The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 97: The podcast Mick Hucknall
Episode Date: September 10, 2018Happy Monday! The Puke and Leek show is back once more for no other reason than we've got nothing better to do, so why not spend half an hour talking about bad poems at tube stations, Keith Moon,... listeners stealing Techdecks and video game re-releases?We also take in a few other bits and pieces from *you* the listener, including an extremely insightful missive about crucifixion. What larks!If you want to contribute, you'd be very welcome: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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                                         Luke and Pete show you are very welcome I am the Luke and that man over there is the podcast game
                                         
                                         Mick Hucknall Mr. Pete Donaldson episode 97 and he decided to Get involved in the Introduction game
                                         
                                         I have
                                         
                                         I thought
                                         
                                         Outrageous
                                         
                                         I've seen it done 96 times
                                         
                                         Now's my moment
                                         
                                         As Martin McCutcheon
                                         
    
                                         Would say
                                         
                                         This is my moment
                                         
                                         This is my moment
                                         
                                         This is my perfect moment
                                         
                                         Yeah has it thrown you
                                         
                                         Out of sync
                                         
                                         Out of kilter
                                         
                                         A little bit yeah
                                         
    
                                         Okay
                                         
                                         What happened to Martin McCutcheon
                                         
                                         Was she in
                                         
                                         Not sure actually
                                         
                                         Love actually
                                         
                                         Do you know what
                                         
                                         She was doing those
                                         
                                         Yoga adverts for a while
                                         
    
                                         Oh she was loving The probiotics That's what She was doing those Yogurt adverts for a while Oh she was loving
                                         
                                         The probiotics
                                         
                                         That's right
                                         
                                         She was absolutely
                                         
                                         Loving them
                                         
                                         Sorry Martin
                                         
                                         What do you do these days
                                         
                                         Yogurt's mainly
                                         
    
                                         Yogurt
                                         
                                         In the probiotics sphere
                                         
                                         I was watching
                                         
                                         A lot of Brooklyn Nine-Nine
                                         
                                         I have a little routine
                                         
                                         I go to bed
                                         
                                         Midnight
                                         
                                         Watch two Brooklyn Nine-Nines
                                         
    
                                         And then I go to sleep
                                         
                                         Is it good
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         The
                                         
                                         Who's the big guy
                                         
                                         God why have I forgotten
                                         
                                         His bloody name I love that guy I've never seen it I can't help it It's the guy It's big guy god why have I forgotten his bloody name
                                         
                                         I love that guy
                                         
    
                                         I've never seen it
                                         
                                         I can't help it
                                         
                                         it's the guy
                                         
                                         who does the
                                         
                                         I'm on a boat
                                         
                                         I'm on a fucking boat
                                         
                                         that guy isn't it
                                         
                                         no
                                         
    
                                         you're thinking of
                                         
                                         he was the old spice
                                         
                                         he was the old spice guy
                                         
                                         for the Tim and Eric
                                         
                                         version
                                         
                                         Terry Crews
                                         
                                         no there's a guy
                                         
                                         no this guy I'm talking about
                                         
    
                                         is a white guy
                                         
                                         the main guy in Brooklyn Nine-Nine
                                         
                                         oh sorry
                                         
                                         Lonely Island
                                         
                                         yes Lonely Island
                                         
                                         that's it
                                         
                                         they used to have
                                         
                                         a show on an
                                         
    
                                         online TV channel
                                         
                                         called Channel 101
                                         
                                         and they were called
                                         
                                         they did the Boo
                                         
                                         which was about
                                         
                                         Malibu
                                         
                                         and it was basically
                                         
                                         a take off of the
                                         
    
                                         OC I think
                                         
                                         it was very good
                                         
                                         back in the day
                                         
                                         that's what propelled
                                         
                                         them to SNL's attention
                                         
                                         what was your
                                         
                                         original point going
                                         
                                         to be about going
                                         
    
                                         to bed and watching
                                         
                                         two episodes of
                                         
                                         Brooklyn Nine-Nine?
                                         
                                         Terry Crews eats a yoghurt with,
                                         
                                         eats three different yoghurts
                                         
                                         with tracking devices in them.
                                         
                                         He really likes yoghurts.
                                         
                                         So one and a half minutes in,
                                         
    
                                         we've had tracking devices,
                                         
                                         yoghurts,
                                         
                                         Martin McCutcheon,
                                         
                                         Brooklyn Nine-Nine,
                                         
                                         the OC.
                                         
                                         That's what this show's all about.
                                         
                                         That's what it's all about,
                                         
                                         isn't it, mate?
                                         
    
                                         If you're new to this show,
                                         
                                         you are a strange person
                                         
                                         by jumping in at episode 97,
                                         
                                         but you're very welcome.
                                         
                                         We would recommend you go back to the start.
                                         
                                         I don't think they need to do that.
                                         
                                         They don't need to, Pete.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
    
                                         But we want the sweet, sweet downloads, don't we?
                                         
                                         A lot of the reference.
                                         
                                         A lot of the reference.
                                         
                                         Well, start here and then work backwards.
                                         
                                         You've always got something to listen to, haven't you?
                                         
                                         True, yeah.
                                         
                                         I could do it that way.
                                         
                                         Might be a bit odd.
                                         
    
                                         It's the sort of Luke and Pete show,
                                         
                                         a half hour,
                                         
                                         I guess it's like a half hour bit
                                         
                                         where we talk about whatever we want and then do some emails from people who've listened in and as
                                         
                                         part of the luke and pete show community um so you know make yourself at home put your trotters up
                                         
                                         as danny dyer would say yeah make yourself a hot drink what would your hot drink of choice be right
                                         
                                         now pete donald bob rill pete would have a bob rill fantasy something a bit um i mean it's basically
                                         
                                         a little bit like uh what's the japanese one mis, I mean, it's basically a little bit like,
                                         
    
                                         what's the Japanese one?
                                         
                                         Miso.
                                         
                                         It's like a British miso, isn't it?
                                         
                                         Bovril, yeah.
                                         
                                         In many ways.
                                         
                                         Bovril is a very hard,
                                         
                                         as I found,
                                         
                                         because I try to do this,
                                         
    
                                         a very hard drink to explain to an American.
                                         
                                         It's a meat broth.
                                         
                                         Yeah, because when I took Mimi
                                         
                                         to Fratton Park for the first time
                                         
                                         to watch a Pompey game,
                                         
                                         they had Bovril on sale.
                                         
                                         She was like, what's that?
                                         
                                         And I was like, well, it's almost like drinking gravy out of a cup,
                                         
    
                                         but not quite.
                                         
                                         You're very British doing it.
                                         
                                         The only way we're going to get to the bottom of this is if I buy one,
                                         
                                         and I'm not prepared to do that.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         So you waste good Bovril?
                                         
                                         I would never buy a Bovril anyway.
                                         
                                         I'm more of a tea man.
                                         
    
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I like a Bovril.
                                         
