The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 59: A hippo's dinner
Episode Date: April 30, 2018Ever wondered what it's like to be swallowed by a hippo? Well, wonder no more as your boys have found a story of a man who experienced it. We'll be honest, it doesn't sound that nice.Also, everyone's ...favourite drill sergeant, R Lee Ermey, has sadly passed away, although that death wasn't hippo-related you'll be pleased to hear. And if that wasn't enough, there's more plane chat, including how you can still visit the cockpit, and we receive a missive about possibly the stupidest driver of all time.There's also a mystery to be solved, so listen out for that and send all your theories into hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I didn't bring you banana in Luke and now I'm hungry.
Sucks to be me.
Schoolboy, I bought you that banana as well.
Why will you not treat it with respect?
I know, I'm hungry.
That banana hater is the Pete and I'm the Luke.
I'm a banana liker.
I think I made that very clear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The theme tune's run out.
It's good talking about bananas.
I thought I'd be able to get through it
because I ate last night at 12 o'clock
a Deliveroo'd 40 quid's worth of Chinese.
You're always doing this.
I've told you, you've got to stop doing it.
12 a.m.
I mean, 12 a.m., that's ridiculous.
Do they still deliver all night?
Turns out.
Why are you, on your own, ordering £40 worth of Chinese at that time?
Because I can never decide, and it all looks so delicious.
I went for every meal.
It was like, oh, lovely.
So have you got loads in the fridge left over to reheat for leftovers?
Yeah.
Can't reheat the rice, so that's the problem, isn't it?
I always do, though.
They say you can't, but I always do.
Troubling.
Speaking of that, I got absolutely rinsed in a shop the other day.
I went to a nice little sort of produce, like a deli type place in Herne Hill,
near where I live, and it's all local produce.
It's nice, really nice.
I don't go there very often because it's expensive.
And I picked up a couple of blocks of cheese,
and one said about £8 on it
and the other said about £5
which I understand is a lot for cheese.
I was like,
could I pile up this cheese into blocks
and land my wingsuit into it?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
That's what I was using it for.
Anyway, I got to the front of the queue
in a massively busy deli
and the woman rang it up
and was like,
£27 please.
How much cheese did you buy?
Not much.
Not much.
The king's cheese.
What's going on
and I said
I'm sorry
and she was like
27 pound 50
I was like
what
and it turned out
it was the price
per 100 grams
it was the most
expensive cheese
in London probably
but I couldn't
obviously I had to
save face
I had to buy it
big cheese
king cheese
that's the English
problem in a nutshell
there isn't it
what would you have
done in that situation
you'd have just bought it
mate I would have went I I'll have two then!
Yeah, because you don't want to be embarrassed in front of
all the other people. I meant to do this!
Yeah, coming up this
show on, I keep saying this week because we used to do one
a week, but coming up this time around on Luke and Pete
Show, we've got a load of your emails, which you can
get in touch with us by emailing
hello at lukeandpeteshow.com.
I've got a lovely
article I found this week
help yourself
the EU cheese mountain
I found
well first of all a couple of bits of
admin for me I was
upset to hear of R. Lee
Ermey the famous drill sergeant in full metal jacket
passing away last week
oh he wasn't a real, right ok
no he was as well
he was a real one as well hang. No, he was as well. Oh.
He was a real one as well.
Hang on.
So what?
He was one in real life
and then he was a film...
He was.
He originally came into
Full Metal Jacket,
I believe,
as a consultant.
Right.
And he was showing the actors
how to do it.
And Kubrick went,
hang on a minute.
Yeah, let's just get you in.
This is brilliant.
You're doing it.
And that's how he got the job.
Did he do any acting after that?
I believe so, yeah.
Do you know why he did?
Because he does the voiceover for the little soldiers in Toy Story.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
I like those little guys.
In the obituary I read about him, I mean, he was very right wing.
He's so right wing that he's officially listed himself as an independent
because the Republican Party in the US weren't right wing that he's officially listed himself as an independent because the Republican
party in the US
weren't right wing enough
even the 2018 version
where all bets are off
there we go
all manner of kooks
can be a member
but according to his obituary
and for those of you
who are listening
who don't know
what we're talking about
this is a guy
famous drill sergeant
in the Stanley Kubrick film
Full Metal Jacket
one of the defining
Vietnam War films
apparently
he was so good
in the shooting
of the movie that Kub films. Apparently, he was so good in the shooting of the movie
that Kubrick, a famous attention to detail sort of control freak,
he was happy with him after like two takes,
which is very completely unheard of.
