The Luke and Pete Show - Episode 99: Hunter S Thompson v Mark Wahlberg
Episode Date: September 17, 2018Hello everyone, we're back and we're talking about daily routines after Mark Wahlberg released his last week to much derision and confusion. There's more fuel to the crucifixion debate, and some time ...to dissect Pete's strongly held views on veganism and the environment. Strap yourselves in, plant fans!Elsewhere there's time for a Man v Lemurs incident, the lid is lifted on Pete's worst habits, and a startling revelation rears its head regarding an 80s Page 3 girl...If you want to contribute, you'd be very welcome: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com***Please take the time to rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Yeah, we're back.
Episode 99, as Pete said, gearing up for the big 100.
We're on the precipice of greatness.
Or just longevity, I'm not really sure which.
Welcome to episode 99 of Luke and Pete's show.
Unplanned half hour or so, but we just talk about whatever we want,
followed up by some of your lovely emails.
If you're a new listener to the show,
we'll judge each listener on their merits,
but you're probably welcome.
I just want their breasts.
That, of course, is Peter Donaldson.
I'm Luke Moore.
Recently on the Luke and Pete show,
we've talked a bit of Keith Moon, a bit of tech deck theft.
And if you're of my age, you might have to look that up.
Tech decks. Oh oh the tiny wee
um bit crucifixion chat yeah between friends i know a couple of people who are fascinated by
the idea that you don't die because of the nails you die because of your own body apparently well
i've got an update on that actually okay i've tried a bit of uh crucifixion myself the site
oh god although you can give us an update on that side of it, but the scientific consensus
apparently is slightly different
to the email we read out
recently,
more or not later.
A bit more of a village fates.
I mean,
I've never seen a crucifixion
at a village fete.
I thought you were saying
that there was some kind
of crucifixion situation
going on at the village fete
next to the coffee morning
bean or book.
Imagine that.
Imagine you wake up
Sunday morning,
have a coffee,
and you think,
it's a lovely day,
there's a village fete nearby.
It's a five minute drive away.
I'm going to walk. It's 15 minutes. And you get coffee, and you think, it's a lovely day. There's a village fete nearby. It's a five-minute drive away. I'm going to walk.
It's 15 minutes.
And you get there, and the first thing you're greeted with is a man,
a bearded man of about 30, on a crucifix.
Or a man getting his neck opened by a man in a hood.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not the spirit of things, is it?
It's not cricket, is it?
It's not dunk the clown, is. I mean, it's not the spirit of things, is it? It's not cricket, is it? It's not dunk the clown, is it?
No, it's not cricket.
And we also talked a bit about the most expensive brandy in history,
a taste of which was downed in one go and toasted to Donald Trump,
which, I mean, I wasn't expecting that.
Because if you're someone who is, I mean, admittedly,
there's a good chance that if you're someone who requests the most expensive tot of brandy around you're probably going to be
fairly obnoxious but there's an outside chance you might be a man of good taste yeah yeah that
wasn't the case in this instance no and him toasting donald trump i mean i think it's worth
um giving him a little bit of credit in that they didn't, he wasn't necessarily toasting
the character of Donald Trump. I think he was
toasting the idea that
one of the biggest economies in the world, one of the most influential
economies in the world, has a new
premier. We should celebrate that
and maybe he will bring world
peace. I mean, he won't. He'll fuck everything up.
Donald Trump looks like he has been toasted.
Doesn't he already? No, thank you. I've been
toasted quite enough. Thanks very much.
Yeah, so that's what's been floating our boat
sort of more recently, Pete.
Are we starting to get more?
I mean, we'll be more on this on Thursday
for episode 100.
Are we getting more reflective
as we approach the big number,
the big century?
Are you starting to sort of reassess
what you've been doing with your life?
Well, we're looking backwards and things.
Are you still enjoying it?
I'm still enjoying it. What, the show? Yeah. things. Are you still enjoying it? I'm still enjoying, what, the show?
Yeah. Yeah? Are you still enjoying life?
No, God no, never.
No? Never. Do you find yourself catching
yourself enjoying things and then stopping yourself? Yeah,
that's pretty much how my self
works. What's your threshold?
Well, I've sort of kind of cajoled myself into having
quite a canny
kind of lovely life, so
that anything that takes me more than an hour,
it really upsets me.
Like what?
Give me an example.
It's just anything.
Do you clean your own flat?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Washing up, cleaning, you know, sweeping,
anything like that.
Cleaning the bathroom.
My toilet's forever needing a scrub.
I think certain listeners and certain people on the internet
will be upset to hear that you clean your own flat
because I think they'd want to use that as a stick to beat you with. What do you mean? Well, I think they would expect you to have a scrub. I think certain listeners and certain people on the internet will be upset to hear that you clean your own flat because I think they'd
want to use that
as a stick to beat you with.
