The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 92: Never arm-wrestle an actor

Episode Date: August 23, 2018

This time around, we hear from a listener who became involved in an ill-advised tete-a-tete with The Shield's Kenny Johnson, with quite spectacular results, learn of the tallest free-standing structure in the UK (Hint: It's not in London), and marvel at a truly horrific tree surgery injury.Meanwhile, there's Tony Hawk, storm chasing, frontmen with the best mic skills and much, much more. All packed into a commuting-friendly half hour. What more can you ask for, eh?To get in touch: [e-mail]: This show contains Pete Donaldson's robust views on the Channel Islands. ***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I got this for free from my dad's work. It is the Luke and Pete show. I'm Pete Donaldson. I'm joined by Luke Miller. Hello. I always start this show. I know. You should sometimes.

You're the traditional. Mix it up, mate. You're the one with the best hosting skills, I think. Mix it up, mate. I'm. You should sometimes. You're the traditional, you're the one with the best hosting skills. Mix it up, mate. I'm more reactive than proactive.

We're talking about the party that I DJ'd a few weeks ago now. No, it was on Monday, wasn't it? Yeah, on Monday,

sure, but I DJ'd a while ago. There was a magician there. Now, I don't like close-up magicians. I don't like

magicians. They are professional liars. I hate being tricked. I think it's bullshit. And I think anybody who practices in their bedroom and their magic tricks are weird. Of course, I don't think that.

I'm just saying it for effect. Did you notice that the way, and I'm not saying, I'm not passing personal judgment on this. It's just more of a statement of what I've observed, is that at some point in the recent past, magicians had to become like urban. Yeah, yeah.

Lest they be... Baseball caps. Accused of being paedophiles, basically. No, it's because they dress like what you would imagine a paedophile would dress like. That's what I'm saying. Like someone wearing flashy clothes. They wanted to put clear blue water between them and the paedophile scene. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. And the paedophile scene caught up with them. Well, no, because David Blaine, Dynamo, all the big names, they're all urban, aren't they? Yeah. But then, you know. There you go. Carry on.

What were you going to say? Well, this guy was doing some genuinely amazing stuff. Like, you know, he put in people's wedding rings on his key ring in his back pocket. He went up to one girl and and went what's your favorite film and she and and she um i can't remember she told him i didn't tell him either way well no well no because he went right go to my instagram page and he went uh and and he told every film in history and the instagram page uh that he went to was, he said, got on my Instagram page,

so she looked for him on Instagram, found him, and in his profile it said, hello, my name is, insert magician's name, and my favourite film is Romeo and Juliet, and that was the film that was her favourite film. Wow. Which is incredible. I mean, it's not the biggest film you'd ever imagine.

No, it's not at all, no. Isn't that fascinating? Did they say which version of Romeo and Juliet, or was that too specific? Was it the Baz Luhrmann version? Yeah, I believe it was Baz Luhrmann. Brackets, Baz Luhrmann. Brackets, West Coast Street.

But I wanted to be like, because he was working the room, I was thinking, what's to stop me going around and working the room as well? What's to stop me being the centre of attention as well? No, but if I go around

being like a bad magician the day after some people half the room would be going he's definitely a paedophile no wasn't that magician brilliant

and half the room would be going no he was fucking dreadful oh yeah see what you mean because I want to go up to people and go

right I bet I can guess what you've got in your glass vodka or gin and just put my fingers in it lick it

and go hmm it's gin yeah that would be funny I mean it would also be a really fast way of ruining someone's livelihood

yeah I don't think I'd get well yeah that's exactly right you're supposed to be friend of the workers you are magic you're out of it mate

yeah no magician's union just a magic circle nice to see your magic up a salary now pal so generally were you in favour of

his magic tricks or well he was one of the urban ones he was one of the fresh ones the new ones he was using social media for crying out loud there's a couple of them

on social media these videos where you think that must be a camera trick that must be a well everything's a trick isn't it it's just how they do it one of the ones I saw

the guy literally walks into like a Sainsbury's local and there's a load of bottles of whatever seven up on the shelf and he just touches one of them and it transforms instantly into like a bottle of bottles of whatever seven up on the shelf. He just touches one of them and it transforms instantly into a bottle of Coke. Is that that kind of Asian-American kid

who is an editor? He edits stuff. He's like a Vine star back in the day. He's a really good editor of stuff. He does look magic, but it's very much... No point asking me, man. I'm 37. Computer magic. He does look magic, but I mean, it's very much. No point asking me, man, I'm 37. Computer magic.

