The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 98: Flavour Dad

Episode Date: September 13, 2018

Let episode 98 be forever known as the time we finally discovered the best Dads ever, including a tour manager for the Rolling Stones and a father who literally brought home 20 different types of milkshake for his kids to sample and rate. Incredible.We also hear about the most expensive brandy in history, village fetes, rhubarb, and why Pete had never been asked back to the BBC. All your usual favourites are also included: Pete's Dad, Pete's tattoos, Pete's opinions on food etc. You know the drill by now.Send Pete ideas for a tattoo to commemorate the 100th Luke and Pete Show episode: [e-mail]***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Watcha? I introduced the last one, I'm not introducing this one. Oh what? Unbelievable. Do some work yourself, Donaldson. I was swallowing a cough. I was coughing on air on my job as absolute radio DJ and I was really thinking, whoa, what if I died on air? Wouldn't that be

spectacular? It'd be what you would have wanted, I would have thought. Figures would go through the basement. The basement floor. Remain largely the same.

And I was thinking about like bucket lists, things you do before you die. All the shit I've ever done. I've never had frog's legs.

I've never experienced a webinar. I've never, I've never been to Egg. I don't think I've ever went to our Ministry of Sound. What is Egg? Nightclubs in London. Eggs open like 24 hours. It's weird.

I thought it closed about 10 years ago. No, I think it's still there. It's the only club that I remember. I think I've probably spoken about this guy before, but there was a drunk guy on Tottenham Court Road, Spanish, I think, and he was like, Hey, going hey guys where's the party i need to go to a club and it was like two in the afternoon i mean it went egg is your best chance it's your best chance on a thursday at 12 p.m eggs probably open did you pull out your egg credit card oh

remember them did they got the wall yeah there's a lot of claims going on, I think. Claims. Counter claims. Small claims. Welcome to Luke and Pete's show, episode 98, I do believe. It's a show that tells you everything you need to know. About nothing. About nightclubbing during the day. Yeah. With Pete Party Dancing over there.

Oh, party pants. And Luke Late Night More. Late Night Luke More. The night Talker. If you want to get in touch because we spend the first half of the show talking about whatever we want to talk about and then normally the second half of the show

talking about your emails and correspondence. Hello at LukeandPeteShow.com is the place for that. Last time around, we talked a lot about a lot of things. I got into my mind that you reminded me a bit of Mick Hucknall. I don't know why.

I don't know. Where's that come from? This time around, your feet are chucking up a bit, mate. Can you smell that? Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. I don't know. It's these shoes.

Why have you taken them off then? Because if I put them on, it'll be worse, won't it? No, not for me it won't. All right, I'll put them back on. Yeah, put them back on. I don't mind that. It's weird that, isn't it? You're a man who's on record as saying you don't want to take your shoes off when you go to other people's houses.

You get into an enclosed space with me and all of a sudden you're getting completely naked which by the way you have literally done in front of me before what do you mean trying to unsettle me

trying to unsettle you when that time when I went out to answer the door and I came back and you'd taken all your clothes off yeah well I mean

I will do that you have got a folder on your phone with just nude pictures of me or just pictures of me it's a bit weird there's quite a few

nude ones on there there is quite a few nude ones on there I had to fully divulge the idea of it, not the content, but the idea of it to my wife so she didn't think it was weird. Right, okay.

And then she met you and thought it was fine. Yeah. One thing I did promise to do last time around is ask how Stewie Donaldson's doing, your dad. He's alright. I've not really spoken to him a lot. He's supposed to be coming down at some point

with my mum. So I said, do it before I change my hours on Absolute Radio and we'll be able to have a bit of a meal to be coming down at some point with my mum so I said do it before I change my hours on Absolute Radio and we'll be able to have a bit of a meal what's the big change well I'm covering

drive time through the summer months as they wait for a new drive time jock to start or a couple of jocks to start who's the new one it's Andy Bush

and Richie Firth Richie Firth used to be on the breakfast show with Christian O'Connell and obviously the big news this week is Chris Evans is

going to Virgin. Yeah. Virgin Radio. He's leaving Radio 2, which is the biggest breakfast show in the country, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, never discount a radio man's ego. He wants to be the saviour of a brand that he obviously respected and loved. Presumably he's friends with Richard Branson or something.