What do you mean?
Well, I think they would
expect you to have a cleaner.
No, again,
I'm a bit left wing
so I think you should
tidy up your own mess.
We've been through this
before on this show.
Yeah, but you can be
left wing and want to
put money into the economy.
Why should you clean
up your own mess?
It's stupid.
Well, no, I mean,
realistically,
you have to clean
as you go, whatever the situation, don't you, I mean, realistically, you have to clean as you go,
whatever the situation, don't you?
Because, you know...
I mean...
And the cleaner doesn't live with you,
following you around.
I had Lord Ramble,
after he'd been to cricket,
as a visitor one late night last week,
and he caught me in my pants
playing a first-person shooter
in a house that was only slightly livable in.
What time was this?
About 9pm.
And what day?
Monday?
Wednesday.
I think it was like,
yeah,
Monday,
Monday.
Yeah.
I will always accept guests,
but I'm just,
I will point out now that my house is frequently a shit pit.
Yeah.
What's your worst habit?
Well,
I live alone,
so not getting rid of empty shower gel bottles.
It's like a ball pool at the bottom of my shower.
That's the easiest thing in the world, though.
It's not.
Because you're in the shower and you're like, shower, shower, shower,
and then you're out, and then you're like, oh, shit,
I forgot to get the bottles out.
I mean, with respect, your flat is small,
so you can just go three or four steps into the bathroom and get them.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay, so that's your...
I live alone, I use my oven as storage.
I don't, I don't, but I'm thinking about it.
If that's your worst habit, that's not too bad.
I used to live across the road from a derelict building,
and now there's an office there,
so they always have high-powered meetings,
and I'm just walking around in my pants going, hello.
Is that the name of your first album?
I used to live across the road from a derelict building good all right um something that i that really um grabbed my
attention this week pete i'm hoping you're unaware of this because it's so up your street
that for me the sweet spot is finding something you're passionately interested in but also that
you haven't already seen yeah and because you're part internet it's very very difficult to do that
yeah um now tell me of the headline for this story floats your boat.
And I hope it floats those listening as well, their respective boats.
A lot of boats knocking about.
Listen to this.
Stoned Kiwi, as in man from New Zealand, breaks into zoo, gets bashed by tiny monkeys.
Gets bashed.
gets bashed by tiny monkeys.
Gets bashed?
A 23-year-old man who was high decided he wanted to grab and take home a squirrel monkey.
Now, there's many problems with that, of course.
Cruelty to animals being one.
Two being, apparently, it would massively break
quite stringent security and public health protocols in New Zealand
because they've got a big thing about invasive species
and all that kind of stuff.
If indeed it was in New Zealand, but anyway,
I imagine it would be a public health risk anyway.
But anyway, apparently he grabbed some bulk croppers,
smashed through a couple of padlocks because he noticed
that I think the security on that particular enclosure wasn't great.
It was the easiest monkey to grab.
I mean, yeah, and you would probably think that if someone said to you,
right, this message was self-destructing in a minute,
but here's what you've got to do.
I'm going to kill all your family or whatever.
You've got to go and steal any type of primate.
I would watch that film.
From a zoo.
It would be a good film.
You'd probably go, I mean, you would be forgiven for going
for a squirrel monkey because they're small.
They're quite small
yeah
and adorable
they've got cute
little noses
so apparently
so he goes ahead
and tries to do this
he bypassed
an unsecured gate
broke through two padlocks
and it wasn't his inn
it was at Wellington
in Wellington Zoo
apparently
and he was in a
catchwander zoo
of squirrel monkeys
he wanted to take it
home to his girlfriend
I mean the exuberance
of youth
what actually happened and sadly two of the squirrel monkeys were injured in this incident he wanted to take it home to his girlfriend. I mean, the exuberance of youth.
What actually happened?
Sadly, two of the squirrel monkeys were injured in this incident,
which obviously is dreadful.
But the name of the guy, which escapes me, John someone,
John sadly came out of the cage with a broken leg,
two fractured teeth, a sprained ankle,
and bruises all over his body.
Sorry?
How did he do that?
Apparently they just descended on him.
You can't break,
a squirrel monkey
cannot break someone's leg.
He clearly just fell over.
How many of them know?
Listen, you know that
age-old question about
would you rather fight
like a lion-sized duck or
Well, he got his answer,
didn't he?
Yeah.
He got his answer.
They're the injuries
he came out with.
10 squirrel monkeys.
How did he get
the two fractured teeth?
Why don't you just
give him a right-hander?
I love it.
I love that.
Smashed a nut in his face.
Squirrel monkeys are not
squirrels, Pete.
Don't be a dick.