Really?
Yeah, but who's he to sort of say that was shit?
Exactly, Pete.
And the thing is, it makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
Because he's just doing what he normally does.
It's not really acting, is it?
He's just pretending
they're all recruits
and just cracking on
anyway so that was
something that caught my eye
the other thing that
caught my eye
was someone shared
a link to a Guardian
article
from 2013
I don't know if they
still do it
it's this
the Guardian definitely
still have a website
they do yeah
but they don't necessarily
do this column
which is just called
experience
and check out the headline to this experience I was swallowed by a hippo The Guardian definitely still have a website. They do, yeah, but they don't necessarily do this column, which is just called Experience.
And check out the headline to this.
Experience.
I was swallowed by a hippo.
Wow.
There's a man.
That's so dangerous.
There was a man who was a tour guide at 27 years old on the Zambezi River near Victoria Falls,
and a two-ton bull hippo attacked him.
Right.
Basically tried to eat him and swallowed half his body.
Wow.
How did he get out of that one?
He survived to tell the tale.
He just pulled himself out?
I think so, yeah.
When mouths are so big, it must be quite hard.
It must be quite easy to, you know, get in.
You could probably fit,
I could probably fit in one of their mouths, couldn't I?
If I rolled up.
Yes, you could.
Listen to this paragraph.
This is directly from the article.
I was aware that my legs were surrounded by water,
but my top half was almost dry.
I seemed to be trapped in something slimy.
There was a terrible sulfurous smell like rotten eggs
and a tremendous pressure against my chest.
My arms were trapped,
but I managed to free one hand and felt around
and my palm passed through the wiry bristles
of the hippo's snout.
It was only then that I realized I was underwater, trapped up to my waist in his mouth. That is one of the more extreme situations a man or woman could find themselves in.
And he sadly lost an arm.
He lost one of his arms.
They thought he was going to lose two arms and a leg, but he only lost one arm.
How did he crawl out?
There was a medical team nearby.
He doesn't know.
This is a great quote.
I have no idea how long we stayed under the water.
Time passes very slowly when you're in a hippo's mouth.
But anyway, by chance, there was a medical team nearby
that managed to save his life.
But this is the killer.
I like to think he had a little feather in his pocket
and he tickled it.
The hippo's knees!
That's how you do it.
Like some sort of Hanna-Barbera cartoon.
But sadly,
one of his colleagues
was killed
by his injuries.
But this is the kicker
to the whole story.
It's probably because
the hippo was fucking full
after that one.
Listen to this
at the end of the story.
I'm convinced
I met him one more time.
Talking about the hippo.
Two years later,
I led an expedition
down the Zambezi.
Still doing it.
Still doing it.
And as we drift apart...
How did you lose that arm?
I don't want to be on this trip.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't want you to be my tour guide.
You've lost an arm to a hippo.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, listen, he says,
two years later,
I led an expedition down the Zambezi
and as we drifted past the stretch
where the attack had taken place,
a huge hippo lurched out of the water
next to my canoe.
I screamed so loudly
that those with me said
they'd never heard anything like it.
Has he done this before?
He dived back under it and was never seen again.
Hang on.
He was...
I bet my life savings it was the same hippo determined to have the final word.
He was in charge of a canoe.
That's with one arm.
Get yourself a speedboat, mate.
Jesus.
It's bad, isn't it?
That is dreadful.
Would you go back there if it happened to you?
I'd probably... No No I probably wouldn't
To be honest
No I wouldn't
I've seen that
Been inside a hippo's mouth
That's what's been
Floating my boat this week
If you excuse the pun
One more thing
Really quickly Pete
I saw that
I sort of thought
This might be up your
Up your street
Samsung have released
A Galaxy phone
The J2 Pro
Which is unable
To connect to the internet
No 3G
No Wi-Fi, no nothing.
It's intended for students and people
who want to just make calls only.
I think they need
a product also released by Samsung called
fucking self-control. Yes.
People who sort of bleat on about
I'm going to get this phone that's got
nothing on it because, you know, the internet
is just spoiling, it's ruining it.
Shut up! Just don't do it. When we co-authored a book, Pete, when we co-authored a because, you know, the internet is just spoiling, it's ruining it. Shut up. Just don't do it.
When we co-authored a book, Pete, when we co-authored a book,
you bought a piece of hardware which was enabled you to type
and write out what you wanted to write without the distraction
of the internet.
So you've literally done that.
