read the name out.
But I won't.
I think someone in the church is kind of,
somebody who works in a church is kind of probably a bit ethereal.
She could probably figure out, could probably know everything, I suppose.
And then presumably instantly forgive him.
Yeah, exactly.
Forgive me, woman.
But yeah, I mean, that is horrible, isn't it?
Kind of just leaving it for four days.
It's one of the best,
I know people who are much more versed in comedy
than me will have
their own opinions
on the man
but one of the best
Peter Kay lines
is that
I spent ages praying
for God to give me
a new bike
then I realised
it wasn't happening
so I stole one
and asked for forgiveness
that's nice
hello to
Sam Westover
Sam Westover
this is a craft deal
rant
oh yeah
certainly a reference to is a craft beer rant. Oh, yeah. Or certainly a reference
to my craft beer rant.
There is now officially
glitter craft beer.
What's the point of it?
As a craft beer drinker,
I can't imagine
waking up in the morning
going for a poo
and waking up with glitter in it.
I imagine the craft beer connoisseurs
will start comparing
the glitter digestion ability
and the level of hop in the
glitter. Please find video evidence
below. Have you watched the video?
I've not watched the video.
You'd be raging. I presume
it's a video of a craft ale
that's got glitter in it.
Glitter apparently is incredibly
bad for the environment. I can imagine.
Microbeads all over again.
Microbeads, yeah.
Terrible.
Apparently they keep finding, not unsafe amounts because it is pretty safe,
but a surprising amount of plastic in bottled water.
Yeah, I heard that on the Radio 4 Today programme this morning,
saying that there's enough for it to be noteworthy but not to be unsafe.
I'll say what I said time and time again,
get yourself a reusable water bottle.
Get yourself a reusable water bottle.
Something you always take the mickey out of me for.
Well, the problem is you screw the top in
every time you kind of stop drinking.
It's weird.
What's wrong with that?
Well, just place it on top.
You're always going to open the bottle again.
You sort of really diligently close it up.
It's just weird.
I like that you get
annoyed by that
because it's quite
a weird thing to be
annoyed by
you prefer me to drink it
and just leave the top resting
yeah
but what happens
if I knock it over
what happens if you
knock anything over
what happens if you
knock a cup of tea over
it's madness man
well this cup of tea
has got a lid on it
madness
I don't need a sippy cup
not to tip something over
you are very clumsy
to be fair
no I'm not
comparatively
you get away you get
away with not being sort of seen as clumsy because you work with jim every day that's why exactly
yeah he is the clumsy like he is almost psychotically clumsy it's it's weird do you want
um do you want an email from cameron about um great uh hartley bill b Cameron's the reason
the reason Cameron's email is getting read out is because he genuinely attached a copy of his
PhD thesis to the email
expecting us to read it
brilliant
he says hello chaps
late comer to the show
so I'm only getting
to the 2018 episodes now
I've learnt so many
cool things about humanity
half of those things
might well be untrue
and a man who eats bread
he's wiped in a toilet seat
and you've got a PhD Cameron
so I wouldn't be taking
our word for it
anyway in episode 38 he says you two were talking about the abandoned fairground with a ride
called nightmare or something similar the conversation moved towards other abandoned
structures like the pool with the desks stacked in it pete which you talked about obsessed and
eventually led to pete's claim that hosting an event like the olympics is empirically bad for
the host nation financially i'm here to tell you that's not necessarily true.
What?
In the final semester of my undergraduate economics career,
I was able to combine my love of football
and my path of study to form my senior thesis
where I analysed the feasibility of hosting a mega sporting event
such as the World Cup or more pertinent to your conversation,
the Olympics.
I hope the mega sporting event was listed in the PhD.
Mega-sporting event.
Speaking of that, I think reading that there,
it's not a PhD, it's just a degree.
But anyway, probably still more qualified than you or I
because you didn't graduate from your university
because you had overdue library books
and my university wasn't worth a thing.
I won't bore you with all the details, says Cameron,
just some key points.
