The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 53: Singing the Peterhouse blues

Episode Date: April 9, 2018

Pete's been hobnobbing with yet another celebrity, and then rants and raves about why he thinks he didn't get into Cambridge university (clue: it's not to do with his lack of intelligence); he really is becoming quite obnoxious.A tale of weird coincidence punctuates the It's Been section, and we firmly establish that Barenaked Ladies aren't American, courtesy of a lot of rather angry Canadians.Pilot Neil makes a comeback and is the subject of an angry challenge by another listener. This one could run and run, hopefully not off the runway entirely...If you have an interesting job, a good story to tell or just want to be a part of this, email us! [e-mail]*Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!* Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

🎵 Hello! It's the Luke and Pete Shaw episode, I'm looking behind me, 53! 53, hey? 53 years young. We can now legally do everything. That man finishing a snack is Pete Donaldson. I wasn't finishing a snack. I finished a snack ages ago.

What was it? It was a... You haven't finished it. You just dropped it on the floor. Well, I'm a vegan paleo. Good source of phosphorus. Yeah. Do we need phosphorus?

Not sure. I mean... Is that a thing you used to light in science experiments at school? a vegan paleo good source of phosphorus yeah do we need phosphorus not sure I mean is that a thing you used to like in science experiments at school yeah a good source of phosphorus magnesium

definitely lit some magnesium ribbon in my eye oh that's what I'm thinking of yeah and thiamine as well those don't sound good I mean magnesium alright but like

yeah people tell you it's like a calcium thing we were talking about early on like we get told that kids need loads of calcium do they yeah worst case scenario here pete you um get yourself another comedy ailment which is all grist for the mill on this show um best case scenario it makes you

healthier and you're around for longer should i try and get scurvy for a laugh no i wouldn't recommend that i remember um there was a lad in I got some pretty decent exam results at A-Level. I wasn't predicted that amount of decent exam results. I got A, B, C, History, English and Computing. That's very good. I did English and Computing at A-Level. Didn't you muff up Computing even worse than I did? I got a U.

I muffed it up and I got a C. I got a D in English as well. Oof. Yeah. You won't play by the rules, that's why. No. But I remember going to visit my friend in Peterhouse in Cambridge and because I was a little scrawled,

I was never offered the opportunity to tour the grounds as a precursor to a possible admission to Cambridge University. One of our finest

educational establishments. One of our finest red brick establishments. Yeah. And so I was never allowed to sort of, you know, even attain a notion that I was going to be going to Cambridge. So I went elsewhere.

But I met so many people with my exam results in Peterhouse. Did you? Yeah, including one lad who'd taken his lawn. We were the first year that lawns came in, which is great. Took his first year lawn and stuck it on a really expensive hi-fi and then got one of the last recorded cases of scurvy in the UK

I wondered where this was going because he just ate bread all the time didn't eat any fruit scurvy was that for a lack of vitamins I believe so yes you can't just subsist on bread alone you've got to have some fruities

you're not getting into Cambridge with ABC though are you people are doing that are they no my point was that they had the exact same no that's point was that they had the exact same no that's what you said they were the exact same

oh yeah you can get in yeah you can get in with you know 3B's can't you I thought it would just be 3As or don't even bother applying nah

not the case oh well maybe these people came from Eton maybe these people came from decent schools but I remember being a bit put out by the whole experience are you from Eton

yeah I've just eaten no no but I've got full of phosphorus mate that in a way is put out by the whole experience. Are you from Eton? Yeah, I'm just Eton. No, no. I've got full of phosphorus, mate. That, in a way, is a very good example of why the class system is so difficult for people to overcome in this country, Pete. I don't think you should have gone to Cambridge anyway, but I do understand the point.

I might be able to ride a bike. That's true. I haven't ridden a bike in a long time. Have a nice scarf. Have a nice scarf. Know which fork to use in a posh restaurant. You could have said a touching, had a touching tribute to Stephen Hawking when he sadly passed away.

As a man who was educated at the same establishment as Mr Stephen Hawking. I remember going round a friend's little room in Peterhouse. Oh, that was Peterhouse. It was a different college in Cambridge.