                                         Anyway, so yeah, so recently on the Luke and Pete show,
                                         
                                         just to give you guys
                                         
                                         a little pricey,
                                         
                                         a little update,
                                         
                                         we've had Jim Davidson.
                                         
    
                                         Possibly more on him later.
                                         
                                         The, um, the...
                                         
                                         Well, it's only a short email.
                                         
                                         We can jump in, to be honest.
                                         
                                         Do you want to do it?
                                         
                                         Yeah, let's break the convention.
                                         
                                         Shall I set it up
                                         
                                         and you can deliver the email?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, right.
                                         
                                         We set it up by saying
                                         
                                         that a friend of ours
                                         
                                         got home from the pub one
                                         
                                         night in around the late 90s flicked on cable and wireless onto television x or the fancy channel
                                         
                                         whatever it was to get his 15 minutes free at midnight of softcore pornography he was a teenager
                                         
                                         uh at the time and he was presented with um jim david I'm Jim Davidson, and welcome to Gay Night,
                                         
                                         and loads of buff, topless men around him.
                                         
    
                                         Now, no one's ever been able to substantiate that,
                                         
                                         but he insists that it happened,
                                         
                                         and I will now hand you over to my esteemed colleague,
                                         
                                         Mr. Pete Donson.
                                         
                                         Well, I was so enraptured by this whole story.
                                         
                                         I find it fascinating.
                                         
                                         I wonder what the conversation went like at his agency,
                                         
                                         because he's not known
                                         
    
                                         as being a man
                                         
                                         with much temperance.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         He's not an accepting man,
                                         
                                         is he?
                                         
                                         Didn't we settle on the idea
                                         
                                         that he might have offended
                                         
                                         the gay community
                                         
    
                                         and been told to do this
                                         
                                         as part of his penance?
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         That's the only way
                                         
                                         I can think of it
                                         
                                         even being possible.
                                         
                                         So Paul Hazel says,
                                         
                                         the specifics of gay night
                                         
    
                                         are a bit beyond me
                                         
                                         but I completely remember
                                         
                                         chewing in late night
                                         
                                         and getting exactly
                                         
                                         the opposite of what I wanted.
                                         
                                         Jim Davidson
                                         
                                         and hench
                                         
                                         oiled up geezers.
                                         
    
                                         Oh he's so hetero
                                         
                                         Paul Hazel isn't he?
                                         
                                         So hetero.
                                         
                                         Don't worry Paul
                                         
                                         we're not in any doubt now.
                                         
                                         I would never recall
                                         
                                         this had you not
                                         
                                         mentioned it.
                                         
    
                                         Is Paul Hazel
                                         
                                         an anagram
                                         
                                         of our friend's name?
                                         
                                         Maybe.
                                         
                                         Well listen at least two people have seen it now. I'm so glad it happened though. mentioned it. Is Paul Hazel an anagram of our friend's name? Maybe. Well, listen,
                                         
                                         at least two people
                                         
                                         have seen it now.
                                         
                                         I'm so glad it happened, though.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, two is a corroboration
                                         
                                         for me.
                                         
                                         Yeah, fine.
                                         
                                         We'd like to get more information.
                                         
                                         The BBC work on two witnesses
                                         
                                         and then they run with it,
                                         
                                         don't they?
                                         
                                         Two sources, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         That's why you rarely see
                                         
                                         the BBC breaking news
                                         
                                         these days.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but also
                                         
                                         they're very slow
                                         
                                         on just goal updates.
                                         
                                         Like, I mean,
                                         
                                         just do them.
                                         
    
                                         They're slower than Sky Sports and I don't understand why.
                                         
                                         The conceived wisdom goes that back in the day,
                                         
                                         in the golden days of media and reporting,
                                         
                                         if that ever existed, I don't know,
                                         
                                         everyone would rely on two sources.
                                         
                                         You get one source in for a bit of information,
                                         
                                         you get another source to substantiate it and stand it up,
                                         
                                         and then you'd go with it.
                                         
    
                                         Now, apparently, a lot of media companies have lost their scruples somewhat
                                         
                                         and gone to a one-source system, Pete.
                                         
                                         But BBC apparently doggedly,
                                         
                                         possibly because it's under the terms of the BBC Charter,
                                         
                                         stick to two sources,
                                         
                                         and that's why you won't see people breaking news,
                                         
                                         unless it's David Ornstein about Arsenal famously.
                                         
                                         So that's how it goes.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know if that's true.
                                         
                                         But anyway, so Jim Davison was on the show.
                                         
                                         Not physically. That wouldn't work. Pete don't know if that's true, but anyway, so Jim Davison was on the show. Not physically,
                                         
                                         that wouldn't work.
                                         
                                         Pete wouldn't be in a room with him.
                                         
                                         Because you'd be very similar.
                                         
                                         The material would be cannibalised,
                                         
                                         wouldn't it?
                                         
    
                                         Pretty much the same,
                                         
                                         isn't it?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         We've had a bit of Oliver Reed,
                                         
                                         didn't we?
                                         
                                         Last week.
                                         
                                         Him and Keith Moon,
                                         
                                         I think,
                                         
    
                                         a bit of that chat.
                                         
                                         I walked past the house
                                         
                                         in which Keith Moon died recently.
                                         
                                         I think you might have mentioned that. Oh did I? Sorry. It was in London. Because walked past the house in which Keith Moon died recently. I think you might
                                         
                                         have mentioned that.
                                         
                                         Oh did I?
                                         
                                         Sorry.
                                         
                                         It was in London
                                         
    
                                         because I thought
                                         
                                         he died in LA
                                         
                                         but you told me
                                         
                                         he died in London.
                                         
                                         It was just near
                                         
                                         Park Lane.
                                         
                                         But I think I
                                         
                                         looked at it on
                                         
    
                                         Google Maps
                                         
                                         and I think this
                                         
                                         week I've actually
                                         
                                         walked past it
                                         
                                         or driven past it.
                                         
                                         Isn't it funny how
                                         
                                         back in those days
                                         
                                         like the 60s and
                                         
    
                                         70s particularly
                                         
                                         artists who one could earn money,
                                         
                                         but two, could also live in parts of London,
                                         
                                         which would be unthinkable now.
                                         
                                         Jimi Hendrix's old house is off of Oxford Street.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And also, I guess the rents were a little bit cheaper.
                                         
    
                                         I actually know a person who used to live just off Oxford Street,
                                         
                                         just off Regent Street, in fact.
                                         
                                         And she was, so basically my friend used to live in a house
                                         
                                         owned by an old madam whose client base used to, on occasion,
                                         
                                         service the late, great Jimi Hendrix.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         But these stories are being lost, like,
                                         
                                         because these people are just
                                         
    
                                         getting older and older and this fascinating old lady um she ran uh she ran a place in the 70s
                                         
                                         and um she was robbed uh in the last 10 years and she managed to with a broken ankle um like
                                         
                                         basically trick the burglars into getting on the roof and then she locked the door and they
                                         