No, but the problem is, with that product,
the thing that I was writing was very much needed
to be factually accurate.
So it was a bit of a fool's errand, really.
I've still got that.
FreeWrite, it's called.
It's a little mechanical keyboard with an e-ink display,
so it lasts for months, the battery.
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty good, but I mean...
Have you ever used it since?
No.
Very hipster-y.
How much did it cost?
A couple of hundred quid.
You should have just bought a typewriter.
Yeah. There we go. Should have. very hipster-y how much did it cost? a couple of hundred you should have just bought a typewriter yeah
there we go
should have
I was talking to
the writer
well
Emily Dean
she works for
she works on
Frank Skinner's show
she's done some work
with the Ramble
I know her
nice lady
she is writing a book
like you know
80,000 words
and stuff about her life
it's actually like
what she thinks about when she walks a dog and stuff I her life. It's actually what she thinks about
when she walks a dog and stuff.
I think that's the case anyway.
Anyway, but she lost her sister a few years ago.
And so she was writing these passages about her sister
and basically she lost all of the work.
It was a really weird bug.
And yeah, they couldn't recover it.
So she had to give herself a week
and then start again and rewrite it.
Could she remember it all?
Well, yeah, but it's a very raw emotion, isn't it?
Writing about the loss of your loved one.
It's terrible, yeah.
You know the guy who wrote the book Shantaram?
Shantaram?
In prison.
He wrote it famously in prison.
I think he had to write that twice
because it was confiscated when he was right
near the end the first time around. He wrote it
in prison. He had to rewrite the whole thing.
Jonathan Ross's wife, who obviously
writes big Hollywood
blockbusters now, but she
got the job for X-Men, I think,
one of the X-Men films, and she wrote it
and there was this bug on
the Apple version of Word and it turned
everything to like astersterix, I think,
something like that.
And anyway, so Jonathan Ross rang up Johnny Ives,
you know, the main designer for Apple,
and basically said, can you help?
And so Johnny Ives said, all right, yeah,
I'll sort out a transport, send it to Silicon Valley.
Nothing they could do.
They couldn't do anything about it.
That is the best endeavor, really.
Well, at least you know you've left those stuff unturned there.
Exactly, because you had to deliver it to stone unturned there. Yeah, exactly.
Because she had it delivered to Warner Brothers or whatever the next week or something. Why couldn't they do anything about it?
Yeah, it's just one in a million bug.
It happens to five people a year, and it just so happened to both Emily and also her friends as well.
So in the mid-90s, I was obsessed with The X-Files.
Right.
As I'm sure many people were.
And the first work of Jane
she's called Jane Goldman right?
the first work of Jane Goldman
I'd ever
ever come across
she wrote
the official X-Files
Book of the Unexplained
oh really?
Volume 1 and 2
and I got those for Christmas
and
later on I was like
Jane Goldman hang on a minute
and I looked in my shelf
and
so that was obviously how she
well one of the
ways she started
out I think
doing like
non-fiction stuff
of that type
how interesting
is that
not very
it doesn't matter
because that's
what this show
is all about
you never know
if it's going to
be interesting
until you say it
classic
classic
I might go back
and re-watch a lot
of the X-Files
see what it's like
did you watch
any of the reboots
terrible couldn't get on with it could not get on with it at all Classic episode. I might go back and re-watch a lot of the X-Files, see what it's like. Did you watch any of the reboots? Terrible.
Couldn't get on with it.
Stinking.
Could not get on with it at all.
We've been talking about drug planes quite a lot.
Yes, we have.
Drugs being transported by planes.
So we've had a few emails on the subject,
which is quite good.
There's an amazing email from a guy from Baltimore.
Have you got it?
Yes.
Yeah, man, it's so good.
Isn't there, mate?
So good.
We'll kick off with Srirams, though.
Hello, Sriram.
Hello, Mr. Moore and Mr. Donaldson.
I was into episode 53 today,
this morning,
on my way to work,
and I was amazed to hear
the topic of Indian courts come up
because I'm currently a lawyer
working in Mumbai, India.
There we go.
I hear it's the new Bombay.
The Luke and Pete show tentacles
stretch far and wide.
Not what I was expecting
when I downloaded the episode
today, this morning.
Firstly, I have no experience with the American
judicial system, except from American
movies and television shows, which I'm quite sure are
in no way indicative of the actual state
of affairs over there. That being said,
while I would like to be patriotic and defend
the honour of Indian courts, the fact of the matter is
that most of them are indeed quite
lackadaisical. They are, of course,
exceptions on account of the brilliance
of few individual judges who happen to be a member of that court,
but those are few and far between.
