The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 97: The podcast Mick Hucknall
Episode Date: September 10, 2018Happy Monday! The Puke and Leek show is back once more for no other reason than we've got nothing better to do, so why not spend half an hour talking about bad poems at tube stations, Keith Moon,... listeners stealing Techdecks and video game re-releases?We also take in a few other bits and pieces from *you* the listener, including an extremely insightful missive about crucifixion. What larks!If you want to contribute, you'd be very welcome: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Luke and Pete show you are very welcome I am the Luke and that man over there is the podcast game
Mick Hucknall Mr. Pete Donaldson episode 97 and he decided to Get involved in the Introduction game
I have
I thought
Outrageous
I've seen it done 96 times
Now's my moment
As Martin McCutcheon
Would say
This is my moment
This is my moment
This is my perfect moment
Yeah has it thrown you
Out of sync
Out of kilter
A little bit yeah
Okay
What happened to Martin McCutcheon
Was she in
Not sure actually
Love actually
Do you know what
She was doing those
Yoga adverts for a while
Oh she was loving The probiotics That's what She was doing those Yogurt adverts for a while Oh she was loving
The probiotics
That's right
She was absolutely
Loving them
Sorry Martin
What do you do these days
Yogurt's mainly
Yogurt
In the probiotics sphere
I was watching
A lot of Brooklyn Nine-Nine
I have a little routine
I go to bed
Midnight
Watch two Brooklyn Nine-Nines
And then I go to sleep
Is it good
Yeah
The
Who's the big guy
God why have I forgotten
His bloody name I love that guy I've never seen it I can't help it It's the guy It's big guy god why have I forgotten his bloody name
I love that guy
I've never seen it
I can't help it
it's the guy
who does the
I'm on a boat
I'm on a fucking boat
that guy isn't it
no
you're thinking of
he was the old spice
he was the old spice guy
for the Tim and Eric
version
Terry Crews
no there's a guy
no this guy I'm talking about
is a white guy
the main guy in Brooklyn Nine-Nine
oh sorry
Lonely Island
yes Lonely Island
that's it
they used to have
a show on an
online TV channel
called Channel 101
and they were called
they did the Boo
which was about
Malibu
and it was basically
a take off of the
OC I think
it was very good
back in the day
that's what propelled
them to SNL's attention
what was your
original point going
to be about going
to bed and watching
two episodes of
Brooklyn Nine-Nine?
Terry Crews eats a yoghurt with,
eats three different yoghurts
with tracking devices in them.
He really likes yoghurts.
So one and a half minutes in,
we've had tracking devices,
yoghurts,
Martin McCutcheon,
Brooklyn Nine-Nine,
the OC.
That's what this show's all about.
That's what it's all about,
isn't it, mate?
If you're new to this show,
you are a strange person
by jumping in at episode 97,
but you're very welcome.
We would recommend you go back to the start.
I don't think they need to do that.
They don't need to, Pete.
No.
But we want the sweet, sweet downloads, don't we?
A lot of the reference.
A lot of the reference.
Well, start here and then work backwards.
You've always got something to listen to, haven't you?
True, yeah.
I could do it that way.
Might be a bit odd.
It's the sort of Luke and Pete show,
a half hour,
I guess it's like a half hour bit
where we talk about whatever we want and then do some emails from people who've listened in and as
part of the luke and pete show community um so you know make yourself at home put your trotters up
as danny dyer would say yeah make yourself a hot drink what would your hot drink of choice be right
now pete donald bob rill pete would have a bob rill fantasy something a bit um i mean it's basically
a little bit like uh what's the japanese one mis, I mean, it's basically a little bit like,
what's the Japanese one?
Miso.
It's like a British miso, isn't it?
Bovril, yeah.
In many ways.
Bovril is a very hard,
as I found,
because I try to do this,
a very hard drink to explain to an American.
It's a meat broth.
Yeah, because when I took Mimi
to Fratton Park for the first time
to watch a Pompey game,
they had Bovril on sale.
She was like, what's that?
And I was like, well, it's almost like drinking gravy out of a cup,
but not quite.
You're very British doing it.
The only way we're going to get to the bottom of this is if I buy one,
and I'm not prepared to do that.
Really?
So you waste good Bovril?
I would never buy a Bovril anyway.
I'm more of a tea man.
Oh.
Yeah.
I like a Bovril.
