The Luke and Pete Show - Finally! A Podcast Episode About Food Poisoning

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

How is Pete preparing his turkey for Christmas dinner this year? By sticking it in the freezer, of course. Pray for his guests, particularly when it sounds like the rest of the day's food is going to ...be cooked in his airfryer.Elsewhere, and as the title suggests, the lads discuss several tales of food poisoning (unrelated to Pete's cooking, it has to be said), there's a good trip down memory lane discussing old video games and, for some reason, Pete attempted to close out the episode by speaking some Welsh. Subscribe to join us, and email whenever you like: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're back with the Luke and a Pete show on your Monday. I hope you had a good weekend. And I hope you've got all your prezi sorted. I hope you've got all of the food sorted for Christmas Day. Lukey Mill, what are we looking at right now in your household? I've prepared for Christmas. I have already bought most of a turkey. I bought a turkey crown.
Starting point is 00:00:29 that's in the freezer all ready to go and I'm looking forward to it I've booked a beef eater for Christmas Eve why is everything you talk about when it comes to Christmas like subpar
Starting point is 00:00:43 you're freezing the turkey why are you doing that Turkey's already frozen I didn't freeze it it was already frozen but I am if anything I am defraising
Starting point is 00:00:53 I know how much money you own get a fresh turkey you also know how much tax I've got paid oh that's true actually yeah Tis the fucking season. There's probably some loophole where the most expensive money is tax deductible or something.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah, it's technically a building material. Yeah. You used it as a sound proofing device. Yeah, exactly. So good of all of me. I'm not ready for Christmas, no.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I thankfully am in a position where my dear mother takes care of the kind of food arrangements. Right. Okay, nice. She asks for a few suggestions and bits and pieces, but other than that, generally takes care of it. She likes to host and have all of us down there. So that's
Starting point is 00:01:31 pretty easy. Decent. We're behind on presents. We haven't even got the excuse that we're in the US for Thanksgiving this year because we didn't go. Yeah. So we've got to get our act together pretty quick. I would say that on the Turkey thing, a nice little hack which worked out well for us for Thanksgiving that we had here because of course in the US they have Turkey at Thanksgiving. We had a Thanksgiving in the UK this year and we cooked. And I went to the butcher and said, look, I need a turkey because no one's selling them in the
Starting point is 00:02:00 supermarkets at the moment because it's too early obviously here we only sell them for Christmas and he was like okay I'll get you one what do you want and I said I want a turkey crown for about seven people yeah because it's just less mucking about in it the crowd yeah yeah and he was like yeah no worries it's fine however when he when I went to go and pick it up
Starting point is 00:02:18 he had accidentally or did you a big goat's head mentioned on the last head oh by the way speaking of that from Thursday I've got something to say on that I'll come on okay correct on He accidentally gave me a rolled, boneless breast. Oh, okay, right. I was like, okay, that's not what I wanted, but that'll probably be fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:37 And it was brilliant. Yeah. He had wrapped it. He had tied it up. He had put the rosemary in it. All that to do is put the bacon over the top and roast it, obviously. It came out an absolute treat. So I would probably recommend doing that if you want a faf free turkey thing going on.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Yeah. I mean, if you are, like, people, I've been watching quite a YouTube sort of, sort of documentaries but like sort of instructional about how to make your Christmas dinner better there's a lot of pissing about for a turkey to make it in any way palatable so like
Starting point is 00:03:05 if you can make that simpler yeah if people can sort of if you can sort of make that easier on yourself I think it's really sensible because it's the net result is it's turkey no one's ever good had a good turkey
Starting point is 00:03:19 I like no I did controversially I do like it when it's done nicely yeah but like it's never as good as any the meat, really. You're putting those in the freezer, so what do you expect? You're not going to get a good result. It's already in the freezer. I didn't, you're blaming me for freezing. It's already frozen. I am maintaining it. Yeah, it's fine. I can't, I don't, I don't have the fridge space. I don't have the time. I don't have
Starting point is 00:03:39 the admin to get myself a turkey on time. I don't want to talk to a big butcher. He's got knives. Leave him alone. If he was good with people, he wouldn't be a butcher. What you want to do is buy your fresh turkey on Christmas Eve. We'll pick it up on Christmas Eve. Order it, obviously. Pick out on Christmas Eve. just store it outside overnight. I'm going to be feeders on Christmas Eve. I'm not going to have time. What's happening here?