You lost me at Vine, I'm afraid. I had a tree surgeon in the house, not the house, that wasn't the house, in the back garden. It was actually in the garden opposite me, but the tree was affecting both of our gardens.

Right. And he was amazing. He was really good. And he jumped around the tree, like a massive tree, like a little monkey, and did all the business. And I was fascinated by how good he was.. He was really good. And he jumped around the tree, like a massive tree, like a little monkey and did all the business. And I was fascinated

by how good he was. Quite a young guy. And he would jump around with this chainsaw on a rope. I think I saw the picture. Yeah. And I said to him, I don't know if I told you this,

I said to him, well, I paid him at the end. I said, oh, how long have you been doing it? And he said, I said, you're obviously pretty good. And he said, I've been doing it since I left school, that 10, 15 years or end. I said, oh, how long have you been doing it and stuff? He said, you're obviously pretty good. And he said, I've been doing it since I left school,

10, 15 years or something. I said, have you ever fallen out of a tree? And he said, I've never fallen out of a tree, but check this out. Rolled his leg up. No, his leg up rolled his trouser leg up. Right. Because they wear these Kevlar trousers, right?

Oh, so the... Protected trousers. Oh, really? And he rolled it up. And I'm not joking, Pete. I would have taken a photo of it to show you, but it would have been inappropriate. Like half his calf was missing.

Oh, chainsaw. And I said, what happened? He said, well, I'll tell you. I was on the way to work. A mate of mine calls me and says, do you mind terribly bringing your chainsaw over and just pruning this tree? It's not that big.

It won't take you five minutes. I'll buy you a beer type thing. And he's like, yeah, yeah, fine. So on the way into work, he did that. He saw the tree. It's not that big. It won't take you five minutes. I'll buy you a beer type thing. And he was like, yeah, yeah, fine. So on the way into work, he did that. He saw the tree. It's small.

So he didn't even bother getting changed. Grabbed his chainsaw, jumped up onto one branch, not that far off the ground, started, um, started using it and it slipped and basically cut through almost his entire leg. Whoa.

And he had to jump down one leg, hold it, tie a t-shirt, tie a t-shirt around it. Anyway, to cut a long story short. To cut a long leg short. Yeah, he was in hospital for weeks.

He had to have several skin grafts. He was saying stuff like he had to have part of a vein removed from another part of his other leg to repair it.

And he's very lucky not to lose the leg. Yeah. And this was only about, I think it was only about nine, ten months ago or something like that.

I know. I was like, all right. Get your Kevlar trousers on, mate something like that I know I was like alright get your Kevlar trousers on mate have a good day and he showed me the Kevlar trousers he was wearing that day and they've got little marks all over them

oh where he's like so he has just caught I guess oh that's horrible I don't like to hear that at all to be honest a friend a friend got

run over by a car once and he got pinned to a wall with his car and his leg is fucked like proper just fucked because he walked with a limp A friend got run over by a car once. He got pinned to a wall with his car, and his leg is fucked. Really? Like, proper just fucked.

Is he what, with a limp? No, no, he's all right. It's just weird what the leg can withstand. The human body is an amazing thing, isn't it? What? It's incredible. It is very, very good. So what else has been floating in your body? See that woman who had reconstructive surgery

or a face transplant? Yes, I did see that. She shot herself in the face. I mean, it must have been a shotgun, because that's not a... Oh, I didn't realise that was how it happened. Well, she shot herself in the face. Right.

So she had somebody else's face grafted on. And, you know, she's got a face now with massive eye problems, but she's got her face now. But to make such a mess of a face with one shot, I think it would probably have to have been a shotgun. Incredible. But it's amazing what surgeons been a shotgun incredible but it's amazing what surgeons can do

oh it's amazing it happened with that woman who had her face ripped off by a chimp didn't it as well a few years ago

on slightly more hopefully cheerful news did you hear about this thing that happened in Guernsey no

I was thinking about Jersey and Danny Cipriani so there's a woman called I didn't hear about that maybe you can tell about that in a minute some nightclub outside no I was thinking about Jersey and Danny Cipriani so there's a woman called I didn't hear about that maybe you can tell

about that in a minute some nightclub I don't know the rugby player yeah this is in Guernsey who did he used to go out with famous

