The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 96: Fodcast ferfection

Episode Date: September 6, 2018

What better way to start a podcast than chat about the lesser-spotted Hard Fi? Staines' finest are piquing Mr Donaldson's interest for some reason or another, and after that we find it within ourselves to ruminate on Masterchef, white chocolate, chicken shops and plenty more besides.Before we dash, there's time to hear from the LAPS community about the Butterfly Effect and how it pertains to Kim Kardashian being famous. Fascinating stuff, and it also includes OJ Simpson. What more can you ask for eh?To tell us your thoughts in the hope we share them with the masses: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Fatbergs, scallops, stealing stuff from your dad's work, gay night, all of it, all of it, it's all in here, the Luke and Pete show, how you doing? I'm Pete, joined by Luke, hello, we're doing this again, it's a Thursday, Yeah. How you doing? Ready for the weekend? What are you going to do? I'm living for the weekend. I'm living for the weekend. Because I get to use all the stuff across the weekend that my father stole from his workplace. Do you know the man from Hard Fire, Richard Archer, is part of a new outfit called Soap? No, I didn't know that.

Well, there you go. I'd forgotten about Hard Fire completely. Living for the weekend. They're the Rony boys, aren't they? If you're ever drinking a Rony, I think of Hard Fire. Peroni. Living for the week. They're the ronny boys, aren't they? If you're ever drinking a ronny, I think of hard five. Peroni. Living for the weekend. Do people shorten peroni to ronny? Yes, get on the ronnies.

That's quite interesting because a lot of Italians will shorten words, but they don't shorten it that way around. They shorten it the other way around. What? They call it pers? Well, they would say,

I mean, they just shorten things, they say ragazzo, which is kid. They say ragazzo. And stronzo, which is arsehole, they say strons. They shorten things they say ragazzo and stronzo which is arsehole they say strons they shorten things but I didn't know

they shortened it the other way around shortening their arseholes the ronies when you talk to me about Richard Archer whose name I'd forgotten of hard fire

strong eyebrows I think of him being linked romantically to Scarlett Johansson really did that happen I think so yeah I don't know if it happened but it was certainly linked

I was fuming at the time the stains massive yeah staining her good reputation to Scarlett Johansson. Really? Did that happen? I think so, yeah. I don't know if it happened, but it was certainly linked. I was fuming at the time. The stain's massive. Yeah. Staining her good reputation. You must have... That's the sort of rumour that if you were Richard Archer, you would very much

fan those flames, wouldn't you? Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time. Pete, you must have crossed paths with Hardfly over the years.

They were once in my office at XFM, and I just wrote, I defined it, I think they were recording a show, and all three of them, three of the main guys, were kind of huddled around one CRT monitor, and that's all I sort of remember from Hardfire. That's my only...

What's a CRT monitor for those of us on... A cathode ray tube. Just like TV. Well, no, because you're imagining a plasma screen, you're imagining an LCD screen. You're not. It's one of those big, old, three-dimensional televisions. People call them CRT monitors, do they? Yeah, they do.

In the trade. Yeah, in the trade. CRT. My dad would have got a CRT monitor. In fact, my dad did get me a CRT monitor for his work. I had it in the bedroom. My dad's, my first computer, the Amstrad CPC6, had a screen that was pulled out of a fruit machine,

one of those kind of digital fruit machines, back in the 80s that my dad pulled out with his bare hands. And so the casing for the monitor was wood, which presumably was some kind of fire risk. I mean, that is incredible. You don't want a wooden monitor screen. I don't know how you fit, how your family fitted all these things, all these mad goings-on into one house.

No. I mean, in my mind, it's just an absolute circus. fit how your family fitted all these things and all these mad goings-on into one house no i mean in my mind it's just an absolute circus there's gerbils eating each other there's a coal truck in the living room yeah there's all sorts going on yeah it's a bit wacky in it up north yeah all better off the tv i mean i might be doing my dad a disservice here and be smirching his good name but the tv that he blatantly got for me from his work, again, a Ferguson number, was on a sort of tall, thin chest of drawers in my bedroom. Right.