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's a good place to put your turkey in the boot of your car, if it's called. Yeah, so you can get it. You've got foxes where you are, haven't you? We have got a lot of foxes. Everyone's got foxes where they are. Very successful species, as I always say. They reckon that raccoon's going to be the next pet. Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I was well into that. Yeah, big fan. How did that happen? I don't know. I think just somebody just decided to go, The world's not getting any better, is it? Let's domesticate for fucking raccoons. Yeah, so apparently, I'm just looking it up now.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Apparently, raccoons are present in the UK as an invasive species. This is things that mainly come from escapes or releases. They're all over Cornwall, apparently. What? I've never seen a car. That's amazing. I wonder what damage they've done, because they're very, like you said, they're very successful as a species called.
Starting point is 00:04:54 They're absolute comedy as well. They do that mad thing where they freeze When they get caught doing something It looks at a cartoon I've seen them do it I've seen them do it Like there was one outside The bin shed thing
Starting point is 00:05:09 At the bottom of my wife's uncle's garden And sorry A street And someone put the light or flashlight on them And they just freeze like their hands up It's fucking funny It looks like they're taking the fish It's great
Starting point is 00:05:22 Anyway the turkey thing anyway That's a little tip for you if you're interested, don't put it in the air fryer, don't freeze it. But Pete and I disagree on that, fair enough. The sheep's head thing you were talking about on Thursday, I suddenly thought after we stopped recording, a good friend of mine, Carl, who listens to the show, and listen, he says he listens, so we'll find out, won't we?
Starting point is 00:05:46 We'll find out. He's got an amazing story about, and I'm not going to tell it, because I think he should email it in, because you're going to do it much better and more justice than me. he's got an amazing story about being sent by a company out to quite a sparsely populated part of Egypt to do some software programming for some hotel or something but it wasn't built it was it was very very out there I think it was at some big UNESCO world heritage site and um in kind of in a desert a couple hours flight south of Cairo or something like that and he was like the only at that point
Starting point is 00:06:24 I think he went ahead of his other team members, and he was about three weeks ahead of everyone else. And he was like the only Westerner there. Yeah. So they made like a big fuss of him and gave him this like ceremonial dinner in the desert. And, yeah, hijinks in sea. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Well, we're going to need that story, aren't we? Yeah, he's got to email it in. Maybe it was a little Christmas treat for everyone. But the way he was telling me that he was literally telling me the story in the pub about two weeks ago. And it was, it was brilliant. It was so funny. But he's probably a better story with her than me, so that's probably why.
Starting point is 00:06:58 True. But the reason it was of interest to me is because I think that I'm quite squeamish about awfully things. Right. Okay. And I think if I was in that situation that he described, I think that would be worse nightmare stuff for me. Yeah. Do you ever go for like, like, Sichuan cooking is, can be quite kind of, yeah, yeah, it can be quite. It's very spicy, a lot of stomach lining, a lot of, sort of, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:26 when you sort of see the little kind of hexagonal kind of pods inside the kind of fabric of the tubes and stuff, and you're like, yeah, that to me is God's way of saying, don't be eating this. Don't be eating this. It's too, uh, it's too organized, isn't it? It's amazing what the body decides to do. I don't like to think of my digestive system, digesting another digestive system. Right, okay, fair. It feels like it might open a portal.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I think if you just if you if it's when it's that hot though you don't actually you're kind of concentrate on the heat a little bit more one would suggest that's probably what I do it isn't it yeah probably you can get away with eating any old talk nonsense I'm kind of fascinated with by people who will eat anything I know like I can I can think of the people in my life who are notorious for just trying anything right I'm not like that so that's why it's no interesting to me but LC my father-in-law he's like that He's like, he's just really into food. So he'll just try anything.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Has he ever had a, what do you call it, a, one of those oysters? Is it a Plains oyster or a, basically a bull testicle? Has he ever had a bull testicle? Oh, so they're not actually oysters? No, they're not actually oysters. They're called something oysters and it's kind of like. Oh, is it a prairie oyster? Prairie oyster, that was the word I was trying to find.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Deep fried bull of calf testicles served as a delicacy with seasoning known as Rocky Mountain oysters. That could come back to haunt you. If someone said to me, do you want a Rocky Mountain oyster? I would say, yes, I like oysters. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I was like, this seems, it's a plump, very plump oyster, isn't it? That doesn't look good to me. That does not look good to me.