                                         said two burglars on the roof what year was this? probably about 10 years ago now
                                         
                                         amazing
                                         
                                         this woman
                                         
                                         they'd attacked her
                                         
                                         she'd fallen down some stairs
                                         
    
                                         and she'd still managed
                                         
                                         to mug him off
                                         
                                         because she's a right hard
                                         
                                         hard case
                                         
                                         that's excellent
                                         
                                         good for her
                                         
                                         we talked about Mick Jagger
                                         
                                         having a son
                                         
    
                                         I think
                                         
                                         younger than his
                                         
                                         great granddaughter
                                         
                                         we talked about
                                         
                                         more stuff about
                                         
                                         dads borrowing shit
                                         
                                         from work
                                         
                                         and by borrowing we do mean stealing.
                                         
    
                                         That's been a rich theme, hasn't it, Pete?
                                         
                                         Definitely.
                                         
                                         Bit of MasterChef, bit of white chocolate,
                                         
                                         and a bit of chicken shops.
                                         
                                         Nice.
                                         
                                         That's what I took out of the last couple of shows.
                                         
                                         So I thought, consider yourselves now brought up to speed.
                                         
                                         What have you been reading about this week?
                                         
    
                                         I read about a guy who decided that Londoners
                                         
                                         don't smile enough on the tube.
                                         
                                         Those types of videos. So I'm going to start on September the 26th
                                         
                                         a big campaign to help Londoners smile on the tube.
                                         
                                         He's presumably been killed.
                                         
                                         Well, I presume.
                                         
                                         27-year-old starter,
                                         
                                         please don't punch me in the face campaign.
                                         
    
                                         Please don't kick me on the tracks campaign.
                                         
                                         No one needs that.
                                         
                                         I am a Londoner, sorry UP.
                                         
                                         If London was a nation,
                                         
                                         we would have been able to take citizenship by now
                                         
                                         because we've lived here for long enough and all that kind of stuff.
                                         
                                         So we are really naturalised Londoners.
                                         
                                         I don't think it is that Londoners are rude.
                                         
    
                                         I just think they've just got stuff to do.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And they want to get there.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And pricks be pricks.
                                         
                                         I don't have time for the tottenham court road fucking funny
                                         
                                         the tcr guys who do the chippy little fucking whiteboard drawings and writings
                                         
                                         is it too is it too much in wackiness territory too whimsical too middle class
                                         
    
                                         too bake off too safe too white too bullshit they also do it outside the O2, and they do little sort of shit
                                         
                                         poems where, it's not even poems,
                                         
                                         it's not even wordplay, they just literally
                                         
                                         write sentences, including
                                         
                                         the artist
                                         
                                         who is playing at the O2's song titles.
                                         
                                         That's a nice touch though, isn't it?
                                         
                                         It's shite, Luke. It's a nice touch.
                                         
    
                                         If I had my way, this office would be full of motivational quotes.
                                         
                                         It would, but you wouldn't let me. The reason I won't do them
                                         
                                         is because you'll pull them down.
                                         
                                         I'll pull them down, yeah.
                                         
                                         I know, and so I know that.
                                         
                                         That cat hanging in there on the old light washing line,
                                         
                                         hang in there, I'll pull it down.
                                         
                                         That was going to be my first choice.
                                         
    
                                         That's the thing, see, I know you so well, and it's depressing,
                                         
                                         I know you so well that I won't even think about doing that
                                         
                                         because I know that you'll just get rid of them
                                         
                                         and it'll be a waste of money and time.
                                         
                                         I spent £75 putting your face on cushions around this office. I mean, that's not motivational, you'll just get rid of them and it'll be a waste of money and time. I spent £75 putting your face
                                         
                                         on cushions
                                         
                                         around this office.
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
    
                                         that's not motivational.
                                         
                                         It's just weird.
                                         
                                         No,
                                         
                                         but you let it happen.
                                         
                                         I let it happen.
                                         
                                         No,
                                         
                                         you've not got rid of them.
                                         
                                         That says a lot about you.
                                         
    
                                         Because you waste
                                         
                                         a lot of money.
                                         
                                         That's why you're
                                         
                                         the podcast game
                                         
                                         Henry Winkler
                                         
                                         slash the podcast game
                                         
                                         Mick Hucknall
                                         
                                         because you love
                                         
    
                                         looking at pictures
                                         
                                         of yourself.
                                         
                                         You literally
                                         
                                         put a lot of pictures
                                         
                                         of me.
                                         
                                         I'm sat on one now,
                                         
                                         look.
                                         
                                         There's you with an elephant. I'm sat on that on the cushion. I wasn't handsome at 22, 21. You literally put a lot of pictures of me. I'm sat on one now, look. There's you with an elephant.
                                         
    
                                         I'm sat on that
                                         
                                         on the cushion.
                                         
                                         I wasn't handsome
                                         
                                         at 22, 21.
                                         
                                         You were alright actually,
                                         
                                         yeah.
                                         
                                         You weren't too bad,
                                         
                                         quite chiselled.
                                         
    
                                         What have I been reading about?
                                         
                                         Oh no,
                                         
                                         just on the London Tube thing,
                                         
                                         just very quickly.
                                         
                                         It takes 45 minutes
                                         
                                         to get anywhere.
                                         
                                         For those of you listening
                                         
                                         who aren't in London
                                         
    
                                         or don't frequent London,
                                         
                                         it takes 45 minutes
                                         
                                         to get anywhere.
                                         
                                         And we've got to do it
                                         
                                         each way, every day.
                                         
                                         For me, it takes me an hour
                                         
                                         to get from my house
                                         
                                         to this studio.
                                         
    
                                         Always bang...
                                         
                                         Whether it's a 20-minute journey,
                                         
                                         always give yourself an hour.
                                         
                                         To get anywhere,
                                         
                                         whether it's a taxi,
                                         
                                         in heavy traffic,
                                         
                                         everything takes
                                         
                                         around about an hour.
                                         
    
                                         So I'm head down.
                                         
                                         I've probably got headphones in.
                                         
                                         I'm either reading the book
                                         
                                         or I'm listening to something.
                                         
                                         I don't want to make
                                         
                                         niceties with anyone unless... Possible exception, the fact they've got a dog. Yeah, I'm head down. I've probably got headphones in. I'm either reading the book or I'm listening to something. I don't want to make niceties with anyone
                                         
                                         unless possible
                                         
                                         exception the fact
                                         
    
                                         they've got a dog.
                                         
                                         Yeah I'm happy to
                                         
                                         talk to someone
                                         
                                         if I've got a dog
                                         
                                         and that is just
                                         
                                         that.
                                         
                                         But like I help
                                         
                                         if someone looks a
                                         
    
                                         bit lost I'll always
                                         
                                         sort of say you're
                                         
                                         right.
                                         
                                         I helped a I think
                                         
                                         Chinese man out
                                         
                                         last week when I
                                         
                                         came back from
                                         
                                         doing the ramble.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         What was the
                                         
