The Luke and Pete Show - Fishmongers were better in the 90s

Episode Date: January 19, 2023

Do you remember when everyone knew each other’s blood type and bin men collected your rubbish every day? Life was better in the 90s!Elsewhere on today’s show, Pete takes a break from remembering the good old days to get erotic in the battery section and we discuss the “King of Billingsgate” aka Britain’s most famous fishmonger. But seriously, bin men used to cook you breakfast every single morning…What are you nostalgic about? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

it's the luke and pete shaw i'm pete donaldson hope you had a good week it is now thursday we're nearly ready for the weekend night into january luke moa are you ready for the weekend tomorrow and another day uh am i ready for it yeah i mean it's weird though isn't it because our working weeks are a bit different aren't they so I sometimes do get that Friday feeling I'm normally in the office

on a Friday and I will be in the office tomorrow so probably not quite there yet although I love my job I will I can certainly

kind of feel like the first tinglings of being ready for the weekend Pete you're not a weekend dude anyway you live your whole life like it's the weekend, baby.

I do, yeah. And I do get that kind of Friday feeling. I get the Friday feeling when something comes my way. I can't remember what I was advertising back in the day. But yeah, I get that Friday feeling, definitely. And you know what? I don't resent doing the odd bit of work over the weekend, you know? Because it feels quite optional,

even when it's very much not optional. Like, you just feel like, oh, well, you know, at least it's the weekend and no one's going to suddenly give me a bit more work because everyone's doing stuff. So I think the weekends might be the best time to do work. Well, that's a depressing way to start the show.

It is a depressing way to start the show. Don't do that. I feel like if I'm doing the ramble on a Monday, because obviously that's recorded depressing way to start the show it is a i feel like i feel like um if i'm doing the ramble on monday because obviously that's recorded and then put out straight away so we do that monday morning first thing um i do quite like the sexy feeling of being ahead of it by doing a bit of prep on the sunday night baby right okay that's what my what you need to do is move uh to the sea and then you've got almost two hour commute and you're like i'm sorted now i'm absolutely sorry i've got everything do it on the train yeah i mean i grew up near the sea didn't i so i i didn't do any commuting yeah and i actually

i was back there um sadly for a funeral service a couple of weeks a week or so ago and um i um i had for some one reason or another i was pottering around i was driving here there and everywhere doing some errands and i remember thinking to myself this is actually probably quite a nice place to grow up thinking about it obviously you only have your own experience you can't compare it to anywhere else but at the time obviously because it was a small town i was probably fairly desperate to get away and i haven't been i haven't lived there for 20 years or whatever, but longer than that even. But looking back on it,

growing up by the sea was actually pretty nice. We used to get on our bikes and ride down. It wasn't like the Bahamas or whatever, but it'd be nice to ride down on your bike down to the beach in the summer and have a good old time. I think I probably took that for granted at the time. Yeah, no, massively. But everything looks better when you look back,

I suppose, isn't it? Everything looks back and sort of says it's... You know what they say, Peter? Nostalgia is not what it used to be, massively. But everything looks better when you look back, I suppose, doesn't it? Everything looks back and sort of says it's... You know what they say, Peter? Nostalgia is not what it used to be, mate. There we go. Good stuff. Good joke, isn't it? But, you know, I do feel sorry for those kids with their mobile phones.

Oh, yeah. Do you remember when bin men were friendly? They'd come into your house, cook themselves some dinner, make themselves a cup of tea, sit on your sofa, watch your telly, tell you a joke. Yeah, you'd get up and they would have already made you a sausage sandwich. Yeah. It was amazing.

Do you remember when bin men would come every day and fold all your laundry? And the whole world was a big bin. Yeah. Just constant bin. And you would try and put your rubbish in the bin inside your house. And then a bin man would kick open the front door, grab that bit of rubbish and run out to the front. And you'd never see that rubbish again. It was so weird.