Starting point is 00:09:02 No. I'm sure he probably has. And obviously, our mutual friend who got quite severe food poisoning to the point where I think his digestive system is still affected by it today. Good God. But 10 years ago, for eating, like, horse salami in Kazakhstan or something. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that. that's the very definition of make sure you drink a can of coke afterwards.
Starting point is 00:09:25 You're thinking that would have helped? Apparently so, because the acid just kills. Yeah, yeah, just get a bit of kind of coke down you. But I was led to believe that in India... It probably would have been the water. It guaranteed it would have been the water as well. It wouldn't even have been the fucking horse meat itself. But I've been led to believe that in India, it's just part of it.
Starting point is 00:09:43 You're going to get there, you're going to get sick. Suck it up when you get past it, it's fine. But everyone gets it if they're Western. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's kind of I think you can be careful You can buy one of those little
Starting point is 00:09:52 Filtery machines Like it's like a little It's like a little water bottle It's got a filter in the top That you can just You can literally just fucking pull water Out of the fucking sewer And suck it down
Starting point is 00:10:03 And like I don't think That's not true You can do that you can do that You can do that Don't say that to people Peter I will say that to people With this little device That you put the top of water bottle
Starting point is 00:10:12 You can pull it out of an Indian sewer Or any sewer Any se the poop will be the same Yeah I completely, yeah, completely agree. I think you can. So you got to remember, you got to remember that, you got to remember that microbes, like, the, the reason filtration works is that it just pulls all of that shit out of your water.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I think it's more of a process than just that. Well, maybe there's some heat treated that. I'm fairly certain you, I'm fairly certain you can buy things, fairly certain. How fairly certain? I saw a man do it on the internet. Yeah, there we go. That's every one of your stories comes down for that. Pretty much
Starting point is 00:10:48 Pretty much What's the worst food poisoning you've ever had? It was I never started again I was pretty bulletproof I had bad stomachs all the time But that's just You've eaten an entire kind of pringles by myself
Starting point is 00:11:03 Overday It's not, it's just overindulgence Or just being stupid But yeah, bad guts Bad guts because of food I had my first one About Probably about six years ago
Starting point is 00:11:14 In Lisbon after I ate some dodgy veal and how do you know it was the veal what kind of makes you pinpoint that I just never really I'd sort of I was sort of hanging out by myself
Starting point is 00:11:27 so like I knew exactly what I'd eat and I wasn't with anybody I wasn't drinking anything and if I was gonna so it was just one of those kind of Lester Square kind of touristy places I was just really hungry and I'll just get something
Starting point is 00:11:38 and obviously Vigal is one of the more popular things out there but yeah just I'm not never eating veal again and not even fit ethical reasons just because I shut my pants. I went to, I think
Starting point is 00:11:51 it's probably not in Portugal, but you do get like ethical veal now, don't you? Or something? How does that work? I can't really remember. I think they just prepare it in a totally different way. Old veal. Old veal. Apparently rose veal comes from calves
Starting point is 00:12:07 raised with higher welfare standards. Right. Anyway. I think it's, I don't think it's the same white colour which they go for. It's horrible that. Anyway, I remember the reason I know exactly when it was is because I was in bed thinking I was going to die when Bradford knocked Arsenal out of the league up on penalties in 2012.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Were you delirious? That definitely happened, I think. Yeah. I think it was that delirious. But a few days before that, I had been to a Spurs game at White Hart Lane. I was running a bit late. No, it wasn't a Zania. That was funny.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I was running a bit late and I needed to get something to eat. I was starving. So I just stopped at this burger van and got a burger and wharfed it down. Yeah. And on that, for those who are listening, you know what it's like going to watch Spurs, there's a big long walk between Seven Sisters Station and the stadium, which I know is a new stadium now, but it's basically in the same place. About 25 minute walk.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And about halfway through the second half, I started to feel weird. But not like, as in, I'm going to be sick weird, just like, Woozy boozy. I'm sweating. Right, yeah. Things are a bit weird. and I was just very painfully aware quite literally of how far away I was from home
Starting point is 00:13:19 and it was pissing it down with rain as well and I walked back to the Seven Sisters station was brutal I ended up on my back for about a week and the reason I remember the Arsenal Bradford thing about three days later is because Bradford ended up knocking Austin out the League Cup on penalties and we were obviously doing the Rambler at the time
Starting point is 00:13:39 and I guess I had designs actually doing a show at some point so I was just wanting to watch the game could not get from the bedroom to the living room. Oh. I had to put it on the radio in the bedroom and listen to it because I couldn't move. It's more, and that's the dedication you get from Lukia Mill. Yeah, when it comes to the room.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I mean, with food poisoning, it's really bad. I know it sounds like trivial, but you genuinely feel you're going to die. It's the, it's the stomach cramps I can't handle. It's absolutely horrific. Like, it's just like, and it's just constant. And you're sweating, and it's coming out of both ends, and you're like, when is this ever going to end?