                                         situation?
                                         
                                         He was confused about how to get to the southbound Victoria line in Euston.
                                         
                                         Euston's a shit show on the tube.
                                         
                                         The north bank branch next to the northbound Victoria line,
                                         
                                         it doesn't make any sense to people coming into the country.
                                         
                                         It doesn't make any sense at all.
                                         
    
                                         It's much more coherent than the New York subway.
                                         
                                         Is it? My God, you look at the coherent than the New York subway. Is it?
                                         
                                         My God.
                                         
                                         You look at the map on the New York subway
                                         
                                         and it will say you get that train.
                                         
                                         And then the tiniest print it will say,
                                         
                                         but not Thursday's after two.
                                         
                                         And you look at the clock and it's Thursday,
                                         
    
                                         it's 4pm.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but I find the New York subway
                                         
                                         a little bit more reliable in that they work on the tracks
                                         
                                         while trains are just wanging back.
                                         
                                         Because I think it's 24 hours.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's not 24 hours, but it's... No, I think it is. I think it's 24 hours. Yeah. It's not 24 hours,
                                         
                                         but it's...
                                         
    
                                         No, I think it is.
                                         
                                         I think it's certain lines are,
                                         
                                         I think.
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I know.
                                         
                                         The other mistake
                                         
                                         not to make on the tube train
                                         
                                         on the subway
                                         
    
                                         in New York City
                                         
                                         is not when the train's pulling
                                         
                                         and go,
                                         
                                         oh, that one's empty,
                                         
                                         I'm going to get on that.
                                         
                                         The reason that one's empty,
                                         
                                         literally empty,
                                         
                                         is one,
                                         
    
                                         because either the air condition
                                         
                                         is broken
                                         
                                         or there's some sort of
                                         
                                         mad person on it
                                         
                                         and people want to avoid it.
                                         
                                         Tourist me just gets on there,
                                         
                                         oh, it's bloody hot in there
                                         
                                         and there's a mad person there.
                                         
    
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         Anyway,
                                         
                                         to answer your question,
                                         
                                         have I told you
                                         
                                         that I'm having
                                         
                                         my garden landscaped?
                                         
                                         Yes, you have.
                                         
                                         You're talking about the tree
                                         
    
                                         and the Wichita lineman,
                                         
                                         the loneliness of the cutter.
                                         
                                         Well,
                                         
                                         that was the tree surgeon
                                         
                                         working on the tree,
                                         
                                         not the garden. Working on the cutter. Sparrow's the cutter. Spar that was the tree surgeon working on the tree, not the gardener.
                                         
                                         Working on the cutter.
                                         
                                         Sparrows the cutter.
                                         
    
                                         Sparrows the cutter.
                                         
                                         Echo and the Bunnymen.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I actually saw Echo and the Bunnymen.
                                         
                                         I saw Echo and the Bunnymen once.
                                         
                                         And what's the name of the lead singer?
                                         
                                         Ian McCulloch.
                                         
                                         Ian McCulloch.
                                         
                                         He was pissed.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Mortally pissed.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And bearing in mind Echo and the Bunnymen
                                         
                                         are quite a sort of atmospheric band
                                         
                                         that inspire a lot of passion in people.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And they're one of those bands
                                         
    
                                         if you like them
                                         
                                         you love them, right?
                                         
                                         And they played at a festival
                                         
                                         and I think it was
                                         
                                         getting on for sort of dusk
                                         
                                         so it was quite a nice environment.
                                         
                                         And Ian McCulloch, pissed,
                                         
                                         changed the words
                                         
    
                                         to pretty much every song
                                         
                                         to You'll Never Walk Alone
                                         
                                         and talked about how much
                                         
                                         he loved Liverpool
                                         
                                         the whole time.
                                         
                                         So that ruined it
                                         
                                         for pretty much everyone
                                         
                                         I don't even like him
                                         
    
                                         that much
                                         
                                         but for me
                                         
                                         it was quite annoying
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         it's quite indulgent
                                         
                                         isn't it
                                         
                                         I like that a lot
                                         
                                         have I told you the story
                                         
    
                                         about Neil Young
                                         
                                         doing something similar
                                         
                                         what are you pissed
                                         
                                         Neil Young
                                         
                                         at his worst
                                         
                                         is known as being
                                         
                                         very cantankerous
                                         
                                         right
                                         
    
                                         and
                                         
                                         I might have told you this
                                         
                                         but anyway
                                         
                                         just indulge me very quickly and he came on and played a big show but he insisted is known as being very cantankerous right yeah and um i might have told you this but anyway just
                                         
                                         indulge me very quickly and he came on and played a big show and but he insisted that he wasn't going
                                         
                                         to play any of the songs that people knew yeah he just wanted to play songs on an album that hadn't
                                         
                                         yet come out right so anyway he goes on and plays they play like three or four songs no one knows
                                         
                                         any of them i mean it probably turned out to be a classic album after the gold rush or something
                                         
    
                                         but at the point no one knew the songs so he plays plays plays everyone's getting getting fine this is all right it's neil young but you know don't really
                                         
                                         know any of the songs um can you play cinema girl no all right fine anyway the very last song
                                         
                                         he says right here's one you might have heard before and he just plays the song he played
                                         
                                         first again oh no it just walks off iankerous. It's brilliant because people have paid.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         They've actually paid for it.
                                         
                                         What I like about it is that his MP3 player went to dust.
                                         
                                         His HD MP3 player.
                                         
    
                                         I think we might have even talked about that.
                                         
                                         I will not have you disrespecting Pono on this show.
                                         
                                         Pono!
                                         
                                         Absolutely dreadful.
                                         
                                         It's obvious if his judgement just isn't there.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's almost like he hasn't lived in the real world for about 40 years.
                                         
                                         And he comes out with this piece of shit.
                                         
                                         He's Neil Young, though.
                                         
    
                                         Banana-looking nonsense.
                                         
                                         But the sound quality is very good.
                                         
                                         The sound quality is very good.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         So let's not...
                                         
                                         I'd sort of go...
                                         
                                         I'd like to sort of interview him and go,
                                         
                                         Neil, I've got myself a Pono, and I'm really pleased,
                                         
    
                                         but I just have one of those really cheap Apple iPod earbuds.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So, yeah, I can really hear the quality.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And play it really loud so it's all bleeding out. cheap Apple iPod earbuds. Yeah. So yeah, I can really hear the quality. Yeah.
                                         
                                         And play it really loud
                                         
                                         so it's all bleeding out.
                                         
                                         And just very quickly
                                         
    
                                         on the garden landscape thing,
                                         
                                         I've got,
                                         
                                         there's these three Polish guys.
                                         
                                         Actually,
                                         
                                         no,
                                         
                                         four Polish guys now
                                         
                                         doing the garden.
                                         
                                         That's a lot of people.
                                         
    
                                         Lovely chaps.
                                         
                                         Yeah,
                                         
                                         they're trying to get it.
                                         
                                         That's a lot of tea you've got to make.
                                         