Charlotte Church yes it was wasn't it and maybe Kelly Brook yeah sounds right sounds alright Miss Henderson this woman who lives in Guernsey

in St Peter Port which I think is the main town there she was against right yeah sounds all right um miss henderson this woman who lives in guernsey in st peter port which i think is the main town there um she was against um council plans to narrow a road right but she found that she couldn't stop it so what she did oh yeah she evoked a feudal law called clamor de harrow um and raising a clamor apparently stretches back to the early norman period in the Channel Islands. It's thought to be a plea to Rollo, the first Duke of Normandy,

right? Uh, what you have to do, apparently, because she basically thought that the narrowing of the road would endanger pedestrians and motorists. So she, um,

raised the clamor as it's called by reciting in French, um, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow,

Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow,

Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow,

Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Harrow, Haro, haro, haro, a laid mon prince on me faitor, which translates to,

come to my aid, my prince, for someone does me wrong, followed by the Lord's Prayer in French. And the Lord dates back to the 10th century as a form of self-policing because there was no law enforcement there. And there's a picture of her in a floral summer dress on her knees

in a building site, reciting the Lord's prayer in french she's uh i mean that loophole is instantly going to be closed isn't it so when people say to you in a pub you know sometimes um you'll be in a say you're going to a birthday party in a pub it's a friend of a friend another guy who you've never met come over and it is always a guy and they come over and they go hey uh are you uh pete pete donaldson yeah good to meet you yeah did you know that uh you can actually uh actually shoot a Welshman on a Sunday using a crossbow from 40 yards and it's never been overturned as a law

and you'd get away with it? You know, that's how a pub bore. You can put your sheep on a bridge or something. Yeah, I didn't think that was real. But in this case, it actually is. Because it's the Channel Islands and they are backwards. Well, that's going down well. That's not going to go down well. They are backwards. Even the people on the Channel Islands know that they are backwards. Well, that's going down well. That's not going to go down well.

They are backwards. Even the people on the Channel Islands know that they're backwards. We're going to get complaints about that. Now, look. Look, I went out with a girl from Jersey and it is Daily Mail Island. It's Daily Mail Island. So, when people are done... Everyone, if you don't work in a bank, you're a fascist.

You're an old fascist. When people are done complaining about your treatment of gerbils, they're going to start complaining about this. You go to that war museum that's in Jersey, and it's basically the story of a load of neighbourhoods just telling tales on each other to the Nazis. That person's got a quartz radio kit. Literally execute him.

Literally execute Dave down the road, because he's got a fucking quartz radio. Daily Mail Island, sink them. Sink the whole thing. I know what I'm naming this episode now. Hello at LukeandPeach.com if you are a native

of the Channel Islands and you take issue with Pete Donaldson's rampant intolerance. The only computers they have are connected to the banking system.

You sound like Alan Partridge when he's talking about farmers. That's what you sound like. I'm not even going to put a caveat to that. I'm joking. I'm not even going to put a caveat there. I'm joking.

I don't care. Come at me, Jersey. Are you trying to scuttle this ship on purpose? Come at me, Danny Cipriani on Jersey in La Rue Audonne. Actually, that was where my ex-girlfriend used to live. St. Helier, I mean. St. Helier. What would Graham Lassau say about this?

What would Graham Lassau? What would Matt Letizia say about this? Matt Letizia is Guernsey, isn't he? Yes. And Lassau... I don't know. I'll look it up,ia is Guernsey isn't he yes and LeSore I don't know I'll look it up Guernsey as well so you're just

talking about Jersey are you maybe I'm just talking about Jersey I've never been I must admit I've never been to Guernsey

the only way to get there is on a fly B flight where they don't have they don't have what are the engines that are like turbines

not turbines jet engines rather than they've only got open propellers I don't like it Graham LeSore that are like turbines, not turbines, jet engines, rather than, they've only got open, like, they've only got open, propellers, I don't like it.

Graham, as I was from St Helier, in Jersey, I've worked with Graham, a few times, a lovely fellow, it's one person, I went out with a girl,

who's quite lovely, so, you know, so why are you doing this? Why must you be like this? Her family were very nice, good, good good well there was

her sister went out with I think married in the end a bloke who was a he had congenital

birth defect he didn't have most of his right leg and no ankle and therefore no foot so who are you

talking about sorry my ex used to who came from Jersey right she used to her sister she got with

and then eventually married a guy who had no right leg to the knee I think and no foot on the left and I think he was missing part of his arm as well

okay so he used to get a lot of work as basically like a stuntman he's a karate teacher incredible. So he used to get a lot of work as basically like a stuntman. He's a karate teacher. Incredible. Right. And he used to get a lot of work like in films where people's arms and legs would get blown off.