Across the other side of the bedroom. It wasn't a very big bedroom, of course. And it was sat on there. But it used to make, it was an old school TV and the volume and the brightness and the control and the contrast and everything was all little dials. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you push the button on the front of the TV,

it made a gigantic noise like it was not even a click no it was like it went yeah like that so obviously that became a problem when i wanted something a bit moody but if i wanted to watch something after i wasn't allowed to have the telly on which is basically any time after i don't know 10 or whatever so but i had so what i used to do is i used to turn it on with a snooker cue right and and make a really loud cough at the same time so and then and what i could do is leave the snooker cue there yeah so if my parents smelt a rat i could then quickly turn it off again because turning it off made no noise right okay and they would tuck the snooker cue down the side of me

but if not i was able to watch the rerun of red dwarf and everything was everything was cool and then if they did come in they thought god he loves pool yeah no i i did i did used to play snooker a lot i used to love it um he's sleeping with his cue he's gonna be the next higgins this is the latest episode of the luke and peter you are very welcome to join us um it's unplanned really apart from the emails that you send us and if you would like to do that and be a part of this foul jamboree it's hello at luke and peachy.com we would love to hear from you recently we've had talk about um basically just people stealing stuff from work a guy who had a good vhs player scam going on and that was on monday's show and we've got lots more

besides now um this time around pete i'd like to start with this it's something i read in the times and i thought you might have some opinion on it and the reason I found it interesting is because technology has taken over all our lives and technology has fully taken over your life for some time now to the point where

you are half man half internet and everyone knows that I mean we talked about your wires last time around didn't we and all that kind of stuff have you sorted through

those yet? No, no they will be buried with me Right So I'll be like one dense copper vinyl and man. Well, leave the copper to your next of kin

because it's worth money. I mean, get money for that. When I used to work as an electrician's labourer, we used to refit shopping centres. Right. And so the labourers, the guys who had no skills, basically me, would go in there and rip all the old cables out.

What they used to say was that we don't really have any use for those cables so you can keep them so we used to strip them all back take them to the scrapyard and the guy in there would weigh them and give us money for them and we'd use that to buy beers after work nice yeah it's quite a good scheme anyway um yeah you you you need to sort those cables out and i quite like the idea that rather than sort them out when you moved house last time you just took them all with you? No, I got rid of some. I mean, but I've still got like a big... The less sentimental ones. ...back under the bed, yeah.

But they're like old ones. I kind of get a bit emotional about USB wires that don't exist anymore. There are some kind of proprietary USB formats that you just don't see, and they're beautiful. Frame them. In their own ways. Frame them, yeah.

Anyway, so this piece in the Times, on that sensitive note, is from Alice Thompson. And I quite like it. I'd like to know your thoughts. So the quote goes as follows. Melinda Gates,

you know, as in Bill Gates' wife. Melinda and Bill Gates' children don't have smartphones and only use a computer in the kitchen. Bill spends hours in his office reading books

while everyone else is refreshing their homepage. The most sought-after private school in silicon valley the waldorf school of the peninsula bans electronic devices for the under 11s and teaches the children of ebay apple uber and google staff to make go-karts um knit and cook mark zuckerberg wants his daughters to read dr seuss and play outside rather than use any of his messenger apps steve jobs strictly limited his children's use of technology at home it's astonishing if you Mark Zuckerberg wants his daughters to read Dr. Seuss and play outside rather than use any of his messenger apps. Steve Jobs strictly limited his children's use of technology at home. It's astonishing if you think about it.

The more money you make out of the tech industry, the more you appear to shield your family from its effect. What are you going to do with your children, Pete? Well, I imagine those kids will be ostracized as pariahs because they can't use the internet in many ways. So yeah, I'll probably just be, I don't really get the anger that people have about, you know,

kids using their phones. You know, it'll all settle down. It's fine. Will you, you'll be happy for your children to use as much of it as they want? Again,

it's a very, yeah, I mean, my parents just let me get on with it. But again, the technology then wasn't that great, was it? Yeah, but I used it a lot.