But again, that's why Absolute Radio changed from Virgin, because they were licensing the name and it was expensive and they couldn't do certain things they wanted to do. Are you in the shortlist for the running for the Radio 2 Breakfast? Oh, hugely, yeah. I'm up there with Sarah Cox. I mean, Coxie and Pete, we'll probably do a doubleheader. How close are you to having the Radio 2 Breakfast show?

What do you mean? I just want to know. I'm not close to even being on the BBC. Are you closer than I am? I've burned my bridges. Have you? No. Have you ever been on the BBC? Yeah, Six Music for a bit with've burned my bridges. Have you? No. Have you ever been on the BBC?

Yeah, Six Music for a bit with Danny Wallace. Oh yeah, of course. Humorist. I enjoyed that. It was funny, but it was, I think I was on,

I was really unhelpfully on overnights on XFM. So I would do like one in the morning to six in the morning and then I'd go straight over to Six Music and do that, like have two hours sleep and then go over to Six Music and do that, like have two hours sleep,

and then go over to Six Music and do the show there. I was just knackered. It was a ridiculous thing to do. Was there like another run at it? Another run at doing? Six Music. How did we get onto this? I don't know.

How's Stuart Donaldson doing? I've not seen him. I've not seen Luke, and he's supposed to be coming down soon. That's right. But I said to him. Yeah, let's do like a circular podcast where we just have

the same story I'll start doing over the top of you like in the round what's your show like it's good we do the same stories what different weeks

no the same stories every episode over and over again yeah I spoke to my dad briefly before we came in here because at the moment my parents are looking

after our two cats because as I said to you before the garden's almost finished but it's being landscaped when you said our two cats you said it like uh guys on film our two cats drinking the water our two cats yeah uh yeah and so anyway but the point is because um so they're not they're not house cats they are outdoor cats we've got a cat flap. And the cat flap's very clever. You sync up the chip in the back of your cat's neck to the cat flap.

Oh, so it only lets... Those two in. It's like a bouncer. Yeah. Basically, yeah. But anyway, so, but we don't have that facility at my parents' place. And also, they live near to quite a main road, so quite a busy road. So they stay in the house.

Yeah. But the problem is, I think now it's getting to the point they've been there for about a week and it's getting to the point where they just desperately want to go outside. And so every time, my dad was calling me to say

that he opened the door earlier today and Magnus just legged it out. And my dad took, spent about an hour getting him back in. So that basically is a coded way of saying,

look, you've got to go and pick your cats up because it's getting ridiculous now. They're going to start shitting all over the floor soon. Yeah. So I've got to do that. your cats up because it's getting ridiculous now they're going to start shitting all over the floor soon so I've got to do that so I spoke to my dad today what about that huh

there we go yeah that's basically what's been floating in my bag alright so your relationship with your dad is better than mine what do you want a tattoo your dad's face on your leg

for this morning you spend all your time speaking to your dad I don't really you've made shows with your dad on them he just sends me whatsapp videos

but like I don't know where he's getting them from probably somewhere at the pub but he's in sort of like a round robin of like dad videos we all know that

that are just like just men trying to make sense of the world yeah dad videos and dad memes do you think when you get to a certain age and my dad's I think 62 now

you get to a certain age where you think oh this world's mad now I can't really understand it I can't handle it yeah that's why they come off as being a bit right wing and a bit weird

because they just they just can't make sense of the world and that's fine but some of them become really bitter about it yeah I don't understand that my dad's very

my dad's a lovely man he's not like that at all but just like I don't understand why and it is mainly men they just sort of like they just can't let shit slide my dad's

it's nothing to do I don't there is only two genders it's nothing to do there is only two genders it's nothing to do with you mate you've lived so don't worry

about it it's nothing to do with you my dad's lovely and he's very kind to everyone but it's funny because

I think I'm going to be terrible when I'm old terrible man true yeah that's true I went to

Bristol last weekend by the way ooh la la I went to the Westbury onon-Trim village fete. Right. Those who follow my Instagram account. Speaking of tweeners.