Do you realise it's called Peterhouse? I mean, you could go there. I got excited. I got excited. And is that the... I think it might be the Gay College, Peterhouse.

Or primary... I don't know why Gays would suddenly find themselves in a particular college, but I don't know. Either way, I remember sort of

spying on my friend and he was having a little cheese afternoon with his friends. A little bit of cheese. Boy from article having a bit of cheese with his friends. A bit of pop, a bit of cheese. What were you doing at that time? What was the equivalent in De Montfort?

Sarah Lee cheesecake from a bar. Yeah. I've got cheese in it, so. Very similar down in Farnborough College of Technology where I went. But there you have it. So last couple of weeks, last week really,

you were famously confused by the Easter story. Yeah, not my finest hour. Which made me laugh a lot that day. Not my finest hour, yeah. I got social media Sam to do a piece on that for the Twitter.

Oh, good. At Luke and Pete Show if you want to catch up with that. We're all still getting over Botflygate. Yeah. Aren't we? Things going in and going with that. We're all still getting over Botflygate. Yeah. Things going in and going out. And I think the worst thing about Botfly's going in and going out,

or like Blackheads or anything that goes in and out, with a very precise haul, there's something very horrible about it. The thing I took away from it, Pete, and it was unexpected, I had some baked beans for dinner about three or four days ago. And because in the email, the emailer, Botfly Ben, whatever his name was. Kept saying they were as big as the baked beans. Yeah, it really affected me. I still ate all the baked beans.

I like that you lined them up and gave them the inquisition. You were Botfly. I had to stab them with a fork to make sure. I had to smear them all with Vaseline to suffocate any would-be Bot fly. I had to stab them with a fork to make sure. I had to smear them with Vaseline to suffocate any would-be bot flies before I could eat them.

That's what you put on your food anyway. Yeah. You met Brian Cranston last week as well. Did you? Emily Blunt this morning. Did you really?

She was a little late. Well, tell us about that. She's nice. She's the wife of John Krasinski. Who is in the American office? Yeah, Tim.

It's not Tim.'s not Tim it's called what is he called Jim Barry that's a big leap isn't it stop talking about Barry's yeah so

yeah she was lovely we talked about the film A Quiet Place which I think I mentioned last week was very good and then finally just to finish off the round up from last week

to give people the familiarity of listening someone got confused by the word Chilean, thinking it meant a numerical amount like million or billion, which is very entertaining. Have you got an It's Been this week? Because I've got

a couple. I'll probably just do one. One of mine's quite good. Yeah, okay. Do you want to do an It's Been? I'll do an It's Been, and it's particularly present this time. Oh, yes. Well, it's pretty suitable anyway. Would you want to put that to bed now? Yeah, alright then. Let's do three of those. It's been and it's been particularly present this time uh oh yes it's pretty suitable anyway would you want to put that to bed now yeah all right then let's do three of those yes ben um bare naked that wasn't that was okay bare naked ladies are canadian not american thank you to everyone who emailed in all pete said was this is how precise you've got to be on this show

pete said that american bands work really hard of course referring to bare naked ladies who are canadian uh but i think what's happened here pete i don't know if you agree but what i suspect has happened is um canadians have this similar complex that new zealanders have where they don't like things being mistaken for in their case american or in new zealand's case australian because i feel like they want to take ownership because they're quite a small country in terms of population in comparison it It doesn't matter. I was not expecting that. We got a little message from Laura saying,

what I like about this is she's basically saying she doesn't even listen to the show. Hi, my name is Laura and my husband told me to let you know that I have ever ready

batteries in my remote. Him too. Presumably because you live together. You share a remote. Imagine having individual remotes for the TV. It'd be a nightmare, wouldn't it? It You share a remote. Imagine having individual remotes for the TV. It'd be a nightmare, wouldn't it? That would be a bore.

It's like a sitcom. Yeah. As a first-time forced listener to this pointless and incorrect podcast and as a Canadian, I feel it's important to let you know that the Barenaked Ladies are in fact my countrymen. They are not American

but come from Toronto in Canada. There we go. There we go. Do you want a quick one as well? I mean, these emails are all just the same, aren't they? Pretty much, yeah. I mean, who's doing this? This is Shannon Davidson.