You'd accidentally knock a bit of rubbish, a bit of packaging off your kitchen counter. And before it hit the floor, a bin man was there. Bin was there. And he'd be doing like a kind of like last gasp, golden bank save for it not to bother your floor. Bin men everywhere. Just bin men coming out the walls. Do you know when you want to go to the shop and buy something and they would say, you can have it.

In fact, we'll pay you to have it. And everyone knew everyone. Do you know when like back in the day when everyone knew each other's blood type and could automatically sort out blood transfusions themselves and everyone's doors they weren't just made of paper

they were made of massive vacuums and it would suck people into your house and say be friendly that's how welcome it was be nice

and we'd all wear t-shirts saying be nice do you remember when everyone used to gather around the wireless and the radio

the wireless would play a different song at the same time which was everyone individually's favourite song I do remember all of that stuff yeah it's great wasn't it yeah like shit now the pastor's fan like shit now yeah where there's crap yeah we're all gonna die i'm fed up with these days i walk down my road everyone i see punches me in the face i'm fed up i mean that

i mean that is i mean that is that's another thing every step every step I take I solve my house people punching you in the noggin yeah it's just Jim and the Rose

weren't made of dog shit anyway Pete I went to the theatre last week oh hello yeah baby did you go with your local bin man

no theatres when I was a kid no made your own theatre Punch and Judy it was it was only just punching judy it was the oral history it's the oral folk history time wasn't it you'd sit down mama do macbeth dad a do i don't know making the tempest the other one the other one the other one that's what came out of um you know what i i will talk to you about the theater in a minute it was a

really interesting thing and hopefully the listeners will find it interesting. But before I do, all those revelations that came out about Prince Harry, and I'm not going to bore people with what I think about it because I don't think anyone gives a shit, but there is a really... I think it's brilliant. I think it sounds like an absolute fucking riot. I watched the ITV interview

and I'd just got back from the pub. I'd been in the pub on the Sunday with a couple of mates and I was sat there, absolutely gripped, thinking, I cannot believe he's saying this. I'd been in the pub on the Sunday with a couple of mates and I was sat there absolutely gripped thinking I cannot believe he's saying this I can't believe he's saying these things but anyway

the thing that really stuck in my mind was that I didn't know this and it's amazing to me because if you think of the scene you imagine him doing it

that King Charles is apparently obsessed with Shakespeare apparently he spends all his time in his spare time reading it, reciting it, cutting around. Like, in a massive palace. That is an amazing energy.

That's a great look. But is that not kind of what you want? Yeah, massively. I mean, that is proper monarch behaviour. Don't mind it. Imagine if it was 90 Day Fiancé. It would be the same. Yeah, exactly.

Imagine if it was like a reality TV show off of TLC. It would be the same. Yeah, exactly. It's like a reality TV show off of TLC. It would be the same. The fact that it's Shakespeare, it's great. It's great for the... That's a great line for the international audience. Because that's how Americans imagine the king anyway. Exactly, yeah. It was great stuff, I thought.

I thought it was really interesting. But anyway, speaking of that, I went to the theatre to watch a play called Best of Enemies. Have you heard of it? No. I'm going to give it a Google. Best of Enemies Theatre. It was brilliant.

You would absolutely love it, Peter. Right. And I'll tell you the plot. It's based on a true story anyway, so there's no kind of spoilers. Oh, it's got Zachary Quinto from Mad Men. Yeah, the guy who played Mr. Spock in Star Trek. Yeah, he wasn't in Mad Men I'm talking absolute shit there

you know it's so funny I said that to the wife I have access to I said oh he's the guy from Mad Men she's like no he isn't it's not it's not the gay man

who's in Mad Men it's not no I realise that I've actually seen Mad Men you've got an excuse it's got David Harewood in it as well from Homeland

so basically it's set in 1968, which is an amazingly volatile, febrile year in American politics, domestically and foreign, of course, for all the obvious reasons. But the detail is that that year was an election year and there was Republican primaries and Democratic primaries, as you guys would have all seen,