Another fact I would like to mention, though, which might interest you,
is that the current legislation pertaining to the laws of evidence in India
is actually the Evidence Act of 1872.
As you are no doubt aware, India became independent in 1947.
In other words, the said piece of legislation
was enacted by the Imperial Legislative
Council which was the
legislature for British India
from 1861 to 1947
hence any criticism
which JW from America may have
in relation to the handling of confiscated
cocaine should be directed at you
lot and not us since we Indians
weren't actually
involved in the drafting of this piece of legislation we'll take it on the chin i think
yeah i think so sir i'm thank you very much for that one that is so informative i am humbled and
embarrassed that an actual member of the court system is uh listening involved well let's follow
listen follow that up with this though pete from george this is one of my favorite emails of all
time also referencing the wire i love's why. I love it.
Also referencing JW from a couple of weeks ago.
This is from George,
who has Rayovac and Duracell batteries.
He says,
what?
This is brilliant.
This is so Baltimore, it's amazing.
While listening to episode 53,
I was initially shocked
to hear an American attorney talking out of his ass.
Talking out of his ass,
behind his briefs.
But given the lawyers I've encountered during my career,
the surprise quickly faded.
I have long been a drug detective in Baltimore,
in fact, for over 20 years.
And yes, the wire is pretty accurate.
And worked with federal drug task forces for over a decade.
I love it.
We frequently employ private airline carriers
to transport evidence in sealed containers
that have been seized by foreign customs officials.
This has been established with diplomatic agreements between various governments. And it's a fairly common practice, transport evidence and seal containers that have been seized by foreign customs officials this has
been established with diplomatic agreements between various governments and there's a fairly common
practice given the global nature of the drug trade i don't really have anything witty to add
but felt motivated to write solely because i never pass up the opportunity to stick it to an attorney
or barrister as you guys with the funny accent like to say george now george if you are an actual
drug detective in baltimore we need
to hear more from you yeah simple as that really i don't care what it is and in what capacity but
if you're our man in baltimore we've seen we've all seen the wire we want more from you more more
more that's what i said if you've ever done a drug bust where do you first look when you get into a
house for drugs there we go good question do you start cupboards or you just go no one's gonna
keep it in a cupboard they're gonna keep it somewhere else aren't they when you're following
someone how do you not get caught?
Yeah.
How do you trail them?
Um,
how big has he got them?
No.
Um.
And seriously,
George,
we want some emails from you,
and if those pencil pushers down at City Hall don't like it,
they can have my badge.
They,
um,
somebody hid,
somebody bought an NES Nintendo,
Nintendo Entertainment System,
uh,
cartridge, uh, this week, or or last week or the week before.
It doesn't really matter.
And they found a load of drugs in it.
So someone's been hiding some druggies inside the cartridge.
And when they first bought it, they were like, this is very heavy.
This cartridge is particularly heavy for an NES card.
And instead of just opening it up with a screwdriver, they Googled the normal weight for an NES card.
Just get the screwdriver out
and open it up.
What's the worst going to happen?
What drug was it?
I don't actually know.
It looked quite heavily...
It was either a drug resin,
which is probably heroin.
How did you hear about this?
On Kotaku.com,
which has everything I need
for a balanced video game life.
Along with that other one, that other website you use for this show.
What's it called?
Atlas Obscura.
Tits.
What?
Atlas Obscura.
Atlas Obscura.
But seriously, that's a great email from George, isn't it?
Yeah, well done, George.
We still haven't had another email from Pilot Neil, which disappoints me.
No, we have had something from another pilot.
No, wait.
No, it's a different one.
But we'll keep reading the emails in order, and we'll get there from another pilot. No, wait. No, it's a different one. But we'll keep reading the emails in order,
and we'll get there from another pilot.
A couple more plane-related emails, aren't there,
which is one of our favourite subjects.
Adam from Atlanta.
To further the talks of transporting cocaine on flights,
there was a flight attendant for JetBlue,
a US-based carrier,
who was caught trying to smuggle £60.
You lot can figure that out in stone, of cocaine.
It's a lot.
She was caught because she was selected to be randomly searched.
Rather than being searched, she dropped her carry-on,
kicked off her shoes, and ran down an upward escalator.
While she did escape capture, she surrendered in New York days later.
I can't help but think she simply had something for Pilot Neil,
and this is all just a big misunderstanding.