Those who follow my Instagram account, Pete, and do take an interest, i.e. not you, would have seen the Guinness World Record-breaking world's largest rhubarb. Well, I actually saw you molesting some kind of root vegetable at one point. I think it was a massive turnip, maybe. It's huge.

It was a beaut. Yeah. But the world's biggest rhubarb was there, and it was astonishing. And there was a man crucified on it. Yeah, yeah. But he didn't die. He didn't die of asphyxiation. He died of rhubarb.

It grows so fast, I can actually feel it growing. They do grow fast, don't they? I find the idea that, I know this is going to sound absolutely stupid, but potatoes and celery growing in similar conditions, you know, a British garden. No, rhubarb grows in the dark. It grows in the dark. I think you have to put it in the shed.

No, but isn't it like rhubarb? No, rhubarb you grow outside because they've got big leaves to shade it from the sun, haven't they? So that's why they have such big leaves. You can definitely grow rhubarb? No, rhubarb you grow outside because they've got big leaves to shade it from the sun, haven't they? So that's why they have such big leaves. You can definitely grow rhubarb outside,

but they grow in very different, similar sort of conditions, but those two kind of like are very different vegetables. One's just full of water and one's just so starchy. One's a tuber. It's incredible.

And they all come from seeds. I realise I'm just describing how plants work, but it's fascinating. If you were doing a top three vegetables... What, out of the ground, that you could grow in England? That you like.

Right. The humble potato would have to be in there, just for versatility alone. Yeah, I don't eat a lot of spuds. What would be your top three? I occasionally eat the spud version of the... Is it the Karelian pie? It's like a Scandinavian little pasty,

is what you'd call it. You can have a rice version or a potato version they're very nice you get them in the Swedish cafe on Golden Square and you always have the egg butter

which is just literally egg and butter yeah I think we used to meet in there sometimes didn't we we used to meet in there sometimes and eat some of that stuff Karelian pie

has your dad become a really fussy eater as he's got old no he rarely eats he's got old? No, he rarely eats. He's got a big fat belly, but it's booze related rather than anything else. My dad's quite set in his ways with food. He just wants to eat Chinese takeaways all the time. I mean, to be fair, that's where I'm going to end up.

What's his Chinese order of choice? He always has a foo young. Right. I think he does a curry, Chinese curry. Nice. He likes cho young. Right. Yeah. I think he does like a curry, Chinese curry. Nice. He likes chow mein. Okay. But he absolutely loves sesame prawn toast.

Oh, but that's nice. But if they use old prawns, it's almost better. It gives you like a tangy kind of like, whoa. No, I mean, I don't know. I'm no nutritionist or have any medical qualifications whatsoever, but even the term old prawns makes me think it's going to make you ill. Yeah, it is.

It'll make you badly ill. Gav Murphy works for IGN. He's quite good at Twitter and he tweeted a picture of him. He was basically doing the meat at a barbecue and he started saying, I don't understand this Vogue I've been looking on Instagram

of chefs cooking medium rare chicken. Oh medium i've heard about this yeah and he tweeted a picture of like basically like a light salad and like this raw chicken leg with marinade on it um as a joke um and he tweeted it and someone ate it and died well no but obviously everyone's just like oh my god uh and it just kind of went viral and people sort of retweeting it going, oh, white people. Right. It's mad shit.

Are you just taking the piss? So what's the actual truth behind it? What do you mean? Medium chicken and stuff. Well, I think in some restaurants, if you can kind of trace the inception of the animal, I think you can eat chicken and pork.

Nowadays, it's a lot safer there's not quite so much salmonella kicking around because people know where their food's coming from but it'd be horrible would it be horrible I remember going to a

barbecue once if it's dressed properly if it's got a lot of lime juice in there maybe to kind of dry out a little bit make it less greasy I went to a I went to a barbecue once Pete

yeah and a roof garden in South London it wasn't anywhere near as pretentious as I've made that sound it was just poor people in London

who had a little roof terrace because we couldn't afford gardens. And there was a guy there invited who was a complete bellend and he was telling everyone that he's an old Etonian and he was just this big head.

And he said, well, I know all about how to cook food on the barbecue. I'll just cook the food. And I was like, all right, fine. So we were just having beers, sat around. He was on the barbecue.