If you look back to every Olympics or World Cup host
in the past 30 years,
there is undoubtedly a strong economic boom for that nation
during the event itself,
but only 50% of those nations experience
larger-than-normal positive economic growth
over the next 10 years after the event.
So, if it's uncertain whether or not your nation
will financially benefit from hosting in the long run,
why do so many keep bidding for the opportunity?
The short answer would be that every bidding nation
thinks they can break the slightly negative trend
by taking advantage of the massive increase
in international visibility that comes with hosting.
A great example of this would be South Africa,
who hosted the World Cup in 2010.
In the years since that fantastic event, tourism has exploded in South Africa,
and more generally, there are more people educated about the nation and its history,
which can only be a good thing.
To summarise even more succinctly, there's only a 50-50 chance your nation will benefit from hosting a mega sporting event,
but that ratio is far more favourable for smaller nations who want to be put on the map.
Attached to the full thesis for no other reason
than to show you I'm not completely making everything up.
Keep up the good work, Cameron.
Again, Cameron, I may well read your thesis at some point.
It's unlikely.
I've only thumbed through it for now.
I'm sure you understand.
But I think we've both got to the stage in our life now, Pete,
where we're happy to take people's words for it, aren't we?
Oh, goddammit.
I mean, if you don't even want to bother emailing in,
just draw a picture
of what you're
trying to fucking say
and I'll read it out
we busted the
yawning myth last week
last show
so we don't need to do
another myth busting
show today
I think
weren't we referencing
the fact that
stadiums are expensive
and the area around
the stadiums
isn't always
it's written about
fairly extensively
by I think
the guys in
Freakonomics
or it's
Why England Lose
by Simon Cooper
and it's one of those
two books
it might even be
Why England Lose
which has now been
re-updated
to be called
Soccernomics I think
which is a terrible title
yeah but it's
it talks about it in there
it talks about it in there
because I think
a lot of the time
I think it's
particularly in the US
they'll PR it by saying we want to build a new stadium because it will create loads of the time particularly in the US they'll PR it
by saying
we want to build
a new stadium
because it will create
loads of jobs
be great for the local economy
and he was drilling down
into the numbers
and saying that's not
necessarily true
and I think our anger
was more of a
look at all these
abandoned Olympic villages
type thing
but I think London
wasn't too bad
I think London 2012
Olympics has been given
a lot of criticism
for the lack of a legacy in terms of kids
participating in sport. Right.
But I think things like the Olympic Village, which is
now, which has turned into affordable housing,
and the miraculously
smooth and successful
transition of the Olympic Stadium to a
football venue,
has been okay.
Was it affordable housing?
Because, I mean, this is London, after all.
Well, look, affordable housing,
I don't know what the definition for affordable housing is technically.
It's something ridiculous, but that's what they called it.
There's a difference between affordable housing
and also sustainable kind of social housing.
My background is very much working for a government housing quango
and helping people move out of London to housing stock
that's kind of underutilised.
And my take on it is that no new houses for social,
you know, people who are on council benefit
are being made anymore, and it's disgraceful.
How long ago is it since you did that?
Endlessly disgraceful.
It's still going on, if not even worse.
No, but how long have you been working on it?
Oh, well, I was working for five years, six how long have you been working on it? Oh, well,
I was working for five years,
six years.
But you've been doing this for...
Yeah, I know.
I'm just saying,
that's my background,
though, isn't it?
You're out of the loop.
Well, if nothing else,
the problems have got
even harder to deal with
in social housing
and certainly
the London boroughs anyway.
Disgraceful.
All down to Thatcher's
right-to-buy plan
where people could buy
their own council houses
because that fucking Tory ideal of owning your own house,
which took so much stock out of the social housing concern,
now that we don't have any council houses,
people are just living on top of each other.
A national disgrace.
Why don't you do some more chat about sexy stuff?
Sexy stuff?
Yeah.
All right, then.
I don't know whether this is sexy.
No, but I mean,
you always like talking about sex or sort of bodily fluids.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's what we're all about,
isn't it, mate?