                                         Well,
                                         
                                         this is exactly my point.
                                         
                                         So I made coffees and teas
                                         
                                         the other morning
                                         
    
                                         and I put a packet
                                         
                                         of hobnobs
                                         
                                         chopped chip hobnobs
                                         
                                         the best ones
                                         
                                         what
                                         
                                         out there with them
                                         
                                         I'll get this out of the way
                                         
                                         so we can go for a break
                                         
    
                                         it's a mystery
                                         
                                         right
                                         
                                         I put the packet
                                         
                                         of hobnobs out there
                                         
                                         right
                                         
                                         they buried it
                                         
                                         took them out
                                         
                                         and a hobnob tree
                                         
    
                                         no
                                         
                                         a hobnob tree
                                         
                                         grew all in my garden
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         and anyway
                                         
                                         so they drank the coffee
                                         
                                         and the tea I got home from work so they drank the coffee and the tea
                                         
                                         I got home from work
                                         
    
                                         and they drank the coffee
                                         
                                         and the tea
                                         
                                         and the biscuits
                                         
                                         was all gone
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         okay fine
                                         
                                         next day
                                         
                                         I made tea and coffee
                                         
    
                                         another load of biscuits
                                         
                                         and as I took them down
                                         
                                         the main gardener
                                         
                                         who speaks the best English
                                         
                                         said oh no it's okay
                                         
                                         we don't need the biscuits
                                         
                                         none of us really like
                                         
                                         sweet things
                                         
    
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         well hang on a minute.
                                         
                                         You ate all the biscuits yesterday.
                                         
                                         I didn't say that because I was British and awkward.
                                         
                                         And since then they've insisted on not eating any biscuits.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but they presumably ate all the biscuits
                                         
                                         and then went, we ate too many biscuits.
                                         
                                         British biscuits are rubbish.
                                         
    
                                         Biscuits.
                                         
                                         Biscuits.
                                         
                                         I'm going to Google Polish biscuits.
                                         
                                         I also gave them a beer at the end of the day
                                         
                                         and they were very happy
                                         
                                         about that
                                         
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         that's enough of that
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         Polish biscuit brands
                                         
                                         Jizuki
                                         
                                         Takotsky
                                         
                                         Delicie
                                         
                                         that's how you pronounce
                                         
                                         Jammy Dodgers
                                         
                                         your pronunciation
                                         
    
                                         is excellent
                                         
                                         it's good isn't it
                                         
                                         yeah very good
                                         
                                         Takotsky
                                         
                                         should we go for an ad break
                                         
                                         and come back
                                         
                                         and when we come back we'll talk about people's emails.
                                         
                                         Prince Paul or...
                                         
    
                                         All right, then.
                                         
                                         The problem appears to be that we haven't got our photo ID
                                         
                                         to try and travel to Scotland,
                                         
                                         which, as far as I can remember, was in the British Isles.
                                         
                                         What can we do?
                                         
                                         We're utterly hamstrung by these thick-headed people
                                         
                                         wearing orange suits.
                                         
                                         Dr Gerard.
                                         
    
                                         Favourite guy ever, that guy.
                                         
                                         Amazing guy. Speaking about
                                         
                                         making a tree that
                                         
                                         only has hobnobs on it, do you remember Green Claws?
                                         
                                         Yes, I do, yeah.
                                         
                                         Wasn't very good, was it?
                                         
                                         I quite liked it. You would get weird-shaped seeds,
                                         
                                         right? Yeah, and you'd plant them,
                                         
    
                                         and he was helped possibly hindered by a mechanical owl.
                                         
                                         Yes, and a girl who lived in there.
                                         
                                         Toot, toot, toot, toot, toot.
                                         
                                         The green claws live in the greenhouse,
                                         
                                         and the woman lived in the house.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         She'd go and visit him.
                                         
                                         Was he like a caterpillar or something?
                                         
    
                                         He was this horrible kind of like...
                                         
                                         Big caterpillar.
                                         
                                         He looked like the sort of person
                                         
                                         you'd see on the sofa
                                         
                                         doing the horoscopes
                                         
                                         in the mid-nights on TV AM.
                                         
                                         I would, yes.
                                         
                                         There's a certain
                                         
    
                                         Biggins-esque
                                         
                                         kind of look to him.
                                         
                                         You're specifically
                                         
                                         referencing
                                         
                                         Russell Grant there.
                                         
                                         Yeah, pretty much.
                                         
                                         I would feel,
                                         
                                         I mean I haven't seen it
                                         
    
                                         as an adult
                                         
                                         but I would probably
                                         
                                         be tempted to file
                                         
                                         green claws
                                         
                                         among
                                         
                                         charming TV shows
                                         
                                         I watched as a child
                                         
                                         that are now terrifying.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         Another one of those,
                                         
                                         Dizzy Heights Hotel.
                                         
                                         Do you remember that?
                                         
                                         Oh, I remember
                                         
                                         the feature.
                                         
                                         Where it's two like
                                         
                                         Mr. Tumble type characters
                                         
    
                                         who ran a hotel,
                                         
                                         two guys,
                                         
                                         but there were
                                         
                                         permanent residents
                                         
                                         in the hotel
                                         
                                         that were puppets.
                                         
                                         Awful, terrifying puppets.
                                         
                                         It was horrendous.
                                         
    
                                         For some reason,
                                         
                                         I just got the theme tune in my head
                                         
                                         about a week ago.
                                         
                                         I YouTubed it,
                                         
                                         and I couldn't get through five minutes of it.
                                         
                                         It was creepy.
                                         
                                         So creepy,
                                         
                                         but as a kid, I loved it.
                                         
    
                                         Alfonso Bonzo,
                                         
                                         all that weird shit
                                         
                                         that was like the late 80s, early 90s.
                                         
                                         Very, very strange.
                                         
                                         Speaking of weird shit,
                                         
                                         should we do emails?
                                         
                                         All right, then.
                                         
                                         Do you want to do one first?
                                         
    
                                         Let's reminisce about Puddle Lane for a bit.
                                         
                                         Okay, let's get to emails.
                                         
                                         Oh, Puddle Lane, I remember that, yeah.
                                         
                                         We've got an email from Jack
                                         
                                         talking about, well, tech decks and thievery.
                                         
                                         Long time listener, first one writing in.
                                         
                                         Thank you, Jack, for that.
                                         
                                         Following our discussion on tech decks,
                                         
    
                                         the tiny finger skate buzzer dug up a memory
                                         
                                         that has been long suppressed.
                                         
                                         It was my first time going out with some friends
                                         
                                         from comprehensive school,
                                         
                                         so early year 7, around
                                         
                                         11, 12 years old, thinking these guys were
                                         
                                         a lovely bunch of lads, and
                                         
                                         decided to tag along on their
                                         
    
                                         jaunt to the Metro Centre,
                                         
                                         which is a shopping centre in
                                         
                                         the North East, near me. Cut to
                                         
                                         30 minutes into the visit, they got to Woolworths
                                         
                                         and proceeded to steal tech decks from their packaging.
                                         