Starting point is 00:14:12 There's nothing you can do to me. make it better and it and it I didn't realize that um whenever I was sort of ill before I turned like 40 um things like you're ill for like not just a day whenever I'd stuff bad like stuff bad on my stomach it would last one day and then the next day I'd be absolutely fine yeah with that sort of thing you can be out of action for a week terrible that horse salarby one of a mutual friend of ours he said that was like two weeks and it was, like, existentially terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It's, yeah, yeah, I completely agree. It's like, yeah, but I mean, it's, it's, it's niche as, um, as epic, like it. Just all of the water. But if you're one of those people who is a super adventurous eater, that is a pitfall of taking those risks. Yeah, but the problem is, knowing how things get put together, there's risk, there's probably more risk eating a fucking, you know, pre-prepared, you know, oven-ready meal or something, knowing how
Starting point is 00:15:13 process is going to get together. There isn't. There isn't. I don't think even you think that can be true. You know for a fact. Exotic horse salami in Kazakhstan is more, less dangerous than eating an oven-ready meal in the UK. But if you're, right, look,
Starting point is 00:15:30 but at least with meat and just meat, you can smell it and go, hmm, that feels fine. You're getting a meal out of a frozen, you know, a frozen meal. You can't smell it. You can't smell that's gone wrong. It's prepared to food standards, though, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:15:42 And once you've cooked... Yeah, but, like, they don't follow food standards a lot of places. Like, the amount of times you get, like, salmonella outbreak, certainly in, like, America. Good God, every second company has a salmone. Cadbury's had one for a bit. Like, everybody, like, you can't... You're basically relying on a company's share price
Starting point is 00:16:00 to keep you safe effectively. Like, I think that you can, as a human, sort of smell the meat and go, this is bad, I'm not hearing this. Or if I am... Like your little motto? Smell the meat. smell the meat, drink the cork, yum, yum. On that note, by the way, have you noticed on Kellogg's cereal packets,
Starting point is 00:16:19 the boxes now, they say combat food wastage, if your food is out of date, smell it, check it before you chuck it away. If it smells fine, you can eat it. And I thought that's quite a risky thing for a company to say, isn't it? I think probably one of those kind of... I mean, I agree, by the way. Yeah, it's quite a risky thing to say. I think it's kind of, yeah, you are relying on people's kind of judgment a lot
Starting point is 00:16:44 and perhaps, you know, perhaps there is some kind of, like, legal classification that food companies can do this. But, like, I think with, maybe, like, corn flakes are quite inert. The sort of mold that grows on corn flakes is spectacularly colorful. Or you can really tell if it's gone off. I think surely they just go stale, don't they? The old, you know, it's not pleasant to eat, is it? No.