Anyway, so yeah, so recently on the Luke and Pete show,
just to give you guys
a little pricey,
a little update,
we've had Jim Davidson.
Possibly more on him later.
The, um, the...
Well, it's only a short email.
We can jump in, to be honest.
Do you want to do it?
Yeah, let's break the convention.
Shall I set it up
and you can deliver the email?
Yeah, right.
We set it up by saying
that a friend of ours
got home from the pub one
night in around the late 90s flicked on cable and wireless onto television x or the fancy channel
whatever it was to get his 15 minutes free at midnight of softcore pornography he was a teenager
uh at the time and he was presented with um jim david I'm Jim Davidson, and welcome to Gay Night,
and loads of buff, topless men around him.
Now, no one's ever been able to substantiate that,
but he insists that it happened,
and I will now hand you over to my esteemed colleague,
Mr. Pete Donson.
Well, I was so enraptured by this whole story.
I find it fascinating.
I wonder what the conversation went like at his agency,
because he's not known
as being a man
with much temperance.
I don't know.
He's not an accepting man,
is he?
Didn't we settle on the idea
that he might have offended
the gay community
and been told to do this
as part of his penance?
Exactly.
That's the only way
I can think of it
even being possible.
So Paul Hazel says,
the specifics of gay night
are a bit beyond me
but I completely remember
chewing in late night
and getting exactly
the opposite of what I wanted.
Jim Davidson
and hench
oiled up geezers.
Oh he's so hetero
Paul Hazel isn't he?
So hetero.
Don't worry Paul
we're not in any doubt now.
I would never recall
this had you not
mentioned it.
Is Paul Hazel
an anagram
of our friend's name?
Maybe.
Well listen at least two people have seen it now. I'm so glad it happened though. mentioned it. Is Paul Hazel an anagram of our friend's name? Maybe. Well, listen,
at least two people
have seen it now.
I'm so glad it happened, though.
I mean, two is a corroboration
for me.
Yeah, fine.
We'd like to get more information.
The BBC work on two witnesses
and then they run with it,
don't they?
Two sources, yeah.
That's why you rarely see
the BBC breaking news
these days.
Yeah, but also
they're very slow
on just goal updates.
Like, I mean,
just do them.
They're slower than Sky Sports and I don't understand why.
The conceived wisdom goes that back in the day,
in the golden days of media and reporting,
if that ever existed, I don't know,
everyone would rely on two sources.
You get one source in for a bit of information,
you get another source to substantiate it and stand it up,
and then you'd go with it.
Now, apparently, a lot of media companies have lost their scruples somewhat
and gone to a one-source system, Pete.
But BBC apparently doggedly,
possibly because it's under the terms of the BBC Charter,
stick to two sources,
and that's why you won't see people breaking news,
unless it's David Ornstein about Arsenal famously.
So that's how it goes.
I don't know if that's true.
But anyway, so Jim Davison was on the show.
Not physically. That wouldn't work. Pete don't know if that's true, but anyway, so Jim Davison was on the show. Not physically,
that wouldn't work.
Pete wouldn't be in a room with him.
Because you'd be very similar.
The material would be cannibalised,
wouldn't it?
Pretty much the same,
isn't it?
Yeah.
We've had a bit of Oliver Reed,
didn't we?
Last week.
Him and Keith Moon,
I think,
a bit of that chat.
I walked past the house
in which Keith Moon died recently.
I think you might have mentioned that. Oh did I? Sorry. It was in London. Because walked past the house in which Keith Moon died recently. I think you might
have mentioned that.
Oh did I?
Sorry.
It was in London
because I thought
he died in LA
but you told me
he died in London.
It was just near
Park Lane.
But I think I
looked at it on
Google Maps
and I think this
week I've actually
walked past it
or driven past it.
Isn't it funny how
back in those days
like the 60s and
70s particularly
artists who one could earn money,
but two, could also live in parts of London,
which would be unthinkable now.
Jimi Hendrix's old house is off of Oxford Street.
Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it?
Yeah.
And also, I guess the rents were a little bit cheaper.
I actually know a person who used to live just off Oxford Street,
just off Regent Street, in fact.
And she was, so basically my friend used to live in a house
owned by an old madam whose client base used to, on occasion,
service the late, great Jimi Hendrix.
Right.