because everyone knows about american politics these days but um there's a there's a tv network called abc who were languishing in third way behind the two main networks which were um cbs and nbc and cbs have walter cronkite you know the greatest newsreader of all time, and NBC had their own stuff going on. But no one was really doing anything different. It was all newsreaders doing their thing. It was quite sober analysis and all the rest of it. And to try and get their ratings up, ABC introduced this idea, the first ever in American TV of a proper polemical one side and the other side

debate between two big characters the stuff you can't see the time and like question time here now and all the rest of it i mean it's distended into shit now but it used to be quite interesting right well the first one they did in america was this and it was on one side it was gore vidal who's this kind of very outwardly um homosexual kind of writer you know philosopher commentator interesting dude and the other side is very conservative or as in like a contemporary of enoch powell um right wing guy and editor of a magazine called the national review um called uh william buckley yeah and what they did is they set him up on um on the um on abc to commentate and provide discussion and analysis from each side of the aisle ahead on

every night of the Republican primary and the Democratic primary and it all kind of it's very interesting and the whole play is about how they set it up and how they do it and behind the scenes stuff which of course is fictionalized but the main debates are kind of they're all there to for everyone to see anyway the Republican one goes off and it's quite combative the Democrat Democratic National Convention which comes along afterwards is very very controversial because there is massive anti-Vietnam War protests

it was held in Chicago the Chicago Mayor himself who I think was Democrat turned the whole thing into like a police state to stop anyone invading the convention and it starts to get very tempestuous now I won't tell you what happens, but you can look it up.

If you're never going to go and see the play, you can look it up. It's on YouTube. The debates themselves are on YouTube, but it gets very, very problematic. And it was absolutely gripping. It was so well done. What they did on the stage,

they had the two guys doing the debate, acting, of course, then the three big old-fashioned oval-shaped TV screens and they would intersperse the actual what actually happened with the play

and a lot of stuff was narrated by a quite famous African-American intellectual James Baldwin who's very very contemporary of Kings

and all the rest of it and it's got people playing Aretha Franklin people playing Martin Luther King there's loads of stuff it's really really fucking good

and I would recommend it to anyone i was gripped the whole way through i'm a little bit i i that is giving me kind of hives about um cues oh man starting videos off they're so good i cannot believe how flawless because what i find amazing about theater is that and this is an obvious thing to say but i think it sometimes gets lost if you watch a big budget movie these days say you watch a marvel movie right the budgets are fucking gigantic they're doing in front of a green screen they have so many um chances so many takes all the rest of it there's the shooting schedules are really long like these guys are doing it live right in front of you, and they are perfect. I can honestly say the word I would use to describe that play, whether you like it or not, whether it's your kind of thing or not,

the way it was performed was perfect. There's nothing wrong with it. Nothing has gone wrong at any point. There's nothing wrong with it. It's amazing. It's amazing they can even learn that many lines. Oh, I like that side of things. Like my partner Sarahah she you know

she did the crucible one year and then she did um oh it's a bloody um thing tom cruise and jack nicholson oh a few good men so how did she find learn the lines then how did she find that part of it she just does it she just fucking does it's different absolutely different breed yeah but you think you can't do that you can do that i can I can't do that. I get too distracted. I can't learn more than two sentences. You could definitely learn lines. And Sarah's really good at learning lines. I just don't know. I just don't know how you guys do it.

Well, first of all, I haven't done it. So don't include me in that. Yeah, but you remember things. Like you remember phrases and key lines. Well, I've just remembered a whole lot of that play from a couple of weeks ago, haven't I? Exactly, yeah. It's like being there. Don't even go lines. I've just remembered a whole lot of that play from a couple of weeks ago, haven't I? Exactly, yeah. It's like being there. Don't need to go now.