Yeah, I've never understood men who insist on being the barbecue man because you just don't get involved in the actual party. You also end up stinking of smoke as well at the end of it. Yeah, it's not for me. Anyway, I will chip in if people need me. I'm happy to do it. But anyway, this guy was with his boorish mates were just chatting away, being quite loud and obnoxious.

And I'm tempted to say posh, but I don't want to be too sort of pejorative about wealthier people. Because you've got to take people as you find them. Anyway, he serves me up this chicken in a bun. I haven't said he was the best barbecue chef in London or whatever. And I bit into it.

It's raw in the middle. Oh, no. And I gave it back to him and he went oh no yeah I don't know what happened I'll tell you it fucking happened mate

you haven't cooked it enough put it back on the grill and I got you know when I get sometimes I get quite sort of indignant quite obnoxious I was being like that

and I think my girlfriend at the time was like come on it's not worth it have a burger I love a burger and then you eat the burger it's fine

it's fine yeah not if they bought frozen from Iceland you can't no anyway so what was I saying I went to a village

fete outside Bristol the Westbury-on-Trim village fete very nice you know when people live in small little places like that and they have things

like village fetes and then everything around the village fete is just like a big deal you want to win the cake competition you want to win this competition

and you want to and if you're judging the cakes it's like the most important job ever and that's very much what it was like it was a very pleasant affair but the people who are doing the judging for example are taking it way too seriously yeah you've got like eight year olds doing like handwriting competitions and they're getting like critiques by judging i don't know why they're sort of i don't know is that what is that what village communities were like back in the day because obviously we lost a lot of that with the internet and you know maybe we've uh as we sort of evolved we enjoyed being a part of a tribe and i

think what it was telling me about how um tribalism in football sort of got started like men don't have that anymore yeah and so they invest their their time in joining a kind of football tribe sort of thing is that what kind of modern village life is like just aggressive people trying to score points off people and gossiping it sounds fucking dreadful yes I don't know because I don't live in one

but Pete can you see yourself as you get older moving out to the countryside? I always think of the Stuart Lee it's not sketch but he's sort of talking about a couple

moving out into the sticks it's beautiful it's beautiful out here there's a farmer's field behind us and there's a horse and you should come come

this weekend come come Saturday Sunday stay over the people who live in London so I've got just just yeah we'll have a great time.

I'll get some wine in there. Bring some cock. Just bring some cock. Please, please bring some cock. And they're obsessed with bringing, like, because they,

you know, they left behind something in London that they want to. So yeah, I will move out eventually, but I, I don't subscribe to the fact that anyone goes mad.

I'm happy by myself. I'm happy kind of having a quiet kind of, kind of life. Well, I live in the center of town, but I don't subscribe to the fact that anyone goes mad. I'm happy by myself. I'm happy kind of having a quiet kind of life. Disagree with that. Well, I live in the centre of town, but I don't, you know, I'm not out every night, am I? No, but you surround yourself with things. I surround myself with filth. Yeah.

I surround myself with filth. It's like the old, have you had the Cole Pilkington take on The Countryside? He's like, well, everyone says The Countryside's amazing, it's brilliant, but it's all bullshit because as soon as you go there, there's no one there. Exactly. So if you liked it that much,'d fucking be there wouldn't you so maybe it's one of those things that grass is always greener type thing but um anyway should we um go away and come back and do some emails all right then we'll be back in a second guys

so the first step is to find the right position for you. Put your hands down and lower your chest to the ground. Just do that and pretend that you're holding poop in. And it should sound a lot like this. Oh, I still get a kick out of this, that guy. He died of asphyxiation, not pumps. That guy really sounds like someone famous. And I was trying to put my finger on it. Every time I hear it, I'm trying to put my finger on it, but I can't.

Well, when he's doing the voiceover, it seems that somebody's eating crisps. Yeah, they are. I don't know why. Probably gives you pumps. That is a man trying to show how you can suck in air into your bum and pump on demand. Yeah. It's a two-way street. The bum is a two-way street, guys.

Have fun. Knock yourself out. Something you famously used to do as a teenager? What do you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to be able to have a crack. My friends are better at it, though. We've spoken about it before.

We don't need to delve back into my anus. We don't need to. We don't need to do anything. All right. Let's start off on that bombshell. Let's start off. Bombshell. With an email from the beautifully named Bodie Carter.