The only thing that could
make this story better
would be if he came out
covered in monkey shit
because they were just
flinging shit at him
from the tree.
I think I always find
that chimps throwing shit
and monkeys throwing shit
has been a bit of a
misnomer.
I worked in a zoo.
I never saw that happen.
I saw the master bit
lots of times.
Because they see you as a kindred spirit. I worked in the zoo. I never saw that happen. I saw the mastabite lots of times. Because they see you
as a kindred spirit.
That's why.
But apparently this guy,
he had been,
he was wanted for a load
of unrelated offences anyway.
Oh.
Monkey related offences?
Yeah.
Does that count as unrelated?
Other ones, yeah.
Other ones.
And so he ended up,
I think he ended up
going inside for a bit.
But apparently,
yeah, squirrel monkeys
only grow to 35 centimetres
and weigh no more
than a kilo
aww
that's so cute
but they've got the
largest brain to body
mass ratio of all the primates
including us
so they're probably
out thoughting
setting a series of
challenges
so he can get out
it's like Home Alone
before you start
yeah it is
but there you go
so I thought you'd
enjoy that mate
I did enjoy that
you hadn't seen that
story before no
no I hadn't
and on the football
ramble our other our sister station,
our mother station, if you will, our mothership,
I had a nightmare, didn't I, with the old monkeys.
I was trying to count to ten kinds of monkeys.
You didn't even say squirrel monkey.
No, I didn't, no.
They don't come to mind, to be honest.
But I did say lemurs were monkeys.
They are primates, but they're obviously...
I was surprised when you said that.
And I called you out on the show.
And I think it's a sort of error that a man of your
estimable
knowledge
shouldn't be
I got confused by their
by their tails
I always think
because all monkeys have tails
macaques are monkeys
but lemurs
as far as I understand
lemurs have
have evolved independently
and you only get them on
what Madagascar maybe
yeah
and so that
that's why they've evolved
completely different
to everything else.
More natural predators.
They've got two tongues.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah.
One hard tongue to groom each other.
Oh, keep going.
I'd love a second tongue.
It's not one of those Japanese porn movies, is it?
You know, also, one thing that's fascinating about that,
do you know the species native to Madagascar called the aye-aye?
It's got a really long
end of a finger.
to get termites and stuff.
Well, apparently,
evolutionary speaking,
that finger performs
exactly the same role
as woodpeckers do
in Northern Europe.
Ah, exactly the same thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tapping and pulling out
bugs and that kind of stuff.
Grubs and that kind of stuff.
It works in exactly
the same way,
but it's evolved independently.
Divergent evolution, I think it's called, or convergent evolution.
They look like bats, they're weird little things. If you're ever lucky enough to be
in a zoo where there's an aye-aye you will rarely see them because I think they're almost
completely nocturnal, they're incredibly strange things.
They've got one at Bristol Zoo and it's almost impossible to see it and it's in the, what
would you call the enclosure where it's always night time nocturnal enclosure
and it just sits
at the back
but the thing about that is
the reason they became
so endangered
is because local people
thought that they would
steal their souls
if they caught eye contact
with them
which if you come from
a different background
to us
it's sort of understandable
really
that's a spooky looking animal
yeah absolutely
if I saw one now
if I'm walking back down
you know upper Street in Islington
and I'm presented with an IR
going through one of the bins,
I would shit a brick.
I'd absolutely shit a brick.
But he's like the,
I don't think he's the spookiest thing,
Paul Bearer from the wrestling.
If you saw Paul Bearer
walking down the street.
That's his full name,
Paul Bearer from the wrestling.
If you saw him walking down the street
with an R and you'd be like,
oh, he's standing away from that guy.
But I find it-
He's either spooky or mental.
I'm not having either.
No, it could be both.
I've got a situation where a fox keeps digging up my garden.
So I have to keep going out there
and repairing the flower beds and stuff.
And if I go out there on my own at night
and I come face to face with a fox,
I wouldn't say I'm scared,
but there's like an element of sort of intimidation.
And that's just a fox.
And I know I read that tabloid story years ago
about the fox that
stole that baby or whatever.
I know that's probably
not true.
I can't really remember
the detail.
But there's an element
of jeopardy there.
If you were living in Africa
or somewhere where they
actually have quite
dangerous animals,
you went out to your
back garden.
I mean, it happens up
in where my wife's from.
Sometimes you get bears
going through the bins
and stuff.
You absolutely shit yourself.
I've got to go camping
in Zimbabwe
in a few weeks' time.
Well,
that's a curveball.
Please tell me more.
I've got to go.
Remember,
I went to Kenya last year
and I saw that hippo
get hit in the face
with a tray,
by the way.
T-shirt.
Clang.