What were you talking? Hours and hours, mate. Hours and hours. I need to punch the mic. Yeah. Getting passionate about it. So when you have children, you will let them just use whatever they want.

Yeah, I... As soon as your baby's born, you'll stick in a VR headset straight on their head. Yeah, exactly. On their little soft head. VR can provide a better level of life than i can yeah just let them get on with it yeah hooked into tron yeah i could feed them for the next 18 years or i could give them a virtual reality thing 200 quid and they'll think they're being fed they'll be fine yeah okay that's

interesting because i feel quite um i feel like it probably has been i think it definitely has been a contributor to like a lack of attention span in me yeah hugely yeah i'm yeah i'm dreadful i mean what was it gonna um i think i've already said it on the show before but i think the head of either bbc or itv comedy used to get something like 20 scripts a week for sitcoms and stuff like that right and uh now they get they're lucky if they get one or two. Really? Because people just haven't got the sustain, they can't sustain it.

They're laying the feet generally at writers indulging in pornography, to be honest. But the BBC are also people who socially, social media-wise, will say, oh yeah,

the clips have got to be a minute long and they've got to be two minutes long because otherwise, and it's like a self-fulfilling thing. People just have decided that no one's got an attention span so then they play

to that crowd and therefore you never see any long form stuff anymore. I think the whole debate about attention span in kids is dull. Kids read more than they ever have before.

You know, they probably don't play outside quite so much but, you know, the outside's scary, isn't it? You can't spend 20 years scaring kids,

paedophiles and bloody terrorists, and then expect that they wouldn't hide inside and just socially reach out through their computers. And the worst of that would be a paedophile who's also a terrorist. Imagine that. Imagine a militant paedophile. Yeah.

I've already named an episode recently the bad boy of perverts which is what you referred to yourself as last week so we should probably leave that one there

I wanted to start off with an email though from Mike Gibson and this is an email that slipped through the net on the more recent shows do you want to hit an ad break for that Steve

it's a bit early for that I think we'll do an ad break after this I said to you a while back that in my experience or from what I know that food critics I said to you a while back that in my experience or from what I know

that food critics don't like white chocolate. Do you remember? Yes, it's too sweet. Yeah. I watched an episode of MasterChef and they were doing something with white chocolate

and with cream and I never watched MasterChef. I love it. I absolutely love it. But I think, who's the guy who did Fatless Vindaloo? Oh, Keith Allen.

Keith Allen. I think he used some white chocolate and they went, it's too sweet. And it is too sweet. Keith Allen was awful. On MasterChef, there's Keith Allen. Yeah. I'm trying to think who else is on the show.

The current series is Celebrity MasterChef. Yeah, Celebrity MasterChef. So you've got Keith Allen. I can't remember anybody else, but there's a tall man. Oh, the massive rugby player guy. I thought he was a rugby player. Yeah, Scottish rugby player. English, I think, English. He's six foot ten. And every time he would be serving the food, but there's a tall man oh the massive rugby player guy I thought he was a rugby player yeah Scottish rugby player I thought he was English

I think English he's 6 foot 10 and every time he would be serving the food someone would make a joke about his height tall lads do email in

how bored are you of every single person you meet in this world mentioning your height there was a line there was a line there was a line in that episode

where he went to a professional kitchen and the chef who he was working with said oh you know you have to watch your head and I really wanted him to say what you think I'm not tall like this every day

I've chosen to be tall for this one day mind the dots yeah it happens to me quite a lot you're not that tall 6'3 taller than

taller than I would say most people it's rare for me to be looking up at someone in a conversation right and people do say that to you like if you go and stay in like a B&B or something which I don't know up at someone in the conversation right and people do say that to you like if you go and stay in like a b&b or something which i don't know what always

happens in the b&b possibly because a lot of the buildings are old they always say you know mind your head it's like yeah i know to mind my head if you want if you want to warn someone about minding their head it's short people because they're not used to doing it right okay yeah it doesn't make any sense anyway mike gibson's been in touch reference white chocolate and he says uh hi guys i'm hearing you mention white chocolate on episode 91. I thought I'd share a rib of knowledge, that probably should be a nib of knowledge, about how white chocolate differs to milk and dark chocolate.