Nice. Or Bodie, maybe. Bodie. Anyway, he says, hello, lads. Listening to episode 94 and hearing the chat about family members and the music business.

Bodie Cutler. Huh? Cutler. Cutler, that's what I said, didn't I? You said Carter. I meant Cutler.

Cutler. Yeah. He said, my father's not, and my ears were burning as Luke mentioned his connection to the Rolling Stones.

It's a very tenuous connection. But anyway, my father, Sam Cutler, is also a listener to your podcasts and was the tour manager for the Rolling Stones. It's a very tenuous connection. But anyway, my father Sam Cutler is also a listener to your podcasts and was the tour manager for the

Rolling Stones from 1960 to 1969. Oh, wow. Where he was a major character of the documentary Give Me Shelter. As a classic old

British man, he loves to yell about the football and look for other people, see you guys to agree or disagree with. Now that I work in football for the

Brisbane Roar and the Australian A-League, he has taken a keen interest in the podcast I listen to about football and enjoys yours immensely. Keep up the good work, lads. or disagree with. Now that I work in football for the Brisbane Roar and the Australian A-League, he has taken a keen interest in the podcast I listen to about football and enjoys yours immensely. Keep up the good work, lads.

Hope to hear more great work in the future. Sam Cutler, tour manager for the Rolling Stones, is listening to us right now. Is he listening to Luke and Pete show or is he listening to the Football Ramble? He emailed into the Luke and Pete show.

I know, it's confusing, isn't it? He's got a massive long Wikipedia article. Has he? Yeah. Cutler, the name comes from the maker of knives. Yeah, it does. I've not actually seen Gimme Shelter,

so I need to watch that. I might do that to bring myself up to speed and then reread this email when it's more relevant. But thanks for getting in touch, Bodhi. Great name, great email. Sorry to hear you're living in Australia, but good luck. That's rude. People in Australia listen to this.

I don't understand how people in Australia stay alive so long. Everything you touch there kills you. It's like Super Mario World. It is. Hello to, here we got Chris Hengler, who sounds like a matter of wrestler, Chris Hengler. Good name. In episode 95, you mentioned a women's magazine

called Top Tips which you justifiably thought was ridiculous but for me it took my mind back to a somewhat strange experience I had in a restaurant

in Serbia back in 2012 I think we were talking about a top tip that involved if you don't have a cup handy

carve a hollow out of pepper and drink water out of that which is weird in early 2011 I studied for a PhD in physics

the next summer I attended a summer school held over the course of about a week at the Pechnikata Science Centre for my friends at home I always describe this place

as the Serbian Kolomendi but for anyone not from Liverpool or the surrounding areas that's probably meaningless for Luke and Pete listeners it's basically

the Serbian Stubbington Study Centre, which is a real tongue twister for me. Right, okay. Now my interest is piqued. Yeah. One evening towards the end of the school, a large group of us took a short walk to a nearby restaurant. Most of the route involved walking

along a quite steep trail through the woods, lit by only our phones, but somehow we made it all in one piece. The food was actually quite good, but what more sticks in my mind is the accompaniment. Basically, a yellow bell pepper with its top cut off.

Inside it were two things. One stick of sliced cheese and a shot of vodka. Delicious. Isn't that weird? All the major food groups covered. In case that's all unclear, I don't mean there was a shot glass

inside the pepper. The vodka was just poured directly into the decapitated pepper. I can't speak there, sorry, and garnished with cheese sticks. Out of fear of giving your lessons a misleading impression of Serbian cuisine, I should probably point out that there were a number of Serbian students at the school. They were all

baffled by this, as the rest of us were. Of course, we were students, so we still drank it. All of which means that I confirm that hollowed-out pepper is indeed usable as a drinking receptacle, although quite how pleasant it would be with hot drinks, I suspect it might be a different matter. Thank you for the podcast. Chris, thank you for the message.