Oh, Pilot Neil's not involved.
Hee-hee.
That's not right.
I mean, I like the way that she's just thought, you know what, I'm out of here. Yeah, I was likeal's not involved. Hee hee. That's not right. I mean,
I like the way that she's just thought,
you know what,
I'm out of here.
Yeah,
I was like,
fuck this,
I'm done.
Because I would probably say something like,
I'd probably say something like,
oh,
someone must have put that in my bag.
Yeah,
exactly.
Some trickster.
As soon as you start running,
you're out,
you're in trouble.
Yeah.
It's over.
He ends the email by saying,
I did try to get my wife to listen to the show.
After a few minutes,
she asked,
what nonsense is this?
So now whenever I try explaining something from the show,
I have to lead off
with the immortal words.
It was on the British podcast
about nonsense.
Which is fairly accurate.
I mean, I wouldn't be
recounting any of this
to anyone.
No, I'm not offended
by any of this,
to be honest.
Another plane
slash air travel
related email
from Claude.
You don't hear from Claude.
Hello, Claude.
Maybe it's Claude
from The Apprentice.
Remember Claude from The Apprentice? No, I don't Claude. Oh, maybe it's Claude from The Apprentice. Remember Claude
from The Apprentice?
No, I don't.
One of the best ever lines.
You know in The Apprentice
when, do you ever watch it?
You're fired, Sean.
You're fired.
Yeah, so there's an episode
about seven or eight weeks
in or whatever
when there's only about
five of them left
where they do a,
they set up a set
of quite hard-hitting interviews.
Right.
So it's not a challenge,
it's not a task.
Yeah.
They have to prepare
their business plans
and their CVs
and they go and be interviewed
by a lot of Alan Sugar's mates.
And one of them is Claude
and now he's the right-hand man
to Alan Sugar
but he used to just be
the interview guy
and he was so harsh,
it was unbelievable.
Right.
And before he became
a right-hand man,
he was like the highlight
of the series.
He's still quite good now
but that was the real thing.
And it's classic,
there's one scene
and I know it's edited to shit,
but it's still really funny.
This guy comes in.
You know the type of apprentice candidate.
They're all quite cocksure.
Yeah, estate agents.
Yeah, basically.
They are basically estate agents
or car salesmen or whatever, really.
And this guy comes in
full of the joys of spring
thinking he's the big swinging dick.
And he sits down.
And it's probably edited
to make it look like he's sat there for ages,
but he sits there for like five minutes
and Claude's just reading for his CV.
And he just looks up and goes,
it says here on your CV that you get on very well with everyone.
You're not getting on very well with me, are you?
That's class.
There's another way he did it where he just goes to the guy,
this business plan is preposterous.
Please leave.
And the guy doesn't get to say anything.
He just gets him out of there
he has to leave
anyway Claude
business is wank
isn't it
a different Claude
has been in touch
he says hey guys
love the show
been listening from the beginning
I'm also
sorry can I just jump in there
why don't they have
a version of The Apprentice
with
with pilots
no with
you have a faster plane
everyone's dead
you're fired
with Muhammad Al-Fayed
you're fired I think Muhammad Al-Fayed.
You're fired.
I think that joke's been done by some jobbing stand-up.
Shit.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, probably.
You're fired.
No, you're fired.
Yeah.
It works.
No, you're fired.
No, you're fired.
It could go on for years.
It does work.
Claude says,
I'm also a pilot,
and although you seem to have
the aviation correspondent
for the pod sorted,
I thought I would just chip in.
Well, Pilot Neil's gone absent,
so Claude, there might be an opening for you i wanted to send the drink claude said i
wanted to help clarify the maybe he's on a really long haul flight for like three weeks i wanted to
help clarify the cockpit door situation because i hear this stuff all the time and it would be nice
if more people knew how it works basically at my airline and most others as far as i know while the
engines are off essentially before we can push back
and after we've arrived on stand,
if you ask the cabin manager nicely, time permitting,
you can come into the flight deck and say hello.
Obviously, it's often more suitable once we've arrived on stand,
time wasting, so there you go.
It's a nice feeling when we can make a kid's day after a long flight
and even sit in our seat and get a photo.
I hope that clears it up. Keep up the good work.
Well, Donny, you should do this when you're flying out next.
I'm pissed at my mind on EasyJet.
Let's have a go on the steering wheel.
I'll do a loop-the-loop.
Flick all the switches,
like random sort of switches.
Oh, God.
Because there are switches everywhere.