                                         Whoa! Whoa! Me being an innocent
                                         
                                         child, did they steal the little screwdriver and the spare wheels?
                                         
                                         I was like, I want to know.
                                         
    
                                         We have to have done, don't we?
                                         
                                         Me being an innocent child,
                                         
                                         I pretended to get a phone call
                                         
                                         and left the store to hide from the inevitable criminal charges.
                                         
                                         Five minutes later, they walk out as if nothing happened.
                                         
                                         Their next stop was Toys R Us.
                                         
                                         Their reign of terror continued.
                                         
                                         Due to the stress this was causing my young mind,
                                         
    
                                         I decided that these friends weren't for me
                                         
                                         and made a hasty getaway.
                                         
                                         Perhaps this level of petty theft from pre-teens
                                         
                                         is the reason these chains went out of business.
                                         
                                         Possibly, Jack, possibly.
                                         
                                         Hello at Luke and Pete's show.
                                         
                                         Tell us the biggest thing you've stolen.
                                         
                                         Ha ha!
                                         
    
                                         Well, we don't endorse that, but yeah, fuck it.
                                         
                                         We don't endorse it.
                                         
                                         We just want to talk about it.
                                         
                                         I did all my thievery in primary school.
                                         
                                         I think I spoke about it before.
                                         
                                         I stole a lot of books from the lady who came around and sold her books.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's a weird little racket, but they had basically,
                                         
                                         you could buy like Roald Dahl books from a woman who came around.
                                         
    
                                         They have that in the reception here, don't they?
                                         
                                         Yeah, occasionally, yeah.
                                         
                                         In the school, this woman would just come around with a selection of books
                                         
                                         and you'd buy them with cash.
                                         
                                         What, and you used to steal them?
                                         
                                         I found out where they were kept and I just stole a lot.
                                         
                                         On that note. I don't kept and I just stole a lot. On that note...
                                         
                                         I don't know how I got caught, actually.
                                         
    
                                         You know, a show from our stable, Berkhamstead Revisited,
                                         
                                         one of the Laura's on there,
                                         
                                         it's presented by two girls called Laura.
                                         
                                         One of them said that at her first festival she went to,
                                         
                                         she stole a fur coat from a charity store.
                                         
                                         That's not great, is it?
                                         
                                         It's bad, yeah.
                                         
                                         But I think teenage girls
                                         
    
                                         in particular,
                                         
                                         there's less of a right
                                         
                                         to passage for teenage boys
                                         
                                         I think to steal stuff,
                                         
                                         but teenage girls,
                                         
                                         lipstick in the pocket,
                                         
                                         bit of eyeliner,
                                         
                                         lovely old job.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I think she did used
                                         
                                         to steal makeup as well.
                                         
                                         I think she was like
                                         
                                         a proper klepto back in the day.
                                         
                                         A few of my mates
                                         
                                         got busted stealing
                                         
    
                                         blank tapes from Woolworths
                                         
                                         when we were kids.
                                         
                                         That's joyless, isn't it?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         What's the point?
                                         
                                         That's the point
                                         
                                         where you think
                                         
                                         it's just to show off, isn't it?
                                         
    
                                         There's no real benefit out of that.
                                         
                                         No, exactly.
                                         
                                         You're not stealing food
                                         
                                         to feed your children, you know.
                                         
                                         Anyway, speaking of,
                                         
                                         actually, no,
                                         
                                         not speaking of this at all.
                                         
                                         Pete, do you remember
                                         
    
                                         a long-term,
                                         
                                         well, slightly longer-term
                                         
                                         listeners will remember
                                         
                                         that you had some confusion
                                         
                                         around how
                                         
                                         Jesus Christ
                                         
                                         who I think
                                         
                                         you're familiar
                                         
    
                                         with now
                                         
                                         actually passed away
                                         
                                         it was a brief blip
                                         
                                         and it shouldn't
                                         
                                         really have happened
                                         
                                         in Catholic school
                                         
                                         but we were more
                                         
                                         as I said at the time
                                         
    
                                         we were more
                                         
                                         dedicated to the stories
                                         
                                         of Caesarea Philippi
                                         
                                         and the transubstantiation
                                         
                                         and stuff
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         it doesn't matter
                                         
                                         but John transfiguration John not John the Baptist I don't think has been kind enough caesarea philippi and the transubstantiation and stuff so yeah it doesn't matter i mean but john
                                         
    
                                         transfiguration john not john the baptist i think has been kind enough to email in thanks john a bit
                                         
                                         more information a bit more meat on the bones if that's not too too gross he says hi guys i'm a
                                         
                                         listener from the very start and religiously listened since see what he's done there um for
                                         
                                         first time emailer on episode 94 the last episode, at time of emailing, Luke mentioned that Peter
                                         
                                         had gone on record
                                         
                                         to state he wasn't sure
                                         
                                         how Jesus died.
                                         
                                         Anyhow,
                                         
    
                                         fascinating fact
                                         
                                         that I learnt not too long ago
                                         
                                         is that the actual cause
                                         
                                         of death from crucifixion
                                         
                                         is a little different
                                         
                                         than you may first think
                                         
                                         when you are crucified.
                                         
                                         Not that you would be,
                                         
    
                                         hopefully,
                                         
                                         crucified these days.
                                         
                                         It's not through blood loss
                                         
                                         from being nailed to the cross.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I reckon it would start clotting quite quickly around the nails.
                                         
                                         Apparently, nor is it by dehydration or starvation,
                                         
                                         although I'm sure all these things are a contributory factor.
                                         
                                         But the actual cause of death is asphyxiation,
                                         
    
                                         or to be more precise, positional asphyxiation.
                                         
                                         This happens due to the position the person is placed in.
                                         
                                         As the arms are outstretched, this makes all of the pectoral muscle tight allowing for little room for the
                                         
                                         chest to rise and fall also putting strain on the intercostal muscles between your ribs as the body
                                         
                                         slumps forward further the diaphragm struggles to draw in the required oxygen and eventually you die
                                         
                                         although a morbid topic i've listened to a lot of fascinating facts over the episodes and thought
                                         
                                         this might just sneak into that category so that's how you die um if you are crucified nailed to a cross so at what point did medicine
                                         
                                         and um crucifixion uh find that out because obviously crucifixion doesn't really go on
                                         
    
                                         anymore um and where did medical science come into that when was last crucifixion when was the last
                                         
                                         crucifixion there was also aren't there a group of fairly, I mean,
                                         
                                         hopefully it's not too
                                         
                                         unfair to call them
                                         
                                         fanatical people who
                                         
                                         every year, I think it
                                         
                                         might be in the
                                         
                                         Philippines, you know,
                                         
    
                                         they do literally
                                         
                                         crucify themselves for
                                         
                                         like an hour to get
                                         
                                         close, in quotes, close
                                         
                                         to Christ and they
                                         
                                         eventually get pulled
                                         
                                         down again.
                                         