I am very good. Speaking of that though, joking aside, did you see, there's a really good video that was shared on Twitter a number of weeks ago about, it's Robert Duvall,

the great actor, talking on a chat show from like the 70s or something about working with Marlon Brando and the Godfather. Okay, yeah. And he said that he was really excited to work with brando and you know the greatest actor of his generation and possibly of all time and he you know you want to make sure he was absolutely bang on for the scenes and all the rest of it anyway he said by that point in brando's career he hadn't bothered learning any lines right and what he was what they were doing was they were

setting up the they were dressing the set and putting everything ready for the scene and these these um set dresses were in massive font putting his lines up on the set off camera yeah and um brando at the time would come to to do his line he would just like look gaze over and over, and read it, and, and then what? Can you, I mean, can you, I mean,

presumably you can tell, by watching the, Well, watch it, because I don't, I don't think you can. Oh right, okay.

I think that's how good it is. Well I think that, you see that in like, Saturday Night Live, like, I don't know why, they don't do it digitally, but they'd still use big,

fucking massive cue cards, don't they? Like massive, massive cue cards, for the celebrity guests, who may not, you know, may not be across how you know what they're supposed to be doing at any one time uh that's all scripted like that and they do it with big big old uh big old cue cards but uh yeah i i i i'm fairly certain didn't he use an earpiece as well yeah so it was right at the very end of his career but i think that might have been to do with

ill health and stuff like that but he did right he checked out of um he checked out of trying for anything by that point but apparently one of the outdoor scenes in the godfather um his lines are up on a massive billboard like an actual billboard which is amazing to think of that's overhead you don't need really that's overhead you don't need brando just saying this is what i want and if you don't do it I won't be in the movie yeah and also but would you not kind of like do you have to would you not be I mean you can

let him do that but like does it not is he that much of the film like is there that much stuff that he needs to sort of think about

really because he's not looking down the camera lens he can't read an autocue so he can be looking off camera and I don't think he has that many

speaking bits in that film when he's on he's on well first of all that is a quite a controversial opinion on marlon brando's performance in the godfather which i think is widely considered to be pretty good and secondly i don't i think it would break the illusion somewhat if you saw a guy's eyes moving back and forth like he was reading so you must be good in some way i guess i guess it has to be i guess the lines have to be far, far away so you can't see them scanning them. Would people be surprised to know

that this show every time is completely scripted, do you think? Yeah, every um, every ah, every what's-a-thing-again, all of those ones, they're all scripted. It's like when people talk about someone playing the piano badly, well, you've got to be good at the piano to play the piano that badly. It's like this. You've got to be really good at this to sound this bad and that is part of it

by the way I think Johnny Depp was having an earpiece for all his Pirates of the Caribbean movies didn't he that was the yeah that was

that was the rumour see Jeff Beck died yeah touring with Depp not that long ago yeah he's what a legend I heard someone's

tribute to him the other day saying he could play the guitar like it was ringing a bell. Yeah. Which I think is a nice way of saying it. It's a shame.

Sad loss, but these people aren't going to live forever, Pete, unless they're Keith Richards, in which they very much are. But the thing is, he died in his boots on. A little bit like Tom Petty. Died within weeks of him doing a big old fucking tour. It's amazing, really. The best one was John Entwistle, wasn't it? That was the best way of dying

for someone of that nature. How did he go? I think he got found in a hotel room having had a heart attack surrounded by cocaine and quite a lot of prostitutes. Well, look, it's... Yeah, fair dues.

Fair dues. I just wanted to call them these day's sex workers, of course. I apologise for that. He was 57 years old. That's not actually even that old. No, yeah. You shouldn't be fucking around with cocaine post 40, I don't think.

I think that's a fool's errand, personally. Why are you looking at me? I'm not. Why have you sold all your furniture? Why is that room so empty? I just dropped five grand in cash. It was for paint. It was for paint.

It was for paint. He didn't want to pay the VAT. I haven't done that, by the way, for anyone listening. I've paid it all on the books, and it's not my responsibility for the workers to pay their tax. Anyway, it's for them to pay. Yeah, that's not your responsibility. Exactly. You can do what you want.