Thank you, Shannon. Who's got Ruido brand batteries. Have we seen a few of those? Ruido? I don't think I've ever seen a Ruido. We've seen those on the Twitter, I think. Yeah, been listening since the very beginning. I look forward to listening to you boys every week.

You really help me get me through my long work weeks. I work three jobs. My word, Shannon. since the very beginning. I look forward to listening to you boys every week. You really help me get through my long work weeks. I work three jobs. My word, Shannon. Wow, keep me busy. I hear that the Canadians are very hardworking. Yeah. So Shannon's from New Brunswick in Atlantic Canada, apparently. First off, I'm pretty sure you do know this band are Canadian.

The band were recently inducted in the Canadian Music Hall of Fame and were presented with the award at the Junos, which is Canada's version of the Grammys by Getty Lee who is the lead singer of Rush also Canadian which I'm sure you both know and Michael Bublé who was actually the host of the award show who used to go out with Emily Blunt

oh ok there's your link the band has remained together however to mark the award at the Junos all the original members of the band reunited and performed. Stephen Page the former frontman of the band left in 2009 to pursue a solo career but also amidst some legal troubles there's been some bad blood between him and the band in the years including uh some legal stuff good do you remember that michael buble meme thing with the velociraptors so basically someone took every single press shot of michael buble and put a

velociraptor's head in the background. It's almost like unpredictably entertaining. Very, very funny. Enjoyable. Somebody else actually got back in touch, a previous emailer, and one of our favourites, certainly, with a little bit more information, and he ended with,

Ben, he's Canadian, not American, blah, blah, blah. Stephen Page, blah, blah, blah, etc., etc blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera. But, do you want to start that email? Yeah. It's quite an interesting one. It's from Pilot Neil. We're doing emails

before we're doing It's Been. Is that what's happening now? Well, this is the emails part, isn't it? Yeah, we're not going to take a break at 10 past.

That's crazy talk. Oh, I just really want to add an It's Been on once I get in. Oh, sorry. Right, okay,

all right. From my mate, Sean. Okay. It's good. It's Been. Do another one. It's Been. And I get in. Oh, sorry. Right, okay. From my mate Sean. Okay. It's good. It's been. Do another one. It's been.

And then we will go to Pilot Neil. So Pilot Neil, if you're in the cockpit now listening away. Keep circling. Yeah. Keep yourself in a holding pattern. Get it in autopilot, mate. Yeah.

I hear it's very easy to fly a plane nowadays. I can't look more. Well, Pete and I are going to do it. We're going to Naples soon and we're going to do it. Anyway, my mate Sean gets in touch with me. Out of the blue yesterday. I haven't heard from him for ages. He says, check this out.

You've got to read this out on the computer. This genuinely happened to me. He said, the other week, a mate of mine, and by the way, Sean's very Essex. I got him to email me in the exact story, but he's written it in like an Essex style. A mate of mine. If I read it badly, that's basically why. He says, a mate of mine the other week stayed at the Crazy Bear

Hotel, which is, I've looked it up and it appears to be quite a quirky oddly sort of decorated hotel. It looks quite sort of gimmicky because it looks quite nice, but you know what I mean. He says he phoned me the next day, absolutely raving about it, asking if me and our

mates all wanted to go as a group with our wives and girlfriends. And I just shrugged it off, absolutely raving about it, asking if me and our mates were wanting to go as a group with our wives and girlfriends. And I just shrugged it off and thought not much about it. And then no more than two days later, I get an email in my Hotmail confirming my booking at Crazy Bear, the same hotel. I thought, that's a bit weird. And I made the connection, so I phoned him and said,

oh, that's lovely, mate, but you shouldn't have, et cetera. He swears blind that he's got absolutely nothing to do with it. What? So I'm having none of this. He's done this sort of thing before, and I just thought he'd done it for us. So I phoned the hotel and asked if it was legitimate and it's all paid up.