Starting point is 00:17:10 One of my favorite food poisoning stories is the story at the start of a book called Slaying the Badger. Right. By Greg LeMond, who's the first American to win the Tour de France. I'm familiar with Greg Lamont. He was a big part of a documentary I put together a little while ago. He's very charismatic man. For once, I will apologise for patronising you. I'm very sorry doing that.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But in the first chapter of his book, it's called Slaying the Badger because he's up against Bernard Inno, a great French cyclist, whose nickname is the Badger. Right. And no one in France wants him to win the Tour de France because he's American, right? So they're very snobby about it. Anyway, the first story is about how he's got a very fraught relationship with In O, who's a very complicated and difficult character. And he's got designs from memory, years since I read it, but from memory he's got designs on kind of repairing this relationship with him
Starting point is 00:18:04 because they're on rival teams and stuff. And because they're on the tour, they're living out of the, these kind of motorhome type things. Yeah. And he's got, and anyway, Greg Lamond eats a peach and it's a really rotten peach
Starting point is 00:18:18 and he doesn't know and it gives him food poisoning in the middle of the tour. So he's got the shits, right? And at one point he's desperate to go for a shit and he runs to this this motorhome type thing
Starting point is 00:18:30 to find the toilet. Can't make it to the toilet and accidentally shits all over these signed postcards of Bernardino he's giving up to fans. that's a real fuck you very enjoyable we should listen to we should listen to our listeners as it were
Starting point is 00:18:48 we should get them to send in their favourite everyone must have a food poisoning story send it in we'd love to hear we'll compile the best food poisoning stories it'll be a bit gross but it might be quite fun let's do that at some point should we have a break Peter let's please do that we're back from the break on the Luke and Pete show
Starting point is 00:19:05 now Richard's got in touch on the old email Luke and I feel I feel like my I feel like my head's exploded hide the Luke and the Pete one minute into today's shore into today's show
Starting point is 00:19:18 Pete proclaimed that lemmings say oh no before dying I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure he's confusing lemmings with worms regards Richard now
Starting point is 00:19:28 I'm fairly certain I'm like on this one you tell me your memory of this and I'll tell you my memory of it I think when you blow one lemming up, I think they don't say oh no. When you
Starting point is 00:19:42 use the function that blows all of the lemmings up at the same time, the nuclear bomb button. The nuclear bomb button. The little counter goes above their heads. I'm fairly certain the counter goes from five to one and then they say, oh no, they shake, they have a fit
Starting point is 00:19:58 and then they basically explode. And I'm fairly certain they say oh no at that point. Now maybe Team 17 also adopted the only or bits for worms. But I'm not even going to look because I am confident
Starting point is 00:20:13 that I might be right on this one, Lukie Moore. Yeah, so my memory is they definitely, Lemmings definitely said, oh no, even when you killed them individually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 A little counterweight above their head, five, four, three, two, one. Oh, no, and they blew up. Yeah. The nuclear bomb option, which is a brilliant way of ending a game. Because you could,
Starting point is 00:20:33 I mean, technically with Lemmings, you probably could have just pressed the end game and it could have ended, but they make you blow them all up, which is funny. now I think they definitely said oh no in lemmings so I would agree with you I think Richard is wrong
Starting point is 00:20:45 but I'd also add a further bit of seasoning to this conversation and that is that I think worms which I played a bit but not as much as lemmings from memory worms came along a lot later yeah it was a PlayStation one game I want to say maybe I can't really remember but that's where I played it anyway I think they the worms said different things depending on how they were killed and the reason
Starting point is 00:21:08 I'm saying that, oh no, I think probably was one of them. Right. But I remember, if you killed worms on a certain level in a certain way, they would say, I'll be back like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Nice. Okay. Yeah, that feels... Can you substantiate that?
Starting point is 00:21:23 That feels accurate. There's a lot of pissing about in worms. They had quite a lot of different games through time. And you can probably buy a copy of worms on pretty much anything that's ever had a microchip in the last sort of 20 years. but yeah I completely agree I think I think they did say different things I think they did play with the form a bit more
Starting point is 00:21:43 but because worms of one of those games almost like cannon fodder which was very knowing right it'd give you a wink it would give you a kind of like war has never been so much fun do you remember the canon fodder song
Starting point is 00:21:55 from the start of canon fodder war has never been so much fun war has never been so much fun it's a great game and it was created by Sensible Software, right? Yes, John Hare. John Hare, who I interviewed in COVID about sensible soccer. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yes, you did. But it never got released. I don't know why. I can't remember what happened. Let's put it out. Let's find it. There's loads of these little projects that we've kind of done over the years, isn't? I think what might have happened was during COVID, I was doing a lot of interview
Starting point is 00:22:28 because we needed stuff. And when you were doing your film club, I was just basically getting hold of people and saying, like, do you want to do an interview? Because we wanted to do episodes for people, because not. no one had anything to do. We also admittedly want to maintain our income as well. And I definitely interviewed John Head. I'll tell you why I definitely interviewed him because he called into my talk sports
Starting point is 00:22:47 show randomly and was like, oh, he was talking about, someone was talking about a new FIFA game or something. And he called in and was like, oh, this is why this has happened. Or something like, I can't fucking remember ages ago. And I just tapped him up on the ad break. I said, look, John, do you want to be on the Ramble? And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'm up for that. And I interviewed him.