Another man from Jersey that you like and respect by the sound of it. I don't think he was even from Jersey to be honest. So that's where you got on well. Yeah. That's why. Yeah. Okay. I could reminisce about the mainland.

Peter, you're going to be in so much trouble for this. It's too close to France to be regarded as being our possession. Give it to them. Shall we go to the emails after the break? Because I've got an email from someone from another island off the coast of the UK. So the first step is to find the right position for you. Put your hands down and lower your chest to the ground. Just do that and pretend that you're holding pooping and it should sound a lot like this that's that lad who can suck

air through his bum like you make a bum pump like you famously when you're a boy when i was a boy i think um like the harvest i'd have more pumps. Can I just say, my imagery of your childhood is now so rich that I've currently got this image in my head of you upstairs in your bedroom with that thing your dad bought you as a mask on. I was kind of like Ben. On your hands and knees, sucking air through pumps. Yeah, sucking air through the

machine. Doing pumps while my dad executes a gerbil from behind. While the gerbil's hanging

from the tank while there's a coal truck smashed into the downstairs living room. Yeah. And your dad's

mate's trying to sell you fish from outside the sewage pipe. And your poor long-suffering mother is thinking how did it

come to this? She's the worst one. She's my least favourite as well. That's what she gets. In a way, this show is all about the rich history of your upbringing, Donaldson. Anyway, before the ad break, I did promise an email from someone

from an island off the coast of the UK, and I'm delighted to say, we've heard again from Richard Cook of the Western Isles of Scotland. Oh,'ve heard again from richard cook of the western isles of scotland oh hello richard cook of the yeah he says hello i've been meaning to send this email for a while over various shows you've spoken about extreme weather i suppose we have i'm a big weather geek and i have been all of my life and two notable events that happened in the usa with tornadoes were the Greensburg tornado in 2007,

which wiped the town completely off the map. And the tornado was so powerful, it carried the McDonald's sign 11 miles down the road. That's like a big game of horseshoe. Probably like Al Donald's by the end of it. In 2013, the El Reno tornado in Oklahoma had winds of over 300 miles an hour and its peak was 2.6 miles wide. Try to fathom that kind of size and speed.

I mean, 2.6 miles wide is, I mean, that's an incredible distance for a storm, isn't it? For a tornado. He actually goes on to say, I've been out chasing in the USA myself four times and seen 13 tornadoes, including seven, in one evening outside La Crosse in Kansas, a very small town which in

its wikipedia entry includes notable events in the town um uh including a tornado outbreak and also being home to the barbed wire museum and i think that's that's actually barbed wire not the pamela anderson don't call me babe yeah yeah was that barbed wire barbed wire barbed wire was her name barb in that film it was barb name was Barbara, yeah. Dreadful. Yeah. Yeah, it's a big old place, America, isn't it? Every bloke of our age watched that for very specific reasons. I don't think I've ever seen it, to be honest.

Maybe I wasn't a Pammy fan. I like the fact that storm chasers, like all that kind of people who kind of chase Twisters and stuff, it's really funny because they'll just run after something and then if they get too close they're like run away do you remember the Bill Paxton vehicle

Twister yes I do saw that at the cinema great movie from memory haven't seen it since I don't think it is a great movie is it not I really liked it at the time

was it the big movie was it the big break that Bill Paxton got after Aliens that movie no hadn't he done Independence Day before Twister maybe yeah but Aliens was movie no hadn't he done Independence Day before Twister

oh maybe yeah but Aliens was his breakthrough wasn't it I can't remember I don't think I've ever seen Aliens or Alien 3 I don't think I've

ever seen the original I've never seen Aliens they come at night mostly it's still in my cultural touchstone saying they come at night mostly

because because we found out and also we found out the girl who plays Newt in that the girl you're talking about, never did another film with. Never worked again. It's not like she never worked again.

She probably got another job. She probably just didn't do another film again. When you said that we had an email from someone off the coast of the UK, I thought you meant James from Australia. Oh, yeah. James says, dear good fellows, your lack of a term for the toy mini skateboards, they're called tech decks.