And they say, yeah, of course, it's all paid up. I confirmed my email, and I was convinced it was my friend, so I just left it, put it in my diary. Day before comes along, and I phone him saying, thanks again. Me and the missus are really looking forward to it and he flatly denies it again i couldn't get it out my mind that he'd done it for us uh so anyway we went along me and my my missus we turned up on the

sunday having booked a monday off work and go to check in gave my name uh and the email and they said that's lovely this way to your room and we've go into our room, and we sat down. We've unpacked our stuff. And we're sipping the complimentary champagne, and the phone rings. And it's reception. So you've got a table booked in the Thai restaurant next door at 8.30. And we go, oh, that's lovely. Thanks.

Very trusting people. They'd be no good in a horror film. Well, he thinks, oh, his mate's obviously booked a table for four, and they're going to surprise him. So at that point, my friend Sean rings back and says, oh, do you know if the table's for four? And they said, no, no, it's only for two. He goes, okay, that's a bit weird.

So as we're continuing to unpack and drink our champagne, the phone goes again. And Sean says his missus answers the phone and the receptionist says, excuse me, can you confirm the name of the reservation again? And she says, yeah, Sean Holder. And he said of the reservation again and she says yeah sean holder and he said in the email and he confirms the email and the phone number confirms that as well and they say that's strange because there's a sean holder in reception looking to check in

oh no so our faces dropped but i was still convinced it was my friend having me on yeah so i i just go up to reception which incidentally is some tarty conversion of the bottom of a double-decker red bus in which no one can stand up properly i look around and see no one familiar and ask if there's a shorn holder here a man turns around and says yes he ended up sending me his confirmation and no one booked the thing um what happened was that there was a guy there with exactly the same name in the reception in the same area, and the email address was spelled S-H-A-U-N, but my friend's name is S-E-A-N, and they got the confirmation wrong on the email when they booked it, and they sent him the email

instead of the actual guy that booked it. What are the chances of that happening? How have they managed to? So when you say they've done that i mean i presume the company have got the name wrong rather than the person himself and they've just got the wrong email address yeah and they just went along with it thinking it was wow but the chance of that must be absolutely astronomical incredibly remote yeah amazing that said uh we did get an email from virgin wi-fi yes now i've got a bone to pick with our

listeners about that i've been getting emails through saying, thank you very much for registering to use Virgin East Coast Wi-Fi after you started doing farts at farts.com. I was nothing to do with this. Why are they targeting me? I know, that's what I like about this. Why am I not as popular as you?

Well, also the Luke and Pete show got one as well. Oh, did they? Okay, so people are doing that hello at Luke and Pete show dot com Pete oh yeah and then shall we go no I heard it's Sean

at Luke and Pete show yeah spelled S-E-A-N shall we go back to Pilot Neil yeah sorry yes Pilot Neil permission to land

yes permission granted hello to Pilot Neil very excited to hear my email read out on last week's show. No cocaine on board this week, as far as I know. Just a drunk Laswegian who had to be offloaded by police.

A quick follow-up to some of your questions, then I'll shed my anorak and leave you in peace. Hopefully with a pertinent Mankata entry too. Yes, autopilots can land aircraft, Luke, and the technology has been around since the 60s. I do not want to see a plane from the 60s landing. Wow. But mind you, they put a man on the around since the 60s. I do not want to see a plane from the 60s landing. But mind you, they put a man on the moon in the 60s. Good point.

All on an Amstrad CPC or something. Auto-lands, which is what they call them presumably, are only really done when the visibility is so poor that a pilot would be unable to see the runway in time to correct the aircraft's trajectory quickly enough to make a safe landing. Do you reckon I've been on a plane that's auto-landed? Or is this just for very extreme circumstances?