My understanding of the process is that essentially to make chocolate, the cacao beans are extracted from the cacao plant, then fermented in open air and dried, before the cacao nib is extracted and roasted. Under heat, this becomes liquefied. The liquid is then separated into cocoa solids and cocoa butter, and this is where the two types differ. Milk or dark chocolate uses both cocoa solids and cocoa butter

mixed with milk, sugar, and other components, whereas white chocolate uses the cocoa butter alone, which has a lightly cocoa-like flavor, but no cocoa solids. White chocolate is then usually flavored with vanilla finally on your latter point i'm not a food critic as such but i do edit a food magazine while i'm usually obliged to play praise the virtues of artisanal produce painstakingly handcrafted with a little uh with as little industrialization as possible chocolate is the

one area in which i'm a complete basic bitch, and I absolutely love white chocolate. I can't stand 76% cocoa Ecuadorian single origin chocolate bars. To me, they taste like the juice of a Bexel battery. Give me a 12 Galaxy or Milky bar any day. Cheers, Mike Gibson. Milky bars are all right, but they're quite thin and light. I like MG on Twitter. Oh, do you know him? No, no, but he's tweeted a couple of times.

Why don't you follow him then if you like him? I think I do. Oh, do you? Okay. I don't know. I barely read Twitter. I just retweet other shit. You're always on send, you.

That's your problem. What's that? What do you mean? You're always just sending stuff, not receiving. Yeah, sounds bad. The problem with, so the Milky Bar for me. Because my Ethernet cable isn't a twisted pair. Yeah, true.

My problem with the Milky Bar is it falls into that section for me who is a larger man that i need to if i need to eat more than one of it to it for it to feel like to affect you yeah there's no point getting it isn't it yeah so i wouldn't eat more than one snickers but i would eat more than one whisper for example right okay yeah it's half air for god's sake tell her to the doctor you got diabetes it's half air for crying out you fool you damn fool milky bars are the same, aren't they? I haven't had a milky bar

for years, but they are quite sort of lightweight, aren't they? We've got a little fridge here where we keep our, to be honest, beers,

because we're sponsored by beer companies every now and again. And you bloody love craft beer, don't you? I love craft beer. And there's a little box of chocolate.

Hang on, the chocolates have gone. You ate all of them? Spellsies, Adam. No, you ate all of them. No, I didn't. I've been piling through them, but occasionally, because they were l have gone you ate all of them spelsies Adam no you ate all of them no I didn't I've been piling through them but occasionally

because they were lints you'd unwrap them and then some of them would be white chocolate it'd be like oh gross I thought you just said you quite like white

oh you like milky bar I like milky bar alright should we have a little ad break and you can go and find some more chocolate yeah so Sheikh

you're telling me that drinking camel's durian is part of the din don't get me wrong don't get him wrong don't get him wrong have you got an email lined up Peter I'm just typing in the theme. Ach, you don't get me wrong. Ah, don't get him wrong. Don't get him wrong.

Have you got an email lined up, Peter? I'm just typing in the old ad time, so why don't you just crack on if you've got one? Okay, people will probably get fed up of hearing about me. What about this then? This is another anonymous email, so apologies if I've left your name off, but you haven't appeared to include it.

It's about chicken, I think. Chicken. Hi, lads. Talk of knock-off fast food places reminded me of a chippy I saw on a recent trip to London. So we were talking about the fact that chicken shops are massive in London,

but they don't appear to be massive really anywhere else in the UK. Sam's Chicken Chicken in Kentish Town. Big fan of that. Morley's down in South London. Famous. Nice.

Bit of a national institution. That'll be a World Heritage site soon. And he sent an email that says not sure of the story behind it but for some reason or another perfect fried chicken in Chapel Hill was forced to change its name

in what can only be seen as utter content for the force of the name change Chippy went to the minimal effort of changing the first letter leaving us with the triumphant new name Furfect Fried Chicken well they just knocked off

a bit of the P and he's attached a photo so you can see how obvious they wanted the name change to look they've basically just taken the little bit out the bit of the P. And he's attached to a photo so you can see how obvious they wanted the name change to look. They've basically just taken the little bit out the middle

of the P to make it an F. Perfect fried chicken. Perfect fried chicken. I'd go there. Perfect.