But these stories are being lost, like,
because these people are just
getting older and older and this fascinating old lady um she ran uh she ran a place in the 70s
and um she was robbed uh in the last 10 years and she managed to with a broken ankle um like
basically trick the burglars into getting on the roof and then she locked the door and they
said two burglars on the roof what year was this? probably about 10 years ago now
amazing
this woman
they'd attacked her
she'd fallen down some stairs
and she'd still managed
to mug him off
because she's a right hard
hard case
that's excellent
good for her
we talked about Mick Jagger
having a son
I think
younger than his
great granddaughter
we talked about
more stuff about
dads borrowing shit
from work
and by borrowing we do mean stealing.
That's been a rich theme, hasn't it, Pete?
Definitely.
Bit of MasterChef, bit of white chocolate,
and a bit of chicken shops.
Nice.
That's what I took out of the last couple of shows.
So I thought, consider yourselves now brought up to speed.
What have you been reading about this week?
I read about a guy who decided that Londoners
don't smile enough on the tube.
Those types of videos. So I'm going to start on September the 26th
a big campaign to help Londoners smile on the tube.
He's presumably been killed.
Well, I presume.
27-year-old starter,
please don't punch me in the face campaign.
Please don't kick me on the tracks campaign.
No one needs that.
I am a Londoner, sorry UP.
If London was a nation,
we would have been able to take citizenship by now
because we've lived here for long enough and all that kind of stuff.
So we are really naturalised Londoners.
I don't think it is that Londoners are rude.
I just think they've just got stuff to do.
Yes.
And they want to get there.
Yeah.
And pricks be pricks.
I don't have time for the tottenham court road fucking funny
the tcr guys who do the chippy little fucking whiteboard drawings and writings
is it too is it too much in wackiness territory too whimsical too middle class
too bake off too safe too white too bullshit they also do it outside the O2, and they do little sort of shit
poems where, it's not even poems,
it's not even wordplay, they just literally
write sentences, including
the artist
who is playing at the O2's song titles.
That's a nice touch though, isn't it?
It's shite, Luke. It's a nice touch.
If I had my way, this office would be full of motivational quotes.
It would, but you wouldn't let me. The reason I won't do them
is because you'll pull them down.
I'll pull them down, yeah.
I know, and so I know that.
That cat hanging in there on the old light washing line,
hang in there, I'll pull it down.
That was going to be my first choice.
That's the thing, see, I know you so well, and it's depressing,
I know you so well that I won't even think about doing that
because I know that you'll just get rid of them
and it'll be a waste of money and time.
I spent £75 putting your face on cushions around this office. I mean, that's not motivational, you'll just get rid of them and it'll be a waste of money and time. I spent £75 putting your face
on cushions
around this office.
I mean,
that's not motivational.
It's just weird.
No,
but you let it happen.
I let it happen.
No,
you've not got rid of them.
That says a lot about you.
Because you waste
a lot of money.
That's why you're
the podcast game
Henry Winkler
slash the podcast game
Mick Hucknall
because you love
looking at pictures
of yourself.
You literally
put a lot of pictures
of me.
I'm sat on one now,
look.
There's you with an elephant. I'm sat on that on the cushion. I wasn't handsome at 22, 21. You literally put a lot of pictures of me. I'm sat on one now, look. There's you with an elephant.
I'm sat on that
on the cushion.
I wasn't handsome
at 22, 21.
You were alright actually,
yeah.
You weren't too bad,
quite chiselled.
What have I been reading about?
Oh no,
just on the London Tube thing,
just very quickly.
It takes 45 minutes
to get anywhere.
For those of you listening
who aren't in London
or don't frequent London,
it takes 45 minutes
to get anywhere.
And we've got to do it
each way, every day.
For me, it takes me an hour
to get from my house
to this studio.
Always bang...
Whether it's a 20-minute journey,
always give yourself an hour.
To get anywhere,
whether it's a taxi,
in heavy traffic,
everything takes
around about an hour.
So I'm head down.
I've probably got headphones in.
I'm either reading the book
or I'm listening to something.
I don't want to make
niceties with anyone unless... Possible exception, the fact they've got a dog. Yeah, I'm head down. I've probably got headphones in. I'm either reading the book or I'm listening to something. I don't want to make niceties with anyone
unless possible
exception the fact
they've got a dog.
Yeah I'm happy to
talk to someone
if I've got a dog
and that is just
that.
But like I help
if someone looks a
bit lost I'll always
sort of say you're
right.