                                         So that actually, I
                                         
    
                                         think that still goes
                                         
                                         on because weirdly
                                         
                                         enough, Pete, I think
                                         
                                         you might be aware of
                                         
                                         this, didn't Dominic
                                         
                                         Diamond of all people
                                         
                                         do a documentary about it? Oh, I don't know. I think he might have aware of this, didn't Dominic Diamond of all people do a documentary about it?
                                         
                                         Oh, I don't know.
                                         
    
                                         I think he might have done.
                                         
                                         Oh, really?
                                         
                                         About religious people
                                         
                                         who still crucify themselves
                                         
                                         to get close to Christ
                                         
                                         only for a time
                                         
                                         and actually kill themselves.
                                         
                                         But generally speaking, you're right.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, my pectoral muscles are non-existent,
                                         
                                         so I'd die in record time, I think.
                                         
                                         I think I'd be dead after a couple of minutes.
                                         
                                         It won't surprise you to learn
                                         
                                         that crucifixion is still legal
                                         
                                         in the UAE.
                                         
                                         Okay, right.
                                         
                                         And in March 2013,
                                         
    
                                         a robbery was set to
                                         
                                         be executed by
                                         
                                         crucifixion for three days
                                         
                                         in Saudi Arabia.
                                         
                                         In March what?
                                         
                                         March 2013.
                                         
                                         Not that long ago, is it?
                                         
                                         No, not really.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, that's five years ago.
                                         
                                         It's a bit closer
                                         
                                         confidently.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Oh, dear.
                                         
                                         And by the way, John finishes the email by, I mean, that's a disgrace, but John finishes it Luke yeah oh dear and by the way
                                         
                                         John finishes the email
                                         
                                         I mean that's a disgrace
                                         
    
                                         but John finishes the email
                                         
                                         by saying
                                         
                                         keep up the good work
                                         
                                         you make my 46 mile round
                                         
                                         commute
                                         
                                         a little faster
                                         
                                         every
                                         
                                         I wonder what
                                         
    
                                         who of our listeners
                                         
                                         has got the longest commute
                                         
                                         I'd love to know that
                                         
                                         get in touch
                                         
                                         hello at lukeandpetecher.com
                                         
                                         a friend of mine
                                         
                                         I was reminded of this
                                         
                                         last weekend very good friend of mine, I was reminded of this last weekend,
                                         
    
                                         a very good friend of mine,
                                         
                                         he used to live where I'm from
                                         
                                         in a place called Fairham,
                                         
                                         just next to Gosport where I'm from,
                                         
                                         and he used to commute to Hampton Court Palace,
                                         
                                         which is about a two and a half hour drive,
                                         
                                         I think, with a fair wind,
                                         
                                         because he was part of a real life
                                         
    
                                         Tudor
                                         
                                         reenactment
                                         
                                         job
                                         
                                         at Hampton Court Palace
                                         
                                         so he had to
                                         
                                         commute there
                                         
                                         dress as a Tudor
                                         
                                         and be one of those
                                         
    
                                         real life guides
                                         
                                         and speak like in
                                         
                                         hello serving wench
                                         
                                         please pass me my
                                         
                                         mead
                                         
                                         I mean that's vocational
                                         
                                         isn't it
                                         
                                         yeah he lasted I think
                                         
    
                                         two weeks
                                         
                                         it was just awful well also I mean you don't wantational, isn't it? Yeah, he'd last, I think, two weeks. It was just awful.
                                         
                                         Well,
                                         
                                         also,
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
                                         you don't want to
                                         
                                         dress at home
                                         
                                         and then drive your car in
                                         
    
                                         because if someone spots you.
                                         
                                         Dressed as a bard.
                                         
                                         Dressed as a bard.
                                         
                                         Dressed as a minstrel.
                                         
                                         I know someone
                                         
                                         who commutes in
                                         
                                         from Bournemouth
                                         
                                         to London.
                                         
    
                                         I mean,
                                         
                                         that's a schlep,
                                         
                                         isn't it?
                                         
                                         That's an unlikable schlep.
                                         
                                         Sure,
                                         
                                         not,
                                         
                                         are we talking office hours here?
                                         
                                         Yeah,
                                         
    
                                         we're talking office hours, yeah. What time's he set off? It's terrible, isn't it? Apparently, an unlikable schlep. Sure, not. Are we talking office hours here? Yeah, we're talking office hours, yeah.
                                         
                                         What time's he set off?
                                         
                                         It's terrible, isn't it?
                                         
                                         Apparently, there are some people who leave from the Isle of Wight to go to London.
                                         
                                         I mean, that's stupid.
                                         
                                         You'd have to have your own...
                                         
                                         You may as well just get your own speedboat and just go around to Southend.
                                         
                                         Southend's still like an hour and a half from London.
                                         
    
                                         Just drive it.
                                         
                                         No, no, but like...
                                         
                                         We'll drive up the Thames.
                                         
                                         More up at the Thames barrier.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         You're laughing.
                                         
                                         Bobbing around.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I wonder if anybody commutes by boat
                                         
                                         into London
                                         
                                         with their own boat
                                         
                                         whenever you go to
                                         
                                         the Isle of Wight
                                         
                                         for the festival
                                         
                                         in my mind
                                         
                                         it seems to take you
                                         
    
                                         like all day
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         more than anything else
                                         
                                         the hotel
                                         
                                         and also the Isle of Wight
                                         
                                         festival
                                         
                                         is at the completely
                                         
                                         the wrong side
                                         
    
                                         of the actual island
                                         
                                         it's not really a ride
                                         
                                         at all
                                         
                                         which is silly really
                                         
                                         okay
                                         
                                         yeah so the longest commute
                                         
                                         hello at
                                         
                                         lukeandpeatshow.com
                                         
    
                                         and God bless you
                                         
                                         God bless you
                                         
                                         because I couldn't do it
                                         
                                         God bless you
                                         
                                         we got an email from
                                         
                                         Damien
                                         
                                         to the Luke and to the Pete
                                         
                                         the magical 100th episode
                                         
    
                                         is on the horizon
                                         
                                         paint us a picture
                                         
                                         about what you guys
                                         
                                         have planned for it
                                         
                                         anything spectacular
                                         
                                         Pete to get a commemorative
                                         
                                         tattoo for the occasion maybe as a listener since episode one i can't believe i've been on this
                                         
                                         journey with you guys for so long that speaks volumes about my life but i feel i'm far more
                                         
    
                                         wise and educated about the world in doing so i mean you're almost certainly not yeah it's a
                                         
                                         low bar isn't it how much pete would what situation when was the last execution uh 2013 march saudi
                                         
                                         arabia crucifixion nice that's what wasn't the last execution sorry uh execution by crucifixion nice that wasn't the last
                                         