It's thrifty. It's perfect, isn't it? I mean, look, they're passing on the savings to you. Yeah.

What's the chicken like? Pretty nice. I got Falmonella. Hello to Mark who says, Hi, gents.

Since Luke mentioned about Maldon Sea Salt, I think I might have mentioned Maldon Sea Salt. Yeah, you're trying to stitch me up. Do you want to tell people the story? Luke was once on a... An advertorial. An advertorial, a bit of branded content about Maldon Sea Salt. I'm not really sure how that happened or why it happened,

but it happened. And the best thing about it was I did not get paid very much. I feel he has summoned me to your inbox like the batman distress signal um i listened to your pods the day they write my inbox however this past week or so i've been on holiday so i had myself a little omnibus on the way back from work that's right treat yourself i mean that's a bit much it's hard enough recording two at a time so i, I sometimes in my mind get confused between an omnibus and an ombudsman.

Right. So if you complain to the ombudsman, that's not as good. If you're listening to an omnibus. Yeah, you won't get anywhere. Complain to the playbus. Yeah.

Omnibuses used to be, I'll tell you what, in the 90s, omnibuses used to be all the rage. All the soap shows. We'd have an omnibus, yeah. You'd get them all stitched together

on a Sunday afternoon. EastEnders I think does that, doesn't it? Not anymore, surely. EastEnders and omnibus. It's cheap programming all stitched together on a Sunday afternoon. EastEnders, I think, does that, doesn't it? Not anymore, surely. EastEnders is an omnibus. It's cheap programming, isn't it? I'm thinking EastEnders... You can catch up.

Yeah, but the people would complain about the charter. Would Newcastle, would Neighbours ever do an omnibus? I was about to say Neighbours and Home and Away, possibly. My mate Jimmy

still loves Home and Away. He watches it all the time. I used to be a big fan of Neighbours back in the day. I was saying, everyone was. That was on... You might be getting confused because that was on the afternoon and then later in the day. Oh, same. Everyone was. You might be getting confused because that was on in the afternoon

and then later in the afternoon, wasn't it? It was on at like 1pm and then 5pm. Was that yesterday's show or was it the same show? No, same show but earlier in the day, yeah. Geoff Lloyd, who used to do Absolute Now, he does a bit of Radio 2 and Radio 5. He does a show with his co-conspirator Annabel Pott and they were talking about Mamma Mia 2,

the new Mamma Mia film. All right, yeah. And apparently, in that, they go to, I think the main, who's the main kind of British guy? Mr. Darcy. Oh, Colin Firth. I think Colin Firth might be in that film. I think he might be in that film. Anyway, a character like that goes to Tokyo for a meeting with Mr. Udagawa.

Now, Udagawa is a name, you know, I'm a big fan of Japan. You don't hear it very often. It's not a name that's that popular with Mr. Udagawa now Udagawa is a name you know I'm a big fan of Japan you don't hear it very often it's not a name that's that popular Mr. Udagawa what would be like a popular name

say again what would be a popular name in Japan I don't know I've stitched you up there Muto Muto because he just signed

Yoshinori he just signed for Newcastle Yoshinori Muto okay and yeah you'd never hear Mr. Udagawa but he so Mamma Mia had a character called Mr. Udagawa Mamma Mia's going to Tokyo for a meeting with Mr. Udagawa

but he so Mamma Mia had a character called Mr. Udagawa Mamma Mia's gone to Tokyo for a meeting with Mr. Udagawa and Jeff tweeted

the director of the film or the writer of the film sort of saying was that a Neighbours reference and he went yeah it was so to speak what is a character

called Neighbours called that so whoever I think it was who sang gotta make you feel good oh Stefan Dennis Stefan Dennis