I'm just trying to help you stay on brand.
That's what we're all about.
Hello to...
Actually, can you fill for 10 seconds?
Yeah, sure.
No worries.
Yeah, all right.
So, I mean,
the Craftdale thing we went back to
about the glitter,
presumably you're just not having that.
Yeah, no, I'm not having that.
The Olympic legacy type stuff has caused you to go on a massive rant
about housing.
Is that enough time?
That is enough time.
That is enough time.
It's quite meta when we do that.
What I should say, rather, I should feel like an actual professional
and say, if you do want to get in touch,
email us at hello at lukeandpeach.com
and you too can be a part of this daring do you too i'd love them to get
involved to be quite a minute probably we could have the edge in that we've only got two spare
chairs at the moment probably oh we've got one in the corners we've got three we could have the
edge and bono you'd probably pick them yeah and you'd have um adam clayton over there and and the
drummer outside he's the dull one isn't he he, Clayton? He doesn't really do much, does he?
Are they your mum's cataract glasses?
Hello to George Wicks, George Boy!
Hi guys, based on several experiences I've had in my short 26 years,
the most recent being a week ago,
I thought I'd ask whether you guys and the listeners had also survived the terrifying horror show that is Sleep Paralysis.
Yeah, good, this is rich subject material.
Oh, it's horrible.
Sleep Paralysis is essentially being conscious during REM sleep
when the brain is still active.
An episode lasting only a couple of minutes will render one
completely unable to move or talk.
The feeling of intense pressure on the chest and can involve,
on occasion, sinister hallucinations.
Throughout history, it was believed to be the work of demons
that would sit on the chest on unsuspecting sleepers,
sometimes to engage in sexual activity with them.
Shots would be a fine thing.
Several different cultures have their own theories,
from evil genies to witches and ghosts.
It's also been used to explain supernatural phenomena
such as alien abduction and demonic possession.
More recently, and probably more reliable scientific research suggests
it can actually be caused of a lack of sleep, jet lag,
and even just sleeping on your back. I know
that sleep paralysis is harmless, but
this is of little comfort when the shadow in the corner
of my room consistently takes the form of a tall
featureless figure with a wide
brimmed hat. Sleep well
gents. It could just be your dad
that. Could be the undertaker.
The worst thing about George Wicks'
email, and I think we should tackle some of the
subjects within it
because it is interesting
is that the font
he used to email in
is an absolute disgrace.
If you're going to
bombard people
with a size 72 font
I thought you just
printed it out wrong.
No.
Wow.
You deserve everything you get
in terms of night terrors
in my opinion.
Sorry about your
sleep paralysis.
It's a horrible thing.
George,
George,
think of it
from our point of view.
We have to read through hundreds of emails.
I've got three emails on my email while doing the show today.
We have to read through them all.
Do them in the right font.
Do them in the font.
You're ranting about housing.
I'm ranting about font sizes.
This part of the email, Pete, where George talks about the idea
to explain supernatural phenomena such as
alien abduction
to me that sounds
absolutely right
don't you reckon
that's got to be the
explanation for this
perceived idea
oh god yeah
anything like that
anything
it's always
something to do with that
isn't it
and I often thought
this idea of
demonic possession
which you would associate
with sort of
Victorian times really
speaking in tongues and stuff
yeah and medieval
that's presumably
some sort of
that's a sort of hangover from the era when we didn't have any understanding of mental
illness basically right uh yes yeah i mean yeah would you agree with that i would say that's um
very much part of it have you ever had a night terror uh no i'll occasionally jump up at the
start but that's uh everyone does that that's an evolutionary thing isn't it yeah i'd say this week
i've just i've been dreaming about editing podcasts have you really it's terrible isn't it
absolutely dreadful um the worst the worst um sort of type of nightmare or dream i tend to have is
is the dream where you've dreamed that you haven't had any sleep right yeah you've been sleeping the
whole time yeah it's weird it's really odd i mean the dj anxiety anxiety dream is very popular for
me you sort of get in
and none of the buttons work
and I can't talk
and stuff like that.