I reckon you could get away with flicking
at least seven before you get thrown out.
And they wouldn't necessarily know which ones they were.
A friend of mine is a pilot,
said that, you know when you see on films
when the pilot's had a heart attack or whatever
and they have to talk someone down,
fly it down.
He said it's so sensitive,
it would be impossible for someone
who's never flown before to do that.
Yeah, hugely.
So I guess they want to grab someone on the plane
who's done a bit of flying before.
Who's on nodding turns.
With modern ballistics. With modern ballistics.
With modern ballistics.
I know, we talked about JetBlue a little earlier,
and I know a marketing executive, or rather actually the head of marketing,
I think, for JetBlue.
I've flown with them before.
They were terrible.
Well, I think they're very good, actually.
Oh, do you?
They're a very progressive company.
Translated into the fact that you've got a friend that works there.
Good point.
But, you know, she's very impressive.
Do you want to do an email?
Do this email from David Golding.
Have you seen it?
All right then.
David Golding.
Batteries, everactives.
I've been listening to your output since the beginning.
I enjoy all the shows.
Keep up the good work.
The current stupidest thing I've heard at Trope on the show
got me thinking about a friend
and the plethora of stupid stuff he used to say and do.
Let me set the scene. 2005. Nick had just passed his driving test we went out for a drive and he
was hurtling towards a speed camera when i said you'd better slow down you'd better slow down nick
pointing at the speed camera that they were approaching now nick isn't the sharpest but
what he did next was hilarious and it's honestly honestly true he said don't worry mate i've got
it covered he then took his hand and placed it over his speedometer
and said, they will never take a picture of it now.
That's unbelievable.
Yeah.
After I'd stopped laughing,
I did try and explain speed equals distance over time,
but he wasn't having any of it.
A week later, when he received the speeding ticket,
though, he asked me to explain it again.
David Golding, excellent work.
David Golding, we can judge a man
on the company he keeps.
You, my friend.
That is something else.
You are the one-eyed king
in the kingdom of the blind.
I've got,
I love that.
I've got,
I've got a really interesting
email here about scurvy.
Do you want to hear it?
Yes, please.
Just changing tack entirely.
Hurt me, daddy.
Nick Chadwick Williams,
a man who
presumably is so posh
he's never even had to
contemplate not having
enough vitamin C
but he says
hearing you chat about
scurvy last week
reminded me of some
of the incredible
and terrifying effects
scurvy can have
I've not personally
witnessed these luckily
five a day etc
by the way I'm no doctor
I have no relevant
qualifications at all
I just read about this
somewhere
I looked it up
and what he's about to say
as far as I can make out
is true
scurvy is the lack of vitamin C.
Vitamin C is necessary for collagen synthesis.
Wounds are essentially stitched up with collagen, which forms scar tissue,
and is also important for healing bones.
So if you've got scurvy, i.e. low vitamin C,
new wounds and broken bones will heal really slowly, or not at all.
But vitamin C is also crucial for collagen maintenance,
since your body is constantly replacing the collagen in scar tissue.
And here's the kicker here, Pete.
If the scurvy is bad enough, old scars can reopen
and bones can start falling apart from old breaks.
That is fucking horrific.
It's like a curse.
It is.
But you can imagine
why people believed in curses
when they were put back in.
Because I'm thinking pirates here.
Are you thinking pirates?
I'm thinking men of the ships.
Yeah.
Merchant sailors.
Different way of saying
what I just said.
Men of the ships.
So if you don't get enough vitamin C
and develop scurvy,
old scars can reopen
and bones can start falling apart
from old breaks.
So the stuff
you thought you'd put behind you oh that this is a story to tell hang on a minute that was four
years ago why is it bleeding again when i was when i was reading this i was thinking imagine if i'd
gone back in time and i had like all the i sort of think about all the knowledge i have now that
i could make money out of in the past so like you, you know, wash your hands, don't drink rotten water,
blah, blah, blah.
Scurvy would be a good one because you'd be like,
oh, I've got a special portion
that I dissolve in orange juice.
Yeah.
I've put all of this,
I've put my medicine
in these oranges
and you've got to eat them.
Some philosophers said
expensive oranges.
I think the problem was
that you couldn't get oranges, right?
That wouldn't work, would it?
No, you can keep oranges,
can't you?
Back in the day,
I don't think they had
ready access to oranges. My granddad even said that in would it? No, you can keep oranges, can't you? Back in the day, I don't think they had ready access
to oranges.