I think Stefan Dennis which is not his character's name it's called Paul Robinson Paul Robinson Paul Robinson used to go to Tokyo quite a lot for a meet with Mr. Udagawa oh okay right

oh nice it's a great little easter egg Mr. Udagawa I remember not watching Neighbours for about 10 years they were flicking it back on and Paul Robinson Stefan Dennis

had like a wooden leg or something oh right he came back and forth didn't he remember did he used to go out with one of the twins

yeah weird anyway this email from Mark is talking about yeah basically

this story is all about him fainting all of the time he's in secondary school there's an assembly on knife crime

the police are in showing some gory images trying to deter us. I suddenly felt a bit lightheaded, got up mid-assembly, and basically just absolutely collapsed. Second event, an apprenticeship scheme in which students were put into brick-clad cubicles

and shown how to tile, paint, saw wood, etc. One day, one of these students pretty much sawed his finger off. Oh, God. He's getting lightheaded just thinking about it now. We all thought it was hilarious, and I watched him receive treatment. Again, I felt a bit funny. I was asking my mate if he did too. He didn't.

He fell. He fainted. He's just constantly fainting, this guy. Do you remember the guy who you might have wanted to get wheeled out of the class after fainting in a wheelbarrow? Yes, that's right there. Well, basically, he's having problems when we mention gory things on the show that he feels a bit like. Oh, really?

Yeah. Okay. So this will help him out. This genuinely happened. A friend of mine at school, Adam, we were doing home economics or whatever, and we were being taught how to sew. Yeah. With the sewing machine. Oh.

Yeah. And genuinely, and genuinely, and listen, mate, I take no pleasure in your fainting, so if you want to turn this off, no, you can, but it's relevant, so I'm going to tell the story.

He wasn't paying attention and he put the sewing needle on the machine like through his fingernail and at the bottom of his finger like about two or three times before it stopped.

So it was a tidy little saw, tidy little saw. With like thread through it and stuff. They're so powerful, aren't they? Yeah. I was watching a guy do something with a,

he had like a, he had a, he had a chopstick and I can't remember what he was doing. He was like, he was doing like a trick, I think a magic trick,

but he smashes his hand through this chopstick. So the chopstick's pointing into the palm of his hand and because there are no muscles in your hand, it's just all tendons.

It came out the back of his hand, like, are no muscles in your hand it's just all tendons it came out the back of his hand but there was still like a tent like a little skin teepee of his oh but so it didn't break

it didn't break the skin on either side but it just went through in between the bones part of the bones part of the tendons and just went straight through the top of his hand

and I think you can kind of do that without really hurting yourself let's not do that it's sore and don't do it that's the next social media video i know right but this uh so basically uh mark from uh malden that's why he brings up malden seesaw okay i work in an office and was recently collaborating on a project with one of the trainees i just recently turned 18 years old we were looking through various documentation when suddenly i saw an email pop in his inbox. Of course, I shouldn't have looked, but the mind wanders, doesn't it?

What was suddenly etched across his screen was an email from Pornhub telling him that his subscription had run out. This would have been relatively acceptable if it was his own personal email. This was his work email. Oh, my goodness. Who subscribes to Pornhub?

No, why would you? Who needs a paper trail? There was a guy at my old workplace that I won't name who got busted and sacked for having porn found on his work computer. I remember my first work experience job in Eskom, which is a computer shop.

One of the engineers had pornography on his machine, but it was like late 90s porn. So it was probably an animated gif or something. And it took about three days to come through. Yeah, it was incredible. I like the way that you use the word

machine for computer as well. Yeah. It's very switched on. Programming a machine code. What about this email? Who was that last

email from by the way? That was Mark from Malden I believe. Thanks Mark. This is a good one from Sam in Harrogate which sounds like it would be a rough place

but it's actually really nice. Oh, Harrogate. It's a spa town, isn't it? Yeah, it's very nice. He says, Chaps, not sure if you've discussed the butterfly effect on the show before, not the film, but I think it's actually really nice oh Harrogate it's a spa town isn't it yeah it's very nice he says chaps not sure if you've discussed the butterfly effect

on the show before not the film but I think it's ripe for conversation is the butterfly effect film not about the butterfly effect though I think it is so it's connected isn't it he doesn't want to discuss that

particularly with Josh Hartnett I believe and someone else no I think it's Ashton Kutcher you know is it those two were in it

changeable back in the day weren't they if you can't afford one get the other in it's like Hugh Bonneville and Colin Firth yeah I'd have that could Colin Firth

play the dad in Paddington yes he could but they've got Hugh Bonneville maybe Colin Firth was busy I thought Colin Firth was in Paddington or was he just in the first one what