I mean, it's not dissimilar
to what actually happens
when I go into a radio studio.
Is that seriously
like an anxiety dream
that you will have
as a radio presenter?
All the time.
You ask anybody
who's ever DJed,
that will be the number one
dream they get.
It's just like you'll go in
and the computers aren't working
and you try and speak
and you mess it up
and the manager's there
and all that stuff.
Could you feel,
how long could you feel
on a radio show?
Oh, about 10 seconds.
Really?
About 10 seconds.
I'm dreadful
at that kind of thing.
I start sentences
in the middle.
Anyone listening to this
nonsense will understand,
but like...
We do the best
under these circumstances,
don't we?
I've usually...
You kind of get me
out of a lot of holes.
Yeah.
But never mind.
Because you couldn't just do like a proper
radio,
American radio shock jock hour
of just chat.
No.
If I had someone with me,
definitely.
I reckon,
you know,
if we did one,
maybe,
I reckon we'd probably pile through,
but,
yeah.
But it's just a case of imagining
the responses,
isn't it?
Imagining what the other person
who's not there is going to say,
and then you're away.
And then some people will say,
Peter, put your trousers on.
And I go, no, I'm not wearing my trousers.
And here's why I'm not wearing trousers.
I like letting my legs out.
Can we do a quick mankata before we leave?
I would absolutely bloody love you to do that.
I need to find the bloody production.
There we go.
Let there be justice for all.
Let there be peace for all. Let there be peace for all.
It's one small step for man.
You don't understand.
Willie was a salesman.
Say simply, very simply, with hope, good morning.
Yeah!
I tried to stop that and I was like,
I'm going to defeat that man who got upset about my Mankata jingle
I think it's become part of the furniture
I think it's fine
yeah I think people
find it endearing
and on that Mankata jingle
which is the jingle
that keeps on giving
and once again
we genuinely do not have the rights to it
so hopefully no one notices
our good friends at Microsoft
but the little tenor sax
that comes in
I've only just started noticing that.
Yeah, it's nice.
It's nice.
Lovely old job.
Silly string.
I want to talk about silly string, Luke Moore.
Nice.
I wasn't expecting to say that.
A big...
Something that occasionally punctuated my childhood.
I know, yeah.
I do like a bit of silly string.
It's weird that our parents...
It's kind of cold and wet. Yeah, but it's weird that our parents... It's kind of cold and wet.
Yeah, but it's weird that our parents let us just spray it around the house.
I'd go mad if someone did that in my house now.
Apparently, right, I've been reading that silly string
and similar kind of silly string-style products
have been used by the American and British military forces
to detect tripwires.
That's good.
Isn't that incredible?
Because the string's
sprayed over the suspected area
and if the string falls
to the ground,
no tripwires are present
since the string would
catch on the tripwires.
But if it is,
obviously it'll hang in the air
where the tripwires are.
But it's not heavy enough
to kind of actually set off
the tripwire itself.
Very good.
Isn't that good?
So it's almost like
the equivalent of when you see
in Mission Impossible
they spray the mist to see the red lasers. To see that good? So it's almost like the equivalent of when you see in Mission Impossible they spray the mist
to see the red lasers.
You get to see the red lasers, yeah.
But this is very much...
Why did you read this?
Wikipedia.
That's wicked.
Military use of silly string.
As of 2006,
obviously a little while ago now,
but it was being used
by US troops in Iraq
for this purpose.
To detect tripwires.
But you're going to give away
your position.
Sprint, silly street. Bright pink.
That's not a silly street, that's a party popper, Dave, stop it.
Have you got any
of that in
camo flower?
Because we are leaving a pink trail
wherever we go. Well, because the
material is an aerosol, it can't be
shipped privately to Iraq,
and so it's not provided by any official channels.
So 80,000 cans
were stockpiled in New Jersey
unintentionally. So that's pretty good, isn't it?