Starting point is 00:23:06 fascinating interview, but for some reason it never came out. At least I don't think it came out. No. It'll be in a drop box somewhere. Which I loved. I absolutely loved it. They always say that they're going to, everyone gets very excited when sort of they're going to re-release, you know, a new version of
Starting point is 00:23:20 sensible soccer, but it was of its time. It's just not going to be anything that's close. My favorite fact about, my favorite fact about sensible, sorry about cannon fodder, which John Hare told me. And I never had cannon fodder because I think it only came out on the Amiga.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yes. And I don't have an Amiga. Right. And I think I was playing these games around Mateshouses and stuff because I had a BBC Micro, as I said to you. And then following that, I had a BBC Master. Anyway, I think I'm pretty sure I'm right in saying that they made Cannon Fodder
Starting point is 00:23:51 using the exact same game engine as the sensible soccer game engine. Right. They just changed, basically changed the environment. I don't know how you'd know more about this than me, but they basically changed the environment. Yeah. Similar vibes. Very, very green, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:24:06 wasn't it? A lot of the... A very top-down and kind of similar kind of controls or stuff like that. In the same where they made a space version of Sensible Soccer for Amiga Power One Christmas. Did they really? They did and the ball was very bouncy. That's funny. Because I remember always I always remember wanting to be the Crisp 11 on Sensible Soccer. The Crisp 11.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Oh yeah, because there was so many like custom teams and stuff. I went through, I think I went through like 20 seasons until the actual game just cocked it. sensible world of soccer was uh went through it brilliant well you could do transfers and stuff yeah that was uh that was the one for me and and there was one that i just went through 20 seasons of it never played a single game by myself i think i might have done a couple of f a cup finals um took new castle to you know champions league you know glory and stuff and just you know buying and selling players you know uh and it was a very simple version of like
Starting point is 00:24:57 football manager and oh god i love that game i remember i remember having a career mode on sensible World of Soccer and buy in Zendin Zadam for 5 million. I think it was the most exciting thing ever happened. But I can't remember even if they had better skills on the pitch. No, I think they would usually be a little bit faster, I think. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And the ball would stick to your feet a bit more I think in 50-50s. If you played it back now, do you reckon it'd be good? I'd think it'd be good for one game, but it's just things have changed, man. Things have changed. Because I remember being sick about two years ago and downloading golden eye
Starting point is 00:25:36 to the Mac book and had a controller you could just plug your controller let me guess you did two levels and then just it's fucking terrible it was so bad I've never been so disappointed you need a mouse though like I don't think that you can't
Starting point is 00:25:49 I never played it with a mouse in the N64 you're playing a heck yeah but a track pad oh gross no I didn't add a controller oh you had a controller oh I put the controller in yeah it was still terrible the graphics were appalling well I think they're
Starting point is 00:26:03 I think they're re-releasing a new one. It's one of those things that, like, how many times can you re-release this thing before everybody sort of realises that, again, it was of its time. Has more things. It was great nostalgia. It was great nostalgia.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Good soundtrack. Good, good storytelling in it. Like, it was cool. It was a very kind of, it's a very emotive game, I think, because you do feel a bit of the time. You massively felt like you changed. I love the three difficulty levels
Starting point is 00:26:31 because you had agent, secret. agent, I think, or special agent, and double O agent. And completing those levels on double O agent at the time was fucking cool. And also the multiplayer is legendary, but playing it back, it was absolutely terrible. The guys who IO Interactive who make the Hitman games, they're making a James Bond
Starting point is 00:26:47 game, and apparently it's looking pretty good. I think it might also be down to the type of game as well, Pete, because I've played like Super Mario Kart recently and it's still really fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. The fact that it's a kind of racing game makes a big difference, right?