By the way, I keep getting Christmas cards. I got a Christmas card this morning. Where's that come from? Is that the state of play in your part of London? You mentioned me sorting my house out, which I am doing at the moment. And honestly, things turn up and I'm expecting them to be things for the house.

And I got a Christmas card again this morning. It was sent on the 12th of December from Maidstone. And all of your furniture, the place where you'd usually display some of your cards, is under sheets in the middle of the room. There's no point sending me Christmas cards. There's nowhere to put them. I might send you one for 2024.

No, 2023. You've never sent me a Christmas card. I'm just bad at it, Luke. You've never sent me any kind of card. I'm bad at all of that. You've never sent me any kind of card. You'm bad at all of that. I don't think you've ever sent me any kind of card. You sent me like gifts. So last Christmas you sent me

Wagyu beef for Christmas and I sent you a massive slab of Tisky. Beefy boys. And this year we didn't do anything, did we? I don't know why. No. Well, I'm glad nobody else reciprocated because I was like, I had it in my head. I was like, someone's going to send me a fucking present. I'm going to be annoyed and upset that I've not reciprocated because I've just been fucking world cup fucked everything up i think it did

and i think a tip i would dish out there to anyone who becomes friends with you always send pete a present because he he's so generous he sends like four times better back and i said yeah but but accompanied with that i just my anxiety just goes fucking yeah i've got more stuff to do now yeah it's hard life, isn't it? It's tough. It is tough. Shall we take a short break and then come back

with some fucking battery brands? Let's do it. Fucking battery brands. Oh. Did you hear about the Bristol Cemetery that's flooded and people keep slipping

and the bodies keep falling out of coffins? Oh my God. It's happened twice now. Disgusting. Anyway, battery brands. It's a Thursday.. Disgusting. Anyway, battery brands. It's a Thursday. If you found a battery in a bit of consumer electronic car, we want to hear from you.

Tucker has got in touch. Hello, my name is Tuckle. No, not Tuckle. Tuckle. And we've called him Tuckle. He's from Myrtle Beach, and I got confused. I said Tuckle from Tuckle Beach. My name is Tucker, and I'm from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina in the US.

I work at a guitar centre. And while changing the battery in a bass guitar earlier this week, I came across an interesting battery that I've never seen before. Maybe this is a new player. Actually, I think electro-acoustic guitars, guitar tuners, guitar pedals to a certain extent, I think this is a real untapped bit of battery real estate. Can I please just take a moment to enjoy a man called Tucker

in a music shop in Myrtle Beach changing a bass guitar string? That is an amazing image. Oh, it really is, massively. Oh, so changing the battery in a bass guitar. I don't know what there would be a battery in a bass guitar. You say it's a semi-acoustic is that what you're saying it's got to be acoustic or semi-acoustic surely for the microphone maybe i don't know either way uh i've only seen the show for a couple of months good on you tucker and i love the battery

submissions there's been enough of them uh so i thought this was the perfect opportunity to send one in thanks for making the show i'm a big fan. Good man, Tucker. Super heavy duty, fair man. Mercury and cadmium free. It's a nice look. I thought it was going to be a new player. It's a really, really good battery to see. But our friend Andy sent those in on August the 8th of last year. So you're not that far behind the curve,

but unfortunately it's not a new player on this occasion. Unlucky, Tucker. Better luck next time. This is an interesting one. Tom has got in touch. the curve but unfortunately it's not a new player on this occasion unlucky tucker uh better look next time uh this is an interesting one tom has got in touch uh hey look pete i've been renovating a very old building in bristol and found all kinds of ancient stuff beneath the floorboards including this flying bomb d cell battery i feel like i'm in a pretty good position here but with your army of battery hunters who knows i hope it might be a new player but I also appreciate the fellow

hunters, yes, lots of love Tom the flying bomb superpower, I mean it looks like it's easily 1940s and 50s that looks like an old motherfucking battery, I think that's the best battery I've ever had seen chucked in there yeah, it's a beautiful bit of work

look at the artwork on it, Pete. Yeah, I mean, do you really want to be reminded of the world's shame? The Second World War? Yeah, but do you remember the bin men in the Second World War? Do you remember the bin men? Exactly, they did.