Because that makes me feel a bit queasy. I reckon you and I have both been on a plane that's auto-landed. And I'll tell you the exact flight, London to Johannesburg in 2010. If you remember, we landed and it was so foggy, I didn't even know we were on the really that we were close to to the ground and we just and we just hit the ground it was fog all around us right so that must have been an auto land holy as we call it in the trade um yeah if the visibility is any lower than 550 meters then the autopilot has to land the aircraft if sophisticated enough equipment is installed

the pilots don't actually need to see anything at all before the wheels touch ground, which is initially a very disconcerting feeling. The aircraft will roll out along the centre line of the runway and in actual fact, taxiing from there to the parking stand can be more of a problem when it's that foggy than actually landing the plane. That's a testament to the technology, isn't it? To install, calibrate and maintain a low visibility landing system,

it's obviously very expensive, so they're not available everywhere. And while autolands are generally very precise, the crosswind limit is roughly half that of a human pilot. So we're going to be on board for the foreseeable future. So obviously dealing with winds is, you know. Well, crosswinds are very difficult, aren't they, for landings, I think, particularly. To Luke's point about how much a pilot's job

is to just be there for passengers' peace of mind, I'll share some of the most common questions visitors to the flight deck come out with. I didn't think people were allowed to visit the flight deck anymore. Yeah. Security. One, isn't it small in here? Well, we are really just sitting here,

not sending flat pack furniture or anything. Yeah. How do you know what all the buttons do? That's why they're all labelled. I'm always very disconcerted by the fact that there's always a manual on board yeah and like when there's been trouble landing planes and like in a lot of like the bad ones that have crashed like some of that things have been going where people have had to go through a manual before actually landing right because you can't know everything about aircraft it's a very complex bit of machinery of course um

what sort of batteries power this baby v Vata Industrials, apparently. Right. And you basically just sit here watching the plane fly itself, don't you? He said, surely that's a good thing. Would you rather you'd be getting more from your... Would you feel you'd be getting more from your airfare if you knew we were up here on oxygen, putting out engine fires and avoiding mountains?

Well, I do want you to be able to do that if you have to. Yeah, I guess so. Pretty much like a goalkeeper, isn't it, being a pilot? Yeah. You're there until something goes wrong and you're like, oh, God. It's all about concentration. Yeah, I guess so. Pretty much like a goalkeeper, isn't it, being a pilot? Yeah. You're there until something goes wrong and you're like, oh God.

It's all about concentration. Yeah, exactly. Finally, a possible candidate for Mankata could be the memorial to flight UTA-772, which was brought down by a Libyan terrorist bomb

on a flight from N'Djamena to Paris in 1989, the year after the Lockerbie disaster. The aircraft wreckage came down in an extremely remote area of the Teneri... Teneri... I'm terrible this week. Sorry, Luke.

Teneri Desert in Niger, with the loss of all 170 souls on board. In 2007, victims' families created a memorial near to the crash site using thousands of black rocks that were trucked in to create a huge compass rose and outline in the shape and dimensions of the lost decent. Yeah, I've seen that memorial. It's beautiful, isn't it?

It's in the middle of nowhere, which is incredible. And also one of the airliners' wings was used as a compass point. That's right, and there's 170 broken mirrors to remember the victims of the crash as well. I've seen it. It's a fantastic memorial. And the memorial is clearly visible from the air as you fly over. And indeed, on Google Maps,

just search for flight UTA 772. All the best, Dost Emanuel. And cross-check, he says. Yeah, Pilot Neil, he said he's going to put down his anorak. And thanks for that email, Neil. And sorry for reading it out so badly because he's such a nice writer, this Pilot Neil.

But listen, he's not going to get away with that easily because he says after this email he's going to put his anorak down and leave us all to it. Well, we've had an email specifically targeting Neil. Pilot Neil. And a ground-to-air question missile. Yes, from JW who says,

I'm currently listening to episode 50 and hearing the airline pilot's cocaine story made me incandescent with rage. As an attorney, albeit the u.s and ignorant of the rules of evidence in the uk and various commonwealth states such as india the idea that police would chuck two kilograms of cocaine onto a flight and call it a day is mind-boggling chain of custody of evidence is a big deal any indication that the government took said evidence and placed it into private hands with no oversight to be delivered via uncertain means

at the end of an international flight makes my hair hurt and would equal an instant acquittal in, I know not the case here, but an American court. I call shenanigans. Anyway, love the show. JW's called you out here, Neil. We need more information, so do get back in touch and take us into the next chapter of this saga.