I've got to go to Zimbabwe
in a week's time
and I've got a bed down
in a tent, I believe. What's the... Save charity. Okay. I've got a bed down in a tent, I believe.
What's the...
Save charity,
practical action
to do great work
in, yeah, Zimbabwe.
Oh, we'll look forward
to hearing about that.
Zimbabwe's like a...
Like, you've got to fly
to either Nairobi
or you've got to change
in South Africa
and fly back up again.
It's crazy.
Johannesburg,
you've got to fly back up again.
You can't fly direct
to Zimbabwe?
No, 16 hours.
Why can't you fly direct there
I don't know
it might be there
are you sure you can fly
to Harare though
no
you can't fly direct
or there's certainly
nobody
not anymore anyway
I was reading there
I think just the fact
the country's a bit
of a fucking mess politically
I think it's
or Zimbabwe's not allowed
to fly
they're one of those
kind of banned airlines
I read only this morning
you got a little sniffle I got a cough cough I've had a flight two weeks airlines? I read only this morning but you got a little sniffle.
I got a cough cough.
I've had it for like two weeks.
Terrible.
I was reading only this morning
and it's going to sound
like I'm saying this
to shit you up
but I genuinely didn't read it
and that they've banned
public assembly
in the short term in Zimbabwe
because there's been
a cholera outbreak.
Oh.
And I think they might be
quite close to declaring
a state of emergency.
Oh good.
Oh good.
I've had me... That might just be anticipation of Utah. I'd be in my to declaring a state of emergency. Oh, good. Oh, good. I've had me...
That might just be anticipation of Utah.
I'd be in my shots for Kenya, to be fair.
But if it ruins my holiday, it's too late.
It's not a holiday, it's a working trip.
No, if it ruins my holiday afterwards.
I've got an holiday afterwards, haven't I?
The only other question I had for you this time around, Peter,
is I was having a conversation with a couple of pals,
and I'm assuming you've got nothing to bring to the table today, so that's why I'm doing this. Right, okay. Is that a fair assumption? I've got a conversation with a couple of pals and I'm assuming you've got nothing to bring to the table today
so that's why I'm doing this.
Right, okay.
Is that fair?
What do you mean?
I've got a few things.
Oh, go on then.
No, you go ahead.
Mark Wahlberg's daily regime.
Absolutely great.
You're bang on to bring this up.
Now, one thing that hasn't been made about this,
do you want to take listeners through it quickly
in case they haven't heard it?
Mark Wahlberg is currently training for some film where he's got to look a bit buff.
And everyone's going wild online about his...
It's called Mile 22, is it not?
Yeah, something like that.
And basically he posts on Instagram his daily routine.
And it's rather shocking.
Yeah.
It's weird and shocking.
2.30 a.m.
A.m.
A.m.
Wake up.
Already?
Already it's fucking bullshit.
2.45am.
Prayer time.
What's he doing in that 15 minutes, Pete?
Wank.
Quick wank.
He's probably spending 14 of those minutes going,
it's fucking 2.30am.
Why am I doing this?
2.45am.
Prayer time.
3.15am.
Breakfast.
That's half an hour for prayers.
3.40am to 5.15am.. That's half an hour for prayers. 3.40 to 5.15am a workout.
Then 5.30am a post-workout meal.
6am shower.
7.30am golf.
And he only has half an hour for golf.
Driving range, mate.
Just bang a few balls.
Hit a few balls.
8am snack.
9.30am cryo chamber recovery after the snack.
And that goes on for an hour. So he's got half an hour for golf and a.m cryo chamber recovery after the snack um and that goes on for an hour so he's
got half an hour for golf and an hour for a whole hour cryo you're only allowed to stay in those for
five minutes um 10 30 a.m snack uh 11 a.m family time slash meeting slash work calls no acting in
any no practicing his craft yeah um 11 a.m family time etc. 1 p.m. lunch, 2 p.m. meetings, work calls.
3 p.m. pick up the kids at school.
3.30 p.m. snack.
4 p.m. workout number two.
And then 5 p.m. it's a shower.
Then 5.30 p.m. dinner, family time.
And then 7.30 p.m. bedtime.
He's getting his head down at 7.30 to be fair.
Like my dad.
Apart from the workouts and the cryo chamber and the golf.
No, not enough DVDs.
If you're going to bed at 7.30,
and I understand people's body clocks are different,
so if you're going to bed at 7.30,
when you're getting up at 2.30,
that's seven hours or whatever it is.
That's okay.
Yeah.
That's not too bad.
He should have a snap.
This is a snap.
He should have a snack in the afternoon.
Sorry, not a snack.
Literally asleep.
He should have a little nap.
Why isn't anyone replying to him saying,
why are you telling us this?
Why are you telling us this?
Well, it reminded me of the Hunter S. Thompson's daily routine.