I haven't seen the first one why have you seen the second one it's supposed to be really good I'm not sorry people I backed myself not to be lost by the narrative

of Paddington fucking Bear. I didn't really understand it though. No, I did. And also in the 90s, I think maybe actually the 80s, the old chat was if you couldn't afford Ted Danson,

get Steve Guttenberg. Right, okay, yeah. That was the chat. Anyway, this is from Sam. He says, yeah, the butterfly effect. My favourite example of this in action

is that Kim Kardashian's fame is the indirect result of a bad pass in an american football game in 1970 the buffalo bills narrowly lost the game due to a bad pass thus being the worst performing team that year and getting the first pick in the draft they chose a young fellow by the name of oranthal james simpson oj simpson which brought him to buffalo and then subsequently to san francisco in the west coast where he met his future wife nicole brown in la and in 1994 was on trial for her murder as we know he was defended by Robert

Kardashian who then became well known because of that and the rest is history so if you've got some examples of that I like that the butterfly effect in action the sliding doors type scenario at hello at lukeandpeach.com we'd love to hear from that's a very good one have you seen the death I think we spoke about this so I've seen the death I think have you seen the death photos from the scene of that particular crime yeah I've seen the the OJ versus

what's it called I can't remember the name of the documentary OJ versus the people or something 10 paths it's brilliant

it's really really comprehensive the pictures of like their throats are out like both of them both of the guys like

yeah and yet he was oh the whole thing is absolutely mental the whole thing is absolutely mental. The whole thing is... Mental. It's clearly a crime or passion.

I'd never seen any of the murder pictures before. But the interesting part of the documentary I found was how the defence framed it, which was framed it as in made it about the wider issue about black versus white in the West Coast of the US and particularly LA and that part of LA and that part of the world at that time. It was their only play, to be honest.

Yeah. Because, you know, their throat, like it was clearly a crime of passion and their throats were, and this, you know, young waiter just murdered. Where were you at the time, Pete? You could have sorted the whole thing out. But it's really worth watching that documentary series.

Put the glove on me. Is it called OJ versus the people I don't know people versus OJ something like that it's about eight or nine parter it's

really really long it's fantastic because I was reading about something recently on there was a day in 1994 in like it might

have been the 17th of June something like that and it was like one of the most I'm probably going to get this wrong but bear with me one of the most dramatic'm probably going to get this wrong but bear with me

one of the most dramatic NBA final games in history there's a Stanley Cup match as well isn't there there's a Stanley Cup match maybe there was the opening game of the World Cup in USA 94

and the OJ Simpson car chase was all happening on the same day I was watching Wrestlemania 12 I think where it's that must have been about 94 Rowdy Rowdy Piper it was 96 I think Rowdy it's... That must have been about 94.

Rowdy, Rowdy Piper. It was 96, I think. Rowdy, Rowdy Piper versus Goldberg. No, Goldust. Goldust. Goldust. He roars his song. And because we do a podcast called Wrestle Me,

and I recommend it. But they used footage, because basically there's a car chase in it. Rowdy Piper's chasing Goldust to teach him how to be a man a lot of homophobia in that in this thing

and yeah they used footage from the chase the police chase my god he's in like some of the stuff

like WWF some of the stuff WWF got away with in that period of time shocked me to my very core and that's why he doesn't wrestle me because even if you

don't like wrestling the shit they got away with is incredible I agree it's very very core and that's why he doesn't wrestle me because even if you don't like wrestling the shit they got away with is incredible I agree it's very very interesting and we're almost coming up to episode 100 Pete what have you got planned?

what? start thinking about it now we've got four episodes left yeah alright cool I think that's about as much time as we've got for this time around

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