My granddad even
said that in the
Second World War
they couldn't get
oranges.
No, but no one
was nice to Scurvy
at that point.
No, I think they
just didn't know
what was caused
by Scurvy, but
people who ate
oranges didn't have
any.
And I'm saying
rethink your
business plan.
Well, no.
You're fired.
Quickly, some
philosopher or
some anthropologist did say that scientific development in our generation would be indistinguishable from magic from the generation before.
So if you went back now with knowledge like you've got today, I mean, it would be ridiculous.
Should have my freshly lizard armpits.
Yeah, doesn't he say?
Fuck.
Exactly.
That's a great development.
Fucking hell. Is it in Sapiens, the Harari book, where he says,
I think he said an eight-year-old child would be the most intelligent person
however many years ago.
Brilliant.
Because there's so much.
But listen to this.
Here's one for you, following up from the Scurvy email.
Chili peppers, black currants, parsley, kiwis, broccoli, sprouts,
bell peppers, strawberries.
What have they all got in common?
A terrible meal.
It depends.
Well, mixing all... Yeah, you have to use every last one of those ingredients.
It wouldn't be that bad, but sprouts would be great.
All those things, Pete,
have got more vitamin C in them than an orange.
Is that right?
And do you know why that's fascinating to me?
Marketing.
Because oranges are the go-to vitamin C shout
in the UK, at least. If someone says, I've got a cold, get an orange. Fascinating to me. Marketing. Because oranges are the go-to vitamin C shout. Yeah.
In the UK, at least.
If someone says, I've got a cold, get an orange.
Even though vitamin C apparently hasn't been proven to link to recovery from a cold.
You know what, though?
I never used to take vitamin supplements,
but I discovered in boots these chewy little jellies.
Oh, God.
Here we go.
Chewy little jellies.
And now your scars have never looked better.
And I have never looked better.
And I have one every day.
Every day, every two days.
I used to have a cold on average every month to two months. I've not had a cold
touch wood in about five months
now. Four months. It's incredible.
The most recent thinking is that
it's zinc apparently.
Zinc is the one.
Not even vitamin C. Tom Zinc.
Isn't it crazy to think that if you want to get your vitamin C intake,
you're better off with a handful of strawberries than you are an orange?
Yeah, but I mean, strawberries are really expensive, aren't they?
And they're not always great.
Oranges have a better hit rate than strawberries, I think.
Couple of kiwis?
Couple of kiwis.
Got a spoiler in it.
Bit of broccoli?
Do you like broccoli?
Yeah, I like broccoli.
I like every well-prepared vegetable.
And I guess the problem with chili peppers
is going to be that you're going to have to get
quite a few of them down you,
and they're going to be quite uncomfortable to eat.
There we go.
Oh, well, there you go.
Love your job.
Do you want one final email?
Yeah, let's round it off with a final email.
Why don't you do it?
No, we don't want...
Okay, well, hello to Bo Bedingfield.
Great name.
I've got to get through this. Great name. I've got to get through this.
I've got to get through this.
This is just a weird kind of scene
that you'd expect in, like, a film or something.
Hi, Luke and Pete.
I am 36.
Going through old episodes,
the Tam Am Shud case reminded me of a much less interesting
but still baffling unsolved case from my own life
you might find interesting.
Well, we'll be the judge of that. Around the year year 2000 i was 18 and playing in a mediocre rock band we were
driving on from a gig through the absolutely middle of norway in rural georgia we stopped
at a 24-hour gas station that we were shocked to find in a really remote remote location we
gassed up got some junk food and we were nearly ready to leave the rest of our bandmates were
back in the van as our drummer and I smoked cigarettes and drank coffee on the curb.
It was between 3 and 4 a.m., so we were shocked to see a Buick LeSabre,
yeah, Buick LeSabre, which is like a classic grandparents' car back in the day,
pull into the parking lot.
In the car was a Caucasian couple who I pegged to be in their mid-70s.
The couple parked in front of the store but made no move to exit the car until,
look at this, moments later,
a black van with no rear windows pulled in
and parked two spaces beside them.
From the black van emerged three immaculately dressed men
with Asian features I took to be Japanese.
This was a highly educated guess
based on my immense experience with Japanese culture
from that one time I was eight and my family was an exchange student from Kyoto.
The men from the van were clearly wearing black suits, crisp white shirts and no ties.
They helped the elderly man out of the Buick, though he did not seem to need assistance.
The elderly man waved at the woman, she waved back, and then the men from the van helped the elderly man into the side of the van.