I haven't seen that.
Do you remember reading that back in the day?
This was in his biography by E. Jean Carroll.
The Strange and Savage Life of hunter s thompson
a little bit different to mark walberg's yeah 3 p.m rise uh 305 shivas regal with the morning
papers dunhill uh dunhill cigarette 345 cocaine uh 350 another glass of shivas dunhill um uh 405
first cup of coffee Dunhill 4.15
more cocaine
4.16
orange juice
in the Dunhill
4.30
cocaine
4.54
cocaine
5.05
cocaine
5.11
coffee
Dunhills
cocaine then coffee
that's overkill
I mean I know the Dunhills
are taking the edge off
I don't know but
5.30
more ice in the Sheevas
5.45
cocaine 6pm grass to take the edge off 5.30 more ice in the Sheevas 5.45 cocaine
6pm grass
to take the edge off
do you know what
the big difference
Pete apart from
the obvious between
this and Mark
Woolberg is that
Hunter S Thompson
has clearly had to
have someone else
doing this for you
this is probably
more accurate
because they're
literally just
watching what he's
doing
7.05pm
Woody Creek
Tavern for lunch
Heineken
two margaritas,
two cheeseburgers,
two orders of fries,
a plate of tomatoes,
coleslaw,
a taco salad,
a double order of onion rings,
carrot cake,
ice cream,
bean fritter,
Dunhills,
another Heineken,
cocaine,
and for the ride home,
a snow cone.
I've got no problem
with any of that.
Which is a glass
of shredded ice
over which is poured
three or four jiggers
of shivers.
9pm, cocaine, 10pm, drops acid uh 11 p.m chartreuse what's chartreuse chartreuse it's some kind of liquor isn't it uh cocaine and grass um there's a lot of uppers and downers
there isn't there chartreuse is a french liquor yeah yeah up and down um 11 30 cocaine midnight
ready to write.
A lot of prep.
A lot of prep.
And then between 12 and 6 in the morning, cocaine, grass,
coffee, Heineken, clove cigarettes, grapefruit, Dunhill's,
orange juice and gin.
6 a.m., he ends the evening in the hot tub,
Fettuccine Alfredo, Dove bars and champagne.
Dove bars is the soap, is that right Dove Bars?
Dunno God knows
He's getting grapefruit in there
you've got to get your five a day
Yeah and then 8am
he takes Halcyon
which is I think
an old school
opiate sleeping tablet
and then 20 past 8
he's asleep
20 past 8 huh?
I mean
so that's what's going to happen
for episode 100
that's what we're going to do
Yeah
we'll follow his routine
apparently 12am ready to podcast Dove Bars is an American ice cream apparently happen for episode 100. That's what we're going to do. Yeah, we'll follow his routine. Apparently,
12am, ready to
podcast.
Dove Barr is an
American ice cream.
Oh, right, okay.
Ah, that makes
sense.
So, I mean, who's
got the more
healthier lifestyle
there?
I think really you've
got a pitch in
between, haven't you?
He was very svelte
as Hunter S. Thompson.
Yeah, for all that
food.
All that food.
The experience I have
of people behaving in that way,
which is obviously not as experienced as Hunter S. Thompson,
is that they're all quite skinny because they just don't eat.
Yeah.
None of them eat.
There's no time for food.
If they drop that much fucking chisel,
they would probably,
surely their bodies would work off the muscle,
work off the fat more, maybe.
I don't know.
Maybe.
You're a much slimmer man than me,
so why don't you tell me what you like.
I do like cork, isn't it?
I like cork.
There we go.
I think if you're aiming for some sort of daily routine,
don't go too far, Wahlberg,
but don't go too far, Thompson.
A little bit of what you like does you good,
but everything in moderation.
I was waiting for Mark Wahlberg to have the bit in his day
at three in the morning to go out and repair the flower beds
because the fox has dug it up again.
No, none of that.
There we go.
All right, listen.
Speaking of eating well, before we get to any emails,
I know we're cracking on a bit.
Actually, we'll do a quick ad break,
and I'll come back with my thoughts on veganism.
Good.
The problem appears to be...
We had him last week.
Let's have someone else.
So the first step is to find the right position for you.
Put your hands down and lower your chest to the ground.
Just do that and pretend that you're holding poop in.
And it should sound a lot like this.
Great payoff, that.
Someone on WhatsApp just sent me a sexy lady in the form of an ASCII little picture.
It's a pregnant lady.
Is it?
Oh.
Yeah.
I think she's just sticking her belly out.
Yeah, maybe.
For effect.
I was just writing down the time.
And that's why I didn't give her my seat on the tube.
ASCII lady, get off.
You just made her characters, mate.