Great. All of that. I like restaurants where the person who's decided to open it, it's got like a little kind of mad idea that they think this is going to be our signature. Yeah. And it's mental. That little story reminded me of that show Ready Steady Cook right okay

where the chef gets like a bag full of ingredients and he's just got to make something out of it the contestants spent a fiver on yeah

in this case they spent a fiver on a pepper yeah a bottle of vodka and a load of cheese string someone else emailed in saying what you can do

is hollow out your peppers when you're having a barbecue right and use them to drink beer out of. And then when you finish drinking your beer, chuck them on the barbie and they taste delicious. A beer-flavoured pepper. Apparently it tastes delicious.

It's dicking about, though, isn't it? It is, yeah. You're just going to get pulled seeds out of your mouth. We used to put a can of beer up a chicken and put it on the barbecue and the beer bubbles out. Is it chicken but beer or something? Yeah, that's it.

Beer but chicken, I think it's called. Very weird. Do you want to do... I can't read this. Do you want to do I can't read this so do you want to do Daniel Barrell's email because it's a bloody doozy the title

the title being what dads bring home the flavour of deception oh Dan Barrell yeah okay right Dan Barrell here we go hi guys

I'm a long time listener to all of the Ramble Guys and the Leak and Puke show since day one road you called it that. And you finally draw me into emailing him for the first time with your discussion

on things dads bring home from work. My dad has worked as a flavorist. Sounds a bit like he runs some sort of reggae sound system. Flavor. The flavorist. Selectar. For over 30 years. What does this entail, you may ask?

Well, he is basically employed to formulate flavours by big-name food brands when they are thinking up new or improved products which they then purchase, must produce. Think Willy Wonka without the river of chocolate. Some of his greatest hits would tickle your 90s nostalgia fancy, such as Walker's Worcester Sauce Crisps. Yeah.

The caramel flavour in McVitie's Caramel Digestives, Lemon Fizzy Jerks, Apple Fruitangs, and Pineapple Flavoured Crisps, which bagged him an interview with a local paper. So he's responsible. Dan Barrell's dad, Mr Barrell, Old chems. He's responsible for this in his lab. As part of his work, he would often bring home a variety of weird

and wonderful treats for me and my sister to taste test. My favourite being a range of 20 different formulations of chocolate, vanilla and strawberry milkshakes that we had to try and rate.

That's the dream right there when you're a kid. Best dad ever. Dad of the year. What's your dad brought home? 20 different milkshakes? Cancel my homework. One day when I was about seven or's your dad brought home 20 different milkshakes cancel my homework um one day when i was about seven or eight dad came home excited to give me a few samples of

a pineapple chewing gum that he had been working on for a number of weeks and wanted my opinion on as always i was happy to oblige and popped a nondescript white gum in and got a chewing after a few seconds i was intrigued and asked my dad to clarify what flavor it was meant to be pineapple was the response as i continued to chew i became more and more confused and pointed out to my dad this one was rubbish it didn't taste anything like pineapple and almost tasted smoky to which he simply replied huh how odd it went down really well in our taste test never mind he passed me the next gum sample which tasted a lot closer to pineapple we moved on so fast forward 20 years to last may

and a square and a hamburger my stag do i overhear my friends talking to my dad about his job as it often tends to insult a number of questions when he tells people what he does my dad a few beers deep at this point explains to one of my mates that he used to mess around with flavors all the time such as making a strawberry flavor but putting it into a green sweet which tricks your brain to pre-empting an apple lime or mint flavor and takes quite a while for your brain to adjust he then went on to explain that he once put a smoky bacon flavoring into a chewing gum and gave it to me just to mess with my head at which point i piped up for 20 years he kept the secret from me and to this day i can still remember the unpleasant experience of the smoky flavor of that bloody chewing gum my mates were

thoroughly amused and questioned how i didn't put two and two together at the time. My only excuse is that clearly the trust I had in my dad went a long way to dispel any suspicion of being hoodwinked. To my knowledge, there are no surviving samples of the bacon flavoured gum available, though given the astronaut food that you recently devoured on the pod, if you do

have any requests, I could always see what dad can whip up. Yes, please, Dan, please get your dad to whip up anything and send it to us um one other fun thing he brought home for me and my sister was a bunch of rulers that were a solid block of glass with a vanilla pod in the middle wow fairly certain this would be uh not considered safe by any measure these days but it was certainly not because it was certainly not shatterproof it weighed an absolute ton and had sharp corners to boot but hey ho the 90s were a wilder time.