I helped a I think
Chinese man out
last week when I
came back from
doing the ramble.
Yeah.
What was the
situation?
He was confused about how to get to the southbound Victoria line in Euston.
Euston's a shit show on the tube.
The north bank branch next to the northbound Victoria line,
it doesn't make any sense to people coming into the country.
It doesn't make any sense at all.
It's much more coherent than the New York subway.
Is it? My God, you look at the coherent than the New York subway. Is it?
My God.
You look at the map on the New York subway
and it will say you get that train.
And then the tiniest print it will say,
but not Thursday's after two.
And you look at the clock and it's Thursday,
it's 4pm.
Yeah, but I find the New York subway
a little bit more reliable in that they work on the tracks
while trains are just wanging back.
Because I think it's 24 hours.
Yeah.
It's not 24 hours, but it's... No, I think it is. I think it's 24 hours. Yeah. It's not 24 hours,
but it's...
No, I think it is.
I think it's certain lines are,
I think.
What?
Yeah, I know.
The other mistake
not to make on the tube train
on the subway
in New York City
is not when the train's pulling
and go,
oh, that one's empty,
I'm going to get on that.
The reason that one's empty,
literally empty,
is one,
because either the air condition
is broken
or there's some sort of
mad person on it
and people want to avoid it.
Tourist me just gets on there,
oh, it's bloody hot in there
and there's a mad person there.
Great.
Anyway,
to answer your question,
have I told you
that I'm having
my garden landscaped?
Yes, you have.
You're talking about the tree
and the Wichita lineman,
the loneliness of the cutter.
Well,
that was the tree surgeon
working on the tree,
not the garden. Working on the cutter. Sparrow's the cutter. Spar that was the tree surgeon working on the tree, not the gardener.
Working on the cutter.
Sparrows the cutter.
Sparrows the cutter.
Echo and the Bunnymen.
Yeah, I actually saw Echo and the Bunnymen.
I saw Echo and the Bunnymen once.
And what's the name of the lead singer?
Ian McCulloch.
Ian McCulloch.
He was pissed.
Yeah.
Mortally pissed.
Yeah.
And bearing in mind Echo and the Bunnymen
are quite a sort of atmospheric band
that inspire a lot of passion in people.
Yeah.
And they're one of those bands
if you like them
you love them, right?
And they played at a festival
and I think it was
getting on for sort of dusk
so it was quite a nice environment.
And Ian McCulloch, pissed,
changed the words
to pretty much every song
to You'll Never Walk Alone
and talked about how much
he loved Liverpool
the whole time.
So that ruined it
for pretty much everyone
I don't even like him
that much
but for me
it was quite annoying
yeah
it's quite indulgent
isn't it
I like that a lot
have I told you the story
about Neil Young
doing something similar
what are you pissed
Neil Young
at his worst
is known as being
very cantankerous
right
and
I might have told you this
but anyway
just indulge me very quickly and he came on and played a big show but he insisted is known as being very cantankerous right yeah and um i might have told you this but anyway just
indulge me very quickly and he came on and played a big show and but he insisted that he wasn't going
to play any of the songs that people knew yeah he just wanted to play songs on an album that hadn't
yet come out right so anyway he goes on and plays they play like three or four songs no one knows
any of them i mean it probably turned out to be a classic album after the gold rush or something
but at the point no one knew the songs so he plays plays plays everyone's getting getting fine this is all right it's neil young but you know don't really
know any of the songs um can you play cinema girl no all right fine anyway the very last song
he says right here's one you might have heard before and he just plays the song he played
first again oh no it just walks off iankerous. It's brilliant because people have paid.
Yeah.
They've actually paid for it.
What I like about it is that his MP3 player went to dust.
His HD MP3 player.
I think we might have even talked about that.
I will not have you disrespecting Pono on this show.
Pono!
Absolutely dreadful.
It's obvious if his judgement just isn't there.
Yeah, it's almost like he hasn't lived in the real world for about 40 years.
And he comes out with this piece of shit.
He's Neil Young, though.
Banana-looking nonsense.
But the sound quality is very good.
The sound quality is very good.
Exactly.
So let's not...
I'd sort of go...
I'd like to sort of interview him and go,
Neil, I've got myself a Pono, and I'm really pleased,
but I just have one of those really cheap Apple iPod earbuds.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I can really hear the quality.