That's how we won the war, the bin men. You see that story about a guy in the Ukrainian conflict, the illegal Russian invasion Oh, speaking of which, did you see that story about a guy in the Ukrainian conflict and the illegal Russian invasion of Ukraine, as I should say, a Ukrainian soldier who had a unexploded grenade successfully removed from his chest.

How fast? What? Get him and the cricket team? How did this happen? What do you mean? I think someone fired a grenade from a grenade launcher. It hit him in the chest and didn't explode. What? The whole thing just lodged in his chest?

Yeah. It's not massive. A grenade? Yeah. How did it lodge in his chest? Right, I'll dig up the story. For fuck's sake. Did it partially explode and land in his chest? No. Because'll dig up the story. How fast would it... For fuck's sake. Did it partially explode and land in his chest?

No. Because I don't know how someone would stuck... How could a ball, basically, just stick in your chest? Unless you had absolute massive weapons. No, because it's from a launcher

so it's slightly... Oh, right. It was from a launcher. Thank you. Sorry. I said that. I fucking said that. Did you say launcher?

Yes. I thought somebody threw it. I thought, wow. No. What a powerful throw. Yeah, in a way, I'd rather it didn't explode. If you're going to throw it that hard. But anyway.

What a risk. Imagine how difficult that was to remove. Yeah, they had to have two bomb technicians, they had to have a surgeon. It's a big operation, obviously. Yeah. I would say that's a reasonably pressured day at the office. Yeah, just a bit.

It's like fucking Jack Bauer or something. Anyway, Flying Bomb, speaking of which, Tom, as I'm sure this is going to be a surprise to no one, that is absolutely a new player. I didn't even know. I don't know if there is another one of those Flying Bomb batteries existing anywhere else in the world. So needless to say, it is a new player.

So congratulations to you. We should share that photo on the socials because that is a great battery to look at as well. Yeah, nice. I'm a big fan of that. Thank you very much, Craig. And thank you for letting us

think about that man with a grenade in his chest. Hello, gents. Hoping I have a new player. This is Craig from Portland, Oregon. Before Christmas, a lovely girl I began seeing. Felt sorry for me

because I didn't have a Christmas tree in my home. The ex-Lawrence. When she came around the next time, she brought with her a lovely little light of Christmas tree. Do the whole email in that voice. Rather than thanking her for her kind gift, I immediately went for the battery hole, man. So rigorously that I actually snapped the plastic just to see if there was a potential new player awaiting me. Craig, Craig, Craig.

Bit of foreplay. I'm fully wrecked here. Don't just grab at the fucking battery holder pulling it open like that. Lordy. There's no romance. Cue curious and confused

looks from the said girl and me having to explain the nonsense that is the Luke and Pete show. Don't do the voice for fuck's sake. Cue curious and confused looks from the said girl and me having to explain

the nonsense that is the Luke and and me having to explain the nonsense that is the Luke and Pete show and in particular the whole new battery player chronicles safe to say I did little to ease our confusion and I'm wondering if you were dating a madman anyway the hopeful new play is Intenso

and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will be third time lucky all the best and keep up the good work Craig from Portland Oregon and I'm really sorry to hear about you breaking up with your missus that this will be third time lucky. All the best and keep up the good work. Craig from Portland, Oregon. And I'm really sorry to hear about you breaking up with your missus. Intenso. So look, if you have broken up with your missus, Craig, sad, but there are plenty more fish in the sea and all that.

I hope this is salve to your wound. The softening of the blow will be that Intenso is a new player as well. So congratulations to you. Nice. Two out of three, baby. Big fan of that. Not bad, is it? Not bad. Yeah, I think that's a good week.