                                         execution
                                         
                                         sorry
                                         
                                         execution by crucifixion
                                         
                                         if you've learned
                                         
                                         whoever that email is
                                         
    
                                         if you've learned
                                         
                                         nothing more
                                         
                                         than it's the fact
                                         
                                         that Pete can't even
                                         
                                         get the questions right
                                         
                                         let me answer them
                                         
                                         Pete what would
                                         
                                         what situation
                                         
    
                                         would need to arise
                                         
                                         for you to get
                                         
                                         a Luke and Pete show
                                         
                                         tattoo to commemorate
                                         
                                         the 100th episode
                                         
                                         I mean
                                         
                                         it's not even
                                         
                                         one of our more
                                         
    
                                         successful podcasts
                                         
                                         but it wouldn't be
                                         
                                         your worst tattoo
                                         
                                         no it wouldn't be
                                         
                                         my worst tattoo what is your worst tattoo I No, it wouldn't be my worst tattoo.
                                         
                                         What is your worst tattoo?
                                         
                                         I've got Manny Calavera from the video game Grim Fandango on my leg.
                                         
                                         It's pretty.
                                         
    
                                         I got it done in a restaurant in Berlin.
                                         
                                         Oh, that one there?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I never knew who that was.
                                         
                                         It was a cafe.
                                         
                                         He's kind of like a Day of the Dead kind of detective in a video game.
                                         
                                         It's a good game.
                                         
                                         It's a Tim Schafer
                                         
    
                                         sort of Lucasfilm
                                         
                                         game from the
                                         
                                         late 90s
                                         
                                         early 90s
                                         
                                         what platform
                                         
                                         we're mainly
                                         
                                         talking PC
                                         
                                         it was re-released
                                         
    
                                         a few months ago
                                         
                                         for all the majors
                                         
                                         but mainly PC
                                         
                                         486 baby
                                         
                                         did you go back
                                         
                                         down and get involved
                                         
                                         or did you go back
                                         
                                         into the trenches
                                         
    
                                         and have a look
                                         
                                         at the reissue
                                         
                                         I did yeah
                                         
                                         I didn't like the
                                         
                                         tank controls
                                         
                                         because I preferred like a more holistic approach
                                         
                                         to Manny Calavera's movement.
                                         
                                         And it turns out a lot of games from the 90s are a bit shit.
                                         
    
                                         You had a lot of strong opinions
                                         
                                         about the remake and re-release of Shenmue, didn't you?
                                         
                                         I did, yeah.
                                         
                                         In the same month that Shenmue 1 and 2 got re-released for PS4,
                                         
                                         the same month that Shenmue 1 and 2 got re-released for PS4.
                                         
                                         They also re-released Yakuza 2, Yakuza Kiwami 2,
                                         
                                         and that was the high bar for re-releases and re-duxing,
                                         
                                         but very much Shenmue was not.
                                         
    
                                         30-second drinking animation.
                                         
                                         Who needs that in their life?
                                         
                                         No one.
                                         
                                         Japanese art role-playing games, they're long enough.
                                         
                                         You don't need to wait 30 seconds while you watch fucking Ryo Suzuki drink a fucking catacomb.
                                         
                                         Or open a capsule toy, a gachapon.
                                         
                                         Today's instant society, today's low attention spans
                                         
                                         mean that those type of games are now obsolete.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, I can't do a Japanese role-playing game, even the new ones.
                                         
                                         I just like, stop talking!
                                         
                                         I can't do Football Manager for that reason.
                                         
                                         No, Football Manager's quite good.
                                         
                                         Talk to me about football manager touch
                                         
                                         I'm happy with that
                                         
                                         play the touch version
                                         
                                         or the cut down version
                                         
    
                                         for the PC
                                         
                                         that's quite fun
                                         
                                         because just all of that
                                         
                                         nuts and bolts
                                         
                                         all the real sort of
                                         
                                         neck beardy stuff
                                         
                                         I don't want to
                                         
                                         my gaming experience
                                         
    
                                         should not involve
                                         
                                         like a 45 minute
                                         
                                         heated meeting
                                         
                                         with Dedrick Boyata
                                         
                                         about his
                                         
                                         training regime
                                         
                                         yeah I don't care.
                                         
                                         And then all the players pile in
                                         
    
                                         and they're upset about
                                         
                                         how you treated Boyata.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So shut up.
                                         
                                         I remember once playing
                                         
                                         Football Manager,
                                         
                                         the full version,
                                         
                                         a couple of years ago
                                         
    
                                         and I thought,
                                         
                                         you know what,
                                         
                                         I'll give myself the Barcelona job.
                                         
                                         And it was like 2014 or something.
                                         
                                         Gave myself the Barcelona job,
                                         
                                         went through all the stuff
                                         
                                         you have to go through.
                                         
                                         First pre-season friendly,
                                         
    
                                         picked the team,
                                         
                                         played the format,
                                         
                                         the traditional Barcelona formation
                                         
                                         as best as I could
                                         
                                         sort of articulate it to the game.
                                         
                                         Went on the pitch, right?
                                         
                                         I swear I'm not making this up.
                                         
                                         They were three and a half time.
                                         
    
                                         So you know you have to do
                                         
                                         the old half-time team talk.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So I get the half-time team talk
                                         
                                         and I press a button that says,
                                         
                                         all right, lads,
                                         
                                         great first half, but don't get complacent. Yeah. Right I press a button that says alright lads great first half
                                         
                                         but don't get complacent
                                         
    
                                         right
                                         
                                         press that
                                         
                                         everyone piled in
                                         
                                         everyone went down
                                         
                                         down down down down
                                         
                                         angry angry angry
                                         
                                         angry
                                         
                                         I was fired
                                         
    
                                         before the first game
                                         
                                         of the season
                                         
                                         because they
                                         
                                         they got so upset about it
                                         
                                         that seems a little strange
                                         
                                         did you win the match
                                         
                                         in the end
                                         
                                         I think so yeah
                                         
    
                                         the pre-season friendly
                                         
                                         but after that
                                         
                                         I couldn't get any of the players
                                         
                                         to play for me.
                                         
                                         That's the problem though.
                                         
                                         Barcelona, it's a big job.
                                         
                                         Newcastle United,
                                         
                                         less so.
                                         
    
                                         I think the mistake
                                         
                                         I made though, Peter,
                                         
                                         is I think when you set yourself up
                                         
                                         as a manager
                                         
                                         you can put your own reputation in,
                                         
                                         can't you?
                                         
                                         So if you put yourself in
                                         
                                         as an international football player
                                         
    
                                         then you get a lot more
                                         
                                         latitude, right?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         You can't put yourself
                                         
                                         in as just no one
                                         
                                         and manage Barcelona
                                         
                                         you don't get
                                         
    
                                         you don't even get to
                                         
                                         the first game of the season
                                         
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         let's get out of here
                                         
                                         I really wanted to ask you
                                         
                                         about Stewie Donaldson
                                         
                                         but I'll do that on Thursday
                                         
                                         alright then
                                         
    
                                         let's get out of here
                                         
                                         we'll see you later in the week
                                         
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