Yeah.
And play it really loud so it's all bleeding out. cheap Apple iPod earbuds. Yeah. So yeah, I can really hear the quality. Yeah.
And play it really loud
so it's all bleeding out.
And just very quickly
on the garden landscape thing,
I've got,
there's these three Polish guys.
Actually,
no,
four Polish guys now
doing the garden.
That's a lot of people.
Lovely chaps.
Yeah,
they're trying to get it.
That's a lot of tea you've got to make.
Well,
this is exactly my point.
So I made coffees and teas
the other morning
and I put a packet
of hobnobs
chopped chip hobnobs
the best ones
what
out there with them
I'll get this out of the way
so we can go for a break
it's a mystery
right
I put the packet
of hobnobs out there
right
they buried it
took them out
and a hobnob tree
no
a hobnob tree
grew all in my garden
no
and anyway
so they drank the coffee
and the tea I got home from work so they drank the coffee and the tea
I got home from work
and they drank the coffee
and the tea
and the biscuits
was all gone
and I was like
okay fine
next day
I made tea and coffee
another load of biscuits
and as I took them down
the main gardener
who speaks the best English
said oh no it's okay
we don't need the biscuits
none of us really like
sweet things
and I was like
well hang on a minute.
You ate all the biscuits yesterday.
I didn't say that because I was British and awkward.
And since then they've insisted on not eating any biscuits.
Yeah, but they presumably ate all the biscuits
and then went, we ate too many biscuits.
British biscuits are rubbish.
Biscuits.
Biscuits.
I'm going to Google Polish biscuits.
I also gave them a beer at the end of the day
and they were very happy
about that
anyway
that's enough of that
yeah
Polish biscuit brands
Jizuki
Takotsky
Delicie
that's how you pronounce
Jammy Dodgers
your pronunciation
is excellent
it's good isn't it
yeah very good
Takotsky
should we go for an ad break
and come back
and when we come back we'll talk about people's emails.
Prince Paul or...
All right, then.
The problem appears to be that we haven't got our photo ID
to try and travel to Scotland,
which, as far as I can remember, was in the British Isles.
What can we do?
We're utterly hamstrung by these thick-headed people
wearing orange suits.
Dr Gerard.
Favourite guy ever, that guy.
Amazing guy. Speaking about
making a tree that
only has hobnobs on it, do you remember Green Claws?
Yes, I do, yeah.
Wasn't very good, was it?
I quite liked it. You would get weird-shaped seeds,
right? Yeah, and you'd plant them,
and he was helped possibly hindered by a mechanical owl.
Yes, and a girl who lived in there.
Toot, toot, toot, toot, toot.
The green claws live in the greenhouse,
and the woman lived in the house.
Yes.
She'd go and visit him.
Was he like a caterpillar or something?
He was this horrible kind of like...
Big caterpillar.
He looked like the sort of person
you'd see on the sofa
doing the horoscopes
in the mid-nights on TV AM.
I would, yes.
There's a certain
Biggins-esque
kind of look to him.
You're specifically
referencing
Russell Grant there.
Yeah, pretty much.
I would feel,
I mean I haven't seen it
as an adult
but I would probably
be tempted to file
green claws
among
charming TV shows
I watched as a child
that are now terrifying.
Yeah, exactly.
Another one of those,
Dizzy Heights Hotel.
Do you remember that?
Oh, I remember
the feature.
Where it's two like
Mr. Tumble type characters
who ran a hotel,
two guys,
but there were
permanent residents
in the hotel
that were puppets.
Awful, terrifying puppets.
It was horrendous.
For some reason,
I just got the theme tune in my head
about a week ago.
I YouTubed it,
and I couldn't get through five minutes of it.
It was creepy.
So creepy,
but as a kid, I loved it.
Alfonso Bonzo,
all that weird shit
that was like the late 80s, early 90s.
Very, very strange.
Speaking of weird shit,
should we do emails?
All right, then.
Do you want to do one first?
Let's reminisce about Puddle Lane for a bit.
Okay, let's get to emails.
Oh, Puddle Lane, I remember that, yeah.
We've got an email from Jack
talking about, well, tech decks and thievery.
Long time listener, first one writing in.
Thank you, Jack, for that.
Following our discussion on tech decks,
the tiny finger skate buzzer dug up a memory
that has been long suppressed.