The age-old saying about veganism. I'll start you off here. asky lady get off you just made a character's mate the age old
saying about
veganism
I'll start you
off here
I'll start the
countdown
you can take
the full explosion
the age old
saying about
veganism
is how do you
know someone's
a vegan
because they've
told you or
something
because they tell
you
so why don't
you take the
floor and tell
us your thoughts
it's not my
thoughts I was reading in the Guardian we talk a lot about the meat disgusting rag or something? Because they tell you, yeah. So why don't you take the floor and tell us your thoughts. It's not my thoughts.
I was reading in the Guardian,
we talk a lot about the methane.
Disgusting rag.
Disgusting rag.
We talk about like methane
and basically livestock
and if we all gave up meat,
we'd have a very different situation
when it comes to releasing methane.
Consumption of meat
is one of the worst contributors to climate change.
Exactly.
But the carbon cost of ploughing fields for preparation for growing things
is almost exactly the same.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Yeah.
So up to 70% of the carbon in our cultivated soils has been lost to the atmosphere.
So obviously when you rotate a crop field,
you're releasing a lot of carbon dioxide.
So if you're kind of, unless you're sourcing your vegetarian,
vegan products specifically from no-dig systems,
like organic systems, you're basically participating
in the same destruction of soil biomass
and basically releasing, you know, promoting a system
that deprives other species, including small animals, birds,
and reptiles of the conditions for life
and significantly contributing
to climate change yourself.
So we can't win, Luke.
We can't win.
We shouldn't.
Let's just kill ourselves.
Why does everything end like that with you?
Sypical.
We've got to become one of those
weird cults that insist
that all they need is air and sunlight.
Yes.
And they all die.
I do that.
They all die eventually, don't they?
So basically, there's nothing we can do is what you're saying.
No.
I wonder if we could find out the most environmentally friendly way to live in terms of your diet consumption.
Because I knew the fact about meat, but I didn't know anything about that stuff.
And one of the other things that contributes, far as I'm aware is this idea that,
so back in the day,
it used to be,
lots of food used to be seasonal.
So if you wanted an apple in March,
You're out of luck, mate.
Yeah, because they harvest
in September or whatever.
But when people started
to get obviously cheap travel
and fly and freight
and that kind of stuff,
you go and buy some blueberries
from Sainsbury's
and they come from Chile
or something.
I remember a time
when you just couldn't
get certain fruits
at various times.
I seem to remember
there being a lot of
starfruits around.
We don't eat as many
starfruits anymore.
They never really float.
I used to see them
but I don't think
I ever used to have them.
No.
Have we ever had a starfruit?
I don't think I ever have.
No, I don't either.
What's inside them?
Do you have to peel it?
Yeah.
They look like quite waxy
kind of...
I've never had one.
Are they citrus fruits?
They look like citrus fruits.
Yeah.
Maybe we should get rid of the older generation
in a method I like to call ubesute.
Ubesute.
Ubesute, yeah.
Ubesute, which is a Japanese,
it literally means abandoning an old woman.
Right.
Sounds like a spin-off of Uber.
Abandoning a parent is the mythical practice of genocide in Japan,
where you just take someone up a hill and just leave them there.
I mean, what?
How is that even a thing?
What do you mean?
Well, that's how they...
What, to kill someone?
Yeah, well, if...
Because they can't fend for themselves.
Yeah, if the family feels like the older generation isn't...
It's not effective to keep them alive.
They just take them to a,
they used to take them to a big hill
and just leave them there.
Was there loads of them up there then?
I think so, yeah, apparently.
I mean, it's reported that this is mythical, but.
Right.
Sunnyside has been practiced by,
or killing,
the killing of older people
have been practiced by a lot of people.
Once they start becoming a burden
on the society and the community, you just take your parents out.
How awful.
The Inuits, that was a big thing with them, wasn't it?
I don't know.
Leave them on a glacier or something.
What does Stuart Donaldson think about this?
Well, TikTok, that's all I'm saying.
TikTok, I point to the watch he gave me.
It reminds me of that advert with Peter Kay
where he takes his mum to the old people's home.
And she's like, I'm only 55.
And he's like, come only 55 and he's like
come on
and he puts a snooker
snooker table
in her bedroom
whatever
shall we do a couple
of emails
alright then
I did promise an email
vis-a-vis
the crucifixion
the crucifixion situation
oh yeah
the crucifixion situation
and this one's from Nick
it's a bit of an update
now we reported
a couple of episodes ago
or so
that when you are crucified, apparently,
the way you die is asphyxiation.
It's not anything to do with the bleeding to death
out of the wounds or anything like that.
Apparently, it's asphyxiation.
But Nick from Manchester has been in touch.
He said, hi, guys.
The real reason for death by crucifixion being asphyxiation
is, I'm afraid, a myth.