And are we seeing our goals getting easier to score? Are we seeing more kind of twos and threes every week? It feels like we are. I don't really know. I always feel like it ebbs and flows yeah um are you still thinking about that grenade in that man's chest i am a little bit yeah yeah i thought so um i'll just tell you um i'll just give you a bit of detail because you know this is this is a great sequel to the man who had a world war one bomb up his bum yeah but he was very much he had his own agency he was very much involved

in that. He launched that himself so to speak. Russian junior sergeant Nikolai Pesenko 41 was hit while

fighting in Ukraine. The grenade smashed through his ribs damaged the lung and lodged near

his spine between the aorta and the inferior vena cava the largest vein in the body.

Despite the high risk of explosion surgeons successfully removed the device and the medical operations reported by Russia's defence ministry largest vein in the body. Despite the high risk of explosion, surgeons successfully removed the device and the medical operations reported

by Russia's defense ministry. Yeah, it's actually a Russian soldier, not a Ukrainian soldier, so I should apologize for that. But there's some great pictures of it. It was fired from an automatic mounted grenade launcher called the AGS-17, if that's of interest. Lovely, okay.

So it's all your grenades. Oh, there's like a little x-ray of it. It's called the AGS-17, if that's of interest. Lovely. Okay. So, let's see. Soldier Grenade. Oh, there's like a little X-ray of it. Wow. What I didn't like about the coverage of it is it like there was a couple of photographs from inside the operating theatre while they were doing it. Get out. Clear the room. Well, one of them's like the military doctor's just kind of got the grenade in his hand and

he's sort of looking at it with blood all over his hands. I mean, it's just got... Right, you can come in, take a photo, but you better not drop the lens cap. Just throwing it. That's incredible. What a performance. So it's an interesting story of what is quite a

horrific situation, of course, to say the least. Before we go, I just wanted to pivot again slightly and say to you that I found out the other day that um a couple of things about about old london which will be interesting to our international listeners there's two facts that i read uh in the last week from the excellent mark morris which is mark with a c he's a brilliant um english-based historian specializes in the anglo-saxon era but or the Dark Ages or something like that, I can't remember, but he's very good on Twitter.

And his claim to fame is that Scarlett Johansson once kind of interacted with him on Twitter about some historical weird thing, and he's always talking about it. It's quite funny, quite random. Anyway, he said that, according to a lot of sources that he's read way back in the day, I think 12th, 13th century, that a lot of renters in England read way back in the day i think 12 13th century um that a lot of renters in england paid their rent in eels so eels were apparently such like such great currency back then

people loved them they ate them all the time they were abundant in all the rivers people would pay their rent to their landlord directly in eels which is like it sounds like so much would make up yeah how many eels could could one realistically need i suppose yeah and the second one is that you know billingsgate fish market yes so that pays a rent to the city of london uh yeah okay and it has done since its launch in 1699 uh on its dockland site the rent is to this day and has always been since 1699 the rent is to this day and has always been since 1699 payable to the city of london one fish per year nice someone has to go there and give them a fish every year for the rent on that um on that site just i mean just can you post it to them i mean that seems quite what fish do they want

exactly yeah which uh we used to do a feature um on on the breakfast show on xfm um uh with a with a with a fisherman with a fishmonger at um at the uh oh not that mad guy with the mustache yes he's amazing he is a very problematic though he would constantly um sell expired uh fish he's uh i believe he's now a turf accountant, I think, somewhere. But he's very much a guy who would come on. I remember ringing up and sort of going, look, we want to talk to a fisherman every week. Sorry, a fishmonger every week.