After that, both vehicles left the parking lot heading in different directions for years now
i've sought an explanation for years i've come up with nothing plausible before you say posh airport
shuttle there was no luggage and why a van with three attendants rather than a limo or a town car
i would love to hear if you or your listeners have experienced similar minor mysteries it is a
mystery that that is, isn't it?
I read the email earlier.
I couldn't think of why that would be happening.
I would love listeners to get...
It's like something out of Fargo.
It really is.
I would love listeners to get in touch and give us their theories.
Hello at LukeandPeach.com.
Bo Bediff is a great name.
It's such a good name that I googled it,
and I found out that his band are called The Wide Ls.
The Wide Ls?
And they're from...
Aren't they fairly well known, The Wide Ls? No, the Widells the Widells and they're from aren't they fairly
well known the
Widells
no
I'm not aware of
them
they're from
Athens Georgia
though
keeping up that
tradition of great
bands from Athens
Neutral Milk Hotel
REM
Olivia Tremor Control
all those lot
good stuff
are they doing
Neutral Milk Hotel
doing that album
I think they're doing
an album version
live version of them
doing the
Airplane Over Sea album.
I've seen that live.
I've seen that done live.
I think it was done at an Automotive Parties.
And the guy, the main guy in Nutri-Muk Hotel
is a very reclusive, quite odd character.
And when I went to see them, or see him, I guess,
it was, I've never seen,
I think it might have even been listed as Jeff Mangum
and not Nutri-Muk Hotel.
He's the main guy
I've never seen
somebody sign saying
do not take
any photos
really
if you do
you're out of here
wow
he was very very
particular about that
but I really enjoyed
watching him
he did two sets
that weekend I believe
Athens Georgia
bustling
it used to be
traditionally a very
very very rich
music scene
but if you can
get an aeroplane
over the sea
classic rendition
right there
I mean
it's up there
with it been
it been
it's been
it been
but if you can
solve that
Bo Beddingfield
mystery
the Bo Beddingfield
mysteries
the Bo Beddingfield
mysteries
it's hello
at lukeandpete
show.com
with your theories
we'd love to hear
from them
also pilot
Neil get in touch
we're getting a bit
worried
a bit worried
about you pal go off the's gone off the radar.
Go to flight24.co.uk
and find out where he is.
Flightradar.com.
There's nothing bad to happen.
He's probably just having
a bit of time off.
Probably fancy another podcast.
Yeah, I would.
I would.
Gimlet put something new out.
He's probably listening to that.
Gimlet.
Like everyone else.
You're obsessed with Gimlet.
Good.
Bloody good stuff.
Gimlet reminds me of the word
giblet, though,
and it just makes me think
of bits of body. The only... Well, a vodka gimlet reminds me of the word giblet though and it just makes me think of bits of body
the only
well a vodka gimlet
is also a cocktail
the only podcast
I like listening to
are of course
Radio Stakhanov podcast
I think so
from abroad in Japan
to wrestle me
there are other podcasts
that I'm not involved in
yeah
I'm not on
listen to them all
Berkhamstead Revisited
Radio Stakhanov.com
that's about it
from us isn't it
Peter
I'm going to eat
my banana
yeah get your
banana
get yourself on
that plane out
to wherever it is
you're going
come back safe
guess what
Japanese for
banana is
banana
is it really
yeah
is it like in
France when they
have the sort of
more modern words
that come through
are just
they're sort of
universal
it's like homogenised
like the internet
why banana is
banana and apple is like a ringo I don't understand why that's the case they're sort of universal. It's a homogenised, like, lean to net. Why banana is banana
and apple is a ringo?
I don't understand
why that's the case.
Maybe I can find it
on the Broad and Japan podcast
that we also do.
You're the expert, Peter.
You are the expert.
I am the expert.
Good, finally.
Someone admits it.
I've realised we missed out
on an email that I wanted to do
and I've got an anecdote about it.
Mate,
we'll put it in the box.
I will do.
I've got a box of emails
we don't get through and we'll pile through it next time. It's from Pete from Wrexham. Pete, if you're still listening mate we'll put it in the box I will do I've got a box of emails we don't get through
and we'll pile through it next time
it's from Pete from Wrexham
Pete if you're still listening
we'll get to there at some point
mate we apologise
hold tight Pete from Wrexham
if you want to get to the show
hello at lutenpeetshow.com
baby's off to have his banana
yes
and we'll be seeing you
on Thursday
bye
goodbye you on Thursday. Bye! Goodbye!