I hope you find this mildly amusing even if it doesn't get on the pod. Well, it is on the pod, Dan. And keep up the good work and I would love you to do a live show in the future in Manchester. Well, there is literally no demand for that, Dan, so that won't be happening.

Do you remember, I presume the vanilla pod glass ruler was from some kind of rep from the chemical company that provided a vanilla flavoring maybe yeah they provide it because my mom used to work at a doctor's surgery and all of the pens all of the rulers all of the calculators in the house um were branded up um with drugs so i had a feldine gel um calculator um and i remember my cd teachers are coming over and going

oh feldine gel i use that for my snowboarding injuries. Great merch. Great merch, guys. But that's wonderful. And what I like about that is that he knows through, you know, working in the business so long that the stupid flavours like bacon and chicken flavour and nonsense like that probably, they'd never come to market because they're just not marketable there's no point in

spending all that money you may as well make a delicious apple kind of flavored uh sweet rather than something novelty because that because there's like the top tier of kind of the chewarts and the fruit tellers and and the aforementioned um fruit tangs and then below that you've got the stupid stuff that you see uh that's made in like Turkey that looks like a little burger in a little burger that you always see at the counter in a shop. And they're like, nobody really gives a shit about them.

There's no marketing spend behind that. They're just whimsical and silly. And you only get them in... And I buy them every fucking night. You only get them in like local newsagents as well. Yeah, hugely. And one of the things

that local newsagents always do is they always separate multi-pack stuff and sell it separately even though you're not allowed to do that. Oh yeah massively. Used to sell

spare cigarettes. Fallon Chewing Gum I tried on Holloway Road which I believe is a Turkish brand tastes of nothing. Like it just tastes like gum without the flavour.

It's really weird. Yeah. Or maybe I just got a dodgy batch. One thing I would like from Old Man Barrel I shouldn't call him that it's a bit disrespectful

for Daddy Barrel. Flavour Daddy. Yeah Flavour Daddy Barrel is one of the things that's always intrigued me and perhaps he can help me with this and I'm relying on old man barrel I shouldn't call him that it's a bit disrespectful for daddy barrel flavour daddy yeah flavour daddy barrel is one thing that's always intrigued me and perhaps he can help me with this and I'm relying on you Dan

to go and speak to your dad and relay it back is roast beef crisps yeah they always taste the same but then they don't taste anything like beef well it's hard to do though

isn't it beef I think beef is like oil and texture isn't it yeah definitely and salt and I'm not slating them because I've eaten them i'm just saying why do we as a as a as a group of

human beings accept that they're branded up as roast beef and they don't taste anything like roast beef it's almost like roast beef crisp have a completely different life cycle to roast beef well prawn i mean prawn cocktail has the tang of the um mayonnaise kind of uh sauce with it i don't know what you call it's a thousand island dressing mary rose yeah like it has the tang of the mayonnaise kind of sauce with it. I don't know what you call it. Is it Thousand Island dressing? Mary Rose sauce. Mary Rose sauce. Yeah.

Like it has the tang of that, but precious little else. And it kind of smells a little bit like fish. Like that's, it's the whole experience. But yeah, meat must be quite hard to sort of do because it's all texture.

I think it would probably work more in chewing gum. So yeah, roast beef chewing gum, please. No, who wants that? It would be great. No,

but it would be great for people who are following a particular diet, protein head, stuff like that. Protein chewing gum. Chewing gum with like more protein than you need. But you're not consuming it

though, are you? I am. I love a bubblicious, that's what I, is a bubblicious kind of flavour of extra chewing gum? It's like, I don't know.