Well, I'm sure reputable airlines presumably have a licence to fly evidence yeah you'd hope so with the governing bodies they've got to get there

somehow hasn't they you can't have an FBI man handcuffed to everything going on foot everywhere and also you know I mean I can't

I don't know what Indian courts look like but they're probably a little less rigorous than the US ones. Is that fair to say? Would that be fair to say? There was definitely two kilograms when we put it on the plane.

And what the pilots did when they barrel rolled the plane a few times. Yeah. Shall we have some more emails? Shall we have a break first, PT? All right, then. Let's have a bloody break. Okay, Luke, don't conge me, mate. Pipe down, Pete. I told you never to argue with the customers.

Never argue with the customers. You don't even have to talk over the end of that one, because there's no problem with it, editorially speaking. No. No. Alex. Hello, Alex. Were we talking about apples at any point, Luke? I saw this email, and I was confused as well.

We must have at some point. As the resident grocery expert, I would like Pete to specify which apple he would like. It's so weird. Seeing as, is he going to send me this apple? Seeing as we still have about a thousand different apples. It's such a weird email, but I like it because it's just so kind of like,

name an apple you like. And he's given a list here, is Alex or she. Go on. Fuji, Gala, Honeycrisp, Pink Lady, Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, Lady Apples, Jonah Gold, Braeburn, Granny Smith, and Jazz. Do you know you can regularly get different types of apple on the same tree?

I think the cross-pollination thing is quite important for growing apple trees. I see. Honeycrisp are popular in the US. I know that. I never heard of them before I went there. My favourite out of that list would be a braeburn, I would say. Braeburns are like the rugged, autumny ones.

No, red and green, very shiny. They're not rugged. No, but it's a solid tip. You're thinking of a cox. It's not like a shitty kind of garlic. He's not even put a cox in there. I reckon Alex is American because cox are the excellent example of an English apple. And he's not put put a Cox in there. I reckon Alex is American because Cox are the excellent example of an English apple.

And he's not put it in there. Honeycrisp are American though, I know that. I'm not really into Granny Smith. They're a bit sharp, a bit tart. Fuji, the big yellow ones,

aren't they? Yes, they are, yeah. They're pretty tasteless then. Quite fluffy. Yeah, so there you go.

I hope that answers your question. I like a Brea Burner. A pink lady at a push. Yes, I have heard that about you, Mr. Donaldson. Alex says his preferred, his or her preferred apple type is Honeycrisp. Yeah. Again, very, very popular in the US.

Honey peeps, don't do it to me. What about this then, Peter? This email you've sent to me, but there's no one's name at the bottom of it. So apologies to whoever you are, but you know who you are. Who dis then? You know who you are. It says, lads, I was in the pub having a meal when I overheard this conversation.

This is on the subject of stupid sayings. It's probably the stupidest thing I've heard to date. Man, why don't you have the gammon? Woman, I don't like fish. Man, what? Woman, it's fish. I don't like fish. Man, gammon isn't fish.

It comes from pigs. I love him saying that. It comes from pigs. It comes from pigs. I love him saying that. It comes from pigs. She says, oh, I thought it was fish because it rhymes with salmon. I'm having that. I think that's good. Gammon and salmon. That's just confusing to non-English speakers. No one has ever said, oh, it

rhymes with that, so it must be also the same type of food as that. It doesn't happen. It just does not happen, Pete. I'm having it. I'm enjoying that immensely, quite frankly. What have you got next? I've got one from Darren Cornell. All right.

Darren Cornell. This is kind of a menaca entry, but not really. But it is fascinating. Hello, Luke and Pete. I first heard this on a different podcast, boo, a while ago. Hopefully you don't mind that. It's nothing to do with any of your recent discussion topics. No sick, no bread, and no Stubbington fucking study centre.