It was my first time going out with some friends
from comprehensive school,
so early year 7, around
11, 12 years old, thinking these guys were
a lovely bunch of lads, and
decided to tag along on their
jaunt to the Metro Centre,
which is a shopping centre in
the North East, near me. Cut to
30 minutes into the visit, they got to Woolworths
and proceeded to steal tech decks from their packaging.
Whoa! Whoa! Me being an innocent
child, did they steal the little screwdriver and the spare wheels?
I was like, I want to know.
We have to have done, don't we?
Me being an innocent child,
I pretended to get a phone call
and left the store to hide from the inevitable criminal charges.
Five minutes later, they walk out as if nothing happened.
Their next stop was Toys R Us.
Their reign of terror continued.
Due to the stress this was causing my young mind,
I decided that these friends weren't for me
and made a hasty getaway.
Perhaps this level of petty theft from pre-teens
is the reason these chains went out of business.
Possibly, Jack, possibly.
Hello at Luke and Pete's show.
Tell us the biggest thing you've stolen.
Ha ha!
Well, we don't endorse that, but yeah, fuck it.
We don't endorse it.
We just want to talk about it.
I did all my thievery in primary school.
I think I spoke about it before.
I stole a lot of books from the lady who came around and sold her books.
I mean, it's a weird little racket, but they had basically,
you could buy like Roald Dahl books from a woman who came around.
They have that in the reception here, don't they?
Yeah, occasionally, yeah.
In the school, this woman would just come around with a selection of books
and you'd buy them with cash.
What, and you used to steal them?
I found out where they were kept and I just stole a lot.
On that note. I don't kept and I just stole a lot. On that note...
I don't know how I got caught, actually.
You know, a show from our stable, Berkhamstead Revisited,
one of the Laura's on there,
it's presented by two girls called Laura.
One of them said that at her first festival she went to,
she stole a fur coat from a charity store.
That's not great, is it?
It's bad, yeah.
But I think teenage girls
in particular,
there's less of a right
to passage for teenage boys
I think to steal stuff,
but teenage girls,
lipstick in the pocket,
bit of eyeliner,
lovely old job.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think she did used
to steal makeup as well.
I think she was like
a proper klepto back in the day.
A few of my mates
got busted stealing
blank tapes from Woolworths
when we were kids.
That's joyless, isn't it?
Yeah.
What's the point?
That's the point
where you think
it's just to show off, isn't it?
There's no real benefit out of that.
No, exactly.
You're not stealing food
to feed your children, you know.
Anyway, speaking of,
actually, no,
not speaking of this at all.
Pete, do you remember
a long-term,
well, slightly longer-term
listeners will remember
that you had some confusion
around how
Jesus Christ
who I think
you're familiar
with now
actually passed away
it was a brief blip
and it shouldn't
really have happened
in Catholic school
but we were more
as I said at the time
we were more
dedicated to the stories
of Caesarea Philippi
and the transubstantiation
and stuff
yeah
it doesn't matter
but John transfiguration John not John the Baptist I don't think has been kind enough caesarea philippi and the transubstantiation and stuff so yeah it doesn't matter i mean but john
transfiguration john not john the baptist i think has been kind enough to email in thanks john a bit
more information a bit more meat on the bones if that's not too too gross he says hi guys i'm a
listener from the very start and religiously listened since see what he's done there um for
first time emailer on episode 94 the last episode, at time of emailing, Luke mentioned that Peter
had gone on record
to state he wasn't sure
how Jesus died.
Anyhow,
fascinating fact
that I learnt not too long ago
is that the actual cause
of death from crucifixion
is a little different
than you may first think
when you are crucified.
Not that you would be,
hopefully,
crucified these days.
It's not through blood loss
from being nailed to the cross.
Yeah, I reckon it would start clotting quite quickly around the nails.
Apparently, nor is it by dehydration or starvation,
although I'm sure all these things are a contributory factor.
But the actual cause of death is asphyxiation,
or to be more precise, positional asphyxiation.
This happens due to the position the person is placed in.