Oh, that rings a bell, yeah. Of course they're called tech decks oh they're called tech decks these little humdingers help many high school kid avoid boredom and going insane during maths class class class um and he's uh attached a load of pictures of the tech decks and and one of the promo pictures really makes me laugh because it's a man an older man than you'd expect um on a skateboard going around the corner also using a tech deck skateboard on a wall as he's going round the corner on an actual skateboard

wow that's brilliant how old are we talking it's a static picture how old is he he looks about 35 he looks about our age right a man way too old

to be playing with a tech deck or being on a skateboard yeah the more you say tech deck the more it's familiar to me tech deck yeah but it's just they had little like screwdrivers

and spare wheels he could put on. So strange. If I said that I think Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 is one of the best video games ever would you call me

a basic bitch again? No I wouldn't. I think it's I'd put more hours into that than probably any of the Fallout games to be honest which are notably

long winded. Soundtrack to Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 was epic as well. You probably only like the kind of the rap metal songs. I really like that song because I'd never really heard

of that sort of music you liked before at that point because I was at uni. Yeah. And what's that one? Here I am, going on for what I am. Goldfinger.

Yeah, it's class. Great tune. Superman. Yeah, love it. Famous vegans. Were they really? I think so. Were they straight edge?

No, I don't think they were straight edge. I think he was either a vegan. Yeah, I think he. Were they straight edge? No, I don't think they were straight edge. I think he was either a vegan. Yeah, I think he was a vegan. He did a couple of songs. He did one song called Open Your Eyes, or Open Your Mind,

which is all about not eating meat. But the best song from that soundtrack is Miss 16th by Flagwagon. So there we go. Even though it's a rip-off of a Who Did Addicted to Love, Robert Palmer. Good stuff, Pete. That's great stuff. Good stuff.

There is a version of, it's a fan-created version of Tony Hawk where they've taken all of the levels from pretty much every Tony Hawk and put it all in one game. And you can play it online with other people. You can do all of the things you can do in every Tony Hawk,

in the later Tony Hawks that added extra features in old levels and they've updated some of the graphics and stuff. And I think it's called Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Pro where they've basically just taken a later version of Tony Hawk's and put all of the old levels into there. And because it's

an old game put into a new engine the levels load really quickly and it's wonderful. And I need to download it quickly because it'll probably be taken down soon. Activision have deep pockets. That does sound really good. In my mind I don't know if this is helpful or not, but in my mind

Tony Hawk's face is completely interchangeable with Lance Armstrong's. Similar sort of discipline I suppose. Tony Hawk famously made, like, rescued his career. He made so much money. I think he spoke about meeting

with a representative from video game, from the video game side of things, from Activision. Yeah. Or Neversoft or whoever. He sat down with him for lunch and the guy just pushed a check for three million pounds over

three million dollars over the other side of the he's never sort of said how much money he made out of it but that was just you know half a year's amount

of money he was given for Tony Hawk's I'd probably buy the lunch I'll pick this one up yeah have you seen that documentary movie

All This Mayhem about the Pappas brothers no Tony Hawk's in that, actually. Is he? Right, okay. It's brilliant.

It's about two, I think they're Australian. No, they might be American. I can't remember. Two young brothers, skateboarders, brilliantly talented. And they go to, I think they go to LA or whatever. And their lives slowly unravel in a ridiculous way to the point where you think this can't be real. It's worth watching.

It's called All This Mayhem. Skateboarders always look like they're having a lot of fun. Like pro skateboarders and stuff. These guys weren't. Pete, I'm going to ask you a question, and I'm going to hope that you haven't seen the email I'm about to read. Okay. What do you think is the tallest freestanding structure in the UK?

I didn't put this email in because I thought it was a bit dull. What? This is gold. This is Jared Mulligan's email. It's gold. Jared Mulligan. structure in the UK? I didn't put this email in because I thought it was a bit... What? Dull. This is gold. This is Jared Mulligan's email. He's gold. Jared Mulligan. Okay, so no one at home.