There's a big New Jersey
based silly string
mountain, which I quite enjoy.
When was the last time you fired off some silly string?
I don't know. It's been a while, actually.
I've not got involved in that kind of caper for a little while.
I can't really remember why we used to have it. Did you just get it from a joke shop or something? Yeah, I think so a while, actually. Yeah, I've not got involved in that kind of care for a little while. I can't really remember why we used to have it.
Did you just get it from a joke shop or something?
Yeah, I think so.
All that stuff.
A lot of compressed air in joke shops.
There was a brilliant shop in Portsmouth.
I'm not sure if it's still there.
It probably isn't, sadly, called You Need Us.
And it was such a good joke shop.
It's like a Manic Street Preacher.
Yeah, you love us.
I don't know why it was called that.
But it was such a good joke shop.
You need us!
And I was such a nerd that me and my pals
used to go there
like specially
and it was about
a 20 minute drive away
yeah but I mean
joke shops are just
fun for kids
like you know
I was about 17 or 18
pepper flavoured sweets
snapping gum
snapping gum
was one of my favourites
but the problem is
like they would always
have like off brand
kind of gum
designs on the side.
No one would ever fall for it.
Stupid, really.
I used to love a whoopee cushion, love a Bronx chair.
Love that classic
design of
someone sitting down.
Half-drawn, kind of like a 1920s
comic strip.
It's so badly done.
It's so old school. It's kind of like done with ink and pen
and it's kind of like,
you know,
when sat upon,
this cushion will
deliver a genuine
Bronx cheer.
And the dog
in the background
is going,
poop,
and he's kind of
fainting because of the smell.
Have you ever heard
the phrase Bronx cheer
outside of that?
No.
No, I never have either.
It's like box social.
No one does it anymore.
What's that?
It's like a,
is it a dance or something? It's like an old New York-y kind of name. It's like box social. No one does it anymore. What's that? It's like a... Is it a dance or something?
It's like an old New York-y kind of name.
The Harlem Shake?
Yeah.
Ha!
Ha!
Harlem Shake.
So is that your favourite aspect of the joke shop,
the whoopee cushion?
The whoopee cushion.
I can't believe it's taken us 48 episodes
to start talking about joke shops.
Yeah, joke shops.
Itching powder.
Yeah.
I mean, that's just got to be asbestos, isn't it?
You look at it, it's just like filaments, isn't it?
Let's talk about the undoubted crown prince,
the emperor of joke shop products, the stink bomb.
The stink bomb.
A lad used to set them off in Asda quite a lot, in Hartlepool.
They'd just smash it.
And Asda would always fucking stink.
Yeah.
Because obviously you set it off and you just leave,
and no one knows who's done it.
We used to,
there was a pub,
it's not there anymore,
near where I grew up,
where we used to
just let everything off in there.
We used to let off
those paintballing smoke grenades
in the toilet.
Jesus Christ.
And stink bombs, yeah.
You're a disaster.
Stink bombs are bad
because they stick around for ages.
Yeah.
It's awful.
It's like being sick on a cream carpet
and just leave carpet for four days
I know
they were like little
test tubes weren't they
with a yellow liquid in them
yeah
those are terrible
I'll tell you what
it's just sulphur isn't it
I wonder if kids
still do that now
just do stuff like that
it's probably
now because of
getting Asbo
Asbo's didn't exist
when we were kids
we could get away with
whatever we fancied
you still got an ankle brace
didn't you
that was for stalking
though to be fair.
Yeah, that was, yeah.
All right, let's get out of here.
All right, darling.
Well, we'll see you next week
if you want to get to the show.
As always, it's...
Hello?
I'm not helping you out.
Hello at lukenpeachshow.com.
That's right.
It's as simple and as unalloyed
as that, to be quite frank.
Goodness me.
Goodness me.
The Pete Donaldson goodness me
is the finest catchphrase
in sports entertainment.
Goodness me. It Pete Donaldson goodness me is the finest catchphrase in sports entertainment. Goodness me.
It's
been.
It's been.