As the arms are outstretched, this makes all of the pectoral muscle tight allowing for little room for the
chest to rise and fall also putting strain on the intercostal muscles between your ribs as the body
slumps forward further the diaphragm struggles to draw in the required oxygen and eventually you die
although a morbid topic i've listened to a lot of fascinating facts over the episodes and thought
this might just sneak into that category so that's how you die um if you are crucified nailed to a cross so at what point did medicine
and um crucifixion uh find that out because obviously crucifixion doesn't really go on
anymore um and where did medical science come into that when was last crucifixion when was the last
crucifixion there was also aren't there a group of fairly, I mean,
hopefully it's not too
unfair to call them
fanatical people who
every year, I think it
might be in the
Philippines, you know,
they do literally
crucify themselves for
like an hour to get
close, in quotes, close
to Christ and they
eventually get pulled
down again.
So that actually, I
think that still goes
on because weirdly
enough, Pete, I think
you might be aware of
this, didn't Dominic
Diamond of all people
do a documentary about it? Oh, I don't know. I think he might have aware of this, didn't Dominic Diamond of all people do a documentary about it?
Oh, I don't know.
I think he might have done.
Oh, really?
About religious people
who still crucify themselves
to get close to Christ
only for a time
and actually kill themselves.
But generally speaking, you're right.
I mean, my pectoral muscles are non-existent,
so I'd die in record time, I think.
I think I'd be dead after a couple of minutes.
It won't surprise you to learn
that crucifixion is still legal
in the UAE.
Okay, right.
And in March 2013,
a robbery was set to
be executed by
crucifixion for three days
in Saudi Arabia.
In March what?
March 2013.
Not that long ago, is it?
No, not really.
I mean, that's five years ago.
It's a bit closer
confidently.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, dear.
And by the way, John finishes the email by, I mean, that's a disgrace, but John finishes it Luke yeah oh dear and by the way
John finishes the email
I mean that's a disgrace
but John finishes the email
by saying
keep up the good work
you make my 46 mile round
commute
a little faster
every
I wonder what
who of our listeners
has got the longest commute
I'd love to know that
get in touch
hello at lukeandpetecher.com
a friend of mine
I was reminded of this
last weekend very good friend of mine, I was reminded of this last weekend,
a very good friend of mine,
he used to live where I'm from
in a place called Fairham,
just next to Gosport where I'm from,
and he used to commute to Hampton Court Palace,
which is about a two and a half hour drive,
I think, with a fair wind,
because he was part of a real life
Tudor
reenactment
job
at Hampton Court Palace
so he had to
commute there
dress as a Tudor
and be one of those
real life guides
and speak like in
hello serving wench
please pass me my
mead
I mean that's vocational
isn't it
yeah he lasted I think
two weeks
it was just awful well also I mean you don't wantational, isn't it? Yeah, he'd last, I think, two weeks. It was just awful.
Well,
also,
I mean,
you don't want to
dress at home
and then drive your car in
because if someone spots you.
Dressed as a bard.
Dressed as a bard.
Dressed as a minstrel.
I know someone
who commutes in
from Bournemouth
to London.
I mean,
that's a schlep,
isn't it?
That's an unlikable schlep.
Sure,
not,
are we talking office hours here?
Yeah,
we're talking office hours, yeah. What time's he set off? It's terrible, isn't it? Apparently, an unlikable schlep. Sure, not. Are we talking office hours here? Yeah, we're talking office hours, yeah.
What time's he set off?
It's terrible, isn't it?
Apparently, there are some people who leave from the Isle of Wight to go to London.
I mean, that's stupid.
You'd have to have your own...
You may as well just get your own speedboat and just go around to Southend.
Southend's still like an hour and a half from London.
Just drive it.
No, no, but like...
We'll drive up the Thames.
More up at the Thames barrier.
Yeah, exactly.
You're laughing.
Bobbing around.
Yeah.
I wonder if anybody commutes by boat
into London
with their own boat
whenever you go to
the Isle of Wight
for the festival
in my mind
it seems to take you
like all day
yeah
more than anything else
the hotel
and also the Isle of Wight
festival
is at the completely
the wrong side
of the actual island
it's not really a ride
at all
which is silly really
okay
yeah so the longest commute
hello at
lukeandpeatshow.com
and God bless you
God bless you
because I couldn't do it
God bless you
we got an email from
Damien
to the Luke and to the Pete
the magical 100th episode
is on the horizon
paint us a picture
about what you guys
have planned for it
anything spectacular
Pete to get a commemorative
tattoo for the occasion maybe as a listener since episode one i can't believe i've been on this
journey with you guys for so long that speaks volumes about my life but i feel i'm far more
wise and educated about the world in doing so i mean you're almost certainly not yeah it's a
low bar isn't it how much pete would what situation when was the last execution uh 2013 march saudi
arabia crucifixion nice that's what wasn't the last execution sorry uh execution by crucifixion nice that wasn't the last
execution
sorry
execution by crucifixion
if you've learned
whoever that email is
if you've learned
nothing more
than it's the fact
that Pete can't even
get the questions right
let me answer them
Pete what would
what situation
would need to arise
for you to get
a Luke and Pete show
tattoo to commemorate
the 100th episode
I mean
it's not even
one of our more
successful podcasts
but it wouldn't be
your worst tattoo
no it wouldn't be
my worst tattoo what is your worst tattoo I No, it wouldn't be my worst tattoo.