I like to think if you're listening to this, you don't know the answer to that question because the tallest freestanding structure in the UK is in Huddersfield

and you've probably never heard of it. Jared Mulligan takes up the story via me because we didn't mic him up or anything um he says hello to luke and the peaks i've been listening to old episodes of the pod and i work night shift um and recently came back across the episode involving the collapse of the pontiac silver dome roof due to heavy snowfall i would like to bring your

attention to a similar situation a lot closer to home. Now, many of your listeners may be surprised to hear that the tallest freestanding structure in the UK is not in London, but in fact in quite little old Huddersfield town. Emily Moore Mast. Had you heard of that, Pete? No, I hadn't. I hadn't either. It's commonplace among the West Yorkshire skyline,

currently sitting at a massive 330 metres tall, which, by the way, makes it the 24th tallest tower in the world and um as as of the 19th of march 1969 um the second iteration of the mast which was even taller with a height of 386 meters um collapsed hence it's now at 330 meters this was caused by the weight of icicles that are formed on the tower with one of the cables holding up the not freestanding structure completely ripping a church in half um thankfully nobody was hurt during the incident but left the bemused engineer working that shift in shock um the current 330 meter tower is six meters taller than the eiffel tower which at the top um shows all the tallest buildings around the world um but for the uk uses the shard which is smaller

which i'll still hold as propaganda from the French. So basically, what he's saying there, and the way I poorly read that, is that it should really be the Emily Moore mast that is used instead of the Shard in all those little graphics you see in the back of Sunday newspapers. So there you go.

The Emily Moore mast is the tallest freestanding structure in the UK. All right. How did that go? I like it. I'm fascinated by that. I don't understand what your problem is. I just think over 10 foot, it's really hard to kind of imagine things.

Because you don't get a perspective. You just don't get a perspective. It's just like... But have you ever been to a... When somebody filmed me bungee jumping, I was very unimpressed with how shit it looked. You know what I mean? Because I was bricking it, and it was scary and exciting and exhilarating. How high were you, though?

You were only up a crane, weren't you? Say again? You were only up a crane. I was only up a crane, yep. It still has to be high enough for me to be able to bungee jump. It was pretty high. It was like 100 foot or something.

I don't fucking know how tall it was, but it was very tall. Tallest I've ever jumped off anything. You do realise that there's a big difference between 100 feet and essentially 1,200 feet. No, I really think there isn't. Right, Daniel. Hello, Daniel.

A big fan of the show. Thanks, Daniel. I thought it was about time I emailed you seeing as I live close by to Luke. I'm in lovely Penge, apparently. All right, yeah. Back in July, my girlfriend, friend Steve, and I decided to have a road trip

to the Comic-Con in sunny Birmingham. As you know, these shows have quite a few TV and film celebrities, and a work colleague of mine asked if I wanted to go and see Kenny Johnson. He's a man who's been in The Shield, Bits, Motel, Sons of Anarchy, and currently in SWAT on Sky. Of course, this being no problem, I went to see him first thing Sunday morning, a wonderfully delightful chap.

He was happy to personalise the autograph and chat to me a bit about football and sports. I shook his hand and left. I sent a picture to my colleague who was over the moon and asked if it was no problem. Could I get one for her boyfriend? Again, this was no problem.

As I approached Kenny, he noticed me and said, hey, you're back already. How about an arm wrestle this time? Wow, brilliant. A weird request, I thought, but never wanting to back out of a challenge, I obliged.

We set up, took the strain and he immediately won. Now, at the time time i heard a huge pop in my elbow and to cut a long story short he won with such force that my bicep tendon tore and snapped my bicep muscle essentially was loose and hanging under my armpit as you guessed i left the show straight away drove back to sunny croydon where they told me this is a very serious injury and surgery was needed immediately. The surgery basically involved cutting my arm open,

pulling my severed tendon back into place, fixing my bicep back into place and then drilling into my forearm bone to attach the tendon to its closest possible point. I have that within the week and now face a year-long recovery time

to gain full use of my arm again. I googled Kenny Johnson once I was okay again and found out that he's an ex-arm wrestling champion. Oh my God. Kenny Johnson needs to be more responsible with his weapons. I have been in touch with him since and he was devastated he hurt me this bad.

And I imagine if I was an American gentleman, I would be contacting my attorney. Physical therapy is going well and I can nearly rotate my arm again. I'll include a few pictures. Keep up the good work, guys. Love the show. Kind regards, Daniel. I was working backwards on the email, so the first email I saw from Daniel was just a load of operation pictures

and bloodied scars going, here are my pictures with no message attached. I was like, what the fuck is this about, Daniel? But yeah, surely the Comic-Con in Birmingham's insurance does not include arm wrestles. You're not allowed to arm wrestle punters, surely. I mean, it's quite irresponsible from Kenny Johnson

knowing that he was an arm wrestling champion and just grabbing some guy who I presume, with the greatest respect of Daniel, isn't an athletic chap of that level. I think that's poor. What do the photos look like, Pete? Just a lot of

a rather miffed looking chap with a load of scars. I mean, pretty tidy scars to be honest. It's a big job that, isn't it?