Starting point is 00:27:02 But if you're doing this multi-level, almost like 3D first-person shooter slash platform game, whatever you want to call it, it's the standards have changed a lot since then. Yeah, and you're fighting against the controls, I think, with Golden Iron, those kind of early, early, early shooters. Shall we do a quick email before we, yeah, let's do a quick email before my cat's go and menthol at the door, so we need to wrap up so I can get let him out. All right, Gavin has got in touch. Excuse me. Yes, former Shotking competition entrant Gavin here. I was visiting to your recent discussion about language and I thought I'd chipping with some fun stuff I've learned
Starting point is 00:27:35 I'm a proud Welsh from but I grew up in the South East where in most places English is the first language so I knew that the basics I knew the basics but I wasn't fluent until around four years ago where I decided I'd learnt to speak Welsh just to do my part in keeping our language alive for a bit longer that is Gavin incredibly honourable
Starting point is 00:27:52 of you. Adorable especially to a man who's half Welsh like you Peter well I just think it's I think to do that for no good reason you're not looking to have sex than anybody you're not looking to you're not looking well we don't know that maybe it might be a lovely Welsh speaking barmaid or barman
Starting point is 00:28:10 in the local pub that he's trying to impress but not exclusively well speaking you would imagine anyway here's a few words and phrases which amuse me hook gosgota is lady bird and literally translates his little red cow a common slang that is the Welsh
Starting point is 00:28:26 word for jellyfish is scott wibbly wobbly or wibbly wobbly fish. However, another term is, I'm not very good at doing any of these Welsh pronunciation. You've chosen to read this email out. I know.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Well, I saw the name. I thought Gavin, solid name. I'll read it out. I should have read ahead. Conti Moore, which is cunt of the sea. So in Welsh,
Starting point is 00:28:51 a jellyfish is called a cunt of the sea. Yeah, that's not bad, I think. That's not bad, is it? Conti more. Conti more. Conti more, that you will call me. Exactly. A common myth is that the Welsh word for Microwave is Popty Ping.
Starting point is 00:29:04 However, that is a slang term. The real world word is microdon, which sounds like a short king dinosaur. It does sound very much like a dinosaur, yeah. Exactly, yeah. Gavin, thank you for your message. I'm sorry for absolutely murdering those Welsh terms. The only Welsh stuff I know is Club Eiffo Bak, which is the one that's in Cardiff, that's a good indie club.
Starting point is 00:29:26 That's the only words I know. Do you know what? Speaking of that, the only time I've ever been to, club if or back, was I was tour managing the band. Yeah. And you won't know they are. They never did anything. And Paul Riley's band, now, you remember Paul Riley?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah, I wrote Bart Riley. Yeah. And the bass player at a time was a character. I won't know the details of why for illegal and probably ethical reasons. I didn't support his behaviour there and I don't support it now. He had a, basically had a seizure. Oh, wow. in the back of like a plumber's van that we were travelling there in because we had no money
Starting point is 00:30:03 because he had done loads of stupid stuff yes and um they were support and um we talked about good shoes before right yes i remember good shoes right and um who were very lovely and uh it almost got to the point where we had driven all the way to wales from london all of us in one van to play a support show where i think we're getting paid 150 quid in total for six of us and um we basically they basically almost had to I think from memory they had to play the show without the bass player because he was off his face
Starting point is 00:30:36 yeah I mean like having when you when you're having seizures because of too much fun let's say in his that's bad in it it's bad the most depressing part of the whole thing I mean he's fine by the way but the most the most depressing part about the whole thing was that we felt in like we had
Starting point is 00:30:53 to drink all the beers in this in the dressing room afterwards to make the most of it yeah yeah because because because that's the only thing we were getting out of it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're a tour manager,
Starting point is 00:31:03 you're a designated driver. In fact, actually, to be fair, I think the Qatar Tech drove back that night. Right. So I was able to have a beer. But at 2 in the morning when you're starting a journey
Starting point is 00:31:14 back from Wales. And you, and you criticise, you criticise the way I function. I'm just saying that, like, you've dealt with worse before. I was like 23 at the time. You've dealt with worse before.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I've never dealt with worse than you. I've never thought of people who just disappear like you do. Well, at least I'm coming back. I guess I'm coming back without seizures. I'll come back with a nice cabab or something. But you do come back, yeah. I'll just take a micro-doss. Before it was even fashionable.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Oh, dear. Right, let's get out of here. We'll be back for more. Looka-Bitcher fun on Thursday. If you've got anything to say for yourselves, be it about an air friar, be it about the Welsh language, or be it about batteries.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Hello, at Lukepeachshore.com is the way to get in touch. Just to put the cherry on top of the most 2000s story ever, that gig was also part of the Myspace Festival. Oh, was it part of the Sony Erickson Festival? They might have been involved, actually. They might have been a sponsor.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Sony Erickson was the most electro-clashy, indie dirt. I had several Sony-Erikson phones before the iPhone came along. They were great, Sony-Erickson phones. Very, very robust, I seem to recall. A lot of fun. I liked it. Great video capabilities. Great stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Anyway, yes, this show's been sponsored by Sony Erickson. We'll be back very soon for more of this muck. We'll see you later. See you later. Mood. The Luke and Pete Show is a stack production and part of the ACAST Creator Network.

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