Lovely. I find that the only, the light blue Wrigley's Extra give me the flavour hit I need in terms of mint chewing gum. Airwaves, get on the airwaves, boss. They don't last very long. They're violent. I want that only the light blue Wrigley's Extra give me the flavour hit I need in terms of mint chewing. Airwaves, get on the airwaves, boss. They don't last very long. They're violent. I want to do one quick email before we go,

because this is a good one, and it's from David Tunnicliffe, who's emailing us all the way from Sonneberg in Germany. Hi guys, Pere Grundig's and the old wireless mouse. Nice. Good start. After listening to your discussion of expensive brandy and champagne, and particularly Luke's comment that you don't shop brandy,

my mind was immediately drawn to a video I saw of a man who purchased and drunk a shot of the world's most expensive brandy. Yes. Jason Wong, a Chinese businessman, paid 68,000 Hong Kong dollars, or roughly 6,500 pounds, for a single shot of Croisé Cuvée Leonie 1858 in 2016. He was presented with a drink at the Intercontinental in Hong Kong and set a Guinness World Record with his purchase. The reason the brandy is so expensive is because there was a plague of beetles called Phylloxera in the latter part of the 19th century which fed

on the roots of grapevines. The beetle was to north america and so the vines there had an inherent resistance however at some point the beetle made its way over to europe where it feasted on the much less resistant vitis vinifera with reckless abandon with their vine stocks falling many smaller wine and cognac producers were forced to give up the crop in flavor of cereals to ensure they could continue to earn a living from their fields any vintners wanting to continue to make wine and cognac had to plant phylloxera-resistant vines. In some cases, it took over a decade to find plants that would suit the soil conditions in a particular region,

and only the larger producers prevailed, and the industry changed beyond recognition in just a few decades. Anyway, for Jason Wong, the scene is set, the bottle is introduced, and the story behind the brand is explained to the gathered journalists. The sommelier does a fantastic job of opening the 160-year-old bottle, imagine if he'd fucked that up,

and pours Mr. Wong a glass of the world's most expensive brand. I've watched this. They're very careful to open it, and they do it beautifully. He proceeds to throw back his head and neck the entire shot in one. He does actually go for it,

and it lingers in the mouth for about five seconds and then he swallows it and then he just goes, yeah, thumbs up. Yeah. In what is an incongruously undignified end to such an expensive liquid

as David puts it. Apparently though, Pete, according to David, to add to the ignominy, Mr Wong's toast was in honour of Donald Trump who had been elected US President that very day.

It wasn't all bad though as the money raised from the purchase was donated to an AIDS charity in Hong Kong. You can watch the video yourself here, and you've already done that, Pete. So the world's most expensive shot of brandy was found in one by a Hong Kong businessman. And what I like about that is,

and I do say that quite a lot, what I like about that is that all of the people who are really at their cognacs and really at their, you know, again, fetishised drinking food and stuff, really upset about that. So maybe he's kind of my hero, apart from the Trump stuff. Well, if he was trying to subvert

it, then that's fine. But he's just obviously an idiot. See you later. I'm either going to be bullshit about this and stick two fingers out about how wealthy I am, or I'm just an ignoramus and have no idea about it. Tap the table.

But the thing is, though, Pete, I'm completely convinced, just so you know, if you put a five-pound shot measure of brandy in front of me and a six-and-a-half-thousand measure of brandy in front of me and I tasted them, I don't know if I'd be able to tell you the difference. I think alcohol that's really, really old starts to, you know, just by its very nature will start to kind of die, won't it? It'll just start to taste like absolute rot.

Well, you sometimes hear about those cases of wine that are found in shipwrecks and stuff, like hundreds of years later. I don't know if they're drinkable or not. It's out of vinegar, eventually. And I get that knowledge from the video game Day of the Tentacle, also another Tim Schafer jointfer have you got a tattoo of that no but if I was

I'd probably get the character Bernard because he has glasses like me when are you going in for your Luke and Pete show tattoo mate well it's next week

isn't it 100 yeah laps there we go 100 laps of the laps should we get out of here

Peter I think we've subjected the people to more than enough of our nonsense. Let's have some beef chewing gum. There's one takeaway from this show. It is beef chewing gum. Do email us at helloalookandpete show.com if you want to get in touch. We'd bloody love

to hear from you. You're all very welcome. And that's pretty much all I've got to say, Peter. You might want to bring the music in underneath me. You see a lot of weird flavours in American classic candy stores. You get a lot of weird flavours in American classic candy stores you get a lot of like root beers

that have the flavour of like ranch dressing and stuff they're not very nice but they do taste like the thing they're supposed to you're the sort of man who'd explore that sort of stuff

though aren't you hugely yeah alright we'll see you next week have a lovely time this weekend and we'll look forward to talking to you again

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