Anything like that. I started working out a little bit and my elbow that I broke when I was about 11, 12. Oh, you've got a scar

for that as well, haven't you? Still got a scar for that. It's still very visible because the knobble on my elbow that I broke when I was about 11, 12. Oh, you've got a scar for that as well, haven't you? Still got a scar for that. It's still very visible because the knobble on my elbow started floating down my arm after I tried to do a Jürgen Klinsmann dive. Oh, an astroturf, wasn't it?

It still hurts. No, it was on the Burn Valley. It was in the Burn Valley area. Was it? Whenever I do shoulders or anything, I can still feel it clicking. Yeah. Even now.

Yeah. Because I didn't do my physio. No. Did not do my physio. Didn't do my physio. At least Daniel's got a good story to tell. I mean, he's going to be in the position in a couple of years where he's going to want people to ask him how it happened. Yeah, but that guy's not quite as well known.

If it was like Benedict Cumberbatch or something. Or The Rock. Yeah. I mean, that would be brilliant if it was The Rock, wouldn't it? We should have an arm wrestle. We should have an arm wrestle on the show. I'd like to see Kenny Johnson take on someone his own size. Thank you very much.

The thing is, I googled him as well. He's not that big. He's not that big. He's not that big. He looks like a normal-sized dude. I think you're probably bigger than him. He's also 55. Is he? Wow.

Fair dues. He's from New Haven, Connecticut. But he was raised in Wethersfield, Vermont. Home of arm wrestling. Interestingly enough, he also attended Central Connecticut State University, where my wife studied for her master's. It's a small world. I remember watching... Stay away where my wife studied for her Masters. So it's a small world. I remember watching...

Stay away from my wife's arms. I remember being in New Orleans watching one of the many bands that play in Bourbon Street every night. On the Arc of Bar. On the what? That's what they call it, isn't it? What, the Arc of Bar?

Yeah. Which is like a big street with a lot of bars. Yeah, a big thing, yeah. Where you can get hand grenade drinks and stuff. The only reason I know that, by the way, is because Japan Droids, who are one of my favourite bands did a record

their most recent record and it's essentially a sort of loosely based concept album on New Orleans and the central song is called Ark of Bar ah ok

well I remember watching this one of the bands play Uptown Funk for the 50th fucking time I don't believe me just watch

and the guy who is the lead singer had no interest in singing with his band i mean he would pop on and on the mic and sing uh but he was mainly um while he was singing just watching on the television to his left this arm wrestling championship great he was so distracted he was just so not into it he would be watching the arm wrestling championship but when he had to go and sing uh his line he would run over and uh and sing his line and go be watching the arm wrestling championship but when he had to go and sing his line he would run over and sing his line and go back to the arm wrestling championship

he was so into it I always used to get anxious when I used to first go watch in bands where I don't know why it's hard to explain but on that sort of

on that sort of thread where the vocalist would be really sort of relaxed and laissez faire about whether they were going to get to the mic in time to sing

and I'd be like you're not going to make it you're not going to get there in time. They'll be running off doing the same cast. And they always do. I saw the guy from The National. Bryce, what's his name? I think he might be.

Bryce Destner, is it? Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a sort of private jet, doesn't it? Oh, I'll come over on a Bryce Destner. Definitely. On a really nice car. Yeah.

He went out. He had this really long XLRner. Definitely. On a really nice car. Yeah, he went out. He had this really long XLR cable. He didn't have a wireless mic. I love the way you've identified the cable type. Well, he just had a ridiculously long XLR cable. Like this thing, right? Yeah, that's basically what you're talking about there. But he managed to sort of, I think he's a bit of a drinker.

But he wasn't this animated at ATP, let's make that very clear. And he wasn't that pissed. But he actually walked out into the crowd, into the main arena, went to a bar, still connected to a microphone, still singing, ordered himself a sagres,

and then managed to make it back in time to finish the set. Brilliant. I think he was drunk. Yeah, Mike... But still could perform. Incredible. This is a nice subject. could perform incredible this is a nice subject Mike skills I reckon for my money

and I've been to a few gigs over the years in my money Cedric Bixler about the drive-ins Mike skills are the best does he swing the mic around

mate I've seen him swing it around on a big so he lets the load of the flex go out so he's swinging it on a big sort of what would you call it

circumference diameter or whatever swing it up in the air back heel he's swinging it on a big sort of, what would you call it? Circumference, diameter or whatever. Swing it up in the air, backheel it, and catch it on his other hand and start singing it all in perfect time. That's pretty good. And for those of you who don't know much about their work.