Have you got anyone? And the woman just went, you want to talk to Roger? And to be fair, we did want to talk to Roger because he was an incredible... He's still with us. He's an incredible... you know, new character. and Spitalfield and Billingsgate. And the episode they did on Billingsgate was with that guy following him around. And I know nothing about him. I mean, you could be,

I'd have no idea what his story is. But that documentary episode, I remember thinking to myself, my God, he has got more charisma than most people on TV. Like he should be on TV. He's an incredible character. I've got, there's a woman who is in, there's a TV show

about adopting dogs it's called The Dog House or something on Channel 4 and they basically go to a place called Wood Green

there's not the Wood Green in London somewhere in the middle of nowhere and it's got this massive like kind of it's basically

where adopted dogs go to foster dogs go to and there's one of the sort of people who look after the dogs who's always on the telly on this show and she's like quite skinny uh relatively good looking um got good teeth and

she's got like a very kind of like um television way about her and i'm predicting that she's going to be doing all kinds of jobs all over the place if she's not on fucking screen tests for for the one show uh at this point i don't know what the i don't know what my idea of what the television great talent spotting by you that pete but it's just no it's not great talent so it's depressing because i don't i find it i find it quite dull but she just looks the part she sounds the part she's very friendly people will know who she is and she will no doubt have a couple of country-file style shows before the end of the year. Before the end of next year.

And you'll be presenting with her like a new Jermaine Genis. He's done well. Jermaine Genis has done well for himself. My brain kind of accepts him as a presenter now. There was a lovely, somebody sent us a clip of a clip of Jermaine Jenis talking to

Gordon Ramsay was on the show he was I saw that when I was in the gym the other day was that the one where somebody

sent in a for Christmas instead of a chocolate fountain they made a gravy fountain so this is interesting because you heard it without sound yeah because I was

listening to something on my headphones I could only see the subtitles it was very confusing but I saw the exact scene on the TV I don't know what happened out of only see the subtitles, and it was very confusing. But I saw the exact scene on the TV. I don't know what happened out of it, because the subtitles were too slow. Exactly.

So this guy had sent a picture and gone, Oh, yeah, over Christmas I made a lovely gravy fountain for the roast dinner. And Jermaine Jennings was like, That's brilliant. That looks great. And Gordon Ramsay gave it the shortest of shrifts. Yeah, I bet he did. Bisto said, That's disgusting. I bet that's Bisto as well. Disgusting. Gordon Ramsay gave it the shortest of shrifts yeah I bet he did that's disgusting I bet that's Bisto

as well disgusting Gordon Ramsay is amazing on social media where he does a series of it so often

I think it's on TikTok where people send their food in and their recipes and he does a voiceover on it

and he does an amazing line in getting properly angry his insults are so good I honestly think it's funny isn't it this is all the same thread we're talking about here like some people are just brilliant

like charismatically magnetic on on on the screen like i remember i remember i did a i did a um elected um photography module when i went to uni the first time um with a guy and he came in from outside he was like a visiting lecturer and he photographed um he did photography for a month for a term for us right he was brilliant he was like he didn't give a shit he was like proper been around the houses been around the world quite an old guy looked like an old mod kind of thing and but he was really good and he was telling story he used to go to the bar after the lectures every week and we'd go and he'd tell stories and stuff and um he said to me once that um he photographed robert de niro i might have told you this story before and he said that robert de niro walks in the room and no one really noticed he was like the most meek mild quiet guy and yeah when he put but when

they put the camera on him it was like fucking hell he exploded through the lens he's like people like he's like looking at a completely different person and i also i often think about that when i see someone like ramsey who is essentially i listen i know i'm over the top about ramsey i think he's amazing i think he is the most natural person on tv the tv shows he makes are so fucking good it's unbelievable yes well yeah he just he's uh i think he picks his projects well and he just you just know what you're gonna get from him and that's satisfying he's like the think he picks his projects well. And he just, you just know what you're going to get from him. And that's satisfying. He's like the Daniel Day-Lewis of like, of factual telling. But honestly, I watch Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares like all the time.

Anyway, let's get out of here, Peter. I think we're over time. And I think you've got to go, baby. You're 10 minutes late for the next thing you're doing. No, got to go. Got to go. All right, guys. Have a lovely weekend.

We'll be back on Monday. Do nothing. Thanks a lot. Take it easy. Bye. Love you. Bye-bye. guys have a lovely weekend we'll be back on Monday do nothing thanks a lot take it easy love you bye bye The Luke and Pete Show is a Stack production and part of the Acast Creator Network.