Oh, I don't have a pop at the study centre. Yeah, the SSC. Back in the 1940s when German subs were smashing up Allied ships, an inventor named Geoffrey Pike came up with an idea. A boat made of ice, or more specifically a material which he'd invented and named Pikerete, which is a combination of ice and wood chip,

as this would be harder to destroy. Now, if you Google pykrete, P-Y-K-R-E-T-E, there are a lot of demonstrations of people firing pretty large caliber guns at big blocks of pykrete they've made themselves. And it really is something else. How do you make it? You literally get some wood pulp or wood shavings, put it in water and freeze the water and it is

incredibly stable and incredibly tough. To demonstrate the durability presumably of... It's pronounced pykrete like concrete presumably. Presumably, yeah. To demonstrate the durability of Pycrete, Lord Mountbatten, the Chief of Combined Operations,

took a block of Pycrete and a block of ice to a group of admirals and generals at a project meeting. He drew his service revolver in the office and shot the block of ice, which shattered as expected. He then shot the Pycrete. The bullet ricocheted off it and hit Admiral Ernest King, Chief of Naval Operations, in the leg. I love this.

That's how you know the meeting took place in the 1940s. Men bringing out sidearms. Just firing around, yeah. Even in England, the most genial place. Have you seen our merch recently? Yeah. This was apparently enough to convince all involved that this was a good idea

because if it's stronger than ice, it'll probably make a good warship and construction began on what was called Project Habakkuk. The ice would be cooled by cooler coils running through the thick pycrete walls. To this day, at the bottom of Lake Louise in Canada is a pile of coils

and wood chip and it can be found with a sign informing divers of Project Habakkuk. Unfortunately, by the time construction had made any major progress, the war had moved on and the project was scrapped or just sunk, presumably.

Fascinating. An unofficial bit of Mankata there. I love it. From Darren Cornell. Thank you, Darren. I absolutely love this. I love the idea of Pykrete.

I love the idea of shooting Pykrete. Well, I love the idea of other people doing it and me looking at them. Getting a ricochet in your leg. Thanks for that, Darren. On the murder rate thing, Peter,

I'm pleased you brought that up because I forgot about that and you reminded me. That thing that made it into all the newspapers last week about London's murder rate overtaking New York's for the first time ever, that was some of the most irresponsible reporting I've ever seen.

It was like a willful misreading of statistics. What's actually happened is New York City, because of their new way of policing, what they would call, I suppose, community policing, has seen the murder rate in New York drop from 2,000 a year down to now it's just a bit below London. London's murder rate stayed exactly the same. So it was just a really misleading headline

by them yeah why can't we do what New York does yeah well yeah who knows yeah I'm not I'm not Cressida Dick

head of the police Pete that's a weird posting isn't it because she was she was part of the Minnetheth shooting wasn't she

Cressida Dick can't put that in why was she yeah she was I thought you were going to say it's a weird name

no well it is a weird name but she was she, I think she was head of operations in that operation. Give it a Google. I promise you. Come back to us. I'll believe you. All right. I'll believe you. Just saying.

It was just a weird, she was part of a high profile fuck up, and suddenly she's the head of operations at the Met. I've got an email, Peter, which so mundane that i and with the greatest respect to um charlie but i really want to include it i really want to include it right right he says hi lads uh first off batteries i was surprised to be picking up japan tech batteries from the floor at my friend's house after knocking the remote off the chair no back cover classic but i thought batteries in japan how very pete um i was chatting with a friend about stuff being filmed near where we lived i'm from the

isle of dogs and so plenty of stuff has been because of canary wharf and greenwich and all that yeah um so upon googling something including the words uh movie isle of dogs i discovered pete's new favorite an actual movie that's called all of dogs uh i found it funny hearing your chat recently right after that happened. Anyway, you went on to mention the London Arena. The Excel Centre is not on the Isle of Dogs. I thought it was. In fact, I'm going to Google it now because I was convinced it absolutely was.

Charlie, he or she is putting his head over the parapet and getting involved. So probably right. It's on the Royal Victoria Dock, apparently. There we go. But he says, however, the London Arena was at the end of my street, but hasn't existed for years. It was instant nostalgia when Pete mentioned it. I saw the London Knights play ice hockey there,

wrestling, monster trucks, Disney on ice, and God knows what else. Way back, Gary Glitter even played right there, right after the news came out. And my mum's friend got arrested for trying to sell the tickets outside instead of actually going in. There's more flats there in this place now with the Papa John's at the bottom and of course another Tesco Express. So I suppose

I've got a few topics of conversation. What significant changes have happened around the places you grew up? What locations from your area have you seen in film or TV? And what's the most interesting film you've actually come across in person? All the best Charlie. Do you want me to give you a few? Wow.