Is the XLR collection reinforced with gaffer tape? He's probably got his own premium level cable. Connector. But if you're not familiar with At The Drive-Ins work, just type in At The Drive-In Jules Holland on, into YouTube

and you'll see exactly what I mean. Chaos. Absolute chaos. The guy from Tate Maxon is quite good at that as well. Is he really? I'm sure there are loads of them

because you do it all the time. What I like about him is that he reinforces his cable connection with gaffer tape so it doesn't become unfurled at any moment.

That's important. Time for one more quick email, I think, on a musical theme as well. And this one's from Ewan in Aberdeen who says, I enjoyed hearing you speak

about one of my favourite albums recently, Spiritualised, Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space. Do you remember that, Pete? Yep. Where they

spiritualised Jason Pearce released the album, the version of the CD and it was like, they call it a blisterd and it was like they call it a blister pack but it was essentially stylized as a big paracetamol you have to peel the foil off to get the cd out and i think it cost them a lot of money and the and the inlay card was like dosage

instructions yeah it was back in the day when people were creative with their packaging before before um online and downloads and that kind of stuff um ewan says in addition to the limited edition version of the CD, which you talked about, encasing the paracetamol-type blister pack, there was also a much more elaborate and expensive version that featured each track of the album in its own individual mini-CD.

So it was like a pack of paracetamol. Right. So each song was a mini-CD. And he said, I often ogled a copy of this in my local record shop but balked at the £70 price tag not to mention

the impracticality of having to exchange disc after every track it's quite pretentious but it was re-released it was re-released in 2009

and you can buy a version of it for £125 now so it's there if you want it guys a special edition score that's probably not even the top

you know top 10 pricey special edition packs I think there's a Guns N' Roses one gone for like 400 oh it's more than that

it's 750 quid yeah the big box yeah incredible there's a lot more of that kind of shenanigans and certainly more

interesting stuff in the video game world because you get little statues and little you know USB keys and all that shit t-shirt stuff

you bring into this office yeah exactly I quite like the idea because we're both this office yeah exactly I quite like the idea because we're both of a certain age I quite like the idea of the track listing the inlay card

the packaging all being part of the actual album if the artist has thought about every part of it to me it makes it I know it makes me sound old fashioned

but it makes it feel more complete and more interesting as like a piece of art if you know what I mean I was interviewing Noel Gallagher a few weeks ago and I sort of said

I quite like the the the vinyl version of his new single I couldn't tell you what the f*** is that but you ran out did you run out of things to say

yeah pretty much well no actually I managed to get three words in and he was like but he I was told not to mention Liam and then he mentioned Liam in the first five minutes

so I was like what am I supposed to do with that then what am I supposed to f***ing do with What am I supposed to fucking do with that? And he suddenly went, oh no, someone just comes around my house and I point at which one I like. I was like,

okay, good, you're really invested in this. Okay, right. For me, I'm not surprised to hear that, but for me,

I don't know how you feel about it, Pete, but for me, when I first sort of heard that people would go onto iTunes, see an album, and just pick the track they wanted and just download that track, to me that felt like a real insult to the artist.

Now, I'm over it now because I'm not as pretentious and the world's changed, but to me at the time it felt like a bit of an insult on behalf of the artist because, you know, if people just think I can do that, what's the point of putting an album together or even thinking about the track listing or anything like that, you know? Well, I mean, I guess people have changed. People have stopped being so tribal I

suppose you're not into an album write a song write a good song who remembers like you know everyone remembers Sweet Caroline

no one remembers Coming to America or America everyone remembers that oh okay I thought you meant the Razorlight song

it's massive for that was the biggest single poor example no that's why would I bring up Razorlight when we talk about a legendary artist you're always bringing up Razorlight songs. It's massive for them. It was the biggest single. Poor example. Why would I bring up Razorlight when we're talking about a legendary artist? You're always bringing up Razorlight. I know, right?

I think that's about enough time. We mentioned Razorlight. Let's get out of here. Yeah. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com to email us. And we do genuinely read every single one of your emails.

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