All of this is from the excellent Mary Roach's book, Stiff, which is about the various uses of dead bodies guys the real reason for death by crucifixion being asphyxiation is i'm afraid a myth all of
this is from the excellent mary roach's book stiff which is about the various uses of dead bodies for
the purposes of anatomy labs and research and the like and highly recommended the myth comes from
dr pierre barbet who seems like a mix of the worst aspects of science and religion in a shit bag of a
human being first what you really think nick most of his research was around proving the veracity of
the shurin shroud a counter study from fredugibe showed that it's easy to stand in the position you would be if crucified for well over 45 minutes.
Now, I don't necessarily think that's relevant, because if you're going to be crucified, they're not going to go,
oh, we'll give you half an hour.
They're going to say, you're staying up there, big lad.
Good luck.
Anyway, a literature review from Maslin and mitchell showed that there could be
several possible causes but there's no support for the suffocation theory now apparently um some of
them are cardiac rupture heart failure hypovolemic shock acidosis asphyxia arrhythmia and pulmonary
embolism can i can i add on we to that list just bored, just bored. Just, ugh. One of the...
This sucks.
See if you can guess another one,
which I purposely haven't included there,
which I think you'll find fascinating.
Give me another way that people crucified 2,000 years ago
or whatever could possibly die.
Spine problem.
The vertebrae, slip disc.
That's more exciting than that.
Oh.
And more vicious.
Is it up my street?
I think you'll find it interesting.
Think about what we talked about at the top of this.
Think about what we talked about at the top of this.
Prypism?
When the man who jumped into the monkey cage.
Oh, I don't know.
Attacked by wild animals.
You're nailed up there, mate.
You can't defend yourself.
Yeah, but you're pretty high up, aren't you?
Unless it's an elephant.
Oh, it's a giraffe.
Got it. It's going to nibble my... They're here before, so you'll be fine. yourself. Yeah, but you're pretty high up, aren't you? As an elephant. Oh, it's a giraffe. Gutted.
It's going to nibble my...
They're here before, so you'll be fine.
Yeah.
Yeah, apparently attacked by wild animals has been reported.
Oh.
There we go, see?
The crucifixion conversation will just run and run.
Let's ask the...
When was the last one done?
Saudi Arabia, was it?
Yeah, about 2015, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Let's ask those guys.
There we go.
Oh, there you go.
Have you got an email, Peter, next?
I've not got an email
because I'm in the wrong account.
Do you want to do one more?
Sure.
I'll jump in
and then that'll be in the show
and we'll get on the 100 one.
That's the spirit.
That's the spirit.
What do you want?
Do you want butterfly effect?
Do you want more parachute chat?
Do you want First World War chat?
Do you want tall person problems?
Do you want
Dad's bringing home stuff from work?
Oh, Dad's bringing stuff home from work please
okay and the final one was gonna be about meatloaf so we'll go with this one um this is from oh it's
anonymous the guy doesn't want to be named weak and uh and cowardly um so he says hey luke and
pete so i'm just writing down crucifixion here for the right synopsis later okay um hi luke and
pete catching up on the podcast and heard you talking about dad's bringing stuff home from work growing up my dad
owned a local news agent and once or twice a year he would hit the jackpot um it's not a local news
agent to me because it's far away yeah okay growing up my dad owned a news agent thank you
um depending on where you live it could be described as local. And once or twice a year, he would hit the jackpot.
He would come home with a couple of retail boxes of Panini stickers.
Oh,
wow.
They would have got lost in transit between the depot and the shop.
And we're talking world cup and premier league.
Me and my sister would diligently sit in the living room,
opening a pack after pack after pack,
organizing them by number and getting RSI from the peeling and sticking
hundreds of them into our album.
We had about 10 years worth of complete albums.
The best bit was being king of the school playground
for the next few weeks,
dishing out unwanted swaps
for whatever snacks my mates
would have in their lunchboxes that day.
I prefer to stay anonymous
so as to not incriminate my dad.
Keep up the great work.
Now, that's a brilliant story on the face of it.
It's ideal if you're 12
or whatever
or 13
you're loving that
but I put it to you
Mr Pete Donaldson
that part of the
attraction of stickers
is the jeopardy
is that
will I get the one I want
can I swap with my pal
if you've got all of them
if you've got the keys
to the castle
spoils it
and also
but then
even then
even in a box full of
stickers
that doesn't guarantee
anything in particular
does it
no
but I mean
sooner or later
you are going to hit
the jackpot
and especially with
modern
collectibles
things like
Magic the Gathering
and stuff
there's a
pretty decent trade
of people
opening up the boxes
and then resealing them
in a professional manner
and then selling them
more
rare cards
off
excuse me that's
why we can't have nice things but there's a thread about modern life here and it's as you get older
and it's as you get access to more sort of for want of a better word stuff the jeopardy in panini
is are you going to get what you want yeah the idea of enjoying music for me was maybe only being
able to afford one cd and having to think very carefully about which one I wanted
and then ruin the decision if I got it wrong or I didn't like it.