What is your worst tattoo?
I've got Manny Calavera from the video game Grim Fandango on my leg.
It's pretty.
I got it done in a restaurant in Berlin.
Oh, that one there?
Yeah.
I never knew who that was.
It was a cafe.
He's kind of like a Day of the Dead kind of detective in a video game.
It's a good game.
It's a Tim Schafer
sort of Lucasfilm
game from the
late 90s
early 90s
what platform
we're mainly
talking PC
it was re-released
a few months ago
for all the majors
but mainly PC
486 baby
did you go back
down and get involved
or did you go back
into the trenches
and have a look
at the reissue
I did yeah
I didn't like the
tank controls
because I preferred like a more holistic approach
to Manny Calavera's movement.
And it turns out a lot of games from the 90s are a bit shit.
You had a lot of strong opinions
about the remake and re-release of Shenmue, didn't you?
I did, yeah.
In the same month that Shenmue 1 and 2 got re-released for PS4,
the same month that Shenmue 1 and 2 got re-released for PS4.
They also re-released Yakuza 2, Yakuza Kiwami 2,
and that was the high bar for re-releases and re-duxing,
but very much Shenmue was not.
30-second drinking animation.
Who needs that in their life?
No one.
Japanese art role-playing games, they're long enough.
You don't need to wait 30 seconds while you watch fucking Ryo Suzuki drink a fucking catacomb.
Or open a capsule toy, a gachapon.
Today's instant society, today's low attention spans
mean that those type of games are now obsolete.
Oh, I can't do a Japanese role-playing game, even the new ones.
I just like, stop talking!
I can't do Football Manager for that reason.
No, Football Manager's quite good.
Talk to me about football manager touch
I'm happy with that
play the touch version
or the cut down version
for the PC
that's quite fun
because just all of that
nuts and bolts
all the real sort of
neck beardy stuff
I don't want to
my gaming experience
should not involve
like a 45 minute
heated meeting
with Dedrick Boyata
about his
training regime
yeah I don't care.
And then all the players pile in
and they're upset about
how you treated Boyata.
Yeah.
So shut up.
I remember once playing
Football Manager,
the full version,
a couple of years ago
and I thought,
you know what,
I'll give myself the Barcelona job.
And it was like 2014 or something.
Gave myself the Barcelona job,
went through all the stuff
you have to go through.
First pre-season friendly,
picked the team,
played the format,
the traditional Barcelona formation
as best as I could
sort of articulate it to the game.
Went on the pitch, right?
I swear I'm not making this up.
They were three and a half time.
So you know you have to do
the old half-time team talk.
Yeah.
So I get the half-time team talk
and I press a button that says,
all right, lads,
great first half, but don't get complacent. Yeah. Right I press a button that says alright lads great first half
but don't get complacent
right
press that
everyone piled in
everyone went down
down down down down
angry angry angry
angry
I was fired
before the first game
of the season
because they
they got so upset about it
that seems a little strange
did you win the match
in the end
I think so yeah
the pre-season friendly
but after that
I couldn't get any of the players
to play for me.
That's the problem though.
Barcelona, it's a big job.
Newcastle United,
less so.
I think the mistake
I made though, Peter,
is I think when you set yourself up
as a manager
you can put your own reputation in,
can't you?
So if you put yourself in
as an international football player
then you get a lot more
latitude, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
You can't put yourself
in as just no one
and manage Barcelona
you don't get
you don't even get to
the first game of the season
anyway
let's get out of here
I really wanted to ask you
about Stewie Donaldson
but I'll do that on Thursday
alright then
let's get out of here
we'll see you later in the week
thanks for getting in touch
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