What, the film and TV one? I saw Rob Brydon filming an advert down the bottom of my road not that long ago. I mean, I live in the centre of town, so... Oh, yeah. You see yourself all the time. There's a lot of stuff. Rihanna was filming her

second last music video. Didn't Taylor Swift do it as well? I don't know. That was in East London, I think. There's a lovely F.E.A.R. Ian Brown video from back in the day, late 90s, early 90s. Oh, Fear, yeah? Yeah, it goes straight through.

It goes down Berwick Street Market, down my street a little bit, and then down across Shaftesbury Avenue into Chinatown. And he just does it on a bike, and it's all filmed backwards. Or rather, it's reversed afterwards, obviously. And it's just nice to see my part of Soho back in the day. Like, not that long ago, but you can see how people collect rubbish

from the streets now. It used to be an absolute shit show there. Really? It was really grotty, and there was like a strip club on every little car, and little clip clubs everywhere. Clip joint. You're always going to get things being filmed around where you live,

because it's quite a famous part of town. Where I grew up, and the question Charlie asked was where you grew up, Pete, actually, not where you live now. All right, okay. Well, I've shown some personal growth. You have.

You have. I don't eat as many Hermann's-y Germans in the last year, so. I don't really like the chips in there. They're like oven baked chips. Who's going to Hermannsley Germans and concentrate on the chips?

I'm just saying it's an accompaniment to the meal that sort of lets you down a bit. Loads of movies are filmed where I'm from in Gosport because there's quite a lot

of military stuff around there. Right. So I think maybe the most recent Avengers maybe was shot around there. I think part of Dunkirk might have been shot around there as well.

So it does happen. But we talked about locations Get um get carter or hartlepool was it yeah well part of it the original one the beach scene oh and didn't we talk about ridley scott getting inspiration from hartlepool as well for blade runner the um i think sometimes directors just change their stories to suit whoever they're talking to really but yeah you were doing you yeah but the the amount of changes around where I grew up, we talked about this on the Doomsday Project, didn't we, remember? That's right.

Project Doomsday or whatever. So you can hear that on about episode 40 or something like that. Well done, Charlie. Well done, Charlie. Right, so where do we go now? Should we have a mencarta? Have you got one? Well, I mean, I've given you everything that I've got,

so have you got one? I haven't got one, no. Oh, for crying out loud. Maybe we'll have one next time. But it's Monday today. Why don't we do one on Thursday? Why don't we let people just ease their way back into the week on a Monday?

I hope your commute's been shortened and gone by a lot quicker for listening to this nonsense. And we'll come back to you with a men carter on Thursday. Okie dokie. How about that? We'd like to give maximum props to, is it Maya Angelou's birthday? Whose birthday is it? Yeah, Maya Angelou's. 90th. Okie dokie. How about that? We'd like to give maximum props to is it Maya Angelou's birthday?

Whose birthday is it? Yeah Maya Angelou's 90th. So we'll do that on Thursday with the theme tune. Good morning. The Men Carter.

Yeah. If you want to get into the show as always it's hello at lukeandshawn.com lukeandpeachshow.com hello at

lukeandpeachshow.com if you are a man called Sean Holder he doesn't mind me naming him. If you're the a man called Sean Holder, he doesn't mind me naming him. If you're the other man called Sean Holder and you're listening

to this show, get in touch because that would be hilarious. What a fascinating story. I know. It's such a weird coincidence. It's amazing. But very trusting

that you just go along with it. A man with the same name in the same area who has links to the same hotel and booked a hotel that his best friend went into the week before

it's incredible what are the chances what are the chances yeah who knows so yeah we'll be back next week with more

no this week Thursday Pete get with the program I forget sometimes I'm going to start talking about Easter again in a minute if you're not careful

I'd love a bit of chocolate Jesus that was that was genuinely a slip of the finger. That wasn't me messing up. I mean, it was me technically messing up, but I didn't press it deliberately.

You know people think you do this stuff on purpose. Yeah. I'm a shambles. I'm a shambles.