It's the same when you've got a bit of disposable income
and not even that much.
You go into a shop and you say,
do you know what, I fancy a little sweet treat.
And you can afford all of them.
So you think, well, I don't know what I want
because I can get everything.
And I think that's a really underrated and sad part of growing up. Yeah, because you can just get everything you want. Yeah. Well, get everything. Yeah. And I think that's a really underrated and sad part of growing up.
Yeah, because you can just get everything you want.
Yeah.
Well, not everything, but...
With anything that you would want.
It doesn't happen to me with cars.
Anything.
Or houses.
Anything that you would want if you were like 10.
Everything I wanted at 10, I could buy now.
And that's the most depressing thing.
And what were those things?
Top three things that you wanted when you were 10?
New inhaler?
I think I probably said this on the show before,
but I remember telling my teacher,
it was like, if I was a millionaire,
very capitalistic kind of way of doing an assignment
for the teacher, Mrs. Barlow.
She said, right, you've got to write a story
about what would you do if you were really, really rich.
And I wrote, I would...
She's looking for ideas.
I would make... No, I didn't She's looking for ideas. I would make...
No, I didn't say make love.
I said I would sleep
with Samantha Fox.
How old were you?
I didn't really know what...
Eight.
I didn't really know...
You couldn't do that now.
It's a bad example.
Well, no,
I know it's a bad example
and it showed me
it'd be a right little wrong.
I didn't know
what sleeping with someone was
and I didn't know
who Samantha Fox was necessarily. What did the teacher say say uh she was like do you even know what that means
she got really annoyed about it but then that was the same teacher who came um back from a weekend
and made us um disassemble um or analyze the lyrics to the song lisa stanfield uh
been around the world and i i can't find my baby because I think she'd been
through a breakup
wow
and she was asking
primary school kids
to
pretty specialist
teaching
she was literally
but I don't understand
it's because
she's lost her baby
and she's looking for her baby
yeah
she loves this man
and she was clearly
going through something
this student teacher
this young teacher
she's trying to
poor Mrs Barlow
she's throwing herself
into her work
but Pete why did you think because given the way that story about Sam Fox This student teacher. This young teacher. Poor Mrs Barlow. She's throwing herself into her work.
But Pete, why did you think,
because given the way that story about Sam Fox,
it was framed by your teacher as what you would do if you were a millionaire.
I also said that I, well, I'll be rich and famous
and be able to romance Samantha Fox into bed,
but sleep, like sleeping with Samantha Fox.
I think she'd get anywhere.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, you weren't to know that when you were eight.
No.
Well, I clearly wasn't to know what sleeping was and why.
No.
It's a very cynical sort of thing that money and influence would buy me
the chance, the opportunity to hang out with Samantha Fox at eight years old.
Yeah.
I can remember when I was about the same age,
a group of kids in my school.
So we would have been, I probably would have kids in my school, so we would have been,
I probably would have been a bit older,
maybe we'd be about 10.
I remember a group of boys in my school
saying that they wanted to start a petition
to have a condom machine in the boys' toilet
at 10.
And looking back,
you've just reminded me of that.
And looking back on that now,
that's mad.
Because there's absolutely no reason
for that to exist.
Mark, who went to
an all-boys Jewish
school in North London, Haberdashers,
who's a fellow who does
Ali G, Sacha Baron Cohen,
he was in, I think he was in
either Mark's class or
Mark's year, or maybe a couple of years
or one way or another, and he
started a petition to put a
tampon machine in the boys toilet
that's
mental
that's mad isn't it
I think he got
I think he might have got it
no shut up
I think he might have got it
I don't know
that's what Mark says anyway
alright on that
absolute
bombshell
I also said I wanted to own
a oil company like GR
from Dallas
now you're talking
that's good stuff
that's how you
you were a young capitalist
I love it and you've never deviated from that and sexual deviant as well now you're talking that's good stuff that's how you you were a young capitalist I love it
and you've never
deviated from that
and sexual deviant as well
and good for you
it's not right
I'm disappointed
with my 8 year old self
as 8 years old
you wanted to romance
Samantha Fox
on an oil rig
good for you
an oily
both of you
dressing overalls
oily Samantha Fox
yeah you've got
a big ratchet
over your shoulder
steady
right
we're back on Thursday
for episode 100.
What?
I thought this was episode 100
when I came into the studio.
Strap yourselves in, guys.
It's going to be probably...
The same.
Yeah. you